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Date: 06 Dec 2006 08:07:00
From: Kinnipak
Subject: OT: In the workplace

I was reading a post by CHarrison100 in another thread and it got me
wondering:

What is the STUPIDEST rule you have ever encountered in a workplace
enviornment?

(Morphy should love this one....)

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Date: 06 Dec 18:39:36
From: Gary Carson
Subject: Re: OT: In the workplace

On Dec 6 2006 10:07 AM, Kinnipak wrote:

> I was reading a post by CHarrison100 in another thread and it got me
> wondering:
>
> What is the STUPIDEST rule you have ever encountered in a workplace
> enviornment?

Oh that's easy.

The US Navy.

Our ship was anchored in Da Nang harbor, providing gunfire support for a marine
unit making a landing on the otherside of the hill North of town. They were
supposed to be taking out some bad guy mortar position in the hill that were
being used to attack various spots at the Naval facility in Da Nang.

There had recently been some frieghters sunk in the harbor by swimmers so we
were assigned a swift boat to circle our anchored ship, looking for swimmers.

The normal deck watch when anchored consisted of an officer of the deck, a
bosuns mate of the watch and a messenger. Sometimes the bosuns mate was armed
with a .45, sometimes not. In Danang harbor he was armed and we an extra man on
the watch, a sentry armed with an M1 who was a walking perimeter lookout for
boarders. We had two .50c machine guns mounted two decks above, but they
weren't manned and the ammunition for them was locked up and to access it the
messenger would have to awaken the duty Gunner's Mate who had the key for the
bullet locker.

The clips for the .45 and the M1 were kept in an unlocked drawer at the
quarterdeck.

So if the sentry ran across boarders he was supposed to walk to the quarterdeck,
notifiy the OOD, sign out a clip, and return to fire on the boarders. You know
that would be the boarders who by now are below decks blowing up our boilers or
something.

That was our nation at war. I've not yet run across anything quite that stupid
in corporate America.

Gary Carson
http://www.garycarson.com

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Date: 06 Dec 18:53:40
From: CHarrison100
Subject: Re: OT: In the workplace

On Dec 6 2006 1:39 PM, Gary Carson wrote:

>
>
>
> On Dec 6 2006 10:07 AM, Kinnipak wrote:
>
> > I was reading a post by CHarrison100 in another thread and it got me
> > wondering:
> >
> > What is the STUPIDEST rule you have ever encountered in a workplace
> > environment?
>
> Oh that's easy.
>
> The US Navy.
>
> Our ship was anchored in Da Nang harbor, providing gunfire support for a
> marine
> unit making a landing on the otherside of the hill North of town. They were
> supposed to be taking out some bad guy mortar position in the hill that were
> being used to attack various spots at the Naval facility in Da Nang.
>
> There had recently been some frieghters sunk in the harbor by swimmers so we
> were assigned a swift boat to circle our anchored ship, looking for swimmers.
>
> The normal deck watch when anchored consisted of an officer of the deck, a
> bosuns mate of the watch and a messenger. Sometimes the bosuns mate was armed
> with a .45, sometimes not. In Danang harbor he was armed and we an extra man
> on
> the watch, a sentry armed with an M1 who was a walking perimeter lookout for
> boarders. We had two .50c machine guns mounted two decks above, but they
> weren't manned and the ammunition for them was locked up and to access it the
> messenger would have to awaken the duty Gunner's Mate who had the key for the
> bullet locker.
>
> The clips for the .45 and the M1 were kept in an unlocked drawer at the
> quarterdeck.
>
> So if the sentry ran across boarders he was supposed to walk to the
> quarterdeck,
> notifiy the OOD, sign out a clip, and return to fire on the boarders. You
> know
> that would be the boarders who by now are below decks blowing up our boilers
> or
> something.
>
> That was our nation at war. I've not yet run across anything quite that
> stupid
> in corporate America.
>
>
>
> Gary Carson
> http://www.garycarson.com
>
>

That's impressive.

A friend of mine was required to carry a cell phone as part of his job. The was
the second person that was to be called in the case of a disaster and start
getting the systems up and running at the recovery site. It broke. He notified
his boss and requested the paper work to get a replacement. It was signed by his
boss then went the the Manager then to the Director. After it was signed it went
to the Purchasing Manger. The purchasing Manager notified the technician in
charge of Cell phones. This person reads the order form and reaches across to
the cubical beside him and tells my friend that he missed some information. Cost
codes. Instead of giving it to the guy right beside him he puts it back into the
interoffice mail. It goes back through the chain and gets the 6 digit cost code.
Then it has to go back through the chain to get an initial on it and back to the
Cell Phone guy. It is approved and and order is placed. The phone arrive and
sits in reach of the guy for 4 days. Final it goes to the property manager to be
entered into the asset tracking system. then it goes to the Manager then to the
supervisor then to the guy. The whole thing took 3 months. Not bad for something
deemed Critical

A beer to the first person that can figure out the industry of this business.

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Date: 06 Dec 2006 11:09:11
From: Alan Gilbert aka brewmaster
Subject: Re: OT: In the workplace

On Dec 6 2006 10:53 AM, CHarrison100 wrote:

> On Dec 6 2006 1:39 PM, Gary Carson wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Dec 6 2006 10:07 AM, Kinnipak wrote:
> >
> > > I was reading a post by CHarrison100 in another thread and it got me
> > > wondering:
> > >
> > > What is the STUPIDEST rule you have ever encountered in a workplace
> > > environment?
> >
> > Oh that's easy.
> >
> > The US Navy.
> >
> > Our ship was anchored in Da Nang harbor, providing gunfire support for a
> > marine
> > unit making a landing on the otherside of the hill North of town. They
were
> > supposed to be taking out some bad guy mortar position in the hill that
were
> > being used to attack various spots at the Naval facility in Da Nang.
> >
> > There had recently been some frieghters sunk in the harbor by swimmers so
we
> > were assigned a swift boat to circle our anchored ship, looking for
swimmers.
> >
> > The normal deck watch when anchored consisted of an officer of the deck, a
> > bosuns mate of the watch and a messenger. Sometimes the bosuns mate was
armed
> > with a .45, sometimes not. In Danang harbor he was armed and we an extra
man
> > on
> > the watch, a sentry armed with an M1 who was a walking perimeter lookout
for
> > boarders. We had two .50c machine guns mounted two decks above, but they
> > weren't manned and the ammunition for them was locked up and to access it
the
> > messenger would have to awaken the duty Gunner's Mate who had the key for
the
> > bullet locker.
> >
> > The clips for the .45 and the M1 were kept in an unlocked drawer at the
> > quarterdeck.
> >
> > So if the sentry ran across boarders he was supposed to walk to the
> > quarterdeck,
> > notifiy the OOD, sign out a clip, and return to fire on the boarders. You
> > know
> > that would be the boarders who by now are below decks blowing up our
boilers
> > or
> > something.
> >
> > That was our nation at war. I've not yet run across anything quite that
> > stupid
> > in corporate America.
> >
> >
> >
> > Gary Carson
> > http://www.garycarson.com
> >
> >
>
> That's impressive.
>
> A friend of mine was required to carry a cell phone as part of his job. The
was
> the second person that was to be called in the case of a disaster and start
> getting the systems up and running at the recovery site. It broke. He
notified
> his boss and requested the paper work to get a replacement. It was signed by
his
> boss then went the the Manager then to the Director. After it was signed it
went
> to the Purchasing Manger. The purchasing Manager notified the technician in
> charge of Cell phones. This person reads the order form and reaches across to
> the cubical beside him and tells my friend that he missed some information.
Cost
> codes. Instead of giving it to the guy right beside him he puts it back into
the
> interoffice mail. It goes back through the chain and gets the 6 digit cost
code.
> Then it has to go back through the chain to get an initial on it and back to
the
> Cell Phone guy. It is approved and and order is placed. The phone arrive and
> sits in reach of the guy for 4 days. Final it goes to the property manager
to be
> entered into the asset tracking system. then it goes to the Manager then to
the
> supervisor then to the guy. The whole thing took 3 months. Not bad for
something
> deemed Critical
>
> A beer to the first person that can figure out the industry of this business.

Cellular provider?

