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Date: 20 Feb 2009 16:41:12
From: bob_a_booie
Subject: Was it acceptable poker ettiquete for him to lie that he will show
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Scenario: 2-5 NL Holdem cash game in b&m casino in AC 5 players limp in and I flop top pair on a flop of baby cards and bet out $25 1 caller ace on the turn we both check I check river and villain bets $100 I assume It is 50% he is bluffing based on his agressive play He likes to go over the top post flop with big bets I ask him "will you show me if I fold ?" and he said yes I fold he mucks tehn laughs and says I lied... I called him low class and later a liar and he called me the MF word He then made all kind of threats and kept using bad language wich I returned in kind leading to both being ejected from casino. In retrospect I should have walked away from the table instead. I would never berate a player over bad beats and loose calls but I really do not like dealing with bad manners and rude people. Was it acceptable poker ettiquete for him to lie that he will show his hand? I know it is not enforcable by the floor but I do not like a stranger thinking he can disrepect fellow players and I probably would have called him a liar if he did it to another Poker player as well. I will definately try to avoid such confrontations in the future unless it involves the fore mentioned villian. TIA Bob_a_booie
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Date: 21 Feb 2009 09:28:52
From: eldo77
Subject: Re: Was it acceptable poker ettiquete for him to lie that he will show his hand?
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On Feb 20 2009 7:41 PM, bob_a_booie wrote: > Scenario: > 2-5 NL Holdem cash game in b&m casino in AC > 5 players limp in and I flop top pair on a flop of baby cards and bet > out $25 > 1 caller > ace on the turn we both check > I check river and villain bets $100 > I assume It is 50% he is bluffing based on his agressive play > He likes to go over the top post flop with big bets > > I ask him "will you show me if I fold ?" and he said yes > I fold he mucks tehn laughs and says I lied... > > I called him low class and later a liar and he called me the MF word > He then made all kind of threats and kept using bad language wich I > returned in kind > leading to both being ejected from casino. > > In retrospect I should have walked away from the table instead. > I would never berate a player over bad beats and loose calls > but I really do not like dealing with bad manners and rude people. > > Was it acceptable poker ettiquete for him to lie that he will show > his hand? > I know it is not enforcable by the floor but I do not like a stranger > thinking he can disrepect > fellow players and I probably would have called him a liar if he did > it to another Poker player as well. > > I will definately try to avoid such confrontations in the future > unless it involves the fore mentioned villian. YOU are the villan here. Any cocksucker asking stupid questions like this in a poker game deserves being lied to. eldo77 ------- * kill-files, watch-lists, favorites, and more.. www.recgroups.com
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Date: 21 Feb 2009 16:11:30
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: Was it acceptable poker ettiquete for him to lie that he will show his hand?
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"eldo77" <[email protected] > wrote in message news:[email protected] > On Feb 20 2009 7:41 PM, bob_a_booie wrote: > >> Scenario: >> 2-5 NL Holdem cash game in b&m casino in AC >> 5 players limp in and I flop top pair on a flop of baby cards and bet >> out $25 >> 1 caller >> ace on the turn we both check >> I check river and villain bets $100 >> I assume It is 50% he is bluffing based on his agressive play >> He likes to go over the top post flop with big bets >> >> I ask him "will you show me if I fold ?" and he said yes >> I fold he mucks tehn laughs and says I lied... >> >> I called him low class and later a liar and he called me the MF word >> He then made all kind of threats and kept using bad language wich I >> returned in kind >> leading to both being ejected from casino. >> >> In retrospect I should have walked away from the table instead. >> I would never berate a player over bad beats and loose calls >> but I really do not like dealing with bad manners and rude people. >> >> Was it acceptable poker ettiquete for him to lie that he will show >> his hand? >> I know it is not enforcable by the floor but I do not like a stranger >> thinking he can disrepect >> fellow players and I probably would have called him a liar if he did >> it to another Poker player as well. >> >> I will definately try to avoid such confrontations in the future >> unless it involves the fore mentioned villian. > > YOU are the villan here. Any cocksucker asking stupid questions like this > in a poker game deserves being lied to. > > eldo77 > Sorry bucko, have to agree with eldo77 on this one - minus the "cocksucker" comment. Irish Mike
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Date: 21 Feb 2009 06:54:14
From: FangBanger
Subject: Re: Was it acceptable poker ettiquete for him to lie that he will show his hand?
