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Date: 20 Dec
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: OT: I Don't Get It
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So with all the current drama going on over at 2+2, which was then cross
referenced to other drama from 2+2, which was then cross referenced to other
drama at NeverwinPoker.com, which was then cross referenced on
PocketFives.com.......
Can someone tell me how and/or why RGP is given such a shitty ranking by other
forums???
Tell me it's not just because of spammers.
I have seen more images of any and all forms of sexual acts and more images of
breasts in the past day or two perusing 2+2 and NeverwinPoker.com then I have
ever seen in my life. *(Yeah, I admit I don't peruse porn on the net)
WTF is going on with these forums and WHY???
Why does RGP get such a bad rep with all this other shit that's going on over
there? I just don't get it.
T
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 20:58:43
From: FellKnight
Subject: Re: OT: I Don't Get It
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On Dec 19 2006 9:43 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
> So with all the current drama going on over at 2+2, which was then cross
> referenced to other drama from 2+2, which was then cross referenced to other
> drama at NeverwinPoker.com, which was then cross referenced on
> PocketFives.com.......
>
> Can someone tell me how and/or why RGP is given such a shitty ranking by
other
> forums???
>
> Tell me it's not just because of spammers.
>
> I have seen more images of any and all forms of sexual acts and more images
of
> breasts in the past day or two perusing 2+2 and NeverwinPoker.com then I have
> ever seen in my life. *(Yeah, I admit I don't peruse porn on the net)
>
> WTF is going on with these forums and WHY???
>
> Why does RGP get such a bad rep with all this other shit that's going on over
> there? I just don't get it.
>
> T
Neverwin poker: All titties, all the time!
Pocketfives: Circlejerks are where it's at..
'4': Mason tastes salty.
Fell
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 07:52:00
From: Murray Logan
Subject: Re: OT: I Don't Get It
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> '4': Mason tastes salty.
>
> Fell
Man, no one ever gives me the cite.
Murray
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 20:57:55
From: Zidane Valor
Subject: Re: OT: I Don't Get It
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Because we are unable to post pictures on this group.
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 23:50:37
From: A Man Beaten by Jacks
Subject: Re: OT: I Don't Get It
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On Wed, 20 Dec 06 4:43:36 GMT, Tanya AKA MissT74 <43084303@recpoker.com > wrote:
>So with all the current drama going on over at 2+2, which was then cross
>referenced to other drama from 2+2, which was then cross referenced to other
>drama at NeverwinPoker.com, which was then cross referenced on
>PocketFives.com.......
>Can someone tell me how and/or why RGP is given such a shitty ranking by other
>forums???
They're just hatas.
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Date: 20 Dec 19:04:47
From: JohnnyCoconuts
Subject: Re: OT: I Don't Get It
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Being a relative newbie here, and so maybe this is a little more obvious to me,
I can give you my 2 cents if you want it.
1. There is obviously a LOT of spam on here that you have to wade through. A
lot of people have neither the time nor the inclination to access through
Recgroups or some other service with filtering capabilities. And weeding
through 47 depost bonus posts and 132 rakeback posts just to get to the one post
about whether to raise with 10-Js in LP is not many people's idea of time well
spent.
2. Even once you get past the pure spam, there's a lot of OT discussions that
you then have to get through. (At last count, 391 "George Bush is the devil"
posts, 674 Iraq war posts, 3 "who is sleeping with whom" posts, 2 posts about
who was screwing who as reported on ANOTHER forum, etc., etc. etc.) A fair
number of the topics start off as poker-based but then degenerate into
a discourse of the relative aristry of Annie Duke's tattoo. While I have to
agree that such a topic is indeed fascinating, and I'll sure that CNN will soon
be doing a 16 part, in-depth investigative report into the subject, it is
arguably not what some people come here to read about.
3. A lot of you guys and gals have been here a while, and, to newbies, it seems
very much like a small club that some people don't want anyone else in. (By the
way, I do realize that this is NOT the case, but it really does come across that
way a lot of time.) I think a lot of people who have (undiagnosed) emotional
issues may have a problem with that in feeling that they are never going to be a
part of the group, and so they put it down. (Someone else I think said
basically the same thing above.) Fortunately for me, I literally could not care
less what anyone thinks of me, so I'm perfectly comfortable chiming in with
sophmoric comments whenever I feel like it and not worrying if one of the
Prophets or the peanut gallery disagrees with me. ;)
4. Since the other groups have an identifiable operator(s), there is someone to
respond to questions about the group, give interviews, come up with new ideas,
run ranking systems, etc. All that crap gets you mentioned in the magazines.
