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Date: 06 Dec 2006 06:34:12
From: Old Wolf
Subject: am i overplaying aces (stud8 bahh)
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Did I overplay this, or did the other two just call down
with utter garbage and both get lucky?
PokerStars Game #7323020774: 7 Card Stud Hi/Lo Limit ($0.50/$1.00) -
2006/12/06 - 09:02:20 (ET)
Table 'Medea V' 8-max
Seat 1: fstcav ($20.30 in chips)
Seat 2: Old Wolf NZ ($16.75 in chips)
Seat 3: moose654 ($52.05 in chips)
Seat 4: Spainard90 ($19.40 in chips)
Seat 5: horsewhiskey ($20 in chips)
Seat 6: zulus63 ($61.95 in chips)
Seat 7: corvette92c ($36.45 in chips)
Seat 8: weelc ($12.10 in chips)
fstcav: posts the ante $0.05
Old Wolf NZ: posts the ante $0.05
moose654: posts the ante $0.05
Spainard90: posts the ante $0.05
horsewhiskey: posts the ante $0.05
zulus63: posts the ante $0.05
corvette92c: posts the ante $0.05
weelc: posts the ante $0.05
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to fstcav [6h]
Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Ad Ac 6d]
Dealt to moose654 [6c]
Dealt to Spainard90 [Ks]
Dealt to horsewhiskey [8s]
Dealt to zulus63 [5h]
Dealt to corvette92c [Td]
Dealt to weelc [3s]
weelc: brings-in low $0.25
fstcav: folds
Old Wolf NZ: raises $0.25 to $0.50
moose654: folds
Spainard90: folds
horsewhiskey: calls $0.50
zulus63: calls $0.50
corvette92c: folds
weelc: folds
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Ad Ac 6d] [7c]
Dealt to horsewhiskey [8s] [9s]
Dealt to zulus63 [5h] [3c]
horsewhiskey: checks
zulus63: checks
Old Wolf NZ: bets $0.50
horsewhiskey: calls $0.50
zulus63: calls $0.50
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Ad Ac 6d 7c] [9h]
Dealt to horsewhiskey [8s 9s] [2d]
Dealt to zulus63 [5h 3c] [Kd]
zulus63: checks
Old Wolf NZ: bets $1
horsewhiskey: calls $1
corvette92c leaves the table
zulus63: calls $1
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Ad Ac 6d 7c 9h] [4h]
Dealt to horsewhiskey [8s 9s 2d] [7d]
Dealt to zulus63 [5h 3c Kd] [7h]
zulus63: checks
Old Wolf NZ: bets $1
Ares24 joins the table at seat #7
horsewhiskey: raises $1 to $2
zulus63: calls $2
Old Wolf NZ: calls $1
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Ad Ac 6d 7c 9h 4h] [4d]
zulus63: bets $1
Old Wolf NZ: calls $1
horsewhiskey: calls $1
*** SHOW DOWN ***
zulus63: shows [Ah 5s 5h 3c Kd 7h 4s] (HI: a pair of Fives; LO:
7,5,4,3,A)
Old Wolf NZ: shows [Ad Ac 6d 7c 9h 4h 4d] (HI: two pair, Aces and
Fours)
horsewhiskey: shows [6s 5c 8s 9s 2d 7d 2s] (HI: a straight, Five to
Nine; LO: 8,7,6,5,2)
horsewhiskey collected $7.60 from pot
zulus63 collected $7.55 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $15.65
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Date: 06 Dec 2006 06:40:26
From: Old Wolf
Subject: Re: am i overplaying aces (stud8 bahh)
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Sorry everyone, this post is just a whine. (The
previous HH wasn't). Have to get it off my chest tho.
It's just one of those days. My tables are full of poor
players. I have a read on them and know the right
strategies to beat them. But all day, I get crappy
cards. Or I get a good start then it's brick brick
brick. Or they hit their gutshot or improve their
2 rag pair to a boat on the river. In my stud8 game
it's been a full 2 hours since my last scoop (4 splits
in that time), and it's not for lack of trying!
During current Stud H/L session you were dealt 193 hands and:
- saw fourth street 48 times (24%)
- saw fifth street 29 times (15%)
- saw sixth street 23 times (11%)
- reached showdown 19 times (9%)
Pots won at showdown - 13 of 19 (68%)
Pots won without showdown - 4
(-$20 for this session of 50c/1)
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Date: 06 Dec 2006 06:40:18
From: Old Wolf
Subject: Re: am i overplaying aces (stud8 bahh)
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Sorry everyone, this post is just a whine. (The
previous HH wasn't). Have to get it off my chest tho.
It's just one of those days. My tables are full of poor
players. I have a read on them and know the right
strategies to beat them. But all day, I get crappy
cards. Or I get a good start then it's brick brick
brick. Or they hit their gutshot or improve their
2 rag pair to a boat on the river. In my stud8 game
it's been a full 2 hours since my last scoop (4 splits
in that time), and it's not for lack of trying!
