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Date: 17 Dec
From: Gary Carson
Subject: OT: Nevada status laws
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An adult resident of Nevada in his 50's (Sklansky) tells a story that makes no
sense to me.
He says he was living with a female 16 year oid runaway (I don't know from what
state she ran away) and after living in his house for 8 months she was arrested
by Las Vegas police for being a runaway. Sklansky was not charged with a crime
but she had a public trial. She was charged only with a status offense.
Do they have public trials for status offenses?
Even if 16 is the age of consent why isn't a an adult who assists a 16 year old
in a status offense charged with some form of contributing?
Anybody know anything about this niche of law?
Gary Carson
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Date: 16 Dec 2006 23:29:00
From: Lynx
Subject: Re: OT: Nevada status laws
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> An adult resident of Nevada in his 50's (Sklansky) tells a story that makes
no
> sense to me.
>
> He says he was living with a female 16 year oid runaway (I don't know from
what
> state she ran away) and after living in his house for 8 months she was
arrested
> by Las Vegas police for being a runaway. Sklansky was not charged with a
crime
> but she had a public trial. She was charged only with a status offense.
>
> Anybody know anything about this niche of law?
I don't have any specific knowledge of Nevada law, but it doesn't seem
that strange to me that Sklansky was not charged.
The purpose of the state was quite likely to force her to go back to her
family, quite likely outside of Nevada. (Runaways are generally seen as
undesirables.) If they were not concerned about punishment, but just
wanted to have her extradited out of the state as expeditiously as
possible, they would have no interest in Sklansky.
Again, I don’t know Nevada state law. I’m guessing that, under Nevada
law, she would first have to be shown to be in violation of some Nevada
statute, before the state could legally extradite her.
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Date: 17 Dec
From: Gary Carson
Subject: Re: OT: Nevada status laws
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On Dec 17 2006 1:29 AM, Lynx wrote:
> > An adult resident of Nevada in his 50's (Sklansky) tells a story that makes
> no
> > sense to me.
> >
> > He says he was living with a female 16 year oid runaway (I don't know from
> what
> > state she ran away) and after living in his house for 8 months she was
> arrested
> > by Las Vegas police for being a runaway. Sklansky was not charged with a
> crime
> > but she had a public trial. She was charged only with a status offense.
> >
> > Anybody know anything about this niche of law?
>
> I don't have any specific knowledge of Nevada law, but it doesn't seem
> that strange to me that Sklansky was not charged.
>
> The purpose of the state was quite likely to force her to go back to her
> family, quite likely outside of Nevada. (Runaways are generally seen as
> undesirables.) If they were not concerned about punishment, but just
> wanted to have her extradited out of the state as expeditiously as
> possible, they would have no interest in Sklansky.
The part of that which really confused me was that Sklansky claims there was a
public trial.
Running away isn't a criminal act, it's what's called a status crime. It's a
special catogory for juviniles. I've just never heard of a trial for a status
crime, and even if it was just a hearing rather than a trail, it makes no sense
to allow Sklansky to attend (and I was in juvinile court a few times when legal
protections for juvilines where pretty slim). I was in custody for runaway in
Texas before Miranda and before a federal court ordered the state juvinile
facilities shut down because they were so bad. There were no trials.
He appears to have started at least 2 threads on it at 2+2 and then deleted them
when the thread took a turn that made him uncomfortable. So the entirety of the
story just seems very odd to me.
If she's from out of state there's all kinds of laws, that states, Nevada,
Federal, etc.
>
> Again, I don t know Nevada state law. I m guessing that, under Nevada
> law, she would first have to be shown to be in violation of some Nevada
> statute, before the state could legally extradite her.
That's not a trial though. Maybe David just doesn't know the difference.
Gary Carson
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Date: 17 Dec 2006 03:08:08
From: Von Fourche
Subject: Re: OT: Nevada status laws
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"Gary Carson" <garycarson@alumni.northwestern.edu > wrote in message
news:1166342218$922988@recpoker.com...
>
>
>
> On Dec 17 2006 1:29 AM, Lynx wrote:
>
>> > An adult resident of Nevada in his 50's (Sklansky) tells a story that
>> > makes
>> no
>> > sense to me.
>> >
>> > He says he was living with a female 16 year oid runaway (I don't know
>> > from
>> what
>> > state she ran away) and after living in his house for 8 months she was
>> arrested
>> > by Las Vegas police for being a runaway. Sklansky was not charged with
>> > a
>> crime
>> > but she had a public trial. She was charged only with a status offense.
>> >
>> > Anybody know anything about this niche of law?
>>
>> I don't have any specific knowledge of Nevada law, but it doesn't seem
>> that strange to me that Sklansky was not charged.