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Date: 06 Dec 19:38:04
From: CHarrison100
Subject: Re: OT: In the workplace

On Dec 6 2006 2:09 PM, Alan Gilbert aka brewmaster wrote:

> On Dec 6 2006 10:53 AM, CHarrison100 wrote:
>
> > On Dec 6 2006 1:39 PM, Gary Carson wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Dec 6 2006 10:07 AM, Kinnipak wrote:
> > >
> > > > I was reading a post by CHarrison100 in another thread and it got me
> > > > wondering:
> > > >
> > > > What is the STUPIDEST rule you have ever encountered in a workplace
> > > > environment?
> > >
> > > Oh that's easy.
> > >
> > > The US Navy.
> > >
> > > Our ship was anchored in Da Nang harbor, providing gunfire support for a
> > > marine
> > > unit making a landing on the otherside of the hill North of town. They
> were
> > > supposed to be taking out some bad guy mortar position in the hill that
> were
> > > being used to attack various spots at the Naval facility in Da Nang.
> > >
> > > There had recently been some frieghters sunk in the harbor by swimmers so
> we
> > > were assigned a swift boat to circle our anchored ship, looking for
> swimmers.
> > >
> > > The normal deck watch when anchored consisted of an officer of the deck, a
> > > bosuns mate of the watch and a messenger. Sometimes the bosuns mate was
> armed
> > > with a .45, sometimes not. In Danang harbor he was armed and we an extra
> man
> > > on
> > > the watch, a sentry armed with an M1 who was a walking perimeter lookout
> for
> > > boarders. We had two .50c machine guns mounted two decks above, but they
> > > weren't manned and the ammunition for them was locked up and to access it
> the
> > > messenger would have to awaken the duty Gunner's Mate who had the key for
> the
> > > bullet locker.
> > >
> > > The clips for the .45 and the M1 were kept in an unlocked drawer at the
> > > quarterdeck.
> > >
> > > So if the sentry ran across boarders he was supposed to walk to the
> > > quarterdeck,
> > > notifiy the OOD, sign out a clip, and return to fire on the boarders. You
> > > know
> > > that would be the boarders who by now are below decks blowing up our
> boilers
> > > or
> > > something.
> > >
> > > That was our nation at war. I've not yet run across anything quite that
> > > stupid
> > > in corporate America.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Gary Carson
> > > http://www.garycarson.com/
> > >
> > >
> >
> > That's impressive.
> >
> > A friend of mine was required to carry a cell phone as part of his job. The
> was
> > the second person that was to be called in the case of a disaster and start
> > getting the systems up and running at the recovery site. It broke. He
> notified
> > his boss and requested the paper work to get a replacement. It was signed by
> his
> > boss then went the the Manager then to the Director. After it was signed it
> went
> > to the Purchasing Manger. The purchasing Manager notified the technician in
> > charge of Cell phones. This person reads the order form and reaches across
> > to
> > the cubical beside him and tells my friend that he missed some information.
> Cost
> > codes. Instead of giving it to the guy right beside him he puts it back into
> the
> > interoffice mail. It goes back through the chain and gets the 6 digit cost
> code.
> > Then it has to go back through the chain to get an initial on it and back to
> the
> > Cell Phone guy. It is approved and and order is placed. The phone arrive and
> > sits in reach of the guy for 4 days. Final it goes to the property manager
> to be
> > entered into the asset tracking system. then it goes to the Manager then to
> the
> > supervisor then to the guy. The whole thing took 3 months. Not bad for
> something
> > deemed Critical
> >
> > A beer to the first person that can figure out the industry of this
> > business.
>
> Cellular provider?

LOL No but that would have been better.
>
>
> ------
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>
> "Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if
> you look at it right" -RH

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Date: 06 Dec 2006 11:06:07
From: Kinnipak
Subject: Re: OT: In the workplace

On Dec 6 2006 12:53 PM, CHarrison100 wrote:

> On Dec 6 2006 1:39 PM, Gary Carson wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Dec 6 2006 10:07 AM, Kinnipak wrote:
> >
> > > I was reading a post by CHarrison100 in another thread and it got me
> > > wondering:
> > >
> > > What is the STUPIDEST rule you have ever encountered in a workplace
> > > environment?
> >
> > Oh that's easy.
> >
> > The US Navy.
> >
> > Our ship was anchored in Da Nang harbor, providing gunfire support for a
> > marine
> > unit making a landing on the otherside of the hill North of town. They
were
> > supposed to be taking out some bad guy mortar position in the hill that
were
> > being used to attack various spots at the Naval facility in Da Nang.
> >
> > There had recently been some frieghters sunk in the harbor by swimmers so
we
> > were assigned a swift boat to circle our anchored ship, looking for
swimmers.
> >
> > The normal deck watch when anchored consisted of an officer of the deck, a
> > bosuns mate of the watch and a messenger. Sometimes the bosuns mate was
armed
> > with a .45, sometimes not. In Danang harbor he was armed and we an extra
man
> > on
> > the watch, a sentry armed with an M1 who was a walking perimeter lookout
for
> > boarders. We had two .50c machine guns mounted two decks above, but they
> > weren't manned and the ammunition for them was locked up and to access it
the
> > messenger would have to awaken the duty Gunner's Mate who had the key for
the
> > bullet locker.
> >
> > The clips for the .45 and the M1 were kept in an unlocked drawer at the
> > quarterdeck.
> >
> > So if the sentry ran across boarders he was supposed to walk to the
> > quarterdeck,
> > notifiy the OOD, sign out a clip, and return to fire on the boarders. You
> > know
> > that would be the boarders who by now are below decks blowing up our
boilers
> > or
> > something.
> >
> > That was our nation at war. I've not yet run across anything quite that
> > stupid
> > in corporate America.
> >
> >
> >
> > Gary Carson
> > http://www.garycarson.com
> >
> >
>
> That's impressive.
>
> A friend of mine was required to carry a cell phone as part of his job. The
was
> the second person that was to be called in the case of a disaster and start
> getting the systems up and running at the recovery site. It broke. He
notified
> his boss and requested the paper work to get a replacement. It was signed by
his
> boss then went the the Manager then to the Director. After it was signed it
went
> to the Purchasing Manger. The purchasing Manager notified the technician in
> charge of Cell phones. This person reads the order form and reaches across to
> the cubical beside him and tells my friend that he missed some information.
Cost
> codes. Instead of giving it to the guy right beside him he puts it back into
the
> interoffice mail. It goes back through the chain and gets the 6 digit cost
code.
> Then it has to go back through the chain to get an initial on it and back to
the
> Cell Phone guy. It is approved and and order is placed. The phone arrive and
> sits in reach of the guy for 4 days. Final it goes to the property manager
to be
> entered into the asset tracking system. then it goes to the Manager then to
the
> supervisor then to the guy. The whole thing took 3 months. Not bad for
something
> deemed Critical
>
> A beer to the first person that can figure out the industry of this business.

Dairy Queen?

j/k

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Date: 06 Dec 19:36:46
From: CHarrison100
Subject: Re: OT: In the workplace

On Dec 6 2006 2:06 PM, Kinnipak wrote:

> On Dec 6 2006 12:53 PM, CHarrison100 wrote:
>
> > On Dec 6 2006 1:39 PM, Gary Carson wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Dec 6 2006 10:07 AM, Kinnipak wrote:
> > >
> > > > I was reading a post by CHarrison100 in another thread and it got me
> > > > wondering:
> > > >
> > > > What is the STUPIDEST rule you have ever encountered in a workplace
> > > > environment?
> > >
> > > Oh that's easy.
> > >
> > > The US Navy.
> > >
> > > Our ship was anchored in Da Nang harbor, providing gunfire support for a
> > > marine
> > > unit making a landing on the otherside of the hill North of town. They
> were
> > > supposed to be taking out some bad guy mortar position in the hill that
> were
> > > being used to attack various spots at the Naval facility in Da Nang.
> > >
> > > There had recently been some frieghters sunk in the harbor by swimmers so
> we
> > > were assigned a swift boat to circle our anchored ship, looking for
> swimmers.
> > >
> > > The normal deck watch when anchored consisted of an officer of the deck, a
> > > bosuns mate of the watch and a messenger. Sometimes the bosuns mate was
> armed
> > > with a .45, sometimes not. In Danang harbor he was armed and we an extra
> man
> > > on
> > > the watch, a sentry armed with an M1 who was a walking perimeter lookout
> for
> > > boarders. We had two .50c machine guns mounted two decks above, but they
> > > weren't manned and the ammunition for them was locked up and to access it
> the
> > > messenger would have to awaken the duty Gunner's Mate who had the key for
> the
> > > bullet locker.
> > >
> > > The clips for the .45 and the M1 were kept in an unlocked drawer at the
> > > quarterdeck.
> > >
> > > So if the sentry ran across boarders he was supposed to walk to the
> > > quarterdeck,
> > > notifiy the OOD, sign out a clip, and return to fire on the boarders. You
> > > know
> > > that would be the boarders who by now are below decks blowing up our
> boilers
> > > or
> > > something.
> > >
> > > That was our nation at war. I've not yet run across anything quite that
> > > stupid
> > > in corporate America.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Gary Carson
> > > http://www.garycarson.com/
> > >
> > >
> >
> > That's impressive.
> >
> > A friend of mine was required to carry a cell phone as part of his job. The
> was
> > the second person that was to be called in the case of a disaster and start
> > getting the systems up and running at the recovery site. It broke. He
> notified
> > his boss and requested the paper work to get a replacement. It was signed by
> his
> > boss then went the the Manager then to the Director. After it was signed it
> went
> > to the Purchasing Manger. The purchasing Manager notified the technician in
> > charge of Cell phones. This person reads the order form and reaches across
> > to
> > the cubical beside him and tells my friend that he missed some information.
> Cost
> > codes. Instead of giving it to the guy right beside him he puts it back into
> the
> > interoffice mail. It goes back through the chain and gets the 6 digit cost
> code.
> > Then it has to go back through the chain to get an initial on it and back to
> the
> > Cell Phone guy. It is approved and and order is placed. The phone arrive and
> > sits in reach of the guy for 4 days. Final it goes to the property manager
> to be
> > entered into the asset tracking system. then it goes to the Manager then to
> the
> > supervisor then to the guy. The whole thing took 3 months. Not bad for
> something
> > deemed Critical
> >
> > A beer to the first person that can figure out the industry of this
> > business.
>
> Dairy Queen?
>
> j/k

lol now I want a Blizzard Skor with Cookie Dough, My wife got me hooked.

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Date: 06 Dec 2006 13:02:26
From: ecr72
Subject: Re: OT: In the workplace

On Dec 6 2006 10:53 AM, CHarrison100 wrote:

> On Dec 6 2006 1:39 PM, Gary Carson wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Dec 6 2006 10:07 AM, Kinnipak wrote:
> >
> > > I was reading a post by CHarrison100 in another thread and it got me
> > > wondering:
> > >
> > > What is the STUPIDEST rule you have ever encountered in a workplace
> > > environment?
> >
> > Oh that's easy.
> >
> > The US Navy.
> >
> > Our ship was anchored in Da Nang harbor, providing gunfire support for a
> > marine
> > unit making a landing on the otherside of the hill North of town. They
were
> > supposed to be taking out some bad guy mortar position in the hill that
were
> > being used to attack various spots at the Naval facility in Da Nang.
> >
> > There had recently been some frieghters sunk in the harbor by swimmers so
we
> > were assigned a swift boat to circle our anchored ship, looking for
swimmers.
> >
> > The normal deck watch when anchored consisted of an officer of the deck, a
> > bosuns mate of the watch and a messenger. Sometimes the bosuns mate was
armed
> > with a .45, sometimes not. In Danang harbor he was armed and we an extra
man
> > on
> > the watch, a sentry armed with an M1 who was a walking perimeter lookout
for
> > boarders. We had two .50c machine guns mounted two decks above, but they
> > weren't manned and the ammunition for them was locked up and to access it
the
> > messenger would have to awaken the duty Gunner's Mate who had the key for
the
> > bullet locker.
> >
> > The clips for the .45 and the M1 were kept in an unlocked drawer at the
> > quarterdeck.
> >
> > So if the sentry ran across boarders he was supposed to walk to the
> > quarterdeck,
> > notifiy the OOD, sign out a clip, and return to fire on the boarders. You
> > know
> > that would be the boarders who by now are below decks blowing up our
boilers
> > or
> > something.
> >
> > That was our nation at war. I've not yet run across anything quite that
> > stupid
> > in corporate America.
> >
> >
> >
> > Gary Carson
> > http://www.garycarson.com
> >
> >
>
> That's impressive.
>
> A friend of mine was required to carry a cell phone as part of his job. The
was
> the second person that was to be called in the case of a disaster and start
> getting the systems up and running at the recovery site. It broke. He
notified
> his boss and requested the paper work to get a replacement. It was signed by
his
> boss then went the the Manager then to the Director. After it was signed it
went
> to the Purchasing Manger. The purchasing Manager notified the technician in
> charge of Cell phones. This person reads the order form and reaches across to
> the cubical beside him and tells my friend that he missed some information.
Cost
> codes. Instead of giving it to the guy right beside him he puts it back into
the
> interoffice mail. It goes back through the chain and gets the 6 digit cost
code.
> Then it has to go back through the chain to get an initial on it and back to
the
> Cell Phone guy. It is approved and and order is placed. The phone arrive and
> sits in reach of the guy for 4 days. Final it goes to the property manager
to be
> entered into the asset tracking system. then it goes to the Manager then to
the
> supervisor then to the guy. The whole thing took 3 months. Not bad for
something
> deemed Critical
>
> A beer to the first person that can figure out the industry of this business.

I'll guess they are in the consulting business and go into companies to
observe and recommend ways to improve efficiency.

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Date: 06 Dec 21:17:36
From: CHarrison100
Subject: Re: OT: In the workplace

On Dec 6 2006 4:02 PM, ecr72 wrote:

> On Dec 6 2006 10:53 AM, CHarrison100 wrote:
>
> > On Dec 6 2006 1:39 PM, Gary Carson wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Dec 6 2006 10:07 AM, Kinnipak wrote:
> > >
> > > > I was reading a post by CHarrison100 in another thread and it got me
> > > > wondering:
> > > >
> > > > What is the STUPIDEST rule you have ever encountered in a workplace
> > > > environment?
> > >
> > > Oh that's easy.
> > >
> > > The US Navy.
> > >
> > > Our ship was anchored in Da Nang harbor, providing gunfire support for a
> > > marine
> > > unit making a landing on the otherside of the hill North of town. They
> were
> > > supposed to be taking out some bad guy mortar position in the hill that
> were
> > > being used to attack various spots at the Naval facility in Da Nang.
> > >
> > > There had recently been some frieghters sunk in the harbor by swimmers so
> we
> > > were assigned a swift boat to circle our anchored ship, looking for
> swimmers.
> > >
> > > The normal deck watch when anchored consisted of an officer of the deck, a
> > > bosuns mate of the watch and a messenger. Sometimes the bosuns mate was
> armed
> > > with a .45, sometimes not. In Danang harbor he was armed and we an extra
> man
> > > on
> > > the watch, a sentry armed with an M1 who was a walking perimeter lookout
> for
> > > boarders. We had two .50c machine guns mounted two decks above, but they
> > > weren't manned and the ammunition for them was locked up and to access it
> the
> > > messenger would have to awaken the duty Gunner's Mate who had the key for
> the
> > > bullet locker.
> > >
> > > The clips for the .45 and the M1 were kept in an unlocked drawer at the
> > > quarterdeck.
> > >
> > > So if the sentry ran across boarders he was supposed to walk to the
> > > quarterdeck,
> > > notifiy the OOD, sign out a clip, and return to fire on the boarders. You
> > > know
> > > that would be the boarders who by now are below decks blowing up our
> boilers
> > > or
> > > something.
> > >
> > > That was our nation at war. I've not yet run across anything quite that
> > > stupid
> > > in corporate America.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Gary Carson
> > > http://www.garycarson.com/
> > >
> > >
> >
> > That's impressive.
> >
> > A friend of mine was required to carry a cell phone as part of his job. The
> was
> > the second person that was to be called in the case of a disaster and start
> > getting the systems up and running at the recovery site. It broke. He
> notified
> > his boss and requested the paper work to get a replacement. It was signed by
> his
> > boss then went the the Manager then to the Director. After it was signed it
> went
> > to the Purchasing Manger. The purchasing Manager notified the technician in
> > charge of Cell phones. This person reads the order form and reaches across
> > to
> > the cubical beside him and tells my friend that he missed some information.
> Cost
> > codes. Instead of giving it to the guy right beside him he puts it back into
> the
> > interoffice mail. It goes back through the chain and gets the 6 digit cost
> code.
> > Then it has to go back through the chain to get an initial on it and back to
> the
> > Cell Phone guy. It is approved and and order is placed. The phone arrive and
> > sits in reach of the guy for 4 days. Final it goes to the property manager
> to be
> > entered into the asset tracking system. then it goes to the Manager then to
> the
> > supervisor then to the guy. The whole thing took 3 months. Not bad for
> something
> > deemed Critical
> >
> > A beer to the first person that can figure out the industry of this
> > business.
>
> I'll guess they are in the consulting business and go into companies to
> observe and recommend ways to improve efficiency.

