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Date: 03 Dec 2006 13:49:41
From: pokerchimp
Subject: computer problems
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I just got my computer back from my computer guy on Tuesday. It was running
really slowly, and I knew there were problems. He said he got rid of a ton
of spyware and other nonsense. It was running so fast for a few days, it
was like new.
Well, now it is running slow again. I keep timing out at the poker table,
and it takes forever to go anywhere. Also, my mouse keeps getting stuck. I
am definitely infected with something.
I have Norton and am running a full scan right now. It's been runnning for
a while and hasn't picked anything up.
Is there some better software, hopefully free, with which to scan/remove
stuff so I don't have to spend another $65 at the computer guy.
Also, I really don't surf the web that much, but I noticed this happened
after I downloaded an upgrade from stars. I really don't know if it's
related because I wasn't really paying attention.
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Date: 03 Dec 2006 10:59:52
From: mccard
Subject: Re: computer problems
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I suggest "ad-aware" for spyware management.
Since you have Norton running already for viruses, the next major category
of "gunk" clogging up computer arteries is spyware.
They have a free version and it seems to do a pretty good job.
http://www.lavasoft.de/
look for the download for the free personal "SE" edition button.
I run it once a week, seems to work ok for me.
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Date: 03 Dec 2006 17:46:12
From: pokerchimp
Subject: Re: computer problems
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OK, I'm blind or tired or something, but I can't find the button to download
the free SE edition. Can you look on the page and tell me where it is
located?
"mccard" <mcsoft@cox.net > wrote in message
news:1mDch.2080$gj2.148@newsfe23.lga...
>I suggest "ad-aware" for spyware management.
>
> Since you have Norton running already for viruses, the next major category
> of "gunk" clogging up computer arteries is spyware.
>
> They have a free version and it seems to do a pretty good job.
>
> http://www.lavasoft.de/
>
> look for the download for the free personal "SE" edition button.
>
> I run it once a week, seems to work ok for me.
>
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Date: 03 Dec 18:54:38
From: Welshman
Subject: Re: computer problems
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Sounds like it may already be too late, happened to me 3 weeks ago & I was
running all the usual stuff. I reformatted in the end after weeks of trying to
clear it up. Exactly the same symptons you describe chimp.
On Dec 3 2006 9:46 AM, pokerchimp wrote:
> OK, I'm blind or tired or something, but I can't find the button to download
> the free SE edition. Can you look on the page and tell me where it is
> located?
>
> "mccard" wrote in message
> news:1mDch.2080$gj2.148@newsfe23.lga...
> >I suggest "ad-aware" for spyware management.
> >
> > Since you have Norton running already for viruses, the next major category
> > of "gunk" clogging up computer arteries is spyware.
> >
> > They have a free version and it seems to do a pretty good job.
> >
> > http://www.lavasoft.de/
> >
> > look for the download for the free personal "SE" edition button.
> >
> > I run it once a week, seems to work ok for me.
> >
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Date: 03 Dec 2006 10:20:43
From: johnny T
Subject: Re: computer problems
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pokerchimp wrote:
> OK, I'm blind or tired or something, but I can't find the button to download
> the free SE edition. Can you look on the page and tell me where it is
> located?
Front page, upper right hand corner, also 4th over on the download and
buy page.
IF IT REALLY ISN'T SHOWING UP!
It may already be too late. It is sometimes symptomatic of a machine
that has been taken over, that things like downloading anti-spy software
is blocked. In which case you need to either take it to your computer
guy, with a better deal that will keep you locked down, or you may
consider moving to mac, linux, or vista when it comes out (each of these
harder to take over, and vista may be your best bet, because it will run
most of the stuff you want, but the security model is different, and
much less prone to the kind of stuff you are running into).
I moved to the Mac, even though as a computer professional of many many
years, I just did not want to put in the effort to become a security
professional, so I went where the security issues were much much less.
This means that I play on Full-tilt, and that if I wanted to, I could
play elsewhere but only in Parallels, and I never browse anywhere except
on the Mac Side. But, really, nope. Not worth it. But I guess I am
missing those .02/.04 NL games where the rules are wrong...
