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Date: 02 Dec 2006 11:21:08
From: Raider Fan
Subject: OT: Where are the college kids?
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The situation in Iraq is just as ridiculous as our position in Vietnam was
in the 60's and 70's. Where are the kids screaming to get us out of
there? I'll tell you where. They're sitting on their asses playing their
PS2's and looking at porn on the internet. They're fucking lazy and they
don't give a shit as long as they're not over there.
America is going down the toilet. Education is a joke. Our jobs are
going overseas where employees are happy to do the job better for 1/5 the
cost. Our future generation just gets lazier and more apathetic.
I have to give credit to our friends from Mexico. At least they had the
balls and the initiative to get out and let their voices be heard. God
forbid our college kids do something like that.
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Date: 02 Dec 2006 18:40:08
From: Richard52
Subject: Re: OT: Where are the college kids?
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Raider Fan wrote:
> The situation in Iraq is just as ridiculous as our position in Vietnam was
> in the 60's and 70's. Where are the kids screaming to get us out of
> there? I'll tell you where. They're sitting on their asses playing their
> PS2's and looking at porn on the internet. They're fucking lazy and they
> don't give a shit as long as they're not over there.
>
Wow, 3K dead and you compare it to Vietnam where we lost 58K? The US
loses 41K people every year to auto accidents. I'm not defending our
success or lack thereof over there but if every death on the road was
reported on TV everyday you would think our highways was guaranteed
suicide..
> I have to give credit to our friends from Mexico. At least they had the
> balls and the initiative to get out and let their voices be heard. God
> forbid our college kids do something like that.
Is this a troll? Mexico is a freaking mess. The murder rate in Mexico
is 13.04 per 100K vs the US's 5.62 per 100K. There is next to no
opportunity down there and the governement is physically assulting each
other... nevermind, I'm responding to a troll.
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Date: 03 Dec
From: O-PGManager
Subject: Re: OT: Where are the college kids?
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> Wow, 3K dead and you compare it to Vietnam where we lost 58K? The US
> loses 41K people every year to auto accidents. I'm not defending our
> success or lack thereof over there but if every death on the road was
> reported on TV everyday you would think our highways was guaranteed
> suicide..
You're right, there's only 3k dead. Trivial. It's just the media making us
think it's a big deal. There's ~150k troops in Iraq compared to how many highway
drivers?
And don't compare the death rates in Vietnam v. Iraq in relation to our time
spent there. Oh and don't take into account the thousands of Iraq war injuries
that would've been deaths without modern medicine and technology.
No there's clearly no comparing the two.
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Date: 02 Dec 2006 17:43:13
From: MarlaSinger
Subject: Re: OT: Where are the college kids?
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On Dec 2 2006 3:21 PM, Raider Fan wrote:
> The situation in Iraq is just as ridiculous as our position in Vietnam was
> in the 60's and 70's. Where are the kids screaming to get us out of
> there? I'll tell you where. They're sitting on their asses playing their
> PS2's and looking at porn on the internet. They're fucking lazy and they
> don't give a shit as long as they're not over there.
I've been led to believe that that has much to do with the fact that the
Vietnam conflict was related daily by the medium of television.
Since there is no draft, maybe the college kids figure there are 'just
enough' people who do want to be there. No problems then.
> America is going down the toilet. Education is a joke. Our jobs are
> going overseas where employees are happy to do the job better for 1/5 the
> cost. Our future generation just gets lazier and more apathetic.
Could it be that this is the grand scheme? This entire paragraph can be
taken to mean that Americans will be easier to control.
> I have to give credit to our friends from Mexico. At least they had the
> balls and the initiative to get out and let their voices be heard. God
> forbid our college kids do something like that.
What does letting your voice be heard in the USA do nowadays?
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Date: 02 Dec 2006 15:44:46
From: mo_charles
Subject: Re: OT: Where are the college kids?
