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Date: 18 Dec 2006 17:23:18
From: Kai
Subject: The Right Tournament Play


In tournament play, is it correct to make calls for all your chips
while you're on a draw if pot odds are right?

Say you get 4-1 on a flush or straight draw. Do you call with all your
chips, or wait for a better spot? It does seem counter-intuitive to me
for one to make that call given that you're a 3-1 dog, but I suppose
mathematically it's positive EV so calling is the right play. Any
thoughts on this one?





 
Date: 18 Dec 2006 22:20:28
From: johnny T
Subject: Re: The Right Tournament Play


Kai wrote:
> In tournament play, is it correct to make calls for all your chips
> while you're on a draw if pot odds are right?

It depends. It depends on tournament speed, position, stack size, m,
time value of tournament, and other things...

Sometimes I will be looking for such an opportunity and hope they come,
and sometimes, I will avoid it like the plague.

I hope also that my opponent has all sorts of "set" rules. Because I
can more easier adapt to him, than he to me.


  
Date: 19 Dec 2006 01:39:58
From: ben carr
Subject: Re: The Right Tournament Play


It is usually wrong to risk all of your chips. It is even more wrong to
do it when you know you are behind. There are many reasons to do so, but
unless one of those reasons arise its best to wait until you KNOW you
are way ahead to risk it all.



 
Date: 19 Dec 2006 15:46:59
From: GrimJack808
Subject: Re: The Right Tournament Play


Unless you are super short stacked, you probably want to wait until you
have a made hand in order to call this bet.

This is especially true if you are not drawing to the nuts. If you
don't have the nut flush or straight draw, you may be getting correct
pot odds to make your flush, but may be drawing dead against another
player who has a better flush or straight draw.

Now flip the conditions and you have a straight or flush draw and you
are chipped upo significantly. You may want to take the opportunity to
try and push someone else out with this type of play.

In the final analysis, avoid putting all your chips in the pot in a
tourney without having a made hand. Make someone else take the risk of
not sucking out against you, rather than forcing yourself to have to
suck out against them.

Patience. Its just as important in tourneys as it is in ring games.

Good Luck!
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Kai wrote:
> In tournament play, is it correct to make calls for all your chips
> while you're on a draw if pot odds are right?
>
> Say you get 4-1 on a flush or straight draw. Do you call with all your
> chips, or wait for a better spot? It does seem counter-intuitive to me
> for one to make that call given that you're a 3-1 dog, but I suppose
> mathematically it's positive EV so calling is the right play. Any
> thoughts on this one?