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Date: 11 Dec 17:23:04
From: Porsche_Dan
Subject: OT: My Mother Died



For those of you who knew, my mother had terminal lung cancer and just passed
this morning. The doctors said she wouldn't make it to Thanksgiving but Mom was
very stubborn and wanted to make it to Christmas. Finally the Hospice people
told me to say good bye and give her permission to die, or something like that.
I told her she needed to spend Christmas with my father and two deceased
brothers, she died minutes later. A very wierd experience.

As the smoking/non smoking debate continues I can tell you lung cancer is a very
hard way to die. Of course she was too stubborn to admit it but smoking really
did hurt her life in many ways. Grandkids avoided her due to the smell, she
spent more time outside smoking than inside during family events, and visits to
her smoke laden home were far and few between. None of her six sons smoked, nor
do her 14 grandchildren, so maybe my Mom's smoking did have a bright side.

As for the right to die debate, I do not think anybody who has watched a loved
one die a slow and painful death could agrue against it. What do you say to a
loved one who asks you to help her end it, or why is it taking so long? I pushed
the nurses for better pain management and was told that they had limits to what
they could give her etc.... I caused a fuss and stated that my Mom had the right
to die with dignity! This caused problems and I was no longer allowed to have
the door closed while I was with her.

My Mother buried 3 husbands and 2 of her 6 sons. We never had much money but we
never went without. She always told us life was a rollar coaster and to enjoy
the ride. May she rest in peace.


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Date: 11 Dec 2006 11:01:01
From: Kinnipak
Subject: Re: OT: My Mother Died


So sorry for your loss Dan. My sincere sympathies to you and your family.

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Date: 11 Dec 2006 13:27:40
From: A Man Beaten by Jacks
Subject: Re: OT: My Mother Died


On Mon, 11 Dec 06 17:23:04 GMT, Porsche_Dan <43080932@recpoker.com > wrote:

>My Mother buried 3 husbands and 2 of her 6 sons. We never had much money but we
>never went without. She always told us life was a rollar coaster and to enjoy
>the ride. May she rest in peace.

Condolences.


 
Date: 11 Dec 2006 10:27:11
From: foldem
Subject: Re: OT: My Mother Died


Porsche_Dan <43080932@recpoker.com > wrote:

>
>For those of you who knew, my mother had terminal lung cancer and just passed
>this morning. The doctors said she wouldn't make it to Thanksgiving but Mom was
>very stubborn and wanted to make it to Christmas. Finally the Hospice people
>told me to say good bye and give her permission to die, or something like that.
>I told her she needed to spend Christmas with my father and two deceased
>brothers, she died minutes later. A very wierd experience.
>
>As the smoking/non smoking debate continues I can tell you lung cancer is a very
>hard way to die. Of course she was too stubborn to admit it but smoking really
>did hurt her life in many ways. Grandkids avoided her due to the smell, she
>spent more time outside smoking than inside during family events, and visits to
>her smoke laden home were far and few between. None of her six sons smoked, nor
>do her 14 grandchildren, so maybe my Mom's smoking did have a bright side.
>
>As for the right to die debate, I do not think anybody who has watched a loved
>one die a slow and painful death could agrue against it. What do you say to a
>loved one who asks you to help her end it, or why is it taking so long? I pushed
>the nurses for better pain management and was told that they had limits to what
>they could give her etc.... I caused a fuss and stated that my Mom had the right
>to die with dignity! This caused problems and I was no longer allowed to have
>the door closed while I was with her.
>
>My Mother buried 3 husbands and 2 of her 6 sons. We never had much money but we
>never went without. She always told us life was a rollar coaster and to enjoy
>the ride. May she rest in peace.

I also lost my mother this year. She died from lung disease caused by
smoking. My experience with her was similar to yours. Please accept my
condolences and kind wishes for you and your family.

Best,

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Date: 11 Dec 2006 10:26:26
From: will_gamble
Subject: Re: OT: My Mother Died


Sorry to hear it Dan, my condolences.

My mother died at 84 last March on my sisters birthday. She smoked
since she was 13 and had a lung removed 11 years ago and still smoked
like a train. That was her third cancer episode... had osteoporosis
and once had viral meningitis. Her goal was to make it to the national
average of 84 1/2.

Ah, the will to live. Her doctor said she was no longer a patient, she
was a science project.



 
Date: 11 Dec 18:23:10
From: CHarrison100
Subject: Re: OT: My Mother Died


My thoughts with you and your family. No one can ever replace a Mother.