During current Stud H/L session you were dealt 193 hands and:
- saw fourth street 48 times (24%)
- saw fifth street 29 times (15%)
- saw sixth street 23 times (11%)
- reached showdown 19 times (9%)
Pots won at showdown - 13 of 19 (68%)
Pots won without showdown - 4
(-$20 for this session of 50c/1)
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Date: 06 Dec 2006 16:45:41
From: Old Wolf
Subject: Re: am i overplaying aces (stud8 bahh)
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xyious wrote:
> On Dec 7 2006 1:04 AM, Old Wolf wrote:
> >
> > I have ordered some books on stud8 from amazon, it is
> > difficult to learn if you do not know whether your plays are correct
> > or not, and I can't keep on posting hands here ever day :)
>
> hope you got the ray zee one, helped me a lot.
Yes I got the combo of Zee, and sklansky's 7CSFAP.
I decided to throw in a box set of Phil Gordon's green, blue
and black books while I was there ... they won't arrive until
after christmas tho :X
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Date: 06 Dec 2006 16:04:38
From: Old Wolf
Subject: Re: am i overplaying aces (stud8 bahh)
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Omaholic wrote:
> On Dec 6 2006 6:34 AM, Old Wolf wrote:
> > Did I overplay this, or did the other two just call down
> > with utter garbage and both get lucky?
>
> I think you played it fine through 5th street. On 6th, I would check
> call, as both of your opponents caught low cards meaning at least one
> probably has made a low.
Ok, thanks for the comments (you & torx). Sorry about my rant
earlier. I have ordered some books on stud8 from amazon, it is
difficult to learn if you do not know whether your plays are correct
or not, and I can't keep on posting hands here ever day :)
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Date: 06 Dec 2006 16:24:32
From: xyious
Subject: Re: am i overplaying aces (stud8 bahh)
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On Dec 7 2006 1:04 AM, Old Wolf wrote:
> Omaholic wrote:
> > On Dec 6 2006 6:34 AM, Old Wolf wrote:
> > > Did I overplay this, or did the other two just call down
> > > with utter garbage and both get lucky?
> >
> > I think you played it fine through 5th street. On 6th, I would check
> > call, as both of your opponents caught low cards meaning at least one
> > probably has made a low.
>
> Ok, thanks for the comments (you & torx). Sorry about my rant
> earlier. I have ordered some books on stud8 from amazon, it is
> difficult to learn if you do not know whether your plays are correct
> or not, and I can't keep on posting hands here ever day :)
hope you got the ray zee one, helped me a lot.
-Alexander Knopf
http://www.xyious.com/?links
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Date: 06 Dec 2006 15:50:44
From: Omaholic
Subject: Re: am i overplaying aces (stud8 bahh)
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On Dec 6 2006 6:34 AM, Old Wolf wrote:
> Did I overplay this, or did the other two just call down
> with utter garbage and both get lucky?
>
> PokerStars Game #7323020774: 7 Card Stud Hi/Lo Limit ($0.50/$1.00) -
> 2006/12/06 - 09:02:20 (ET)
> Table 'Medea V' 8-max
> Seat 1: fstcav ($20.30 in chips)
> Seat 2: Old Wolf NZ ($16.75 in chips)
> Seat 3: moose654 ($52.05 in chips)
> Seat 4: Spainard90 ($19.40 in chips)
> Seat 5: horsewhiskey ($20 in chips)
> Seat 6: zulus63 ($61.95 in chips)
> Seat 7: corvette92c ($36.45 in chips)
> Seat 8: weelc ($12.10 in chips)
> fstcav: posts the ante $0.05
> Old Wolf NZ: posts the ante $0.05
> moose654: posts the ante $0.05
> Spainard90: posts the ante $0.05
> horsewhiskey: posts the ante $0.05
> zulus63: posts the ante $0.05
> corvette92c: posts the ante $0.05
> weelc: posts the ante $0.05
> *** 3rd STREET ***
> Dealt to fstcav [6h]
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Ad Ac 6d]
> Dealt to moose654 [6c]
> Dealt to Spainard90 [Ks]
> Dealt to horsewhiskey [8s]
> Dealt to zulus63 [5h]
> Dealt to corvette92c [Td]
> Dealt to weelc [3s]
> weelc: brings-in low $0.25
> fstcav: folds
> Old Wolf NZ: raises $0.25 to $0.50
> moose654: folds
> Spainard90: folds
> horsewhiskey: calls $0.50
> zulus63: calls $0.50
> corvette92c: folds
> weelc: folds
> *** 4th STREET ***
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Ad Ac 6d] [7c]
> Dealt to horsewhiskey [8s] [9s]
> Dealt to zulus63 [5h] [3c]
> horsewhiskey: checks
> zulus63: checks
> Old Wolf NZ: bets $0.50
> horsewhiskey: calls $0.50
> zulus63: calls $0.50
> *** 5th STREET ***
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Ad Ac 6d 7c] [9h]
> Dealt to horsewhiskey [8s 9s] [2d]
> Dealt to zulus63 [5h 3c] [Kd]
> zulus63: checks
> Old Wolf NZ: bets $1
> horsewhiskey: calls $1
> corvette92c leaves the table
> zulus63: calls $1
> *** 6th STREET ***
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Ad Ac 6d 7c 9h] [4h]
> Dealt to horsewhiskey [8s 9s 2d] [7d]
> Dealt to zulus63 [5h 3c Kd] [7h]
> zulus63: checks
> Old Wolf NZ: bets $1
> Ares24 joins the table at seat #7
> horsewhiskey: raises $1 to $2
> zulus63: calls $2
> Old Wolf NZ: calls $1
> *** RIVER ***
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Ad Ac 6d 7c 9h 4h] [4d]
> zulus63: bets $1
> Old Wolf NZ: calls $1
> horsewhiskey: calls $1
> *** SHOW DOWN ***
> zulus63: shows [Ah 5s 5h 3c Kd 7h 4s] (HI: a pair of Fives; LO:
> 7,5,4,3,A)
> Old Wolf NZ: shows [Ad Ac 6d 7c 9h 4h 4d] (HI: two pair, Aces and
> Fours)
> horsewhiskey: shows [6s 5c 8s 9s 2d 7d 2s] (HI: a straight, Five to
> Nine; LO: 8,7,6,5,2)
> horsewhiskey collected $7.60 from pot
> zulus63 collected $7.55 from pot
> *** SUMMARY ***
> Total pot $15.65
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Date: 06 Dec 2006 15:18:58
From: xyious
Subject: Re: am i overplaying aces (stud8 bahh)
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On Dec 6 2006 3:34 PM, Old Wolf wrote:
> Did I overplay this, or did the other two just call down
> with utter garbage and both get lucky?
