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Date: 30 Nov
From: Stu Ungar Fan
Subject: The Real World Poker Champion
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Obviously, it's not Jamie Gold. In fact, none of the WSOP Main Event winners
from 1998 onward was the real world champion. Some of them played okay but
definitely not the best of the best of the best which is what a "World Champion"
should be.
Come to think about it, the people who won the WSOP Main Event from 1982 to 1986
were NOT the real world champions either. Neither were every WSOP ME winner from
1989 to 1996, although the '89 winner might vehemently disagree.
So having pointed out these facts, who do you think is the real world champion
at present. Who is the best of the best of the very best today?
Frankly, I can't decide on one person. However, I can give a short list:
Chip Reese
Phil Ivey
David Sklansky
Daniel Negreanu
Barry Greenstein
Todd Brunson
Ted Forrest
So, who in your opinion is the real World Champion of Poker?
http://stuungar.blogspot.com
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 07:22:27
From: beerboy
Subject: Re: The Real World Poker Champion
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In news:1164871009$913715@recpoker.com,
Stu Ungar Fan <43086535@recpoker.com > typed:
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 09:50:14
From: DaVoice
Subject: Re: The Real World Poker Champion
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"beerboy" <please_no@email.com > wrote in message
news:TEvbh.10194$dX4.5792@clgrps13...
> In news:1164871009$913715@recpoker.com,
> Stu Ungar Fan <43086535@recpoker.com> typed:
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 11:28:50
From: pltrgyst
Subject: Re: The Real World Poker Champion
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On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 07:22:27 GMT, "beerboy" <please_no@email.com > wrote:
>Hmmm... The World Series of Poker and a TV producer/whatever should jump all
>over the idea of having a "Tournament of Champions" with all former WSOP
>champions. Open to everyone who has won a main event. Hell, you could even have
>a Tournament Of Champions for every individual WSOP tournament category...
>
>This is copyrighted. If anyone one wamts to actually hold this tourney, all I
>want is a nice hotel and tickets to rail, and maybe a couple buy-ins to other
>tourneys...
Your posting has an automatic copyright, but copyright does not apply to the
concept of a TofC of poker (or any other concept or business process, for that
matter). That's old hat. It's been played for many years.
-- Larry
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 10:04:14
From: es330td@gmail.com
Subject: Re: The Real World Poker Champion
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>
> So, who in your opinion is the real World Champion of Poker?
>
In my opinion there isn't one.
There is no such thing as a "perfect" poker player any more than there
is such a thing as a perfect song, painting or sunset. One possible
definition of a perfect player would be someone who always acts
correctly according to the fundamental theorum of poker. That said, it
is possible to act outside the "correct" play based on stack size,
position and opponent personality. Since, by definition of the rules
of poker, the players in question cannot know what their opponents hold
every time there comes a point at which an observer must say that two
players are equal in skill and judgement and the deciding factor is the
random element of the cards. The top pros are all experts in managing
risk but at the end of the day, the guy putting on the bracelet had to
have Lady Luck favor him along the way.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 09:56:59
From: Kinnipak
Subject: Re: The Real World Poker Champion
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On Nov 30 2006 1:16 AM, Stu Ungar Fan wrote:
> Obviously, it's not Jamie Gold. In fact, none of the WSOP Main Event winners
> from 1998 onward was the real world champion. Some of them played okay but
> definitely not the best of the best of the best which is what a "World
Champion"
> should be.
>
> Come to think about it, the people who won the WSOP Main Event from 1982 to
1986
> were NOT the real world champions either. Neither were every WSOP ME winner
from
> 1989 to 1996, although the '89 winner might vehemently disagree.
>
> So having pointed out these facts, who do you think is the real world
champion
> at present. Who is the best of the best of the very best today?
>
> Frankly, I can't decide on one person. However, I can give a short list:
>
> Chip Reese
>
> Phil Ivey
>
> David Sklansky
>
> Daniel Negreanu
>
> Barry Greenstein
>
> Todd Brunson
>
> Ted Forrest
>
> So, who in your opinion is the real World Champion of Poker?