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On Feb 20 2009 6:41 PM, bob_a_booie wrote: > Scenario: > 2-5 NL Holdem cash game in b&m casino in AC > 5 players limp in and I flop top pair on a flop of baby cards and bet > out $25 > 1 caller > ace on the turn we both check > I check river and villain bets $100 > I assume It is 50% he is bluffing based on his agressive play > He likes to go over the top post flop with big bets > > I ask him "will you show me if I fold ?" and he said yes > I fold he mucks tehn laughs and says I lied... > > I called him low class and later a liar and he called me the MF word > He then made all kind of threats and kept using bad language wich I > returned in kind > leading to both being ejected from casino. > > In retrospect I should have walked away from the table instead. > I would never berate a player over bad beats and loose calls > but I really do not like dealing with bad manners and rude people. > > Was it acceptable poker ettiquete for him to lie that he will show > his hand? > I know it is not enforcable by the floor but I do not like a stranger > thinking he can disrepect > fellow players and I probably would have called him a liar if he did > it to another Poker player as well. > > I will definately try to avoid such confrontations in the future > unless it involves the fore mentioned villian. If you want a good way to get in to a fight , yet gain the support of those around you .. get face to face with the guy and have your arms folded. After a few words , jerk your head back , and scream at the guy not to spit at you , combine this with unfolding your arms and acting like you are wiping something off your face. The next word he utters .. CLOCK HIM , and then make sure your face appears to be wet with some substance. If anyone mentions the police , just tell them that he was spitting in to your face .. someone around you will back you up !! NEVER FAILS !! > > > TIA > Bob_a_booie Jason,you, sir, are much, much stupider than FangBanger. ________________________________________________________________________ * kill-files, watch-lists, favorites, and more.. www.recgroups.com
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Date: 20 Feb 2009 20:00:12
From: Mark B (Diputsur)
Subject: Re: Was it acceptable poker ettiquete for him to lie that he will
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On Feb 20, 10:53=A0pm, bob_a_booie <[email protected] > wrote: > D'oh! > I guess it is unanimous that villian did not violate poker ettiqute > I was definately wrong to keep bitching about it > I was being egged on by another player who was ROTFLHAO and I am not > proud of my actions > I have been going to casinos on and off for 2 years and never ran into > this scenario > > If I get into a fight on the casino floor what is the policy in AC > about notifying the Police? IIRC they call the ambulance first. You might be interested in the following link: http://www.google.com/search?hl=3Den&en-US&q=3Dtaj+mahal+stabbed+to+death+p= oker&btnG=3DSearch > If there is a fight should I stay in the Casino until I am told to > leave or head out and hide . Whatever you do, DON'T GO OUTSIDE WITHOUT SECURITY!!! > I am definately going to try to control my actions in the future > but I may still need to get my hands dirty if this villian acts up on > me GL
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Date: 20 Feb 2009 19:53:13
From: bob_a_booie
Subject: Re: Was it acceptable poker ettiquete for him to lie that he will
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D'oh! I guess it is unanimous that villian did not violate poker ettiqute I was definately wrong to keep bitching about it I was being egged on by another player who was ROTFLHAO and I am not proud of my actions I have been going to casinos on and off for 2 years and never ran into this scenario If I get into a fight on the casino floor what is the policy in AC about notifying the Police? If there is a fight should I stay in the Casino until I am told to leave or head out and hide . I am definately going to try to control my actions in the future but I may still need to get my hands dirty if this villian acts up on me On Feb 20, 7:41=A0pm, bob_a_booie <[email protected] > wrote: > Scenario: > 2-5 NL Holdem cash game in b&m casino in AC > 5 players limp in and I flop top pair on =A0a flop of baby cards and bet > out $25 > 1 caller > ace on the turn we both check > I check river and villain bets $100 > I assume It is 50% he is bluffing based on his agressive play > He likes to go over the top post flop with big bets > > I ask him "will you show me if I fold ?" and he said yes > I fold he mucks =A0tehn laughs and says I lied... > > I called him low class and later a liar and he called me =A0the MF word > He then made all kind of threats and kept using bad language wich I > returned in kind > leading to both being ejected from casino. > > In retrospect I should have walked away from the table instead. > I would never berate a player over bad beats and loose calls > but I really do not like dealing with bad manners and rude people. > > Was it acceptable =A0poker ettiquete for him to lie that he will show > his hand? > I know it is not enforcable by the floor but I do not like a stranger > thinking he can disrepect > fellow players and I probably would have called him a liar if he did > it to another Poker player as well. > > I will definately try to avoid such confrontations in the future > unless it involves the fore mentioned villian. > > TIA > Bob_a_booie
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Date: 21 Feb 2009 05:09:23
From: Ian Stuart
Subject: Re: Was it acceptable poker ettiquete for him to lie that he will show his hand?