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Date: 03 Dec 2006 08:39:32
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: computer problems
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> I have Norton and am running a full scan right now. It's been runnning for
> a while and hasn't picked anything up.
>
> Is there some better software, hopefully free, with which to scan/remove
> stuff so I don't have to spend another $65 at the computer guy.
Personally I'd do what the other poster said and format/reload. If you
aren't able to do that (or even if you do, to start fresh), I'd ditch the
Norton since there are better programs for free.
For antivirus, I'd either use AVG (www.grisoft.com) or Avast
(www.avast.com). Both have free versions for home use.
For spyware, I'd use Microsoft's Windows Defender (www.microsoft.com and
there should be a link somewhere on the main page or in popular downloads).
I would also visit www.spywareinfo.com and run their online scanner from
time to time.
If you don't have a router/firewall, go buy one. Linksys and Netgear are
both fine brands to get, and you shouldn't have to spend more than $50 or
so.
Morphy
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Date: 03 Dec 2006 20:02:42
From: Andrew.Sliversalts
Subject: Re: computer problems
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Costing the net hundreds if not thousands of dollars, XaQ Morphy said:
> For spyware, I'd use Microsoft's Windows Defender (www.microsoft.com and
> there should be a link somewhere on the main page or in popular downloads).
Nothing like as good as it was when it was still in beta and really the
Giant antispyware.
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Date: 03 Dec 20:00:12
From: reebz
Subject: Re: computer problems
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Regarding AVG anti-virus, you probably should manually update to the 7.5
version. I had 7.1 and if I "check for updates", it would tell me I had the
latest version or that there were no updates available. The 7.5 free version is
on the link supplied in an earlier post.
On Dec 3 2006 8:39 AM, XaQ Morphy wrote:
> > I have Norton and am running a full scan right now. It's been runnning for
> > a while and hasn't picked anything up.
> >
> > Is there some better software, hopefully free, with which to scan/remove
> > stuff so I don't have to spend another $65 at the computer guy.
>
> Personally I'd do what the other poster said and format/reload. If you
> aren't able to do that (or even if you do, to start fresh), I'd ditch the
> Norton since there are better programs for free.
>
> For antivirus, I'd either use AVG (http://www.grisoft.com) or Avast
> (http://www.avast.com). Both have free versions for home use.
>
> For spyware, I'd use Microsoft's Windows Defender (http://www.microsoft.com
> and
> there should be a link somewhere on the main page or in popular downloads).
>
> I would also visit http://www.spywareinfo.com and run their online scanner
> from
> time to time.
>
> If you don't have a router/firewall, go buy one. Linksys and Netgear are
> both fine brands to get, and you shouldn't have to spend more than $50 or
> so.
>
> Morphy
> http://donkeymanifesto.blogspot.com
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Date: 03 Dec 2006 12:27:05
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: computer problems
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> Regarding AVG anti-virus, you probably should manually update to the 7.5
> version. I had 7.1 and if I "check for updates", it would tell me I had the
> latest version or that there were no updates available. The 7.5 free
version is
> on the link supplied in an earlier post.
I ditched AVG a while ago. They decided that as long as a computer was on
a domain, it wasn't a "home computer", and all automatic updates stopped.
Avast replaced it for me.
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Date: 03 Dec 2006 07:45:36
From: xyious
Subject: Re: computer problems
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On Dec 3 2006 2:49 PM, pokerchimp wrote:
> I just got my computer back from my computer guy on Tuesday. It was running
> really slowly, and I knew there were problems. He said he got rid of a ton
> of spyware and other nonsense. It was running so fast for a few days, it
> was like new.
>
> Well, now it is running slow again. I keep timing out at the poker table,
> and it takes forever to go anywhere. Also, my mouse keeps getting stuck. I
> am definitely infected with something.
>
> I have Norton and am running a full scan right now. It's been runnning for
> a while and hasn't picked anything up.
