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Date: 14 Dec 2006 10:41:55
From: Major Killswitch
Subject: OT: Pro-Life Hypocrisy
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What I find funny about pro-life folks who claim that abortion is murder
is that I have never heard of anyone holding a funeral after a miscarriage.
Why would you so vehemently argue that abortion is murder of a human
being, but neglect to give your own child proper honors upon death?
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Date: 14 Dec 2006 11:18:36
From: Omaha8_Beach
Subject: Re: OT: Pro-Life Hypocrisy
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Major Killswitch wrote:
>
> So people who are cremated, or who drown at sea, or whose bodies are not
> recovered after dying in combat don't get funerals, either? There has to
> be a body to give a person proper honors?
>
> *Major Killswitch*
I'd say to have a funeral service, there needs to be one of two things
- either 1. a body to bury or 2. a deceased person that someone
met/saw/knew, etc. (especially if the deceased has a name and it is
known) There may be some exceptions, but I can't think of any. When
there is a miscarriage there really isn't any of these things. Some
people do have services after stillbirth though, but in this case there
is a body to bury and sometimes a name as well.
Ken
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Date: 14 Dec 2006 13:08:42
From: Peg Smith
Subject: Re: OT: Pro-Life Hypocrisy
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"Major Killswitch" <ae40b09@webnntp.invalid > wrote:
>What I find funny about pro-life folks who claim that abortion is murder
>is that I have never heard of anyone holding a funeral after a miscarriage.
The hypocrisy I've noticed is that most will grant an exemption for
rape or incest.
Peg
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Date: 15 Dec
From: Necron99
Subject: Re: OT: Pro-Life Hypocrisy
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On Dec 15 2006 6:08 AM, Peg Smith wrote:
> The hypocrisy I've noticed is that most will grant an exemption for
> rape or incest.
>
> Peg
Or where the mothers life is in danger.
People have been charged with murder for inflicting and injury that kills the
baby but does not kill the mother.
Carve out's make the world go round.
I have wondered how it would be if we all lived under a system of absolutes....
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Date: 14 Dec 2006 18:23:28
From: FL Turbo
Subject: Re: OT: Pro-Life Hypocrisy
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On Fri, 15 Dec 06 0:12:51 GMT, Necron99 <necronx99@gmail.com > wrote:
>On Dec 15 2006 6:08 AM, Peg Smith wrote:
>
>> The hypocrisy I've noticed is that most will grant an exemption for
>> rape or incest.
>>
>> Peg
>
>Or where the mothers life is in danger.
>People have been charged with murder for inflicting and injury that kills the
>baby but does not kill the mother.
>
>Carve out's make the world go round.
>I have wondered how it would be if we all lived under a system of absolutes....
>
There is no need to wonder.
Simply look at countries ruled by Islam.
Saudia Arabia for a good example.
A thief?
Cut his hand off.
A murder?
Cut his head off.
Simple.
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Date: 14 Dec 2006 12:50:24
From: FL Turbo
Subject: Re: OT: Pro-Life Hypocrisy
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On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:41:55 -0800, "Major Killswitch"
<ae40b09@webnntp.invalid > wrote:
>What I find funny about pro-life folks who claim that abortion is murder
>is that I have never heard of anyone holding a funeral after a miscarriage.
>
My SWAG is that a miscarriage doesn't involve an abortionist
intervening by actively going in and pulling out the "fetus" and
throwing it into a waste container.
I could be wrong, though.
>Why would you so vehemently argue that abortion is murder of a human
>being, but neglect to give your own child proper honors upon death?
>
I'll leave you to ponder over that one.
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Date: 14 Dec 2006 10:59:23
From: Major Killswitch
Subject: Re: OT: Pro-Life Hypocrisy
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On Dec 14 2006 10:50 AM, FL Turbo wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:41:55 -0800, "Major Killswitch"
> <ae40b09@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>
> >What I find funny about pro-life folks who claim that abortion is murder
> >is that I have never heard of anyone holding a funeral after a miscarriage.
> >
>
> My SWAG is that a miscarriage doesn't involve an abortionist
> intervening by actively going in and pulling out the "fetus" and
> throwing it into a waste container.
>
> I could be wrong, though.
