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Date: 09 Dec 2006 19:29:38
From: Old Wolf
Subject: Razz hand - great read by opponent, or donk play? (BAHH)
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I dont know much about razz, but I figured myself to be ahead on
4th with A743 vs xx48 (turned out to be 6848). He suddenly raised
when I hit an A on 6th. Did he read that the A paired me and so
his K-8-xxx might be best?
PokerStars Game #7375461844: Tournament #37163115, $1.00+$0.10 HORSE
(Razz Limit) - Level III (40/80) - 2006/12/09 - 22:16:35 (ET)
Table '37163115 7' 8-max
Seat 1: Dolemite42 (2440 in chips)
Seat 2: buzzbob (2621 in chips)
Seat 3: OICUR12 (308 in chips)
Seat 4: The Snowman (2202 in chips)
Seat 5: starwonder (2395 in chips)
Seat 6: KSW51 (1191 in chips)
Seat 7: Old Wolf NZ (1544 in chips)
Seat 8: dragondeath (1699 in chips)
buzzbob: posts the ante 8
OICUR12: posts the ante 8
The Snowman: posts the ante 8
starwonder: posts the ante 8
KSW51: posts the ante 8
Old Wolf NZ: posts the ante 8
dragondeath: posts the ante 8
Dolemite42: posts the ante 8
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to Dolemite42 [9h]
Dealt to buzzbob [4c]
Dealt to OICUR12 [Qc]
Dealt to The Snowman [3d]
Dealt to starwonder [6c]
Dealt to KSW51 [9s]
Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [As 7c 4d]
Dealt to dragondeath [9d]
KSW51 said, "nice"
OICUR12: brings-in low 12
The Snowman: folds
starwonder: folds
KSW51: folds
Old Wolf NZ: calls 12
dragondeath: folds
Dolemite42: calls 12
buzzbob: calls 12
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to Dolemite42 [9h] [Qd]
Dealt to buzzbob [4c] [8h]
Dealt to OICUR12 [Qc] [9c]
Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [As 7c 4d] [3c]
Old Wolf NZ: bets 40
Dolemite42: folds
buzzbob: calls 40
OICUR12: folds
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to buzzbob [4c 8h] [2d]
Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [As 7c 4d 3c] [Ks]
buzzbob: bets 80
Old Wolf NZ: calls 80
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to buzzbob [4c 8h 2d] [Kc]
Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [As 7c 4d 3c Ks] [Ac]
Old Wolf NZ: bets 80
buzzbob: raises 80 to 160
Old Wolf NZ: calls 80
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [As 7c 4d 3c Ks Ac] [Jh]
Old Wolf NZ: checks
buzzbob: bets 80
Old Wolf NZ: calls 80
*** SHOW DOWN ***
buzzbob: shows [6d 8c 4c 8h 2d Kc 5c] (Lo: 8,6,5,4,2)
Old Wolf NZ: mucks hand
buzzbob collected 832 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 832
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Date: 09 Dec 2006 21:46:42
From: RussGeorgiev@aol.com
Subject: Re: Razz hand - great read by opponent, or donk play? (BAHH)
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xyious wrote:
> On Dec 10 2006 5:26 AM, Old Wolf wrote:
> > Ok thanks for that. Next hand below (this is the last one, I promise).
> > I dont understand firstly how he could call on 3rd, and then how
> > he could call on 6th (he currently has K-Q-xxx and is drawing to
> > a Q-8 at the very best; 90% of the time he will be drawing dead here.
> > The only way he can win is if I have the worst possible down
> > cards (which I did happen to have).
>
> he's a donkey.
> horrible call on 3rd, 4th, 6th.
Absolutely correct.
The reason he made this play was a bluff attempt. He needed to
represent he had a made 8 so if you missd and he missed, he could bet
and win the pot. He should've folded right away, but was stubborn. The
A could have paired you, or not.
This is part of playing poker.
Russ Georgiev
www.pokermafia.com
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> >
> > Is this normal razz play?