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> The situation in Iraq is just as ridiculous as our position in Vietnam was
> in the 60's and 70's. Where are the kids screaming to get us out of
> there? I'll tell you where.
i don't need you to tell me where the fuggin' college kids are:
harvard kids are busy protesting the low wages their parents pay to highly
skilled janitors.
students at brown are defending oragami bird making as a "major".
MIT kids are in headlocks (see below).
SEC students are too busy crushing keystone cans on their foreheads.
Big Ten kids are fucking, defecating, and pissing.
AND......
university of chicago kids are busy studying how to conquer the goddamn
world!
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Date: 02 Dec 2006 15:03:19
From: bo dark
Subject: Re: OT: Where are the college kids?
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Paul Popinjay wrote:
> "bo dark" <tx1456@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1165089824.630180.64420@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >
>
> >
> > your making the assumption all college kids have the same view of whats
> > going on in iraq,i agree with you about most of the rest.
> > maybe a good domestic war would sort things out since everybody's tired
> > of each others shit,it's inevitable.
> >
>
> There most certainly WILL be a 'domestic war' someday. And I'll tellya
> something. I ain't giving up America without a fight. And another thing, I
> ain't going out alone. When the shit hits the fan, I'd sure like to know
> where I could find OrangeSFO.
>
> -Paul Popinjay
i wouldn't want to see it,but i think your right,trying to appease
every new immigrant groups culture while the dominant culture suffers
creates a balkanization,also trying to force people to give up beliefs
they hold strongly that don't inhibit anyone else's freedom creates
resentment and bitterness.
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Date: 03 Dec 2006 00:50:55
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: OT: Where are the college kids?
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"bo dark" <tx1456@yahoo.com > wrote in message
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> i wouldn't want to see it,but i think your right,trying to appease
> every new immigrant groups culture while the dominant culture suffers
> creates a balkanization,also trying to force people to give up beliefs
> they hold strongly that don't inhibit anyone else's freedom creates
> resentment and bitterness.
>
Well, I'm sure every other country that saw itself slowly falling into chaos
and socialism probably had citizens fighting against each other. Of course,
the typical Press trick is to paint the good people as some kinda
'mercenaries', 'extremists', right-wing 'death squads', etc. When in
reality it is the good people who are merely defending their property from
being taken by the invading hordes. Another Press trick is to paint the
invaders, the commie bastards, as merely 'rebels' or some such description.
When in reality, they are fully functioning communist terrorists armed with
Soviet and Chinese weapons, trained by Cubans, etc. That's the way the
Press works. This is why I always say, don't believe anything in the Press
until it is officially denied.
Given the rate of decline our country is witnessing, I see no way we are
going to avoid internal conflicts. As you said, maybe we need a 'domestic
war' to shake things up a bit. I agree. There must be patriotic squads who
know how to deal with the subversives like OrangeSFO, Man Beaten by Jacks,
BillB, and the rest of the traitors. These squads will have a way of making
the problem dissappear.
VIVE PINOCHET!!!!!!
-Paul Popinjay
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Date: 02 Dec 2006 17:00:34
From: A Man Beaten by Jacks
Subject: Re: OT: Where are the college kids?
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On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 11:21:08 -0800, "Raider Fan"
<raidersgotscrewed1@hotmail.com > wrote:
>The situation in Iraq is just as ridiculous as our position in Vietnam was
>in the 60's and 70's. Where are the kids screaming to get us out of
>there? I'll tell you where. They're sitting on their asses playing their
>PS2's and looking at porn on the internet. They're fucking lazy and they
>don't give a shit as long as they're not over there.
There's no draft, so there's no reason for them to care. If they're in college,
almost by definition, they're also probably not in a situation where they'd
be forced by economic necessity to join up. Plus all the other stuff you
said.
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Date: 02 Dec 2006 12:03:44
From: bo dark
Subject: Re: OT: Where are the college kids?
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Raider Fan wrote:
> The situation in Iraq is just as ridiculous as our position in Vietnam was
> in the 60's and 70's. Where are the kids screaming to get us out of
> there? I'll tell you where. They're sitting on their asses playing their
> PS2's and looking at porn on the internet. They're fucking lazy and they
> don't give a shit as long as they're not over there.
