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Date: 28 Nov 2006 07:12:13
From: Will_gamble
Subject: OT: Michael Vick
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What a moron. Jim Mora was right... a coach killer. Employees get fired for blogs and this moron gives everybody the double barrel 'FU' on national television and will probably be fined the equivalent of $20 to the average fan. I saw that half hearted, GED attempt at an apology. Pathetic. Why won't people like the ESPN MNF crew talk about the gesture and false apology? Instead, they just sweep it under the rug. Just when I thought some progress was being made in bringing 'professional' back to professional sports. I know it is probably not apples to apples, but Michael Richards is still making news and Michael Vick is Otay. Pitiful -------- : the next generation of web-newsreaders : http://www.recgroups.com
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 10:27:27
From: Wayno
Subject: Re: OT: Michael Vick
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On Nov 28 2006 9:12 AM, Will_gamble wrote: > What a moron. > > Jim Mora was right... a coach killer. > > Employees get fired for blogs and this moron gives everybody the-- I never see this mentioned-- ever-- but it usually is the case that these guys are giving ONE guy the finger, and maybe his buddy or two. Maybe this is a distinction without a difference, but the media always writes it up like,"he gave all the fans the finger". This would be a quantitatively bigger and gigantically more jumbo gesture involving a very slow, graduated twirl whose purpose was to shine out on the whole stadium. Just mentioning this in the interest of media fairness and accuracy. Okay. Carry on. ----------------------------------------------------------- "Her vocabulary was as bad as, like, whatever." --Unknown -------- * kill-files, watch-lists, favorites, and more.. www.recgroups.com
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 13:13:08
From: Raider Fan
Subject: Re: OT: Michael Vick
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On Nov 28 2006 12:27 PM, Wayno wrote: > > I never see this mentioned-- ever-- but it usually is the case that > these guys are giving ONE guy the finger, and maybe his buddy or two. > Maybe this is a distinction without a difference, but the media always > writes it up like,"he gave all the fans the finger". This would be a > quantitatively bigger and gigantically more jumbo gesture involving a very > slow, graduated twirl whose purpose was to shine out on the whole stadium. > > Just mentioning this in the interest of media fairness and accuracy. > Okay. Carry on. > Exactly. Think Stone Cold Steve Austin. Now THAT was giving all the fans the finger. ------ RecGroups : the community-oriented newsreader : www.recgroups.com
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 15:05:45
From: Wayno
Subject: Re: OT: Michael Vick
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On Nov 28 2006 3:13 PM, Raider Fan wrote: > Exactly. Think Stone Cold Steve Austin. Now THAT was giving all the fans > the finger. True that. But the fact is, you can't fill hours and hours of sports talk radio with a heated discussion of this subject if the story is written: "One guy and his buddy harrassed Vick near the tunnel as he was leaving and Vick shot them the Duo-Finger." It's much more of a story everybody can argue about if Vick is giving the finger to all the fans, the whole stadium, the city of Atlanta, and the state of Georgia, rather than one or two yo-yo's. Not that Vick himself isn't a yo-yo. I don't know, maybe he is, I don't know the guy. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Her vocabulary was as bad as, like, whatever." --Unknown -------- RecGroups : the community-oriented newsreader : www.recgroups.com
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Date: 28 Nov 16:08:09
From: freakinfoldalready
Subject: Re: OT: Michael Vick
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Vick giving someone the finger isnt a coach killing move, btw. The WR group are the coach killers right now. And no comparing Michael Richards to Vick isn't even close to apples to apples. Calling someone a n----r vs flipping a group of people off??? seriously come back to reality On Nov 28 2006 10:12 AM, Will_gamble wrote: > What a moron. > > Jim Mora was right... a coach killer. > > Employees get fired for blogs and this moron gives everybody the double > barrel 'FU' on national television and will probably be fined the > equivalent of $20 to the average fan. > > I saw that half hearted, GED attempt at an apology. Pathetic. Why won't > people like the ESPN MNF crew talk about the gesture and false apology? > Instead, they just sweep it under the rug. Just when I thought some > progress was being made in bringing 'professional' back to professional > sports. > > I know it is probably not apples to apples, but Michael Richards is still > making news and Michael Vick is Otay. > > Pitiful _______________________________________________________________ Your Online Poker Community - http://www.recpoker.com
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 16:15:20
From: Al Gore's Dead Cat
Subject: Re: OT: Michael Vick
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"freakinfoldalready" <43085980@recpoker.com > wrote in message > Calling someone a n----r vs flipping a group of people off??? seriously > come > back to reality Vick is admired and looked up to by young people. What he did was inexcusable. He showed his true colors with that gesture.
