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Date: 28 Nov 2006 02:48:53
From: Old Wolf
Subject: stud8: was this just a bad beat or am I way off base here [BAHH]
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Before anyone comments on the starting hand selection, I don't
mind limping in with 3 suited if none or one of that suit are dead,
and I catch another one on 4th. Is this a bad idea?
Also, why didn't my opponent raise the river?
PokerStars Game #7209085176: 7 Card Stud Hi/Lo Limit ($2/$4) -
2006/11/28 - 05:38:11 (ET)
Table 'Nihal III' 8-max
Seat 1: Old Wolf NZ ($52.75 in chips)
Seat 2: Anna508 ($48.50 in chips)
Seat 4: MiracleFlop ($98 in chips)
Seat 5: 4141Joey G. ($78 in chips)
Seat 6: hkmonsson79 ($140 in chips)
Seat 7: Meesy ($171.75 in chips)
Seat 8: jewtn53 ($45.50 in chips)
Old Wolf NZ: posts the ante $0.25
Anna508: posts the ante $0.25
MiracleFlop: posts the ante $0.25
4141Joey G.: posts the ante $0.25
hkmonsson79: posts the ante $0.25
Meesy: posts the ante $0.25
jewtn53: posts the ante $0.25
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js 3s 9s]
Dealt to Anna508 [Ts]
Dealt to MiracleFlop [4h]
Dealt to 4141Joey G. [8d]
Dealt to hkmonsson79 [5c]
Dealt to Meesy [7h]
Dealt to jewtn53 [6d]
MiracleFlop: brings-in low $1
4141Joey G.: folds
hkmonsson79: raises $1 to $2
Meesy: calls $2
jewtn53: folds
Old Wolf NZ: calls $2
Anna508: folds
MiracleFlop: folds
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js 3s 9s] [5s]
Dealt to hkmonsson79 [5c] [Kh]
Dealt to Meesy [7h] [Td]
hkmonsson79: checks
Meesy: checks
Old Wolf NZ: checks
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js 3s 9s 5s] [7s]
Dealt to hkmonsson79 [5c Kh] [6h]
Dealt to Meesy [7h Td] [9d]
hkmonsson79: bets $4
Meesy: calls $4
Old Wolf NZ: raises $4 to $8
hkmonsson79: calls $4
Meesy: folds
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js 3s 9s 5s 7s] [Qc]
Dealt to hkmonsson79 [5c Kh 6h] [8h]
hkmonsson79: checks
Old Wolf NZ: bets $4
hkmonsson79: calls $4
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js 3s 9s 5s 7s Qc] [3d]
hkmonsson79: checks
Old Wolf NZ: bets $4
hkmonsson79: calls $4
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Old Wolf NZ: shows [Js 3s 9s 5s 7s Qc 3d] (HI: a flush, Jack high)
hkmonsson79: shows [6s 2h 5c Kh 6h 8h Th] (HI: a flush, King high)
hkmonsson79 collected $42.75 from pot
No low hand qualified
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $44.75
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 10:04:18
From: MysteriAce
Subject: Re: stud8: was this just a bad beat or am I way off base here [BAHH]
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On Nov 28 2006 3:48 AM, Old Wolf wrote:
> Before anyone comments on the starting hand selection, I don't
> mind limping in with 3 suited if none or one of that suit are dead,
> and I catch another one on 4th. Is this a bad idea?
Yes. Try to stick to hands that have good potential in both directions.
The goal is to scoop the pot (and, yes, I do see that your opponent
"scooped the pot", but that isn't what I mean at all..
>
> Also, why didn't my opponent raise the river?
I don't know. Since he was first to act, I guess the question is why he
didn't bet the river to begin with ... ?
