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Date: 28 Nov 2006 16:49:34
From: RedKnave
Subject: Question about 3.5 USB external IDE hard drive case

For the geeks in the crowd.......

Does anyone have any working familiarity with these things? I have an
internal IDE drive, currently sitting on my desk at work, that I need to
get a lot of data off of, and really don't want to go the trouble of
opening up and installing it in, and then pulling it out of, the three
pc's that I need to copy the data to. This is the first I've looked into
these devices and know nothing about them. Any opinions on specs, mfgr,
model, price, etc would be appreciated. Thanks.

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Date: 28 Nov 2006 19:04:46
From: RedKnave
Subject: Re: Question about 3.5 USB external IDE hard drive case

Thanks to everyone for the helpful replies. I guess the deal is, since
its a rather limited use thing, to choose low cost as the primary factor.
Seeing such a wide range of prices when I did my initial search, I wasn't
sure if there was anything else I should focus on in the selection
process. Sounds like there really isn't.

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Date: 29 Nov 2006 04:23:01
From: Tate and Lyle
Subject: Re: Question about 3.5 USB external IDE hard drive case

"RedKnave" <a1b6043@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
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> Thanks to everyone for the helpful replies. I guess the deal is, since
> its a rather limited use thing, to choose low cost as the primary factor.
> Seeing such a wide range of prices when I did my initial search, I wasn't
> sure if there was anything else I should focus on in the selection
> process. Sounds like there really isn't.

Personally I would just do what you dont want to do, ie install thedrive
as a slave in each computer, it would be little trouble for me as my
computers
usually have the side panels removed anyway, you only have to whip off two
connectors anyway (assuming they are not already free) and plug the two into
the new drive (you have to plug the USB connector in anyway) so thats only
one extra connector. You dont need to secure the drive just let it dangle or
rest on something.
Yes it a little more work, but probably a lot less work than finding the
right
drive case!! Also you dont have a drive case you don't want cluttering up
the place!!
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 06:23:36
From: RedKnave
Subject: Re: Question about 3.5 USB external IDE hard drive case

On Nov 28 2006 11:23 PM, Tate and Lyle wrote:

> "RedKnave" <a1b6043@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> news:ev9v34xgsh.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > Thanks to everyone for the helpful replies. I guess the deal is, since
> > its a rather limited use thing, to choose low cost as the primary factor.
> > Seeing such a wide range of prices when I did my initial search, I wasn't
> > sure if there was anything else I should focus on in the selection
> > process. Sounds like there really isn't.
>
> Personally I would just do what you dont want to do, ie install thedrive
> as a slave in each computer, it would be little trouble for me as my
> computers
> usually have the side panels removed anyway, you only have to whip off two
> connectors anyway (assuming they are not already free) and plug the two into
> the new drive (you have to plug the USB connector in anyway) so thats only
> one extra connector. You dont need to secure the drive just let it dangle or
> rest on something.
> Yes it a little more work, but probably a lot less work than finding the
> right
> drive case!! Also you dont have a drive case you don't want cluttering up
> the place!!
> >

But for one small reason, you're probably right. It didn't come through
very loudly in my earlier posts, but my new PC at work uses SATA HDDs. I
can buy a converter/connector, but they're about the same price as the
cheapest USB cases. Since I'm going to have to buy something anyway, I
might as well get the additional benefit of getting an external storage
device (in this case, approx 200GB) for $25 or less.

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Date: 28 Nov 2006 20:32:02
From: da pickle
Subject: Re: Question about 3.5 USB external IDE hard drive case

"RedKnave"

Is this the sort of thing you were looking for?
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=AP35UDBK&cat=HDD

Date: 28 Nov 2006 18:58:30
From: RedKnave
Subject: Re: Question about 3.5 USB external IDE hard drive case

On Nov 28 2006 9:32 PM, da pickle wrote:

> "RedKnave"
>
> Is this the sort of thing you were looking for?
> http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=AP35UDBK&cat=HDD

Definitely! Thanks. The price looks great, too.

