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Date: 19 Dec 2006 08:40:55
From: burt
Subject: OT: Opening a racial can of worms

Fact: 80% of NBA players are black
Fact: 70% of NFL players are black
Hypothesis 1: A significantly larger than 80% of NBA players who have
been suspended and/or fined in the last 10 years are black.
Hypothesis 2: A significantly larger than 70% of NFL players who have
been suspended or fined in the last 10 years are black.

Conclusions: ???????

Date: 19 Dec 2006 10:42:29
From: Lynx
Subject: Re: OT: Opening a racial can of worms

> Fact: 80% of NBA players are black
> Fact: 70% of NFL players are black
> Hypothesis 1: A significantly larger than 80% of NBA players who have
> been suspended and/or fined in the last 10 years are black.

That's not a hypothesis. It's a statement, allegedly of fact, which in
reality may or may not be true. In making such a statement you should
cite your sources.

> Hypothesis 2: A significantly larger than 70% of NFL players who have
> been suspended or fined in the last 10 years are black.

Again, not a hypothesis.

> Conclusions: ???????

Assuming your above statements to be true, this is where you are actually
asking for a hypothesis.

However, as you've asked for conclusions, my conclusion is this: you've
written a stupid post.

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Date: 19 Dec 2006 14:45:52
From: ShuffletownKid
Subject: Re: OT: Opening a racial can of worms

"Lynx" <a16a9@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
news:ldol54x7ae.ln2@recgroups.com...
>> Fact: 80% of NBA players are black
>> Fact: 70% of NFL players are black
>> Hypothesis 1: A significantly larger than 80% of NBA players who have
>> been suspended and/or fined in the last 10 years are black.
>
> That's not a hypothesis. It's a statement, allegedly of fact, which in
> reality may or may not be true. In making such a statement you should
> cite your sources.
>
>> Hypothesis 2: A significantly larger than 70% of NFL players who have
>> been suspended or fined in the last 10 years are black.
>
> Again, not a hypothesis.
>
>> Conclusions: ???????
>
> Assuming your above statements to be true, this is where you are actually
> asking for a hypothesis.
>
> However, as you've asked for conclusions, my conclusion is this: you've
> written a stupid post.
>
> ------

He was trolling for someone to point of the obvious, it takes more brains to
play football.

Date: 19 Dec 19:33:18
From: O-PGManager
Subject: Re: OT: Opening a racial can of worms

> > Fact: 80% of NBA players are black
> > Fact: 70% of NFL players are black
> > Hypothesis 1: A significantly larger than 80% of NBA players who have
> > been suspended and/or fined in the last 10 years are black.
>
> That's not a hypothesis. It's a statement, allegedly of fact, which in
> reality may or may not be true. In making such a statement you should
> cite your sources.
>
> > Hypothesis 2: A significantly larger than 70% of NFL players who have
> > been suspended or fined in the last 10 years are black.
>
> Again, not a hypothesis.
>
> > Conclusions: ???????
>
> Assuming your above statements to be true, this is where you are actually
> asking for a hypothesis.
>
> However, as you've asked for conclusions, my conclusion is this: you've
> written a stupid post.

Bingo, thanks for saving me a post.

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Date: 19 Dec 2006 11:52:09
From: Ian Stuart
Subject: Re: OT: Opening a racial can of worms

On Dec 19 2006 7:33 PM, O-PGManager wrote:

> > > Fact: 80% of NBA players are black
> > > Fact: 70% of NFL players are black
> > > Hypothesis 1: A significantly larger than 80% of NBA players who have
> > > been suspended and/or fined in the last 10 years are black.
> >
> > That's not a hypothesis. It's a statement, allegedly of fact, which in
> > reality may or may not be true. In making such a statement you should
> > cite your sources.
> >
> > > Hypothesis 2: A significantly larger than 70% of NFL players who have
> > > been suspended or fined in the last 10 years are black.
> >
> > Again, not a hypothesis.
> >
> > > Conclusions: ???????
> >
> > Assuming your above statements to be true, this is where you are actually
> > asking for a hypothesis.
> >
> > However, as you've asked for conclusions, my conclusion is this: you've
> > written a stupid post.
>
>
> Bingo, thanks for saving me a post.

The strange thing is the e-mail address of the OP belongs to this guy:
http://cba.ualr.edu/cbadirectory/data/rbmadden.html

which begs the question why would a university professor with a PhD make
such a post?