>
> PokerStars Game #7209085176: 7 Card Stud Hi/Lo Limit ($2/$4) -
> 2006/11/28 - 05:38:11 (ET)
> Table 'Nihal III' 8-max
> Seat 1: Old Wolf NZ ($52.75 in chips)
> Seat 2: Anna508 ($48.50 in chips)
> Seat 4: MiracleFlop ($98 in chips)
> Seat 5: 4141Joey G. ($78 in chips)
> Seat 6: hkmonsson79 ($140 in chips)
> Seat 7: Meesy ($171.75 in chips)
> Seat 8: jewtn53 ($45.50 in chips)
> Old Wolf NZ: posts the ante $0.25
> Anna508: posts the ante $0.25
> MiracleFlop: posts the ante $0.25
> 4141Joey G.: posts the ante $0.25
> hkmonsson79: posts the ante $0.25
> Meesy: posts the ante $0.25
> jewtn53: posts the ante $0.25
> *** 3rd STREET ***
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js 3s 9s]
> Dealt to Anna508 [Ts]
> Dealt to MiracleFlop [4h]
> Dealt to 4141Joey G. [8d]
> Dealt to hkmonsson79 [5c]
> Dealt to Meesy [7h]
> Dealt to jewtn53 [6d]
> MiracleFlop: brings-in low $1
> 4141Joey G.: folds
> hkmonsson79: raises $1 to $2
> Meesy: calls $2
> jewtn53: folds
> Old Wolf NZ: calls $2
> Anna508: folds
> MiracleFlop: folds
> *** 4th STREET ***
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js 3s 9s] [5s]
> Dealt to hkmonsson79 [5c] [Kh]
> Dealt to Meesy [7h] [Td]
> hkmonsson79: checks
> Meesy: checks
> Old Wolf NZ: checks
> *** 5th STREET ***
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js 3s 9s 5s] [7s]
> Dealt to hkmonsson79 [5c Kh] [6h]
> Dealt to Meesy [7h Td] [9d]
> hkmonsson79: bets $4
> Meesy: calls $4
> Old Wolf NZ: raises $4 to $8
> hkmonsson79: calls $4
> Meesy: folds
> *** 6th STREET ***
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js 3s 9s 5s 7s] [Qc]
> Dealt to hkmonsson79 [5c Kh 6h] [8h]
> hkmonsson79: checks
> Old Wolf NZ: bets $4
> hkmonsson79: calls $4
> *** RIVER ***
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js 3s 9s 5s 7s Qc] [3d]
> hkmonsson79: checks
> Old Wolf NZ: bets $4
> hkmonsson79: calls $4
> *** SHOW DOWN ***
> Old Wolf NZ: shows [Js 3s 9s 5s 7s Qc 3d] (HI: a flush, Jack high)
> hkmonsson79: shows [6s 2h 5c Kh 6h 8h Th] (HI: a flush, King high)
> hkmonsson79 collected $42.75 from pot
> No low hand qualified
> *** SUMMARY ***
> Total pot $44.75
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Date: 28 Nov 15:40:04
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: stud8: was this just a bad beat or am I way off base here [BAHH]
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On Nov 28 2006 3:48 AM, Old Wolf wrote:
> Before anyone comments on the starting hand selection, I don't
> mind limping in with 3 suited if none or one of that suit are dead,
> and I catch another one on 4th. Is this a bad idea?
I'm sure it is since I do it as well, and I'm not stud player.
>
> Also, why didn't my opponent raise the river?
>
> PokerStars Game #7209085176: 7 Card Stud Hi/Lo Limit ($2/$4) -
> 2006/11/28 - 05:38:11 (ET)
> Table 'Nihal III' 8-max
> Seat 1: Old Wolf NZ ($52.75 in chips)
> Seat 2: Anna508 ($48.50 in chips)
> Seat 4: MiracleFlop ($98 in chips)
> Seat 5: 4141Joey G. ($78 in chips)
> Seat 6: hkmonsson79 ($140 in chips)
> Seat 7: Meesy ($171.75 in chips)
> Seat 8: jewtn53 ($45.50 in chips)
> Old Wolf NZ: posts the ante $0.25
> Anna508: posts the ante $0.25
> MiracleFlop: posts the ante $0.25
> 4141Joey G.: posts the ante $0.25
> hkmonsson79: posts the ante $0.25
> Meesy: posts the ante $0.25
> jewtn53: posts the ante $0.25
> *** 3rd STREET ***
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js 3s 9s]
> Dealt to Anna508 [Ts]
> Dealt to MiracleFlop [4h]
> Dealt to 4141Joey G. [8d]
> Dealt to hkmonsson79 [5c]
> Dealt to Meesy [7h]
> Dealt to jewtn53 [6d]
> MiracleFlop: brings-in low $1
> 4141Joey G.: folds
> hkmonsson79: raises $1 to $2
> Meesy: calls $2
> jewtn53: folds
> Old Wolf NZ: calls $2
> Anna508: folds
> MiracleFlop: folds
> *** 4th STREET ***
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js 3s 9s] [5s]
> Dealt to hkmonsson79 [5c] [Kh]
> Dealt to Meesy [7h] [Td]
> hkmonsson79: checks
> Meesy: checks
> Old Wolf NZ: checks
No, NO NOOOO...bet this puppy, you have 4 to the flush in the first 4 cards,
what the hell are you waiting on?? NEVER let your opponent get a free card!!