>
> America is going down the toilet. Education is a joke. Our jobs are
> going overseas where employees are happy to do the job better for 1/5 the
> cost. Our future generation just gets lazier and more apathetic.
>
> I have to give credit to our friends from Mexico. At least they had the
> balls and the initiative to get out and let their voices be heard. God
> forbid our college kids do something like that.
>
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your making the assumption all college kids have the same view of whats
going on in iraq,i agree with you about most of the rest.
maybe a good domestic war would sort things out since everybody's tired
of each others shit,it's inevitable.
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Date: 02 Dec 2006 21:07:32
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: OT: Where are the college kids?
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"bo dark" <tx1456@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1165089824.630180.64420@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
>
> your making the assumption all college kids have the same view of whats
> going on in iraq,i agree with you about most of the rest.
> maybe a good domestic war would sort things out since everybody's tired
> of each others shit,it's inevitable.
>
There most certainly WILL be a 'domestic war' someday. And I'll tellya
something. I ain't giving up America without a fight. And another thing, I
ain't going out alone. When the shit hits the fan, I'd sure like to know
where I could find OrangeSFO.
-Paul Popinjay
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Date: 02 Dec 2006 12:24:12
From: bo dark
Subject: Re: OT: Where are the college kids?
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O-PGManager wrote:
> > your making the assumption all college kids have the same view of whats
> > going on in iraq,
>
>
>
> Their views would be a lot more similar if it was THEIR ass on the line.
>
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maybe,but the military is all volunteer and they seem to be meeting
their recruiting quotas,my vietnam combat vet brother counseled his son
not to join the army,he did anyway while the war was already on.he
spent a year in iraq,he's back in germany.
my dad retired from the air force,he joined the army/air corp during
ww2,he tried to talk my vietnam vet brother out of joining the army,he
did so anyway.
are you saying that if it's your ass that's on the line you should
never go to war,what ever the reason,people have different convictions
and worldviews.
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Date: 02 Dec 20:45:21
From: O-PGManager
Subject: Re: OT: Where are the college kids?
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> are you saying that if it's your ass that's on the line you should
> never go to war,
No I'm saying: Their views would be a lot more similar if it was THEIR ass on
the line.
It's a lot easier to swallow the spoonfed Bush propaganda about WMDs, mushroom
clouds, spreading democracy and on and on if you'll never have to put your ass
on the line.
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Date: 02 Dec 20:05:38
From: O-PGManager
Subject: Re: OT: Where are the college kids?
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> your making the assumption all college kids have the same view of whats
> going on in iraq,
Their views would be a lot more similar if it was THEIR ass on the line.
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Date: 02 Dec 2006 11:43:19
From:
Subject: Re: OT: Where are the college kids?
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Raider Fan wrote:
> The situation in Iraq is just as ridiculous as our position in Vietnam was
> in the 60's and 70's. Where are the kids screaming to get us out of
> there? I'll tell you where. They're sitting on their asses playing their
> PS2's and looking at porn on the internet. They're fucking lazy and they
> don't give a shit as long as they're not over there.
>
> America is going down the toilet. Education is a joke. Our jobs are
> going overseas where employees are happy to do the job better for 1/5 the
> cost. Our future generation just gets lazier and more apathetic.
>
> I have to give credit to our friends from Mexico. At least they had the
> balls and the initiative to get out and let their voices be heard. God
> forbid our college kids do something like that.
>
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Bring back the draft and they'll start protesting again, but unless it
impacts them personally I doubt they'll have incentive to participate.
America is after all about the individual rather then the collective.
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Date: 02 Dec 2006 11:39:37
From: Olemite
Subject: Re: OT: Where are the college kids?
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American college kids are working their way through college. Foreign
college kids get government grants for college so they are busy
plotting terrorist attacks or interviewing for jobs in their native
country.