Correct. Next time you are in the Toronto area your first beer is taken care of.

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Date: 06 Dec 19:50:24
From: Gary Carson
Subject: Re: OT: In the workplace

Sounds like FEMA to me.

On Dec 6 2006 12:53 PM, CHarrison100 wrote:

>
> On Dec 6 2006 1:39 PM, Gary Carson wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Dec 6 2006 10:07 AM, Kinnipak wrote:
> >
> > > I was reading a post by CHarrison100 in another thread and it got me
> > > wondering:
> > >
> > > What is the STUPIDEST rule you have ever encountered in a workplace
> > > environment?
> >
> > Oh that's easy.
> >
> > The US Navy.
> >
> > Our ship was anchored in Da Nang harbor, providing gunfire support for a
> > marine
> > unit making a landing on the otherside of the hill North of town. They were
> > supposed to be taking out some bad guy mortar position in the hill that were
> > being used to attack various spots at the Naval facility in Da Nang.
> >
> > There had recently been some frieghters sunk in the harbor by swimmers so we
> > were assigned a swift boat to circle our anchored ship, looking for
> > swimmers.
> >
> > The normal deck watch when anchored consisted of an officer of the deck, a
> > bosuns mate of the watch and a messenger. Sometimes the bosuns mate was
> > armed
> > with a .45, sometimes not. In Danang harbor he was armed and we an extra
> > man
> > on
> > the watch, a sentry armed with an M1 who was a walking perimeter lookout for
> > boarders. We had two .50c machine guns mounted two decks above, but they
> > weren't manned and the ammunition for them was locked up and to access it
> > the
> > messenger would have to awaken the duty Gunner's Mate who had the key for
> > the
> > bullet locker.
> >
> > The clips for the .45 and the M1 were kept in an unlocked drawer at the
> > quarterdeck.
> >
> > So if the sentry ran across boarders he was supposed to walk to the
> > quarterdeck,
> > notifiy the OOD, sign out a clip, and return to fire on the boarders. You
> > know
> > that would be the boarders who by now are below decks blowing up our boilers
> > or
> > something.
> >
> > That was our nation at war. I've not yet run across anything quite that
> > stupid
> > in corporate America.
> >
> >
> >
> > Gary Carson
> > http://www.garycarson.com
> >
> >
>
> That's impressive.
>
> A friend of mine was required to carry a cell phone as part of his job. The
> was
> the second person that was to be called in the case of a disaster and start
> getting the systems up and running at the recovery site. It broke. He notified
> his boss and requested the paper work to get a replacement. It was signed by
> his
> boss then went the the Manager then to the Director. After it was signed it
> went
> to the Purchasing Manger. The purchasing Manager notified the technician in
> charge of Cell phones. This person reads the order form and reaches across to
> the cubical beside him and tells my friend that he missed some information.
> Cost
> codes. Instead of giving it to the guy right beside him he puts it back into
> the
> interoffice mail. It goes back through the chain and gets the 6 digit cost
> code.
> Then it has to go back through the chain to get an initial on it and back to
> the
> Cell Phone guy. It is approved and and order is placed. The phone arrive and
> sits in reach of the guy for 4 days. Final it goes to the property manager to
> be
> entered into the asset tracking system. then it goes to the Manager then to
> the
> supervisor then to the guy. The whole thing took 3 months. Not bad for
> something
> deemed Critical
>
> A beer to the first person that can figure out the industry of this business.
>
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Date: 06 Dec 19:56:11
From: CHarrison100
Subject: Re: OT: In the workplace

On Dec 6 2006 2:50 PM, Gary Carson wrote:

> Sounds like FEMA to me.
>
> On Dec 6 2006 12:53 PM, CHarrison100 wrote:
>
> >
> > On Dec 6 2006 1:39 PM, Gary Carson wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Dec 6 2006 10:07 AM, Kinnipak wrote:
> > >
> > > > I was reading a post by CHarrison100 in another thread and it got me
> > > > wondering:
> > > >
> > > > What is the STUPIDEST rule you have ever encountered in a workplace
> > > > environment?
> > >
> > > Oh that's easy.
> > >
> > > The US Navy.
> > >
> > > Our ship was anchored in Da Nang harbor, providing gunfire support for a
> > > marine
> > > unit making a landing on the otherside of the hill North of town. They
> > > were
> > > supposed to be taking out some bad guy mortar position in the hill that
> > > were
> > > being used to attack various spots at the Naval facility in Da Nang.
> > >
> > > There had recently been some frieghters sunk in the harbor by swimmers so
> > > we
> > > were assigned a swift boat to circle our anchored ship, looking for
> > > swimmers.
> > >
> > > The normal deck watch when anchored consisted of an officer of the deck, a
> > > bosuns mate of the watch and a messenger. Sometimes the bosuns mate was
> > > armed
> > > with a .45, sometimes not. In Danang harbor he was armed and we an extra
> > > man
> > > on
> > > the watch, a sentry armed with an M1 who was a walking perimeter lookout
> > > for
> > > boarders. We had two .50c machine guns mounted two decks above, but they
> > > weren't manned and the ammunition for them was locked up and to access it
> > > the
> > > messenger would have to awaken the duty Gunner's Mate who had the key for
> > > the
> > > bullet locker.
> > >
> > > The clips for the .45 and the M1 were kept in an unlocked drawer at the
> > > quarterdeck.
> > >
> > > So if the sentry ran across boarders he was supposed to walk to the
> > > quarterdeck,
> > > notifiy the OOD, sign out a clip, and return to fire on the boarders. You
> > > know
> > > that would be the boarders who by now are below decks blowing up our
> > > boilers
> > > or
> > > something.
> > >
> > > That was our nation at war. I've not yet run across anything quite that
> > > stupid
> > > in corporate America.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Gary Carson
> > > http://www.garycarson.com
> > >
> > >
> >
> > That's impressive.
> >
> > A friend of mine was required to carry a cell phone as part of his job. The
> > was
> > the second person that was to be called in the case of a disaster and start
> > getting the systems up and running at the recovery site. It broke. He
> > notified
> > his boss and requested the paper work to get a replacement. It was signed by
> > his
> > boss then went the the Manager then to the Director. After it was signed it
> > went
> > to the Purchasing Manger. The purchasing Manager notified the technician in
> > charge of Cell phones. This person reads the order form and reaches across
> > to
> > the cubical beside him and tells my friend that he missed some information.
> > Cost
> > codes. Instead of giving it to the guy right beside him he puts it back into
> > the
> > interoffice mail. It goes back through the chain and gets the 6 digit cost
> > code.
> > Then it has to go back through the chain to get an initial on it and back to
> > the
> > Cell Phone guy. It is approved and and order is placed. The phone arrive and
> > sits in reach of the guy for 4 days. Final it goes to the property manager
> > to
> > be
> > entered into the asset tracking system. then it goes to the Manager then to
> > the
> > supervisor then to the guy. The whole thing took 3 months. Not bad for
> > something
> > deemed Critical
> >
> > A beer to the first person that can figure out the industry of this
> > business.
> >
> Gary Carson
> http://www.garycarson.com
>
>

Nope. Wrong Country and it was not a government agency.

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Date: 06 Dec 2006 09:10:32
From: Tad Perry
Subject: Re: In the workplace

"Kinnipak" <a83ea3b@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
news:4e6j44x661.ln2@recgroups.com...
> I was reading a post by CHarrison100 in another thread and it got me
> wondering:
>
> What is the STUPIDEST rule you have ever encountered in a workplace
> enviornment?