On Dec 11 2006 12:23 PM, Porsche_Dan wrote:

>
> For those of you who knew, my mother had terminal lung cancer and just passed
> this morning. The doctors said she wouldn't make it to Thanksgiving but Mom
> was
> very stubborn and wanted to make it to Christmas. Finally the Hospice people
> told me to say good bye and give her permission to die, or something like
> that.
> I told her she needed to spend Christmas with my father and two deceased
> brothers, she died minutes later. A very wierd experience.
>
> As the smoking/non smoking debate continues I can tell you lung cancer is a
> very
> hard way to die. Of course she was too stubborn to admit it but smoking really
> did hurt her life in many ways. Grandkids avoided her due to the smell, she
> spent more time outside smoking than inside during family events, and visits
> to
> her smoke laden home were far and few between. None of her six sons smoked,
> nor
> do her 14 grandchildren, so maybe my Mom's smoking did have a bright side.
>
> As for the right to die debate, I do not think anybody who has watched a loved
> one die a slow and painful death could agrue against it. What do you say to a
> loved one who asks you to help her end it, or why is it taking so long? I
> pushed
> the nurses for better pain management and was told that they had limits to
> what
> they could give her etc.... I caused a fuss and stated that my Mom had the
> right
> to die with dignity! This caused problems and I was no longer allowed to have
> the door closed while I was with her.
>
> My Mother buried 3 husbands and 2 of her 6 sons. We never had much money but
> we
> never went without. She always told us life was a rollar coaster and to enjoy
> the ride. May she rest in peace.
>



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Date: 11 Dec 18:14:34
From: Welshman
Subject: Re: OT: My Mother Died




On Dec 11 2006 9:23 AM, Porsche_Dan wrote:

>
> For those of you who knew, my mother had terminal lung cancer and just passed
> this morning. The doctors said she wouldn't make it to Thanksgiving but Mom
> was
> very stubborn and wanted to make it to Christmas. Finally the Hospice people
> told me to say good bye and give her permission to die, or something like
> that.
> I told her she needed to spend Christmas with my father and two deceased
> brothers, she died minutes later. A very wierd experience.
>
> As the smoking/non smoking debate continues I can tell you lung cancer is a
> very
> hard way to die. Of course she was too stubborn to admit it but smoking really
> did hurt her life in many ways. Grandkids avoided her due to the smell, she
> spent more time outside smoking than inside during family events, and visits
> to
> her smoke laden home were far and few between. None of her six sons smoked,
> nor
> do her 14 grandchildren, so maybe my Mom's smoking did have a bright side.
>
> As for the right to die debate, I do not think anybody who has watched a loved
> one die a slow and painful death could agrue against it. What do you say to a
> loved one who asks you to help her end it, or why is it taking so long? I
> pushed
> the nurses for better pain management and was told that they had limits to
> what
> they could give her etc.... I caused a fuss and stated that my Mom had the
> right
> to die with dignity! This caused problems and I was no longer allowed to have
> the door closed while I was with her.
>
> My Mother buried 3 husbands and 2 of her 6 sons. We never had much money but
> we
> never went without. She always told us life was a rollar coaster and to enjoy
> the ride. May she rest in peace.
>
 
My condolences Dan.


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Date: 11 Dec 2006 09:58:36
From: ML
Subject: Re: OT: My Mother Died


I am sorry for your loss. I hope you have at least some peace knowing
her suffering is over.

I don't know if you'll read this by then, but the next few days might
be rather rough. They were for me, last February, when my Dad died.
My bother and sisters all mentioned having the same problems that I
did, so maybe you might also: total insomnia the first couple of
nights, a continual headache, total loss of appetite and uncontrollable
emotional swings. Take plenty of your favored pain killer, tissue and
maybe something to help you sleep. If you get where you feel weak and
are shaking, it may well be hunger. I know I did, but I never really
felt hungry. Try to eat something, even if it is just a little.

If you want to chat afterwards on what I went through after the initial
shock, feel free to email.

Take care, Dan. I am truly sorry for your loss.

ML



 
Date: 11 Dec 2006 09:52:25
From: Raider Fan
Subject: Re: OT: My Mother Died


On Dec 11 2006 11:23 AM, Porsche_Dan wrote:

>
> My Mother buried 3 husbands and 2 of her 6 sons. We never had much money but
we
> never went without. She always told us life was a rollar coaster and to enjoy
> the ride. May she rest in peace.

I'm sorry for your loss Dan. Hang in there.

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Date: 11 Dec 2006 09:45:03
From: KilgoreTrout
Subject: Re: OT: My Mother Died


My sympathies to you and your family. It sounds like you handled a very
difficult situation as well as you possibly could.