Either way, a child has died. You would not give your child a funeral?
What kind of sicko are you?
> >Why would you so vehemently argue that abortion is murder of a human
> >being, but neglect to give your own child proper honors upon death?
> >
>
> I'll leave you to ponder over that one.
You should do the pondering on this one.
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Date: 14 Dec 2006 13:15:17
From: FL Turbo
Subject: Re: OT: Pro-Life Hypocrisy
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On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:59:23 -0800, "Major Killswitch"
<ae40b09@webnntp.invalid > wrote:
>On Dec 14 2006 10:50 AM, FL Turbo wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:41:55 -0800, "Major Killswitch"
>> <ae40b09@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> >What I find funny about pro-life folks who claim that abortion is murder
>> >is that I have never heard of anyone holding a funeral after a miscarriage.
>> >
>>
>> My SWAG is that a miscarriage doesn't involve an abortionist
>> intervening by actively going in and pulling out the "fetus" and
>> throwing it into a waste container.
>>
>> I could be wrong, though.
>
>Either way, a child has died. You would not give your child a funeral?
>What kind of sicko are you?
>
If I sent a pregnant woman to an abortionist, I might not want to even
think about that.
Don't lie to me.
You don't even want to think about that.
>> >Why would you so vehemently argue that abortion is murder of a human
>> >being, but neglect to give your own child proper honors upon death?
>> >
>>
Pffft
Your little straw man doesn't even rate a moment of thought.
>> I'll leave you to ponder over that one.
>
>You should do the pondering on this one.
>
>*Major Killswitch*
>
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Date: 14 Dec 2006 10:49:25
From: Omaha8_Beach
Subject: Re: OT: Pro-Life Hypocrisy
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Major Killswitch wrote:
> What I find funny about pro-life folks who claim that abortion is murder
> is that I have never heard of anyone holding a funeral after a miscarriage.
>
> Why would you so vehemently argue that abortion is murder of a human
> being, but neglect to give your own child proper honors upon death?
Um, my guess is because there usually is no body to bury.
Ken
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Date: 14 Dec 2006 10:58:22
From: Major Killswitch
Subject: Re: OT: Pro-Life Hypocrisy
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On Dec 14 2006 10:49 AM, Omaha8_Beach wrote:
> Major Killswitch wrote:
> > What I find funny about pro-life folks who claim that abortion is murder
> > is that I have never heard of anyone holding a funeral after a miscarriage.
> >
> > Why would you so vehemently argue that abortion is murder of a human
> > being, but neglect to give your own child proper honors upon death?
>
> Um, my guess is because there usually is no body to bury.
>
> Ken
So people who are cremated, or who drown at sea, or whose bodies are not
recovered after dying in combat don't get funerals, either? There has to
be a body to give a person proper honors?
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Date: 14 Dec 2006 23:03:44
From: bo dark
Subject: Re: OT: Pro-Life Hypocrisy
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ShuffletownKid wrote:
> "OrangeSFO" <intangible103@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1166133118.551013.149310@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > Abortion have been part of human culture for at least 5,000 years
> >
> >
> > If it offends your "God" so much, why hasn't he put a stop to it?
> >
>
> God is pro abortion. Miscarriages are acts of God.
ford makes cars,are they respondsible for accidents involving fords?
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Date: 15 Dec 2006 02:33:11
From: ShuffletownKid
Subject: Re: OT: Pro-Life Hypocrisy
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"bo dark" <tx1456@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1166166224.818667.256810@t46g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> ShuffletownKid wrote:
>> "OrangeSFO" <intangible103@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1166133118.551013.149310@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> > Abortion have been part of human culture for at least 5,000 years
>> >
>> >
>> > If it offends your "God" so much, why hasn't he put a stop to it?
>> >
>>
>> God is pro abortion. Miscarriages are acts of God.
>
>
> ford makes cars,are they respondsible for accidents involving fords?
>
Only if baby Fords are a result.
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Date: 14 Dec 2006 15:13:04
From:
Subject: Re: OT: Pro-Life Hypocrisy
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The folks willing to demand the death penatly for any doctor and woman
invovled in an abortion might think that abortion is murder. The rest
of the pro-life crowd? Not so much.