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Date: 28 Nov 2006 19:47:33
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: Question about 3.5 USB external IDE hard drive case

> > http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=AP35UDBK&cat=HDD
>
> Definitely! Thanks. The price looks great, too.

Just wanted to say that I've been ordering stuff from that site for almost
10 years now. They are a good, reliable place to order from.

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Date: 29 Nov 2006 06:28:20
From: RedKnave
Subject: Re: Question about 3.5 USB external IDE hard drive case

On Nov 28 2006 10:47 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:

> > > http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=AP35UDBK&cat=HDD
> >
> > Definitely! Thanks. The price looks great, too.
>
> Just wanted to say that I've been ordering stuff from that site for almost
> 10 years now. They are a good, reliable place to order from.
>
> Morphy
> http://donkeymanifesto.blogspot.com

Thanks for that, Morphy. Surprisingly, this is the first I've heard of
them. It's always great to hear form someone who has used a site for a
long time.

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Date: 29 Nov 2006 02:26:31
From: Auggie
Subject: Re: Question about 3.5 USB external IDE hard drive case

"RedKnave" <a1b6043@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
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> For the geeks in the crowd.......
>
> Does anyone have any working familiarity with these things? I have an
> internal IDE drive, currently sitting on my desk at work, that I need to
> get a lot of data off of, and really don't want to go the trouble of
> opening up and installing it in, and then pulling it out of, the three
> pc's that I need to copy the data to. This is the first I've looked into
> these devices and know nothing about them. Any opinions on specs, mfgr,
> model, price, etc would be appreciated. Thanks.

Not much to really say.

Around here (Vancouver) you can get them at all the computer stores, they go
for about $30-35 CDN (about $26-32 USD).

They are all "one size fits all" as its basically just a drive bay, just
like the inside of your PC, with an IDE cable and power plug (again, just
like the inside of your PC) that you plug in to the back of the hard drive,
CDrom drive, DVD drive, floppy disk drive, etc. whatever you are plugging
in to it.

I am pretty sure there are no big name companies that make these... the hard
drive companies like Fujitsu, Western Digital, etc would rather you buy
their external hard drives for $300 rather than buy the same size drive, but
the internal model, for $80 and plug it in to a $30 hard drive enclosure.

If you have a DVD burner you could install the drive in one computer and
burn its info to DVD and share the data that way

If you have a DVD drive, but not a burner, you could also use a local data
recovery company and they should be able to copy the files to DVD for (my
local Staples offers that as a service in their print centre)

If the computers are networked you could install the drive in one computer
and share the hard drive over the network to the other computers until they
all have a copy of the files. If the computers aren't networked but
together you could buy a 4 port hub for $9-10 and the network cables for
another $4-5 and share that way.

If you decide to just go the "install and copy" method you should also
consider that you don't really need to "install" the drive. Just set the
jumper on the drive to SLAVE or to its autoselect setting and plug it in to
the end of the IDE cable and one of the spare power plugs. Boot computer
and make sure CMOS recognized the drive and copy files.

If you don't go and put the drive in a drive bay, screw it in, plug in the
little HDD activity light and put the top back on... you should be able to
shave quite a bit of work of the procedure.

Date: 29 Nov
From: Necron99
Subject: Re: Question about 3.5 USB external IDE hard drive case

It depends......:)

If this is a one off requirement to move data from 3 pc's and cosolidate it onto
one, then pluging your spare drive in as a 2nd drive on the 3 would be the
cheapest option and ultimately not alot more difficult than using a removable
drive.

If the need is going to be frequent and the data size not excessive consider a
usb flash drive, these go up to 2 gig now and are cheap and easy to use.

If the data size is a couple hundred meg you could even use your phone or
another digital device with a memory stick large enough.

If it's long term large storage you are after zip drives or burning to cd or dvd
rw is the go.

Removable HD are usually used where a data library (your porn collection say..)
is going to be often transported and used on discrete machines.