>
> http://stuungar.blogspot.com
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 09:28:16
From: David Nicoson
Subject: Re: The Real World Poker Champion
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Stu Ungar Fan wrote:
> Frankly, I can't decide on one person. However, I can give a short list:
>
> Chip Reese
>
> Phil Ivey
>
> David Sklansky
I'd be pretty shocked if even Sklansky would consider himself on the
short list.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 21:49:59
From: A Man Beaten by Jacks
Subject: Re: The Real World Poker Champion
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On 30 Nov 2006 09:28:16 -0800, "David Nicoson" <bigdavex@yahoo.com > wrote:
>Stu Ungar Fan wrote:
>> Frankly, I can't decide on one person. However, I can give a short list:
>>
>> Chip Reese
>>
>> Phil Ivey
>>
>> David Sklansky
>
>I'd be pretty shocked if even Sklansky would consider himself on the
>short list.
Ellix Powers.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 14:54:41
From: ChrisBrown
Subject: Re: The Real World Poker Champion
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On Nov 30 2006 11:28 AM, David Nicoson wrote:
> Stu Ungar Fan wrote:
> > Frankly, I can't decide on one person. However, I can give a short list:
> >
> > Chip Reese
> >
> > Phil Ivey
> >
> > David Sklansky
>
> I'd be pretty shocked if even Sklansky would consider himself on the
> short list.
With his ego it wouldn't shock me if Sklansky considered himself on the
short list of Best African American Female Poker Players.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 15:06:57
From: brewmaster
Subject: Re: The Real World Poker Champion
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On Nov 30 2006 2:54 PM, ChrisBrown wrote:
> On Nov 30 2006 11:28 AM, David Nicoson wrote:
>
> > Stu Ungar Fan wrote:
> > > Frankly, I can't decide on one person. However, I can give a short list:
> > >
> > > Chip Reese
> > >
> > > Phil Ivey
> > >
> > > David Sklansky
> >
> > I'd be pretty shocked if even Sklansky would consider himself on the
> > short list.
>
> With his ego it wouldn't shock me if Sklansky considered himself on the
> short list of Best African American Female Poker Players.
Well since that list contains exactly zero players, he probably is.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 09:21:20
From: pokerchimp
Subject: Re: The Real World Poker Champion
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If I had to be pinned down, I think you can narrow the list to the top 2,
possibly also including Danny and Todd, but definitely excluding
Sklansky/Forrest. However, I don't really think you can say best. As is
often the answer in poker, I think the best response is "it depends"
On Nov 30 2006 2:16 AM, Stu Ungar Fan wrote:
> Obviously, it's not Jamie Gold. In fact, none of the WSOP Main Event winners
> from 1998 onward was the real world champion. Some of them played okay but
> definitely not the best of the best of the best which is what a "World
Champion"
> should be.
>
> Come to think about it, the people who won the WSOP Main Event from 1982 to
1986
> were NOT the real world champions either. Neither were every WSOP ME winner
from
> 1989 to 1996, although the '89 winner might vehemently disagree.
>
> So having pointed out these facts, who do you think is the real world
champion
> at present. Who is the best of the best of the very best today?
>
> Frankly, I can't decide on one person. However, I can give a short list:
>
> Chip Reese
>
> Phil Ivey
>
> David Sklansky
>
> Daniel Negreanu
>
> Barry Greenstein
>
> Todd Brunson
>
> Ted Forrest
>
> So, who in your opinion is the real World Champion of Poker?
>
> http://stuungar.blogspot.com
thumbers on stars, pokerchimp1 on absolute
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Date: 30 Nov 22:34:33
From: Porsche_Dan
Subject: Re: The Real World Poker Champion
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How could you not mention Doyle? The man is a legend.
On Nov 30 2006 11:21 AM, pokerchimp wrote:
> If I had to be pinned down, I think you can narrow the list to the top 2,
> possibly also including Danny and Todd, but definitely excluding
> Sklansky/Forrest. However, I don't really think you can say best. As is
> often the answer in poker, I think the best response is "it depends"
>
> On Nov 30 2006 2:16 AM, Stu Ungar Fan wrote:
>
> > Obviously, it's not Jamie Gold. In fact, none of the WSOP Main Event winners
> > from 1998 onward was the real world champion. Some of them played okay but
> > definitely not the best of the best of the best which is what a "World
> Champion"
> > should be.
