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Date: 02 Dec 2006 20:12:23
From: A Man Beaten by Jacks
Subject: Waaahmbulance crybaby bad beat post (BAHH)


So much for any pretense to Zen monk status. I completely
flipped out over this one. It was only 9:1, but it took a
couple seconds to sink in that I hadn't won it, since I don't
often lose to a "runner-runner boat suckout" like this.

This was literally 30 seconds after bubbling in a SNG because
a complete fucking moron called an all-in with QT (I had JJ)
and sucked out on me, so the one-two punch KO'ed my
equanimity.

Anyway, I suck at poker until I can take this and worse and
smile. I've tried reading and contemplating Zen of Poker,
but haven't achieved serenity.

FullTiltPoker Game #1342667828: $18,000 Guarantee (9126143), Table 35 - 30/60 -
No Limit Hold'em - 19:39:00 ET - 2006/12/02
Seat 1: heyseuss (3,735)
Seat 2: the flop canada (3,015)
Seat 3: KURVEKAT05 (7,220)
Seat 4: HowardRoark1 (3,545)
Seat 5: SallyOMalley50 (3,000)
Seat 6: samchiswick (2,120)
Seat 7: acessuited7 (1,905)
Seat 8: noUdidnt (8,760)
Seat 9: GoethIce (2,645)
GoethIce posts the small blind of 30
heyseuss posts the big blind of 60
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to GoethIce [3d 3h]
the flop canada calls 60
wilk99 (Observer): rhys.. sign up for the 15k
KURVEKAT05 folds
HowardRoark1 folds
SallyOMalley50 calls 60
samchiswick folds
acessuited7 raises to 200
noUdidnt folds
GoethIce calls 170
the flop canada: ok
the flop canada: usc interecepted
heyseuss folds
the flop canada: ainterceprted
the flop canada: paid 6.0 on odds
the flop canada calls 140
SallyOMalley50 calls 140
*** FLOP *** [2h 3c 7s]
GoethIce bets 860
the flop canada folds

[This player claimed afterward to have folded a 7, which must
have been 7c, so betting out was definitely the right move. It makes
the beat even more brutal, though.]

SallyOMalley50 has 15 seconds left to act
SallyOMalley50 folds
acessuited7 raises to 1,705, and is all in
GoethIce calls 845
acessuited7 shows [As Ad]
GoethIce shows [3d 3h]
*** TURN *** [2h 3c 7s] [7h]
*** RIVER *** [2h 3c 7s 7h] [7d]
acessuited7 shows a full house, Sevens full of Aces
GoethIce shows a full house, Sevens full of Threes
acessuited7 wins the pot (4,270) with a full house, Sevens full of Aces
GoethIce: OMG
noUdidnt: ouch
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4,270




 
Date: 03 Dec
From: Nick Wool
Subject: Re: Waaahmbulance crybaby bad beat post (BAHH)



Hey, cry baby, he had aces, of course he had to call...dont you know they cannot
lose, as was proved here? 

Anyway, you in the stars million tomorrow?  If so, any thoughts of a LL?

On Dec 3 2006 1:12 AM, A Man Beaten by Jacks wrote:

> So much for any pretense to Zen monk status. I completely
> flipped out over this one. It was only 9:1, but it took a
> couple seconds to sink in that I hadn't won it, since I don't
> often lose to a "runner-runner boat suckout" like this.
>
> This was literally 30 seconds after bubbling in a SNG because
> a complete fucking moron called an all-in with QT (I had JJ)
> and sucked out on me, so the one-two punch KO'ed my
> equanimity.
>
> Anyway, I suck at poker until I can take this and worse and
> smile. I've tried reading and contemplating Zen of Poker,
> but haven't achieved serenity.
>
> FullTiltPoker Game #1342667828: $18,000 Guarantee (9126143), Table 35 - 30/60
> -
> No Limit Hold'em - 19:39:00 ET - 2006/12/02
> Seat 1: heyseuss (3,735)
> Seat 2: the flop canada (3,015)
> Seat 3: KURVEKAT05 (7,220)
> Seat 4: HowardRoark1 (3,545)
> Seat 5: SallyOMalley50 (3,000)
> Seat 6: samchiswick (2,120)
> Seat 7: acessuited7 (1,905)
> Seat 8: noUdidnt (8,760)
> Seat 9: GoethIce (2,645)
> GoethIce posts the small blind of 30
> heyseuss posts the big blind of 60
> The button is in seat #8
> *** HOLE CARDS ***
> Dealt to GoethIce [3d 3h]
> the flop canada calls 60
> wilk99 (Observer): rhys.. sign up for the 15k
> KURVEKAT05 folds
> HowardRoark1 folds
> SallyOMalley50 calls 60
> samchiswick folds
> acessuited7 raises to 200
> noUdidnt folds
> GoethIce calls 170
> the flop canada: ok
> the flop canada: usc interecepted
> heyseuss folds
> the flop canada: ainterceprted
> the flop canada: paid 6.0 on odds
> the flop canada calls 140
> SallyOMalley50 calls 140
> *** FLOP *** [2h 3c 7s]
> GoethIce bets 860
> the flop canada folds
>
> [This player claimed afterward to have folded a 7, which must
> have been 7c, so betting out was definitely the right move. It makes
> the beat even more brutal, though.]
>
> SallyOMalley50 has 15 seconds left to act
> SallyOMalley50 folds
> acessuited7 raises to 1,705, and is all in
> GoethIce calls 845
> acessuited7 shows [As Ad]
> GoethIce shows [3d 3h]
> *** TURN *** [2h 3c 7s] [7h]
> *** RIVER *** [2h 3c 7s 7h] [7d]
> acessuited7 shows a full house, Sevens full of Aces
> GoethIce shows a full house, Sevens full of Threes
> acessuited7 wins the pot (4,270) with a full house, Sevens full of Aces
> GoethIce: OMG
> noUdidnt: ouch
> *** SUMMARY ***
> Total pot 4,270


  
Date: 03 Dec 2006 03:10:51
From: A Man Beaten by Jacks
Subject: Stars Million LL


On Sun, 03 Dec 06 6:39:53 GMT, Nick Wool <43079532@recpoker.com > wrote:

[From my crybaby BAHH post thread]

>Hey, cry baby, he had aces, of course he had to call...dont you know they cannot
>lose, as was proved here? 

>Anyway, you in the stars million tomorrow?  If so, any thoughts of a LL?

Sure. Same deal as usual, $20 from all to the winner.


   
Date: 03 Dec 17:32:35
From: Nick Wool
Subject: Re: Stars Million LL





On Dec 3 2006 8:10 AM, A Man Beaten by Jacks wrote:

> On Sun, 03 Dec 06 6:39:53 GMT, Nick Wool <43079532@recpoker.com> wrote:
>
> [From my crybaby BAHH post thread]
>
> >Hey, cry baby, he had aces, of course he had to call...dont you know they
> >cannot
> >lose, as was proved here? 
>
> >Anyway, you in the stars million tomorrow?  If so, any thoughts of a LL?
>
> Sure. Same deal as usual, $20 from all to the winner.

Great, anyone else in?

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Date: 02 Dec 2006 17:48:44
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: Waaahmbulance crybaby bad beat post (BAHH)


> Dealt to GoethIce [3d 3h]

It's a real hand! A wired pocket pair of matching 3's in the hole. Dig
your hole, cover it with branches and twigs and let the sucker fall in!

Morphy
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Date: 02 Dec 2006 21:01:14
From: A Man Beaten by Jacks
Subject: Re: Waaahmbulance crybaby bad beat post (BAHH)


On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 17:48:44 -0800, "XaQ Morphy" <a1c5905@webnntp.invalid >
wrote:

>> Dealt to GoethIce [3d 3h]

>It's a real hand! A wired pocket pair of matching 3's in the hole. Dig
>your hole, cover it with branches and twigs and let the sucker fall in!

Well, yes, what a fool of me for playing it. Real players know enough to
never play anything but aces.


 
Date: 03 Dec 2006 09:43:09
From: phlash74
Subject: Re: Waaahmbulance crybaby bad beat post (BAHH)




On Dec 2, 6:01 pm, A Man Beaten by Jacks <nob...@fool.foo > wrote:
> On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 17:48:44 -0800, "XaQ Morphy" <a1c5...@webnntp.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> >> Dealt to GoethIce [3d 3h]
> >It's a real hand! A wired pocket pair of matching 3's in the hole. Dig
> >your hole, cover it with branches and twigs and let the sucker fall in!Well, yes, what a fool of me for playing it. Real players know enough to
> never play anything but aces.