What is CP going to say about RGP other than a number of present pros used to
post here? (Of course, they'll pick up the
5. Face it, when you ask a poker-related question here, there are about 5
people who really have any sort of clue and can give any sort of coherent answer
(probably for the reasons above). And, due to #3, there is very little material
and substantive disagreement over how to play a particular hand or what to do or
not do in any given situation. Once you've been here a few months and figured
out the playing styles of those 5 people, there's really not a whole lot more to
it. (Obviously with the caveat that one or two other people will speak up every
now and then, but they never seem to last long.)
Still, I think you can get something out of this group if you put in the time
and effort, which would both be larger commitments than with respect to a
moderated group. But at the end of the day, I think very few people have the
time or want to put forth the effort.
On Dec 19 2006 11:43 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
>
> So with all the current drama going on over at 2+2, which was then cross
> referenced to other drama from 2+2, which was then cross referenced to other
> drama at NeverwinPoker.com, which was then cross referenced on
> PocketFives.com.......
>
> Can someone tell me how and/or why RGP is given such a shitty ranking by other
> forums???
>
> Tell me it's not just because of spammers.
>
> I have seen more images of any and all forms of sexual acts and more images of
> breasts in the past day or two perusing 2+2 and NeverwinPoker.com then I have
> ever seen in my life. *(Yeah, I admit I don't peruse porn on the net)
>
> WTF is going on with these forums and WHY???
>
> Why does RGP get such a bad rep with all this other shit that's going on over
> there? I just don't get it.
>
> T
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Date: 21 Dec 2006 00:13:26
From: Palooka
Subject: Re: OT: I Don't Get It
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"JohnnyCoconuts" <43084389@recpoker.com > wrote in message
news:1166641487$925218@recpoker.com...
>
> Being a relative newbie here, and so maybe this is a little more obvious
> to me,
> I can give you my 2 cents if you want it.
>
> 1. There is obviously a LOT of spam on here that you have to wade through.
> A
> lot of people have neither the time nor the inclination to access through
> Recgroups or some other service with filtering capabilities. And weeding
> through 47 depost bonus posts and 132 rakeback posts just to get to the
> one post
> about whether to raise with 10-Js in LP is not many people's idea of time
> well
> spent.
>
> 2. Even once you get past the pure spam, there's a lot of OT discussions
> that
> you then have to get through. (At last count, 391 "George Bush is the
> devil"
> posts, 674 Iraq war posts, 3 "who is sleeping with whom" posts, 2 posts
> about
> who was screwing who as reported on ANOTHER forum, etc., etc. etc.) A fair
> number of the topics start off as poker-based but then degenerate into
> a discourse of the relative aristry of Annie Duke's tattoo. While I have
> to
> agree that such a topic is indeed fascinating, and I'll sure that CNN will
> soon
> be doing a 16 part, in-depth investigative report into the subject, it is
> arguably not what some people come here to read about.
>
> 3. A lot of you guys and gals have been here a while, and, to newbies, it
> seems
> very much like a small club that some people don't want anyone else in.
> (By the
> way, I do realize that this is NOT the case, but it really does come
> across that
> way a lot of time.) I think a lot of people who have (undiagnosed)
> emotional
> issues may have a problem with that in feeling that they are never going
> to be a
> part of the group, and so they put it down. (Someone else I think said
> basically the same thing above.) Fortunately for me, I literally could not
> care
> less what anyone thinks of me, so I'm perfectly comfortable chiming in
> with
> sophmoric comments whenever I feel like it and not worrying if one of the
> Prophets or the peanut gallery disagrees with me. ;)
>
> 4. Since the other groups have an identifiable operator(s), there is
> someone to
> respond to questions about the group, give interviews, come up with new
> ideas,
> run ranking systems, etc. All that crap gets you mentioned in the
> magazines.