i wouldn't bet 6th, but i'd call down.
> PokerStars Game #7323020774: 7 Card Stud Hi/Lo Limit ($0.50/$1.00) -
> 2006/12/06 - 09:02:20 (ET)
> Table 'Medea V' 8-max
> Seat 1: fstcav ($20.30 in chips)
> Seat 2: Old Wolf NZ ($16.75 in chips)
> Seat 3: moose654 ($52.05 in chips)
> Seat 4: Spainard90 ($19.40 in chips)
> Seat 5: horsewhiskey ($20 in chips)
> Seat 6: zulus63 ($61.95 in chips)
> Seat 7: corvette92c ($36.45 in chips)
> Seat 8: weelc ($12.10 in chips)
> fstcav: posts the ante $0.05
> Old Wolf NZ: posts the ante $0.05
> moose654: posts the ante $0.05
> Spainard90: posts the ante $0.05
> horsewhiskey: posts the ante $0.05
> zulus63: posts the ante $0.05
> corvette92c: posts the ante $0.05
> weelc: posts the ante $0.05
> *** 3rd STREET ***
> Dealt to fstcav [6h]
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Ad Ac 6d]
> Dealt to moose654 [6c]
> Dealt to Spainard90 [Ks]
> Dealt to horsewhiskey [8s]
> Dealt to zulus63 [5h]
> Dealt to corvette92c [Td]
> Dealt to weelc [3s]
> weelc: brings-in low $0.25
> fstcav: folds
> Old Wolf NZ: raises $0.25 to $0.50
> moose654: folds
> Spainard90: folds
> horsewhiskey: calls $0.50
> zulus63: calls $0.50
> corvette92c: folds
> weelc: folds
> *** 4th STREET ***
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Ad Ac 6d] [7c]
> Dealt to horsewhiskey [8s] [9s]
> Dealt to zulus63 [5h] [3c]
> horsewhiskey: checks
> zulus63: checks
> Old Wolf NZ: bets $0.50
> horsewhiskey: calls $0.50
> zulus63: calls $0.50
> *** 5th STREET ***
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Ad Ac 6d 7c] [9h]
> Dealt to horsewhiskey [8s 9s] [2d]
> Dealt to zulus63 [5h 3c] [Kd]
> zulus63: checks
> Old Wolf NZ: bets $1
> horsewhiskey: calls $1
> corvette92c leaves the table
> zulus63: calls $1
> *** 6th STREET ***
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Ad Ac 6d 7c 9h] [4h]
> Dealt to horsewhiskey [8s 9s 2d] [7d]
> Dealt to zulus63 [5h 3c Kd] [7h]
> zulus63: checks
> Old Wolf NZ: bets $1
> Ares24 joins the table at seat #7
> horsewhiskey: raises $1 to $2
> zulus63: calls $2
> Old Wolf NZ: calls $1
> *** RIVER ***
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Ad Ac 6d 7c 9h 4h] [4d]
> zulus63: bets $1
> Old Wolf NZ: calls $1
> horsewhiskey: calls $1
> *** SHOW DOWN ***
> zulus63: shows [Ah 5s 5h 3c Kd 7h 4s] (HI: a pair of Fives; LO:
> 7,5,4,3,A)
> Old Wolf NZ: shows [Ad Ac 6d 7c 9h 4h 4d] (HI: two pair, Aces and
> Fours)
> horsewhiskey: shows [6s 5c 8s 9s 2d 7d 2s] (HI: a straight, Five to
> Nine; LO: 8,7,6,5,2)
> horsewhiskey collected $7.60 from pot
> zulus63 collected $7.55 from pot
> *** SUMMARY ***
> Total pot $15.65
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