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Date: 28 Nov 16:34:41
From: Gary Carson
Subject: Re: OT: Michael Vick
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On Nov 28 2006 10:15 AM, Al Gore's Dead Cat wrote: > "freakinfoldalready" <43085980@recpoker.com> wrote in message > > Calling someone a n----r vs flipping a group of people off??? seriously > > come > > back to reality > > Vick is admired and looked up to by young people. What he did was > inexcusable. He showed his true colors with that gesture. I think his true color has been pretty clear since about the time of his birth. Maybe before that. Gary Carson http://www.garycarson.com _______________________________________________________________ Posted using RecPoker.com v2.2 - http://www.recpoker.com
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Date: 28 Nov 16:19:56
From: freakinfoldalready
Subject: Re: OT: Michael Vick
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and those true colors are? Have you ever givensomeone the finger? did that show your true colors? if so what are they On Nov 28 2006 11:15 AM, Al Gore's Dead Cat wrote: > "freakinfoldalready" <43085980@recpoker.com> wrote in message > > Calling someone a n----r vs flipping a group of people off??? seriously > > come > > back to reality > > Vick is admired and looked up to by young people. What he did was > inexcusable. He showed his true colors with that gesture. _______________________________________________________________ New Feature: Mark All As Read! - http://www.recpoker.com
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 10:37:57
From: Will_gamble
Subject: Re: OT: Michael Vick
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On Nov 28 2006 10:19 AM, freakinfoldalready wrote: > and those true colors are? > > Have you ever givensomeone the finger? did that show your true colors? > if so what are they > > A so called professional athlete and public figure makings millions a year should be held to a higher standard. Not to mention that he is at work. Try giving the finger to your customers at work in front of your boss when they complain about your work. What will happen to you? Pay me 5 million a year and boo me and I will smile at you all the way to the bank. --- * kill-files, watch-lists, favorites, and more.. www.recgroups.com
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Date: 28 Nov 19:24:21
From: freakinfoldalready
Subject: Re: OT: Michael Vick
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hmm, what about everytime a celebrity gives the finger to the papperazi for heckling them? should they be labeled thugs as well? Like i said, it wasn't right BUT it doesnt make him a thug. Ray Lewis anyone? On Nov 28 2006 1:37 PM, Will_gamble wrote: > On Nov 28 2006 10:19 AM, freakinfoldalready wrote: > > > and those true colors are? > > > > Have you ever givensomeone the finger? did that show your true colors? > > if so what are they > > > > > > A so called professional athlete and public figure makings millions a year > should be held to a higher standard. Not to mention that he is at work. > Try giving the finger to your customers at work in front of your boss when > they complain about your work. What will happen to you? > > Pay me 5 million a year and boo me and I will smile at you all the way to > the bank. _______________________________________________________________ Watch Lists, Block Lists, Favorites - http://www.recpoker.com
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 16:20:18
From: DaVoice
Subject: Re: OT: Michael Vick
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"freakinfoldalready" <43085980@recpoker.com > wrote in message news:1164741861$912419@recpoker.com... > > > hmm, what about everytime a celebrity gives the finger to the papperazi > for > heckling them? should they be labeled thugs as well? Like i said, it > wasn't > right BUT it doesnt make him a thug. Apples and Oranges. The celebrities aren't "at work" around the people who pay to watch them perform when it happens. They're flipping off blood sucking assholes who make their living leeching off of the celebrites fame. Next. Rick "DaVoice" Charles
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 12:30:44
From: Will_gamble
Subject: Re: OT: Michael Vick
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On Nov 28 2006 1:24 PM, freakinfoldalready wrote: > hmm, what about everytime a celebrity gives the finger to the papperazi for > heckling them? should they be labeled thugs as well? Like i said, it wasn't > right BUT it doesnt make him a thug. > "hmm" You should have stopped there. You would have to be more specific concerning the celebrity you cite. Where and in what setting? The Oscars or outside a club? I never labled him a thug. I said he was highly unprofessional and suggested he should be fired just like anyone else. ______________________________________________________________________ RecGroups : the community-oriented newsreader : www.recgroups.com
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Date: 28 Nov 20:42:08
From: freakinfoldalready
Subject: Re: OT: Michael Vick
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and in circles we go, i didnt say you called him a thug, the OP did. Flipping someone off isnt thuggish, immature surely but he isnt gonna be making a jump to gang banger any time soon On Nov 28 2006 3:30 PM, Will_gamble wrote: > On Nov 28 2006 1:24 PM, freakinfoldalready wrote: > > > hmm, what about everytime a celebrity gives the finger to the papperazi for > > heckling them? should they be labeled thugs as well? Like i said, it wasn't > > right BUT it doesnt make him a thug. > > > > "hmm" > > You should have stopped there. > > You would have to be more specific concerning the celebrity you cite. > Where and in what setting? The Oscars or outside a club? > > I never labled him a thug. > > I said he was highly unprofessional and suggested he should be fired just > like anyone else. _______________________________________________________________ New Feature: Mark All As Read! - http://www.recpoker.com
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 12:54:54
From: Will_gamble
Subject: Re: OT: Michael Vick