>>
>> The purpose of the state was quite likely to force her to go back to her
>> family, quite likely outside of Nevada. (Runaways are generally seen as
>> undesirables.) If they were not concerned about punishment, but just
>> wanted to have her extradited out of the state as expeditiously as
>> possible, they would have no interest in Sklansky.
>
> The part of that which really confused me was that Sklansky claims there
> was a
> public trial.
>
> Running away isn't a criminal act, it's what's called a status crime. It's
> a
> special catogory for juviniles. I've just never heard of a trial for a
> status
> crime, and even if it was just a hearing rather than a trail, it makes no
> sense
> to allow Sklansky to attend (and I was in juvinile court a few times when
> legal
> protections for juvilines where pretty slim). I was in custody for runaway
> in
> Texas before Miranda and before a federal court ordered the state juvinile
> facilities shut down because they were so bad. There were no trials.
>
> He appears to have started at least 2 threads on it at 2+2 and then
> deleted them
> when the thread took a turn that made him uncomfortable. So the entirety
> of the
> story just seems very odd to me.
>
> If she's from out of state there's all kinds of laws, that states, Nevada,
> Federal, etc.
>
>>
>> Again, I don t know Nevada state law. I m guessing that, under Nevada
>> law, she would first have to be shown to be in violation of some Nevada
>> statute, before the state could legally extradite her.
>
> That's not a trial though. Maybe David just doesn't know the difference.
What kind of relationship did he have with this runaway if any at all?
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Date: 17 Dec
From: Gary Carson
Subject: Re: OT: Nevada status laws
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On Dec 17 2006 2:08 AM, Von Fourche wrote:
> > That's not a trial though. Maybe David just doesn't know the difference.
>
>
>
> What kind of relationship did he have with this runaway if any at all?
He met her on some internet chat room and offered her room and board and some
spending money in exchange for sex.
That lasted for 8 months. He likes to tell the story becuase it makes him such
a stud that some 16 year old runaway wanted to sleep with him. For a whole 8
months Sklansky got laid without having to call a hooker.
16 is the age of consent in Nevada, but apparnatly it's not the age of
majority. He didn't violate the law by having sex with her, but he might have
violated the law by encourging her to come across state lines to sleep with
him. I think (but I'm not sure) he violated federal law by using the internet
to intice her to have sex with him.
But his story is incomplete and just doesn't sound right to me.
Gary Carson
http://www.garycarson.com
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Date: 17 Dec 2006 10:15:17
From: pokerchimp
Subject: Re: OT: Nevada status laws
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Sklansky related this story on 2+2 and then deleted it? Anyone else see
it? I'm no fan of Sklanksy's (although some of his books are great) but
this story seems very contrived and a convenient way to slander him.
OTOH, it's so hard to doubt you Gary, as you've always been so honest and
never prone to exageration.
On Dec 17 2006 3:32 AM, Gary Carson wrote:
> On Dec 17 2006 2:08 AM, Von Fourche wrote:
>
>
>
> > > That's not a trial though. Maybe David just doesn't know the difference.
> >
> >
> >
> > What kind of relationship did he have with this runaway if any at all?
>
> He met her on some internet chat room and offered her room and board and some
> spending money in exchange for sex.
>
> That lasted for 8 months. He likes to tell the story becuase it makes him
such
> a stud that some 16 year old runaway wanted to sleep with him. For a whole 8
> months Sklansky got laid without having to call a hooker.
>
> 16 is the age of consent in Nevada, but apparnatly it's not the age of
> majority. He didn't violate the law by having sex with her, but he might
have
> violated the law by encourging her to come across state lines to sleep with
> him. I think (but I'm not sure) he violated federal law by using the
internet
> to intice her to have sex with him.
>
> But his story is incomplete and just doesn't sound right to me.
>
>
> Gary Carson
> http://www.garycarson.com
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Date: 17 Dec 20:44:56
From: Gary Carson
Subject: Re: OT: Nevada status laws
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On Dec 17 2006 12:15 PM, pokerchimp wrote:
> Sklansky related this story on 2+2 and then deleted it? Anyone else see
> it? I'm no fan of Sklanksy's (although some of his books are great) but
> this story seems very contrived and a convenient way to slander him.
Yeah, sure, I made it up.
>
> OTOH, it's so hard to doubt you Gary, as you've always been so honest and
> never prone to exageration.
Do you have a clue how to use google.
They have cached many pages so even deleting them doesn't delete them. He
starts talking about the runaway about half way down this page
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:3r8BJYB5CZkJ:forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sho
wflat.php%3FCat%3D0%26Number%3D8351456%26page%3D0%26fpart%3Dall%26vc%3D1+sklansk
y+sex+with+runaway&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=2
>
But I made that one up too.
I don't need to make up shit about David. He's truely out to lunch and does a
fine job of self-slander. But I make it all up anyway because I'm jealous of a
guy who raised a boy who couldnl't even get a job so David's friend gave the kid
a job.