>
> Is there some better software, hopefully free, with which to scan/remove
> stuff so I don't have to spend another $65 at the computer guy.
http://free.grisoft.com/doc/5390/lng/us/tpl/v5#avg-anti-virus-free
the above is a link to both a free virus scanner and a free spyware
remover.
i have the former set to scan my computer every day, so far i haven't had
any problems.
>
> Also, I really don't surf the web that much, but I noticed this happened
> after I downloaded an upgrade from stars. I really don't know if it's
> related because I wasn't really paying attention.
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Date: 03 Dec 17:08:53
From: Porsche_Dan
Subject: Re: computer problems
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Chimp.... I have been using Grisoft for years and have had no problems. And my
kids roam the net with impunity.
On Dec 3 2006 9:45 AM, xyious wrote:
> On Dec 3 2006 2:49 PM, pokerchimp wrote:
> > I just got my computer back from my computer guy on Tuesday. It was running
> >
> > really slowly, and I knew there were problems. He said he got rid of a ton
> > of spyware and other nonsense. It was running so fast for a few days, it
> > was like new.
> >
> > Well, now it is running slow again. I keep timing out at the poker table,
> > and it takes forever to go anywhere. Also, my mouse keeps getting stuck. I
> >
> > am definitely infected with something.
> >
> > I have Norton and am running a full scan right now. It's been runnning for
> > a while and hasn't picked anything up.
> >
> > Is there some better software, hopefully free, with which to scan/remove
> > stuff so I don't have to spend another $65 at the computer guy.
>
> http://free.grisoft.com/doc/5390/lng/us/tpl/v5#avg-anti-virus-free
> the above is a link to both a free virus scanner and a free spyware
> remover.
> i have the former set to scan my computer every day, so far i haven't had
> any problems.
>
> >
> > Also, I really don't surf the web that much, but I noticed this happened
> > after I downloaded an upgrade from stars. I really don't know if it's
> > related because I wasn't really paying attention.
>
>
> -Alexander Knopf
> http://www.xyious.com/?links
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Date: 03 Dec 2006 19:24:52
From: beerboy
Subject: Re: computer problems
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In news:1165165733$915627@recpoker.com,
Porsche_Dan <43080932@recpoker.com > typed:
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Date: 04 Dec 2006 04:46:13
From: Palooka
Subject: AARe: computer problems
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"beerboy" <please_no@email.com > wrote in message
news:8wFch.15623$YV4.7179@edtnps89...
> In news:1165165733$915627@recpoker.com,
> Porsche_Dan <43080932@recpoker.com> typed:
>
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Date: 04 Dec 2006 11:40:29
From: Ayatollah Yootwiessalready
Subject: Re: AARe: computer problems
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In article <pKNch.1849$_74.665@newsfe1-win.ntli.net >,
nobody@nowhere.com says...
>
> Chimp, you must run a firewall *as well as* anti virus. They perform
> different tasks, but both are essential. Turn off the Windows built in
> firewall though, and avoid running more than one firewall at the same time,
> since they will interfere with one another.
>
No, they won't. Not if they're just firewalls. All you'd get is
an extra couple of microseconds lag on your internet
connecitons. It's just an extra layer in the TCP/IP stack.
If they're doing extra stuff as well (like ZoneAlarm has a
little bit of antivirus/antispyware capability), they might.
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Date: 04 Dec 2006 01:35:18
From: ShuffletownKid
Subject: Re: computer problems
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"beerboy" <please_no@email.com > wrote in message
news:8wFch.15623$YV4.7179@edtnps89...
> In news:1165165733$915627@recpoker.com,
> Porsche_Dan <43080932@recpoker.com> typed:
>
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Date: 03 Dec 2006 07:37:34
From: Ian Stuart
Subject: Re: computer problems
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On Dec 3 2006 1:49 PM, pokerchimp wrote:
> I just got my computer back from my computer guy on Tuesday. It was running
> really slowly, and I knew there were problems. He said he got rid of a ton
> of spyware and other nonsense. It was running so fast for a few days, it
> was like new.
>
> Well, now it is running slow again. I keep timing out at the poker table,
> and it takes forever to go anywhere. Also, my mouse keeps getting stuck. I
> am definitely infected with something.