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On Nov 28 2006 2:42 PM, freakinfoldalready wrote: > and in circles we go, i didnt say you called him a thug, the OP did. Flipping > someone off isnt thuggish, immature surely but he isnt gonna be making a jump to > gang banger any time soon > > You are the one that is dizzy from going in circles. I am the OP and I never called him a thug. Get your facts straight. I guess you think that it is right for ESPN to cover up or hush Michael Irvin saying that Tony Romo must have black ancestors to be so talented. Pretty much the same thing that Jimmy the Greek got fired for saying. What if someone said that Kiki Barber must have white ancestors because he is smart. That would get them fired pretty quickly, especially if they were white. -------- * kill-files, watch-lists, favorites, and more.. www.recgroups.com
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Date: 28 Nov 21:15:33
From: freakinfoldalready
Subject: Re: OT: Michael Vick
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i apologize, it was the first responder that i was refering to. I didnt hear what Irvin said about Romo but it really wouldnt surprise me, he is about a sharp as a bowling bowl and constantly sticks his foot in his mouth. On Nov 28 2006 3:54 PM, Will_gamble wrote: > On Nov 28 2006 2:42 PM, freakinfoldalready wrote: > > > and in circles we go, i didnt say you called him a thug, the OP did. > Flipping > > someone off isnt thuggish, immature surely but he isnt gonna be making a > jump to > > gang banger any time soon > > > > > > You are the one that is dizzy from going in circles. I am the OP and I > never called him a thug. Get your facts straight. > > I guess you think that it is right for ESPN to cover up or hush Michael > Irvin saying that Tony Romo must have black ancestors to be so talented. > Pretty much the same thing that Jimmy the Greek got fired for saying. > > What if someone said that Kiki Barber must have white ancestors because he > is smart. That would get them fired pretty quickly, especially if they > were white. _______________________________________________________________ The Largest Online Poker Community - http://www.recpoker.com
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 16:18:14
From: DaVoice
Subject: Re: OT: Michael Vick
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"freakinfoldalready" <43085980@recpoker.com > wrote in message news:1164730796$912321@recpoker.com... > > and those true colors are? > > Have you ever givensomeone the finger? did that show your true colors? > if so what are they I've given MANY people the finger, but not any of my fans (and yes I had a large fan base in radio). I would never do it in that type of situation, no matter how frustrated I was. That was a low class, dumbass move, and he'll pay the NFL AND he'll lose money in merchandising. He fucked himself. And the worst part was it was after a game that he ran for 166 yards. Rick "DaVoice" Charles
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 15:50:34
From: Al Gore's Dead Cat
Subject: Re: Michael Vick
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"Will_gamble" <will_gamble2@yahoo.com > wrote in message > I saw that half hearted, GED attempt at an apology. Pathetic. Why won't > people like the ESPN MNF crew talk about the gesture and false apology? > Instead, they just sweep it under the rug. Just when I thought some > progress was being made in bringing 'professional' back to professional > sports. > > I know it is probably not apples to apples, but Michael Richards is still > making news and Michael Vick is Otay. Vick is an ESPN darling. I don't like Dan Sileo that much, but he made a good point on his show this morning when he said Vick is great for any team that wants to sell popcorn, hot dogs, jerseys, and even tickets, but that he is not a quarterback that will ever take you to a Super Bowl. Style over substance. We already know Vick's younger brother is a thug. Older brother Michael proved where Marcus learned it from.
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 11:02:20
From: PMJackson21
Subject: Re: Michael Vick
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freakinfoldalready wrote: > > I think you will be hard pressed to find anything that supports your claim of MV > being a thug > Ron Mexico??? Maybe not proof of being a thug, but infecting someone with herpes knowingly pretty much makes you a bad human being. Patrick
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 12:19:13
From: PMJackson21
Subject: Re: Michael Vick
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il Lupo wrote: > Heh, that's right, forgot about that. Ron Mexico. That cracks me up (except > for the whole infecting another human being thing...douche). > > Enough about Ronnie...you catch the game Sunday? > > > > jbaci85 at yahoo dot com OMG yes. Nolan is a moron for not going for it on that 4th and less then a yard inside the Rams 10. They rammed the ball down the throat of the Rams D that whole drive (Larry Allen and Jonas Jennings head butting each other, all fired up lol), then you take your foot off their throat and kick the FG. At home I can see that being a better decision, since their D plays better at home and they would have the crowd on their side. At STL however, with a depleted secondary and facing a Rams team that, although not 'The Greatest Show on Turf' anymore, still knows how to move the ball down the field in a hurry, I thought it was bad coaching. That and the 'prevent-like' defense they employed on the drive.....asdfkl;fjasklfjaskl;jdfkl;ajs;kldfjaskl;qweio;. Patrick
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 13:02:23
From: PMJackson21
Subject: Re: Michael Vick
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il Lupo wrote: > > Getting Walt's strip and TD taken away didn't help either. I was pretty pissed > after the game...Good sign. It means they're getting better. > Agreed. Tilted me before Lee even had a chance to on Sunday. I don't see how they had enough visual evidence to overturn the Harris fumble recoverey/TD. And you are right, the 3rd and long play at the beginning of the drive was key. At least make them convert a 4th and 7, not a 4th and inches. 7-9 looks about right. Lose their 3 road games, and beat Arz and...Miami I want to say...at home. Patrick
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 13:20:51
From: PMJackson21
Subject: Re: Michael Vick