> >
> > Come to think about it, the people who won the WSOP Main Event from 1982 to
> 1986
> > were NOT the real world champions either. Neither were every WSOP ME winner
> from
> > 1989 to 1996, although the '89 winner might vehemently disagree.
> >
> > So having pointed out these facts, who do you think is the real world
> champion
> > at present. Who is the best of the best of the very best today?
> >
> > Frankly, I can't decide on one person. However, I can give a short list:
> >
> > Chip Reese
> >
> > Phil Ivey
> >
> > David Sklansky
> >
> > Daniel Negreanu
> >
> > Barry Greenstein
> >
> > Todd Brunson
> >
> > Ted Forrest
> >
> > So, who in your opinion is the real World Champion of Poker?
> >
> > http://stuungar.blogspot.com
>
>
> thumbers on stars, pokerchimp1 on absolute
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 09:15:53
From: OrangeSFO
Subject: Re: The Real World Poker Champion
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Poker players are not to be idolized, Fanboy.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 09:11:09
From: John_Brian_K
Subject: Re: The Real World Poker Champion
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Do they not already havesuch a tourny. I believe I have seen it on TV
where you have to have an invite to play and it is all the top players
in the world. I do not know who won, but you will never be able to
point to one person even if they were to win that tourney because it
could be a case of bad cards for some of the other players. You will
never be able to point to one person, but you can have favorites based
on play and whos hot at the time the subject is brought up.
Personally with EVERYTHING taken into account when it comes to tourney
play I say Harrington.
Just my take
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 08:40:18
From: brewmaster
Subject: Re: The Real World Poker Champion
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On Nov 29 2006 11:16 PM, Stu Ungar Fan wrote:
> Obviously, it's not Jamie Gold. In fact, none of the WSOP Main Event winners
> from 1998 onward was the real world champion. Some of them played okay but
> definitely not the best of the best of the best which is what a "World
Champion"
> should be.
>
> Come to think about it, the people who won the WSOP Main Event from 1982 to
1986
> were NOT the real world champions either. Neither were every WSOP ME winner
from
> 1989 to 1996, although the '89 winner might vehemently disagree.
>
> So having pointed out these facts, who do you think is the real world
champion
> at present. Who is the best of the best of the very best today?
>
> Frankly, I can't decide on one person. However, I can give a short list:
>
> Chip Reese
>
> Phil Ivey
>
> David Sklansky
>
> Daniel Negreanu
>
> Barry Greenstein
>
> Todd Brunson
>
> Ted Forrest
>
> So, who in your opinion is the real World Champion of Poker?
>
> http://stuungar.blogspot.com
Sklansky? LMAO
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Date: 30 Nov
From: AtticusCole
Subject: Re: The Real World Poker Champion
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On Nov 30 2006 2:16 AM, Stu Ungar Fan wrote:
> Obviously, it's not Jamie Gold. In fact, none of the WSOP Main Event winners
> from 1998 onward was the real world champion. Some of them played okay but
> definitely not the best of the best of the best which is what a "World
> Champion"
> should be.
>
> Come to think about it, the people who won the WSOP Main Event from 1982 to
> 1986
> were NOT the real world champions either. Neither were every WSOP ME winner
> from
> 1989 to 1996, although the '89 winner might vehemently disagree.
>
> So having pointed out these facts, who do you think is the real world champion
> at present. Who is the best of the best of the very best today?
>
> Frankly, I can't decide on one person. However, I can give a short list:
>
> Chip Reese
>
> Phil Ivey
>
> David Sklansky
>
> Daniel Negreanu
>
> Barry Greenstein
>
> Todd Brunson
>
> Ted Forrest
>
> So, who in your opinion is the real World Champion of Poker?
>
> http://stuungar.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Oh what a strange coincidence that you picked 1998, the year after your personal
God, Stu Ungar, won his last world championship. I know you love this man more
than life itself, but he was a loser. There's more important things in life
than winning the world series main event, the guy was a flat out piece of shit
(I know razzo is going to be all over my ass now). If things were your way,
Stu would ressurect from the grave once a year just to play in and win the World
series main event year after year. Just remember before you go and dig up Stu's
grave; sex with a dead body is illegal.
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Date: 30 Nov
From: Porsche_Dan
Subject: Re: The Real World Poker Champion
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Give me a break, Doyle Brunson.