>
> I have Norton and am running a full scan right now. It's been runnning for
> a while and hasn't picked anything up.
>
> Is there some better software, hopefully free, with which to scan/remove
> stuff so I don't have to spend another $65 at the computer guy.
>
> Also, I really don't surf the web that much, but I noticed this happened
> after I downloaded an upgrade from stars. I really don't know if it's
> related because I wasn't really paying attention.
My advice to anyone who's PC is compromised to any significant extent is
to format the disk and reinstall the operating system (after backing up
your data of course). Having gained access to your system, there are
dozens of things a hacker can do to give themselves access that none of
the regular anti-spyware/anti-virus packages will detect. If you have not
yet clued yourself up to be able to reinstall your system quickly and
easily, it's time you learnt.
Had you not been advised that your PC was riddled with "a ton of spyware
and other nonsense" I would suggest you first check your ping speeds to
the game servers you play on. Real-time onlline games like poker require
very good network latency and disconnects/timeouts are a classic symptom
of poor latency.
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Date: 03 Dec 2006 08:18:05
From: Steve Kishner
Subject: Re: computer problems
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"Ian Stuart" <spamsucks@tiscali.co.uk > wrote in message
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Date: 03 Dec 2006 09:27:45
From: Ian Stuart
Subject: Re: computer problems
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On Dec 3 2006 4:18 PM, Steve Kishner wrote:
> "Ian Stuart" <spamsucks@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:ui7b44xghi.ln2@recgroups.com...
>
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Date: 03 Dec 2006 21:36:58
From: Cymbal Man Freq.
Subject: Re: computer problems
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I usually lose my cable signal at the top of the hour several times a day. It's
their problem and it takes a couple of minutes of just waiting and doing nothing
until the modem lights return back to normal so I can pick up where I left off.
Then there are the monthly untimed glitches where all of the power in the city
goes out for 10 seconds to 5 minutes at a time; can't play a hand without
getting spooked by that one.
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Date: 03 Dec 14:22:40
From: chan0011
Subject: Re: computer problems
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Mornin' Chimp.
All of these are downloadable (lol) whylst still in your PJ's darling:
WebRoot Spyware (worth the $30 per year; awesome customer service; great
program)
From ^^^^^^^ you can "upgrade" ($) with WebRoot Window Washer (set it to HIGH
BLEACH)
Also, make sure you keep your system defragged (control panel; system tools) at
least once a week; keep all your temporary internet folders EMPTY; go take off
as many programs (add/remove programs; control panel) as you can, which haven't
been used in months or say "rarely". However, be very careful of the warnings
which may come up on your screen indicating you may have a problem in OTHER
programs if you continue your deletion selection.
Have a great day and week. Merry Christmas.
mcp/lv,NV
On Dec 3 2006 5:49 AM, pokerchimp wrote:
> I just got my computer back from my computer guy on Tuesday. It was running
> really slowly, and I knew there were problems. He said he got rid of a ton
> of spyware and other nonsense. It was running so fast for a few days, it
> was like new.
>
> Well, now it is running slow again. I keep timing out at the poker table,
> and it takes forever to go anywhere. Also, my mouse keeps getting stuck. I
> am definitely infected with something.
>
> I have Norton and am running a full scan right now. It's been runnning for
> a while and hasn't picked anything up.
>
> Is there some better software, hopefully free, with which to scan/remove
> stuff so I don't have to spend another $65 at the computer guy.
>
> Also, I really don't surf the web that much, but I noticed this happened
> after I downloaded an upgrade from stars. I really don't know if it's
> related because I wasn't really paying attention.
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Date: 03 Dec 2006 20:01:11
From: Andrew.Sliversalts
Subject: Re: computer problems
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Costing the net hundreds if not thousands of dollars, pokerchimp said:
> I just got my computer back from my computer guy on Tuesday. It was running
> really slowly, and I knew there were problems. He said he got rid of a ton
> of spyware and other nonsense. It was running so fast for a few days, it
> was like new.