On Dec 11 2006 12:23 PM, Porsche_Dan wrote:

> For those of you who knew, my mother had terminal lung cancer and just passed
> this morning. The doctors said she wouldn't make it to Thanksgiving but Mom
was
> very stubborn and wanted to make it to Christmas. Finally the Hospice people
> told me to say good bye and give her permission to die, or something like
that.
> I told her she needed to spend Christmas with my father and two deceased
> brothers, she died minutes later. A very wierd experience.
>
> As the smoking/non smoking debate continues I can tell you lung cancer is a
very
> hard way to die. Of course she was too stubborn to admit it but smoking
really
> did hurt her life in many ways. Grandkids avoided her due to the smell, she
> spent more time outside smoking than inside during family events, and visits
to
> her smoke laden home were far and few between. None of her six sons smoked,
nor
> do her 14 grandchildren, so maybe my Mom's smoking did have a bright side.
>
> As for the right to die debate, I do not think anybody who has watched a
loved
> one die a slow and painful death could agrue against it. What do you say to a
> loved one who asks you to help her end it, or why is it taking so long? I
pushed
> the nurses for better pain management and was told that they had limits to
what
> they could give her etc.... I caused a fuss and stated that my Mom had the
right
> to die with dignity! This caused problems and I was no longer allowed to have
> the door closed while I was with her.
>
> My Mother buried 3 husbands and 2 of her 6 sons. We never had much money but
we
> never went without. She always told us life was a rollar coaster and to enjoy
> the ride. May she rest in peace.

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Date: 11 Dec 18:06:27
From: ranchguy
Subject: Re: OT: My Mother Died


God bless you and your family.

On Dec 11 2006 10:45 AM, KilgoreTrout wrote:

> My sympathies to you and your family. It sounds like you handled a very
> difficult situation as well as you possibly could.
>
> On Dec 11 2006 12:23 PM, Porsche_Dan wrote:
>
> > For those of you who knew, my mother had terminal lung cancer and just
> > passed
> > this morning. The doctors said she wouldn't make it to Thanksgiving but Mom
> was
> > very stubborn and wanted to make it to Christmas. Finally the Hospice people
> > told me to say good bye and give her permission to die, or something like
> that.
> > I told her she needed to spend Christmas with my father and two deceased
> > brothers, she died minutes later. A very wierd experience.
> >
> > As the smoking/non smoking debate continues I can tell you lung cancer is a
> very
> > hard way to die. Of course she was too stubborn to admit it but smoking
> really
> > did hurt her life in many ways. Grandkids avoided her due to the smell, she
> > spent more time outside smoking than inside during family events, and visits
> to
> > her smoke laden home were far and few between. None of her six sons smoked,
> nor
> > do her 14 grandchildren, so maybe my Mom's smoking did have a bright side.
> >
> > As for the right to die debate, I do not think anybody who has watched a
> loved
> > one die a slow and painful death could agrue against it. What do you say to
> > a
> > loved one who asks you to help her end it, or why is it taking so long? I
> pushed
> > the nurses for better pain management and was told that they had limits to
> what
> > they could give her etc.... I caused a fuss and stated that my Mom had the
> right
> > to die with dignity! This caused problems and I was no longer allowed to
> > have
> > the door closed while I was with her.
> >
> > My Mother buried 3 husbands and 2 of her 6 sons. We never had much money but
> we
> > never went without. She always told us life was a rollar coaster and to
> > enjoy
> > the ride. May she rest in peace.



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Date: 11 Dec 2006 09:54:02
From: Will in New Haven
Subject: Re: OT: My Mother Died



Porsche_Dan wrote:
> For those of you who knew, my mother had terminal lung cancer and just passed
> this morning. The doctors said she wouldn't make it to Thanksgiving but Mom was
> very stubborn and wanted to make it to Christmas. Finally the Hospice people
> told me to say good bye and give her permission to die, or something like that.
> I told her she needed to spend Christmas with my father and two deceased
> brothers, she died minutes later. A very wierd experience.

My heartfelt condolonces. My mom taught us all how to play cards and
she has been gone for a little while.

My mom went after a fairly long remission, which she got to spend with
her great-granddaughter, my grand-niece. She went happy, or as happy as
can be.

>
> As the smoking/non smoking debate continues I can tell you lung cancer is a very
> hard way to die. Of course she was too stubborn to admit it but smoking really
> did hurt her life in many ways. Grandkids avoided her due to the smell, she
> spent more time outside smoking than inside during family events, and visits to
> her smoke laden home were far and few between. None of her six sons smoked, nor
> do her 14 grandchildren, so maybe my Mom's smoking did have a bright side.

My mom smoked and the tumor that got her may have been related. She did
quit and had a smoke-free old age, which was good.

>
> As for the right to die debate, I do not think anybody who has watched a loved
> one die a slow and painful death could agrue against it. What do you say to a
> loved one who asks you to help her end it, or why is it taking so long? I pushed
> the nurses for better pain management and was told that they had limits to what
> they could give her etc.... I caused a fuss and stated that my Mom had the right
> to die with dignity! This caused problems and I was no longer allowed to have
> the door closed while I was with her.

My mom's remission was a joyful time. I am sorry your mom didn't have a
long pain-free time to say goodby. It was a blessing.

>
> My Mother buried 3 husbands and 2 of her 6 sons. We never had much money but we
> never went without. She always told us life was a rollar coaster and to enjoy
> the ride. May she rest in peace.