Is he curious to see how a question he posed to his students is received
by a group of degenerate gamblers, or is it someone impersonating him?

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Date: 20 Dec 2006 10:06:24
From: pokerchimp
Subject: Re: OT: Opening a racial can of worms

I am making a brief exception about not posting for a while because this
interested me.
Prof. Madden has not posted in a while, but he has been a member since
2003, and made a dozen or more posts that were not troll posts.

I thought this post was so strange, I emailed him to ask about it.

Read from bottom up

I don't know. I read the group regularly and note that their are a lot of
non-poker topics. Perhaps it was not appropriate to post it.
Burt
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From: mixthing@se.rr.com
Date: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 3:00 pm
Subject: your post on recgroups.gambling.poker
To: rbmadden@ualr.edu

> Dear professor Madden,
>
> This was posted from your email address on a popular poker newsgroup:
>
> Fact: 80% of NBA players are black
> Fact: 70% of NFL players are black
> Hypothesis 1: A significantly larger than 80% of NBA players who have
> been suspended and/or fined in the last 10 years are black.
> Hypothesis 2: A significantly larger than 70% of NFL players who have
> been suspended or fined in the last 10 years are black.
>
> Conclusions: ???????
>
>
> Why would you make such a post to this newsgroup? Just curious.
>
> pokerchimp
On Dec 19 2006 2:52 PM, Ian Stuart wrote:

> On Dec 19 2006 7:33 PM, O-PGManager wrote:
>
> > > > Fact: 80% of NBA players are black
> > > > Fact: 70% of NFL players are black
> > > > Hypothesis 1: A significantly larger than 80% of NBA players who have
> > > > been suspended and/or fined in the last 10 years are black.
> > >
> > > That's not a hypothesis. It's a statement, allegedly of fact, which in
> > > reality may or may not be true. In making such a statement you should
> > > cite your sources.
> > >
> > > > Hypothesis 2: A significantly larger than 70% of NFL players who have
> > > > been suspended or fined in the last 10 years are black.
> > >
> > > Again, not a hypothesis.
> > >
> > > > Conclusions: ???????
> > >
> > > Assuming your above statements to be true, this is where you are actually
> > > asking for a hypothesis.
> > >
> > > However, as you've asked for conclusions, my conclusion is this: you've
> > > written a stupid post.
> >
> >
> > Bingo, thanks for saving me a post.
>
>
> The strange thing is the e-mail address of the OP belongs to this guy:
> http://cba.ualr.edu/cbadirectory/data/rbmadden.html
>
> which begs the question why would a university professor with a PhD make
> such a post?
>
> Is he curious to see how a question he posed to his students is received
> by a group of degenerate gamblers, or is it someone impersonating him?

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Date: 20 Dec 2006 10:10:46
From: pokerchimp
Subject: Re: OT: Opening a racial can of worms

And now I have written him this

There have been a significant number of responses to the thread you
started,
yet you have not revisited the thread. It seems like a troll thread, but
I
see you've been an rgper for several years and made some excellent posts.

Since people are accusing you of being a racist based on your post, I
would
think you would want to report and explain it. It does seem very racist.
Are you a racist?

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Date: 19 Dec 2006 10:03:13
From: jarrett40
Subject: Re: OT: Opening a racial can of worms

jarrett40 wrote:
> Ian Stuart wrote:
> > Based on the 'facts' the only conclusion I might be inclined to draw is
> > that statistically white people pretty much suck at basketball and
> > football. Hardly a revelation.
>
> We weren't bred for sports.
>
> jarrett40

I know a lot of you aren't going to get it so I'd better explain. It's
a tounge in cheek reference to Jimmy " the Greek" Snyder.

jarrett40

Date: 19 Dec 2006 10:00:08
From: jarrett40
Subject: Re: OT: Opening a racial can of worms

Ian Stuart wrote:
> Based on the 'facts' the only conclusion I might be inclined to draw is
> that statistically white people pretty much suck at basketball and
> football. Hardly a revelation.

We weren't bred for sports.

jarrett40

Date: 19 Dec 2006 09:44:54
From:
Subject: Re: OT: Opening a racial can of worms

mo_charles wrote:
> > Fact: 80% of NBA players are black
> > Fact: 70% of NFL players are black
> > Hypothesis 1: A significantly larger than 80% of NBA players who have
> > been suspended and/or fined in the last 10 years are black.
> > Hypothesis 2: A significantly larger than 70% of NFL players who have
> > been suspended or fined in the last 10 years are black.
> >
> > Conclusions: ???????
>
> the refs are white.
>
> mo_charles
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I spit milk out of my nose - Thank you!!

