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Date: 15 Dec 2006 18:16:02
From: Old Wolf
Subject: Should I have tried a river bluff here? (bahh)
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I was very confident the other guy had king-rag. The river options
were to check and hope my rag beat his rag, or to try and bluff
him off it. He showed on the turn that he was willing to call 2/3
pot with it, so I would have had to bet at least $5 here, and didn't
have the guts :)
The presence of the all-in player complicated things too.
PokerStars Game #7459385102: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) -
2006/12/15 - 21:07:13 (ET)
Table 'Mensa II' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: cornbillio ($15.30 in chips)
Seat 2: ROG5656 ($12.45 in chips)
Seat 3: ifixshorts ($14.15 in chips)
Seat 4: Gamboolin ($18.60 in chips)
Seat 5: 4x4jen ($23.25 in chips)
Seat 6: masonkunze ($2.15 in chips)
Seat 7: nier p ($1.05 in chips)
Seat 8: vibr8s ($14.50 in chips)
Seat 9: Old Wolf NZ ($25 in chips)
ROG5656: posts small blind $0.10
ifixshorts: posts big blind $0.25
Old Wolf NZ: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Kd 6c]
Gamboolin: folds
4x4jen: calls $0.25
masonkunze: calls $0.25
nier p: calls $0.25
vibr8s: folds
Old Wolf NZ: checks
cornbillio: calls $0.25
ROG5656: calls $0.15
ifixshorts: checks
*** FLOP *** [8d 4s Kh]
ROG5656: checks
ifixshorts: checks
4x4jen: bets $0.50
masonkunze: calls $0.50
nier p: folds
Old Wolf NZ: calls $0.50
cornbillio: folds
ROG5656: folds
ifixshorts: folds
*** TURN *** [8d 4s Kh] [Jd]
4x4jen: checks
masonkunze: checks
Old Wolf NZ: bets $2
4x4jen: calls $2
masonkunze: calls $1.40 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [8d 4s Kh Jd] [5d]
4x4jen: checks
Old Wolf NZ: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
4x4jen: shows [7h Ks] (a pair of Kings)
Old Wolf NZ: mucks hand
4x4jen collected $1.15 from side pot
masonkunze: mucks hand
masonkunze leaves the table
4x4jen collected $7.10 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $8.65 Main pot $7.10. Side pot $1.15.
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Date: 16 Dec
From: GTech1
Subject: Re: Should I have tried a river bluff here? (bahh)
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It isn't much of an exageration to say that nobody ever folds top pair online.
On Dec 15 2006 9:16 PM, Old Wolf wrote:
> I was very confident the other guy had king-rag. The river options
> were to check and hope my rag beat his rag, or to try and bluff
> him off it. He showed on the turn that he was willing to call 2/3
> pot with it, so I would have had to bet at least $5 here, and didn't
> have the guts :)
>
> The presence of the all-in player complicated things too.
>
> PokerStars Game #7459385102: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) -
> 2006/12/15 - 21:07:13 (ET)
> Table 'Mensa II' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
> Seat 1: cornbillio ($15.30 in chips)
> Seat 2: ROG5656 ($12.45 in chips)
> Seat 3: ifixshorts ($14.15 in chips)
> Seat 4: Gamboolin ($18.60 in chips)
> Seat 5: 4x4jen ($23.25 in chips)
> Seat 6: masonkunze ($2.15 in chips)
> Seat 7: nier p ($1.05 in chips)
> Seat 8: vibr8s ($14.50 in chips)
> Seat 9: Old Wolf NZ ($25 in chips)
> ROG5656: posts small blind $0.10
> ifixshorts: posts big blind $0.25
> Old Wolf NZ: posts big blind $0.25
> *** HOLE CARDS ***
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Kd 6c]
> Gamboolin: folds
> 4x4jen: calls $0.25
> masonkunze: calls $0.25
> nier p: calls $0.25
> vibr8s: folds
> Old Wolf NZ: checks
> cornbillio: calls $0.25
> ROG5656: calls $0.15
> ifixshorts: checks
> *** FLOP *** [8d 4s Kh]
> ROG5656: checks
> ifixshorts: checks
> 4x4jen: bets $0.50
> masonkunze: calls $0.50
> nier p: folds
> Old Wolf NZ: calls $0.50
> cornbillio: folds
> ROG5656: folds
> ifixshorts: folds
> *** TURN *** [8d 4s Kh] [Jd]
> 4x4jen: checks
> masonkunze: checks
> Old Wolf NZ: bets $2
> 4x4jen: calls $2
> masonkunze: calls $1.40 and is all-in
> *** RIVER *** [8d 4s Kh Jd] [5d]
> 4x4jen: checks
> Old Wolf NZ: checks
> *** SHOW DOWN ***
> 4x4jen: shows [7h Ks] (a pair of Kings)
> Old Wolf NZ: mucks hand
> 4x4jen collected $1.15 from side pot
> masonkunze: mucks hand
> masonkunze leaves the table
> 4x4jen collected $7.10 from main pot
> *** SUMMARY ***
> Total pot $8.65 Main pot $7.10. Side pot $1.15.