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> > PokerStars Game #7376366884: Tournament #37163115, $1.00+$0.10 HORSE
> > (Razz Limit) - Level VIII (200/400) - 2006/12/09 - 23:18:40 (ET)
> > Table '37163115 7' 8-max
> > Seat 1: kingcobra57 (10705 in chips)
> > Seat 2: GTJ02 (287 in chips) is sitting out
> > Seat 3: jd322 (5367 in chips)
> > Seat 4: The Snowman (1461 in chips)
> > Seat 5: starwonder (4835 in chips)
> > Seat 6: iron horse2 (2174 in chips) is sitting out
> > Seat 7: Old Wolf NZ (1595 in chips)
> > Seat 8: donkeyboy06 (14727 in chips)
> > donkeyboy06: posts the ante 40
> > kingcobra57: posts the ante 40
> > GTJ02: posts the ante 40
> > jd322: posts the ante 40
> > The Snowman: posts the ante 40
> > starwonder: posts the ante 40
> > iron horse2: posts the ante 40
> > Old Wolf NZ: posts the ante 40
> > *** 3rd STREET ***
> > Dealt to kingcobra57 [Kd]
> > Dealt to GTJ02 [3c]
> > Dealt to jd322 [9h]
> > Dealt to The Snowman [4h]
> > Dealt to starwonder [8d]
> > Dealt to iron horse2 [3h]
> > Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js Kc 8s]
> > Dealt to donkeyboy06 [7c]
> > kingcobra57: brings-in low 60
> > GTJ02: folds
> > jd322: folds
> > The Snowman: folds
> > starwonder: folds
> > iron horse2: folds
> > Old Wolf NZ: raises 140 to 200
> > donkeyboy06: folds
> > kingcobra57: calls 140
> > *** 4th STREET ***
> > Dealt to kingcobra57 [Kd] [5c]
> > Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js Kc 8s] [9d]
> > Old Wolf NZ: bets 200
> > kingcobra57: calls 200
> > *** 5th STREET ***
> > Dealt to kingcobra57 [Kd 5c] [8c]
> > Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js Kc 8s 9d] [Jc]
> > Old Wolf NZ: checks
> > kingcobra57: checks
> > *** 6th STREET ***
> > Dealt to kingcobra57 [Kd 5c 8c] [Kh]
> > Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js Kc 8s 9d Jc] [Qs]
> > Old Wolf NZ: bets 400
> > kingcobra57: calls 400
> > *** RIVER ***
> > Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js Kc 8s 9d Jc Qs] [2d]
> > iron horse2 has returned
> > Old Wolf NZ: bets 400
> > kingcobra57: calls 400
> > *** SHOW DOWN ***
> > Old Wolf NZ: shows [Js Kc 8s 9d Jc Qs 2d] (Lo: Q,J,9,8,2)
> > kingcobra57: shows [Qd As Kd 5c 8c Kh Th] (Lo: Q,T,8,5,A)
> > kingcobra57 collected 2720 from pot
> > *** SUMMARY ***
> > Total pot 2720
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Date: 09 Dec 2006 20:26:13
From: Old Wolf
Subject: Re: Razz hand - great read by opponent, or donk play? (BAHH)
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pokerchimp wrote:
> I think he made a good read. Pretty likely if he didn't have an ace, you
> probably paired.
Ok thanks for that. Next hand below (this is the last one, I promise).
I dont understand firstly how he could call on 3rd, and then how
he could call on 6th (he currently has K-Q-xxx and is drawing to
a Q-8 at the very best; 90% of the time he will be drawing dead here.
The only way he can win is if I have the worst possible down
cards (which I did happen to have).
Is this normal razz play?