On Nov 29 2006 11:49 AM, RedKnave wrote:

> For the geeks in the crowd.......
>
> Does anyone have any working familiarity with these things? I have an
> internal IDE drive, currently sitting on my desk at work, that I need to
> get a lot of data off of, and really don't want to go the trouble of
> opening up and installing it in, and then pulling it out of, the three
> pc's that I need to copy the data to. This is the first I've looked into
> these devices and know nothing about them. Any opinions on specs, mfgr,
> model, price, etc would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 18:04:05
From: RedKnave
Subject: Re: Question about 3.5 USB external IDE hard drive case

On Nov 28 2006 8:44 PM, Necron99 wrote:

> It depends......:)
>
> If this is a one off requirement to move data from 3 pc's and cosolidate it
onto
> one, then pluging your spare drive in as a 2nd drive on the 3 would be the
> cheapest option and ultimately not alot more difficult than using a removable
> drive.

I think AMBBJ probably hit it right, but just to clarify: This is pretty
much a one off, but it could be used in the future for other, unknown as
of yet, needs. I had 15 years' worth of work product on a large HD which
was installed as an "E" or "F" drive in my previous PC. One afternoon,
while I wasn't there, some contract IT guys (contractors who took over my
job, btw) showed up at my office and swapped my PC for a new one. Per
their protocol, they saved and moved everything on the old "C" drive to
the new "C" drive, which was virtually nothing in terms of my work
product. Fortunately, I was able to retrieve the old data HD before they
wiped it.

Now, I want to move the data that's on the old IDE HD to 3 other PCs,
including my new one at work, my PC at home (permissible), and one other
that I use. The bastard contract IT guys won't do it b/c (1) it's not on
their list of requirements and (2) the connections on the internal drives
on the new PCs are different and they don't have adapters.

Nothing's ever as easy as it should be.

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Date: 29 Nov
From: Necron99
Subject: Re: Question about 3.5 USB external IDE hard drive case

OK, bit clearer.
Buy a portable docking bay for your ide drive, you can then use it as an
external removable drive on any pc.
This one is expensive but Im sure there are cheaper ones out there.
http://www.wiebetech.com/products/whatsupdock.php

On Nov 29 2006 1:04 PM, RedKnave wrote:

> On Nov 28 2006 8:44 PM, Necron99 wrote:
>
> > It depends......:)
> >
> > If this is a one off requirement to move data from 3 pc's and cosolidate it
> onto
> > one, then pluging your spare drive in as a 2nd drive on the 3 would be the
> > cheapest option and ultimately not alot more difficult than using a
> > removable
> > drive.
>
> I think AMBBJ probably hit it right, but just to clarify: This is pretty
> much a one off, but it could be used in the future for other, unknown as
> of yet, needs. I had 15 years' worth of work product on a large HD which
> was installed as an "E" or "F" drive in my previous PC. One afternoon,
> while I wasn't there, some contract IT guys (contractors who took over my
> job, btw) showed up at my office and swapped my PC for a new one. Per
> their protocol, they saved and moved everything on the old "C" drive to
> the new "C" drive, which was virtually nothing in terms of my work
> product. Fortunately, I was able to retrieve the old data HD before they
> wiped it.
>
> Now, I want to move the data that's on the old IDE HD to 3 other PCs,
> including my new one at work, my PC at home (permissible), and one other
> that I use. The bastard contract IT guys won't do it b/c (1) it's not on
> their list of requirements and (2) the connections on the internal drives
> on the new PCs are different and they don't have adapters.
>
> Nothing's ever as easy as it should be.
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 20:13:35
From: Kenneth Sloan
Subject: Re: Question about 3.5 USB external IDE hard drive case