> What is CP going to say about RGP other than a number of present pros used
> to
> post here? (Of course, they'll pick up the
>
> 5. Face it, when you ask a poker-related question here, there are about 5
> people who really have any sort of clue and can give any sort of coherent
> answer
> (probably for the reasons above). And, due to #3, there is very little
> material
> and substantive disagreement over how to play a particular hand or what to
> do or
> not do in any given situation. Once you've been here a few months and
> figured
> out the playing styles of those 5 people, there's really not a whole lot
> more to
> it. (Obviously with the caveat that one or two other people will speak up
> every
> now and then, but they never seem to last long.)
>
> Still, I think you can get something out of this group if you put in the
> time
> and effort, which would both be larger commitments than with respect to a
> moderated group. But at the end of the day, I think very few people have
> the
> time or want to put forth the effort.
>
That's a thoughtful and well written post.
Sure there is a ton of spam here, as well as the tedious "rigged" stuff. And
there is plenty of joking around. But there are still enough good players
here who will give freely of their advice, if asked in the right way. We
should be grateful for that IMHO; sufficiently so as to be prepared to wade
through the crap in order to get to it. Besides which, being unmoderated
does have its advantages...
Palooka
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 08:57:41
From: Bronzedodger
Subject: Re: OT: I Don't Get It
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On Dec 19 2006 11:43 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
> Why does RGP get such a bad rep with all this other shit that's going on over
> there? I just don't get it.
>
> T
I think it's 'cause Morphy is always flying off the handle.
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 09:20:55
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: OT: I Don't Get It
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> I think it's 'cause Morphy is always flying off the handle.
If you're implying that I am the cause of RGP's downfall and hatred, I
take that as a compliment. Thanks!
Morphy
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 13:34:31
From: Bronzedodger
Subject: Re: OT: I Don't Get It
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On Dec 20 2006 12:20 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:
> > I think it's 'cause Morphy is always flying off the handle.
>
> If you're implying that I am the cause of RGP's downfall and hatred, I
> take that as a compliment. Thanks!
>
> Morphy
I got 'cher back buddy.
"Emperor XaQ fiddled while RGP burned (or, flamed...)"
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Date: 20 Dec 13:15:31
From: arlo payne
Subject: Re: OT: I Don't Get It
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On Dec 19 2006 9:43 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
>
> So with all the current drama going on over at 2+2, which was then cross
> referenced to other drama from 2+2, which was then cross referenced to other
> drama at NeverwinPoker.com, which was then cross referenced on
> PocketFives.com.......
>
> Can someone tell me how and/or why RGP is given such a shitty ranking by other
> forums???
>
> Tell me it's not just because of spammers.
>
> I have seen more images of any and all forms of sexual acts and more images of
> breasts in the past day or two perusing 2+2 and NeverwinPoker.com then I have
> ever seen in my life. *(Yeah, I admit I don't peruse porn on the net)
>
> WTF is going on with these forums and WHY???
>
> Why does RGP get such a bad rep with all this other shit that's going on over
> there? I just don't get it.
>
> T
Simple
The carpetbaggers hate RGP because they can not control it.
RGP is the only open and free voice in the world of poker.
The carpetbaggers can not hide behind bullshit here. The truth can be presented
to the world. It was RGP that broke many cheating scams that took place. RGP
also will call a spade a spade and expose scams that many of the carperbaggers
try to pull off.
POWER TO FREE VOICE POWER TO RGP.
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 07:25:40
From: igotskillz com
Subject: Re: OT: I Don't Get It
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On Dec 20 2006 9:15 AM, arlo payne wrote:
> On Dec 19 2006 9:43 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
>
> >
> > So with all the current drama going on over at 2+2, which was then cross
> > referenced to other drama from 2+2, which was then cross referenced to
other
> > drama at NeverwinPoker.com, which was then cross referenced on
> > PocketFives.com.......
> >
> > Can someone tell me how and/or why RGP is given such a shitty ranking by
other
> > forums???
> >
> > Tell me it's not just because of spammers.
> >
> > I have seen more images of any and all forms of sexual acts and more
images of
> > breasts in the past day or two perusing 2+2 and NeverwinPoker.com then I
have
> > ever seen in my life. *(Yeah, I admit I don't peruse porn on the net)
> >
> > WTF is going on with these forums and WHY???
> >
> > Why does RGP get such a bad rep with all this other shit that's going on
over
> > there? I just don't get it.
> >
> > T
>
>
> Simple
> The carpetbaggers hate RGP because they can not control it.
