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Date: 23 Dec 2008 09:21:32
From: Tom
Subject: rental car keys
This one has driven me crazy for years.
Why in the world do rental cars have 2 of
the biggest damn keys in the world and a
huge tag, and all 3 of them are cabled
together. That is quite a load to carry
around in your pocket. Get stabbed in
leg every time I sit down. It has to be the
dumbest thing in the world to have both
keys, when you can't seperate them and
use one as a spare. I realize people will
just lose the second one, but why in the
hell do they have to put two of them
together? I cannot think of a single
rational reason.






 
Date: 25 Dec 2008 08:45:29
From: Raider Fan
Subject: Re: rental car keys
On Dec 23 2008 10:21 AM, Tom wrote:

> This one has driven me crazy for years.
> Why in the world do rental cars have 2 of
> the biggest damn keys in the world and a
> huge tag, and all 3 of them are cabled
> together.

As somebody who was late for a flight going through security and realizing
he still had the keys for the rental car, I can tell you. I hadn't even
got on the plane before my wife called my cell to tell me I still had the
keys.

I had to overnight them with Saturday delivery in order to avoid a $200
rekeying charge.

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Date: 25 Dec 2008 10:51:02
From: da pickle
Subject: Re: rental car keys
"Tom"

> This one has driven me crazy for years.
> Why in the world do rental cars have 2 of
> the biggest damn keys in the world and a
> huge tag, and all 3 of them are cabled
> together. That is quite a load to carry
> around in your pocket. Get stabbed in
> leg every time I sit down. It has to be the
> dumbest thing in the world to have both
> keys, when you can't seperate them and
> use one as a spare. I realize people will
> just lose the second one, but why in the
> hell do they have to put two of them
> together? I cannot think of a single
> rational reason.

One reason might be to keep the two keys together for when the car is sold.
Cars usually do not last long in the rental market.

Keeping track of the "extra" key in some central location might be a
logistics problem they do not want. The cars can get widespread and might
be "sold" at some location quite a distance from the origin. No reason not
to have the keys with the car.

I agree it seems a burden, but we are helping keep the cost of renting low
by providing storage for the extra key. (Some of the new keys are very
expensive to duplicate.)




  
Date: 25 Dec 2008 14:51:25
From: Joe Long
Subject: Re: rental car keys
da pickle wrote:
> "Tom"
>
>> This one has driven me crazy for years.
>> Why in the world do rental cars have 2 of
>> the biggest damn keys in the world and a
>> huge tag, and all 3 of them are cabled
>> together. That is quite a load to carry
>> around in your pocket. Get stabbed in
>> leg every time I sit down. It has to be the
>> dumbest thing in the world to have both
>> keys, when you can't seperate them and
>> use one as a spare. I realize people will
>> just lose the second one, but why in the
>> hell do they have to put two of them
>> together? I cannot think of a single
>> rational reason.
>
> One reason might be to keep the two keys together for when the car is sold.
> Cars usually do not last long in the rental market.
>
> Keeping track of the "extra" key in some central location might be a
> logistics problem they do not want. The cars can get widespread and might
> be "sold" at some location quite a distance from the origin. No reason not
> to have the keys with the car.
>
> I agree it seems a burden, but we are helping keep the cost of renting low
> by providing storage for the extra key. (Some of the new keys are very
> expensive to duplicate.)

I can vouch for that as a reason, but they don't always do it. My
recent rentals have had only a single key and a small tag.

I bought a Mazda Miata from Hertz a couple of years ago (to be a
temporary car, I've since sold it). It came with only one key, a
"switchblade" key with electronic door lock and trunk opener. It cost
me a couple of hundred bucks to get a second key made.

My new Miata GT (bought last month) has the new "keyless" electronic
card. As long as I have the card on my person, I can open the door or
trunk and start the car without a key. Neat.


