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Date: 11 Dec 2006 16:21:15
From: scotty
Subject: Starting To Play Internet POker


I recently started to play poker on the Internet. I figured that I
should start at the lowest level and see if I can win there. If I win
at 2/4 cent micro level I will move up to 5/10 etc. I have read two
books on poker: 52 Tips For Texas Hold Em and Small Stakes Hold Em. My
question is, "Am I approaching this the right way.
I should note that I do have card sense and have been a successful
handicapper on horse racing.





 
Date: 11 Dec 2006 18:03:23
From: scotty
Subject: Re: Starting To Play Internet POker


Do you spell asshole with a capital a?


John A. Fish wrote:
> scotty wrote:
> > I recently started to play poker on the Internet. I figured that I
> > should start at the lowest level and see if I can win there. If I win
> > at 2/4 cent micro level I will move up to 5/10 etc. I have read two
> > books on poker: 52 Tips For Texas Hold Em and Small Stakes Hold Em. My
> > question is, "Am I approaching this the right way.
> > I should note that I do have card sense and have been a successful
> > handicapper on horse racing.
> >
>
> Well, for it to be a question you need to have a question mark in there
> somewhere. Also since you have started to quote, you probably need to
> close the quote somewhere. Or maybe you accidentally posted too



  
Date: 11 Dec 2006 18:15:54
From: John A. Fish
Subject: Re: Starting To Play Internet POker


scotty wrote:
> Do you spell asshole with a capital a?
>
>
> John A. Fish wrote:
>> scotty wrote:
>>> I recently started to play poker on the Internet. I figured that I
>>> should start at the lowest level and see if I can win there. If I win
>>> at 2/4 cent micro level I will move up to 5/10 etc. I have read two
>>> books on poker: 52 Tips For Texas Hold Em and Small Stakes Hold Em. My
>>> question is, "Am I approaching this the right way.
>>> I should note that I do have card sense and have been a successful
>>> handicapper on horse racing.
>>>
>> Well, for it to be a question you need to have a question mark in there
>> somewhere. Also since you have started to quote, you probably need to
>> close the quote somewhere. Or maybe you accidentally posted too
>

I deserved that. I guess I was on a beer buzz when I wrote it.
Definitely out of character for me. Sorry.

John Fish


 
Date: 12 Dec 2006 01:49:48
From: Auggie
Subject: Re: Starting To Play Internet POker



"scotty" <bnbkern@adelphia.net > wrote in message
news:1165882875.099667.247640@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
>I recently started to play poker on the Internet. I figured that I
> should start at the lowest level and see if I can win there. If I win
> at 2/4 cent micro level I will move up to 5/10 etc. I have read two
> books on poker: 52 Tips For Texas Hold Em and Small Stakes Hold Em. My
> question is, "Am I approaching this the right way.
> I should note that I do have card sense and have been a successful
> handicapper on horse racing.

If you play a solid and tight game you shouldn't have any problem winning at
a 2c/4c level.

At that level there are usually two main problems that players encounter:

First is the "its only 2 cents..." problem. Players get in to bad habits
and start playing any two cards and chasing longshot draws because they look
at it like "Who cares? Its only 2 cents!" Yes, it is only 2 cents... but
you can quickly pick up some bad habits if you play with that mentality and
even if you are only losing 15-20 cents a hand it adds up when you only win
5 hands an hour and lose 75 an hour.

The other problem is the bad beats. At the micro limits you will playing
with bad players and players who have succumbed to the "its only 2 cents..."
problem (or the "its only a nickle... a dime... a quarter...") - you might
even have 4 or 5 of them in one pot. So you are going to have players
chasing runner-runner draws. Your pocket aces or kings will get cracked
from time to time by the stupidest of plays and you will see plenty of "its
a miracle card on the river".


To get over the "its only 2 cents..." problem you should treat your chips
not as a monetary value but as betting units. Would you make that same call
or play if they were worth $1 instead of 2 cents? If there are 12 betting
units in the pot and it costs you 4 to call to chase that inside straight
draw, is it a good play? Are you getting correct pot odds?

With the bad beats you have to roll with the punches and take them no matter
how bad his play and how lucky his draw out. Don't go on tilt when the pot
is raised, reraised and you reraise again with your AA and somebody calls
with 7/4 offsuit and nothing invested in the pot and the flop comes AK5 and
he keeps calling your bets... an 8 comes on the turn and then a 6 on the
river.

It sucks losing to a crappy suckout, but its not going to do your play any
good by going on tilt and playing like an idiot or calling the other player
names across the table.

And remember: you are there to win their money, not teach them how to play
poker. You don't want to go and tell them how bad they played, how lucky
their suckout was or how they hit a one out miracle card on the river. You
want them to continue to play just as lousy so that in the long run you can
take all their chips - you are best off just saying nothing.




 
Date: 11 Dec 2006 16:52:34
From: Marc M
Subject: Re: Starting To Play Internet POker



"scotty" <bnbkern@adelphia.net > wrote in message
news:1165882875.099667.247640@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
>I recently started to play poker on the Internet. I figured that I
> should start at the lowest level and see if I can win there. If I win
> at 2/4 cent micro level I will move up to 5/10 etc. I have read two
> books on poker: 52 Tips For Texas Hold Em and Small Stakes Hold Em. My
> question is, "Am I approaching this the right way.
> I should note that I do have card sense and have been a successful
> handicapper on horse racing.
>

Yes, it's smart to start at the lowest stakes, but it also makes sense
sometimes to play for money that actually means something to you. Otherwise
you'll end up making bad plays because "it's only 2 cents".