> RGP is the only open and free voice in the world of poker.
> The carpetbaggers can not hide behind bullshit here. The truth can be
presented
> to the world. It was RGP that broke many cheating scams that took place.
RGP
> also will call a spade a spade and expose scams that many of the
carperbaggers
> try to pull off.
>
> POWER TO FREE VOICE POWER TO RGP.
They don't have uninhibited minds like this place. Pretty much what Arlo
just said.
Thank YOU
www.igotskillz.com
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 12:47:30
From: Palooka
Subject: Re: I Don't Get It
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"Tanya AKA MissT74" <43084303@recpoker.com > wrote in message
news:1166589816$924834@recpoker.com...
>
<snip >
> Can someone tell me how and/or why RGP is given such a shitty ranking by
> other
> forums???
<snip >
Why should we care? Anyway (thank goodness), people can't post images here.
That is a huge plus.
Palooka
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Date: 20 Dec 11:58:16
From: Gary Carson
Subject: Re: OT: I Don't Get It
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On Dec 19 2006 10:43 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
>
> So with all the current drama going on over at 2+2, which was then cross
> referenced to other drama from 2+2, which was then cross referenced to other
> drama at NeverwinPoker.com, which was then cross referenced on
> PocketFives.com.......
>
> Can someone tell me how and/or why RGP is given such a shitty ranking by other
> forums???
You probably never will understand it.
It's because most people have an intense personal need to be accepted and
validated by others. Rgp does not have anyone on payroll with the job of
validating the fears and biases of posters.
There are other reasons, It's all about social fears.
I won't participate in a moderated forum simply becuase I don't want to be
moderated. But other's like moderated forums because if someone else gets
thrown out of the group it validates their acceptance as being special.
The sex thing is because the psychology of moderation is pretty much the same as
the psychology of 19 year old frat boys -- they elevate themselves into a
self-identified "speical" status by defining others as not worthy. And the part
of the brain that we get our human traits of caring about others don't fully
develop until about 22.
Gary Carson
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 09:48:00
From: Raider Fan
Subject: Re: OT: I Don't Get It
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On Dec 20 2006 5:58 AM, Gary Carson wrote:
>
> I won't participate in a moderated forum simply becuase I don't want to be
> moderated. But other's like moderated forums because if someone else gets
> thrown out of the group it validates their acceptance as being special.
>
Witness the 2+2 posters calling for the ban on the guy that did the fake
Capatin Tom posts.
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Date: 20 Dec 21:23:32
From: Gary Carson
Subject: Re: OT: I Don't Get It
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On Dec 20 2006 11:48 AM, Raider Fan wrote:
> On Dec 20 2006 5:58 AM, Gary Carson wrote:
>
> >
> > I won't participate in a moderated forum simply becuase I don't want to be
> > moderated. But other's like moderated forums because if someone else gets
> > thrown out of the group it validates their acceptance as being special.
> >
>
> Witness the 2+2 posters calling for the ban on the guy that did the fake
> Capatin Tom posts.
Exactly.
There are a number of calls for bans for various reasons in that thread.
Kids are big on throwing someone out of the group.
I always got a kick out of the old feminist nonsense about how little boys are
taught to play games differfently than little girls. The claim being stiff like
you have to have 9 kids to play baseball or 11 kids to play football so
oftentime boys would let kids they didn't like to play so they'd have the right
number.
How ignorant. When I was a kid and we played sandlot games half the time we'd
have mis-matched sides --- 8 on one side and 7 on the other. The numbers 9 and
11 were meaningless to us. And although the general rule was that if another
player showed up he got put on the side with 7 there were times that nobody
liked the kid we'd just play without him, or even 9 on one side and 7 on the
other, if the team with 7 just didn't like him and the team with 8 were willing
to accept him.
I think Mark Twains story about joining clubs is on target.
Gary Carson
http://www.garycarson.com
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 14:57:24
From: minus200(DELETETHIS)
Subject: Re: OT: I Don't Get It
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why didnt someone tell me it was graphic about sex - now I will have to
try out 4 for the 1st time in a LOOONNGGG time. M&S must need something
to get readership. Nah it is not worth the efort
Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
> So with all the current drama going on over at 2+2, which was then cross
> referenced to other drama from 2+2, which was then cross referenced to other
> drama at NeverwinPoker.com, which was then cross referenced on
> PocketFives.com.......