Date: 19 Dec 2006 09:33:45
From:
Subject: Re: OT: Opening a racial can of worms

karl.kirch...@triadhospitals.com wrote:
> burt wrote:
> > Fact: 80% of NBA players are black
> > Fact: 70% of NFL players are black
> > Hypothesis 1: A significantly larger than 80% of NBA players who have
> > been suspended and/or fined in the last 10 years are black.
> > Hypothesis 2: A significantly larger than 70% of NFL players who have
> > been suspended or fined in the last 10 years are black.
> >
> > Conclusions: ???????

You should determine whether your hypotheses are true before drawing
conclusions from them. Of course, you should probably just make "black
people are bad" one of your axioms and save yourself some typing.

IHBT

Date: 19 Dec 2006 09:30:34
From: Ian Stuart
Subject: Re: OT: Opening a racial can of worms

On Dec 19 2006 4:40 PM, burt wrote:

> Fact: 80% of NBA players are black
> Fact: 70% of NFL players are black
> Hypothesis 1: A significantly larger than 80% of NBA players who have
> been suspended and/or fined in the last 10 years are black.
> Hypothesis 2: A significantly larger than 70% of NFL players who have
> been suspended or fined in the last 10 years are black.
>
> Conclusions: ???????

Based on the 'facts' the only conclusion I might be inclined to draw is
that statistically white people pretty much suck at basketball and
football. Hardly a revelation.

Why are you mixing facts with hypotheses BTW?

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Date: 19 Dec 2006 09:31:27
From:
Subject: Re: OT: Opening a racial can of worms

burt wrote:
> Fact: 80% of NBA players are black
> Fact: 70% of NFL players are black
> Hypothesis 1: A significantly larger than 80% of NBA players who have
> been suspended and/or fined in the last 10 years are black.
> Hypothesis 2: A significantly larger than 70% of NFL players who have
> been suspended or fined in the last 10 years are black.
>
> Conclusions: ???????

Date: 19 Dec 2006 09:08:01
From: johnny T
Subject: Re: OT: Opening a racial can of worms

burt wrote:

> Conclusions: ???????
>

That the sample is too small to come to conclusions.

Date: 20 Dec
From: GTech1
Subject: Re: OT: Opening a racial can of worms

There are about 1600 players in the NFL and about 450 in the NBA. What sample
size would you suggest?

On Dec 19 2006 12:08 PM, johnny T wrote:

> burt wrote:
>
> > Conclusions: ???????
> >
>
> That the sample is too small to come to conclusions.

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Date: 19 Dec 2006 09:07:20
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Subject: Re: OT: Opening a racial can of worms

Date: 19 Dec 2006 08:49:56
From: mo_charles
Subject: Re: OT: Opening a racial can of worms

> Fact: 80% of NBA players are black
> Fact: 70% of NFL players are black
> Hypothesis 1: A significantly larger than 80% of NBA players who have
> been suspended and/or fined in the last 10 years are black.
> Hypothesis 2: A significantly larger than 70% of NFL players who have
> been suspended or fined in the last 10 years are black.
>
> Conclusions: ???????

the refs are white.

mo_charles

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Date: 19 Dec 2006 08:43:17
From: Ben
Subject: Re: OT: Opening a racial can of worms

Date: 19 Dec 16:59:50
From: Gary Carson
Subject: Re: OT: Opening a racial can of worms

On Dec 19 2006 10:43 AM, Ben wrote:

> burt wrote:
> > Fact: 80% of NBA players are black
> > Fact: 70% of NFL players are black
> > Hypothesis 1: A significantly larger than 80% of NBA players who have
> > been suspended and/or fined in the last 10 years are black.
> > Hypothesis 2: A significantly larger than 70% of NFL players who have
> > been suspended or fined in the last 10 years are black.
> >
> > Conclusions: ???????
>
>
> I can already see it....
>
> "that you're a racist pig!!"

No, no, no. He's just an idiot.

Blacks are over-represented in the criminal justice system at all strata of
society. That's not evidence about blacks. It's evidence about how the
government in America actually works (or doesn't work).