> On Dec 17 2006 3:32 AM, Gary Carson wrote:
>
> > On Dec 17 2006 2:08 AM, Von Fourche wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > > That's not a trial though. Maybe David just doesn't know the difference.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What kind of relationship did he have with this runaway if any at all?
> >
> > He met her on some internet chat room and offered her room and board and
> > some
> > spending money in exchange for sex.
> >
> > That lasted for 8 months. He likes to tell the story becuase it makes him
> such
> > a stud that some 16 year old runaway wanted to sleep with him. For a whole
> > 8
> > months Sklansky got laid without having to call a hooker.
> >
> > 16 is the age of consent in Nevada, but apparnatly it's not the age of
> > majority. He didn't violate the law by having sex with her, but he might
> have
> > violated the law by encourging her to come across state lines to sleep with
> > him. I think (but I'm not sure) he violated federal law by using the
> internet
> > to intice her to have sex with him.
> >
> > But his story is incomplete and just doesn't sound right to me.
> >
> >
> > Gary Carson
> > http://www.garycarson.com/
>
>
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Date: 17 Dec 2006 13:41:13
From: pokerchimp
Subject: Re: OT: Nevada status laws
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Gary, I didn't accuse YOU of making it up. I didn't accuse anyone. I was
just speculating that someone else might have posted this in Sklansky's
name, and that is why it had been deleted. I realize that it did sound
somewhat accusatory of you in my initial paragraph, but I was sincere
about the OTOH, even though it sounded sarcastic. So sorrry for that.
I'm actually one of your fans Gary, and I think you are an honest person,
also very smart and with a good sense of humor.
On Dec 17 2006 3:44 PM, Gary Carson wrote:
> On Dec 17 2006 12:15 PM, pokerchimp wrote:
>
> > Sklansky related this story on 2+2 and then deleted it? Anyone else see
> > it? I'm no fan of Sklanksy's (although some of his books are great) but
> > this story seems very contrived and a convenient way to slander him.
>
> Yeah, sure, I made it up.
>
> >
> > OTOH, it's so hard to doubt you Gary, as you've always been so honest and
> > never prone to exageration.
>
> Do you have a clue how to use google.
>
> They have cached many pages so even deleting them doesn't delete them. He
> starts talking about the runaway about half way down this page
>
>
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:3r8BJYB5CZkJ:forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sho
>
wflat.php%3FCat%3D0%26Number%3D8351456%26page%3D0%26fpart%3Dall%26vc%3D1+sklansk
> y+sex+with+runaway&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=2
> >
>
> But I made that one up too.
>
> I don't need to make up shit about David. He's truely out to lunch and does
a
> fine job of self-slander. But I make it all up anyway because I'm jealous
of a
> guy who raised a boy who couldnl't even get a job so David's friend gave the
kid
> a job.
>
>
> > On Dec 17 2006 3:32 AM, Gary Carson wrote:
> >
> > > On Dec 17 2006 2:08 AM, Von Fourche wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > > That's not a trial though. Maybe David just doesn't know the
difference.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What kind of relationship did he have with this runaway if any at all?
> > >
> > > He met her on some internet chat room and offered her room and board and
> > > some
> > > spending money in exchange for sex.
> > >
> > > That lasted for 8 months. He likes to tell the story becuase it makes
him
> > such
> > > a stud that some 16 year old runaway wanted to sleep with him. For a
whole
> > > 8
> > > months Sklansky got laid without having to call a hooker.
> > >
> > > 16 is the age of consent in Nevada, but apparnatly it's not the age of
> > > majority. He didn't violate the law by having sex with her, but he might
> > have
> > > violated the law by encourging her to come across state lines to sleep
with
> > > him. I think (but I'm not sure) he violated federal law by using the
> > internet
> > > to intice her to have sex with him.
> > >
> > > But his story is incomplete and just doesn't sound right to me.
> > >
> > >
> > > Gary Carson
> > > http://www.garycarson.com/
> >
> >
> > thumbers on stars, dieseldyke on absolute/vegaspoker24/7
> Gary Carson
> http://www.garycarson.com
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Date: 17 Dec 2006 17:32:29
From: Susan
Subject: Re: OT: Nevada status laws
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chimp - its his forum. No one could have posted in his name.
"pokerchimp" <mixthing@se.rr.com > wrote in message
news:o4qg54xmu3.ln2@recgroups.com...
> Gary, I didn't accuse YOU of making it up. I didn't accuse anyone. I was
> just speculating that someone else might have posted this in Sklansky's
> name, and that is why it had been deleted. I realize that it did sound
> somewhat accusatory of you in my initial paragraph, but I was sincere
> about the OTOH, even though it sounded sarcastic. So sorrry for that.
> I'm actually one of your fans Gary, and I think you are an honest person,
> also very smart and with a good sense of humor.