Hey, VVP comments favorably on your play and you miss the point
entirely.
Obviously you did nothing wrong in the hand, but your opponent really
didn't either. For all he knew, you had JJ or QQ and were pushing your
overpair. As far as the second hand goes, I need one point of
clarification. The HH says tier two Sit N Go, does that mean it's a
shootout or satellite? If so, your opponent's call (while still not a
good call) could make a bit more sense if he's trying to gamble to get
some chips. The stacks were all roughly equal, and no one had more
than 16-17 big blinds, so it's getting to the crapshoot stage anyways.
On the bubble of a regular sit n go, it's a horrible call.



  
Date: 03 Dec 2006 13:50:33
From: A Man Beaten by Jacks
Subject: Re: Waaahmbulance crybaby bad beat post (BAHH)


On 3 Dec 2006 09:43:09 -0800, "phlash74" <phlash74@msn.com > wrote:


>On Dec 2, 6:01 pm, A Man Beaten by Jacks <nob...@fool.foo> wrote:
>> On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 17:48:44 -0800, "XaQ Morphy" <a1c5...@webnntp.invalid>
>> wrote:

>> >> Dealt to GoethIce [3d 3h]
>> >It's a real hand! A wired pocket pair of matching 3's in the hole. Dig
>> >your hole, cover it with branches and twigs and let the sucker fall in!Well, yes, what a fool of me for playing it. Real players know enough to
>> never play anything but aces.

>Hey, VVP comments favorably on your play and you miss the point
>entirely.

If you just assume anything Morphy says is sarcastic, that usually
works. I don't see any reason to think he broke with his tradition
of biting sarcasm.

I can't see anything particularly deserving of sarcasm about calling
6.7% of my stack preflop to get all-in on the flop as a 9:1 favorite.
I wouldn't make the same call out of position with a small pair for
much more, but for what I had to call and who was in the pot, and
with a pretty good idea what he had (a big pair or AK) and what he'd do after
the flop (jam into my bet if it was the pair), I think it would have been
an error to fold. Once the set hits, it plays itself.

>Obviously you did nothing wrong in the hand, but your opponent really
>didn't either. For all he knew, you had JJ or QQ and were pushing your
>overpair.

No, he didn't. I was still a 9:1 favorite in the hand when it all went in,
though, but he didn't play it horribly.

>As far as the second hand goes, I need one point of
>clarification. The HH says tier two Sit N Go, does that mean it's a
>shootout or satellite? If so, your opponent's call (while still not a
>good call) could make a bit more sense if he's trying to gamble to get
>some chips. The stacks were all roughly equal, and no one had more
>than 16-17 big blinds, so it's getting to the crapshoot stage anyways.

>On the bubble of a regular sit n go, it's a horrible call.

It was even worse, because it paid three places almost exactly the
same. A $75 token to the first two and $66 to number three.
These are actually a pretty good value. But a better value were
the $26 18 seat SNGs that FTP did away with, another thing
I'm pissed off about.

Anyway, bubbling was a huge fuckup which is why I didn't expect a
completely moronic call like that with utter garbage. Many
bad calls "you want." In this one, it was a pure murder-suicide.
This one set me up to flip out over the one 30 seconds later.
I am trying to practice not giving a fuck when I get sucked out
on, and I think if I can manage to do that, it will have positive
effect on the rest of my life, i.e. flipping out about transient shit
that has no long term significance whatsoever. I don't want to
repress anger about things like this. I don't want to feel it at
all. Tougher than it sounds, and I've been a miserable failure
at it so far.


 
Date: 04 Dec 2006 09:05:21
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: Waaahmbulance crybaby bad beat post (BAHH)


"A Man Beaten by Jacks" <nobody@fool.foo > wrote in message
>
> Anyway, I suck at poker until I can take this and worse and
> smile.
>

You'd suck at anything if you can't take that and worse and smile. You're
going to be in a courtroom someday?


>I've tried reading and contemplating Zen of Poker,
> but haven't achieved serenity.
>


Fuck that shit. It'll just piss you off.

btw, quit cryin, mutherfucker.