Gary Carson
http://www.garycarson.com

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Date: 19 Dec 2006 10:48:01
From: Lynx
Subject: Re: OT: Opening a racial can of worms

> Blacks are over-represented in the criminal justice system at all strata of
> society. That's not evidence about blacks. It's evidence about how the
> government in America actually works (or doesn't work).

In and of itself, it isn't evidence of anything. It merely shows a
correlation.

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Date: 19 Dec 2006 11:46:01
From: WuzYoungOnceToo
Subject: Re: OT: Opening a racial can of worms

On Dec 19, 10:59 am, Gary Carson <garycar...@alumni.northwestern.edu >
wrote:
>
>> Blacks are over-represented in the criminal justice system at all strata of
> society. That's not evidence about blacks. It's evidence about how the
> government in America actually works (or doesn't work).

Congratulations on responding to a stupid post with one that was even
more stupid.

Date: 19 Dec 2006 21:49:04
From: bo dark
Subject: Re: OT: Opening a racial can of worms

Ian Stuart wrote:
> On Dec 19 2006 4:40 PM, burt wrote:
>
> > Fact: 80% of NBA players are black
> > Fact: 70% of NFL players are black
> > Hypothesis 1: A significantly larger than 80% of NBA players who have
> > been suspended and/or fined in the last 10 years are black.
> > Hypothesis 2: A significantly larger than 70% of NFL players who have
> > been suspended or fined in the last 10 years are black.
> >
> > Conclusions: ???????
>
> Based on the 'facts' the only conclusion I might be inclined to draw is
> that statistically white people pretty much suck at basketball and
> football. Hardly a revelation.
>
> Why are you mixing facts with hypotheses BTW?
>
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what a racist thing to say,can you substantiate that white people suck
at basketball and football?

Date: 20 Dec 2006 01:19:14
From: Ian Stuart
Subject: Re: OT: Opening a racial can of worms

On Dec 20 2006 5:49 AM, bo dark wrote:

> Ian Stuart wrote:
> > On Dec 19 2006 4:40 PM, burt wrote:
> >
> > > Fact: 80% of NBA players are black
> > > Fact: 70% of NFL players are black
> > > Hypothesis 1: A significantly larger than 80% of NBA players who have
> > > been suspended and/or fined in the last 10 years are black.
> > > Hypothesis 2: A significantly larger than 70% of NFL players who have
> > > been suspended or fined in the last 10 years are black.
> > >
> > > Conclusions: ???????
> >
> > Based on the 'facts' the only conclusion I might be inclined to draw is
> > that statistically white people pretty much suck at basketball and
> > football. Hardly a revelation.
> >
> > Why are you mixing facts with hypotheses BTW?
> >
> what a racist thing to say,can you substantiate that white people suck
> at basketball and football?

Well if players from the country's majority racial grouping only make up
<20% and <30% of the top flights for the two respective sports what does
that tell you?
Personally, I couldn't care less. I was only turning the OP's own stats
back against him to wind him up. If that was too subtle for you, I
apologize.
Maybe 'suck' was a bit unfair, but as the whole thread is based on a troll
post who really gives a flying fuck?

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Date: 19 Dec 2006 21:45:31
From: bo dark
Subject: Re: Opening a racial can of worms

Tate and Lyle wrote:
> "burt" <rbmadden@ualr.edu> wrote in message
> news:1166546455.096925.180800@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
> > Fact: 80% of NBA players are black
> > Fact: 70% of NFL players are black
> > Hypothesis 1: A significantly larger than 80% of NBA players who have
> > been suspended and/or fined in the last 10 years are black.
> > Hypothesis 2: A significantly larger than 70% of NFL players who have
> > been suspended or fined in the last 10 years are black.
> >
> > Conclusions: ???????
>
> Blackmen have a greater diversity in genitic difference than whites.
> By this I mean you will get more tall, more heavy, more short more thin
> etc also more agressive, more none agressive.White men tend to be more
> average but blacks deviate more from the average, a wider spread.
>
>
> Now only the elite group play top level sports so more blacks.
> If you took the worst players they would also be black!!!!!
> But of course the worst don't play beause nobody picks them and they
> know they are shit so don't even bother trying.
>
> The most agressive players commit the most offences and these too will be
> black.
> However the least agressive are also black but points are not deducted for
> being
> less agressive than average.
>
> Conclusion genetic diversity is wider in black than white.
> On average there is no difference.
>
> Conclusion 2.
> You racism is based on ignorance.
> >

so what is your racism based on?