I'm just kidding of course, but the obvious answer is right in front of
you if you look hard enough.
They didn't want to get drafted in the 60's. There's no draft now so
there's no care.
Ole
Raider Fan wrote:
> The situation in Iraq is just as ridiculous as our position in Vietnam was
> in the 60's and 70's. Where are the kids screaming to get us out of
> there? I'll tell you where. They're sitting on their asses playing their
> PS2's and looking at porn on the internet. They're fucking lazy and they
> don't give a shit as long as they're not over there.
>
> America is going down the toilet. Education is a joke. Our jobs are
> going overseas where employees are happy to do the job better for 1/5 the
> cost. Our future generation just gets lazier and more apathetic.
>
> I have to give credit to our friends from Mexico. At least they had the
> balls and the initiative to get out and let their voices be heard. God
> forbid our college kids do something like that.
>
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Date: 03 Dec 2006 01:08:40
From: Tate and Lyle
Subject: Re: OT: Where are the college kids?
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"Olemite" <msolson14@yahoo.com > wrote in message
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> American college kids are working their way through college. Foreign
> college kids get government grants for college so they are busy
> plotting terrorist attacks or interviewing for jobs in their native
> country.
>
> I'm just kidding of course, but the obvious answer is right in front of
> you if you look hard enough.
>
> They didn't want to get drafted in the 60's. There's no draft now so
> there's no care.
Yea but what happens when you start running out of troops,there will need
to be a draft then?
I think you have already lost 3 thousand dead and there are 46,000
casualties which is a fairly big proportion of theoverall number of troops.
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Date: 04 Dec 2006 07:20:42
From: Aodhan
Subject: Re: OT: Where are the college kids?
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> Yea but what happens when you start running out of troops,there will need
> to be a draft then?
> I think you have already lost 3 thousand dead and there are 46,000
> casualties which is a fairly big proportion of theoverall number of troops.
Really?
Approximately 1,526,000 members of the US Militaries on active duty
currently. (Marines, Navy, Air Force and Army), with another 500,000 or so
in the Reserves or Army National Guard.
That's not even 1% dead, and only about 3% if you include all the wounded.
Hardly a big proportion.
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Date: 04 Dec 2006 18:17:15
From: Tate and Lyle
Subject: Re: OT: Where are the college kids?
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"Aodhan" <a169b@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
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>> Yea but what happens when you start running out of troops,there will need
>> to be a draft then?
>> I think you have already lost 3 thousand dead and there are 46,000
>> casualties which is a fairly big proportion of theoverall number of
>> troops.
>
> Really?
>
> Approximately 1,526,000 members of the US Militaries on active duty
> currently. (Marines, Navy, Air Force and Army), with another 500,000 or so
> in the Reserves or Army National Guard.
>
> That's not even 1% dead, and only about 3% if you include all the wounded.
> Hardly a big proportion.
>
It's 10% of the army which is probably 20-30% of part of the army
that actually does anyfighting, maybe more.
Try sailing a battleship through the streets of Baghdad.
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Date: 04 Dec 2006 10:50:15
From: bjgkaraoke@aol.com
Subject: Re: OT: Where are the college kids?
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Aodhan wrote:
> > Yea but what happens when you start running out of troops,there will need
> > to be a draft then?
> > I think you have already lost 3 thousand dead and there are 46,000
> > casualties which is a fairly big proportion of theoverall number of troops.
>
> Really?
>
> Approximately 1,526,000 members of the US Militaries on active duty
> currently. (Marines, Navy, Air Force and Army), with another 500,000 or so
> in the Reserves or Army National Guard.
>
> That's not even 1% dead, and only about 3% if you include all the wounded.
> Hardly a big proportion.
>
> Aodhan
That's not even 1% dead, and only about 3% if you include all the
wounded.
> Hardly a big proportion.
>
> Aodhan
Yeah, that's hardly anything, unless it's one of yours. It's so easy
for most people in this country to be objective about the war
casualities, since they haven't even been affected at all. In fact,
the nobody has been asked to sacrifice anything, except for the troops
and their family members. Many don't even know a war is being waged.