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il Lupo wrote: > That's exactly what I would like to know. To overrule a call on the field it > has to be definitive...that (and the Battle TD at the end of the half vs > Seattle) were conclusive? Really? Yeah exactly. Neither seemed to be definitive, the STL one just ended up hurting us. > Green Bay and Arz are their home games. Have you made it to any games? That's right, GB. I knew it was a winnable game. No, I had the GB tickets originally, then someone wanted to switch for the Minnesota game, so I did. I then gave the Vikings tickets away lol. > 7-9 sounds right...good draft, a couple good free agent signings and they should > be in the playoffs? Playoffs? Yeah...def need WR help...and secondary. > jbaci85 at yahoo dot com > Patrick
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Date: 28 Nov 21:13:17
From: il Lupo
Subject: Re: Michael Vick
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On Nov 28 2006 4:02 PM, PMJackson21 wrote: > Agreed. Tilted me before Lee even had a chance to on Sunday. > > I don't see how they had enough visual evidence to overturn the Harris > fumble recoverey/TD. And you are right, the 3rd and long play at the > beginning of the drive was key. At least make them convert a 4th and > 7, not a 4th and inches. > > 7-9 looks about right. Lose their 3 road games, and beat Arz > and...Miami I want to say...at home. > > Patrick That's exactly what I would like to know. To overrule a call on the field it has to be definitive...that (and the Battle TD at the end of the half vs Seattle) were conclusive? Really? Green Bay and Arz are their home games. Have you made it to any games? 7-9 sounds right...good draft, a couple good free agent signings and they should be in the playoffs? Playoffs? jbaci85 at yahoo dot com _______________________________________________________________ Block Lists, Favorites, and more - http://www.recpoker.com
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Date: 28 Nov 20:41:37
From: il Lupo
Subject: Re: Michael Vick
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A buddy was over to watch the game and he says..."you have to go for it". I told him Nolan will kick the field goal, that's his mentality. Rest is history. For all the good things he's doing, the one thing Nolan has to do is trust him team in certain situations. All Smith has to do is take the snap, fall down and it's a first down. They have three cracks from the 4 yard line, and an opportunity to take more time off the clock. Last week...same thing. You're dominating the game. 17-0, 20-0...same thing. 24-0 and Seattle stays in the locker room for the second half. When you show confidence in your team to make those plays you lift them up, while at the same time deflating the other side...hopefully we see him trust the team more. They didn't really run a prevent. First down sack, then that dump pass that Ulbrich missed the tackle on really hurt. They could have brought more pressure since their standard 4-man rush isn't very effective, but sometimes the other team makes plays. Getting Walt's strip and TD taken away didn't help either. I was pretty pissed after the game...Good sign. It means they're getting better. On Nov 28 2006 3:19 PM, PMJackson21 wrote: > il Lupo wrote: > > > Heh, that's right, forgot about that. Ron Mexico. That cracks me up > > (except > > for the whole infecting another human being thing...douche). > > > > Enough about Ronnie...you catch the game Sunday? > > > > > > > > jbaci85 at yahoo dot com > > OMG yes. Nolan is a moron for not going for it on that 4th and less > then a yard inside the Rams 10. They rammed the ball down the throat > of the Rams D that whole drive (Larry Allen and Jonas Jennings head > butting each other, all fired up lol), then you take your foot off > their throat and kick the FG. > > At home I can see that being a better decision, since their D plays > better at home and they would have the crowd on their side. At STL > however, with a depleted secondary and facing a Rams team that, > although not 'The Greatest Show on Turf' anymore, still knows how to > move the ball down the field in a hurry, I thought it was bad coaching. > That and the 'prevent-like' defense they employed on the > drive.....asdfkl;fjasklfjaskl;jdfkl;ajs;kldfjaskl;qweio;. > > Patrick jbaci85 at yahoo dot com _______________________________________________________________ Your Online Poker Community - http://www.recpoker.com
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Date: 28 Nov 19:55:02
From: il Lupo
Subject: Re: Michael Vick
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On Nov 28 2006 2:02 PM, PMJackson21 wrote: > Ron Mexico??? Maybe not proof of being a thug, but infecting someone > with herpes knowingly pretty much makes you a bad human being. > > Patrick Heh, that's right, forgot about that. Ron Mexico. That cracks me up (except for the whole infecting another human being thing...douche). Enough about Ronnie...you catch the game Sunday? jbaci85 at yahoo dot com _______________________________________________________________ Watch Lists, Block Lists, Favorites - http://www.recpoker.com
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 11:35:43
From: PMJackson21
Subject: Re: Michael Vick
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freakinfoldalready wrote: > now did she really get herpes or is it speculation? > > also, since Herpes is about as common place as HPV is in women, make sure you > have asked each girl you sleep with if they have it. > > Never have I heard it a law that you need to disclose anything of the sort > before sleeping with someone, pretty much the risk you take for being a sinner > and havin premarital sex :) > He settled the lawsuit, which although not a sure sign of guilt, obviously makes you think that the allegations were true. He had herpes and had been treated for it (under aliases like 'Ron Mexico') prior to his relationship with the accuser, so I would say that her case had a great deal of merit to it. I don't know if you are required by law to tell someone you have a STD before having sex with them, but it would obviously be the _right_ thing to do. I seem to recall people being charged with crimes for knowingly infecting people with HIV, but I'm not sure if the laws those people were prosecuted under include other STDs. Anyway, I didn't say he was a criminal (although I think it should be made criminal), I said he was a bad human being. Patrick
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 12:32:01
From: PMJackson21
Subject: Re: Michael Vick
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freakinfoldalready wrote: > that you did say BUT the question was "....find something to support your claim > that he is THUG.." ANd no you dont haev to tell people you have an STD before > sex, not even HIV- they were sued in civil courts i believe, not criminal court. > > Sorry, but you are wrong there. Here's one example: http://www.spokesmanreview.com/tools/story_pf.asp?ID=44574 Patrick
