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Date: 19 Dec 2006 00:16:42
From: Jack King
Subject: Venetian Poker Room closing?
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The rumor around Las Vegas today is that the Venetian poker room is
closing. Officially, the people at the desk say that a bunch of dealers
were laid off due to a lack of business, but they are not closing. I
hope that's the case because the Venetian poker room is arguably the
nicest in town.
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 10:41:15
From: Jack King
Subject: Re: Venetian Poker Room closing?
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Irish Mike wrote:
> The Bellagio is clearly the number one poker room in Las Vegas. That leaves
> Caesars, Mirage, Venetian and Wynn fighting for second place. Given all
> the other new and "re-opened" poker rooms all over town there was bound to
> be some shake out. If the Venetian closed it's poker room it would be sad,
> but not surprising.
>
> Irish Mike
>
> "Jack King" <ace_aceking@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1166516202.359098.293180@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > The rumor around Las Vegas today is that the Venetian poker room is
> > closing. Officially, the people at the desk say that a bunch of dealers
> > were laid off due to a lack of business, but they are not closing. I
> > hope that's the case because the Venetian poker room is arguably the
> > nicest in town.
> >
You're right. Bellagio has the most action in town by far. But it is
definitely not the nicest place to play.
Parking is a pain in the ass. The valet is a very long wait to get your
car and the self-parking can take 20 minutes and up to get in on busy
nights because every car has to open the trunk for security to look
inside. What genius suit made up that stupid rule? The poker room is
too small for the number of tables so you are constantly getting
jostled and bumped be people moving around. The tables are too small to
play 10 handed so you are cramped. Service? It takes an hour to get a
waitress to your table and nearly another hour for her to come back
with your drink. Most don't even say thank you for their tip as
though you owe them the money. Other employees also borderline on rude
and seem to have the attitude the players are lucky to get to play
there. The list system is antiquated pen paper not computerized like
the Venetian, Red Rock, Caesars', Wynn, etc.
The Venetian has a parking area reserved for poker players, larger
tables for more elbow room, 20 feet or more space between tables, more
comfortable chairs, $2 per hour comps, courteous employees, more
luxurious surroundings, a great location right inside the front door,
better looking cocktail servers, and is overall a nicer place to play.
If poker players were a little smarter they would have exited the
Bellagio for a nicer room a long time ago.
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 11:59:11
From: Bill T
Subject: Re: Venetian Poker Room closing?
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Jack King wrote:
<snip >
> Parking is a pain in the ass. The valet is a very long wait to get your
> car and the self-parking can take 20 minutes and up to get in on busy
> nights because every car has to open the trunk for security to look
> inside. What genius suit made up that stupid rule?
<snip >
Yeah, I've wondered about that. Why does the Bellagio and only the
Bellagio have security checks at the self-park? Are they more at risk
of terrorist actions than the Wynn or Venetian?
Not all cars get checked. There must be some profiling going on, but
the 4-5 times I have been driven there (by myself or with my
girlfriend), they've just waved me thru.
Bill T
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 06:40:53
From: alan
Subject: Re: Venetian Poker Room closing?
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I know some of the managers at the Venetian and the company has been
very disappointed about the poker room not catching on. I have never
played there so could someone tell me this: if it were closed down,
could it be outfitted with other table games or slots-- or--- is the
poker room "out of the way" and it would just be empty space??
Im going to guess that if the poker room is out of the way, that it
will remain a poker room, and there is no need to convert the area to
slot or table game space.
but, if the poker room is easily converted to regular casino floor
space, it might indeed be doomed.
poker, you must remember, is not a money maker for the casinos... the
rake barely covers expenses... slots and other highlimit table games
make more money for the house
Irish Mike wrote:
> The Bellagio is clearly the number one poker room in Las Vegas. That leaves
> Caesars, Mirage, Venetian and Wynn fighting for second place. Given all
> the other new and "re-opened" poker rooms all over town there was bound to
> be some shake out. If the Venetian closed it's poker room it would be sad,
> but not surprising.
>
> Irish Mike
>
> "Jack King" <ace_aceking@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1166516202.359098.293180@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > The rumor around Las Vegas today is that the Venetian poker room is
> > closing. Officially, the people at the desk say that a bunch of dealers
> > were laid off due to a lack of business, but they are not closing. I
> > hope that's the case because the Venetian poker room is arguably the
> > nicest in town.
