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Date: 06 Dec 2006 06:00:45
From: Turnstiles
Subject: Pokerstars - Beating The Game Program

This is not a bad beat story but rather how I play my hands differently
against the game program vs. being in a brick and mortar setting.
Many times after winning a decent size pot the following hand will deal
me A,10 either suited or unsuited from early position. Under a normal
brick and mortar situation I would come in for an average raise or
maybe limp in but through my past experience of playing online i ALWAYS
muck this hand playing online because I know the game program is
trapping me and sure enough when it goes to a showdown the other two
players have either A,K or A,Q or a painted pair. I'm adapting my
play to how the game program runs.
Does anyone else feel agree or disagree with this? Do you have another
situation where you do the same thing, playing differently online vs.
brick and mortar with identical hands. Thanks, Dan

Date: 06 Dec 2006 10:04:58
From: Turnstiles
Subject: Re: Pokerstars - Beating The Game Program

I sure hope you mentally fucked up people will be sitting at my poker
table. Dan

Kinnipak wrote:
> On Dec 6 2006 8:00 AM, Turnstiles wrote:
>
> > This is not a bad beat story but rather how I play my hands differently
> > against the game program vs. being in a brick and mortar setting.
> > Many times after winning a decent size pot the following hand will deal
> > me A,10 either suited or unsuited from early position. Under a normal
> > brick and mortar situation I would come in for an average raise or
> > maybe limp in but through my past experience of playing online i ALWAYS
> > muck this hand playing online because I know the game program is
> > trapping me and sure enough when it goes to a showdown the other two
> > players have either A,K or A,Q or a painted pair. I'm adapting my
> > play to how the game program runs.
> > Does anyone else feel agree or disagree with this? Do you have another
> > situation where you do the same thing, playing differently online vs.
> > brick and mortar with identical hands. Thanks, Dan
>
> --
> * 1 pound pork sausage links, sliced
> * 1 tablespoon whole cloves
> * 1 whole onion, peeled
> * 3 sprigs fresh parsley
> * 1 sprig fresh thyme
> * 1/2 pound bacon
> * 1 sprig fresh rosemary
> * 1 pound dry navy beans, soaked overnight
> * 1 bay leaf
> * 3 carrots, peeled and sliced
> * 3 cloves garlic, minced
> * 1 pound skinned, boned duck breast halves, sliced into thin strips.
> * 1 fresh tomato, chopped
>
> DIRECTIONS
>
> 1. In a large skillet, brown the sliced sausage over medium heat.
> 2. Insert whole cloves into onion. Roll bacon up, and tie with a
> string. Tie together parsley, thyme, and rosemary.
> 3. In a large slow cooker, place soaked beans, sausage, bacon, onion
> studded with cloves, fresh herbs, bay leaf, carrots, minced garlic, and
> duck. Add enough water to cover the other ingredients. Cook for 1 hour on
> HIGH. Reduce heat to LOW, and continue cooking for 6 to 8 hours.
> 4. Remove onion, bacon, and herbs. Stir in chopped tomatoes. Continue
> cooking for 1/2 hour. Serve.
>
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Date: 06 Dec 2006 10:15:43
From: Kinnipak
Subject: Re: Pokerstars - Beating The Game Program

No offense Dan, but I am not the one who said...

"...I know the game program is
> > trapping me..."

who's mentally fucked up?

On Dec 6 2006 12:04 PM, Turnstiles wrote:

> I sure hope you mentally fucked up people will be sitting at my poker
> table. Dan
>
>
> Kinnipak wrote:
> > On Dec 6 2006 8:00 AM, Turnstiles wrote:
> >
> > > This is not a bad beat story but rather how I play my hands differently
> > > against the game program vs. being in a brick and mortar setting.
> > > Many times after winning a decent size pot the following hand will deal
> > > me A,10 either suited or unsuited from early position. Under a normal
> > > brick and mortar situation I would come in for an average raise or
> > > maybe limp in but through my past experience of playing online i ALWAYS
> > > muck this hand playing online because I know the game program is
> > > trapping me and sure enough when it goes to a showdown the other two
> > > players have either A,K or A,Q or a painted pair. I'm adapting my
> > > play to how the game program runs.
> > > Does anyone else feel agree or disagree with this? Do you have another
> > > situation where you do the same thing, playing differently online vs.
> > > brick and mortar with identical hands. Thanks, Dan
> >
> > --
> > * 1 pound pork sausage links, sliced
> > * 1 tablespoon whole cloves
> > * 1 whole onion, peeled
> > * 3 sprigs fresh parsley
> > * 1 sprig fresh thyme
> > * 1/2 pound bacon
> > * 1 sprig fresh rosemary
> > * 1 pound dry navy beans, soaked overnight
> > * 1 bay leaf
> > * 3 carrots, peeled and sliced
> > * 3 cloves garlic, minced
> > * 1 pound skinned, boned duck breast halves, sliced into thin strips.
> > * 1 fresh tomato, chopped
> >
> > DIRECTIONS
> >
> > 1. In a large skillet, brown the sliced sausage over medium heat.
> > 2. Insert whole cloves into onion. Roll bacon up, and tie with a
> > string. Tie together parsley, thyme, and rosemary.
> > 3. In a large slow cooker, place soaked beans, sausage, bacon, onion
> > studded with cloves, fresh herbs, bay leaf, carrots, minced garlic, and
> > duck. Add enough water to cover the other ingredients. Cook for 1 hour on
> > HIGH. Reduce heat to LOW, and continue cooking for 6 to 8 hours.
> > 4. Remove onion, bacon, and herbs. Stir in chopped tomatoes. Continue
> > cooking for 1/2 hour. Serve.
> >

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Date: 06 Dec 18:43:01
From: Jonathan
Subject: Re: Pokerstars - Beating The Game Program

i play alot looser in B&M cause when i look in your soul i can tell if your
scared or not. online is just a fucking boring grind. wait wait wait big pot
wait wait wait

On Dec 6 2006 10:15 AM, Kinnipak wrote:

> No offense Dan, but I am not the one who said...
>
> "...I know the game program is
> > > trapping me..."
>
> who's mentally fucked up?
>
>
> On Dec 6 2006 12:04 PM, Turnstiles wrote:
>
> > I sure hope you mentally fucked up people will be sitting at my poker
> > table. Dan
> >
> >
> > Kinnipak wrote:
> > > On Dec 6 2006 8:00 AM, Turnstiles wrote:
> > >
> > > > This is not a bad beat story but rather how I play my hands differently
> > > > against the game program vs. being in a brick and mortar setting.
> > > > Many times after winning a decent size pot the following hand will deal
> > > > me A,10 either suited or unsuited from early position. Under a normal
> > > > brick and mortar situation I would come in for an average raise or
> > > > maybe limp in but through my past experience of playing online i ALWAYS
> > > > muck this hand playing online because I know the game program is
> > > > trapping me and sure enough when it goes to a showdown the other two
> > > > players have either A,K or A,Q or a painted pair. I'm adapting my
> > > > play to how the game program runs.
> > > > Does anyone else feel agree or disagree with this? Do you have another
> > > > situation where you do the same thing, playing differently online vs.
> > > > brick and mortar with identical hands. Thanks, Dan
> > >
> > > --
> > > * 1 pound pork sausage links, sliced
> > > * 1 tablespoon whole cloves
> > > * 1 whole onion, peeled
> > > * 3 sprigs fresh parsley
> > > * 1 sprig fresh thyme
> > > * 1/2 pound bacon
> > > * 1 sprig fresh rosemary
> > > * 1 pound dry navy beans, soaked overnight
> > > * 1 bay leaf
> > > * 3 carrots, peeled and sliced
> > > * 3 cloves garlic, minced
> > > * 1 pound skinned, boned duck breast halves, sliced into thin strips.
> > > * 1 fresh tomato, chopped
> > >
> > > DIRECTIONS
> > >
> > > 1. In a large skillet, brown the sliced sausage over medium heat.
> > > 2. Insert whole cloves into onion. Roll bacon up, and tie with a
> > > string. Tie together parsley, thyme, and rosemary.
> > > 3. In a large slow cooker, place soaked beans, sausage, bacon, onion
> > > studded with cloves, fresh herbs, bay leaf, carrots, minced garlic, and
> > > duck. Add enough water to cover the other ingredients. Cook for 1 hour on
> > > HIGH. Reduce heat to LOW, and continue cooking for 6 to 8 hours.
> > > 4. Remove onion, bacon, and herbs. Stir in chopped tomatoes. Continue
> > > cooking for 1/2 hour. Serve.
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Date: 06 Dec 2006 12:07:35
From:
Subject: Re: Pokerstars - Beating The Game Program