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Date: 28 Nov 20:40:46
From: freakinfoldalready
Subject: Re: Michael Vick
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ok, i stand corrected but DELIBERATLEY infecting people with HIV is a little different than HPV or Herpes or the Clap On Nov 28 2006 3:32 PM, PMJackson21 wrote: > freakinfoldalready wrote: > > that you did say BUT the question was "....find something to support your > > claim > > that he is THUG.." ANd no you dont haev to tell people you have an STD > > before > > sex, not even HIV- they were sued in civil courts i believe, not criminal > > court. > > > > > > Sorry, but you are wrong there. Here's one example: > > http://www.spokesmanreview.com/tools/story_pf.asp?ID=44574 > > Patrick _______________________________________________________________ * New Release: RecPoker.com v2.2 - http://www.recpoker.com
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Date: 28 Nov 20:23:00
From: freakinfoldalready
Subject: Re: Michael Vick
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that you did say BUT the question was "....find something to support your claim that he is THUG.." ANd no you dont haev to tell people you have an STD before sex, not even HIV- they were sued in civil courts i believe, not criminal court. On Nov 28 2006 2:35 PM, PMJackson21 wrote: > freakinfoldalready wrote: > > now did she really get herpes or is it speculation? > > > > also, since Herpes is about as common place as HPV is in women, make sure > > you > > have asked each girl you sleep with if they have it. > > > > Never have I heard it a law that you need to disclose anything of the sort > > before sleeping with someone, pretty much the risk you take for being a > > sinner > > and havin premarital sex :) > > > > He settled the lawsuit, which although not a sure sign of guilt, > obviously makes you think that the allegations were true. He had > herpes and had been treated for it (under aliases like 'Ron Mexico') > prior to his relationship with the accuser, so I would say that her > case had a great deal of merit to it. > > I don't know if you are required by law to tell someone you have a STD > before having sex with them, but it would obviously be the _right_ > thing to do. I seem to recall people being charged with crimes for > knowingly infecting people with HIV, but I'm not sure if the laws those > people were prosecuted under include other STDs. > > Anyway, I didn't say he was a criminal (although I think it should be > made criminal), I said he was a bad human being. > > Patrick _______________________________________________________________ Watch Lists, Block Lists, Favorites - http://www.recpoker.com
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Date: 28 Nov 19:22:39
From: freakinfoldalready
Subject: Re: Michael Vick
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now did she really get herpes or is it speculation? also, since Herpes is about as common place as HPV is in women, make sure you have asked each girl you sleep with if they have it. Never have I heard it a law that you need to disclose anything of the sort before sleeping with someone, pretty much the risk you take for being a sinner and havin premarital sex :) On Nov 28 2006 2:02 PM, PMJackson21 wrote: > freakinfoldalready wrote: > > > > > I think you will be hard pressed to find anything that supports your claim > > of MV > > being a thug > > > > Ron Mexico??? Maybe not proof of being a thug, but infecting someone > with herpes knowingly pretty much makes you a bad human being. > > Patrick _______________________________________________________________ * New Release: RecPoker.com v2.2 - http://www.recpoker.com
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 08:09:12
From: atticus
Subject: Re: Michael Vick
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freakinfoldalready wrote: > Wow, now that is a jump isn't it. Have you never given someone the finger > before? Wasnt a smart thing to do at all but to make the leap from someone that > lost their cool to "thug" is a little much dont ya think? > > BtW, hard for Vick to take the team to the big show when their 3 first round > draft pick WRs drop balls that hit them in their hands. > > Sure Vick sells tickets, no doubt. Just like Reggie Bush- what has he done > lately? > > I think you will be hard pressed to find anything that supports your claim of MV > being a thug i dont care about the thug part... but i do know michael vick is the most over-rated player in pro sports, hands down. atticus
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Date: 28 Nov 16:19:02
From: freakinfoldalready
Subject: Re: Michael Vick
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really? how so? He is an incredible athlete, 24-9 at home in his career. A playmaker aswell. Hard time developing when the team doesnt develop around you. On Nov 28 2006 11:09 AM, atticus wrote: > freakinfoldalready wrote: > > Wow, now that is a jump isn't it. Have you never given someone the finger > > before? Wasnt a smart thing to do at all but to make the leap from someone > > that > > lost their cool to "thug" is a little much dont ya think? > > > > BtW, hard for Vick to take the team to the big show when their 3 first round > > draft pick WRs drop balls that hit them in their hands. > > > > Sure Vick sells tickets, no doubt. Just like Reggie Bush- what has he done > > lately? > > > > I think you will be hard pressed to find anything that supports your claim > > of MV > > being a thug > > i dont care about the thug part... but i do know michael vick is the > most over-rated player in pro sports, hands down. > > atticus _______________________________________________________________ Posted using RecPoker.com v2.2 - http://www.recpoker.com
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 12:09:20
From: atticus
Subject: Re: Michael Vick
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freakinfoldalready wrote: > really? how so? > > He is an incredible athlete, 24-9 at home in his career. A playmaker aswell. > Hard time developing when the team doesnt develop around you. because he cant pass, he cant read a defense and he is a very marginal quarterback if you want to win playoff games. he will never win anything of significance as long as he plays QB. furthermore, although it is hypothetical, he would also be marginal at QB with any team because he just doesnt have NFL QB skills. combine that with all the idiots drooling over him when he came out of the NCAA Penitentiary, aka Va Tech, that makes him over-rated. having a bunch of losers like Leslie Lelie at receiver just makes him look slightly more inept than he really is. atticus