Having to take off your shoes and put on slippers to enter the restroom. Of
course that was Japan and a lot of people might think it's not so stupid,
but *I* always thought it was stupid.

In the US, there's a stupid employee/contractor divide that I can't stand.
Rules like "contractors cannot enter the golf tournament," "contractors may
only park in the lot across the street," and so on are a result of this odd
form of discrimination. Meanwhile, a contractor, depending on what s/he's
there for, level of expertise, etc., could easily be making more than the
employee next to him/her.

tvp

Date: 06 Dec 18:43:43
From: Gary Carson
Subject: Re: In the workplace

Back when I was a corporate dweeb who sometimes hired contractors, if the wage
of an employee was 1, then typically the wage of a contractor was 1.8. And the
cost of an employee was about 3 and the cost of a contractor was about 2.2

On Dec 6 2006 11:10 AM, Tad Perry wrote:

> "Kinnipak" wrote in message
> news:4e6j44x661.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > I was reading a post by CHarrison100 in another thread and it got me
> > wondering:
> >
> > What is the STUPIDEST rule you have ever encountered in a workplace
> > enviornment?
>
> Having to take off your shoes and put on slippers to enter the restroom. Of
> course that was Japan and a lot of people might think it's not so stupid,
> but *I* always thought it was stupid.
>
> In the US, there's a stupid employee/contractor divide that I can't stand.
> Rules like "contractors cannot enter the golf tournament," "contractors may
> only park in the lot across the street," and so on are a result of this odd
> form of discrimination. Meanwhile, a contractor, depending on what s/he's
> there for, level of expertise, etc., could easily be making more than the
> employee next to him/her.
>
> tvp
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Date: 06 Dec 2006 10:38:47
From: WuzYoungOnceToo2
Subject: Re: In the workplace

My nomination wouldn't be a rule per se, but a policy. Namely, the
policy of paying bonuses to software developers who diagnosed and
corrected significant performance problems...in code that they wrote to
begin with.

Date: 06 Dec 18:36:19
From: CHarrison100
Subject: Re: In the workplace

On Dec 6 2006 12:10 PM, Tad Perry wrote:

> "Kinnipak" wrote in message
> news:4e6j44x661.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > I was reading a post by CHarrison100 in another thread and it got me
> > wondering:
> >
> > What is the STUPIDEST rule you have ever encountered in a workplace
> > enviornment?
>
> Having to take off your shoes and put on slippers to enter the restroom. Of
> course that was Japan and a lot of people might think it's not so stupid,
> but *I* always thought it was stupid.
>
> In the US, there's a stupid employee/contractor divide that I can't stand.
> Rules like "contractors cannot enter the golf tournament," "contractors may
> only park in the lot across the street," and so on are a result of this odd
> form of discrimination. Meanwhile, a contractor, depending on what s/he's
> there for, level of expertise, etc., could easily be making more than the
> employee next to him/her.
>
> tvp

The income difference usually relates to the lack of benefits. Factor those in
and you will be equal or less in most cases. When I Contracted in the 90's this
was the case.

I get a kick out of the fact that our new office that we built and moved into in
Sep of this year has a handicap access able door but not a stall or sink that
they can use.

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Date: 06 Dec 2006 10:55:37
From: Kinnipak
Subject: Re: In the workplace

On Dec 6 2006 12:36 PM, CHarrison100 wrote:

> On Dec 6 2006 12:10 PM, Tad Perry wrote:
>
> > "Kinnipak" wrote in message
> > news:4e6j44x661.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > > I was reading a post by CHarrison100 in another thread and it got me
> > > wondering:
> > >
> > > What is the STUPIDEST rule you have ever encountered in a workplace
> > > enviornment?
> >
> > Having to take off your shoes and put on slippers to enter the restroom. Of
> > course that was Japan and a lot of people might think it's not so stupid,
> > but *I* always thought it was stupid.
> >
> > In the US, there's a stupid employee/contractor divide that I can't stand.
> > Rules like "contractors cannot enter the golf tournament," "contractors may
> > only park in the lot across the street," and so on are a result of this odd
> > form of discrimination. Meanwhile, a contractor, depending on what s/he's
> > there for, level of expertise, etc., could easily be making more than the
> > employee next to him/her.
> >
> > tvp
>
> The income difference usually relates to the lack of benefits. Factor those
in
> and you will be equal or less in most cases. When I Contracted in the 90's
this
> was the case.
>
> I get a kick out of the fact that our new office that we built and moved
into in
> Sep of this year has a handicap access able door but not a stall or sink that
> they can use.

I've always found it interesting that when I go to the store, mall, movies
etc, there are SO many handicapp parking places. Maybe it's just where I
live, but I always laugh at how many of them there are. Why? Who came up
with the proper number for needed spaces and on what did they base this
criteria? The Target by me has 30 spaces for H.parking. 30!

I am in no way saying they are not needed, but that many at one store
seems a little over the top if you ask me.

I am NOT making fun of handicapped people. I am not be-littling them or
their situation.

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Date: 06 Dec 2006 12:37:15
From: ecr72
Subject: Re: In the workplace

On Dec 6 2006 10:55 AM, Kinnipak wrote:

> I've always found it interesting that when I go to the store, mall, movies
> etc, there are SO many handicapp parking places. Maybe it's just where I
> live, but I always laugh at how many of them there are. Why? Who came up
> with the proper number for needed spaces and on what did they base this
> criteria? The Target by me has 30 spaces for H.parking. 30!
>
> I am in no way saying they are not needed, but that many at one store
> seems a little over the top if you ask me.
>
> I am NOT making fun of handicapped people. I am not be-littling them or
> their situation.

Just wait another 10 years or so when the baby boomers all start getting
their permanent handicap placards. Those spots will be filled by people
with minor handicaps getting out of their BMW, Lexus or Mercedes to pick
up their $4 generic drugs at Walmart. I laugh every time I go to Walmart
and see the lineup of luxury cars in those spots.

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Date: 06 Dec 2006 12:43:42
From: MysteriAce
Subject: Re: In the workplace

On Dec 6 2006 1:37 PM, ecr72 wrote:

> On Dec 6 2006 10:55 AM, Kinnipak wrote:
>
> > I've always found it interesting that when I go to the store, mall, movies
> > etc, there are SO many handicapp parking places. Maybe it's just where I
> > live, but I always laugh at how many of them there are. Why? Who came up
> > with the proper number for needed spaces and on what did they base this
> > criteria? The Target by me has 30 spaces for H.parking. 30!
> >
> > I am in no way saying they are not needed, but that many at one store
> > seems a little over the top if you ask me.
> >
> > I am NOT making fun of handicapped people. I am not be-littling them or
> > their situation.
>
> Just wait another 10 years or so when the baby boomers all start getting
> their permanent handicap placards. Those spots will be filled by people
> with minor handicaps getting out of their BMW, Lexus or Mercedes to pick
> up their $4 generic drugs at Walmart. I laugh every time I go to Walmart
> and see the lineup of luxury cars in those spots.

Are you saying that only poor people are allowed to be handicapped? Or do
you see being poor as the only legitimate handicap? Why do you hate poor
people so much?

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Date: 06 Dec 2006 12:58:06
From: ecr72
Subject: Re: In the workplace

On Dec 6 2006 12:43 PM, MysteriAce wrote:

> On Dec 6 2006 1:37 PM, ecr72 wrote:
>
> > On Dec 6 2006 10:55 AM, Kinnipak wrote:
> >
> > > I've always found it interesting that when I go to the store, mall,
movies
> > > etc, there are SO many handicapp parking places. Maybe it's just where I
> > > live, but I always laugh at how many of them there are. Why? Who came up
> > > with the proper number for needed spaces and on what did they base this
> > > criteria? The Target by me has 30 spaces for H.parking. 30!
> > >
> > > I am in no way saying they are not needed, but that many at one store
> > > seems a little over the top if you ask me.
> > >
> > > I am NOT making fun of handicapped people. I am not be-littling them or
> > > their situation.
> >
> > Just wait another 10 years or so when the baby boomers all start getting
> > their permanent handicap placards. Those spots will be filled by people
> > with minor handicaps getting out of their BMW, Lexus or Mercedes to pick
> > up their $4 generic drugs at Walmart. I laugh every time I go to Walmart
> > and see the lineup of luxury cars in those spots.
>
> Are you saying that only poor people are allowed to be handicapped? Or do
> you see being poor as the only legitimate handicap? Why do you hate poor
> people so much?