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On Feb 21 2009 4:53 AM, bob_a_booie wrote: > > If I get into a fight on the casino floor what is the policy in AC > about notifying the Police? > If there is a fight should I stay in the Casino until I am told to > leave or head out and hide . > > I am definately going to try to control my actions in the future > but I may still need to get my hands dirty if this villian acts up on > me > Ask your parents to go with you and you should be fine. ------ * kill-files, watch-lists, favorites, and more.. www.recgroups.com
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Date: 20 Feb 2009 19:13:04
From: Will in New Haven
Subject: Re: Was it acceptable poker ettiquete for him to lie that he will
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On Feb 20, 7:41=A0pm, bob_a_booie <[email protected] > wrote: > Scenario: > 2-5 NL Holdem cash game in b&m casino in AC > 5 players limp in and I flop top pair on =A0a flop of baby cards and bet > out $25 > 1 caller > ace on the turn we both check > I check river and villain bets $100 > I assume It is 50% he is bluffing based on his agressive play > He likes to go over the top post flop with big bets > > I ask him "will you show me if I fold ?" and he said yes > I fold he mucks =A0tehn laughs and says I lied... > > I called him low class and later a liar and he called me =A0the MF word > He then made all kind of threats and kept using bad language wich I > returned in kind > leading to both being ejected from casino. > > In retrospect I should have walked away from the table instead. > I would never berate a player over bad beats and loose calls > but I really do not like dealing with bad manners and rude people. > > Was it acceptable =A0poker ettiquete for him to lie that he will show > his hand? > I know it is not enforcable by the floor but I do not like a stranger > thinking he can disrepect > fellow players and I probably would have called him a liar if he did > it to another Poker player as well. > > I will definately try to avoid such confrontations in the future > unless it involves the fore mentioned villian. > > TIA > Bob_a_booie 1: Lying about a poker hand is a sacrament. 2: Asking "will you show" is stupid. -- Will in New Haven
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Date: 20 Feb 2009 19:08:16
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: Was it acceptable poker ettiquete for him to lie that he will show his hand?
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On Feb 20 2009 6:41 PM, bob_a_booie wrote: > Scenario: > 2-5 NL Holdem cash game in b&m casino in AC > 5 players limp in and I flop top pair on a flop of baby cards and bet > out $25 > 1 caller > ace on the turn we both check > I check river and villain bets $100 > I assume It is 50% he is bluffing based on his agressive play > He likes to go over the top post flop with big bets > > I ask him "will you show me if I fold ?" and he said yes > I fold he mucks tehn laughs and says I lied... > > I called him low class and later a liar and he called me the MF word > He then made all kind of threats and kept using bad language wich I > returned in kind > leading to both being ejected from casino. > > In retrospect I should have walked away from the table instead. > I would never berate a player over bad beats and loose calls > but I really do not like dealing with bad manners and rude people. > > Was it acceptable poker ettiquete for him to lie that he will show > his hand? > I know it is not enforcable by the floor but I do not like a stranger > thinking he can disrepect > fellow players and I probably would have called him a liar if he did > it to another Poker player as well. > > I will definately try to avoid such confrontations in the future > unless it involves the fore mentioned villian. Next time you go there ask if they can seat you at the women's table. --- Morphy [email protected] http://www.donkeymanifesto.com "I think they are mad that i am borderline psycho" --igotskillz "It's unfortunate that there are loons on both sides completely obfuscating what's going on." --Official RGP Mantra ---- * kill-files, watch-lists, favorites, and more.. www.recgroups.com
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Date: 21 Feb 2009 12:40:26
From: Beldin the Sorcerer
Subject: Re: Was it acceptable poker ettiquete for him to lie that he will show his hand?
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"XaQ Morphy" <[email protected] > wrote in message news:[email protected] > On Feb 20 2009 6:41 PM, bob_a_booie wrote: > >> Scenario: >> 2-5 NL Holdem cash game in b&m casino in AC >> 5 players limp in and I flop top pair on a flop of baby cards and bet >> out $25 >> 1 caller >> ace on the turn we both check >> I check river and villain bets $100 >> I assume It is 50% he is bluffing based on his agressive play >> He likes to go over the top post flop with big bets >> >> I ask him "will you show me if I fold ?" and he said yes >> I fold he mucks tehn laughs and says I lied... >> >> I called him low class and later a liar and he called me the MF word >> He then made all kind of threats and kept using bad language wich I >> returned in kind >> leading to both being ejected from casino. >> >> In retrospect I should have walked away from the table instead. >> I would never berate a player over bad beats and loose calls >> but I really do not like dealing with bad manners and rude people. >> >> Was it acceptable poker ettiquete for him to lie that he will show >> his hand? >> I know it is not enforcable by the floor but I do not like a stranger >> thinking he can disrepect >> fellow players and I probably would have called him a liar if he did >> it to another Poker player as well. >> >> I will definately try to avoid such confrontations in the future >> unless it involves the fore mentioned villian. > > Next time you go there ask if they can seat you at the women's table. > Morphy, that's a really sexist comment > --- > Morphy > [email protected] > http://www.donkeymanifesto.com > > "I think they are mad that i am borderline psycho" --igotskillz > > "It's unfortunate that there are loons on both sides completely > obfuscating what's going on." --Official RGP Mantra > > ---- > * kill-files, watch-lists, favorites, and more.. www.recgroups.com >
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Date: 20 Feb 2009 18:07:51
From: Jason Pawloski
Subject: Re: Was it acceptable poker ettiquete for him to lie that he will show his hand?