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 12:25:57
From: PMJackson21
Subject: Re: Michael Vick
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freakinfoldalready wrote: > VT as the NCAA penitentiary? Please explain that one, just exactly who went to > jail from there? > > perhaps you mean MIA or Nebraska? > Lawrence Phillips doesn't put us on the level of Miami sir. :-) Nebraska is known for it's class as a football program, not for recuiting violations and getting in brawls at mid-field. Patrick
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Date: 28 Nov 20:39:30
From: freakinfoldalready
Subject: Re: Michael Vick
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sure but I can't find anyone from VT that killed anyone or went to jail..Miami will always have Ray Lewis On Nov 28 2006 3:25 PM, PMJackson21 wrote: > freakinfoldalready wrote: > > VT as the NCAA penitentiary? Please explain that one, just exactly who went > > to > > jail from there? > > > > perhaps you mean MIA or Nebraska? > > > > Lawrence Phillips doesn't put us on the level of Miami sir. :-) > Nebraska is known for it's class as a football program, not for > recuiting violations and getting in brawls at mid-field. > > Patrick _______________________________________________________________ * New Release: RecPoker.com v2.2 - http://www.recpoker.com
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Date: 28 Nov 20:21:22
From: freakinfoldalready
Subject: Re: Michael Vick
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VT as the NCAA penitentiary? Please explain that one, just exactly who went to jail from there? perhaps you mean MIA or Nebraska? On Nov 28 2006 3:09 PM, atticus wrote: > freakinfoldalready wrote: > > really? how so? > > > > He is an incredible athlete, 24-9 at home in his career. A playmaker > > aswell. > > Hard time developing when the team doesnt develop around you. > > because he cant pass, he cant read a defense and he is a very marginal > quarterback if you want to win playoff games. he will never win > anything of significance as long as he plays QB. > > furthermore, although it is hypothetical, he would also be marginal at > QB with any team because he just doesnt have NFL QB skills. > > combine that with all the idiots drooling over him when he came out of > the NCAA Penitentiary, aka Va Tech, that makes him over-rated. > > having a bunch of losers like Leslie Lelie at receiver just makes him > look slightly more inept than he really is. > > atticus _______________________________________________________________ Block Lists, Favorites, and more - http://www.recpoker.com
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Date: 28 Nov 16:05:56
From: freakinfoldalready
Subject: Re: Michael Vick
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Wow, now that is a jump isn't it. Have you never given someone the finger before? Wasnt a smart thing to do at all but to make the leap from someone that lost their cool to "thug" is a little much dont ya think? BtW, hard for Vick to take the team to the big show when their 3 first round draft pick WRs drop balls that hit them in their hands. Sure Vick sells tickets, no doubt. Just like Reggie Bush- what has he done lately? I think you will be hard pressed to find anything that supports your claim of MV being a thug On Nov 28 2006 10:50 AM, Al Gore's Dead Cat wrote: > "Will_gamble" wrote in message > > I saw that half hearted, GED attempt at an apology. Pathetic. Why won't > > people like the ESPN MNF crew talk about the gesture and false apology? > > Instead, they just sweep it under the rug. Just when I thought some > > progress was being made in bringing 'professional' back to professional > > sports. > > > > I know it is probably not apples to apples, but Michael Richards is still > > making news and Michael Vick is Otay. > > Vick is an ESPN darling. I don't like Dan Sileo that much, but he made a > good point on his show this morning when he said Vick is great for any team > that wants to sell popcorn, hot dogs, jerseys, and even tickets, but that he > is not a quarterback that will ever take you to a Super Bowl. Style over > substance. > > We already know Vick's younger brother is a thug. Older brother Michael > proved where Marcus learned it from. _______________________________________________________________ Block Lists, Favorites, and more - http://www.recpoker.com
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 08:25:00
From: Will_gamble
Subject: Re: Michael Vick
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On Nov 28 2006 10:05 AM, freakinfoldalready wrote: > Wow, now that is a jump isn't it. Have you never given someone the finger > before? You can't be that thick. Have you ever made 10 million before? -------- * kill-files, watch-lists, favorites, and more.. www.recgroups.com
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Date: 28 Nov 16:48:22
From: freakinfoldalready
Subject: Re: Michael Vick
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even more illogical! What the hell does that haev to do with anything? To say someone is a thug bc they flipped someone off is ridiculous! Why not label anyone with an A/B charge as a serial killer too!! Get a grip, he gave someone the finger- bad thing PR wise but hardly initiates him into the Crips On Nov 28 2006 11:25 AM, Will_gamble wrote: > On Nov 28 2006 10:05 AM, freakinfoldalready wrote: > > > Wow, now that is a jump isn't it. Have you never given someone the finger > > before? > > You can't be that thick. Have you ever made 10 million before? _______________________________________________________________ Your Online Poker Community - http://www.recpoker.com
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 19:44:42
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: Michael Vick