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Date: 14 Dec 2006 13:51:58
From: OrangeSFO
Subject: Re: OT: Pro-Life Hypocrisy
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Abortion have been part of human culture for at least 5,000 years
If it offends your "God" so much, why hasn't he put a stop to it?
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Date: 15 Dec 2006 01:42:23
From: ShuffletownKid
Subject: Re: OT: Pro-Life Hypocrisy
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"OrangeSFO" <intangible103@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1166133118.551013.149310@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Abortion have been part of human culture for at least 5,000 years
>
>
> If it offends your "God" so much, why hasn't he put a stop to it?
>
God is pro abortion. Miscarriages are acts of God.
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Date: 15 Dec
From: comfail
Subject: Re: OT: Pro-Life Hypocrisy
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On Dec 14 2006 1:51 PM, OrangeSFO wrote:
> Abortion have been part of human culture for at least 5,000 years
>
>
> If it offends your "God" so much, why hasn't he put a stop to it?
Because all primitive societies kill their young. We're just lucky we don't eat
them yet.
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Date: 14 Dec 22:36:56
From: Gary Carson
Subject: Re: OT: Pro-Life Hypocrisy
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On Dec 14 2006 3:51 PM, OrangeSFO wrote:
> Abortion have been part of human culture for at least 5,000 years
>
>
> If it offends your "God" so much, why hasn't he put a stop to it?
He has his reasons. The ways of the Lord are beyond the ability of mortals to
understand.
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http://www.garycarson.com
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Date: 15 Dec
From: Necron99
Subject: Re: OT: Pro-Life Hypocrisy
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On Dec 15 2006 9:36 AM, Gary Carson wrote:
> He has his reasons. The ways of the Lord are beyond the ability of mortals to
> understand.
>
> Gary Carson
> http://www.garycarson.com
Gotta love that one. Scary thing is the people who believe it.
Question:
Why have their been no modern prophets?
Anyone who walks down the street claiming to be a nessanger from God is usually
locked up and pumped full of drugs.
Also:
If christianity is founded on faith and they require no proof to support their
faith, why do they require proof of a miracle before making someone a saint?
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Date: 14 Dec 2006 12:09:50
From: Olemite
Subject: Re: OT: Pro-Life Hypocrisy
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I have heard of it. Most people have. I even know a woman who will
not move out of the city she lives in because her child that she lost
is buried in that city.
Your ignorance astounds me.
Ole
Major Killswitch wrote:
> What I find funny about pro-life folks who claim that abortion is murder
> is that I have never heard of anyone holding a funeral after a miscarriage.
>
> Why would you so vehemently argue that abortion is murder of a human
> being, but neglect to give your own child proper honors upon death?
>
> *Major Killswitch*
>
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Date: 14 Dec 2006 12:00:58
From: John_Brian_K
Subject: Re: OT: Pro-Life Hypocrisy
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Major Killswitch wrote:
> What I find funny about pro-life folks who claim that abortion is murder
> is that I have never heard of anyone holding a funeral after a miscarriage.
>
> Why would you so vehemently argue that abortion is murder of a human
> being, but neglect to give your own child proper honors upon death?
>
> *Major Killswitch*
Abortion is murder and most miscarriages happen before their is
semblance of a body. Nothing to bury.
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Date: 14 Dec 19:49:51
From: Gary Carson
Subject: Re: OT: Pro-Life Hypocrisy
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On Dec 14 2006 12:41 PM, Major Killswitch wrote:
> What I find funny about pro-life folks who claim that abortion is murder
> is that I have never heard of anyone holding a funeral after a miscarriage.
I have.
Gary Carson
http://www.garycarson.com
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Date: 14 Dec 2006 11:48:51
From: ML
Subject: Re: OT: Pro-Life Hypocrisy
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Major Idiot wrote:
> What I find funny about pro-life folks who claim that abortion is murder
> is that I have never heard of anyone holding a funeral after a miscarriage.
>
> Why would you so vehemently argue that abortion is murder of a human
> being, but neglect to give your own child proper honors upon death?
>
I know several women who would quickly correct your idiodic opinion.
--
ML
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Date: 14 Dec 19:25:27
From: Porsche_Dan
Subject: Re: OT: Pro-Life Hypocrisy
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Late term I have. Still borns as well.