> >
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 07:05:28
From: Howard Beale
Subject: Re: Venetian Poker Room closing?
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On Dec 19 2006 7:40 AM, alan wrote:
> I know some of the managers at the Venetian and the company has been
> very disappointed about the poker room not catching on. I have never
> played there so could someone tell me this: if it were closed down,
> could it be outfitted with other table games or slots-- or--- is the
> poker room "out of the way" and it would just be empty space??
>
> Im going to guess that if the poker room is out of the way, that it
> will remain a poker room, and there is no need to convert the area to
> slot or table game space.
>
> but, if the poker room is easily converted to regular casino floor
> space, it might indeed be doomed.
>
> poker, you must remember, is not a money maker for the casinos... the
> rake barely covers expenses... slots and other highlimit table games
> make more money for the house
The poker room is in a prime location. I'd close it if I were them. I
was talking to one of the poker room's managers at BARGE this year and he
said they were disappointed with the business they were doing (told me
they might hire props) and said something like: 'If we'd opened a 20
table poker room it'd be a big success. But, NO, we're the Venetian and
everything has to be first class.'
My guess: They close the room sooner or later.
Howard Beale
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 10:51:07
From: RazzO
Subject: Re: Venetian Poker Room closing?
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Do you have an Under/Over for me for a friendly $20?
On Dec 19 2006 7:05 AM, Howard Beale wrote:
> My guess: They close the room sooner or later.
>
RazzO
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 11:14:53
From: Howard Beale
Subject: Re: Venetian Poker Room closing?
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On Dec 19 2006 11:51 AM, RazzO wrote:
> Do you have an Under/Over for me for a friendly $20?
No. But I don't see why they keep it open. It's in a prime location and
they know how much slots would bring them. I don't know why they opened
the room in the first place other than that they are The Venetian and must
offer the 'best' of LV and if that meant having a poker room these days,
so be it. For what it was intended to be it's a failure. I'd close it.
To Jack King:
The Venetian is a far better facility but players go where they know the
games will be. If I were the Venetian (and didn't want to close the room)
I'd add some features to the room (put a bar right in it and have the
floor give drink coupons to seated players who could dash on over and get
their drinks and a sandwich/snack counter handled the same way) and hire
30 props. They've spent a lot of money already and I'd spend a little
more as a last shot.
HB
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Date: 19 Dec 22:44:55
From: O-PGManager
Subject: Re: Venetian Poker Room closing?
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> It's in a prime location and
> they know how much slots would bring them.
I never understand this. The Venetian and every other casino always has about
50% of their slot machines empty even during peak hours. Will another boat load
of machines really bring in more money?
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 16:20:39
From: Howard Beale
Subject: Re: Venetian Poker Room closing?
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On Dec 19 2006 3:44 PM, O-PGManager wrote:
> > It's in a prime location and
> > they know how much slots would bring them.
>
> I never understand this. The Venetian and every other casino always has
about
> 50% of their slot machines empty even during peak hours. Will another boat
load
> of machines really bring in more money?
There's a reason poker rooms were replaced by slots in the past. Slots
even replaced table games. If they could have ONLY slots they'd do it.
If the Commerce Casino could have slots they'd throw out all the poker
tables tonight and re-open w/ slots in the morning. Mohegan Sun (even
though scandal was part of the problem) replaced the poker room w/ slots.
So, yes, they make more with slots.
HB
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 20:57:37
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: Venetian Poker Room closing?
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I played at the Venetian when it opened it's first poker room. It was a
small room near the front, then they moved it to the back. I was talking
with one of the former poker dealers after the room moved to the back and he
told me he just worked his entire shift with out dealing a single hand. The
room closed a short time later.
The problem with the Venetian is that they made their move too late and
caught the ass end of the poker boom. No one is going to displace the
Bellagio as the number one poker room. The Mirage poker room has a pretty
loyal local following and the Wynn seems to have a pretty strong commitment
to poker as well. The future of Caesars poker room is questionable but I
think there might be some benefit to being located between the Mirage and
Bellagio. The Venetian would probably have been better off opening a small,
but nice, poker room and making a real effort to attract their in-house
customers.
Irish Mike
"Howard Beale" <a1695@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
news:daql54xpee.ln2@recgroups.com...
> On Dec 19 2006 11:51 AM, RazzO wrote:
>
>> Do you have an Under/Over for me for a friendly $20?