Amen, or whatever doubters like me should say.

Will in New Haven

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Date: 11 Dec 2006 09:50:15
From: bo dark
Subject: Re: OT: My Mother Died



Porsche_Dan wrote:
> For those of you who knew, my mother had terminal lung cancer and just passed
> this morning. The doctors said she wouldn't make it to Thanksgiving but Mom was
> very stubborn and wanted to make it to Christmas. Finally the Hospice people
> told me to say good bye and give her permission to die, or something like that.
> I told her she needed to spend Christmas with my father and two deceased
> brothers, she died minutes later. A very wierd experience.
>
> As the smoking/non smoking debate continues I can tell you lung cancer is a very
> hard way to die. Of course she was too stubborn to admit it but smoking really
> did hurt her life in many ways. Grandkids avoided her due to the smell, she
> spent more time outside smoking than inside during family events, and visits to
> her smoke laden home were far and few between. None of her six sons smoked, nor
> do her 14 grandchildren, so maybe my Mom's smoking did have a bright side.
>
> As for the right to die debate, I do not think anybody who has watched a loved
> one die a slow and painful death could agrue against it. What do you say to a
> loved one who asks you to help her end it, or why is it taking so long? I pushed
> the nurses for better pain management and was told that they had limits to what
> they could give her etc.... I caused a fuss and stated that my Mom had the right
> to die with dignity! This caused problems and I was no longer allowed to have
> the door closed while I was with her.
>
> My Mother buried 3 husbands and 2 of her 6 sons. We never had much money but we
> never went without. She always told us life was a rollar coaster and to enjoy
> the ride. May she rest in peace.
>
>
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my condolences to you and your family,i know it's rough to watch a
loved one suffer.



 
Date: 11 Dec 17:42:39
From: Super Steamer
Subject: Re: OT: My Mother Died



I'm sorry to hear that, condolences and best wishes to your family.

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Date: 11 Dec 17:28:34
From: Chris in Texas
Subject: Re: OT: My Mother Died





On Dec 11 2006 11:23 AM, Porsche_Dan wrote:

>

My sympathies, Dan. 

Chris

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Date: 11 Dec 17:25:16
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: OT: My Mother Died



My heart goes out to you Dan. May your mother rest in peace with her passed
loved ones.

T


On Dec 11 2006 10:23 AM, Porsche_Dan wrote:

>
> For those of you who knew, my mother had terminal lung cancer and just passed
> this morning. The doctors said she wouldn't make it to Thanksgiving but Mom
> was
> very stubborn and wanted to make it to Christmas. Finally the Hospice people
> told me to say good bye and give her permission to die, or something like
> that.
> I told her she needed to spend Christmas with my father and two deceased
> brothers, she died minutes later. A very wierd experience.
>
> As the smoking/non smoking debate continues I can tell you lung cancer is a
> very
> hard way to die. Of course she was too stubborn to admit it but smoking really
> did hurt her life in many ways. Grandkids avoided her due to the smell, she
> spent more time outside smoking than inside during family events, and visits
> to
> her smoke laden home were far and few between. None of her six sons smoked,
> nor
> do her 14 grandchildren, so maybe my Mom's smoking did have a bright side.
>
> As for the right to die debate, I do not think anybody who has watched a loved
> one die a slow and painful death could agrue against it. What do you say to a
> loved one who asks you to help her end it, or why is it taking so long? I
> pushed
> the nurses for better pain management and was told that they had limits to
> what
> they could give her etc.... I caused a fuss and stated that my Mom had the
> right
> to die with dignity! This caused problems and I was no longer allowed to have
> the door closed while I was with her.
>
> My Mother buried 3 husbands and 2 of her 6 sons. We never had much money but
> we
> never went without. She always told us life was a rollar coaster and to enjoy
> the ride. May she rest in peace.
>



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Date: 11 Dec 2006 20:26:41
From: mccard
Subject: Re: My Mother Died



"Porsche_Dan" <43080932@recpoker.com > wrote in message
news:1165857784$919640@recpoker.com...
>
> For those of you who knew, my mother had terminal lung cancer and just
> passed
> this morning. The doctors said she wouldn't make it to Thanksgiving but
> Mom was
> very stubborn and wanted to make it to Christmas. Finally the Hospice
> people
> told me to say good bye and give her permission to die, or something like
> that.
> I told her she needed to spend Christmas with my father and two deceased
> brothers, she died minutes later. A very wierd experience.
>
> As the smoking/non smoking debate continues I can tell you lung cancer is
> a very
> hard way to die. Of course she was too stubborn to admit it but smoking
> really
> did hurt her life in many ways. Grandkids avoided her due to the smell,
> she
> spent more time outside smoking than inside during family events, and
> visits to
> her smoke laden home were far and few between. None of her six sons
> smoked, nor
> do her 14 grandchildren, so maybe my Mom's smoking did have a bright side.
>
> As for the right to die debate, I do not think anybody who has watched a
> loved
> one die a slow and painful death could agrue against it. What do you say
> to a
> loved one who asks you to help her end it, or why is it taking so long? I
> pushed
> the nurses for better pain management and was told that they had limits to
> what
> they could give her etc.... I caused a fuss and stated that my Mom had the
> right
> to die with dignity! This caused problems and I was no longer allowed to
> have
> the door closed while I was with her.
>
> My Mother buried 3 husbands and 2 of her 6 sons. We never had much money
> but we
> never went without. She always told us life was a rollar coaster and to
> enjoy
> the ride. May she rest in peace.
>
Sorry for your loss.