>
>
> On Dec 17 2006 3:44 PM, Gary Carson wrote:
>
>> On Dec 17 2006 12:15 PM, pokerchimp wrote:
>>
>> > Sklansky related this story on 2+2 and then deleted it? Anyone else see
>> > it? I'm no fan of Sklanksy's (although some of his books are great) but
>> > this story seems very contrived and a convenient way to slander him.
>>
>> Yeah, sure, I made it up.
>>
>> >
>> > OTOH, it's so hard to doubt you Gary, as you've always been so honest
>> > and
>> > never prone to exageration.
>>
>> Do you have a clue how to use google.
>>
>> They have cached many pages so even deleting them doesn't delete them. He
>> starts talking about the runaway about half way down this page
>>
>>
> http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:3r8BJYB5CZkJ:forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sho
>>
> wflat.php%3FCat%3D0%26Number%3D8351456%26page%3D0%26fpart%3Dall%26vc%3D1+sklansk
>> y+sex+with+runaway&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=2
>> >
>>
>> But I made that one up too.
>>
>> I don't need to make up shit about David. He's truely out to lunch and
>> does
> a
>> fine job of self-slander. But I make it all up anyway because I'm jealous
> of a
>> guy who raised a boy who couldnl't even get a job so David's friend gave
>> the
> kid
>> a job.
>>
>>
>> > On Dec 17 2006 3:32 AM, Gary Carson wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Dec 17 2006 2:08 AM, Von Fourche wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > > That's not a trial though. Maybe David just doesn't know the
> difference.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > What kind of relationship did he have with this runaway if any at
>> > > > all?
>> > >
>> > > He met her on some internet chat room and offered her room and board
>> > > and
>> > > some
>> > > spending money in exchange for sex.
>> > >
>> > > That lasted for 8 months. He likes to tell the story becuase it makes
> him
>> > such
>> > > a stud that some 16 year old runaway wanted to sleep with him. For a
> whole
>> > > 8
>> > > months Sklansky got laid without having to call a hooker.
>> > >
>> > > 16 is the age of consent in Nevada, but apparnatly it's not the age
>> > > of
>> > > majority. He didn't violate the law by having sex with her, but he
>> > > might
>> > have
>> > > violated the law by encourging her to come across state lines to
>> > > sleep
> with
>> > > him. I think (but I'm not sure) he violated federal law by using the
>> > internet
>> > > to intice her to have sex with him.
>> > >
>> > > But his story is incomplete and just doesn't sound right to me.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Gary Carson
>> > > http://www.garycarson.com/
>> >
>> >
>> > thumbers on stars, dieseldyke on absolute/vegaspoker24/7
>> Gary Carson
>> http://www.garycarson.com
>
>
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Date: 17 Dec 2006 21:41:24
From: Lynx
Subject: Re: OT: Nevada status laws
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> chimp - its his forum. No one could have posted in his name.
Are you suggesting that David Sklansky exerts some sort of control over
what is posted at 2+2?
2+2 is the most open forum I have ever been to. There is absolutely NO
censorship at 2+2. I repeat, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO CENSORSHIP AT 2+2!
(And what's more, Sklansky, Malmuth, et al., will personally delete the
posts of anyone that suggests otherwise.)
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Date: 17 Dec 2006 15:39:45
From: pokerchimp
Subject: Re: OT: Nevada status laws
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Yeah, I'm just a little ignorant hre i guess. I admit I was wrong.
Apologies to Gary.
On Dec 17 2006 6:32 PM, Susan wrote:
> chimp - its his forum. No one could have posted in his name.
>
>
> "pokerchimp" <mixthing@se.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:o4qg54xmu3.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > Gary, I didn't accuse YOU of making it up. I didn't accuse anyone. I was
> > just speculating that someone else might have posted this in Sklansky's
> > name, and that is why it had been deleted. I realize that it did sound
> > somewhat accusatory of you in my initial paragraph, but I was sincere
> > about the OTOH, even though it sounded sarcastic. So sorrry for that.
> > I'm actually one of your fans Gary, and I think you are an honest person,
> > also very smart and with a good sense of humor.
> >
> >
> > On Dec 17 2006 3:44 PM, Gary Carson wrote:
> >
> >> On Dec 17 2006 12:15 PM, pokerchimp wrote:
> >>
> >> > Sklansky related this story on 2+2 and then deleted it? Anyone else see
> >> > it? I'm no fan of Sklanksy's (although some of his books are great) but
> >> > this story seems very contrived and a convenient way to slander him.
> >>
> >> Yeah, sure, I made it up.
> >>
> >> >
> >> > OTOH, it's so hard to doubt you Gary, as you've always been so honest
> >> > and
> >> > never prone to exageration.
> >>
> >> Do you have a clue how to use google.