>
>
> No. But I don't see why they keep it open. It's in a prime location and
> they know how much slots would bring them. I don't know why they opened
> the room in the first place other than that they are The Venetian and must
> offer the 'best' of LV and if that meant having a poker room these days,
> so be it. For what it was intended to be it's a failure. I'd close it.
>
> To Jack King:
>
> The Venetian is a far better facility but players go where they know the
> games will be. If I were the Venetian (and didn't want to close the room)
> I'd add some features to the room (put a bar right in it and have the
> floor give drink coupons to seated players who could dash on over and get
> their drinks and a sandwich/snack counter handled the same way) and hire
> 30 props. They've spent a lot of money already and I'd spend a little
> more as a last shot.
>
>
> HB
>
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 12:54:12
From: Will in New Haven
Subject: Re: Mohegan
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Deadmoney Walking wrote:
> >
> > I know people who work at the Sun and they say that it would have been
> > a mistake to replace a decently-managed profitable poker room with the
> > nickel slots because they have mainly attracted people who would have
> > been at their other slot machines. On the other hand, they say that
> > their poker room was neither well-managed nor profitable, so it wasn't
> > an error. Even so, they are bringing back poker.
> >
>
> Although I am of little faith, I love hearing the tri-annual rumors
> about Mohegan reopening. Do you have a good source for this?
There are several online "news" sources that mention it. One is at:
http://www.pokerlistings.com/new-poker-room-on-horizon-for-mohegan-sun
Also, some people say that the Sun has mentioned poker in its TV adds
but I haven't seen that.
I have also followed the rumors for a number of years. Non
poker-playing acquaintances have sworn up and down at times that there
IS poker at the Sun but it always turns out to be Pai Gow or video
poker or somethingl like that. I have been told "there will be poker
again soon" and "we will never have another poker room; it was too much
trouble" within the same week by MS employees. Once recently they ran
an actual poker tournament with some kind of trip as the prize but then
the tables went back wherever they came from.
There are still people playing regularly at Foxwoods and moaning about
the loss of their beloved Mohegan Sun poker room. I never liked it that
much.
Will in New Haven
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 12:07:16
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: Venetian Poker Room closing?
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The Bellagio is clearly the number one poker room in Las Vegas. That leaves
Caesars, Mirage, Venetian and Wynn fighting for second place. Given all
the other new and "re-opened" poker rooms all over town there was bound to
be some shake out. If the Venetian closed it's poker room it would be sad,
but not surprising.
Irish Mike
"Jack King" <ace_aceking@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1166516202.359098.293180@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> The rumor around Las Vegas today is that the Venetian poker room is
> closing. Officially, the people at the desk say that a bunch of dealers
> were laid off due to a lack of business, but they are not closing. I
> hope that's the case because the Venetian poker room is arguably the
> nicest in town.
>
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Date: 19 Dec
From: Kincaid
Subject: Re: Venetian Poker Room closing?
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Nice room offering no more choice of games than any other place in town.
With the Bellagio, Caesar's, and the Mirage... who needs to cross the street?
On Dec 19 2006 12:16 AM, Jack King wrote:
> The rumor around Las Vegas today is that the Venetian poker room is
> closing. Officially, the people at the desk say that a bunch of dealers
> were laid off due to a lack of business, but they are not closing. I
> hope that's the case because the Venetian poker room is arguably the
> nicest in town.
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 03:45:20
From: Dave Dale
Subject: Re: Venetian Poker Room closing?
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On 19 Dec 2006 00:16:42 -0800, "Jack King" <ace_aceking@yahoo.com >
wrote:
>The rumor around Las Vegas today is that the Venetian poker room is
>closing. Officially, the people at the desk say that a bunch of dealers
>were laid off due to a lack of business, but they are not closing. I
>hope that's the case because the Venetian poker room is arguably the
>nicest in town.
I think Venetian poker room is just too far from the parking area. The
room is great and games are good for low limit and low no-limit games.
I like Wynn cause I can self park and walk very short distance to the
poker room. But, the table are cramped.
Bellagio staff always make me feel like I am bothering them or they
are doing me a favor to put my name on the list. They suck and I won't
play there anymore no matter how "good" the games may be.
Caesars is full of local pros and "rocks".
Mirage is probably all around best.
Dave Dale
www.clubwager.net
Online Poker Bonuses
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 04:59:29
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: Venetian Poker Room closing?