 
Date: 11 Dec 2006 18:10:53
From: FellKnight
Subject: Re: OT: My Mother Died


On Dec 11 2006 10:23 AM, Porsche_Dan wrote:

> For those of you who knew, my mother had terminal lung cancer and just passed
> this morning. The doctors said she wouldn't make it to Thanksgiving but Mom
was
> very stubborn and wanted to make it to Christmas. Finally the Hospice people
> told me to say good bye and give her permission to die, or something like
that.
> I told her she needed to spend Christmas with my father and two deceased
> brothers, she died minutes later. A very wierd experience.
>
> As the smoking/non smoking debate continues I can tell you lung cancer is a
very
> hard way to die. Of course she was too stubborn to admit it but smoking
really
> did hurt her life in many ways. Grandkids avoided her due to the smell, she
> spent more time outside smoking than inside during family events, and visits
to
> her smoke laden home were far and few between. None of her six sons smoked,
nor
> do her 14 grandchildren, so maybe my Mom's smoking did have a bright side.
>
> As for the right to die debate, I do not think anybody who has watched a
loved
> one die a slow and painful death could agrue against it. What do you say to a
> loved one who asks you to help her end it, or why is it taking so long? I
pushed
> the nurses for better pain management and was told that they had limits to
what
> they could give her etc.... I caused a fuss and stated that my Mom had the
right
> to die with dignity! This caused problems and I was no longer allowed to have
> the door closed while I was with her.
>
> My Mother buried 3 husbands and 2 of her 6 sons. We never had much money but
we
> never went without. She always told us life was a rollar coaster and to enjoy
> the ride. May she rest in peace.

I am very sorry to hear about your loss.

Fell

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Date: 12 Dec
From: str8jacket
Subject: Re: OT: My Mother Died


I'm sorry for your loss. I wish you and your family future health and happiness.


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Date: 12 Dec
From: Ericg
Subject: Re: OT: My Mother Died



My sincere condolences on your loss


Eric

On Dec 11 2006 12:23 PM, Porsche_Dan wrote:

>
> For those of you who knew, my mother had terminal lung cancer and just passed
> this morning. The doctors said she wouldn't make it to Thanksgiving but Mom
> was
> very stubborn and wanted to make it to Christmas. Finally the Hospice people
> told me to say good bye and give her permission to die, or something like
> that.
> I told her she needed to spend Christmas with my father and two deceased
> brothers, she died minutes later. A very wierd experience.
>
> As the smoking/non smoking debate continues I can tell you lung cancer is a
> very
> hard way to die. Of course she was too stubborn to admit it but smoking really
> did hurt her life in many ways. Grandkids avoided her due to the smell, she
> spent more time outside smoking than inside during family events, and visits
> to
> her smoke laden home were far and few between. None of her six sons smoked,
> nor
> do her 14 grandchildren, so maybe my Mom's smoking did have a bright side.
>
> As for the right to die debate, I do not think anybody who has watched a loved
> one die a slow and painful death could agrue against it. What do you say to a
> loved one who asks you to help her end it, or why is it taking so long? I
> pushed
> the nurses for better pain management and was told that they had limits to
> what
> they could give her etc.... I caused a fuss and stated that my Mom had the
> right
> to die with dignity! This caused problems and I was no longer allowed to have
> the door closed while I was with her.
>
> My Mother buried 3 husbands and 2 of her 6 sons. We never had much money but
> we
> never went without. She always told us life was a rollar coaster and to enjoy
> the ride. May she rest in peace.
>



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Date: 12 Dec
From: srawski
Subject: Re: OT: My Mother Died


Please accept my condolences - Smoking
sucks and many older people didn't know
when they started the health effects and
it seems so hard to quit.  The new
generation of smokers have no excuse. 
-srawski

On Dec 11 2006 12:23 PM, Porsche_Dan
wrote:

>
> For those of you who knew, my mother
> had terminal lung cancer and just
> passed
> this morning. The doctors said she
> wouldn't make it to Thanksgiving but
> Mom was
> very stubborn and wanted to make it to
> Christmas. Finally the Hospice
> people
> told me to say good bye and give her
> permission to die, or something like
> that.
> I told her she needed to spend
> Christmas with my father and two
> deceased
> brothers, she died minutes later. A
> very wierd experience.
>
> As the smoking/non smoking debate
> continues I can tell you lung cancer
> is a very
> hard way to die. Of course she was too
> stubborn to admit it but smoking
> really
> did hurt her life in many ways.
> Grandkids avoided her due to the
> smell, she
> spent more time outside smoking than
> inside during family events, and
> visits to
> her smoke laden home were far and few
> between. None of her six sons
> smoked, nor
> do her 14 grandchildren, so maybe my
> Mom's smoking did have a bright
> side.
>
> As for the right to die debate, I do
> not think anybody who has watched a
> loved
> one die a slow and painful death could
> agrue against it. What do you say to
> a
> loved one who asks you to help her end
> it, or why is it taking so long? I
> pushed
> the nurses for better pain management
> and was told that they had limits to
> what
> they could give her etc.... I caused a
> fuss and stated that my Mom had the
> right
> to die with dignity! This caused
> problems and I was no longer allowed
> to have
> the door closed while I was with her.
>
> My Mother buried 3 husbands and 2 of
> her 6 sons. We never had much money
> but we
> never went without. She always told us
> life was a rollar coaster and to
> enjoy
> the ride. May she rest in peace.
>
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Date: 11 Dec 2006 17:45:00
From: bub
Subject: Re: OT: My Mother Died




Condolences.








On Mon, 11 Dec 06 17:23:04 GMT, Porsche_Dan <43080932@recpoker.com >
wrote:

>
>For those of you who knew, my mother had terminal lung cancer and just passed
>this morning. The doctors said she wouldn't make it to Thanksgiving but Mom was
>very stubborn and wanted to make it to Christmas. Finally the Hospice people
>told me to say good bye and give her permission to die, or something like that.
>I told her she needed to spend Christmas with my father and two deceased
>brothers, she died minutes later. A very wierd experience.
>
>As the smoking/non smoking debate continues I can tell you lung cancer is a very
>hard way to die. Of course she was too stubborn to admit it but smoking really
>did hurt her life in many ways. Grandkids avoided her due to the smell, she
>spent more time outside smoking than inside during family events, and visits to
>her smoke laden home were far and few between. None of her six sons smoked, nor
>do her 14 grandchildren, so maybe my Mom's smoking did have a bright side.
>
>As for the right to die debate, I do not think anybody who has watched a loved
>one die a slow and painful death could agrue against it. What do you say to a
>loved one who asks you to help her end it, or why is it taking so long? I pushed
>the nurses for better pain management and was told that they had limits to what
>they could give her etc.... I caused a fuss and stated that my Mom had the right
>to die with dignity! This caused problems and I was no longer allowed to have
>the door closed while I was with her.
>
>My Mother buried 3 husbands and 2 of her 6 sons. We never had much money but we
>never went without. She always told us life was a rollar coaster and to enjoy
>the ride. May she rest in peace.
>
>
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Date: 11 Dec 2006 15:51:46
From: your name
Subject: Re: My Mother Died



"Porsche_Dan" <43080932@recpoker.com > wrote in message
news:1165857784$919640@recpoker.com...
>
> For those of you who knew, my mother had terminal lung cancer and just
> passed
> this morning. The doctors said she wouldn't make it to Thanksgiving but
> Mom was
> very stubborn and wanted to make it to Christmas. Finally the Hospice
> people
> told me to say good bye and give her permission to die, or something like
> that.
> I told her she needed to spend Christmas with my father and two deceased
> brothers, she died minutes later. A very wierd experience.
>
> As the smoking/non smoking debate continues I can tell you lung cancer is
> a very
> hard way to die. Of course she was too stubborn to admit it but smoking
> really
> did hurt her life in many ways. Grandkids avoided her due to the smell,
> she
> spent more time outside smoking than inside during family events, and
> visits to
> her smoke laden home were far and few between. None of her six sons
> smoked, nor
> do her 14 grandchildren, so maybe my Mom's smoking did have a bright side.
>
> As for the right to die debate, I do not think anybody who has watched a
> loved
> one die a slow and painful death could agrue against it. What do you say
> to a
> loved one who asks you to help her end it, or why is it taking so long? I
> pushed
> the nurses for better pain management and was told that they had limits to
> what
> they could give her etc.... I caused a fuss and stated that my Mom had the
> right
> to die with dignity! This caused problems and I was no longer allowed to
> have
> the door closed while I was with her.
>
> My Mother buried 3 husbands and 2 of her 6 sons. We never had much money
> but we
> never went without. She always told us life was a rollar coaster and to
> enjoy
> the ride. May she rest in peace.