--
Joe Long aka ChipRider
Somewhere on the Range


  
Date: 25 Dec 2008 11:00:23
From: mccard
Subject: Re: rental car keys

"da pickle" <jcpickels@(nospam)hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:qMydnbVjFvJgJM7U4p2dnAA@giganews.com...
> "Tom"
>
>> This one has driven me crazy for years.
>> Why in the world do rental cars have 2 of
>> the biggest damn keys in the world and a
>> huge tag, and all 3 of them are cabled
>> together. That is quite a load to carry
>> around in your pocket. Get stabbed in
>> leg every time I sit down. It has to be the
>> dumbest thing in the world to have both
>> keys, when you can't seperate them and
>> use one as a spare. I realize people will
>> just lose the second one, but why in the
>> hell do they have to put two of them
>> together? I cannot think of a single
>> rational reason.
>
> One reason might be to keep the two keys together for when the car is
> sold. Cars usually do not last long in the rental market.
>
> Keeping track of the "extra" key in some central location might be a
> logistics problem they do not want. The cars can get widespread and might
> be "sold" at some location quite a distance from the origin. No reason
> not to have the keys with the car.
>
> I agree it seems a burden, but we are helping keep the cost of renting low
> by providing storage for the extra key. (Some of the new keys are very
> expensive to duplicate.)
>
Keys shouldn't be necessary in this time of sophisticated electronic
systems. You just need some kind of biometric id. We have all seen how
fingerprints can be faked, but a larger surface area would be ideal. How
about a big ole butt print id. You could have the reader on the drivers
side door. Dude just whips down his drawers, puts his cheeks in place and
presto, the locks flip, the car starts and off he goes. Nothing to bulge in
the pants except nature's gift of perfectly unique id. Merry Christmas all.



 
Date: 23 Dec 2008 15:19:47
From: pltrgyst
Subject: Re: rental car keys
On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:21:32 -0700, "Tom" <aceking@bbc.net > wrote:

>This one has driven me crazy for years.
>Why in the world do rental cars have 2 of
>the biggest damn keys in the world and a
>huge tag, and all 3 of them are cabled
>together. That is quite a load to carry
>around in your pocket. Get stabbed in
>leg every time I sit down. It has to be the
>dumbest thing in the world to have both
>keys, when you can't seperate them and
>use one as a spare. I realize people will
>just lose the second one, but why in the
>hell do they have to put two of them
>together? I cannot think of a single
>rational reason.

That's because there isn't one. For my last Toyato 4-runner rental from Budget,
the bundle consisted of a large tag, two keys, and a separate wireless fob, all
wired together. Ridiculous.

Since I always carry a small pair of diagonal cutters for dealing with cable
ties on my luggage, the first thing I do is to cut the cable so I can carry only
a single key. When I return the car, I explain and give them everything, and
I've never heard a word of complaint in return.

If everyone would do this, they might get the message.

Another option might be to return the car with only one key, having chucked the
rest, explaining that that's all you were given, and let them deal with it. But
that would be abandoning the high (honest) road.

-- Larry


  
Date: 25 Dec 2008 08:18:26
From: garycarson
Subject: Re: rental car keys
On Dec 23 2008 3:19 PM, pltrgyst wrote:

> On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:21:32 -0700, "Tom" <aceking@bbc.net> wrote:
>
> >This one has driven me crazy for years.
> >Why in the world do rental cars have 2 of
> >the biggest damn keys in the world and a
> >huge tag, and all 3 of them are cabled
> >together. That is quite a load to carry
> >around in your pocket. Get stabbed in
> >leg every time I sit down. It has to be the
> >dumbest thing in the world to have both
> >keys, when you can't seperate them and
> >use one as a spare. I realize people will
> >just lose the second one, but why in the
> >hell do they have to put two of them
> >together? I cannot think of a single
> >rational reason.
>
> That's because there isn't one. For my last Toyato 4-runner rental from
Budget,
> the bundle consisted of a large tag, two keys, and a separate wireless fob,
all
> wired together. Ridiculous.

Actually, there is a rational reason for doing that. I can think of one,
there are probably many more. I don't know that the one I can think of is
actually the reason they do it, but it might be, and it's rational.

Just because you don't know the answer to a question doesn't mean the
que3stion is wrong. Just becuase you don't know why grass is green
doesn't mean that grass isw brown. Wait a minute. It's December. Grass
is brown. Never mind.

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Date: 23 Dec 2008 08:42:32
From: StinkFist
Subject: Re: rental car keys
On Dec 23, 10:21=A0am, "Tom" <acek...@bbc.net > wrote:
> This one has driven me crazy for years.
> Why in the world do rental cars have 2 of
> the biggest damn keys in the world and a
> huge tag, and all 3 of them are cabled
> together. =A0That is quite a load to carry
> around in your pocket. =A0Get stabbed in
> leg every time I sit down. =A0It has to be the
> dumbest thing in the world to have both
> keys, when you can't seperate them and
> use one as a spare. =A0I realize people will
> just lose the second one, but why in the
> hell do they have to put two of them
> together? =A0I cannot think of a single
> rational reason.

Get a limo.