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Date: 03 Dec 2006 17:38:06
From: Lee Jones
Subject: Pokerstars - sure it is random


Two straight flushes in a row - only on Jokerstars





PokerStars Game #7282357097: Tournament #37241181, 300+20 Omaha Hi/Lo No
Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2006/12/03 - 12:30:29 (ET)

Table '37241181 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button

Seat 1: OnWayTicket (30 in chips)

Seat 2: CharlieM666 (4090 in chips)

Seat 6: sleipnir81 (6670 in chips) is sitting out

Seat 7: LHsLover (1970 in chips)

Seat 8: abb3 (740 in chips)

OnWayTicket: posts small blind 10

CharlieM666: posts big blind 20

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to CharlieM666 [8c 2c Jd 9h]

sleipnir81: folds

LHsLover: calls 20

abb3: folds

OnWayTicket: calls 10

CharlieM666: checks

*** FLOP *** [5d 4s 2d]

OnWayTicket: bets 10 and is all-in

CharlieM666: calls 10

LHsLover: calls 10

*** TURN *** [5d 4s 2d] [6d]

CharlieM666: checks

LHsLover: bets 100

CharlieM666: folds

*** RIVER *** [5d 4s 2d 6d] [4d]

*** SHOW DOWN ***

OnWayTicket: shows [7h 6h Js 6s] (HI: a full house, Sixes full of Fours; LO:
7,6,5,4,2)

LHsLover: shows [Ks 7d 8d Kc] (HI: a straight flush, Four to Eight; LO:
8,7,5,4,2)

LHsLover collected 45 from pot

OnWayTicket collected 45 from pot

*** SUMMARY ***

Total pot 90




 
Date: 03 Dec 2006 11:03:33
From: Monty_Burns
Subject: Re: Pokerstars - sure it is random


I didn't notice it was play money. Yep, the odds are significantly
higher when more players go to the river. But maybe "Jokerstars" is
trying to get more play money buyins so they can rake more play money.
I mean, how can they ever fund the new players.



  
Date: 03 Dec 2006 14:07:05
From: A Man Beaten by Jacks
Subject: Re: Pokerstars - sure it is random


On 3 Dec 2006 11:03:33 -0800, "Monty_Burns" <egbeachley@yahoo.com > wrote:

>I didn't notice it was play money. Yep, the odds are significantly
>higher when more players go to the river. But maybe "Jokerstars" is
>trying to get more play money buyins so they can rake more play money.
>I mean, how can they ever fund the new players.

Obviously, they have to cheat somehow. They give 1000 "free" play
money to every player, and then give it to them again when they lose it.
This obviously FORCES them to cheat. Do people think play money
grows on trees?


   
Date: 03 Dec 2006 19:24:02
From: Lee Jones
Subject: Re: Pokerstars - sure it is random


You all are so kind to point out these things. I kind of figured that more
people bet to the river on play money, no wait there were only two on each
hand posted, but what the heck. Also I did not say that Jokerstars "cheated"
it's just not random as the posted was only one example of oddities that
happen on Pokerstars. Now that you all have proven how smart, wise and
experienced you are, flame away in defense of Jokerstars, or better yet get
back to playing for real money so when you become rich and famous you can
write a book about how you achieved such greatness by playing online poker!
Now get a life outside of trying to belittle someone who just wanted to vent
a bit.




"A Man Beaten by Jacks" <nobody@fool.foo > wrote in message
news:d186n2pbo4rje427h55rqhdh26kkb4a8v9@4ax.com...
> On 3 Dec 2006 11:03:33 -0800, "Monty_Burns" <egbeachley@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>I didn't notice it was play money. Yep, the odds are significantly
>>higher when more players go to the river. But maybe "Jokerstars" is
>>trying to get more play money buyins so they can rake more play money.
>>I mean, how can they ever fund the new players.
>
> Obviously, they have to cheat somehow. They give 1000 "free" play
> money to every player, and then give it to them again when they lose it.
> This obviously FORCES them to cheat. Do people think play money
> grows on trees?




    
Date: 03 Dec 2006 17:59:57
From: Sng
Subject: Re: Pokerstars - sure it is random


Lee Jones wrote:

> Now get a life outside of trying to belittle someone who just wanted to vent
> a bit.
>
If you need to vent because you lost some play money, perhaps you need
to rethink who needs to get a life outside.


 
Date: 03 Dec 2006 13:54:53
From: sng
Subject: Re: Pokerstars - sure it is random


Lee Jones wrote:
> Two straight flushes in a row - only on Jokerstars
>
No only on play money games where the winning straight flushes are made
with hands that would be never played if real money was on the line. And
called down to the river with other hands that would never be played
if real money was on the line.