> *** 5th STREET ***
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js 3s 9s 5s] [7s]
> Dealt to hkmonsson79 [5c Kh] [6h]
> Dealt to Meesy [7h Td] [9d]
> hkmonsson79: bets $4
> Meesy: calls $4
> Old Wolf NZ: raises $4 to $8
Very good.
> hkmonsson79: calls $4
> Meesy: folds
> *** 6th STREET ***
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js 3s 9s 5s 7s] [Qc]
> Dealt to hkmonsson79 [5c Kh 6h] [8h]
> hkmonsson79: checks
> Old Wolf NZ: bets $4
OK, but 3 hearts on his board with a K.....hmmmm....
> hkmonsson79: calls $4
> *** RIVER ***
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js 3s 9s 5s 7s Qc] [3d]
> hkmonsson79: checks
> Old Wolf NZ: bets $4
OK, at this point, I'm "GL" to myself.
> hkmonsson79: calls $4
> *** SHOW DOWN ***
> Old Wolf NZ: shows [Js 3s 9s 5s 7s Qc 3d] (HI: a flush, Jack high)
> hkmonsson79: shows [6s 2h 5c Kh 6h 8h Th] (HI: a flush, King high)
He didn't raise because he didn't have an Ace high flush, he thought there was a
possibility that your flush would beat his flush, hence no raise.
No bad beat, just a better hand beat yours, IMO.
T
> hkmonsson79 collected $42.75 from pot
> No low hand qualified
> *** SUMMARY ***
> Total pot $44.75
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Date: 28 Nov 14:35:12
From: jason b
Subject: Re: stud8: was this just a bad beat or am I way off base here [BAHH]
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YOU SUCK
FOLD THAT GARBAGE
On Nov 28 2006 5:48 AM, Old Wolf wrote:
> Before anyone comments on the starting hand selection, I don't
> mind limping in with 3 suited if none or one of that suit are dead,
> and I catch another one on 4th. Is this a bad idea?
>
> Also, why didn't my opponent raise the river?
>
> PokerStars Game #7209085176: 7 Card Stud Hi/Lo Limit ($2/$4) -
> 2006/11/28 - 05:38:11 (ET)
> Table 'Nihal III' 8-max
> Seat 1: Old Wolf NZ ($52.75 in chips)
> Seat 2: Anna508 ($48.50 in chips)
> Seat 4: MiracleFlop ($98 in chips)
> Seat 5: 4141Joey G. ($78 in chips)
> Seat 6: hkmonsson79 ($140 in chips)
> Seat 7: Meesy ($171.75 in chips)
> Seat 8: jewtn53 ($45.50 in chips)
> Old Wolf NZ: posts the ante $0.25
> Anna508: posts the ante $0.25
> MiracleFlop: posts the ante $0.25
> 4141Joey G.: posts the ante $0.25
> hkmonsson79: posts the ante $0.25
> Meesy: posts the ante $0.25
> jewtn53: posts the ante $0.25
> *** 3rd STREET ***
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js 3s 9s]
> Dealt to Anna508 [Ts]
> Dealt to MiracleFlop [4h]
> Dealt to 4141Joey G. [8d]
> Dealt to hkmonsson79 [5c]
> Dealt to Meesy [7h]
> Dealt to jewtn53 [6d]
> MiracleFlop: brings-in low $1
> 4141Joey G.: folds
> hkmonsson79: raises $1 to $2
> Meesy: calls $2
> jewtn53: folds
> Old Wolf NZ: calls $2
> Anna508: folds
> MiracleFlop: folds
> *** 4th STREET ***
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js 3s 9s] [5s]
> Dealt to hkmonsson79 [5c] [Kh]
> Dealt to Meesy [7h] [Td]
> hkmonsson79: checks
> Meesy: checks
> Old Wolf NZ: checks
> *** 5th STREET ***
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js 3s 9s 5s] [7s]
> Dealt to hkmonsson79 [5c Kh] [6h]
> Dealt to Meesy [7h Td] [9d]
> hkmonsson79: bets $4
> Meesy: calls $4
> Old Wolf NZ: raises $4 to $8
> hkmonsson79: calls $4
> Meesy: folds
> *** 6th STREET ***
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js 3s 9s 5s 7s] [Qc]
> Dealt to hkmonsson79 [5c Kh 6h] [8h]
> hkmonsson79: checks
> Old Wolf NZ: bets $4
> hkmonsson79: calls $4
> *** RIVER ***
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js 3s 9s 5s 7s Qc] [3d]
> hkmonsson79: checks
> Old Wolf NZ: bets $4
> hkmonsson79: calls $4
> *** SHOW DOWN ***
> Old Wolf NZ: shows [Js 3s 9s 5s 7s Qc 3d] (HI: a flush, Jack high)
> hkmonsson79: shows [6s 2h 5c Kh 6h 8h Th] (HI: a flush, King high)
> hkmonsson79 collected $42.75 from pot
> No low hand qualified
> *** SUMMARY ***
> Total pot $44.75
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 04:50:02
From: xyious
Subject: Re: stud8: was this just a bad beat or am I way off base here [BAHH]
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On Nov 28 2006 11:48 AM, Old Wolf wrote:
> Before anyone comments on the starting hand selection, I don't
> mind limping in with 3 suited if none or one of that suit are dead,
> and I catch another one on 4th. Is this a bad idea?