My condolences as well Dan. I lost my father just over two years ago to non
small cell carcinoma of the lung.
He was 67 and hadn't smoked in 25 years, he was convinced that smoking was
the culprit. He stayed strong and vibrant for most of the time during
treatment and only spent about 8 days in the hospital( other than the semi
weekly visits for treatment)
The end came fast, but was brutal. I remember standing at his bedside as he
slept and doctor told us that the reality was there was no hope( recent
chest scans), his lungs were gone and we needed to make the decision as to
whether to remove his bi-pap mask and let him go naturally. He would not
make it out of the hospital.
I remember my mother struggling with what she knew was the right thing to
do, countered with the knowledge that what was about to happen would lead
him to his death.
At that point Dad woke. He looked at us all and smiled slightly( as best he
could) reached up and removed the mask himself and laid it at his side, he
made the decision himself. He seemed to relax, and within 15 minutes he was
gone.
I am thankful that I was there, and rest in the fact that he had asked me to
quit smoking, which I had done( and never will again), and he was aware of
that fact.

I wish you the best.






 
Date: 11 Dec 2006 14:40:25
From: igotskillz com
Subject: Re: OT: My Mother Died


Sorry to hear Dan, Best wishes to you and yours. I offer my condolences.

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Date: 11 Dec 2006 13:01:06
From: pokerchimp
Subject: Re: OT: My Mother Died


So sorry for your loss Dan. She raised at least one very nice son.

On Dec 11 2006 12:23 PM, Porsche_Dan wrote:

> For those of you who knew, my mother had terminal lung cancer and just passed
> this morning. The doctors said she wouldn't make it to Thanksgiving but Mom
was
> very stubborn and wanted to make it to Christmas. Finally the Hospice people
> told me to say good bye and give her permission to die, or something like
that.
> I told her she needed to spend Christmas with my father and two deceased
> brothers, she died minutes later. A very wierd experience.
>
> As the smoking/non smoking debate continues I can tell you lung cancer is a
very
> hard way to die. Of course she was too stubborn to admit it but smoking
really
> did hurt her life in many ways. Grandkids avoided her due to the smell, she
> spent more time outside smoking than inside during family events, and visits
to
> her smoke laden home were far and few between. None of her six sons smoked,
nor
> do her 14 grandchildren, so maybe my Mom's smoking did have a bright side.
>
> As for the right to die debate, I do not think anybody who has watched a
loved
> one die a slow and painful death could agrue against it. What do you say to a
> loved one who asks you to help her end it, or why is it taking so long? I
pushed
> the nurses for better pain management and was told that they had limits to
what
> they could give her etc.... I caused a fuss and stated that my Mom had the
right
> to die with dignity! This caused problems and I was no longer allowed to have
> the door closed while I was with her.
>
> My Mother buried 3 husbands and 2 of her 6 sons. We never had much money but
we
> never went without. She always told us life was a rollar coaster and to enjoy
> the ride. May she rest in peace.


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Date: 11 Dec 2006 12:48:23
From: Bronzedodger
Subject: Re: OT: My Mother Died


On Dec 11 2006 12:23 PM, Porsche_Dan wrote:

> This caused problems and I was no longer allowed to have
> the door closed while I was with her.

Better to have tried to help than to sit on your hands - that's all anyone
could ask.

> My Mother buried 3 husbands and 2 of her 6 sons. We never had much money but
we
> never went without. She always told us life was a rollar coaster and to enjoy
> the ride. May she rest in peace.

The big thing is that she knew she was not alone - I hope you and the rest
of your family are doing as well as can be expected.

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Date: 11 Dec 20:39:21
From: estebanAA
Subject: Re: OT: My Mother Died


Sorry to hear that buddy may she  rest in peace. hope you find peace in th fact
she is in a better place with no more pain. estebanAA

On Dec 11 2006 11:23 AM, Porsche_Dan wrote:

>
> For those of you who knew, my mother had terminal lung cancer and just passed
> this morning. The doctors said she wouldn't make it to Thanksgiving but Mom
> was
> very stubborn and wanted to make it to Christmas. Finally the Hospice people
> told me to say good bye and give her permission to die, or something like
> that.
> I told her she needed to spend Christmas with my father and two deceased
> brothers, she died minutes later. A very wierd experience.
>
> As the smoking/non smoking debate continues I can tell you lung cancer is a
> very
> hard way to die. Of course she was too stubborn to admit it but smoking really
> did hurt her life in many ways. Grandkids avoided her due to the smell, she
> spent more time outside smoking than inside during family events, and visits
> to
> her smoke laden home were far and few between. None of her six sons smoked,
> nor
> do her 14 grandchildren, so maybe my Mom's smoking did have a bright side.
>
> As for the right to die debate, I do not think anybody who has watched a loved
> one die a slow and painful death could agrue against it. What do you say to a
> loved one who asks you to help her end it, or why is it taking so long? I
> pushed
> the nurses for better pain management and was told that they had limits to
> what
> they could give her etc.... I caused a fuss and stated that my Mom had the
> right
> to die with dignity! This caused problems and I was no longer allowed to have
> the door closed while I was with her.
>
> My Mother buried 3 husbands and 2 of her 6 sons. We never had much money but
> we
> never went without. She always told us life was a rollar coaster and to enjoy
> the ride. May she rest in peace.
>



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Date: 11 Dec 2006 20:18:49
From: beerboy
Subject: Re: My Mother Died


In news:1165857784$919640@recpoker.com,
Porsche_Dan <43080932@recpoker.com > typed:


 
Date: 11 Dec 20:04:05
From: Brian
Subject: Re: OT: My Mother Died


All the best to you and your family.