PokerStars Game #7376366884: Tournament #37163115, $1.00+$0.10 HORSE
(Razz Limit) - Level VIII (200/400) - 2006/12/09 - 23:18:40 (ET)
Table '37163115 7' 8-max
Seat 1: kingcobra57 (10705 in chips)
Seat 2: GTJ02 (287 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 3: jd322 (5367 in chips)
Seat 4: The Snowman (1461 in chips)
Seat 5: starwonder (4835 in chips)
Seat 6: iron horse2 (2174 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 7: Old Wolf NZ (1595 in chips)
Seat 8: donkeyboy06 (14727 in chips)
donkeyboy06: posts the ante 40
kingcobra57: posts the ante 40
GTJ02: posts the ante 40
jd322: posts the ante 40
The Snowman: posts the ante 40
starwonder: posts the ante 40
iron horse2: posts the ante 40
Old Wolf NZ: posts the ante 40
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to kingcobra57 [Kd]
Dealt to GTJ02 [3c]
Dealt to jd322 [9h]
Dealt to The Snowman [4h]
Dealt to starwonder [8d]
Dealt to iron horse2 [3h]
Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js Kc 8s]
Dealt to donkeyboy06 [7c]
kingcobra57: brings-in low 60
GTJ02: folds
jd322: folds
The Snowman: folds
starwonder: folds
iron horse2: folds
Old Wolf NZ: raises 140 to 200
donkeyboy06: folds
kingcobra57: calls 140
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to kingcobra57 [Kd] [5c]
Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js Kc 8s] [9d]
Old Wolf NZ: bets 200
kingcobra57: calls 200
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to kingcobra57 [Kd 5c] [8c]
Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js Kc 8s 9d] [Jc]
Old Wolf NZ: checks
kingcobra57: checks
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to kingcobra57 [Kd 5c 8c] [Kh]
Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js Kc 8s 9d Jc] [Qs]
Old Wolf NZ: bets 400
kingcobra57: calls 400
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js Kc 8s 9d Jc Qs] [2d]
iron horse2 has returned
Old Wolf NZ: bets 400
kingcobra57: calls 400
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Old Wolf NZ: shows [Js Kc 8s 9d Jc Qs 2d] (Lo: Q,J,9,8,2)
kingcobra57: shows [Qd As Kd 5c 8c Kh Th] (Lo: Q,T,8,5,A)
kingcobra57 collected 2720 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2720
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Date: 09 Dec 2006 22:18:50
From: pokerchimp
Subject: Re: Razz hand - great read by opponent, or donk play? (BAHH)
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BTW feel free to post as many Razz hands as you want. I wish Russ would
comment on some of these.
On Dec 9 2006 11:26 PM, Old Wolf wrote:
> pokerchimp wrote:
> > I think he made a good read. Pretty likely if he didn't have an ace, you
> > probably paired.
>
> Ok thanks for that. Next hand below (this is the last one, I promise).
> I dont understand firstly how he could call on 3rd, and then how
> he could call on 6th (he currently has K-Q-xxx and is drawing to
> a Q-8 at the very best; 90% of the time he will be drawing dead here.
> The only way he can win is if I have the worst possible down
> cards (which I did happen to have).
>
> Is this normal razz play?
>
> PokerStars Game #7376366884: Tournament #37163115, $1.00+$0.10 HORSE
> (Razz Limit) - Level VIII (200/400) - 2006/12/09 - 23:18:40 (ET)
> Table '37163115 7' 8-max
> Seat 1: kingcobra57 (10705 in chips)
> Seat 2: GTJ02 (287 in chips) is sitting out
> Seat 3: jd322 (5367 in chips)
> Seat 4: The Snowman (1461 in chips)
> Seat 5: starwonder (4835 in chips)
> Seat 6: iron horse2 (2174 in chips) is sitting out
> Seat 7: Old Wolf NZ (1595 in chips)
> Seat 8: donkeyboy06 (14727 in chips)
> donkeyboy06: posts the ante 40
> kingcobra57: posts the ante 40
> GTJ02: posts the ante 40
> jd322: posts the ante 40
> The Snowman: posts the ante 40
> starwonder: posts the ante 40
> iron horse2: posts the ante 40
> Old Wolf NZ: posts the ante 40
> *** 3rd STREET ***
> Dealt to kingcobra57 [Kd]
> Dealt to GTJ02 [3c]
> Dealt to jd322 [9h]
> Dealt to The Snowman [4h]
> Dealt to starwonder [8d]
> Dealt to iron horse2 [3h]
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js Kc 8s]
> Dealt to donkeyboy06 [7c]
> kingcobra57: brings-in low 60
> GTJ02: folds
> jd322: folds
> The Snowman: folds
> starwonder: folds
> iron horse2: folds
> Old Wolf NZ: raises 140 to 200
> donkeyboy06: folds
> kingcobra57: calls 140
> *** 4th STREET ***
> Dealt to kingcobra57 [Kd] [5c]
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js Kc 8s] [9d]
> Old Wolf NZ: bets 200