> >>
> >> They have cached many pages so even deleting them doesn't delete them. He
> >> starts talking about the runaway about half way down this page
> >>
> >>
> >
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:3r8BJYB5CZkJ:forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sho
> >>
> >
wflat.php%3FCat%3D0%26Number%3D8351456%26page%3D0%26fpart%3Dall%26vc%3D1+sklansk
> >> y+sex+with+runaway&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=2
> >> >
> >>
> >> But I made that one up too.
> >>
> >> I don't need to make up shit about David. He's truely out to lunch and
> >> does
> > a
> >> fine job of self-slander. But I make it all up anyway because I'm jealous
> > of a
> >> guy who raised a boy who couldnl't even get a job so David's friend gave
> >> the
> > kid
> >> a job.
> >>
> >>
> >> > On Dec 17 2006 3:32 AM, Gary Carson wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > On Dec 17 2006 2:08 AM, Von Fourche wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > > > That's not a trial though. Maybe David just doesn't know the
> > difference.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > What kind of relationship did he have with this runaway if any at
> >> > > > all?
> >> > >
> >> > > He met her on some internet chat room and offered her room and board
> >> > > and
> >> > > some
> >> > > spending money in exchange for sex.
> >> > >
> >> > > That lasted for 8 months. He likes to tell the story becuase it makes
> > him
> >> > such
> >> > > a stud that some 16 year old runaway wanted to sleep with him. For a
> > whole
> >> > > 8
> >> > > months Sklansky got laid without having to call a hooker.
> >> > >
> >> > > 16 is the age of consent in Nevada, but apparnatly it's not the age
> >> > > of
> >> > > majority. He didn't violate the law by having sex with her, but he
> >> > > might
> >> > have
> >> > > violated the law by encourging her to come across state lines to
> >> > > sleep
> > with
> >> > > him. I think (but I'm not sure) he violated federal law by using the
> >> > internet
> >> > > to intice her to have sex with him.
> >> > >
> >> > > But his story is incomplete and just doesn't sound right to me.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Gary Carson
> >> > > http://www.garycarson.com/
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > thumbers on stars, dieseldyke on absolute/vegaspoker24/7
> >> Gary Carson
> >> http://www.garycarson.com
> >
> >
> > thumbers on stars, dieseldyke on absolute/vegaspoker24/7
> >
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Date: 17 Dec 2006 14:03:23
From: pokerchimp
Subject: Re: OT: Nevada status laws
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Actually, I do have a clue as to how to use google, but I didn't look. I
just read the first page of the thread. Was that really Sklansky posting?
I didn't think he would post something like that even if it were true.
My ignorance. A guess a man like him bragging about his sexual conquests
overrides any sense of good tase he may have.
On Dec 17 2006 4:41 PM, pokerchimp wrote:
> Gary, I didn't accuse YOU of making it up. I didn't accuse anyone. I was
> just speculating that someone else might have posted this in Sklansky's
> name, and that is why it had been deleted. I realize that it did sound
> somewhat accusatory of you in my initial paragraph, but I was sincere
> about the OTOH, even though it sounded sarcastic. So sorrry for that.
> I'm actually one of your fans Gary, and I think you are an honest person,
> also very smart and with a good sense of humor.
>
>
> On Dec 17 2006 3:44 PM, Gary Carson wrote:
>
> > On Dec 17 2006 12:15 PM, pokerchimp wrote:
> >
> > > Sklansky related this story on 2+2 and then deleted it? Anyone else see
> > > it? I'm no fan of Sklanksy's (although some of his books are great) but
> > > this story seems very contrived and a convenient way to slander him.
> >
> > Yeah, sure, I made it up.
> >
> > >
> > > OTOH, it's so hard to doubt you Gary, as you've always been so honest and
> > > never prone to exageration.
> >
> > Do you have a clue how to use google.
> >
> > They have cached many pages so even deleting them doesn't delete them. He
> > starts talking about the runaway about half way down this page
> >
> >
>
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:3r8BJYB5CZkJ:forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sho
> >
>
wflat.php%3FCat%3D0%26Number%3D8351456%26page%3D0%26fpart%3Dall%26vc%3D1+sklansk
> > y+sex+with+runaway&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=2
> > >
> >
> > But I made that one up too.
> >
> > I don't need to make up shit about David. He's truely out to lunch and
does
> a
> > fine job of self-slander. But I make it all up anyway because I'm jealous
> of a
> > guy who raised a boy who couldnl't even get a job so David's friend gave
the
> kid
> > a job.
> >
> >
> > > On Dec 17 2006 3:32 AM, Gary Carson wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Dec 17 2006 2:08 AM, Von Fourche wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > That's not a trial though. Maybe David just doesn't know the
> difference.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > What kind of relationship did he have with this runaway if any at
all?
> > > >
> > > > He met her on some internet chat room and offered her room and board
and
> > > > some
> > > > spending money in exchange for sex.