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On Feb 20 2009 5:41 PM, bob_a_booie wrote: > Scenario: > 2-5 NL Holdem cash game in b&m casino in AC > 5 players limp in and I flop top pair on a flop of baby cards and bet > out $25 > 1 caller > ace on the turn we both check > I check river and villain bets $100 > I assume It is 50% he is bluffing based on his agressive play > He likes to go over the top post flop with big bets > > I ask him "will you show me if I fold ?" and he said yes > I fold he mucks tehn laughs and says I lied... > > I called him low class and later a liar and he called me the MF word > He then made all kind of threats and kept using bad language wich I > returned in kind > leading to both being ejected from casino. > > In retrospect I should have walked away from the table instead. > I would never berate a player over bad beats and loose calls > but I really do not like dealing with bad manners and rude people. > > Was it acceptable poker ettiquete for him to lie that he will show > his hand? > I know it is not enforcable by the floor but I do not like a stranger > thinking he can disrepect > fellow players and I probably would have called him a liar if he did > it to another Poker player as well. > > I will definately try to avoid such confrontations in the future > unless it involves the fore mentioned villian. > > > TIA > Bob_a_booie Assuming you can "beat a bluff" by how you define a bluff, if you thought he was 50% bluffing than you were getting the pot odds to call anyway. You should have seen his cards legit. -- "Actually, I will read Jason's posts too. He's smart also." - Paul Popinjay, 10/21/2007 (http://tinyurl.com/4bggyp) ______________________________________________________________________ : the next generation of web-newsreaders : http://www.recgroups.com
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Date: 20 Feb 2009 18:47:29
From: FangBanger
Subject: Re: Was it acceptable poker ettiquete for him to lie that he will show his hand?
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On Feb 20 2009 8:07 PM, Jason Pawloski wrote: > On Feb 20 2009 5:41 PM, bob_a_booie wrote: > > > Scenario: > > 2-5 NL Holdem cash game in b&m casino in AC > > 5 players limp in and I flop top pair on a flop of baby cards and bet > > out $25 > > 1 caller > > ace on the turn we both check > > I check river and villain bets $100 > > I assume It is 50% he is bluffing based on his agressive play > > He likes to go over the top post flop with big bets > > > > I ask him "will you show me if I fold ?" and he said yes > > I fold he mucks tehn laughs and says I lied... > > > > I called him low class and later a liar and he called me the MF word > > He then made all kind of threats and kept using bad language wich I > > returned in kind > > leading to both being ejected from casino. > > > > In retrospect I should have walked away from the table instead. > > I would never berate a player over bad beats and loose calls > > but I really do not like dealing with bad manners and rude people. > > > > Was it acceptable poker ettiquete for him to lie that he will show > > his hand? > > I know it is not enforcable by the floor but I do not like a stranger > > thinking he can disrepect > > fellow players and I probably would have called him a liar if he did > > it to another Poker player as well. > > > > I will definately try to avoid such confrontations in the future > > unless it involves the fore mentioned villian. > > > > > > TIA > > Bob_a_booie > > Assuming you can "beat a bluff" by how you define a bluff, if you thought > he was 50% bluffing than you were getting the pot odds to call anyway. You > should have seen his cards legit. YOU REALLY SHOULD JUST STOP ANSWERING ANY POST THAT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH POKER . Just stay in the kiddie pool and no one gets hurt !! > > -- > "Actually, I will read Jason's posts too. He's smart also." - Paul > Popinjay, 10/21/2007 (http://tinyurl.com/4bggyp) Jason,you, sir, are much, much stupider than FangBanger. ------- * kill-files, watch-lists, favorites, and more.. www.recgroups.com
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Date: 20 Feb 2009 18:57:09
From: Jason Pawloski
Subject: Re: Was it acceptable poker ettiquete for him to lie that he will show his hand?