I'm not surprised you don't understand this simple concept.


--
S. Doyle
doyles AT mountaincable DOT net


 
Date: 03 Dec 2006 10:15:35
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: Pokerstars - sure it is random


> PokerStars Game #7282357097: Tournament #37241181, 300+20 Omaha Hi/Lo No

lolol, why does it not surprise me that you're playing for play money
online?

Morphy
http://donkeymanifesto.blogspot.com

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Date: 03 Dec 2006 18:38:33
From: Lee Jones
Subject: Re: Pokerstars - sure it is random


duh - play for real money on Jokerstars? now there is a "lol"
"XaQ Morphy" <a1c5905@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
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>> PokerStars Game #7282357097: Tournament #37241181, 300+20 Omaha Hi/Lo No
>
> lolol, why does it not surprise me that you're playing for play money
> online?
>
> Morphy
> http://donkeymanifesto.blogspot.com
>
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Date: 03 Dec 2006 09:58:54
From:
Subject: Re: Pokerstars - sure it is random



Lee Jones wrote:
> No I did not notice I was playing Omaha! Man are you so smart to point that
> out, thank you!
>
> "Monty_Burns" <egbeachley@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1165167863.389912.113350@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com...
> > Ummmm, you did notice it was Omaha, right? The odds are about 50,000
> > to 1 that a sf will hit after another sf. But since there are 100,000
> > hands dealt daily, it's bound to happen twice a day somewhere. The
> > trick is to find the other one...and the 2 the day earlier...and the 2
> > the next day....etc.
> >

He's pointing out that you should expect to see two straight flushes in
a row - if it NEVER happened there would be a serious problem.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases#Biases_in_probability_and_belief



 
Date: 03 Dec 2006 09:44:23
From: Monty_Burns
Subject: Re: Pokerstars - sure it is random


Ummmm, you did notice it was Omaha, right? The odds are about 50,000
to 1 that a sf will hit after another sf. But since there are 100,000
hands dealt daily, it's bound to happen twice a day somewhere. The
trick is to find the other one...and the 2 the day earlier...and the 2
the next day....etc.



  
Date: 03 Dec 2006 17:55:44
From: Lee Jones
Subject: Re: Pokerstars - sure it is random


No I did not notice I was playing Omaha! Man are you so smart to point that
out, thank you!

"Monty_Burns" <egbeachley@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1165167863.389912.113350@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com...
> Ummmm, you did notice it was Omaha, right? The odds are about 50,000
> to 1 that a sf will hit after another sf. But since there are 100,000
> hands dealt daily, it's bound to happen twice a day somewhere. The
> trick is to find the other one...and the 2 the day earlier...and the 2
> the next day....etc.
>




 
Date: 04 Dec 22:38:21
From: Follow
Subject: Re: Pokerstars - sure it is random





On Dec 3 2006 10:38 AM, Lee Jones wrote:

> Two straight flushes in a row - only on Jokerstars
>  (Play money venting snipped)

Wow, posting a venting thread about how you were cheated out of your play money
is classic.  This gets my "dumbass post of the decade" award.

Venting is one thing, but blaming it on an RNG saying they cheated or that their
numbers aren't random (even for play money) is what pushes you into the
stratosphere of tards.




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Date: 05 Dec 2006 04:24:18
From: Lee Jones
Subject: Re: Pokerstars - sure it is random


"Follow" <43086214@recpoker.com > wrote in message
news:1165271901$916244@recpoker.com...
>
>
>
> On Dec 3 2006 10:38 AM, Lee Jones wrote:
>
>> Two straight flushes in a row - only on Jokerstars
>> (Play money venting snipped)
>
> Wow, posting a venting thread about how you were cheated out of your play
> money
> is classic. This gets my "dumbass post of the decade" award.
>
> Venting is one thing, but blaming it on an RNG saying they cheated or that
> their
> numbers aren't random (even for play money) is what pushes you into the
> stratosphere of tards.
>

Maybe you ought to learn to read, tard. No where was it said they "cheated".
It is dark where your head is at and can you hear with your colon wrapped
around your ears?




   
Date: 05 Dec 18:05:40
From: Follow
Subject: Re: Pokerstars - sure it is random





On Dec 4 2006 9:24 PM, Lee Jones wrote:

> Maybe you ought to learn to read, tard. No where was it said they "cheated".
> It is dark where your head is at and can you hear with your colon wrapped
> around your ears?

Well, I do seem to be seeing a swarm of shit lately.  Make sure to bank on the
back to back straight flushes next time you see one, ok?  Once you graduate to
the micro-stakes, maybe you'll have something useful to say.




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