Barbara Gallamore
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Date: 04 Dec 2006 11:26:07
From: mo_charles
Subject: Re: OT: Where are the college kids?
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> >That's not even 1% dead, and only about 3% if you include all the wounded.
> >Hardly a big proportion.
>
> Yeah, that's hardly anything, unless it's one of yours. It's so easy
> for most people in this country to be objective about the war
> casualities, since they haven't even been affected at all. In fact,
> the nobody has been asked to sacrifice anything, except for the troops
> and their family members. Many don't even know a war is being waged.
every american pays the wages of our soldiers, and there isn't a soldier
among them didn't understand why they were learning to fire guns, toss
grenades, and drive tanks. how many americans were impaled by their own
picket fences last year? curious that you don't care.
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Date: 04 Dec 2006 19:46:05
From: Tate and Lyle
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"mo_charles" <harrybalzer@gmail.com > wrote in message
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>> >That's not even 1% dead, and only about 3% if you include all the
>> >wounded.
>> >Hardly a big proportion.
>>
>> Yeah, that's hardly anything, unless it's one of yours. It's so easy
>> for most people in this country to be objective about the war
>> casualities, since they haven't even been affected at all. In fact,
>> the nobody has been asked to sacrifice anything, except for the troops
>> and their family members. Many don't even know a war is being waged.
>
> every american pays the wages of our soldiers, and there isn't a soldier
> among them didn't understand why they were learning to fire guns, toss
> grenades, and drive tanks. how many americans were impaled by their own
> picket fences last year? curious that you don't care.
Most are niave youngsters conned into the forces on false promises and lies.
Of course Bushes children are not fighting for their country are they, poor
kids dying to keep rich kids rich.
>
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Date: 04 Dec 2006 12:54:15
From: mo_charles
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> >> Yeah, that's hardly anything, unless it's one of yours. It's so easy
> >> for most people in this country to be objective about the war
> >> casualities, since they haven't even been affected at all. In fact,
> >> the nobody has been asked to sacrifice anything, except for the troops
> >> and their family members. Many don't even know a war is being waged.
> >
> > every american pays the wages of our soldiers, and there isn't a soldier
> > among them didn't understand why they were learning to fire guns, toss
> > grenades, and drive tanks. how many americans were impaled by their own
> > picket fences last year? curious that you don't care.
>
> Most are niave youngsters conned into the forces on false promises and lies.
"son, that gun you're lernin' to shoot......you'll never have to use it."
> Of course Bushes children are not fighting for their country are they, poor
> kids dying to keep rich kids rich.
bush's kids don't fight because they didn't volunteer to. surely, even
democrats are smart enough to deduce what the military does.
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Date: 05 Dec 2006 03:09:26
From: Tate and Lyle
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"mo_charles" <harrybalzer@gmail.com > wrote in message
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>> >> Yeah, that's hardly anything, unless it's one of yours. It's so easy
>> >> for most people in this country to be objective about the war
>> >> casualities, since they haven't even been affected at all. In fact,
>> >> the nobody has been asked to sacrifice anything, except for the troops
>> >> and their family members. Many don't even know a war is being waged.
>> >
>> > every american pays the wages of our soldiers, and there isn't a
>> > soldier
>> > among them didn't understand why they were learning to fire guns, toss
>> > grenades, and drive tanks. how many americans were impaled by their
>> > own
>> > picket fences last year? curious that you don't care.
>>
>> Most are niave youngsters conned into the forces on false promises and
>> lies.
>
> "son, that gun you're lernin' to shoot......you'll never have to use it."
>
>> Of course Bushes children are not fighting for their country are they,
>> poor
>> kids dying to keep rich kids rich.
>
> bush's kids don't fight because they didn't volunteer to. surely, even
> democrats are smart enough to deduce what the military does.
So they are cowards? Or just not poor enough to have to gamble with their
lives
to have any kind of life.