On Nov 30 2006 1:16 AM, Stu Ungar Fan wrote:
> Obviously, it's not Jamie Gold. In fact, none of the WSOP Main Event winners
> from 1998 onward was the real world champion. Some of them played okay but
> definitely not the best of the best of the best which is what a "World
> Champion"
> should be.
>
> Come to think about it, the people who won the WSOP Main Event from 1982 to
> 1986
> were NOT the real world champions either. Neither were every WSOP ME winner
> from
> 1989 to 1996, although the '89 winner might vehemently disagree.
>
> So having pointed out these facts, who do you think is the real world champion
> at present. Who is the best of the best of the very best today?
>
> Frankly, I can't decide on one person. However, I can give a short list:
>
> Chip Reese
>
> Phil Ivey
>
> David Sklansky
>
> Daniel Negreanu
>
> Barry Greenstein
>
> Todd Brunson
>
> Ted Forrest
>
> So, who in your opinion is the real World Champion of Poker?
>
> http://stuungar.blogspot.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: 01 Dec
From: Stu Ungar Fan
Subject: Re: The Real World Poker Champion
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Doyle Brunson has been past his prime since Stuey totally owned him in 1980.
http://stuungar.blogspot.com
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 22:42:28
From: pokerchimp
Subject: Re: The Real World Poker Champion
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What planet are u on? Doyle just won another bracelet in 2005. He plays
in the biggest cash games in the world. He's got close to a million in
to0urney winnings in the last year. Part of being a champion is being able
to manage your money and your life. Stuey was a low life drug addict who
won some tourneys mostly because people dumped chips to him because they
had big bets on him as a big dog to win.
On Nov 30 2006 7:37 PM, Stu Ungar Fan wrote:
> Doyle Brunson has been past his prime since Stuey totally owned him in 1980.
> http://stuungar.blogspot.com
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Date: 01 Dec
From: Porsche_Dan
Subject: Re: The Real World Poker Champion
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Uh, Stuey is dead and Doyle has 10 bracelets. Any questions?
On Nov 30 2006 6:37 PM, Stu Ungar Fan wrote:
> Doyle Brunson has been past his prime since Stuey totally owned him in 1980.
> http://stuungar.blogspot.com
>
>
>
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 23:28:14
From: igotskillz com
Subject: Re: The Real World Poker Champion
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On Nov 30 2006 3:16 AM, Stu Ungar Fan wrote:
> Frankly, I can't decide on one person. However, I can give a short list:
>
> Chip Reese
yes
>
> Phil Ivey
yes
>
> David Sklansky
why ?
>
> Daniel Negreanu
hahahaha
>
> Barry Greenstein
maybe
>
> Todd Brunson
why ?
>
> Ted Forrest
maybe
>
Doyle Brunson ?
> So, who in your opinion is the real World Champion of Poker?
>
> http://stuungar.blogspot.com
Thank YOU
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 21:49:42
From: A Man Beaten by Jacks
Subject: Re: The Real World Poker Champion
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On Thu, 30 Nov 06 7:16:49 GMT, Stu Ungar Fan <43086535@recpoker.com > wrote:
Tiffany Williamson.
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 09:24:06
From: Dr Zen
Subject: Re: The Real World Poker Champion
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On Thu, 30 Nov 06 7:16:49 GMT, Stu Ungar Fan <43086535@recpoker.com >
wrote:
>Obviously, it's not Jamie Gold. In fact, none of the WSOP Main Event winners
>from 1998 onward was the real world champion. Some of them played okay but
>definitely not the best of the best of the best which is what a "World Champion"
>should be.
>
>Come to think about it, the people who won the WSOP Main Event from 1982 to 1986
>were NOT the real world champions either. Neither were every WSOP ME winner from
>1989 to 1996, although the '89 winner might vehemently disagree.
>
>So having pointed out these facts, who do you think is the real world champion
>at present. Who is the best of the best of the very best today?
>
James Bond.
--
Dr Zen
King of the wild pixels.
http://gollyg.blogspot.com
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 14:55:22
From: ChrisBrown
Subject: Re: The Real World Poker Champion
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On Nov 30 2006 1:16 AM, Stu Ungar Fan wrote:
> So having pointed out these facts, who do you think is the real world
champion
> at present. Who is the best of the best of the very best today?
Harrah's.
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