 
Date: 11 Dec 2006 16:32:51
From: John A. Fish
Subject: Re: Starting To Play Internet POker


scotty wrote:
> I recently started to play poker on the Internet. I figured that I
> should start at the lowest level and see if I can win there. If I win
> at 2/4 cent micro level I will move up to 5/10 etc. I have read two
> books on poker: 52 Tips For Texas Hold Em and Small Stakes Hold Em. My
> question is, "Am I approaching this the right way.
> I should note that I do have card sense and have been a successful
> handicapper on horse racing.
>

Well, for it to be a question you need to have a question mark in there
somewhere. Also since you have started to quote, you probably need to
close the quote somewhere. Or maybe you accidentally posted too


 
Date: 13 Dec 2006 09:06:21
From: Oolon
Subject: Re: Starting To Play Internet POker



The book that helped me more than any other when I was starting out was
Winning Low Limit Hold'em by Lee Jones. I highly recommend it.

Good luck!


pokerbase wrote:
> That approach sounds fine. I would suggest getting reading some more
> books though. Here's a pretty good list of the 100 best poker books.
> In particular I'd recommend the Theory of Poker, and then whatever
> books are near the top that apply to the games you play.
>
> http://top-books.org/poker
>
>
> scotty wrote:
> > I recently started to play poker on the Internet. I figured that I
> > should start at the lowest level and see if I can win there. If I win
> > at 2/4 cent micro level I will move up to 5/10 etc. I have read two
> > books on poker: 52 Tips For Texas Hold Em and Small Stakes Hold Em. My
> > question is, "Am I approaching this the right way.
> > I should note that I do have card sense and have been a successful
> > handicapper on horse racing.



 
Date: 13 Dec 2006 08:58:15
From: pokerbase
Subject: Re: Starting To Play Internet POker


That approach sounds fine. I would suggest getting reading some more
books though. Here's a pretty good list of the 100 best poker books.
In particular I'd recommend the Theory of Poker, and then whatever
books are near the top that apply to the games you play.

http://top-books.org/poker


scotty wrote:
> I recently started to play poker on the Internet. I figured that I
> should start at the lowest level and see if I can win there. If I win
> at 2/4 cent micro level I will move up to 5/10 etc. I have read two
> books on poker: 52 Tips For Texas Hold Em and Small Stakes Hold Em. My
> question is, "Am I approaching this the right way.
> I should note that I do have card sense and have been a successful
> handicapper on horse racing.



 
Date: 13 Dec 2006 17:15:28
From: scotty
Subject: Re: Starting To Play Internet POker


Thanks for the info. I am getting 3 poker books for Christmas. So far
I am breaking even on the 2/4 cent games. I am keeping records of
playing time etc. I find that when I play for over an hour I lose
concentration. Perhaps at 64 I am a little old to start playing.


pokerbase wrote:
> That approach sounds fine. I would suggest getting reading some more
> books though. Here's a pretty good list of the 100 best poker books.
> In particular I'd recommend the Theory of Poker, and then whatever
> books are near the top that apply to the games you play.
>
> http://top-books.org/poker
>
>
> scotty wrote:
> > I recently started to play poker on the Internet. I figured that I
> > should start at the lowest level and see if I can win there. If I win
> > at 2/4 cent micro level I will move up to 5/10 etc. I have read two
> > books on poker: 52 Tips For Texas Hold Em and Small Stakes Hold Em. My
> > question is, "Am I approaching this the right way.
> > I should note that I do have card sense and have been a successful
> > handicapper on horse racing.



  
Date: 13 Dec 2006 17:39:59
From: pokerchimp
Subject: Re: Starting To Play Internet POker


never too old to learn
On Dec 13 2006 8:15 PM, scotty wrote:

> Thanks for the info. I am getting 3 poker books for Christmas. So far
> I am breaking even on the 2/4 cent games. I am keeping records of
> playing time etc. I find that when I play for over an hour I lose
> concentration. Perhaps at 64 I am a little old to start playing.
>
>
> pokerbase wrote:
> > That approach sounds fine. I would suggest getting reading some more
> > books though. Here's a pretty good list of the 100 best poker books.
> > In particular I'd recommend the Theory of Poker, and then whatever
> > books are near the top that apply to the games you play.
> >
> > http://top-books.org/poker
> >
> >
> > scotty wrote:
> > > I recently started to play poker on the Internet. I figured that I
> > > should start at the lowest level and see if I can win there. If I win
> > > at 2/4 cent micro level I will move up to 5/10 etc. I have read two
> > > books on poker: 52 Tips For Texas Hold Em and Small Stakes Hold Em. My
> > > question is, "Am I approaching this the right way.
> > > I should note that I do have card sense and have been a successful
> > > handicapper on horse racing.


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Date: 13 Dec 2006 17:06:24
From: scotty
Subject: Re: Starting To Play Internet POker


I read it and liked it. It was a little over my head but things are
falling in place. Thanks!


Oolon wrote:
> The book that helped me more than any other when I was starting out was
> Winning Low Limit Hold'em by Lee Jones. I highly recommend it.
>
> Good luck!
>
>
> pokerbase wrote:
> > That approach sounds fine. I would suggest getting reading some more
> > books though. Here's a pretty good list of the 100 best poker books.
> > In particular I'd recommend the Theory of Poker, and then whatever
> > books are near the top that apply to the games you play.
> >
> > http://top-books.org/poker
> >
> >
> > scotty wrote:
> > > I recently started to play poker on the Internet. I figured that I
> > > should start at the lowest level and see if I can win there. If I win
> > > at 2/4 cent micro level I will move up to 5/10 etc. I have read two
> > > books on poker: 52 Tips For Texas Hold Em and Small Stakes Hold Em. My
> > > question is, "Am I approaching this the right way.
> > > I should note that I do have card sense and have been a successful
> > > handicapper on horse racing.