RedKnave wrote:
> On Nov 28 2006 8:44 PM, Necron99 wrote:
>
>> It depends......:)
>>
>> If this is a one off requirement to move data from 3 pc's and cosolidate it
> onto
>> one, then pluging your spare drive in as a 2nd drive on the 3 would be the
>> cheapest option and ultimately not alot more difficult than using a removable
>> drive.
>
> I think AMBBJ probably hit it right, but just to clarify: This is pretty
> much a one off, but it could be used in the future for other, unknown as
> of yet, needs. I had 15 years' worth of work product on a large HD which
> was installed as an "E" or "F" drive in my previous PC. One afternoon,
> while I wasn't there, some contract IT guys (contractors who took over my
> job, btw) showed up at my office and swapped my PC for a new one. Per
> their protocol, they saved and moved everything on the old "C" drive to
> the new "C" drive, which was virtually nothing in terms of my work
> product. Fortunately, I was able to retrieve the old data HD before they
> wiped it.
>
> Now, I want to move the data that's on the old IDE HD to 3 other PCs,
> including my new one at work, my PC at home (permissible), and one other
> that I use. The bastard contract IT guys won't do it b/c (1) it's not on
> their list of requirements and (2) the connections on the internal drives
> on the new PCs are different and they don't have adapters.
>
> Nothing's ever as easy as it should be.
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You could, of course, restore it from backups.

Oh...you don't *have* backups? Oops.

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Date: 29 Nov 2006 06:34:00
From: RedKnave
Subject: Re: Question about 3.5 USB external IDE hard drive case

On Nov 28 2006 9:13 PM, Kenneth Sloan wrote:

> RedKnave wrote:
> > On Nov 28 2006 8:44 PM, Necron99 wrote:
> >
> >> It depends......:)
> >>
> >> If this is a one off requirement to move data from 3 pc's and cosolidate
it
> > onto
> >> one, then pluging your spare drive in as a 2nd drive on the 3 would be the
> >> cheapest option and ultimately not alot more difficult than using a
removable
> >> drive.
> >
> > I think AMBBJ probably hit it right, but just to clarify: This is pretty
> > much a one off, but it could be used in the future for other, unknown as
> > of yet, needs. I had 15 years' worth of work product on a large HD which
> > was installed as an "E" or "F" drive in my previous PC. One afternoon,
> > while I wasn't there, some contract IT guys (contractors who took over my
> > job, btw) showed up at my office and swapped my PC for a new one. Per
> > their protocol, they saved and moved everything on the old "C" drive to
> > the new "C" drive, which was virtually nothing in terms of my work
> > product. Fortunately, I was able to retrieve the old data HD before they
> > wiped it.
> >
> > Now, I want to move the data that's on the old IDE HD to 3 other PCs,
> > including my new one at work, my PC at home (permissible), and one other
> > that I use. The bastard contract IT guys won't do it b/c (1) it's not on
> > their list of requirements and (2) the connections on the internal drives
> > on the new PCs are different and they don't have adapters.
> >
> > Nothing's ever as easy as it should be.
> >
> You could, of course, restore it from backups.
>
> Oh...you don't *have* backups? Oops.
>
> --
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> Computer and Information Sciences +1-205-932-2213
> University of Alabama at Birmingham FAX +1-205-934-5473
> Birmingham, AL 35294-1170 http://www.cis.uab.edu/sloan/

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Date: 28 Nov 2006 20:43:53
From: A Man Beaten by Jacks
Subject: Re: Question about 3.5 USB external IDE hard drive case

On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 16:49:34 -0800, "RedKnave" <a1b6043@webnntp.invalid > wrote:

>For the geeks in the crowd.......

>Does anyone have any working familiarity with these things? I have an
>internal IDE drive, currently sitting on my desk at work, that I need to
>get a lot of data off of, and really don't want to go the trouble of
>opening up and installing it in, and then pulling it out of, the three
>pc's that I need to copy the data to. This is the first I've looked into
>these devices and know nothing about them. Any opinions on specs, mfgr,
>model, price, etc would be appreciated. Thanks.

I just go for the cheapest one I can find. Whether you need anything
more depends on how much ruggedness you need. Since there isn't
much that will make a hard drive survive a drop from any significant
height, though, I just go cheap.

I use http://pricewatch.com and similar sites for finding the cheapest
available item of any kind, though any decent cut-rate computer store
will have a couple of these cases sitting around, too, if you must
see them in person beforehand.

I've never paid more than $30-40 for something like this.