No, I just know how easy it is to get one of those permanent placards.
Wait, I mean yes... I hate poor people. I mean, I hate those rich people
that can buy preferential parking. I mean... FU and your mind games.

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Date: 07 Dec 2006 02:38:06
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: In the workplace

I saw on the news last night that a guy in Boston paid $250,000.00 for an
out door parking space! Apparently the owner advertised the space for sale
and got a buyer. Now how nuts is this guy going to go the first time he
shows up and finds some one else parked in his quarter of a million dollar
parking space!

Irish Mike

"ecr72" <a166c@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
news:ufnj44xl42.ln2@recgroups.com...
> On Dec 6 2006 12:43 PM, MysteriAce wrote:
>
>> On Dec 6 2006 1:37 PM, ecr72 wrote:
>>
>> > On Dec 6 2006 10:55 AM, Kinnipak wrote:
>> >
>> > > I've always found it interesting that when I go to the store, mall,
> movies
>> > > etc, there are SO many handicapp parking places. Maybe it's just
>> > > where I
>> > > live, but I always laugh at how many of them there are. Why? Who came
>> > > up
>> > > with the proper number for needed spaces and on what did they base
>> > > this
>> > > criteria? The Target by me has 30 spaces for H.parking. 30!
>> > >
>> > > I am in no way saying they are not needed, but that many at one store
>> > > seems a little over the top if you ask me.
>> > >
>> > > I am NOT making fun of handicapped people. I am not be-littling them
>> > > or
>> > > their situation.
>> >
>> > Just wait another 10 years or so when the baby boomers all start
>> > getting
>> > their permanent handicap placards. Those spots will be filled by
>> > people
>> > with minor handicaps getting out of their BMW, Lexus or Mercedes to
>> > pick
>> > up their $4 generic drugs at Walmart. I laugh every time I go to
>> > Walmart
>> > and see the lineup of luxury cars in those spots.
>>
>> Are you saying that only poor people are allowed to be handicapped? Or
>> do
>> you see being poor as the only legitimate handicap? Why do you hate poor
>> people so much?
>
> No, I just know how easy it is to get one of those permanent placards.
> Wait, I mean yes... I hate poor people. I mean, I hate those rich people
> that can buy preferential parking. I mean... FU and your mind games.
>
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Date: 06 Dec 22:14:31
From: my cousin,my gastroentero
Subject: Re: In the workplace

On Dec 6 2006 2:58 PM, ecr72 wrote:

> On Dec 6 2006 12:43 PM, MysteriAce wrote:
>
> > On Dec 6 2006 1:37 PM, ecr72 wrote:
> >
> > > On Dec 6 2006 10:55 AM, Kinnipak wrote:
> > >
> > > > I've always found it interesting that when I go to the store, mall,
> movies
> > > > etc, there are SO many handicapp parking places. Maybe it's just where I
> > > > live, but I always laugh at how many of them there are. Why? Who came up
> > > > with the proper number for needed spaces and on what did they base this
> > > > criteria? The Target by me has 30 spaces for H.parking. 30!
> > > >
> > > > I am in no way saying they are not needed, but that many at one store
> > > > seems a little over the top if you ask me.
> > > >
> > > > I am NOT making fun of handicapped people. I am not be-littling them or
> > > > their situation.
> > >
> > > Just wait another 10 years or so when the baby boomers all start getting
> > > their permanent handicap placards. Those spots will be filled by people
> > > with minor handicaps getting out of their BMW, Lexus or Mercedes to pick
> > > up their $4 generic drugs at Walmart. I laugh every time I go to Walmart
> > > and see the lineup of luxury cars in those spots.
> >
> > Are you saying that only poor people are allowed to be handicapped? Or do
> > you see being poor as the only legitimate handicap? Why do you hate poor
> > people so much?
>
> No, I just know how easy it is to get one of those permanent placards.
> Wait, I mean yes... I hate poor people. I mean, I hate those rich people
> that can buy preferential parking. I mean... FU and your mind games.

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Date: 07 Dec
From: Gary Carson
Subject: Re: In the workplace

On Dec 6 2006 4:14 PM, my cousin,my gastroentero wrote:

>
>
> On Dec 6 2006 2:58 PM, ecr72 wrote:
>
> > On Dec 6 2006 12:43 PM, MysteriAce wrote:
> >
> > > On Dec 6 2006 1:37 PM, ecr72 wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Dec 6 2006 10:55 AM, Kinnipak wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I've always found it interesting that when I go to the store, mall,
> > movies
> > > > > etc, there are SO many handicapp parking places. Maybe it's just where
> > > > > I
> > > > > live, but I always laugh at how many of them there are. Why? Who came
> > > > > up
> > > > > with the proper number for needed spaces and on what did they base
> > > > > this
> > > > > criteria? The Target by me has 30 spaces for H.parking. 30!
> > > > >
> > > > > I am in no way saying they are not needed, but that many at one store
> > > > > seems a little over the top if you ask me.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am NOT making fun of handicapped people. I am not be-littling them
> > > > > or
> > > > > their situation.
> > > >
> > > > Just wait another 10 years or so when the baby boomers all start getting
> > > > their permanent handicap placards. Those spots will be filled by people
> > > > with minor handicaps getting out of their BMW, Lexus or Mercedes to pick
> > > > up their $4 generic drugs at Walmart. I laugh every time I go to
> > > > Walmart
> > > > and see the lineup of luxury cars in those spots.
> > >
> > > Are you saying that only poor people are allowed to be handicapped? Or do
> > > you see being poor as the only legitimate handicap? Why do you hate poor
> > > people so much?
> >
> > No, I just know how easy it is to get one of those permanent placards.
> > Wait, I mean yes... I hate poor people. I mean, I hate those rich people
> > that can buy preferential parking. I mean... FU and your mind games.
>
>
> ecr72 doesn't care about the poor and wants them all locked up.

After the civil war cities like NO got swamped with homeless freed slaves from
the countryside. The NO police did exactly what you suggest. They didn't
arrest them, they just opened empty jail cells every night to give the homeless
a place to sleep. In the morning they'd feed them breakfast and let them go.

The carpet-baggers running the state government passed a law saying that only
official state agencies could house the homeless, putting the cities
humanitarian efforts on the behalf of the poor to a stop.

The state built housing facilities and put the poor in them while they rented
out the poors labor to sugar cane plantations. We don't want to help the poor,
but if the state can help out those former slaves by selling their forced labor
then that's okay.

You gotta love those yankee carpetbaggers. I think they were republicans. Free
the slaves. Then lock them up in forced labor camps.

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Date: 06 Dec 2006 17:38:42
From: ecr72
Subject: Re: In the workplace

On Dec 6 2006 5:16 PM, Gary Carson wrote:

> On Dec 6 2006 4:14 PM, my cousin,my gastroentero wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On Dec 6 2006 2:58 PM, ecr72 wrote:
> > >
> > > No, I just know how easy it is to get one of those permanent placards.
> > > Wait, I mean yes... I hate poor people. I mean, I hate those rich people
> > > that can buy preferential parking. I mean... FU and your mind games.
> >
> >
> > ecr72 doesn't care about the poor and wants them all locked up.
>
> After the civil war cities like NO got swamped with homeless freed slaves
from
> the countryside. The NO police did exactly what you suggest. They didn't
> arrest them, they just opened empty jail cells every night to give the
homeless
> a place to sleep. In the morning they'd feed them breakfast and let them go.
>
> The carpet-baggers running the state government passed a law saying that only
> official state agencies could house the homeless, putting the cities
> humanitarian efforts on the behalf of the poor to a stop.
>
> The state built housing facilities and put the poor in them while they rented
> out the poors labor to sugar cane plantations. We don't want to help the
poor,
> but if the state can help out those former slaves by selling their forced
labor
> then that's okay.
>
> You gotta love those yankee carpetbaggers. I think they were republicans.
Free
> the slaves. Then lock them up in forced labor camps.

