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Date: 19 Dec 2006 22:37:12
From: Krayten
Subject: Play critique wanted
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Hi,
Been playing NLH for about 14 months and generally loving every minute
of it. I only play for play money at pokerroom.com as I don't think I'm
quite ready for playing with real money yet.
I've accumulated almost $200,000 in play chips and wondered if there
were any _really_good_ players* out there who, if they had a spare 10
minutes would play me and give me a quick assessment of my game, with a
view to knowing whether I could survive in real money games.
Am I being naive, is this something that I should expect to pay for?
Honestly don't know. Maybe this is a service that someone offers? Anyone
know? How much would it cost?
Anyhoo, just wondering and I'd be perfectly happy to bet/fold off a good
few thousand play chips for the privilege. I play most evenings through
the week.
Just a thought, please don't bite my head off if I've misjudged what I'm
asking - thank you.
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 16:26:37
From:
Subject: Re: Play critique wanted
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one last comment. if you don't mind, after you play for real money.
maybe after a couple days. write back and let us know if you think real
vs play is different and why.
... suddenly having a grade school english flashback... sorry. no
homework, just curious how the transition goes. good luck.
mark_s_nospam@entouch.net wrote:
> i got what you were after but i'm not sure it's really possible to to
> make an all-in decision (as one example) and truly take it seriously
> with play money. if you lose it, what do you really care... even if you
> consciously tell yourself to care. you obviously care because one bad
> experience prevented you from buying in again with real money. you mean
> you've never faced a similar situation when playing with play
> money...just called him, took a beating, and came back the next day
> with more play money?
>
> i don't know if real money changes the style of play for some people
> but it will certainly (or should) make you think twice sometimes.
> initially it will probably make you more passive. at least it did to
> me. even with good cards, unless you have the absolute nuts, when the
> pot gets big your heart will race. do you (still) get those feelings
> with play money?
>
>
> Krayten wrote:
> > Yes, that's exactly what I had meant, sorry if that wasn't as clear as
> > it might have been.
> >
> > I'm just sorting out a PokerStars account, will I be able to find you
> > (send-message-to-another-player) kind of thing, once I'm set up?
> >
> > Thanks again,
> >
> > Kray10
> >
> >
> > Alan Gilbert aka brewmaster wrote:
> > > I think what he wants is for one of us to play him for play money, and
> > > play it real, as if we're playing for bigger stakes, to judge his level of
> > > skill. Yeah yeah, play money is worthless, it isn't real, but I'm willing
> > > to do it, what the hell? You can't play it real even with play money?
> > >
> >
> >
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 16:09:34
From:
Subject: Re: Play critique wanted
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i got what you were after but i'm not sure it's really possible to to
make an all-in decision (as one example) and truly take it seriously
with play money. if you lose it, what do you really care... even if you
consciously tell yourself to care. you obviously care because one bad
experience prevented you from buying in again with real money. you mean
you've never faced a similar situation when playing with play
money...just called him, took a beating, and came back the next day
with more play money?
i don't know if real money changes the style of play for some people
but it will certainly (or should) make you think twice sometimes.
initially it will probably make you more passive. at least it did to
me. even with good cards, unless you have the absolute nuts, when the
pot gets big your heart will race. do you (still) get those feelings
with play money?
Krayten wrote:
> Yes, that's exactly what I had meant, sorry if that wasn't as clear as
> it might have been.
>
> I'm just sorting out a PokerStars account, will I be able to find you
> (send-message-to-another-player) kind of thing, once I'm set up?
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Kray10
>
>
> Alan Gilbert aka brewmaster wrote:
> > I think what he wants is for one of us to play him for play money, and
> > play it real, as if we're playing for bigger stakes, to judge his level of
> > skill. Yeah yeah, play money is worthless, it isn't real, but I'm willing
> > to do it, what the hell? You can't play it real even with play money?
> >
>
>
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 15:27:02
From:
Subject: Re: Play critique wanted
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you should be more than used to that by now playing with play money :)
in a tournament you're a bit stuck but if you start playing ring games
just get up and find a table that better suits you. will be hard to
test your skills with play money. i'm in a similar boat trying to find
the right micro limit where people will take it serious enough but i'm
not extending my limited bankroll.
.5/1 might be a bit high but if you can find someone to seriously give
you honest feedback for only the price of playing heads up in a .5/.10
(or more if you can afford it) setting i think that might be worth it.
just don't start w/ $100 at the table. how to find the right 'coach'
might be tough. if you're not sure yourself, all advice might sound
good.
might help to know if you consider yourself an aggressive player, etc.
and if you prefer tournaments or ring.
Krayten wrote:
> Maybe should add that I did play real money once, over about
> 5 days turned $20 into $42 then lost the whole damn lot when
> someone turned up at the table and went all in every hand.