Anyway most of them are smart enough to realise that quickest way to get out
of Iraq
is to lose the war and they have already acomplished that. Even dumbo Bush
has ben told
that by his puppet masters.
No body is going to fight for a system which aint worth fighting for, which
is why the Tabiban et al
are whipping your asses.
The kids who 'volunteered' are notfighting either, they don't give afuck
about bushes war,
they are just doingwhatever it takes to say alive.
The war is over and the USA lost both.
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Date: 05 Dec 2006 02:38:51
From: mo_charles
Subject: Re: OT: Where are the college kids?
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> > bush's kids don't fight because they didn't volunteer to. surely, even
> > democrats are smart enough to deduce what the military does.
>
> So they are cowards? Or just not poor enough to have to gamble with their
> lives
> to have any kind of life.
> Anyway most of them are smart enough to realise that quickest way to get out
> of Iraq
> is to lose the war and they have already acomplished that. Even dumbo Bush
> has ben told
> that by his puppet masters.
> No body is going to fight for a system which aint worth fighting for, which
> is why the Tabiban et al
> are whipping your asses.
> The kids who 'volunteered' are notfighting either, they don't give afuck
> about bushes war,
> they are just doingwhatever it takes to say alive.
> The war is over and the USA lost both.
if i'd realized you were prepubescent, i wouldn't have bothered. ta-ta!
mo_charles
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Date: 04 Dec 2006 13:04:14
From: EthiopianEddy
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Raider Fan wrote:
> The situation in Iraq is just as ridiculous as our position in Vietnam was
> in the 60's and 70's. Where are the kids screaming to get us out of
> there? I'll tell you where. They're sitting on their asses playing their
> PS2's and looking at porn on the internet. They're fucking lazy and they
> don't give a shit as long as they're not over there.
>
> America is going down the toilet. Education is a joke. Our jobs are
> going overseas where employees are happy to do the job better for 1/5 the
> cost. Our future generation just gets lazier and more apathetic.
>
> I have to give credit to our friends from Mexico. At least they had the
> balls and the initiative to get out and let their voices be heard. God
> forbid our college kids do something like that.
>
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Probably because we're a cynical/smarter generation that knows whining
about the government is a fruitless endeavor.
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Date: 04 Dec 2006 12:02:49
From: WuzYoungOnceToo
Subject: Re: OT: Where are the college kids?
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On Dec 4, 12:50 pm, "bjgkara...@aol.com" <bjgkara...@aol.com > wrote:
>
> Yeah, that's hardly anything, unless it's one of yours.
I knew we could count on you for a purely emotional reaction utterly
devoid of intellectual content, or even the slightest hint of
understanding of what you were responding to. If one of my children
succumbed to a fatal disease it would be a huge deal to me even if it
was so rare that it only 1 out of 1 billion people worldwide contracted
it each year. Would you then characterize it as a major global health
threat and liken it to HIV, heart disease, cancer, et al?
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Date: 05 Dec 2006 07:23:54
From: WuzYoungOnceToo
Subject: Re: OT: Where are the college kids?
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On Dec 4, 9:09 pm, "Tate and Lyle" <m...@invalid.net > wrote:
>
> So they are cowards? Or just not poor enough to have to gamble with their
> lives
> to have any kind of life.
> Anyway most of them are smart enough to realise that quickest way to get out
> of Iraq
> is to lose the war and they have already acomplished that. Even dumbo Bush
> has ben told
> that by his puppet masters.
> No body is going to fight for a system which aint worth fighting for, which
> is why the Tabiban et al
> are whipping your asses.
> The kids who 'volunteered' are notfighting either, they don't give afuck
> about bushes war,
> they are just doingwhatever it takes to say alive.
> The war is over and the USA lost both.
The ignorance of your ramblings aside...have you ever considered a
remedial English Composition course? It will introduce you to all
sorts of concepts that will make your nonsense at least legible.
Things like spaces between all words. Oh, and what the hell are you
using to compose your posts? Random Linebreaks 1.0?
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