MysteriAce wrote:
> On Dec 6 2006 12:44 PM, trangers16 wrote:
>
> > skillsaw777 wrote:
> > > Another wakes up. Congratulations.
> > >
> > > "Pokerstars is engineered to balance play between good and bad players
> > > so that more money stays in the middle and the rake potential is
> > > maximized."
> >
> > "Why do you keep putting something in quotes without attributing it?"
> >
> > "Do you think it makes you look smart?"
>
> Given his "quote", I think "looking smart" is hardly his objective.
>
> ~ MysteriAce
>
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> Foe and friend
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"Well hell, he's quoted it so many times, I was thinking it HAS to be
true."

Date: 06 Dec 2006 09:57:21
From: Kinnipak
Subject: Re: Pokerstars - Beating The Game Program

On Dec 6 2006 8:00 AM, Turnstiles wrote:

> This is not a bad beat story but rather how I play my hands differently
> against the game program vs. being in a brick and mortar setting.
> Many times after winning a decent size pot the following hand will deal
> me A,10 either suited or unsuited from early position. Under a normal
> brick and mortar situation I would come in for an average raise or
> maybe limp in but through my past experience of playing online i ALWAYS
> muck this hand playing online because I know the game program is
> trapping me and sure enough when it goes to a showdown the other two
> players have either A,K or A,Q or a painted pair. I'm adapting my
> play to how the game program runs.
> Does anyone else feel agree or disagree with this? Do you have another
> situation where you do the same thing, playing differently online vs.
> brick and mortar with identical hands. Thanks, Dan

--
* 1 pound pork sausage links, sliced
* 1 tablespoon whole cloves
* 1 whole onion, peeled
* 3 sprigs fresh parsley
* 1 sprig fresh thyme
* 1/2 pound bacon
* 1 sprig fresh rosemary
* 1 pound dry navy beans, soaked overnight
* 1 bay leaf
* 3 carrots, peeled and sliced
* 3 cloves garlic, minced
* 1 pound skinned, boned duck breast halves, sliced into thin strips.
* 1 fresh tomato, chopped

DIRECTIONS

1. In a large skillet, brown the sliced sausage over medium heat.
2. Insert whole cloves into onion. Roll bacon up, and tie with a
string. Tie together parsley, thyme, and rosemary.
3. In a large slow cooker, place soaked beans, sausage, bacon, onion
studded with cloves, fresh herbs, bay leaf, carrots, minced garlic, and
duck. Add enough water to cover the other ingredients. Cook for 1 hour on
HIGH. Reduce heat to LOW, and continue cooking for 6 to 8 hours.
4. Remove onion, bacon, and herbs. Stir in chopped tomatoes. Continue
cooking for 1/2 hour. Serve.