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On Feb 20 2009 7:47 PM, FangBanger wrote: > On Feb 20 2009 8:07 PM, Jason Pawloski wrote: > > > On Feb 20 2009 5:41 PM, bob_a_booie wrote: > > > > > Scenario: > > > 2-5 NL Holdem cash game in b&m casino in AC > > > 5 players limp in and I flop top pair on a flop of baby cards and bet > > > out $25 > > > 1 caller > > > ace on the turn we both check > > > I check river and villain bets $100 > > > I assume It is 50% he is bluffing based on his agressive play > > > He likes to go over the top post flop with big bets > > > > > > I ask him "will you show me if I fold ?" and he said yes > > > I fold he mucks tehn laughs and says I lied... > > > > > > I called him low class and later a liar and he called me the MF word > > > He then made all kind of threats and kept using bad language wich I > > > returned in kind > > > leading to both being ejected from casino. > > > > > > In retrospect I should have walked away from the table instead. > > > I would never berate a player over bad beats and loose calls > > > but I really do not like dealing with bad manners and rude people. > > > > > > Was it acceptable poker ettiquete for him to lie that he will show > > > his hand? > > > I know it is not enforcable by the floor but I do not like a stranger > > > thinking he can disrepect > > > fellow players and I probably would have called him a liar if he did > > > it to another Poker player as well. > > > > > > I will definately try to avoid such confrontations in the future > > > unless it involves the fore mentioned villian. > > > > > > > > > TIA > > > Bob_a_booie > > > > Assuming you can "beat a bluff" by how you define a bluff, if you thought > > he was 50% bluffing than you were getting the pot odds to call anyway. You > > should have seen his cards legit. > > YOU REALLY SHOULD JUST STOP ANSWERING ANY POST THAT HAS ANYTHING TO DO > WITH POKER . > > Just stay in the kiddie pool and no one gets hurt !! EXPLAIN PLEASE LOL !! > > > > -- > > "Actually, I will read Jason's posts too. He's smart also." - Paul > > Popinjay, 10/21/2007 (http://tinyurl.com/4bggyp) > > > Jason,you, > sir, are much, much stupider than FangBanger. -- "Actually, I will read Jason's posts too. He's smart also." - Paul Popinjay, 10/21/2007 (http://tinyurl.com/4bggyp) --- * kill-files, watch-lists, favorites, and more.. www.recgroups.com
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Date: 20 Feb 2009 17:47:33
From: justbeats
Subject: Re: Was it acceptable poker ettiquete for him to lie that he will
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On 21 Feb, 01:42, "Mark B [Diputsur]" <[email protected] > wrote: > "justbeats" <[email protected]> wrote in message > > news:[email protected]m... > > > I got hit with that one. Twice. By the same person. In the same game. > > Second time round though - I asked if he would show, he said yes, I > > said, ok i fold. He laughed and mucked his cards (again). I pointed > > out I had the last legal hand... > > and he should have raked the pot anyway! =A0Verbal declarations > made in turn are binding you angle-shooting douche! ...and he got the pot for exactly that reason. But for one precious second, his face was a real picture ;-) Thank you for your gracious response.
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Date: 20 Feb 2009 18:46:06
From: FangBanger
Subject: Re: Was it acceptable poker ettiquete for him to lie that he will show his hand?
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On Feb 20 2009 7:47 PM, justbeats wrote: > On 21 Feb, 01:42, "Mark B [Diputsur]" <[email protected]> wrote: > > "justbeats" <[email protected]> wrote in message > > > > news:[email protected]m... > > > > > I got hit with that one. Twice. By the same person. In the same game. > > > Second time round though - I asked if he would show, he said yes, I > > > said, ok i fold. He laughed and mucked his cards (again). I pointed > > > out I had the last legal hand... > > > > and he should have raked the pot anyway! Verbal declarations > > made in turn are binding you angle-shooting douche! > > ....and he got the pot for exactly that reason. But for one precious > second, his face was a real picture ;-) > > Thank you for your gracious response. ok ..not bad .. excuse my last post .. actually that might be fun to do if u r planning on folding anyways Jason,you, sir, are much, much stupider than FangBanger. ------- looking for a better newsgroup-reader? - www.recgroups.com
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Date: 20 Feb 2009 17:35:28
From: justbeats
Subject: Re: Was it acceptable poker ettiquete for him to lie that he will
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On 21 Feb, 00:41, bob_a_booie <[email protected] > wrote: > Scenario: > 2-5 NL Holdem cash game in b&m casino in AC > 5 players limp in and I flop top pair on =A0a flop of baby cards and bet > out $25 > 1 caller > ace on the turn we both check > I check river and villain bets $100 > I assume It is 50% he is bluffing based on his agressive play > He likes to go over the top post flop with big bets > > I ask him "will you show me if I fold ?" and he said yes > I fold he mucks =A0tehn laughs and says I lied... > > I called him low class and later a liar and he called me =A0the MF word > He then made all kind of threats and kept using bad language wich I > returned in kind > leading to both being ejected from casino. > > In retrospect I should have walked away from the table instead. > I would never berate a player over bad beats and loose calls > but I really do not like dealing with bad manners and rude people. > > Was it acceptable =A0poker ettiquete for him to lie that he will show > his hand? > I know it is not enforcable by the floor but I do not like a stranger > thinking he can disrepect > fellow players and I probably would have called him a liar if he did > it to another Poker player as well. > > I will definately try to avoid such confrontations in the future > unless it involves the fore mentioned villian. > > TIA > Bob_a_booie I got hit with that one. Twice. By the same person. In the same game. Second time round though - I asked if he would show, he said yes, I said, ok i fold. He laughed and mucked his cards (again). I pointed out I had the last legal hand...