> > > >
> > > > That lasted for 8 months. He likes to tell the story becuase it makes
> him
> > > such
> > > > a stud that some 16 year old runaway wanted to sleep with him. For a
> whole
> > > > 8
> > > > months Sklansky got laid without having to call a hooker.
> > > >
> > > > 16 is the age of consent in Nevada, but apparnatly it's not the age of
> > > > majority. He didn't violate the law by having sex with her, but he
might
> > > have
> > > > violated the law by encourging her to come across state lines to sleep
> with
> > > > him. I think (but I'm not sure) he violated federal law by using the
> > > internet
> > > > to intice her to have sex with him.
> > > >
> > > > But his story is incomplete and just doesn't sound right to me.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Gary Carson
> > > > http://www.garycarson.com/
> > >
> > >
> > > thumbers on stars, dieseldyke on absolute/vegaspoker24/7
> > Gary Carson
> > http://www.garycarson.com
>
>
> thumbers on stars, dieseldyke on absolute/vegaspoker24/7
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Date: 17 Dec 2006 15:04:18
From: Susan
Subject: Re: OT: Nevada status laws
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that is one scarey thread. I'm sorry I read it.
"Gary Carson" <garycarson@alumni.northwestern.edu > wrote in message
news:1166388296$923225@recpoker.com...
>
>
>
> On Dec 17 2006 12:15 PM, pokerchimp wrote:
>
>> Sklansky related this story on 2+2 and then deleted it? Anyone else see
>> it? I'm no fan of Sklanksy's (although some of his books are great) but
>> this story seems very contrived and a convenient way to slander him.
>
> Yeah, sure, I made it up.
>
>>
>> OTOH, it's so hard to doubt you Gary, as you've always been so honest and
>> never prone to exageration.
>
> Do you have a clue how to use google.
>
> They have cached many pages so even deleting them doesn't delete them. He
> starts talking about the runaway about half way down this page
>
> http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:3r8BJYB5CZkJ:forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sho
> wflat.php%3FCat%3D0%26Number%3D8351456%26page%3D0%26fpart%3Dall%26vc%3D1+sklansk
> y+sex+with+runaway&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=2
>>
>
> But I made that one up too.
>
> I don't need to make up shit about David. He's truely out to lunch and
> does a
> fine job of self-slander. But I make it all up anyway because I'm jealous
> of a
> guy who raised a boy who couldnl't even get a job so David's friend gave
> the kid
> a job.
>
>
>> On Dec 17 2006 3:32 AM, Gary Carson wrote:
>>
>> > On Dec 17 2006 2:08 AM, Von Fourche wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > > That's not a trial though. Maybe David just doesn't know the
>> > > > difference.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > What kind of relationship did he have with this runaway if any at
>> > > all?
>> >
>> > He met her on some internet chat room and offered her room and board
>> > and
>> > some
>> > spending money in exchange for sex.
>> >
>> > That lasted for 8 months. He likes to tell the story becuase it makes
>> > him
>> such
>> > a stud that some 16 year old runaway wanted to sleep with him. For a
>> > whole
>> > 8
>> > months Sklansky got laid without having to call a hooker.
>> >
>> > 16 is the age of consent in Nevada, but apparnatly it's not the age of
>> > majority. He didn't violate the law by having sex with her, but he
>> > might
>> have
>> > violated the law by encourging her to come across state lines to sleep
>> > with
>> > him. I think (but I'm not sure) he violated federal law by using the
>> internet
>> > to intice her to have sex with him.
>> >
>> > But his story is incomplete and just doesn't sound right to me.
>> >
>> >
>> > Gary Carson
>> > http://www.garycarson.com/
>>
>>
>> thumbers on stars, dieseldyke on absolute/vegaspoker24/7
> Gary Carson
> http://www.garycarson.com
>
>
>
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Date: 17 Dec 2006 15:10:48
From: James L. Hankins
Subject: Re: OT: Nevada status laws
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"Susan" <sdbratt48@netscape.net > wrote in message
news:3gihh.1197$5z7.510@newsfe02.lga...
> that is one scarey thread. I'm sorry I read it.
Not scary. Sleazy more like it.
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Date: 17 Dec 21:05:17
From: Gary Carson
Subject: Re: OT: Nevada status laws
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On Dec 17 2006 3:02 PM, Susan wrote:
> that is one scarey thread. I'm sorry I read it.
How do you know I didn't counterfiet it?
>
>
> "Gary Carson" wrote in message
> news:1166388296$923225@recpoker.com...
> >
> >
> >
> > On Dec 17 2006 12:15 PM, pokerchimp wrote:
> >
> >> Sklansky related this story on 2+2 and then deleted it? Anyone else see
> >> it? I'm no fan of Sklanksy's (although some of his books are great) but
> >> this story seems very contrived and a convenient way to slander him.