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Date: 06 Dec 2006 17:01:48
From: A Man Beaten by Jacks
Subject: Re: Pokerstars - Beating The Game Program

On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:57:21 -0800, "Kinnipak" <a83ea3b@webnntp.invalid > wrote:

> * 1 pound pork sausage links, sliced
> * 1 tablespoon whole cloves
> * 1 whole onion, peeled
> * 3 sprigs fresh parsley
> * 1 sprig fresh thyme
> * 1/2 pound bacon
> * 1 sprig fresh rosemary
> * 1 pound dry navy beans, soaked overnight
> * 1 bay leaf
> * 3 carrots, peeled and sliced
> * 3 cloves garlic, minced
> * 1 pound skinned, boned duck breast halves, sliced into thin strips.
> * 1 fresh tomato, chopped

>DIRECTIONS

> 1. In a large skillet, brown the sliced sausage over medium heat.
> 2. Insert whole cloves into onion. Roll bacon up, and tie with a
>string. Tie together parsley, thyme, and rosemary.
> 3. In a large slow cooker, place soaked beans, sausage, bacon, onion
>studded with cloves, fresh herbs, bay leaf, carrots, minced garlic, and
>duck. Add enough water to cover the other ingredients. Cook for 1 hour on
>HIGH. Reduce heat to LOW, and continue cooking for 6 to 8 hours.
> 4. Remove onion, bacon, and herbs. Stir in chopped tomatoes. Continue
>cooking for 1/2 hour. Serve.

What is it called? Looks fucking delicious.

Date: 06 Dec 2006 17:10:05
From: Mark B $Diputsur$
Subject: Re: Pokerstars - Beating The Game Program

"A Man Beaten by Jacks" <nobody@fool.foo > wrote in message
news:3dfen21mh5hsu75qro2pnioct1ih1mjri7@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:57:21 -0800, "Kinnipak" <a83ea3b@webnntp.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> * 1 pound pork sausage links, sliced
>> * 1 tablespoon whole cloves
>> * 1 whole onion, peeled
>> * 3 sprigs fresh parsley
>> * 1 sprig fresh thyme
>> * 1/2 pound bacon
>> * 1 sprig fresh rosemary
>> * 1 pound dry navy beans, soaked overnight
>> * 1 bay leaf
>> * 3 carrots, peeled and sliced
>> * 3 cloves garlic, minced
>> * 1 pound skinned, boned duck breast halves, sliced into thin strips.
>> * 1 fresh tomato, chopped
>
>>DIRECTIONS
>
>> 1. In a large skillet, brown the sliced sausage over medium heat.
>> 2. Insert whole cloves into onion. Roll bacon up, and tie with a
>>string. Tie together parsley, thyme, and rosemary.
>> 3. In a large slow cooker, place soaked beans, sausage, bacon, onion
>>studded with cloves, fresh herbs, bay leaf, carrots, minced garlic, and
>>duck. Add enough water to cover the other ingredients. Cook for 1 hour on
>>HIGH. Reduce heat to LOW, and continue cooking for 6 to 8 hours.
>> 4. Remove onion, bacon, and herbs. Stir in chopped tomatoes. Continue
>>cooking for 1/2 hour. Serve.
>
> What is it called? Looks fucking delicious.

Duck Cassoulet

Date: 06 Dec 2006 16:42:53
From: BillyPilgrim
Subject: Re: Pokerstars - Beating The Game Program

On Dec 6 2006 10:10 PM, Mark B (Diputsur) wrote:

> "A Man Beaten by Jacks" <nobody@fool.foo> wrote in message
> news:3dfen21mh5hsu75qro2pnioct1ih1mjri7@4ax.com...
> > On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:57:21 -0800, "Kinnipak" <a83ea3b@webnntp.invalid>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> * 1 pound pork sausage links, sliced
> >> * 1 tablespoon whole cloves
> >> * 1 whole onion, peeled
> >> * 3 sprigs fresh parsley
> >> * 1 sprig fresh thyme
> >> * 1/2 pound bacon
> >> * 1 sprig fresh rosemary
> >> * 1 pound dry navy beans, soaked overnight
> >> * 1 bay leaf
> >> * 3 carrots, peeled and sliced
> >> * 3 cloves garlic, minced
> >> * 1 pound skinned, boned duck breast halves, sliced into thin strips.
> >> * 1 fresh tomato, chopped
> >
> >>DIRECTIONS
> >
> >> 1. In a large skillet, brown the sliced sausage over medium heat.
> >> 2. Insert whole cloves into onion. Roll bacon up, and tie with a
> >>string. Tie together parsley, thyme, and rosemary.
> >> 3. In a large slow cooker, place soaked beans, sausage, bacon, onion
> >>studded with cloves, fresh herbs, bay leaf, carrots, minced garlic, and
> >>duck. Add enough water to cover the other ingredients. Cook for 1 hour on
> >>HIGH. Reduce heat to LOW, and continue cooking for 6 to 8 hours.
> >> 4. Remove onion, bacon, and herbs. Stir in chopped tomatoes. Continue
> >>cooking for 1/2 hour. Serve.
> >
> > What is it called? Looks fucking delicious.
>
> Duck Cassoulet

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Date: 06 Dec 2006 08:57:58
From: MysteriAce
Subject: Re: Pokerstars - Beating The Game Program

Date: 06 Dec 2006 06:18:10
From: Brian Skills
Subject: Re: Pokerstars - Beating The Game Program

I live in a gated apartment/townhouse community. Last night someone drove
their vehicle into one of our entrance gates. They just plowed right into it
doing 25-30 miles per hour. You have to understand these gates are like 10
feet tall by 30 feet wide. They're made out of heavy iron bar. They even
have signs on them. Hard to miss.

The gate is just below my balcony. We here this loud CRASH. We step out to
look and there's the culprit. He had smashed the gate about 1/4 of the way
open and was stuck. He decided to run but he was inside our gates. So he
just slammed it in reverse doing about 60 over some speed bumps. I guess he
was going to try another exit.

Kinda funny.

Just makes you wonder what the hell people are thinking.

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"Turnstiles" <turnstilesdan@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1165413645.523722.198490@16g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
> This is not a bad beat story but rather how I play my hands differently
> against the game program vs. being in a brick and mortar setting.
> Many times after winning a decent size pot the following hand will deal
> me A,10 either suited or unsuited from early position. Under a normal
> brick and mortar situation I would come in for an average raise or
> maybe limp in but through my past experience of playing online i ALWAYS
> muck this hand playing online because I know the game program is
> trapping me and sure enough when it goes to a showdown the other two
> players have either A,K or A,Q or a painted pair. I'm adapting my
> play to how the game program runs.
> Does anyone else feel agree or disagree with this? Do you have another
> situation where you do the same thing, playing differently online vs.
> brick and mortar with identical hands. Thanks, Dan
>

Date: 07 Dec
From: Mav2000
Subject: Re: Pokerstars - Beating The Game Program

I love the way the shills come out of the woodwork everytime spomeone makes a
post dealing with online hands being rigged to maximize profit. Could you guys
also tell us what names you play under and at what sites? Of course the names
probably change from day to day so it wouldn't do much good.

On Dec 6 2006 6:00 AM, Turnstiles wrote:

> This is not a bad beat story but rather how I play my hands differently
> against the game program vs. being in a brick and mortar setting.
> Many times after winning a decent size pot the following hand will deal
> me A,10 either suited or unsuited from early position. Under a normal
> brick and mortar situation I would come in for an average raise or
> maybe limp in but through my past experience of playing online i ALWAYS
> muck this hand playing online because I know the game program is
> trapping me and sure enough when it goes to a showdown the other two
> players have either A,K or A,Q or a painted pair. I'm adapting my
> play to how the game program runs.
> Does anyone else feel agree or disagree with this? Do you have another
> situation where you do the same thing, playing differently online vs.
> brick and mortar with identical hands. Thanks, Dan

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Date: 06 Dec 2006 16:59:44
From: A Man Beaten by Jacks
Subject: Re: Pokerstars - Beating The Game Program