On Dec 14 2006 10:41 AM, Major Killswitch wrote:
> What I find funny about pro-life folks who claim that abortion is murder
> is that I have never heard of anyone holding a funeral after a miscarriage.
>
> Why would you so vehemently argue that abortion is murder of a human
> being, but neglect to give your own child proper honors upon death?
>
> *Major Killswitch*
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Date: 14 Dec 2006 11:24:40
From: art_classmn
Subject: Re: OT: Pro-Life Hypocrisy
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Peg Smith wrote:
> "Major Killswitch" <ae40b09@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>
> >What I find funny about pro-life folks who claim that abortion is murder
> >is that I have never heard of anyone holding a funeral after a miscarriage.
>
> The hypocrisy I've noticed is that most will grant an exemption for
> rape or incest.
>
> Peg
Hmm....sound like those are very "pro-choice" to me.
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Date: 14 Dec 2006 11:23:34
From: art_classmn
Subject: Re: OT: Pro-Life Hypocrisy
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FL Turbo wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:41:55 -0800, "Major Killswitch"
> <ae40b09@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>
> >What I find funny about pro-life folks who claim that abortion is murder
> >is that I have never heard of anyone holding a funeral after a miscarriage.
> >
>
> My SWAG is that a miscarriage doesn't involve an abortionist
> intervening by actively going in and pulling out the "fetus" and
> throwing it into a waste container.
Your SWAG doesn't have anything to do with the decision to hold a
funeral or not.
Hint: The honest answer is "A misscarried fetus is simply not
comparable to a child who dies after it is born and is not treated the
same way at all even though the people on the pro-life side say
abortion is equivalent to infanticide."
> I could be wrong, though.
You are.
> >Why would you so vehemently argue that abortion is murder of a human
> >being, but neglect to give your own child proper honors upon death?
> >
>
> I'll leave you to ponder over that one.
No, you are supposed to answer that one honestly. You haven't.
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Date: 14 Dec 2006 13:44:57
From: FL Turbo
Subject: Re: OT: Pro-Life Hypocrisy
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On 14 Dec 2006 11:23:34 -0800, "art_classmn" <art_classmn@yahoo.com >
wrote:
>
>FL Turbo wrote:
>> On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:41:55 -0800, "Major Killswitch"
>> <ae40b09@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> >What I find funny about pro-life folks who claim that abortion is murder
>> >is that I have never heard of anyone holding a funeral after a miscarriage.
>> >
>>
>> My SWAG is that a miscarriage doesn't involve an abortionist
>> intervening by actively going in and pulling out the "fetus" and
>> throwing it into a waste container.
>
>Your SWAG doesn't have anything to do with the decision to hold a
>funeral or not.
>
You mean that someone who goes to get an abortion is just as likely to
hold a funeral as someone someone who lost a child to a miscarriage?
Jeezus, Art.
I can't believe that even you are that stupid.
>Hint: The honest answer is "A misscarried fetus is simply not
>comparable to a child who dies after it is born and is not treated the
>same way at all even though the people on the pro-life side say
>abortion is equivalent to infanticide."
>
>> I could be wrong, though.
>
>You are.
>
>> >Why would you so vehemently argue that abortion is murder of a human
>> >being, but neglect to give your own child proper honors upon death?
>> >
>>
Well, maybe in one case it's murder, and in the other it's not.
Just a SWAG here.
>> I'll leave you to ponder over that one.
>
>No, you are supposed to answer that one honestly. You haven't.
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Date: 15 Dec 2006 01:24:26
From: bo dark
Subject: Re: OT: Pro-Life Hypocrisy
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art_classmn wrote:
> bo dark wrote:
> > ShuffletownKid wrote:
> > > "OrangeSFO" <intangible103@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1166133118.551013.149310@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > > > Abortion have been part of human culture for at least 5,000 years
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If it offends your "God" so much, why hasn't he put a stop to it?
> > > >
> > >
> > > God is pro abortion. Miscarriages are acts of God.
> >
> >
> > ford makes cars,are they respondsible for accidents involving fords?
>
> They are responsible for many malfunctions that caused or occured
> during accidents.
>
> Of course, unlike god, Ford is an actual entity.
hey,is crime an entity as defined by wikipedia?it may not be,but you
can see manifestations of it in society.