Date: 28 Nov 2006 18:12:04
From: RedKnave
Subject: Re: Question about 3.5 USB external IDE hard drive case

On Nov 28 2006 8:43 PM, A Man Beaten by Jacks wrote:

> On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 16:49:34 -0800, "RedKnave" <a1b6043@webnntp.invalid>
wrote:
>
> >For the geeks in the crowd.......
>
> >Does anyone have any working familiarity with these things? I have an
> >internal IDE drive, currently sitting on my desk at work, that I need to
> >get a lot of data off of, and really don't want to go the trouble of
> >opening up and installing it in, and then pulling it out of, the three
> >pc's that I need to copy the data to. This is the first I've looked into
> >these devices and know nothing about them. Any opinions on specs, mfgr,
> >model, price, etc would be appreciated. Thanks.
>
> I just go for the cheapest one I can find. Whether you need anything
> more depends on how much ruggedness you need. Since there isn't
> much that will make a hard drive survive a drop from any significant
> height, though, I just go cheap.
>
> I use http://pricewatch.com and similar sites for finding the cheapest
> available item of any kind, though any decent cut-rate computer store
> will have a couple of these cases sitting around, too, if you must
> see them in person beforehand.
>
> I've never paid more than $30-40 for something like this.

Good points. Thanks.

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Date: 28 Nov 2006 19:02:39
From: da pickle
Subject: Re: Question about 3.5 USB external IDE hard drive case

"RedKnave"

> For the geeks in the crowd.......
>
> Does anyone have any working familiarity with these things? I have an
> internal IDE drive

Your subject line does not seem to match the body of the post.

I don't know a lot about it, but it appears that something is misdescribed.

Date: 28 Nov 2006 17:43:42
From: RedKnave
Subject: Re: Question about 3.5 USB external IDE hard drive case

On Nov 28 2006 8:02 PM, da pickle wrote:

> "RedKnave"
>
> > For the geeks in the crowd.......
> >
> > Does anyone have any working familiarity with these things? I have an
> > internal IDE drive
>
> Your subject line does not seem to match the body of the post.
>
> I don't know a lot about it, but it appears that something is misdescribed.

You're right about that, of course. I had the hardest time even searching
for such a device on the web because of this problem. As it turned out,
the way I described it in the subject line is the way it's listed on
various computer parts web sites. To be a bit more [correctly]
descriptive -- I'm looking for an external case that accepts a 3.5 inch
internal IDE HDD and connects to a PC via USB, thereby turning the
internal IDE HDD into an external USB storage device. I hope that helps
anyone who is unfamiliar with these items, but who might be interested in
the possibilities they present.

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Date: 29 Nov 2006 04:07:22
From: Tate and Lyle
Subject: Re: Question about 3.5 USB external IDE hard drive case

"RedKnave" <a1b6043@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
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> On Nov 28 2006 8:02 PM, da pickle wrote:
>
>> "RedKnave"
>>
>> > For the geeks in the crowd.......
>> >
>> > Does anyone have any working familiarity with these things? I have an
>> > internal IDE drive
>>
>> Your subject line does not seem to match the body of the post.
>>
>> I don't know a lot about it, but it appears that something is
>> misdescribed.
>
> You're right about that, of course. I had the hardest time even searching
> for such a device on the web because of this problem. As it turned out,
> the way I described it in the subject line is the way it's listed on
> various computer parts web sites. To be a bit more [correctly]
> descriptive -- I'm looking for an external case that accepts a 3.5 inch
> internal IDE HDD and connects to a PC via USB, thereby turning the
> internal IDE HDD into an external USB storage device. I hope that helps
> anyone who is unfamiliar with these items, but who might be interested in
> the possibilities they present.

I must admit you had me confused but I managed to work it out shortly before
reading your
explanation.

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Date: 29 Nov 2006 01:36:57
From: Yardz
Subject: Re: Question about 3.5 USB external IDE hard drive case

I have used these devices many times, you should be able to do what you need
to do just fine.

And by the way...your subject line is just fine, it just takes someone to
know what you are talking about.