Date: 20 Dec 2006 03:22:10
From: Tate and Lyle
Subject: Re: Opening a racial can of worms

"burt" <rbmadden@ualr.edu > wrote in message
news:1166546455.096925.180800@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
> Fact: 80% of NBA players are black
> Fact: 70% of NFL players are black
> Hypothesis 1: A significantly larger than 80% of NBA players who have
> been suspended and/or fined in the last 10 years are black.
> Hypothesis 2: A significantly larger than 70% of NFL players who have
> been suspended or fined in the last 10 years are black.
>
> Conclusions: ???????

Blackmen have a greater diversity in genitic difference than whites.
By this I mean you will get more tall, more heavy, more short more thin
etc also more agressive, more none agressive.White men tend to be more
average but blacks deviate more from the average, a wider spread.

Now only the elite group play top level sports so more blacks.
If you took the worst players they would also be black!!!!!
But of course the worst don't play beause nobody picks them and they
know they are shit so don't even bother trying.

The most agressive players commit the most offences and these too will be
black.
However the least agressive are also black but points are not deducted for
being
less agressive than average.

Conclusion genetic diversity is wider in black than white.
On average there is no difference.

Conclusion 2.
You racism is based on ignorance.
>

Date: 20 Dec 2006 03:01:30
From: Tate and Lyle
Subject: Re: Opening a racial can of worms

Date: 19 Dec 2006 20:24:38
From: James L. Hankins
Subject: Re: Opening a racial can of worms

Date: 19 Dec 2006 16:16:09
From: eleaticus
Subject: Re: Opening a racial can of worms

"burt" <rbmadden@ualr.edu > wrote in message
news:1166546455.096925.180800@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
> Fact: 80% of NBA players are black
> Fact: 70% of NFL players are black
> Hypothesis 1: A significantly larger than 80% of NBA players who have
> been suspended and/or fined in the last 10 years are black.
> Hypothesis 2: A significantly larger than 70% of NFL players who have
> been suspended or fined in the last 10 years are black.
>
> Conclusions: ???????

Well, blacks dominate just about every team numerically and have reason to
be hostile.

Mainly, a much greater proportion come from neighborhoods that aggrandize
violence and a form of machismo, and just what do we imagine rap says about
the proper behavior when there is conflict?

I am reminded of a black columnist I read in the Atlanta
Journal-Constitution long ago. The article was about the modern young black
man and how he could now stand up for himself. But he didn't realize that
the man he described was a sociopath.

--
eleaticus
ee-lee-AT-i-cus
eleaticus@bellsouth.net

Date: 19 Dec 2006 21:48:36
From: Gary Logan
Subject: Re: OT: Opening a racial can of worms

In article <1166546455.096925.180800@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com >,
burt <rbmadden@ualr.edu > wrote:
>Fact: 80% of NBA players are black
>Fact: 70% of NFL players are black
>Hypothesis 1: A significantly larger than 80% of NBA players who have
>been suspended and/or fined in the last 10 years are black.
>Hypothesis 2: A significantly larger than 70% of NFL players who have
>been suspended or fined in the last 10 years are black.
>
>Conclusions: ???????
>

Yes. It isn't easy to be suspended or fined while sitting on the bench.

Date: 19 Dec 2006 12:50:51
From: art_classmn
Subject: Re: OT: Opening a racial can of worms

Date: 19 Dec 2006 12:49:33
From: art_classmn
Subject: Re: OT: Opening a racial can of worms

Date: 19 Dec 2006 12:34:25
From: OrangeSFO
Subject: Re: OT: Opening a racial can of worms

99.9% of corporate executives are white.

99.9% of corporate executives jailed or tried for corporate crime are
white.

Conclusions?

Date: 19 Dec 2006 22:07:08
From: ShuffletownKid
Subject: Re: OT: Opening a racial can of worms

"OrangeSFO" <intangible103@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1166560465.308876.62780@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com...
>
> 99.9% of corporate executives are white.
>
> 99.9% of corporate executives jailed or tried for corporate crime are
> white.
>
> Conclusions?
>

Corporate execs are likely to end up being a former pro ball player's bitch
in prison.