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Date: 20 Feb 2009 18:44:55
From: FangBanger
Subject: Re: Was it acceptable poker ettiquete for him to lie that he will show his hand?
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On Feb 20 2009 7:35 PM, justbeats wrote: > On 21 Feb, 00:41, bob_a_booie <[email protected]> wrote: > > Scenario: > > 2-5 NL Holdem cash game in b&m casino in AC > > 5 players limp in and I flop top pair on a flop of baby cards and bet > > out $25 > > 1 caller > > ace on the turn we both check > > I check river and villain bets $100 > > I assume It is 50% he is bluffing based on his agressive play > > He likes to go over the top post flop with big bets > > > > I ask him "will you show me if I fold ?" and he said yes > > I fold he mucks tehn laughs and says I lied... > > > > I called him low class and later a liar and he called me the MF word > > He then made all kind of threats and kept using bad language wich I > > returned in kind > > leading to both being ejected from casino. > > > > In retrospect I should have walked away from the table instead. > > I would never berate a player over bad beats and loose calls > > but I really do not like dealing with bad manners and rude people. > > > > Was it acceptable poker ettiquete for him to lie that he will show > > his hand? > > I know it is not enforcable by the floor but I do not like a stranger > > thinking he can disrepect > > fellow players and I probably would have called him a liar if he did > > it to another Poker player as well. > > > > I will definately try to avoid such confrontations in the future > > unless it involves the fore mentioned villian. > > > > TIA > > Bob_a_booie > > I got hit with that one. Twice. By the same person. In the same game. > Second time round though - I asked if he would show, he said yes, I > said, ok i fold. He laughed and mucked his cards (again). I pointed > out I had the last legal hand... YOU ARE A LIAR .. even in Mississippi , your hand is dead in that verbal is binding .. Very bad attempt at trying to make us believe that you ousmarted someone . Your hand is dead anywhere in the world Jason,you, sir, are much, much stupider than FangBanger. ______________________________________________________________________ looking for a better newsgroup-reader? - www.recgroups.com
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Date: 20 Feb 2009 20:42:16
From: Mark B [Diputsur]
Subject: Re: Was it acceptable poker ettiquete for him to lie that he will show his hand?
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"justbeats" <[email protected] > wrote in message news:[email protected]m... > I got hit with that one. Twice. By the same person. In the same game. > Second time round though - I asked if he would show, he said yes, I > said, ok i fold. He laughed and mucked his cards (again). I pointed > out I had the last legal hand... and he should have raked the pot anyway! Verbal declarations made in turn are binding you angle-shooting douche!
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Date: 20 Feb 2009 17:34:05
From: bgadams
Subject: Re: Was it acceptable poker ettiquete for him to lie that he will show his hand?
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On Feb 20 2009 8:41 PM, bob_a_booie wrote: > Scenario: > 2-5 NL Holdem cash game in b&m casino in AC > 5 players limp in and I flop top pair on a flop of baby cards and bet > out $25 > 1 caller > ace on the turn we both check > I check river and villain bets $100 > I assume It is 50% he is bluffing based on his agressive play > He likes to go over the top post flop with big bets > > I ask him "will you show me if I fold ?" and he said yes > I fold he mucks tehn laughs and says I lied... > > I called him low class and later a liar and he called me the MF word > He then made all kind of threats and kept using bad language wich I > returned in kind > leading to both being ejected from casino. > > In retrospect I should have walked away from the table instead. > I would never berate a player over bad beats and loose calls > but I really do not like dealing with bad manners and rude people. > > Was it acceptable poker ettiquete for him to lie that he will show > his hand? > I know it is not enforcable by the floor but I do not like a stranger > thinking he can disrepect > fellow players and I probably would have called him a liar if he did > it to another Poker player as well. > > I will definately try to avoid such confrontations in the future > unless it involves the fore mentioned villian. > > > TIA > Bob_a_booie First of all, it's a stupid question to ask and base your decision on. Second of all, it's kinda dumb to believe anything a poker player tells you. He had every right to do what he did. -------- RecGroups : the community-oriented newsreader : www.recgroups.com
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Date: 20 Feb 2009 20:12:02
From: Mark B [Diputsur]
Subject: Re: Was it acceptable poker ettiquete for him to lie that he will show his hand?