"da pickle" <jcpickels@(nospam)hotmail.com > wrote in message
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> "RedKnave"
>
>> For the geeks in the crowd.......
>>
>> Does anyone have any working familiarity with these things? I have an
>> internal IDE drive
>
> Your subject line does not seem to match the body of the post.
>
> I don't know a lot about it, but it appears that something is
> misdescribed.
>

Date: 28 Nov 2006 17:46:43
From: RedKnave
Subject: Re: Question about 3.5 USB external IDE hard drive case

On Nov 28 2006 8:36 PM, Yardz wrote:

> I have used these devices many times, you should be able to do what you need
> to do just fine.

Do you happen to have any recommendations, per chance? There seems to be
a bit a range of price, and I don't know if there are any technical specs
I should be concerned about.

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Date: 29 Nov 2006 10:22:01
From: KilgoreTrout
Subject: Re: Question about 3.5 USB external IDE hard drive case

On Nov 28 2006 7:49 PM, RedKnave wrote:

> For the geeks in the crowd.......
>
> Does anyone have any working familiarity with these things? I have an
> internal IDE drive, currently sitting on my desk at work, that I need to
> get a lot of data off of, and really don't want to go the trouble of
> opening up and installing it in, and then pulling it out of, the three
> pc's that I need to copy the data to. This is the first I've looked into
> these devices and know nothing about them. Any opinions on specs, mfgr,
> model, price, etc would be appreciated. Thanks.

This is from one of the How 2.0 or DIY articles at the back of a recent
Pop Science (I save these religiously from a number of science/tech/pc
magazines... never know when one will come in handy):

Buy a CP Technologies aluminum USB 2.0 enclosure ($15 at newegg.com)

Make sure your drive and case use the same type of connector (IDE or SATA)

When you get the enclosure, it's as simple as:

(1) Plug it in. There are two cables, a ribbon (data) and power; just
plug both in tightly to the corresponding connector on the case.

(2) Screw it down. Screw the drive into the bracket that came with the
case.

(3) Slide it in. Make sure the LED on the cirvuit board is lined up with
the window on the case.

(4) Seal it up. Screw the back cover of the case on, again making sure
the power-cable and USB ports line up with their cutouts.

Plug new drive into USB port. Have fun.

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Date: 29 Nov 2006 11:00:54
From: RedKnave
Subject: Re: Question about 3.5 USB external IDE hard drive case

On Nov 29 2006 1:22 PM, KilgoreTrout wrote:

> On Nov 28 2006 7:49 PM, RedKnave wrote:
>
> > For the geeks in the crowd.......
> >
> > Does anyone have any working familiarity with these things? I have an
> > internal IDE drive, currently sitting on my desk at work, that I need to
> > get a lot of data off of, and really don't want to go the trouble of
> > opening up and installing it in, and then pulling it out of, the three
> > pc's that I need to copy the data to. This is the first I've looked into
> > these devices and know nothing about them. Any opinions on specs, mfgr,
> > model, price, etc would be appreciated. Thanks.
>
>
> This is from one of the How 2.0 or DIY articles at the back of a recent
> Pop Science (I save these religiously from a number of science/tech/pc
> magazines... never know when one will come in handy):
>
> Buy a CP Technologies aluminum USB 2.0 enclosure ($15 at newegg.com)
>
> Make sure your drive and case use the same type of connector (IDE or SATA)
>
> When you get the enclosure, it's as simple as:
>
> (1) Plug it in. There are two cables, a ribbon (data) and power; just
> plug both in tightly to the corresponding connector on the case.
>
> (2) Screw it down. Screw the drive into the bracket that came with the
> case.
>
> (3) Slide it in. Make sure the LED on the cirvuit board is lined up with
> the window on the case.
>
> (4) Seal it up. Screw the back cover of the case on, again making sure
> the power-cable and USB ports line up with their cutouts.
>
> Plug new drive into USB port. Have fun.
>
> Cheers.

Cool. Thanks, I'll check it out. Popular Science is one of my favorite
mags, but for some reason I rarely get a chance to read it and have never
subscribed. I really should.

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Date: 29 Nov 15:32:03
From: CHarrison100
Subject: Re: Question about 3.5 USB external IDE hard drive case