Date: 19 Dec 2006 12:46:21
From: mo_charles
Subject: Re: OT: Opening a racial can of worms

> 99.9% of corporate executives are white.
>
> 99.9% of corporate executives jailed or tried for corporate crime are
> white.
>
> Conclusions?

you're a misinformed fucking idiot?

mo_charles

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Date: 19 Dec 2006 17:38:43
From: mo_charles
Subject: Re: OT: Opening a racial can of worms

> > 99.9% of corporate executives are white.
> >
> > 99.9% of corporate executives jailed or tried for corporate crime are
> > white.
> >
> > Conclusions?
>
> you're a misinformed fucking idiot?

forgive my rash and insulting post, orange. i didn't mean it - really. i
am, however, up for the pepsi challenge:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-0612190200dec19,0,3146574.story?coll=chi-business-hed

"
WASHINGTON -- Fannie Mae's regulator on Monday sued ousted Chief Executive
Franklin Raines and two other former senior officers for more than $215
million because of their roles in overstating profit by $6.3 billion.
"

what color is mr. raines?

http://users2.wsj.com/lmda/do/checkLogin?mg=wsj-users2&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB114022005094977567-search.html

"
A group of current and former professional football players filed a civil
lawsuit in Georgia state court against an Atlanta hedge-fund firm in which
they had invested millions of dollars, accusing its principals of theft,
forgery and fraud.

In their suit, the investors say they put a total of about $15 million
into funds managed by International Management Associates LLC, its
affiliates and principal Kirk S. Wright. They allege that Mr. Wright,
other principals and the firm have failed to honor withdrawal requests
made Dec. 5,
"

what color is mr.wright?

and they're both from the LAST YEAR alone! i await your 1998 rebuttals.

mo_charles

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Date: 19 Dec 19:44:24
From: Bryan Kimmes
Subject: Re: OT: Opening a racial can of worms

On Dec 19 2006 10:40 AM, burt wrote:

> Fact: 80% of NBA players are black
> Fact: 70% of NFL players are black
> Hypothesis 1: A significantly larger than 80% of NBA players who have
> been suspended and/or fined in the last 10 years are black.

Sheed Wallace has skewed your data. In addition, the white players in the nba
are primarily from Europe, and have better sportsmanship than Americans.

> Hypothesis 2: A significantly larger than 70% of NFL players who have
> been suspended or fined in the last 10 years are black.

Only 70% of the NFL is black? Punters, kickers, and big o-linemen don't have a
lot of opportunity's to be fined by the NFL. No endzone celebrations, and the
media usually doesn't even talk to these guys.

Just making a couple of guesses assuming your data is accurate.

Bryan

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Date: 20 Dec 2006 13:19:30
From: Mark B $Diputsur$
Subject: Re: Opening a racial can of worms

Date: 20 Dec 2006 01:36:18
From: bo dark
Subject: Re: OT: Opening a racial can of worms

Ian Stuart wrote:
> On Dec 20 2006 5:49 AM, bo dark wrote:
>
> > Ian Stuart wrote:
> > > On Dec 19 2006 4:40 PM, burt wrote:
> > >
> > > > Fact: 80% of NBA players are black
> > > > Fact: 70% of NFL players are black
> > > > Hypothesis 1: A significantly larger than 80% of NBA players who have
> > > > been suspended and/or fined in the last 10 years are black.
> > > > Hypothesis 2: A significantly larger than 70% of NFL players who have
> > > > been suspended or fined in the last 10 years are black.
> > > >
> > > > Conclusions: ???????
> > >
> > > Based on the 'facts' the only conclusion I might be inclined to draw is
> > > that statistically white people pretty much suck at basketball and
> > > football. Hardly a revelation.
> > >
> > > Why are you mixing facts with hypotheses BTW?
> > >
> > what a racist thing to say,can you substantiate that white people suck
> > at basketball and football?
>
> Well if players from the country's majority racial grouping only make up
> <20% and <30% of the top flights for the two respective sports what does
> that tell you?
> Personally, I couldn't care less. I was only turning the OP's own stats
> back against him to wind him up. If that was too subtle for you, I
> apologize.
> Maybe 'suck' was a bit unfair, but as the whole thread is based on a troll
> post who really gives a flying fuck?
>
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okay,but when people come to conclusions based on observation they
shouldn't call others bad names(racist)when they do the same,like on
intelligence and race other controversial subject matter.