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Before the Bellagio opened the Mirage was "the center of the poker
universe". The staff was so damned arrogant I hated to play there. They
acted like they were doing you a favor just to let you in the place. When
the Bellagio opened it took the big games, the Mirage slipped to second
place and there were rumors the poker room would close. Suddenly the Mirage
staff's whole attitude changed. They created the "poker zone", got real
player friendly and every one was glad to provide assistance to the players.
Well now the Bellagio staff is just as stuck-up and snooty as the Mirage
used to be.
Irish Mike
"Dave Dale" <use_contact_form@mywebsite.net > wrote in message
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> On 19 Dec 2006 00:16:42 -0800, "Jack King" <ace_aceking@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>>The rumor around Las Vegas today is that the Venetian poker room is
>>closing. Officially, the people at the desk say that a bunch of dealers
>>were laid off due to a lack of business, but they are not closing. I
>>hope that's the case because the Venetian poker room is arguably the
>>nicest in town.
>
> I think Venetian poker room is just too far from the parking area. The
> room is great and games are good for low limit and low no-limit games.
>
> I like Wynn cause I can self park and walk very short distance to the
> poker room. But, the table are cramped.
>
> Bellagio staff always make me feel like I am bothering them or they
> are doing me a favor to put my name on the list. They suck and I won't
> play there anymore no matter how "good" the games may be.
>
> Caesars is full of local pros and "rocks".
>
> Mirage is probably all around best.
>
> Dave Dale
>
> www.clubwager.net
> Online Poker Bonuses
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 16:22:14
From: Bill Ricardi
Subject: Re: Venetian Poker Room closing?
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GrimJack808 wrote:
> Once the room is regularly full, the word will spread to the throngs
> that flock to Vegas for gambling other than poker and they will come as
> well. Especially if they can host a few tourneys that get onto live
> television, like the Bellagio did witht he WPT. The Bellagio took the
> opportunity to frame themselves as "The Place for Poker" and that
> reputation (true or not) that spread on television worldwide became
> firmly entrenched. It took Bellagio years to build up their clientle,
> and I know from experience you at least could get $25 a night rooms
> there. This was not widespread information, but it at least was (if
> not still is) available.
>
> It would be sad to see them take away this high quality room without at
> least a little more effort.
God, if I were still in the U.S. I would offer to do full time
promotion for that room. I've seen it... it's fantastic. I hope they
can save it.
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 15:39:12
From: GrimJack808
Subject: Re: Venetian Poker Room closing?
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I had heard that this place is a lot nicer than the Bellagio and that
the Big Game had moved there for a time. I'm not sure if this is true
or not. Its interesting to hear that it had not caught on.
It seems that everyone likes the room. What they need to do before
they close it is spend some time and effort promoting their poker room
a little more than they have to date.
Try giving away $25 a night rooms to poker players midweek and $50 a
room weekend, attach it to 8 hours of play and I think you would see
just about every seat in the joint fill up 24/7. Poker players are
notoriaously cheap about not wasting their bankroll on 'other'
services.
Once the room is regularly full, the word will spread to the throngs
that flock to Vegas for gambling other than poker and they will come as
well. Especially if they can host a few tourneys that get onto live
television, like the Bellagio did witht he WPT. The Bellagio took the
opportunity to frame themselves as "The Place for Poker" and that
reputation (true or not) that spread on television worldwide became
firmly entrenched. It took Bellagio years to build up their clientle,
and I know from experience you at least could get $25 a night rooms
there. This was not widespread information, but it at least was (if
not still is) available.
It would be sad to see them take away this high quality room without at
least a little more effort.
Kincaid wrote:
> Nice room offering no more choice of games than any other place in town.
>
> With the Bellagio, Caesar's, and the Mirage... who needs to cross the street?
>
>
>
> On Dec 19 2006 12:16 AM, Jack King wrote:
>
> > The rumor around Las Vegas today is that the Venetian poker room is
> > closing. Officially, the people at the desk say that a bunch of dealers
> > were laid off due to a lack of business, but they are not closing. I
> > hope that's the case because the Venetian poker room is arguably the
> > nicest in town.
>
>
>
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 15:25:02
From: Diana Ross Fan
Subject: Re: Venetian Poker Room closing?
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>
> The hotel and casino, and I pay little attention to anything about a
> casino outside the poker room, are magnificant.
>
> Will in New Haven
>
The [mis]use of Renassaince artwork offended my senses, but I guess
it's not too bad.