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"bob_a_booie" <[email protected] > wrote in message news:[email protected]m... > Scenario: > 2-5 NL Holdem cash game in b&m casino in AC > 5 players limp in and I flop top pair on a flop of baby cards and bet > out $25 > 1 caller > ace on the turn we both check > I check river and villain bets $100 > I assume It is 50% he is bluffing based on his agressive play > He likes to go over the top post flop with big bets > > I ask him "will you show me if I fold ?" Did you fold yours face up so the table could see the shit hand you wanted to call him with? > Was it acceptable poker ettiquete for him to lie that > he will show his hand? Yes. But you carrying on like a little bitch after the fact was way out of line.
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Date: 20 Feb 2009 17:00:46
From: Jason Pawloski
Subject: Re: Was it acceptable poker ettiquete for him to lie that he will show his hand?
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On Feb 20 2009 5:41 PM, bob_a_booie wrote: > Scenario: > 2-5 NL Holdem cash game in b&m casino in AC > 5 players limp in and I flop top pair on a flop of baby cards and bet > out $25 > 1 caller > ace on the turn we both check > I check river and villain bets $100 > I assume It is 50% he is bluffing based on his agressive play > He likes to go over the top post flop with big bets > > I ask him "will you show me if I fold ?" and he said yes > I fold he mucks tehn laughs and says I lied... > > I called him low class and later a liar and he called me the MF word > He then made all kind of threats and kept using bad language wich I > returned in kind > leading to both being ejected from casino. > > In retrospect I should have walked away from the table instead. > I would never berate a player over bad beats and loose calls > but I really do not like dealing with bad manners and rude people. > > Was it acceptable poker ettiquete for him to lie that he will show > his hand? > I know it is not enforcable by the floor but I do not like a stranger > thinking he can disrepect > fellow players and I probably would have called him a liar if he did > it to another Poker player as well. > > I will definately try to avoid such confrontations in the future > unless it involves the fore mentioned villian. > > > TIA > Bob_a_booie *adds thread to watchlist* -- "Actually, I will read Jason's posts too. He's smart also." - Paul Popinjay, 10/21/2007 (http://tinyurl.com/4bggyp) -------- : the next generation of web-newsreaders : http://www.recgroups.com
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Date: 20 Feb 2009 16:58:46
From: FangBanger
Subject: Re: Was it acceptable poker ettiquete for him to lie that he will show his hand?
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On Feb 20 2009 6:41 PM, bob_a_booie wrote: > Scenario: > 2-5 NL Holdem cash game in b&m casino in AC > 5 players limp in and I flop top pair on a flop of baby cards and bet > out $25 > 1 caller > ace on the turn we both check > I check river and villain bets $100 > I assume It is 50% he is bluffing based on his agressive play > He likes to go over the top post flop with big bets > > I ask him "will you show me if I fold ?" and he said yes > I fold he mucks tehn laughs and says I lied... > > I called him low class and later a liar and he called me the MF word > He then made all kind of threats and kept using bad language wich I > returned in kind > leading to both being ejected from casino. > > In retrospect I should have walked away from the table instead. > I would never berate a player over bad beats and loose calls > but I really do not like dealing with bad manners and rude people. > > Was it acceptable poker ettiquete for him to lie that he will show > his hand? > I know it is not enforcable by the floor but I do not like a stranger > thinking he can disrepect > fellow players and I probably would have called him a liar if he did > it to another Poker player as well. > > I will definately try to avoid such confrontations in the future > unless it involves the fore mentioned villian. > > > TIA > Bob_a_booie What he did was completely correct and within the boundaries of decency as well. When you asked him if he would show , you were trying to garner information . You created the dialogue and he used it to his advantage . he outplayed you at your own game . grownups dont ask that question in a poker game . Jason,you, sir, are much, much stupider than FangBanger. ---- : the next generation of web-newsreaders : http://www.recgroups.com
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Date: 21 Feb 2009 00:35:36
From: Arlo-Payne
Subject: Re: Was it acceptable poker ettiquete for him to lie that he will show his hand?