> kingcobra57: calls 200
> *** 5th STREET ***
> Dealt to kingcobra57 [Kd 5c] [8c]
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js Kc 8s 9d] [Jc]
> Old Wolf NZ: checks
> kingcobra57: checks
> *** 6th STREET ***
> Dealt to kingcobra57 [Kd 5c 8c] [Kh]
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js Kc 8s 9d Jc] [Qs]
> Old Wolf NZ: bets 400
> kingcobra57: calls 400
> *** RIVER ***
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js Kc 8s 9d Jc Qs] [2d]
> iron horse2 has returned
> Old Wolf NZ: bets 400
> kingcobra57: calls 400
> *** SHOW DOWN ***
> Old Wolf NZ: shows [Js Kc 8s 9d Jc Qs 2d] (Lo: Q,J,9,8,2)
> kingcobra57: shows [Qd As Kd 5c 8c Kh Th] (Lo: Q,T,8,5,A)
> kingcobra57 collected 2720 from pot
> *** SUMMARY ***
> Total pot 2720
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Date: 09 Dec 2006 22:18:03
From: pokerchimp
Subject: Re: Razz hand - great read by opponent, or donk play? (BAHH)
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This one I really don't understand. I could understand if he was drawing
to an 8, but it looks like he was drawing to a T, and he should have put u
on a 9, or he thought you had what you had (crap). or he's just a huge
fish. But his most likely excuse is his chip stack vs. yours, and he
possibly thinks you are bluffing because your stack is low. I'm not
really sure. It's not a hand I would have played. But in a $1 tourney,
you get a lot of idiots.
On Dec 9 2006 11:26 PM, Old Wolf wrote:
> pokerchimp wrote:
> > I think he made a good read. Pretty likely if he didn't have an ace, you
> > probably paired.
>
> Ok thanks for that. Next hand below (this is the last one, I promise).
> I dont understand firstly how he could call on 3rd, and then how
> he could call on 6th (he currently has K-Q-xxx and is drawing to
> a Q-8 at the very best; 90% of the time he will be drawing dead here.
> The only way he can win is if I have the worst possible down
> cards (which I did happen to have).
>
> Is this normal razz play?
>
> PokerStars Game #7376366884: Tournament #37163115, $1.00+$0.10 HORSE
> (Razz Limit) - Level VIII (200/400) - 2006/12/09 - 23:18:40 (ET)
> Table '37163115 7' 8-max
> Seat 1: kingcobra57 (10705 in chips)
> Seat 2: GTJ02 (287 in chips) is sitting out
> Seat 3: jd322 (5367 in chips)
> Seat 4: The Snowman (1461 in chips)
> Seat 5: starwonder (4835 in chips)
> Seat 6: iron horse2 (2174 in chips) is sitting out
> Seat 7: Old Wolf NZ (1595 in chips)
> Seat 8: donkeyboy06 (14727 in chips)
> donkeyboy06: posts the ante 40
> kingcobra57: posts the ante 40
> GTJ02: posts the ante 40
> jd322: posts the ante 40
> The Snowman: posts the ante 40
> starwonder: posts the ante 40
> iron horse2: posts the ante 40
> Old Wolf NZ: posts the ante 40
> *** 3rd STREET ***
> Dealt to kingcobra57 [Kd]
> Dealt to GTJ02 [3c]
> Dealt to jd322 [9h]
> Dealt to The Snowman [4h]
> Dealt to starwonder [8d]
> Dealt to iron horse2 [3h]
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js Kc 8s]
> Dealt to donkeyboy06 [7c]
> kingcobra57: brings-in low 60
> GTJ02: folds
> jd322: folds
> The Snowman: folds
> starwonder: folds
> iron horse2: folds
> Old Wolf NZ: raises 140 to 200
> donkeyboy06: folds
> kingcobra57: calls 140
> *** 4th STREET ***
> Dealt to kingcobra57 [Kd] [5c]
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js Kc 8s] [9d]
> Old Wolf NZ: bets 200
> kingcobra57: calls 200
> *** 5th STREET ***
> Dealt to kingcobra57 [Kd 5c] [8c]
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js Kc 8s 9d] [Jc]
> Old Wolf NZ: checks
> kingcobra57: checks
> *** 6th STREET ***
> Dealt to kingcobra57 [Kd 5c 8c] [Kh]
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js Kc 8s 9d Jc] [Qs]
> Old Wolf NZ: bets 400
> kingcobra57: calls 400
> *** RIVER ***
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js Kc 8s 9d Jc Qs] [2d]
> iron horse2 has returned
> Old Wolf NZ: bets 400
> kingcobra57: calls 400
> *** SHOW DOWN ***
> Old Wolf NZ: shows [Js Kc 8s 9d Jc Qs 2d] (Lo: Q,J,9,8,2)
> kingcobra57: shows [Qd As Kd 5c 8c Kh Th] (Lo: Q,T,8,5,A)
> kingcobra57 collected 2720 from pot
> *** SUMMARY ***
> Total pot 2720
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Date: 09 Dec 2006 21:38:05
From: xyious
Subject: Re: Razz hand - great read by opponent, or donk play? (BAHH)
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On Dec 10 2006 5:26 AM, Old Wolf wrote:
> Ok thanks for that. Next hand below (this is the last one, I promise).