>
> Can someone tell me how and/or why RGP is given such a shitty ranking by other
> forums???
>
> Tell me it's not just because of spammers.
>
> I have seen more images of any and all forms of sexual acts and more images of
> breasts in the past day or two perusing 2+2 and NeverwinPoker.com then I have
> ever seen in my life. *(Yeah, I admit I don't peruse porn on the net)
>
> WTF is going on with these forums and WHY???
>
> Why does RGP get such a bad rep with all this other shit that's going on over
> there? I just don't get it.
>
> T
>
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of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but
rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, scotch in the
other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming
"WOO HOO what a ride!"
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Date: 20 Dec 22:27:59
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: OT: I Don't Get It
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On Dec 20 2006 1:48 PM, minus200(DELETETHIS) wrote:
> why didnt someone tell me it was graphic about sex - now I will have to
> try out 4 for the 1st time in a LOOONNGGG time. M&S must need something
> to get readership. Nah it is not worth the efort
Actually, when I was referring to the graphic sex, I was referring more to NWP
then 4. I mean, good GOD, they all act like a bunch of horny 13 year olds that
have never seen IT let alone DONE it.
T
>
> Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
> > So with all the current drama going on over at 2+2, which was then cross
> > referenced to other drama from 2+2, which was then cross referenced to other
> > drama at NeverwinPoker.com, which was then cross referenced on
> > PocketFives.com.......
> >
> > Can someone tell me how and/or why RGP is given such a shitty ranking by
> > other
> > forums???
> >
> > Tell me it's not just because of spammers.
> >
> > I have seen more images of any and all forms of sexual acts and more images
> > of
> > breasts in the past day or two perusing 2+2 and NeverwinPoker.com then I
> > have
> > ever seen in my life. *(Yeah, I admit I don't peruse porn on the net)
> >
> > WTF is going on with these forums and WHY???
> >
> > Why does RGP get such a bad rep with all this other shit that's going on
> > over
> > there? I just don't get it.
> >
> > T
> >
> > _______________________________________________________________
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>
> --
> MINUS200
>
> "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention
> of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but
> rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, scotch in the
> other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming
> "WOO HOO what a ride!"
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 18:26:47
From: minus200(DELETETHIS)
Subject: Re: OT: I Don't Get It
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ACTUALLY - I have been married for many years so I know nothing about sex
>
>
> Actually, when I was referring to the graphic sex, I was referring more to NWP
> then 4. I mean, good GOD, they all act like a bunch of horny 13 year olds that
> have never seen IT let alone DONE it.
>
> T
>
>
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 16:25:53
From: Raider Fan
Subject: Re: OT: I Don't Get It
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On Dec 20 2006 6:26 PM, minus200(DELETETHIS) wrote:
> ACTUALLY - I have been married for many years so I know nothing about sex
>
Two days of the year it's a lock. My birthday and Christmas. Just my
luck that they are two days in a row. :(
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 12:25:54
From:
Subject: Re: OT: I Don't Get It
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Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
> So with all the current drama going on over at 2+2, which was then cross
> referenced to other drama from 2+2, which was then cross referenced to other
> drama at NeverwinPoker.com, which was then cross referenced on
> PocketFives.com.......
>
> Can someone tell me how and/or why RGP is given such a shitty ranking by other
> forums???
>
> Tell me it's not just because of spammers.
>
> I have seen more images of any and all forms of sexual acts and more images of
> breasts in the past day or two perusing 2+2 and NeverwinPoker.com then I have
> ever seen in my life. *(Yeah, I admit I don't peruse porn on the net)
>
> WTF is going on with these forums and WHY???
>
> Why does RGP get such a bad rep with all this other shit that's going on over
> there? I just don't get it.
>
> T
>
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Most of the areas I check out at 2+2 actually talk about poker. RGP
barely ever gets onto the subject.
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 11:22:20
From: Iceman
Subject: Re: OT: I Don't Get It
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Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
> So with all the current drama going on over at 2+2, which was then cross
> referenced to other drama from 2+2, which was then cross referenced to other
> drama at NeverwinPoker.com, which was then cross referenced on
> PocketFives.com.......
>
> Can someone tell me how and/or why RGP is given such a shitty ranking by other
> forums???