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Maybe Jesse Jackson could fly in and help him with his apology. Assuming he's finished with Krammer. Irish Mike "freakinfoldalready" <43085980@recpoker.com > wrote in message news:1164732502$912343@recpoker.com... > > even more illogical! What the hell does that haev to do with anything? > > To say someone is a thug bc they flipped someone off is ridiculous! Why > not > label anyone with an A/B charge as a serial killer too!! > > Get a grip, he gave someone the finger- bad thing PR wise but hardly > initiates > him into the Crips > > On Nov 28 2006 11:25 AM, Will_gamble wrote: > >> On Nov 28 2006 10:05 AM, freakinfoldalready wrote: >> >> > Wow, now that is a jump isn't it. Have you never given someone the >> > finger >> > before? >> >> You can't be that thick. Have you ever made 10 million before? > > > > _______________________________________________________________ > Your Online Poker Community - http://www.recpoker.com
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 16:10:13
From: DaVoice
Subject: Re: Michael Vick
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"freakinfoldalready" <43085980@recpoker.com > wrote in message news:1164729956$912306@recpoker.com... > > Wow, now that is a jump isn't it. Have you never given someone the finger > before? Wasnt a smart thing to do at all but to make the leap from someone > that > lost their cool to "thug" is a little much dont ya think? > > BtW, hard for Vick to take the team to the big show when their 3 first > round > draft pick WRs drop balls that hit them in their hands. > > Sure Vick sells tickets, no doubt. Just like Reggie Bush- what has he done > lately? It shouldn't be "hard" for Michael Vick to NOT flip off his fans. The fans pay his salary, buy his merchandise, etc. Mike Vick is a seasoned Veteran, you can't compare him to a rookie (Reggie Bush), who as far as I know hasn't flipped any fans off, especially in front of the cameras. ESPN is so insistent on having a black QB be rated the best in the league that they fired Rush Limbaugh, or have we forgotten that? Rush wasn't being racist in the least, he was stating a FACT. ESPN WANTS a Black QB to be the #1 in the league, they also have an agenda for black ownership in the league. Don't you people listen to their commentary? Next, let me say that I'm certainly no racist, and I'm glad to see that there are now more Black head coaches (that deserve to be there) in the league. There are also more and more black asst. coaches and coordinators. Considering that blacks are not the minority in the NFL that is a great thing for the black players, however the leauge has stressed SOCIAL ENGINEERING to get where they have so far. I think it should be the best man for the job, whether they're black, white, yellow, purple or fucking polka-dotted. I'm all for black ownership in the NFL too, the "old boy network" is a hard club to break into. These teams are mostly family owned legacy driven companies where there are no blacks in the family tree. Sad , but true. Rick "DaVoice" Charles
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Date: 28 Nov 21:02:02
From: il Lupo
Subject: Re: OT: Michael Vick
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Vick, as a player, has never had to be accountable to anyone, especially his coaches. If you looked at the organizational structure it would probably go Owner-Vick-Coach. He's there to sell tickets, etc and be a PR machine. The goal was to for him to be the face of both the team and NFL. He loves the notoriety and of course the money that goes along with that, but not the responsibility. Unfortunately, what you have is an immature, egotistical super-athlete who is below average at the most prestigious, hyped and analyzed position in team sports. His coaches can't rein him in because they don't have the power. He has plenty of talent around him, but he falls short in the two most important areas of QB play--passing and game management. Vick was assigned a leadership position but is clearly not a leader. This most recent incident and the Ron Mexico exploits clearly show that. On Nov 28 2006 10:12 AM, Will_gamble wrote: > What a moron. > > Jim Mora was right... a coach killer. > > Employees get fired for blogs and this moron gives everybody the double > barrel 'FU' on national television and will probably be fined the > equivalent of $20 to the average fan. > > I saw that half hearted, GED attempt at an apology. Pathetic. Why won't > people like the ESPN MNF crew talk about the gesture and false apology? > Instead, they just sweep it under the rug. Just when I thought some > progress was being made in bringing 'professional' back to professional > sports. > > I know it is probably not apples to apples, but Michael Richards is still > making news and Michael Vick is Otay. > > Pitiful jbaci85 at yahoo dot com _______________________________________________________________ * New Release: RecPoker.com v2.2 - http://www.recpoker.com
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Date: 28 Nov 21:17:38
From: freakinfoldalready
Subject: Re: OT: Michael Vick
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just curious in regards to the Ron Mexico thing, if you had the gift that kept on giving would you tell everyone you were about to sleep with? what if you were a celebrity, would you still? On Nov 28 2006 4:02 PM, il Lupo wrote: > Vick, as a player, has never had to be accountable to anyone, especially his > coaches. If you looked at the organizational structure it would probably go > Owner-Vick-Coach. > > He's there to sell tickets, etc and be a PR machine. The goal was to for him > to > be the face of both the team and NFL. He loves the notoriety and of course > the > money that goes along with that, but not the responsibility. Unfortunately, > what you have is an immature, egotistical super-athlete who is below average > at > the most prestigious, hyped and analyzed position in team sports. His coaches > can't rein him in because they don't have the power. He has plenty of talent > around him, but he falls short in the two most important areas of QB > play--passing and game management. > > Vick was assigned a leadership position but is clearly not a leader. This > most > recent incident and the Ron Mexico exploits clearly show that. > > On Nov 28 2006 10:12 AM, Will_gamble wrote: > > > What a moron. > > > > Jim Mora was right... a coach killer. > > > > Employees get fired for blogs and this moron gives everybody the double > > barrel 'FU' on national television and will probably be fined the > > equivalent of $20 to the average fan. > > > > I saw that half hearted, GED attempt at an apology. Pathetic. Why won't > > people like the ESPN MNF crew talk about the gesture and false apology? > > Instead, they just sweep it under the rug. Just when I thought some > > progress was being made in bringing 'professional' back to professional > > sports. > > > > I know it is probably not apples to apples, but Michael Richards is still > > making news and Michael Vick is Otay. > > > > Pitiful > jbaci85 at yahoo dot com > > > _______________________________________________________________ Your Online Poker Community - http://www.recpoker.com