> I dont understand firstly how he could call on 3rd, and then how
> he could call on 6th (he currently has K-Q-xxx and is drawing to
> a Q-8 at the very best; 90% of the time he will be drawing dead here.
> The only way he can win is if I have the worst possible down
> cards (which I did happen to have).
he's a donkey.
horrible call on 3rd, 4th, 6th.
>
> Is this normal razz play?
>
> PokerStars Game #7376366884: Tournament #37163115, $1.00+$0.10 HORSE
> (Razz Limit) - Level VIII (200/400) - 2006/12/09 - 23:18:40 (ET)
> Table '37163115 7' 8-max
> Seat 1: kingcobra57 (10705 in chips)
> Seat 2: GTJ02 (287 in chips) is sitting out
> Seat 3: jd322 (5367 in chips)
> Seat 4: The Snowman (1461 in chips)
> Seat 5: starwonder (4835 in chips)
> Seat 6: iron horse2 (2174 in chips) is sitting out
> Seat 7: Old Wolf NZ (1595 in chips)
> Seat 8: donkeyboy06 (14727 in chips)
> donkeyboy06: posts the ante 40
> kingcobra57: posts the ante 40
> GTJ02: posts the ante 40
> jd322: posts the ante 40
> The Snowman: posts the ante 40
> starwonder: posts the ante 40
> iron horse2: posts the ante 40
> Old Wolf NZ: posts the ante 40
> *** 3rd STREET ***
> Dealt to kingcobra57 [Kd]
> Dealt to GTJ02 [3c]
> Dealt to jd322 [9h]
> Dealt to The Snowman [4h]
> Dealt to starwonder [8d]
> Dealt to iron horse2 [3h]
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js Kc 8s]
> Dealt to donkeyboy06 [7c]
> kingcobra57: brings-in low 60
> GTJ02: folds
> jd322: folds
> The Snowman: folds
> starwonder: folds
> iron horse2: folds
> Old Wolf NZ: raises 140 to 200
> donkeyboy06: folds
> kingcobra57: calls 140
> *** 4th STREET ***
> Dealt to kingcobra57 [Kd] [5c]
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js Kc 8s] [9d]
> Old Wolf NZ: bets 200
> kingcobra57: calls 200
> *** 5th STREET ***
> Dealt to kingcobra57 [Kd 5c] [8c]
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js Kc 8s 9d] [Jc]
> Old Wolf NZ: checks
> kingcobra57: checks
> *** 6th STREET ***
> Dealt to kingcobra57 [Kd 5c 8c] [Kh]
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js Kc 8s 9d Jc] [Qs]
> Old Wolf NZ: bets 400
> kingcobra57: calls 400
> *** RIVER ***
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [Js Kc 8s 9d Jc Qs] [2d]
> iron horse2 has returned
> Old Wolf NZ: bets 400
> kingcobra57: calls 400
> *** SHOW DOWN ***
> Old Wolf NZ: shows [Js Kc 8s 9d Jc Qs 2d] (Lo: Q,J,9,8,2)
> kingcobra57: shows [Qd As Kd 5c 8c Kh Th] (Lo: Q,T,8,5,A)
> kingcobra57 collected 2720 from pot
> *** SUMMARY ***
> Total pot 2720
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Date: 09 Dec 2006 20:09:21
From: pokerchimp
Subject: Re: Razz hand - great read by opponent, or donk play? (BAHH)
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I think he made a good read. Pretty likely if he didn't have an ace, you
probably paired.