On 6 Dec 2006 06:00:45 -0800, "Turnstiles" <turnstilesdan@yahoo.com > wrote:

>This is not a bad beat story but rather how I play my hands differently
>against the game program vs. being in a brick and mortar setting.
>Many times after winning a decent size pot the following hand will deal
>me A,10 either suited or unsuited from early position. Under a normal
>brick and mortar situation I would come in for an average raise or
>maybe limp in but through my past experience of playing online i ALWAYS
>muck this hand playing online because I know the game program is
>trapping me and sure enough when it goes to a showdown the other two
>players have either A,K or A,Q or a painted pair. I'm adapting my
>play to how the game program runs.

If you're playing a full table, raising AT UTG is bullshit and you deserve to
lose. Shorthanded, okay.

Date: 06 Dec 2006 13:56:46
From: Old Wolf
Subject: Re: Pokerstars - Beating The Game Program

Turnstiles wrote:
> This is not a bad beat story but rather how I play my hands differently
> against the game program vs. being in a brick and mortar setting.
> Many times after winning a decent size pot the following hand will deal
> me A,10 either suited or unsuited from early position. Under a normal
> brick and mortar situation I would come in for an average raise

If that is a profitable play, your B&M must be full of small reptiles.

Date: 06 Dec 2006 14:14:48
From: MysteriAce
Subject: Re: Pokerstars - Beating The Game Program

"If that is a profitable play, your B&M must be full of small reptiles."

:)

~ MysteriAce

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Foe and friend
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Date: 06 Dec 21:18:15
From: Follow
Subject: Re: Pokerstars - Beating The Game Program

On Dec 6 2006 7:00 AM, Turnstiles wrote:

> This is not a bad beat story but rather how I play my hands differently
> against the game program vs. being in a brick and mortar setting.
> Many times after winning a decent size pot the following hand will deal
> me A,10 either suited or unsuited from early position. Under a normal
> brick and mortar situation I would come in for an average raise or
> maybe limp in but through my past experience of playing online i ALWAYS
> muck this hand playing online because I know the game program is
> trapping me and sure enough when it goes to a showdown the other two
> players have either A,K or A,Q or a painted pair. I'm adapting my
> play to how the game program runs.
> Does anyone else feel agree or disagree with this? Do you have another
> situation where you do the same thing, playing differently online vs.
> brick and mortar with identical hands. Thanks, Dan

Actually, I have a couple of friends who will absolutely NOT play a pot, no
matter what their cards are if they have just scooped a pot. This is in a live
setting where we get together and play every 2 weeks or so. They won't play the
next pot for superstition reasons and because they feel like their ego gets in
the way of their playing ability and generally lose chips.

So while they don't say that the game is rigged, they have the same superstition
as you have in real life in a real setting.

I just think it's funny how novel people are being with tie ideas like "the
program is trapping me." :P

Real life poker is just as rigged as online poker for those who are overly
convinced of their greatness.

Let me give you a tip, instead of constantly blaming bad beats, rigged programs,
or whatever the hell else, blame yourself by default and see what you could have
done differently. That's the best advice anyone can ever give you and prevent
you from being a pathetic loser all your life, in poker and in ever other thing
you do, but I'm sure you'll just flame me for this. Good luck.

Follow :)

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Date: 06 Dec 2006 13:31:48
From: DaVoice
Subject: Re: Pokerstars - Beating The Game Program

"Follow" <43086214@recpoker.com > wrote
>
> Actually, I have a couple of friends who will absolutely NOT play a pot,
> no
> matter what their cards are if they have just scooped a pot. This is in a
> live
> setting where we get together and play every 2 weeks or so. They won't
> play the
> next pot for superstition reasons and because they feel like their ego
> gets in
> the way of their playing ability and generally lose chips.