>
> He broke three or four players, including me, then disappeared.
>
> Thats the kind of reason that I'm a little nervous about real money....
>
> Kray10
>
> PS-Though I am a bit wiser for it now.....;-)
>
>
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 23:45:22
From: Krayten
Subject: Re: Play critique wanted
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Hi Mark,
Some good points there.
I could certainly deposit enough to cover a 5c and 10c game, no
problem there, I just don't like the idea of being drawn into
an expensive situation.
I'm amazed at how different ppl describe play money games to real money
games. I enjoy the play money tables and (think) that I do reasonably
well ($200K)? I assume that real money has more tight/aggressive players?
I would certainly describe myself as tight/moderately aggressive and a
bit of a grinder ...but certainly not afraid to put the chips in when I
think I have the best hand. I've read lots and lots of books and tried
numerous techniques and now believe that I'm slowly setting into a form
which suits me and works quite well on play money tables.
Absolutely idolise Stu Ungar and love reading about some of his reads
and plays.
Regarding (playmoney) tournaments, reckon that I win the $100 and $500
sit and go's maybe 3-4 out of 10 times. Top 3 maybe 9 times out of 10.
I really want to get better and better.
Kray10
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 23:22:02
From: FISH
Subject: Re: Play critique wanted
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Poker for play money and poker for real money are as different as can be.
A winning play money player does not mean that same player has a better
chance of becoming a winning real money player.
With that said, I would suggest a real novice to start out playing for play
money, but just to understand the process of the game. Whose turn it is to
bet, what hands beat what, etc...
Once a player understands the very basics of the game, there really is no
longer an advantage to playing for play money (IMO anyway).
The only way to find out if you are good enough is to play for real money.
Just start off with an amount you would be willing (and can afford) to lose.
Most players will lose at first until they learn the "real money" game.
Just do your homework and enjoy the very different real money game.
Good luck to you...
"Krayten" <krayten@yahoo.co.uk > wrote in message
news:45885cba$0$15459$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
> Hi,
>
> Been playing NLH for about 14 months and generally loving every minute of
> it. I only play for play money at pokerroom.com as I don't think I'm
> quite ready for playing with real money yet.
>
> I've accumulated almost $200,000 in play chips and wondered if there were
> any _really_good_ players* out there who, if they had a spare 10 minutes
> would play me and give me a quick assessment of my game, with a
> view to knowing whether I could survive in real money games.
>
> Am I being naive, is this something that I should expect to pay for?
> Honestly don't know. Maybe this is a service that someone offers? Anyone
> know? How much would it cost?
>
> Anyhoo, just wondering and I'd be perfectly happy to bet/fold off a good
> few thousand play chips for the privilege. I play most evenings through
> the week.
>
> Just a thought, please don't bite my head off if I've misjudged what I'm
> asking - thank you.
>
> -----
> Kray10
>
> --
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>
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 15:08:07
From: pausem
Subject: Re: Play critique wanted
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Krayten wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Been playing NLH for about 14 months and generally loving every minute
> of it. I only play for play money at pokerroom.com as I don't think I'm
> quite ready for playing with real money yet.
>
Put in a few dollars and stick to low buy in (5$) SNGs to begin with.
Avoid XAQ Morphy though, he thinks it's ok to cheat in these though
because $5 is virtually play money for him.
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 15:51:38
From: Alan Gilbert aka brewmaster
Subject: Re: Play critique wanted
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I think what he wants is for one of us to play him for play money, and
play it real, as if we're playing for bigger stakes, to judge his level of
skill. Yeah yeah, play money is worthless, it isn't real, but I'm willing
to do it, what the hell? You can't play it real even with play money?
On Dec 19 2006 3:08 PM, pausem wrote:
> Krayten wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Been playing NLH for about 14 months and generally loving every minute
> > of it. I only play for play money at pokerroom.com as I don't think I'm
> > quite ready for playing with real money yet.
> >
>
> Put in a few dollars and stick to low buy in (5$) SNGs to begin with.
>
>
> Avoid XAQ Morphy though, he thinks it's ok to cheat in these though
> because $5 is virtually play money for him.
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 00:10:36
From: Krayten
Subject: Re: Play critique wanted
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Hi Alan,
I set up the pokerstars account my handle is kraiten.
Can you advise how to find you there/when you can play etc
Thanks loads,
Stuart
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Date: 21 Dec 2006 00:34:59
From: Palooka
Subject: Re: Play critique wanted
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"Krayten" <krayten@yahoo.co.uk > wrote in message
news:4588729f$0$15483$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
> Hi Alan,
>
> I set up the pokerstars account my handle is kraiten.