Ya see my cousin, my gambino or whatever the fuck your name is. I'm just
trying to help the poor, give them a place to sleep, clean up and a nice
warm meal when I lock them up. You sir, the one who jokes about locking
them up as if it's a bad thing, are obviously the oppressive type. I bet
you would like to see the poor in labor camps. I bet my cousin, my
gastrointestinal is a (gasp) republican.

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Date: 06 Dec 2006 18:03:09
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: In the workplace

> I bet my cousin, my gastrointestinal is a (gasp) republican.

I think the term you're looking for is "no good pinko commie bleeding
heart yellow bellied liberal."

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Date: 06 Dec 2006 16:57:17
From: ecr72
Subject: Re: In the workplace

On Dec 6 2006 2:14 PM, my cousin,my gastroentero wrote:

> On Dec 6 2006 2:58 PM, ecr72 wrote:
>
> > On Dec 6 2006 12:43 PM, MysteriAce wrote:
> >
> > > On Dec 6 2006 1:37 PM, ecr72 wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Dec 6 2006 10:55 AM, Kinnipak wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I've always found it interesting that when I go to the store, mall,
> > movies
> > > > > etc, there are SO many handicapp parking places. Maybe it's just
where I
> > > > > live, but I always laugh at how many of them there are. Why? Who
came up
> > > > > with the proper number for needed spaces and on what did they base
this
> > > > > criteria? The Target by me has 30 spaces for H.parking. 30!
> > > > >
> > > > > I am in no way saying they are not needed, but that many at one store
> > > > > seems a little over the top if you ask me.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am NOT making fun of handicapped people. I am not be-littling them
or
> > > > > their situation.
> > > >
> > > > Just wait another 10 years or so when the baby boomers all start
getting
> > > > their permanent handicap placards. Those spots will be filled by
people
> > > > with minor handicaps getting out of their BMW, Lexus or Mercedes to
pick
> > > > up their $4 generic drugs at Walmart. I laugh every time I go to
Walmart
> > > > and see the lineup of luxury cars in those spots.
> > >
> > > Are you saying that only poor people are allowed to be handicapped? Or
do
> > > you see being poor as the only legitimate handicap? Why do you hate poor
> > > people so much?
> >
> > No, I just know how easy it is to get one of those permanent placards.
> > Wait, I mean yes... I hate poor people. I mean, I hate those rich people
> > that can buy preferential parking. I mean... FU and your mind games.
>
>
> ecr72 doesn't care about the poor and wants them all locked up.

all but you sir, I like you

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Date: 06 Dec 2006 10:35:42
From: your name
Subject: Re: In the workplace

"Tad Perry" <tadperry@comcast.net > wrote in message
news:_ZydnZhL5NwDZOvYnZ2dnUVZ_uGdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> "Kinnipak" <a83ea3b@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> news:4e6j44x661.ln2@recgroups.com...
>> I was reading a post by CHarrison100 in another thread and it got me
>> wondering:
>>
>> What is the STUPIDEST rule you have ever encountered in a workplace
>> enviornment?
>
> Having to take off your shoes and put on slippers to enter the restroom.
> Of
> course that was Japan and a lot of people might think it's not so stupid,
> but *I* always thought it was stupid.
>
> In the US, there's a stupid employee/contractor divide that I can't stand.
> Rules like "contractors cannot enter the golf tournament," "contractors
> may
> only park in the lot across the street," and so on are a result of this
> odd
> form of discrimination. Meanwhile, a contractor, depending on what s/he's
> there for, level of expertise, etc., could easily be making more than the
> employee next to him/her.
> tvp
>
>

So, what you are saying is it would be different( or ok) if the
discrimination was based on level of income RATHER than on possible conflict
of interest.

Date: 06 Dec 2006 14:38:39
From: Howard Treesong
Subject: Re: In the workplace

ecr72 wrote:

> Just wait another 10 years or so when the baby boomers all start getting
> their permanent handicap placards. Those spots will be filled by people
> with minor handicaps getting out of their BMW, Lexus or Mercedes to pick
> up their $4 generic drugs at Walmart. I laugh every time I go to Walmart
> and see the lineup of luxury cars in those spots.

I drive a big fat Benz, but had a handicapped placard for several
months before and after my recent back surgery. I gotta tell you, it
was a lifesaver: there a six-week period where I could walk about
fifty steps before the pain started to amplify, and it felt like pain
was related to the square of the distance after that. Even though I'm
not near 100% yet (and perhaps may never be), I gave up the placard
November 1.

-Howard Treesong

Date: 06 Dec 2006 16:53:34
From: ecr72
Subject: Re: In the workplace

On Dec 6 2006 2:38 PM, Howard Treesong wrote:

> ecr72 wrote:
>
> > Just wait another 10 years or so when the baby boomers all start getting
> > their permanent handicap placards. Those spots will be filled by people
> > with minor handicaps getting out of their BMW, Lexus or Mercedes to pick
> > up their $4 generic drugs at Walmart. I laugh every time I go to Walmart
> > and see the lineup of luxury cars in those spots.
>
> I drive a big fat Benz, but had a handicapped placard for several
> months before and after my recent back surgery. I gotta tell you, it
> was a lifesaver: there a six-week period where I could walk about
> fifty steps before the pain started to amplify, and it felt like pain
> was related to the square of the distance after that. Even though I'm
> not near 100% yet (and perhaps may never be), I gave up the placard
> November 1.
>
> -Howard Treesong

Fat Benz, skinny BMW, slanted Lexus, I don't care. Next time I see
someone in a handicapped spot get out without visible signs of pain, a
limp, a sling or some other noticeable ailment I'm running them over. Be
warned. Oh and if you're in some shitbox like a 1984 Dodge Caravan I'll
probably not even look for the limp or ailment and just hit the gas.

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Date: 06 Dec 2006 11:24:09
From: Howard Treesong
Subject: Re: In the workplace

Kinnipak wrote:

> I am NOT making fun of handicapped people. I am not be-littling them or
> their situation.

You, Kinnipak, are almost certainly an anti-Dentite.

-Howard Treesong

Date: 06 Dec 2006 11:33:18
From: Kinnipak
Subject: Re: In the workplace

On Dec 6 2006 1:24 PM, Howard Treesong wrote:

> Kinnipak wrote:
>
> > I am NOT making fun of handicapped people. I am not be-littling them or
> > their situation.
>
> You, Kinnipak, are almost certainly an anti-Dentite.
>
> -Howard Treesong

Bit of a close talker too.....

well played sir.

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Date: 06 Dec 19:34:42
From: Porsche_Dan
Subject: Re: In the workplace

On Dec 6 2006 1:24 PM, Howard Treesong wrote:

> Kinnipak wrote:
>
> > I am NOT making fun of handicapped people. I am not be-littling them or
> > their situation.

Did you know that in California obesity is a handicap and will get you a blue
parking placard? Seriosiously, we wouldn't want fat people to burn those excess
calories walking a few extra spaces now would we? And you can bet that all those
blue parking spaces in front of the fast food joints are always full now.

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Date: 07 Dec 2006 13:13:35
From: John_Brian_K
Subject: Re: In the workplace

> Fat Benz, skinny BMW, slanted Lexus, I don't care. Next time I see
> someone in a handicapped spot get out without visible signs of pain, a
> limp, a sling or some other noticeable ailment I'm running them over. Be
> warned. Oh and if you're in some shitbox like a 1984 Dodge Caravan I'll
> probably not even look for the limp or ailment and just hit the gas.

lol

Date: 06 Dec 2006 08:38:46
From: MysteriAce
Subject: Re: OT: In the workplace

On Dec 6 2006 9:07 AM, Kinnipak wrote:

> I was reading a post by CHarrison100 in another thread and it got me
> wondering:
>
> What is the STUPIDEST rule you have ever encountered in a workplace
> enviornment?
>
> (Morphy should love this one....)

I'm sure I'll think of more by the end of the day, but the one that stands
out immediately is the seemingly universal policy of giving - say - 6 sick
days per year to an employee, but listing in the employee handbook that
missing 6 days a year due to sickness can get you poor reviews or put on a
performance plan. Why the fuck do you get six days, then?