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 13:04:11
From: Will in New Haven
Subject: Re: Venetian Poker Room closing?
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Irish Mike wrote:
> I played at the Venetian when it opened it's first poker room. It was a
> small room near the front, then they moved it to the back. I was talking
> with one of the former poker dealers after the room moved to the back and he
> told me he just worked his entire shift with out dealing a single hand. The
> room closed a short time later.
>
> The problem with the Venetian is that they made their move too late and
> caught the ass end of the poker boom. No one is going to displace the
> Bellagio as the number one poker room. The Mirage poker room has a pretty
> loyal local following and the Wynn seems to have a pretty strong commitment
> to poker as well. The future of Caesars poker room is questionable but I
> think there might be some benefit to being located between the Mirage and
> Bellagio. The Venetian would probably have been better off opening a small,
> but nice, poker room and making a real effort to attract their in-house
> customers.
>
> Irish Mike
I have to agree. They made a big effort to get a major result when
there was no room for another major room in that time and place. It's a
shame because they produced a great room. Your last sentence describes
an option that they could have managed with ease but I guess that they
figured it wouldn't be worth bothering with.
The hotel and casino, and I pay little attention to anything about a
casino outside the poker room, are magnificant.
Will in New Haven
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> "Howard Beale" <a1695@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> news:daql54xpee.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > On Dec 19 2006 11:51 AM, RazzO wrote:
> >
> >> Do you have an Under/Over for me for a friendly $20?
> >
> >
> > No. But I don't see why they keep it open. It's in a prime location and
> > they know how much slots would bring them. I don't know why they opened
> > the room in the first place other than that they are The Venetian and must
> > offer the 'best' of LV and if that meant having a poker room these days,
> > so be it. For what it was intended to be it's a failure. I'd close it.
> >
> > To Jack King:
> >
> > The Venetian is a far better facility but players go where they know the
> > games will be. If I were the Venetian (and didn't want to close the room)
> > I'd add some features to the room (put a bar right in it and have the
> > floor give drink coupons to seated players who could dash on over and get
> > their drinks and a sandwich/snack counter handled the same way) and hire
> > 30 props. They've spent a lot of money already and I'd spend a little
> > more as a last shot.
> >
> >
> > HB
> >
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 11:55:07
From: Slim1Der
Subject: Re: Venetian Poker Room closing?
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> The Venetian has a parking area reserved for poker players, larger
> tables for more elbow room, 20 feet or more space between tables, more
> comfortable chairs, $2 per hour comps, courteous employees, more
> luxurious surroundings, a great location right inside the front door,
> better looking cocktail servers, and is overall a nicer place to play.
>
> If poker players were a little smarter they would have exited the
> Bellagio for a nicer room a long time ago.
I agree with this. When I was there during BARGE, I was quite amazed at
the size and decor of the place. I would much rather play there than
Bellagio.
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 15:48:25
From: Joe Long
Subject: Re: Venetian Poker Room closing?
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Slim1Der wrote:
>> The Venetian has a parking area reserved for poker players, larger
>> tables for more elbow room, 20 feet or more space between tables, more
>> comfortable chairs, $2 per hour comps, courteous employees, more
>> luxurious surroundings, a great location right inside the front door,
>> better looking cocktail servers, and is overall a nicer place to play.
>>
>> If poker players were a little smarter they would have exited the
>> Bellagio for a nicer room a long time ago.
>
> I agree with this. When I was there during BARGE, I was quite amazed at
> the size and decor of the place. I would much rather play there than
> Bellagio.
I played at the Venetian about a week after they opened, and I have not
set foot inside Bellagio since.
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Somewhere on the Range
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 11:25:44
From: Will in New Haven
Subject: Re: Venetian Poker Room closing?
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Jack King wrote:
> The rumor around Las Vegas today is that the Venetian poker room is
> closing. Officially, the people at the desk say that a bunch of dealers
> were laid off due to a lack of business, but they are not closing. I
> hope that's the case because the Venetian poker room is arguably the
> nicest in town.
Another poker room manager told me Sunday that the Venetian "will
probably close or they will find some way to shrink it and get some use
out of the floor space." His room is not in the same "weightclass" as
the Venetian's and he was not, I think, being spiteful or unpleasant
about it. He said that the Venetian splurged on floor-space, quality
equipment and decor and on the salaries and benefits for the staff. The
casino's upper management likes the fact that it makes their classy
casino even classier but they are impatient to make some money.