i normally toss these, especially since you only have one low card.
probably profitable tho, i wouldn't be sure, but marginal regardless.
> Also, why didn't my opponent raise the river?
>
> PokerStars Game #7209085176: 7 Card Stud Hi/Lo Limit ($2/$4) -
> 2006/11/28 - 05:38:11 (ET)
> Table 'Nihal III' 8-max
> Seat 1: Old Wolf NZ ($52.75 in chips)
> Seat 2: Anna508 ($48.50 in chips)
> Seat 4: MiracleFlop ($98 in chips)
> Seat 5: 4141Joey G. ($78 in chips)
> Seat 6: hkmonsson79 ($140 in chips)
> Seat 7: Meesy ($171.75 in chips)
> Seat 8: jewtn53 ($45.50 in chips)
> Old Wolf NZ: posts the ante $0.25
> Anna508: posts the ante $0.25
> MiracleFlop: posts the ante $0.25
> 4141Joey G.: posts the ante $0.25
> hkmonsson79: posts the ante $0.25
> Meesy: posts the ante $0.25
> jewtn53: posts the ante $0.25
> *** 3rd STREET ***
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js 3s 9s]
> Dealt to Anna508 [Ts]
> Dealt to MiracleFlop [4h]
> Dealt to 4141Joey G. [8d]
> Dealt to hkmonsson79 [5c]
> Dealt to Meesy [7h]
> Dealt to jewtn53 [6d]
> MiracleFlop: brings-in low $1
> 4141Joey G.: folds
> hkmonsson79: raises $1 to $2
> Meesy: calls $2
> jewtn53: folds
> Old Wolf NZ: calls $2
> Anna508: folds
> MiracleFlop: folds
> *** 4th STREET ***
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js 3s 9s] [5s]
> Dealt to hkmonsson79 [5c] [Kh]
> Dealt to Meesy [7h] [Td]
> hkmonsson79: checks
> Meesy: checks
> Old Wolf NZ: checks
i might have bet here.
> *** 5th STREET ***
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js 3s 9s 5s] [7s]
> Dealt to hkmonsson79 [5c Kh] [6h]
> Dealt to Meesy [7h Td] [9d]
> hkmonsson79: bets $4
> Meesy: calls $4
> Old Wolf NZ: raises $4 to $8
definitely nothing wrong with this one.
> hkmonsson79: calls $4
> Meesy: folds
> *** 6th STREET ***
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js 3s 9s 5s 7s] [Qc]
> Dealt to hkmonsson79 [5c Kh 6h] [8h]
> hkmonsson79: checks
> Old Wolf NZ: bets $4
> hkmonsson79: calls $4
> *** RIVER ***
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js 3s 9s 5s 7s Qc] [3d]
> hkmonsson79: checks
> Old Wolf NZ: bets $4
> hkmonsson79: calls $4
> *** SHOW DOWN ***
> Old Wolf NZ: shows [Js 3s 9s 5s 7s Qc 3d] (HI: a flush, Jack high)
> hkmonsson79: shows [6s 2h 5c Kh 6h 8h Th] (HI: a flush, King high)
very unlucky in the end.
he probably didn't think he'd win (the whole pot). you could have easily
had K-J high flush, or ace high, and you had very probable low on the
board.
> hkmonsson79 collected $42.75 from pot
> No low hand qualified
> *** SUMMARY ***
> Total pot $44.75
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 12:27:06
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: stud8: was this just a bad beat or am I way off base here [BAHH]
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> i wouldn't be sure
Well fuck me sideways, torx finally got something right.
Morphy
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 18:50:14
From: xyious
Subject: Re: stud8: was this just a bad beat or am I way off base here [BAHH]
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On Nov 28 2006 9:27 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:
> > i wouldn't be sure
>
> Well fuck me sideways, torx finally got something right.
are you proud of me ?
>
> Morphy
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