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Date: 28 Nov 21:31:49
From: il Lupo
Subject: Re: OT: Michael Vick
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Yeah, mostly because I'm not a douche. On Nov 28 2006 4:17 PM, freakinfoldalready wrote: > > just curious in regards to the Ron Mexico thing, if you had the gift that kept > on giving would you tell everyone you were about to sleep with? > > what if you were a celebrity, would you still? > > > On Nov 28 2006 4:02 PM, il Lupo wrote: > > > Vick, as a player, has never had to be accountable to anyone, especially his > > coaches. If you looked at the organizational structure it would probably go > > Owner-Vick-Coach. > > > > He's there to sell tickets, etc and be a PR machine. The goal was to for > > him > > to > > be the face of both the team and NFL. He loves the notoriety and of course > > the > > money that goes along with that, but not the responsibility. Unfortunately, > > what you have is an immature, egotistical super-athlete who is below average > > at > > the most prestigious, hyped and analyzed position in team sports. His > > coaches > > can't rein him in because they don't have the power. He has plenty of > > talent > > around him, but he falls short in the two most important areas of QB > > play--passing and game management. > > > > Vick was assigned a leadership position but is clearly not a leader. This > > most > > recent incident and the Ron Mexico exploits clearly show that. > > > > On Nov 28 2006 10:12 AM, Will_gamble wrote: > > > > > What a moron. > > > > > > Jim Mora was right... a coach killer. > > > > > > Employees get fired for blogs and this moron gives everybody the double > > > barrel 'FU' on national television and will probably be fined the > > > equivalent of $20 to the average fan. > > > > > > I saw that half hearted, GED attempt at an apology. Pathetic. Why won't > > > people like the ESPN MNF crew talk about the gesture and false apology? > > > Instead, they just sweep it under the rug. Just when I thought some > > > progress was being made in bringing 'professional' back to professional > > > sports. > > > > > > I know it is probably not apples to apples, but Michael Richards is still > > > making news and Michael Vick is Otay. > > > > > > Pitiful > > jbaci85 at yahoo dot com > > > > > > > > jbaci85 at yahoo dot com _______________________________________________________________ * New Release: RecPoker.com v2.2 - http://www.recpoker.com
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Date: 28 Nov 21:40:36
From: freakinfoldalready
Subject: Re: OT: Michael Vick
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well i hope that is true, somehow i doubt if you had HPV, which if you are a sexually active person between the ages of 20-50, you very well might have and not know it. since several STDs are asymptomatic you should get yourself checked bc you never know. I get tested frequently, especially when i am single. On Nov 28 2006 4:31 PM, il Lupo wrote: > Yeah, mostly because I'm not a douche. > > On Nov 28 2006 4:17 PM, freakinfoldalready wrote: > > > > > just curious in regards to the Ron Mexico thing, if you had the gift that > > kept > > on giving would you tell everyone you were about to sleep with? > > > > what if you were a celebrity, would you still? > > > > > > On Nov 28 2006 4:02 PM, il Lupo wrote: > > > > > Vick, as a player, has never had to be accountable to anyone, especially > > > his > > > coaches. If you looked at the organizational structure it would probably > > > go > > > Owner-Vick-Coach. > > > > > > He's there to sell tickets, etc and be a PR machine. The goal was to for > > > him > > > to > > > be the face of both the team and NFL. He loves the notoriety and of > > > course > > > the > > > money that goes along with that, but not the responsibility. > > > Unfortunately, > > > what you have is an immature, egotistical super-athlete who is below > > > average > > > at > > > the most prestigious, hyped and analyzed position in team sports. His > > > coaches > > > can't rein him in because they don't have the power. He has plenty of > > > talent > > > around him, but he falls short in the two most important areas of QB > > > play--passing and game management. > > > > > > Vick was assigned a leadership position but is clearly not a leader. This > > > most > > > recent incident and the Ron Mexico exploits clearly show that. > > > > > > On Nov 28 2006 10:12 AM, Will_gamble wrote: > > > > > > > What a moron. > > > > > > > > Jim Mora was right... a coach killer. > > > > > > > > Employees get fired for blogs and this moron gives everybody the double > > > > barrel 'FU' on national television and will probably be fined the > > > > equivalent of $20 to the average fan. > > > > > > > > I saw that half hearted, GED attempt at an apology. Pathetic. Why won't > > > > people like the ESPN MNF crew talk about the gesture and false apology? > > > > Instead, they just sweep it under the rug. Just when I thought some > > > > progress was being made in bringing 'professional' back to professional > > > > sports. > > > > > > > > I know it is probably not apples to apples, but Michael Richards is > > > > still > > > > making news and Michael Vick is Otay. > > > > > > > > Pitiful > > > jbaci85 at yahoo dot com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jbaci85 at yahoo dot com > > > _______________________________________________________________ * New Release: RecPoker.com v2.2 - http://www.recpoker.com
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 13:27:48
From: Will_gamble
Subject: Re: OT: Michael Vick
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On Nov 28 2006 3:17 PM, freakinfoldalready wrote: > just curious in regards to the Ron Mexico thing, if you had the gift that kept > on giving would you tell everyone you were about to sleep with? > > what if you were a celebrity, would you still? > > Especially if I were a celebrity AND they would be signing something. ----- looking for a better newsgroup-reader? - www.recgroups.com
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