> Can you advise how to find you there/when you can play etc
>
> Thanks loads,
>
> Stuart
>
Off topic and just curious: Did you name yourself after the square headed
one on Red Dwarf, or was it something else?
Palooka
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 23:57:34
From: Krayten
Subject: Re: Play critique wanted
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Yes, that's exactly what I had meant, sorry if that wasn't as clear as
it might have been.
I'm just sorting out a PokerStars account, will I be able to find you
(send-message-to-another-player) kind of thing, once I'm set up?
Thanks again,
Kray10
Alan Gilbert aka brewmaster wrote:
> I think what he wants is for one of us to play him for play money, and
> play it real, as if we're playing for bigger stakes, to judge his level of
> skill. Yeah yeah, play money is worthless, it isn't real, but I'm willing
> to do it, what the hell? You can't play it real even with play money?
>
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 16:13:25
From: Alan Gilbert aka brewmaster
Subject: Re: Play critique wanted
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On Dec 19 2006 3:57 PM, Krayten wrote:
> Yes, that's exactly what I had meant, sorry if that wasn't as clear as
> it might have been.
>
> I'm just sorting out a PokerStars account, will I be able to find you
> (send-message-to-another-player) kind of thing, once I'm set up?
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Kray10
I'll be on later tonight probably. I'm "ACGilbert" on stars. You can do
the "find a player" thing. Also, if you use AIM, I'll be on there too
(AGilbert on AIM).
Hey, in fact, anybody here who I like can feel free to AIM me too.
>
>
> Alan Gilbert aka brewmaster wrote:
> > I think what he wants is for one of us to play him for play money, and
> > play it real, as if we're playing for bigger stakes, to judge his level of
> > skill. Yeah yeah, play money is worthless, it isn't real, but I'm willing
> > to do it, what the hell? You can't play it real even with play money?
> >
>
>
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 00:25:10
From: Krayten
Subject: Re: Play critique wanted
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Thanks, might not be tonight as it's now late here in the UK, but
will look forward to catching up with you soon - thanks for your time.
Kray10
>
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Date: 20 Dec 16:16:55
From: CHarrison100
Subject: Re: Play critique wanted
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I just signed up for a stars account too. I am no very good but i will play you
and we can critique each other.
Chris
On Dec 19 2006 6:57 PM, Krayten wrote:
> Yes, that's exactly what I had meant, sorry if that wasn't as clear as
> it might have been.
>
> I'm just sorting out a PokerStars account, will I be able to find you
> (send-message-to-another-player) kind of thing, once I'm set up?
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Kray10
>
>
> Alan Gilbert aka brewmaster wrote:
> > I think what he wants is for one of us to play him for play money, and
> > play it real, as if we're playing for bigger stakes, to judge his level of
> > skill. Yeah yeah, play money is worthless, it isn't real, but I'm willing
> > to do it, what the hell? You can't play it real even with play money?
> >
>
>
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 15:18:28
From: Raider Fan
Subject: Re: Play critique wanted
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On Dec 19 2006 5:08 PM, pausem wrote:
>
> Avoid XAQ Morphy though, he thinks it's ok to cheat in these though
> because $5 is virtually play money for him.
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 15:06:44
From: Alan Gilbert aka brewmaster
Subject: Re: Play critique wanted
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On Dec 19 2006 2:37 PM, Krayten wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Been playing NLH for about 14 months and generally loving every minute
> of it. I only play for play money at pokerroom.com as I don't think I'm
> quite ready for playing with real money yet.
>
> I've accumulated almost $200,000 in play chips and wondered if there
> were any _really_good_ players* out there who, if they had a spare 10
> minutes would play me and give me a quick assessment of my game, with a
> view to knowing whether I could survive in real money games.
>
> Am I being naive, is this something that I should expect to pay for?
> Honestly don't know. Maybe this is a service that someone offers? Anyone
> know? How much would it cost?
>
> Anyhoo, just wondering and I'd be perfectly happy to bet/fold off a good
> few thousand play chips for the privilege. I play most evenings through
> the week.
>
> Just a thought, please don't bite my head off if I've misjudged what I'm
> asking - thank you.
>
> -----
> Kray10
>
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I'll play you (on PStars). Don't know about the "Really good"
part...maybe really lucky. I did make a WSOP final table this year. The
really really good ones here are Tony Popejoy, Russ G, and a couple others.
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 00:09:31
From: Krayten
Subject: Re: Play critique wanted
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Account is set up, just did a search for player brewmaster but you were
not found.
Can you advise when would suit you?
Many thanks,
Stuart
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 16:54:12
From: Alan Gilbert aka brewmaster
Subject: Re: Play critique wanted
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On Dec 19 2006 4:09 PM, Krayten wrote:
> Account is set up, just did a search for player brewmaster but you were
> not found.