On Dec 9 2006 10:29 PM, Old Wolf wrote:
> I dont know much about razz, but I figured myself to be ahead on
> 4th with A743 vs xx48 (turned out to be 6848). He suddenly raised
> when I hit an A on 6th. Did he read that the A paired me and so
> his K-8-xxx might be best?
>
> PokerStars Game #7375461844: Tournament #37163115, $1.00+$0.10 HORSE
> (Razz Limit) - Level III (40/80) - 2006/12/09 - 22:16:35 (ET)
> Table '37163115 7' 8-max
> Seat 1: Dolemite42 (2440 in chips)
> Seat 2: buzzbob (2621 in chips)
> Seat 3: OICUR12 (308 in chips)
> Seat 4: The Snowman (2202 in chips)
> Seat 5: starwonder (2395 in chips)
> Seat 6: KSW51 (1191 in chips)
> Seat 7: Old Wolf NZ (1544 in chips)
> Seat 8: dragondeath (1699 in chips)
> buzzbob: posts the ante 8
> OICUR12: posts the ante 8
> The Snowman: posts the ante 8
> starwonder: posts the ante 8
> KSW51: posts the ante 8
> Old Wolf NZ: posts the ante 8
> dragondeath: posts the ante 8
> Dolemite42: posts the ante 8
> *** 3rd STREET ***
> Dealt to Dolemite42 [9h]
> Dealt to buzzbob [4c]
> Dealt to OICUR12 [Qc]
> Dealt to The Snowman [3d]
> Dealt to starwonder [6c]
> Dealt to KSW51 [9s]
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [As 7c 4d]
> Dealt to dragondeath [9d]
> KSW51 said, "nice"
> OICUR12: brings-in low 12
> The Snowman: folds
> starwonder: folds
> KSW51: folds
> Old Wolf NZ: calls 12
> dragondeath: folds
> Dolemite42: calls 12
> buzzbob: calls 12
> *** 4th STREET ***
> Dealt to Dolemite42 [9h] [Qd]
> Dealt to buzzbob [4c] [8h]
> Dealt to OICUR12 [Qc] [9c]
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [As 7c 4d] [3c]
> Old Wolf NZ: bets 40
> Dolemite42: folds
> buzzbob: calls 40
> OICUR12: folds
> *** 5th STREET ***
> Dealt to buzzbob [4c 8h] [2d]
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [As 7c 4d 3c] [Ks]
> buzzbob: bets 80
> Old Wolf NZ: calls 80
> *** 6th STREET ***
> Dealt to buzzbob [4c 8h 2d] [Kc]
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [As 7c 4d 3c Ks] [Ac]
> Old Wolf NZ: bets 80
> buzzbob: raises 80 to 160
> Old Wolf NZ: calls 80
> *** RIVER ***
> Dealt to Old Wolf NZ [As 7c 4d 3c Ks Ac] [Jh]
> Old Wolf NZ: checks
> buzzbob: bets 80
> Old Wolf NZ: calls 80
> *** SHOW DOWN ***
> buzzbob: shows [6d 8c 4c 8h 2d Kc 5c] (Lo: 8,6,5,4,2)
> Old Wolf NZ: mucks hand
> buzzbob collected 832 from pot
> *** SUMMARY ***
> Total pot 832
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Date: 10 Dec 2006 00:11:16
From: A Man Beaten by Jacks
Subject: Re: Razz hand - great read by opponent, or donk play? (BAHH)
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On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 20:09:21 -0800, "pokerchimp" <mixthing@se.rr.com > wrote:
>I think he made a good read. Pretty likely if he didn't have an ace, you
>probably paired.
I think the read is okay, but I don't like the raise. If the guy is right, his
crappy hand is only marginally ahead of another crappy hand, but if he's wrong,
his hand is a huge dog. OTOH I haven't done the math on that.
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