The Venetian is a great poker room but it has not caught on. I was
there friday night and saturday night and it was not crowded. The games
I played in were well-run and we, my brother and my nephew and I, had a
great time. It wasn't dead but it was definitely not doing really well.
"Not crowded" has its advantages for the players but it isn't good for
the poker room and on a saturday night it is very bad.
It was fun saying hi to all the Foxwoods veterans who work there and I
wish the place and the people well. I mentioned the sit-n-goes at
Foxwoods to one of the migrants and I think that would be a good idea
for them.
I will do a trip report when I wake up.
Will in New Haven
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Date: 19 Dec 20:39:25
From: Art Schlichter
Subject: Re: Venetian Poker Room closing?
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On Dec 19 2006 1:25 PM, Will in New Haven wrote:
> I was
> there friday night and saturday night and it was not crowded.
While the room isn't doing as well as hoped are they taking into account the
time of year? Isn't early December until end of December typically slow
everywhere? I was in Vegas 2 weeks ago and of course Bellagio was packed
Saturday night.
Just wondering if that is playing a small part (time of year). But I'm one of
those guys who just shows up 2 times/year for a weekend at a time.
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 07:54:19
From: alan
Subject: Re: Venetian Poker Room closing?
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The Venetian poker room has NEVER done well which has frustrated
management. It is not a "seasonal" problem.
Irish Mike wrote:
> Before the Bellagio opened the Mirage was "the center of the poker
> universe". The staff was so damned arrogant I hated to play there. They
> acted like they were doing you a favor just to let you in the place. When
> the Bellagio opened it took the big games, the Mirage slipped to second
> place and there were rumors the poker room would close. Suddenly the Mirage
> staff's whole attitude changed. They created the "poker zone", got real
> player friendly and every one was glad to provide assistance to the players.
> Well now the Bellagio staff is just as stuck-up and snooty as the Mirage
> used to be.
>
> Irish Mike
>
> "Dave Dale" <use_contact_form@mywebsite.net> wrote in message
> news:d1cho2pt54cc73tbh751k0mv850bc8f7ba@4ax.com...
> > On 19 Dec 2006 00:16:42 -0800, "Jack King" <ace_aceking@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>The rumor around Las Vegas today is that the Venetian poker room is
> >>closing. Officially, the people at the desk say that a bunch of dealers
> >>were laid off due to a lack of business, but they are not closing. I
> >>hope that's the case because the Venetian poker room is arguably the
> >>nicest in town.
> >
> > I think Venetian poker room is just too far from the parking area. The
> > room is great and games are good for low limit and low no-limit games.
> >
> > I like Wynn cause I can self park and walk very short distance to the
> > poker room. But, the table are cramped.
> >
> > Bellagio staff always make me feel like I am bothering them or they
> > are doing me a favor to put my name on the list. They suck and I won't
> > play there anymore no matter how "good" the games may be.
> >
> > Caesars is full of local pros and "rocks".
> >
> > Mirage is probably all around best.
> >
> > Dave Dale
> >
> > www.clubwager.net
> > Online Poker Bonuses
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 19:04:58
From: Travel
Subject: Re: Venetian Poker Room closing?
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As someone mentioned above, the parking situation is probably a part of
the problem with the low turn out at the Venetian poker room.
Regulars provide a certain base to the population of a poker room and
the Venetian has really bad -access from The Strip, and then, nightmare
self park/valet.-.
A lot of players probably feel, why bother. Wynn Las Vegas has the best
parking garage on The Strip, and the Bellagio has great access with
double bays crossing The Strip north bound, and good valet service.
Combine this with the lack of variety of -limits/ no limits- of the
Venetian
compared to the Bellagio and Wynn Las Vegas, and right there, are
reasons enough why the Venetian is slow.
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Travel
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 07:14:20
From: David Nicoson
Subject: Re: Venetian Poker Room closing?
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Jack King wrote:
> You're right. Bellagio has the most action in town by far. But it is
> definitely not the nicest place to play.
I agree. I don't think it would be that tough to displace Bellagio.
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 12:49:32
From: Deadmoney Walking
Subject: Re: Venetian Poker Room closing?
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alan wrote:
> The Venetian poker room has NEVER done well which has frustrated
> management. It is not a "seasonal" problem.
But how could something managed by Veterans of Foxwoods fail??
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