> >
> > Yeah, sure, I made it up.
> >
> >>
> >> OTOH, it's so hard to doubt you Gary, as you've always been so honest and
> >> never prone to exageration.
> >
> > Do you have a clue how to use google.
> >
> > They have cached many pages so even deleting them doesn't delete them. He
> > starts talking about the runaway about half way down this page
> >
> >
> > http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:3r8BJYB5CZkJ:forumserver.twoplust
> > wo.com/sho
> >
> > wflat.php%3FCat%3D0%26Number%3D8351456%26page%3D0%26fpart%3Dall%26vc%3
> > D1+sklansk
> > y+sex+with+runaway&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=2
> >>
> >
> > But I made that one up too.
> >
> > I don't need to make up shit about David. He's truely out to lunch and
> > does a
> > fine job of self-slander. But I make it all up anyway because I'm jealous
> > of a
> > guy who raised a boy who couldnl't even get a job so David's friend gave
> > the kid
> > a job.
> >
> >
> >> On Dec 17 2006 3:32 AM, Gary Carson wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Dec 17 2006 2:08 AM, Von Fourche wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > > That's not a trial though. Maybe David just doesn't know the
> >> > > > difference.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > What kind of relationship did he have with this runaway if any at
> >> > > all?
> >> >
> >> > He met her on some internet chat room and offered her room and board
> >> > and
> >> > some
> >> > spending money in exchange for sex.
> >> >
> >> > That lasted for 8 months. He likes to tell the story becuase it makes
> >> > him
> >> such
> >> > a stud that some 16 year old runaway wanted to sleep with him. For a
> >> > whole
> >> > 8
> >> > months Sklansky got laid without having to call a hooker.
> >> >
> >> > 16 is the age of consent in Nevada, but apparnatly it's not the age of
> >> > majority. He didn't violate the law by having sex with her, but he
> >> > might
> >> have
> >> > violated the law by encourging her to come across state lines to sleep
> >> > with
> >> > him. I think (but I'm not sure) he violated federal law by using the
> >> internet
> >> > to intice her to have sex with him.
> >> >
> >> > But his story is incomplete and just doesn't sound right to me.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Gary Carson
> >> > http://www.garycarson.com/
> >>
> >>
> >> thumbers on stars, dieseldyke on absolute/vegaspoker24/7
> > Gary Carson
> > http://www.garycarson.com/
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________________________
> > New Feature: Mark All As Read! - /
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Date: 17 Dec 2006 15:03:19
From: Von Fourche
Subject: Re: OT: Nevada status laws
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"pokerchimp" <mixthing@se.rr.com > wrote in message
news:l2eg54xga3.ln2@recgroups.com...
> Sklansky related this story on 2+2 and then deleted it? Anyone else see
> it? I'm no fan of Sklanksy's (although some of his books are great) but
> this story seems very contrived and a convenient way to slander him.
>
> OTOH, it's so hard to doubt you Gary, as you've always been so honest and
> never prone to exageration.
Uh, a grown may sleeping with a sixteen year old? I thought that gets
you a won way ticket to jail and/or at least put on the sex offenders
registry. Even if it's legal in that state, where is the outrage? No one
has turned this guy in yet to the authorities for posting that story?
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Date: 17 Dec 2006 11:50:20
From: James L. Hankins
Subject: Re: OT: Nevada status laws
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"Gary Carson" <garycarson@alumni.northwestern.edu > wrote in message
news:1166344378$922996@recpoker.com...
>
>
>
> On Dec 17 2006 2:08 AM, Von Fourche wrote:
>
>
>
>> > That's not a trial though. Maybe David just doesn't know the
>> > difference.
>>
>>
>>
>> What kind of relationship did he have with this runaway if any at all?
>
> He met her on some internet chat room and offered her room and board and
> some
> spending money in exchange for sex.
>
> That lasted for 8 months. He likes to tell the story becuase it makes him
> such
> a stud that some 16 year old runaway wanted to sleep with him. For a whole
> 8
> months Sklansky got laid without having to call a hooker.
>
> 16 is the age of consent in Nevada, but apparnatly it's not the age of
> majority. He didn't violate the law by having sex with her, but he might
> have
> violated the law by encourging her to come across state lines to sleep
> with
> him. I think (but I'm not sure) he violated federal law by using the
> internet
> to intice her to have sex with him.
Federal law is what he needs to be concerned about if she was from out of
state. Why the hell would he even bring that up in the first place? You
really think it was just an ego thing?
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Date: 17 Dec 2006 14:25:47
From: Lynx
Subject: Re: OT: Nevada status laws
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> Why the hell would he even bring that up in the first place? You
> really think it was just an ego thing?
This is David Sklansky we're posting about. You really think there's
another explanation?