>
> Well, now it is running slow again. I keep timing out at the poker table,
> and it takes forever to go anywhere. Also, my mouse keeps getting stuck. I
> am definitely infected with something.
>
> I have Norton and am running a full scan right now. It's been runnning for
> a while and hasn't picked anything up.
>
> Is there some better software, hopefully free, with which to scan/remove
> stuff so I don't have to spend another $65 at the computer guy.
>
> Also, I really don't surf the web that much, but I noticed this happened
> after I downloaded an upgrade from stars. I really don't know if it's
> related because I wasn't really paying attention.
>
>
>
Norton sucks (non-corporate editions). Ditto McAfee. Replace with AVG or
AntiVir. Also get Lavasoft's Ad-Aware (dig through the website for the
free version) and SpyBot Search&Destroy.
Do your initial clean-up scans from Safe Mode (f8 during boot to get the
option). This might not be enough, so you might need a techy again: make
him do it free as he left you with a setup that got whacked again.
Proper passwords on all accounts on the machine, including the
Administrator one that's only visible in Safe Mode: that's at least 8
chars, mixed upper&lower case, digits, and specials.
At least the Windows firewall, but preferably a real one, either
Zonealarm OR get a router to put between you and the internet.
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Date: 03 Dec 2006 11:36:40
From: FellKnight
Subject: Re: computer problems
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On Dec 3 2006 6:49 AM, pokerchimp wrote:
> I just got my computer back from my computer guy on Tuesday. It was running
> really slowly, and I knew there were problems. He said he got rid of a ton
> of spyware and other nonsense. It was running so fast for a few days, it
> was like new.
>
> Well, now it is running slow again. I keep timing out at the poker table,
> and it takes forever to go anywhere. Also, my mouse keeps getting stuck. I
> am definitely infected with something.
>
> I have Norton and am running a full scan right now. It's been runnning for
> a while and hasn't picked anything up.
>
> Is there some better software, hopefully free, with which to scan/remove
> stuff so I don't have to spend another $65 at the computer guy.
>
> Also, I really don't surf the web that much, but I noticed this happened
> after I downloaded an upgrade from stars. I really don't know if it's
> related because I wasn't really paying attention.
Defragment your hard drive ( the tech guy should have done this).
Also: http://www.safer-networking.org/en/mirrors/index.html
and http://www.download.com/3001-8022_4-10399602.html
Fell
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Date: 03 Dec 2006 11:21:21
From:
Subject: Re: computer problems
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pokerchimp wrote:
> stuff so I don't have to spend another $65 at the computer guy.
Is that $65 / hour? How much does he charge?
Cpl.
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Date: 03 Dec 2006 11:41:01
From: pokerchimp
Subject: Re: computer problems
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No, $65 is his minimum charge. He is the best in town though, has more
work than he can handle. Actually, he'll probably do it for me for free.
But I think I cleared up the problem. I followed Chan's advice and
uninstalled everything I don't use and then defragged. Then I did all the
things Morphy told me to do, so I scanned and destryed and deleted. It
seems ok now, nut I will play some poker to test it.
Thanks for all your suggestions.
On Dec 3 2006 2:21 PM, fargomovie wrote:
> pokerchimp wrote:
>
> > stuff so I don't have to spend another $65 at the computer guy.
>
>
> Is that $65 / hour? How much does he charge?
>
> Cpl.
thumbers on stars, pokerchimp1 on absolute
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Date: 04 Dec 2006 13:10:39
From: thepixelfreak
Subject: Re: computer problems
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On 2006-12-03 05:49:41 -0800, "pokerchimp" <mixthing@se.rr.com > said:
> I just got my computer back from my computer guy on Tuesday. It was
> running really slowly, and I knew there were problems. He said he got
> rid of a ton of spyware and other nonsense. It was running so fast for
> a few days, it was like new.
>
> Well, now it is running slow again. I keep timing out at the poker
> table, and it takes forever to go anywhere. Also, my mouse keeps
> getting stuck. I am definitely infected with something.
Get a MAC
thepixelfreak
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