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Date: 15 Dec 2006 01:14:26
From: bo dark
Subject: Re: OT: Pro-Life Hypocrisy
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art_classmn wrote:
> bo dark wrote:
> > ShuffletownKid wrote:
> > > "OrangeSFO" <intangible103@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1166133118.551013.149310@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > > > Abortion have been part of human culture for at least 5,000 years
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If it offends your "God" so much, why hasn't he put a stop to it?
> > > >
> > >
> > > God is pro abortion. Miscarriages are acts of God.
> >
> >
> > ford makes cars,are they respondsible for accidents involving fords?
>
> They are responsible for many malfunctions that caused or occured
> during accidents.
>
> Of course, unlike god, Ford is an actual entity.
Of course, unlike god, Ford is an actual entity.
Entity
>From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
An entity is something that has a distinct, separate existence, though
it need not be a material existence. In particular, abstractions and
legal fictions are usually regarded as entities. In general, there is
also no presumption that an entity is animate. Entities are used in
system developments as models that display communications and internal
processing of say documents compared to order processing
An entity could be viewed as a set containing subsets. In philosophy,
such sets are said to be abstract objects.
The word entity is often useful when one wants to refer to something
that could be a human being, a non-human animal, a non-thinking
life-form such as a plant or fungus, a lifeless object, or even a
belief; for instance. In this way, entity could be seen as a "catch
all"-word.
Sometimes, the word entity is used in a general sense of a being,
whether or not the referent has material existence; e.g., is often
referred to as an entity with no corporeal form, such as a language.
Taken further, entity sometimes refers to existence or being itself.
For example, the former U.S. diplomat George F. Kennan said once that
"the policy of the government of the United States is to seek . . . to
preserve Chinese territorial and administrative entity."
In law, an entity is something capable of bearing legal rights and
obligations. It generally means "legal entity" or "artificial person"
but also includes "natural person"
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Date: 15 Dec 2006 00:50:30
From: art_classmn
Subject: Re: OT: Pro-Life Hypocrisy
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bo dark wrote:
> ShuffletownKid wrote:
> > "OrangeSFO" <intangible103@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1166133118.551013.149310@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > > Abortion have been part of human culture for at least 5,000 years
> > >
> > >
> > > If it offends your "God" so much, why hasn't he put a stop to it?
> > >
> >
> > God is pro abortion. Miscarriages are acts of God.
>
>
> ford makes cars,are they respondsible for accidents involving fords?
They are responsible for many malfunctions that caused or occured
during accidents.
Of course, unlike god, Ford is an actual entity.
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Date: 14 Dec 2006 23:44:58
From: bo dark
Subject: Re: OT: Pro-Life Hypocrisy
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ShuffletownKid wrote:
> "bo dark" <tx1456@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1166166224.818667.256810@t46g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > ShuffletownKid wrote:
> >> "OrangeSFO" <intangible103@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1166133118.551013.149310@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >> > Abortion have been part of human culture for at least 5,000 years
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > If it offends your "God" so much, why hasn't he put a stop to it?
> >> >
> >>
> >> God is pro abortion. Miscarriages are acts of God.
> >
> >
> > ford makes cars,are they respondsible for accidents involving fords?
> >
>
> Only if baby Fords are a result.
baby's aren't accidents,they maybe unwanted.
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Date: 15 Dec 2006 11:16:13
From: ShuffletownKid
Subject: Re: OT: Pro-Life Hypocrisy
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"bo dark" <tx1456@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1166168698.026920.71550@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> ShuffletownKid wrote:
>> "bo dark" <tx1456@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1166166224.818667.256810@t46g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> > ShuffletownKid wrote:
>> >> "OrangeSFO" <intangible103@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:1166133118.551013.149310@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> >> > Abortion have been part of human culture for at least 5,000 years
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > If it offends your "God" so much, why hasn't he put a stop to it?
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> God is pro abortion. Miscarriages are acts of God.
>> >
>> >
>> > ford makes cars,are they respondsible for accidents involving fords?
>> >
>>
>> Only if baby Fords are a result.
>
>
> baby's aren't accidents,they maybe unwanted.
>
No baby talk, speak English.
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