On Dec 11 2006 11:23 AM, Porsche_Dan wrote:

>
> For those of you who knew, my mother had terminal lung cancer and just passed
> this morning. The doctors said she wouldn't make it to Thanksgiving but Mom
> was
> very stubborn and wanted to make it to Christmas. Finally the Hospice people
> told me to say good bye and give her permission to die, or something like
> that.
> I told her she needed to spend Christmas with my father and two deceased
> brothers, she died minutes later. A very wierd experience.
>
> As the smoking/non smoking debate continues I can tell you lung cancer is a
> very
> hard way to die. Of course she was too stubborn to admit it but smoking really
> did hurt her life in many ways. Grandkids avoided her due to the smell, she
> spent more time outside smoking than inside during family events, and visits
> to
> her smoke laden home were far and few between. None of her six sons smoked,
> nor
> do her 14 grandchildren, so maybe my Mom's smoking did have a bright side.
>
> As for the right to die debate, I do not think anybody who has watched a loved
> one die a slow and painful death could agrue against it. What do you say to a
> loved one who asks you to help her end it, or why is it taking so long? I
> pushed
> the nurses for better pain management and was told that they had limits to
> what
> they could give her etc.... I caused a fuss and stated that my Mom had the
> right
> to die with dignity! This caused problems and I was no longer allowed to have
> the door closed while I was with her.
>
> My Mother buried 3 husbands and 2 of her 6 sons. We never had much money but
> we
> never went without. She always told us life was a rollar coaster and to enjoy
> the ride. May she rest in peace.
>



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Date: 11 Dec 19:35:07
From: Smorgass Bored
Subject: Re: OT: My Mother Died





On Dec 11 2006 1:23 PM, Porsche_Dan wrote:

>
> For those of you who knew, my mother had terminal lung cancer and just passed
> this morning. The doctors said she wouldn't make it to Thanksgiving but Mom
> was
> very stubborn and wanted to make it to Christmas. Finally the Hospice people
> told me to say good bye and give her permission to die, or something like
> that.
> I told her she needed to spend Christmas with my father and two deceased
> brothers, she died minutes later. A very wierd experience.


My heartfelt condolences to you and your family.

Doug





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Date: 11 Dec 19:19:07
From: Bill Starr
Subject: Re: OT: My Mother Died





On Dec 11 2006 11:23 AM, Porsche_Dan wrote:

>
> For those of you who knew, my mother had terminal lung cancer and just passed
> this morning. The doctors said she wouldn't make it to Thanksgiving but Mom
> was
> very stubborn and wanted to make it to Christmas. Finally the Hospice people
> told me to say good bye and give her permission to die, or something like
> that.
> I told her she needed to spend Christmas with my father and two deceased
> brothers, she died minutes later. A very wierd experience.
>
> As the smoking/non smoking debate continues I can tell you lung cancer is a
> very
> hard way to die. Of course she was too stubborn to admit it but smoking really
> did hurt her life in many ways. Grandkids avoided her due to the smell, she
> spent more time outside smoking than inside during family events, and visits
> to
> her smoke laden home were far and few between. None of her six sons smoked,
> nor
> do her 14 grandchildren, so maybe my Mom's smoking did have a bright side.
>
> As for the right to die debate, I do not think anybody who has watched a loved
> one die a slow and painful death could agrue against it. What do you say to a
> loved one who asks you to help her end it, or why is it taking so long? I
> pushed
> the nurses for better pain management and was told that they had limits to
> what
> they could give her etc.... I caused a fuss and stated that my Mom had the
> right
> to die with dignity! This caused problems and I was no longer allowed to have
> the door closed while I was with her.
>
> My Mother buried 3 husbands and 2 of her 6 sons. We never had much money but
> we
> never went without. She always told us life was a rollar coaster and to enjoy
> the ride. May she rest in peace.
>

Sorry for your loss. May your Mother rest in peace.

Bill

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Date: 12 Dec 2006 06:33:30
From: Tracy Daniel
Subject: Re: My Mother Died


My condolences. I am sorry for your loss. It is hard seeing someone you
love suffer.

Tracy




 
Date: 12 Dec 2006 12:00:58
From: greatbrit
Subject: Re: OT: My Mother Died


Very sorry for your loss Dan. I hope your post saved a few lives today.

Paul