No, I'm not brewmaster there. I'm ACGilbert. It will be in a few hours,
I'm still at work.
>
> Can you advise when would suit you?
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Stuart
>
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 23:34:24
From: Krayten
Subject: Re: Play critique wanted
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Thank you Alan,
I will set up an account at PokerStars and watch out for your handle.
Appreciate the offer,
Kray10
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 22:55:59
From: Krayten
Subject: Re: Play critique wanted
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Maybe should add that I did play real money once, over about
5 days turned $20 into $42 then lost the whole damn lot when
someone turned up at the table and went all in every hand.
He broke three or four players, including me, then disappeared.
Thats the kind of reason that I'm a little nervous about real money....
Kray10
PS-Though I am a bit wiser for it now.....;-)
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Date: 19 Dec 22:43:24
From: Nick Wool
Subject: Re: Play critique wanted
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Well, the good news is that I am willing to play you, and I am always ready to
give advice, justified or not. The bad news is that I am not a 'really good
player'. Also, its difficult to really get in the swing of the game when cash
is not at stake...so how about 0.5/1 stakes, heads-up?
On Dec 19 2006 10:37 PM, Krayten wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Been playing NLH for about 14 months and generally loving every minute
> of it. I only play for play money at pokerroom.com as I don't think I'm
> quite ready for playing with real money yet.
>
> I've accumulated almost $200,000 in play chips and wondered if there
> were any _really_good_ players* out there who, if they had a spare 10
> minutes would play me and give me a quick assessment of my game, with a
> view to knowing whether I could survive in real money games.
>
> Am I being naive, is this something that I should expect to pay for?
> Honestly don't know. Maybe this is a service that someone offers? Anyone
> know? How much would it cost?
>
> Anyhoo, just wondering and I'd be perfectly happy to bet/fold off a good
> few thousand play chips for the privilege. I play most evenings through
> the week.
>
> Just a thought, please don't bite my head off if I've misjudged what I'm
> asking - thank you.
>
> -----
> Kray10
>
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 22:46:57
From: Krayten
Subject: Re: Play critique wanted
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Thanks for replying, but dont want to play real money.
Happy Christmas!
Kray10
Nick Wool wrote:
> Well, the good news is that I am willing to play you, and I am always ready to
> give advice, justified or not. The bad news is that I am not a 'really good
> player'. Also, its difficult to really get in the swing of the game when cash
> is not at stake...so how about 0.5/1 stakes, heads-up?
>
> On Dec 19 2006 10:37 PM, Krayten wrote:
>
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Been playing NLH for about 14 months and generally loving every minute
>>of it. I only play for play money at pokerroom.com as I don't think I'm
>>quite ready for playing with real money yet.
>>
>>I've accumulated almost $200,000 in play chips and wondered if there
>>were any _really_good_ players* out there who, if they had a spare 10
>>minutes would play me and give me a quick assessment of my game, with a
>>view to knowing whether I could survive in real money games.
>>
>>Am I being naive, is this something that I should expect to pay for?
>>Honestly don't know. Maybe this is a service that someone offers? Anyone
>>know? How much would it cost?
>>
>>Anyhoo, just wondering and I'd be perfectly happy to bet/fold off a good
>>few thousand play chips for the privilege. I play most evenings through
>>the week.
>>
>>Just a thought, please don't bite my head off if I've misjudged what I'm
>>asking - thank you.
>>
>>-----
>>Kray10
>>
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>
>
>
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Date: 20 Dec 14:35:46
From: Teabagger
Subject: Re: Play critique wanted
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Only 1 way to find out. Play for cash, micro limit, or $1 STTs. If you check
this board, there are plenty of offers for free money to join a site. I got $25
from a site, and ran it up to $10K. That's how I found out.
You will need to adapt your game to tighter tables.
On Dec 19 2006 5:37 PM, Krayten wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Been playing NLH for about 14 months and generally loving every minute
> of it. I only play for play money at pokerroom.com as I don't think I'm
> quite ready for playing with real money yet.
>
> I've accumulated almost $200,000 in play chips and wondered if there
> were any _really_good_ players* out there who, if they had a spare 10
> minutes would play me and give me a quick assessment of my game, with a
> view to knowing whether I could survive in real money games.
>
> Am I being naive, is this something that I should expect to pay for?
> Honestly don't know. Maybe this is a service that someone offers? Anyone
> know? How much would it cost?
>
> Anyhoo, just wondering and I'd be perfectly happy to bet/fold off a good
> few thousand play chips for the privilege. I play most evenings through
> the week.
>
> Just a thought, please don't bite my head off if I've misjudged what I'm
> asking - thank you.
>
> -----
> Kray10
>
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