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Date: 16 Dec 2006 11:07:38
From: FellKnight
Subject: Re: Should I have tried a river bluff here? (bahh)
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On Dec 15 2006 7:52 PM, GTech1 wrote:
> It isn't much of an exageration to say that nobody ever folds top pair
online.
Or live. :)
Fell
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Date: 15 Dec 2006 18:27:02
From: MeesterBeeg
Subject: Re: Should I have tried a river bluff here? (bahh)
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You weren't gonna get him off that K7. I think a river bluff would have
blown up in your face when he called. If he wasn't frightened of
probable top two pair (or a set of Js on the turn) he wasn't gonna quit
for anything.
Old Wolf wrote:
> I was very confident the other guy had king-rag. The river options
> were to check and hope my rag beat his rag, or to try and bluff
> him off it. He showed on the turn that he was willing to call 2/3
> pot with it, so I would have had to bet at least $5 here, and didn't
> have the guts :)
>
> The presence of the all-in player complicated things too.
>
> PokerStars Game #7459385102: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) -
> 2006/12/15 - 21:07:13 (ET)
> Table 'Mensa II' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
> Seat 1: cornbillio ($15.30 in chips)
> Seat 2: ROG5656 ($12.45 in chips)
> Seat 3: ifixshorts ($14.15 in chips)
> Seat 4: Gamboolin ($18.60 in chips)
> Seat 5: 4x4jen ($23.25 in chips)
> Seat 6: masonkunze ($2.15 in chips)
> Seat 7: nier p ($1.05 in chips)
> Seat 8: vibr8s ($14.50 in chips)
> Seat 9: Old Wolf NZ ($25 in chips)
> ROG5656: posts small blind $0.10
> ifixshorts: posts big blind $0.25
> Old Wolf NZ: posts big blind $0.25
> *** HOLE CARDS ***
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Kd 6c]
> Gamboolin: folds
> 4x4jen: calls $0.25
> masonkunze: calls $0.25
> nier p: calls $0.25
> vibr8s: folds
> Old Wolf NZ: checks
> cornbillio: calls $0.25
> ROG5656: calls $0.15
> ifixshorts: checks
> *** FLOP *** [8d 4s Kh]
> ROG5656: checks
> ifixshorts: checks
> 4x4jen: bets $0.50
> masonkunze: calls $0.50
> nier p: folds
> Old Wolf NZ: calls $0.50
> cornbillio: folds
> ROG5656: folds
> ifixshorts: folds
> *** TURN *** [8d 4s Kh] [Jd]
> 4x4jen: checks
> masonkunze: checks
> Old Wolf NZ: bets $2
> 4x4jen: calls $2
> masonkunze: calls $1.40 and is all-in
> *** RIVER *** [8d 4s Kh Jd] [5d]
> 4x4jen: checks
> Old Wolf NZ: checks
> *** SHOW DOWN ***
> 4x4jen: shows [7h Ks] (a pair of Kings)
> Old Wolf NZ: mucks hand
> 4x4jen collected $1.15 from side pot
> masonkunze: mucks hand
> masonkunze leaves the table
> 4x4jen collected $7.10 from main pot
> *** SUMMARY ***
> Total pot $8.65 Main pot $7.10. Side pot $1.15.
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