~ MysteriAce

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Foe and friend
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Date: 06 Dec 16:29:32
From: arlo payne
Subject: Re: OT: In the workplace

On Dec 6 2006 9:07 AM, Kinnipak wrote:

> I was reading a post by CHarrison100 in another thread and it got me
> wondering:
>
> What is the STUPIDEST rule you have ever encountered in a workplace
> enviornment?
>
> (Morphy should love this one....)

I have heard some places expect people to show up.
You would think they could just mail a check and reduce all the related bullshit
of getting dressed and driving somewhere each day.

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Date: 06 Dec 16:43:11
From: CHarrison100
Subject: Re: OT: In the workplace

On Dec 6 2006 11:29 AM, arlo payne wrote:

>
>
>
> On Dec 6 2006 9:07 AM, Kinnipak wrote:
>
> > I was reading a post by CHarrison100 in another thread and it got me
> > wondering:
> >
> > What is the STUPIDEST rule you have ever encountered in a workplace
> > enviornment?
> >
> > (Morphy should love this one....)
>
> I have heard some places expect people to show up.
> You would think they could just mail a check and reduce all the related
> bullshit
> of getting dressed and driving somewhere each day.
>
>
Doesn't the government do that, Social assistance, or welfare or something like
that?

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Date: 06 Dec 2006 08:14:28
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: OT: In the workplace

> I was reading a post by CHarrison100 in another thread and it got me
> wondering:
>
> What is the STUPIDEST rule you have ever encountered in a workplace
> enviornment?
>
> (Morphy should love this one....)

Too many to list. INPUT overflow. ERROR, ERROR. BZZZZT. Shutdown
sequence initiating.

<splat >

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Date: 06 Dec 2006 08:19:23
From: Kinnipak
Subject: Re: OT: In the workplace

On Dec 6 2006 10:14 AM, XaQ Morphy wrote:

> > I was reading a post by CHarrison100 in another thread and it got me
> > wondering:
> >
> > What is the STUPIDEST rule you have ever encountered in a workplace
> > enviornment?
> >
> > (Morphy should love this one....)
>
> Too many to list. INPUT overflow. ERROR, ERROR. BZZZZT. Shutdown
> sequence initiating.
>
> <splat>
>
> Morphy
> http://donkeymanifesto.blogspot.com

that about what I figured would happen.........

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Date: 07 Dec 2006 14:45:22
From: WuzYoungOnceToo
Subject: Re: OT: In the workplace

On Dec 7, 2:18 pm, "bo dark" <tx1...@yahoo.com > wrote:
>
> one that i read about a couple of years ago was a vegetarian business
> owner in virginia made a rule that meat eaters couldn't eat in the same
> lunchroom with the vegetarians,i was surprised this didn't get more air
> time.

How ridiculous. Coleman assures me us vegetarianism and eating meat
are not mutually exclusive.

Date: 07 Dec 2006 12:34:28
From: bo dark
Subject: Re: OT: In the workplace

Kinnipak wrote:
> I was reading a post by CHarrison100 in another thread and it got me
> wondering:
>
> What is the STUPIDEST rule you have ever encountered in a workplace
> enviornment?
>
> (Morphy should love this one....)
>
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Vegan CEO hopes to influence employees with meat-free cafeteria
ROANOKE, Va. (AP) - For telephone company CEO Norm Mason, a vegan and
lifelong animal lover, there was never any doubt what he'd offer at his
company cafeteria.
Vivian Porter helps herself to some of the vegetarian food at
Virginia-based Cat Communications International.
Sam Dean, AP

Soy steaks and soy sloppy joes, veggie burgers, nachos and other
meatless, eggless, butter-free delicacies are cooked daily using heavy
bags of texturized vegetable protein.

If that doesn't sound so great, consider this: It's all free.

Mason says he created the "Vegeteria" out of concern for the well-being
of his 200 employees of Cat Communications International. So he's
giving them all the fresh vegetables, meat substitutes, cakes and
drinks they could ever want.

"This was a way to say: 'Look, we don't feel it's right to have the
flesh of an animal, an animal killed for your benefit,'" Mason said. "I
see it no different than smoking. People are asked to go outside and
smoke."

It also will hopefully teach them respect for animals, he says, a value
symbolized by Lucille, the paralyzed dog he adopted that follows
workers around on a little wheeled contraption.

Bruce Friedrich, a spokesman for People for the Ethical Treatment of
Animals, says Mason is part of a growing number of vegetarian and vegan
CEOS, including Steve Jobs of Apple Computers Inc., Michael Eisner from
Walt Disney Co., John Mackey of Whole Foods Market Inc. and Bill Ford
of Ford Motor Co., who have made it easier for employees to eat
meat-free.

"They haven't actually prohibited eating meat, but they've certainly
increased exponentially the vegan offerings in their cafeterias,"
Friedrich said.

But Mason, who is a PETA member, wants to go beyond catering to current
vegetarians. He sees a person's craving for meat as a nasty habit that
can be broken. By providing free vegetarian lunches and stocking the
room with information pamphlets about vegetarianism, Mason hopes to
nudge his carnivorous employees toward a different lifestyle.

"We are, I think, addicted to the foods we are fed as children," he
said. "It's the fat and the sugar and the salt in our food that becomes
so addictive."

Mason, 60, gave up meat about 25 years ago. He said he eased into it
after a period of soul-searching about the food on his plate.

Since then, he has grown increasingly serious about the vegetarian
lifestyle after researching - and he's ready with statistics if asked
- how many cows, pigs and chickens people could save in a lifetime by
not eating meat, the percentages of Americans who are obese, the amount
of degradation the meat industry inflicts on the environment, and more.

"It's pretty scary what we're doing to animals," he said.

Mason began offering vegetarian meals about four years ago, and he also
has established an Angels of Assisi office in the building that
provides a discount spay and neuter service, an adoption center for
cats and dogs, and a sanctuary for farm animals.

So far, however, Mason's carnivorous employees have been slow to
reform.

"They have this thing called 'soyberry steak' instead of Salisbury
steak," says Michaela Goodman, a 19-year-old customer service staffer,
while delicately picking at a plate of corn and coleslaw.

"It just didn't seem right. The fake meat stuff is not for me. I tried
the nachos, though, and that looked about the same. It was pretty
good."

As she ate, workers filtered in and refilled soft drinks or nibbled on
the cake. A few stopped in front of the platters of sloppy joes, potato
soup, lima beans and fried potato wedges.

Ginger Hinkley, 33, was more practical about her salad: "I'm not one of
those veggies, but it's free. Where else could you work and they'd
actually give you free food?"

A few disgruntled employees called a local television station to
complain about not being able to bring meat into the Vegeteria. But
Mason says they still can eat meat - they just have to take it into
another company room. Or they could go out for lunch.

"I try to combine as much preaching with living by example," Mason
said. "That's why the cafeteria is free. Nobody's forced to eat in the
cafeteria. They can go somewhere else. If they want to spend their
money, that is their right.

"But I hope through example, they would say, 'Hey, this is pretty good
stuff.'"

Date: 07 Dec 2006 12:18:46
From: bo dark
Subject: Re: OT: In the workplace

Date: 07 Dec 2006 12:01:18
From: tvp
Subject: Re: In the workplace

your name wrote:
> "Tad Perry" <tadperry@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:_ZydnZhL5NwDZOvYnZ2dnUVZ_uGdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> > "Kinnipak" <a83ea3b@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> > news:4e6j44x661.ln2@recgroups.com...
> >> I was reading a post by CHarrison100 in another thread and it got me
> >> wondering:
> >>
> >> What is the STUPIDEST rule you have ever encountered in a workplace
> >> enviornment?
> >
> > Having to take off your shoes and put on slippers to enter the restroom.
> > Of
> > course that was Japan and a lot of people might think it's not so stupid,
> > but *I* always thought it was stupid.
> >
> > In the US, there's a stupid employee/contractor divide that I can't stand.
> > Rules like "contractors cannot enter the golf tournament," "contractors
> > may
> > only park in the lot across the street," and so on are a result of this
> > odd
> > form of discrimination. Meanwhile, a contractor, depending on what s/he's
> > there for, level of expertise, etc., could easily be making more than the
> > employee next to him/her.
> > tvp
> >
> >
>
> So, what you are saying is it would be different( or ok) if the
> discrimination was based on level of income RATHER than on possible conflict
> of interest.

Date: 07 Dec 2006 11:57:05
From: tvp
Subject: Re: In the workplace