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I can honestly say I have never asked "will you show if I fold" in my whole lifetime. This is crap that started on TV. Also before the TV crap you never saw people take for ever to decide what to do on a hand. I will almost bet Doyle has never taken over a 60 seconds to decide on a hand in his whole life. On Feb 20 2009 5:58 PM, FangBanger wrote: > On Feb 20 2009 6:41 PM, bob_a_booie wrote: > > > Scenario: > > 2-5 NL Holdem cash game in b&m casino in AC > > 5 players limp in and I flop top pair on a flop of baby cards and bet > > out $25 > > 1 caller > > ace on the turn we both check > > I check river and villain bets $100 > > I assume It is 50% he is bluffing based on his agressive play > > He likes to go over the top post flop with big bets > > > > I ask him "will you show me if I fold ?" and he said yes > > I fold he mucks tehn laughs and says I lied... > > > > I called him low class and later a liar and he called me the MF word > > He then made all kind of threats and kept using bad language wich I > > returned in kind > > leading to both being ejected from casino. > > > > In retrospect I should have walked away from the table instead. > > I would never berate a player over bad beats and loose calls > > but I really do not like dealing with bad manners and rude people. > > > > Was it acceptable poker ettiquete for him to lie that he will show > > his hand? > > I know it is not enforcable by the floor but I do not like a stranger > > thinking he can disrepect > > fellow players and I probably would have called him a liar if he did > > it to another Poker player as well. > > > > I will definately try to avoid such confrontations in the future > > unless it involves the fore mentioned villian. > > > > > > TIA > > Bob_a_booie > > What he did was completely correct and within the boundaries of decency as > well. When you asked him if he would show , you were trying to garner > information . You created the dialogue and he used it to his advantage . > > he outplayed you at your own game . grownups dont ask that question in a > poker game . > > > Jason,you, > sir, are much, much stupider than FangBanger. ________________________________________________________________________ * kill-files, watch-lists, favorites, and more.. www.recgroups.com
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Date: 21 Feb 2009 06:21:38
From: FangBanger
Subject: Re: Was it acceptable poker ettiquete for him to lie that he will show his hand?
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On Feb 21 2009 2:35 AM, Arlo-Payne wrote: > I can honestly say I have never asked "will you show if I fold" in my > whole lifetime. > This is crap that started on TV. > > Also before the TV crap you never saw people take for ever to decide what > to do on a hand. > I will almost bet Doyle has never taken over a 60 seconds to decide on a > hand in his whole life. > WHERE WERE YOU IN MY "NEW STRATEGY" THREAD ? (sorry caps) > > On Feb 20 2009 5:58 PM, FangBanger wrote: > > > On Feb 20 2009 6:41 PM, bob_a_booie wrote: > > > > > Scenario: > > > 2-5 NL Holdem cash game in b&m casino in AC > > > 5 players limp in and I flop top pair on a flop of baby cards and bet > > > out $25 > > > 1 caller > > > ace on the turn we both check > > > I check river and villain bets $100 > > > I assume It is 50% he is bluffing based on his agressive play > > > He likes to go over the top post flop with big bets > > > > > > I ask him "will you show me if I fold ?" and he said yes > > > I fold he mucks tehn laughs and says I lied... > > > > > > I called him low class and later a liar and he called me the MF word > > > He then made all kind of threats and kept using bad language wich I > > > returned in kind > > > leading to both being ejected from casino. > > > > > > In retrospect I should have walked away from the table instead. > > > I would never berate a player over bad beats and loose calls > > > but I really do not like dealing with bad manners and rude people. > > > > > > Was it acceptable poker ettiquete for him to lie that he will show > > > his hand? > > > I know it is not enforcable by the floor but I do not like a stranger > > > thinking he can disrepect > > > fellow players and I probably would have called him a liar if he did > > > it to another Poker player as well. > > > > > > I will definately try to avoid such confrontations in the future > > > unless it involves the fore mentioned villian. > > > > > > > > > TIA > > > Bob_a_booie > > > > What he did was completely correct and within the boundaries of decency as > > well. When you asked him if he would show , you were trying to garner > > information . You created the dialogue and he used it to his advantage . > > > > he outplayed you at your own game . grownups dont ask that question in a > > poker game . > > > > > > Jason,you, > > sir, are much, much stupider than FangBanger. Jason,you, sir, are much, much stupider than FangBanger. --- : the next generation of web-newsreaders : http://www.recgroups.com
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Date: 20 Feb 2009 19:46:50
From: A Man Beaten by Jacks
Subject: Re: Was it acceptable poker ettiquete for him to lie that he will show his hand?
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On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 16:41:12 -0800 (PST), bob_a_booie <[email protected] > wrote: >Scenario: >2-5 NL Holdem cash game in b&m casino in AC >5 players limp in and I flop top pair on a flop of baby cards and bet >out $25 >1 caller >ace on the turn we both check >I check river and villain bets $100 >I assume It is 50% he is bluffing based on his agressive play >He likes to go over the top post flop with big bets >I ask him "will you show me if I fold ?" and he said yes >I fold he mucks tehn laughs and says I lied... >I called him low class and later a liar and he called me the MF word >He then made all kind of threats and kept using bad language wich I >returned in kind >leading to both being ejected from casino. You were both douchebags, but worse, YOU were a sucker. If he'd done that to put you on tilt, he'd have been a winner and you'd have been a loser. As it was, you were both losers.
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