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Date: 17 Dec 20:36:50
From: Gary Carson
Subject: Re: OT: Nevada status laws
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On Dec 17 2006 11:50 AM, James L. Hankins wrote:
> > 16 is the age of consent in Nevada, but apparnatly it's not the age of
> > majority. He didn't violate the law by having sex with her, but he might
> > have
> > violated the law by encourging her to come across state lines to sleep
> > with
> > him. I think (but I'm not sure) he violated federal law by using the
> > internet
> > to intice her to have sex with him.
>
>
> Federal law is what he needs to be concerned about if she was from out of
> state. Why the hell would he even bring that up in the first place? You
> really think it was just an ego thing?
Yes, no question about it. He thinks it shows how manly he is. He's serious
about that, I have no doubt about that sincerity.
He has another thread where he claims he's a world class teacher of logic.
He's delusional and egocentric about a lot of things. I'm sure you've had
clients who think exactly like David.
He still brags about his SAT scores from 40 years ago, for christ sake. He quit
school at the Univ of Penn as a sophomore. The reason he gives is that none of
his teachers were smart enough to be allowed the privilege of having him as a
student.
Do the Federal internet predator laws require that the two participants be in
different states?
Gary Carson
http://www.garycarson.com
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Date: 18 Dec
From: arlo payne
Subject: Re: OT: Nevada status laws
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On Dec 17 2006 1:36 PM, Gary Carson wrote:
> Do the Federal internet predator laws require that the two participants be in
> different states?
>
> Gary Carson
> http://www.garycarson.com
>
>
No
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Date: 17 Dec 2006 19:48:39
From: James L. Hankins
Subject: Re: OT: Nevada status laws
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"arlo payne" <arlo_payne@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:1166401241$923355@recpoker.com...
>
>
>
> On Dec 17 2006 1:36 PM, Gary Carson wrote:
>
>
>> Do the Federal internet predator laws require that the two participants
>> be in
>> different states?
>>
>> Gary Carson
>> http://www.garycarson.com
>>
>>
> No
Correct.
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Date: 17 Dec 2006 23:25:54
From: Omaha8_Beach
Subject: Re: OT: Nevada status laws
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Gary Carson wrote:
> Even if 16 is the age of consent why isn't a an adult who assists a 16 year old
> in a status offense charged with some form of contributing?
>
He claims that she lead him to believe that she was 20 years old. This
probably doesn't matter but I'm surprised you didn't mention it, this
might explain why he wasn't prosecuted. I'd think that after 8 months
he would have figured out her real age, but on the forum he claims that
he was "hoodwinked." Oh, he also claims her mother and the arresting
officer wanted him to take her back.
I agree with you on the bragging part. Anyone that doesn't should read
the thread on 2+2 and judge for themself. The thing I don't understand
is why he just didn't go out with a woman that was say 40-45 years old.
There are plenty of black women this age that look relatively young
where he also wouldn't have to deal with the problems (even among
someone over 18) of dating someone 30-40 years younger than him.
Ken
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Date: 18 Dec
From: Gary Carson
Subject: Re: OT: Nevada status laws
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On Dec 18 2006 1:25 AM, Omaha8_Beach wrote:
> Gary Carson wrote:
> > Even if 16 is the age of consent why isn't a an adult who assists a 16 year
> > old
> > in a status offense charged with some form of contributing?
> >
>
> He claims that she lead him to believe that she was 20 years old. This
> probably doesn't matter but I'm surprised you didn't mention it, this
> might explain why he wasn't prosecuted. I'd think that after 8 months
> he would have figured out her real age, but on the forum he claims that
> he was "hoodwinked." Oh, he also claims her mother and the arresting
> officer wanted him to take her back.
Did he say that? I'm not going to go back and look but my recollection is that
he said that he managed to convince everyone that he thought she was 20.
I'm also under the impression that's not a defense. But I'm not sure about
that.
The way he worded things actually convinced me that he knew exactly how old she
was.
Him deleting two complete threads also influenced my thoughts.
And the part about some copy wanting him to "take her back" sounds like complete
bullshit to me.
If you really think about David's ego needs it just seems very clear he knew how
old she was. If he was played for a sucker by some 16 year old he wouldn't brag
about it, even if it did show what a stud he was. David can't cope with being
played for a sucker. He just can't handle it.
>
> I agree with you on the bragging part. Anyone that doesn't should read
> the thread on 2+2 and judge for themself. The thing I don't understand
> is why he just didn't go out with a woman that was say 40-45 years old.
> There are plenty of black women this age that look relatively young
> where he also wouldn't have to deal with the problems (even among
> someone over 18) of dating someone 30-40 years younger than him.
>
Because David has a very, very fragile ego. He wants to date very young women
for the same reason I don't have interest in them. They're boring. For him, he
likes that because they're easy for him to impress. For me, I don't like
boring.
Gary Carson
http://www.garycarson.com
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