I would strongly suggest keeping them away from KILL pot games :)

RC

Date: 06 Dec 2006 11:43:31
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: Pokerstars - Beating The Game Program

> Does anyone else feel agree or disagree with this? Do you have another
> situation where you do the same thing, playing differently online vs.
> brick and mortar with identical hands. Thanks, Dan

I totally know what you mean. Like, let's say I'm at a casino and get
dealt AA. I'm certainly going to come in for a raise.

But, let's say I'm at home playing online, and get dealt AA. At the same
time, the phone rings, there's a knock at the door, the oven timer goes
off, someone throws a brick through the front window, the roof falls off,
lightning strikes the tree out front which comes crashing through the
front door, and the carpet starts on fire. In this case, I would probably
fold it.

However, to avoid all of those things from happening, I just have to space
my cashouts further apart. That way they won't flip my doom switch.

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Date: 06 Dec 21:26:32
From: Follow
Subject: Re: Pokerstars - Beating The Game Program

On Dec 6 2006 12:43 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:

> But, let's say I'm at home playing online, and get dealt AA. At the same
> time, the phone rings, there's a knock at the door, the oven timer goes
> off, someone throws a brick through the front window, the roof falls off,
> lightning strikes the tree out front which comes crashing through the
> front door, and the carpet starts on fire. In this case, I would probably
> fold it.

I think that play is +EV in this spot. I would do the same.

Follow :)

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Date: 06 Dec 2006 11:30:33
From: GrouchySmurf1002
Subject: Re: Pokerstars - Beating The Game Program

On Dec 6 2006 9:00 AM, Turnstiles wrote:

So you're saying that you fold AT in EP because there's a good chance a
better hand is out there.

Interesting theory. Sklansky would be proud.

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Date: 06 Dec 2006 18:32:40
From: FellKnight
Subject: Re: Pokerstars - Beating The Game Program

On Dec 6 2006 12:30 PM, GrouchySmurf1002 wrote:

> On Dec 6 2006 9:00 AM, Turnstiles wrote:
>
> So you're saying that you fold AT in EP because there's a good chance a
> better hand is out there.
>
> Interesting theory. Sklansky would be proud.

Beat me to it.

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Date: 06 Dec 2006 11:58:14
From: MysteriAce
Subject: Re: Pokerstars - Beating The Game Program

On Dec 6 2006 12:30 PM, GrouchySmurf1002 wrote:

> On Dec 6 2006 9:00 AM, Turnstiles wrote:
>
> So you're saying that you fold AT in EP because there's a good chance a
> better hand is out there.
>
> Interesting theory. Sklansky would be proud.

You're forgetting the key difference between live poker and online poker.

In live poker they only deal out 1 ace, the rest stay in the stub. Live,
there is no chance that you will run into AJ/AQ/AK if you have AT, because
you have the only ace that's actually in play.

~ MysteriAce

"Ashes and diamonds
Foe and friend
We were all equal in the end"

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Date: 07 Dec 2006 12:43:25
From: Nick Wedd
Subject: Re: Pokerstars - Beating The Game Program

In message <1165413645.523722.198490@16g2000cwy.googlegroups.com >,
Turnstiles <turnstilesdan@yahoo.com > writes
>This is not a bad beat story but rather how I play my hands differently
>against the game program vs. being in a brick and mortar setting.
>Many times after winning a decent size pot the following hand will deal
>me A,10 either suited or unsuited from early position. Under a normal
>brick and mortar situation I would come in for an average raise or
>maybe limp in but through my past experience of playing online i ALWAYS
>muck this hand playing online because I know the game program is
>trapping me and sure enough when it goes to a showdown the other two
>players have either A,K or A,Q or a painted pair. I'm adapting my
>play to how the game program runs.
>Does anyone else feel agree or disagree with this? Do you have another
>situation where you do the same thing, playing differently online vs.
>brick and mortar with identical hands. Thanks, Dan

Don't forget that the same thing is happening to other people. So after
someone else has won a decent pot, he will be getting AT, and one or two
others will be getting AK, AQ etc. So if you are not one of these lucky
one or two, adjust your play, don't come in on KQ for instance.

Nick
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