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Date: 15 Dec 2006 19:04:14
From: William J Chambers
Subject: sit n go evaluation


I play primarily $10 and less SNGs on FullTilt and Pokerstars, and would
appreciate any feedback offered. I have recorded my results for 300 games
and have the following stats. They are all NLHE,occasional MTT

ITM 40% ROI 29%

Any opinions on moving up in stakes? My bankroll is money won (if I lose it
all, no biggie) and is currently about $150. Thanx in advance









 
Date: 15 Dec 2006 11:20:03
From:
Subject: Re: sit n go evaluation



William J Chambers wrote:
> I play primarily $10 and less SNGs on FullTilt and Pokerstars, and would
> appreciate any feedback offered. I have recorded my results for 300 games
> and have the following stats. They are all NLHE,occasional MTT
>
> ITM 40% ROI 29%
>
> Any opinions on moving up in stakes? My bankroll is money won (if I lose it
> all, no biggie) and is currently about $150. Thanx in advance

How many of those 300 games were played at the $10 level? Based on your
bankroll the 29% ROI doesn't make sense if you started with $10 and
kept winning since you'd have around $800 if that was the case. Please
scrub all non-$10 tourneys from your data and recalculate your ROI
using on those and repost. As it stands your bankroll can support the
$5 but not the $10 with only $150 using the 5% rule.



 
Date: 15 Dec 2006 11:40:11
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: sit n go evaluation


> I play primarily $10 and less SNGs on FullTilt and Pokerstars, and would
> appreciate any feedback offered. I have recorded my results for 300 games
> and have the following stats. They are all NLHE,occasional MTT
>
> ITM 40% ROI 29%
>
> Any opinions on moving up in stakes? My bankroll is money won (if I lose it
> all, no biggie) and is currently about $150. Thanx in advance

Stats are good, bankroll seems very low for the amount of games played,
unless you've cashed out a bunch.

As far as skill level goes, you won't see much of a change between $10's
and $20's, so it all comes down to bankroll. If you can replenish with no
problems, you can be much more relaxed with typical bankroll guidelines.

My suggestion would be to play with a 20 buyin per level bankroll, and
adjust (move down or up) based on overall comfort level. For now, with
$150, I'd play $10's until you're up to $400, then move up to $20's. If
you want to accelerate that, move up when you hit $300, but be prepared to
move back down if you hit a bad spot.

Morphy
http://donkeymanifesto.blogspot.com

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Date: 16 Dec 2006 12:39:47
From:
Subject: Re: sit n go evaluation


Just curious Patti,

Are you playing SNG's on Stars now? Just wondering where all the Party
SNG refugees ended up.



 
Date: 16 Dec 2006 20:12:26
From: Patti Beadles
Subject: Re: sit n go evaluation


For one-table SNGs, I'd want to have a bankroll of at least
25 buyins at the stakes I'm playing.

-Patti
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Patti Beadles, Oakland, CA


  
Date: 16 Dec 2006 15:45:36
From: A Man Beaten by Jacks
Subject: Re: sit n go evaluation


On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 20:12:26 +0000 (UTC), pattib@violet.rahul.net (Patti
Beadles) wrote:

>For one-table SNGs, I'd want to have a bankroll of at least
>25 buyins at the stakes I'm playing.

Is this any stakes you're playing, or do you base it on your
ROI? Having recently whiffed 10 SNGs in a row, and then
8 out of the next batch of 10 I played, I'm realizing it isn't
that unlikely. Rather, I already realized it, but now I'm
experiencing it.


   
Date: 16 Dec 2006 22:24:26
From: xyious
Subject: Re: sit n go evaluation


On Dec 16 2006 9:45 PM, A Man Beaten by Jacks wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 20:12:26 +0000 (UTC), pattib@violet.rahul.net (Patti
> Beadles) wrote:
>
> >For one-table SNGs, I'd want to have a bankroll of at least
> >25 buyins at the stakes I'm playing.
>
> Is this any stakes you're playing, or do you base it on your
> ROI? Having recently whiffed 10 SNGs in a row, and then
> 8 out of the next batch of 10 I played, I'm realizing it isn't
> that unlikely. Rather, I already realized it, but now I'm
> experiencing it.

i dropped about 70 buyins in november.... but that's why i was always
playing with 100 buyin bankroll in the first place.
the important question is if you can replenish your bankroll.... and since
i can't i rather be safe than sorry.


-Alexander Knopf
http://www.xyious.com/?links

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Date: 18 Dec 2006 02:17:10
From: Patti Beadles
Subject: Re: sit n go evaluation


In article <qd4f54xd5r.ln2@recgroups.com >,
xyious <a52dfe8@webnntp.invalid > wrote:

>i dropped about 70 buyins in november.... but that's why i was always
>playing with 100 buyin bankroll in the first place.

You did this in one-table 50-30-20 SNGs? What's your typical
win rate? That seems like a several-sigmas event for a winning
player.

-Patti
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Patti Beadles, Oakland, CA


   
Date: 16 Dec 2006 21:06:03
From: Patti Beadles
Subject: Re: sit n go evaluation


In article <ujm8o29offa3n3oodh3insb53nla70h7pi@4ax.com >,
A Man Beaten by Jacks <nobody@fool.foo > wrote:

>Is this any stakes you're playing, or do you base it on your
>ROI? Having recently whiffed 10 SNGs in a row, and then
>8 out of the next batch of 10 I played, I'm realizing it isn't
>that unlikely. Rather, I already realized it, but now I'm
>experiencing it.

It's based on your ROI and variance, as well as acceptable
risk of ruin, and is completely independent of the stakes
you're playing. OK, your ROI and variance probably vary by
stakes, but ignoring that fact...

I've had some fugly runs in the last couple of years. Sometimes
they're just due to the card falling badly, and sometimes they're
because a leak has developed.

-Patti
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Patti Beadles, Oakland, CA