The level of strategy discussion is much higher at 2+2, even if a few
of the forums have a lot of fluff. Most of the best RGP posters left
for 2+2 years ago.
> Why does RGP get such a bad rep with all this other shit that's going on over
> there? I just don't get it.
95% of this newsgroup is just Russ, rumors, spam, and politics.
2+2 is 90% poker content.
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 14:57:59
From: Iceman
Subject: Re: OT: I Don't Get It
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Gary Carson wrote:
> On Dec 20 2006 1:22 PM, Iceman wrote:
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> > Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
> > > So with all the current drama going on over at 2+2, which was then cross
> > > referenced to other drama from 2+2, which was then cross referenced to other
> > > drama at NeverwinPoker.com, which was then cross referenced on
> > > PocketFives.com.......
> > >
> > > Can someone tell me how and/or why RGP is given such a shitty ranking by
> > > other
> > > forums???
> >
> > The level of strategy discussion is much higher at 2+2, even if a few
> > of the forums have a lot of fluff. Most of the best RGP posters left
> > for 2+2 years ago.
>
> The frequency or reletave level of strategy discussion at 4 might be higher, but
> that doesn't make the level of discussion higher.
The quantity and quality of discussion there is far higher than here.
Maybe in 1999 it was arguable which forum was better, but now it's no
contest. Most of what passes for poker discussion here is complaints
about sites being rigged or how someone played AA in a .25/.50 game.
> The moderation policies make the level of discussion lower even though it gives
> an appearance of a higher level of discussion.
I disagree. While Mason occasionally goes overboard by banning
legitimate posters, it keeps the forums from becoming dominated by
Russ, spam, and flame wars.
> Look at things like the banning of Badger, Abdul and me.
I personally don't agree with any of those bans. But you know Mason
doesn't take well to people who refuse to follow his rules.
> It's behavior of Mason that harms the quality of discussion that makes it
> successful because it gives an appearance of higher quality based on a
> consistency that looks like more quality but in actuallity it's just group
> think.
Critics of the 2+2 Forum accuse it of group think...but S&M's ideas are
often heavily debated there. When the smoke clears, David and Mason
are almost always right.
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Date: 20 Dec 23:37:58
From: Gary Carson
Subject: Re: OT: I Don't Get It
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On Dec 20 2006 4:57 PM, Iceman wrote:
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> I personally don't agree with any of those bans. But you know Mason
> doesn't take well to people who refuse to follow his rules.
The rule I violated was that Mason didn't have to live up to his aggrements and
I did. That wasn't acceptable to me.
In my case, I'd made a specific agreement with his webmaster (I forget her name,
Jessica, something like that) that they could archive my posts if they would
agree to archive all my posts, not just just selective archival.
She was Mason's agent, she agreed.
Mason violated that agreement.
I complained and simply said that the least he could do was apologize.
His reponse was to remove all my posts from his archives and save them in a
personal archive (his agent did that). Then he didn't allow me access to the
archives of my own work.
It wasn't me that didn't follow the rules. It was Mason.
Don't ever give me any bullshit about Mason Malmuth being honest. He's
worthless, has no integrity at all.
>
> > It's behavior of Mason that harms the quality of discussion that makes it
> > successful because it gives an appearance of higher quality based on a
> > consistency that looks like more quality but in actuallity it's just group
> > think.
>
> Critics of the 2+2 Forum accuse it of group think...but S&M's ideas are
> often heavily debated there. When the smoke clears, David and Mason
> are almost always right.
Duh. That's because they control the debate. When I debated some of his ideas
with him he often just deleted my comments rather than debate them. It's
pointless to even think about having an honest debate with Mason on that forum.
Not one post of mine that was deleted by Mason which was critical of his work
has been proven wrong. In fact, Mason now claims much of it is true but claims
he's always said that. He not only misrepresents what others say he
misrepresents what he himself has said.
He's not just a crooked businessman (his attempt to get June Field to kill my
work for Poker Digest with a threat to use his market power against her if she
didn't was illegal), he's an intellectual fraud.
I read 2+2 every once in a while. I often see volumes of just utter nonsense on
that site. They have more poker discusson but a hell of a lot of it is just
wrong and posters seem to be afraid to correct much of the nonsense. Every once
in a while I'll make a post on http://www.mathandpoker.com/ about a thread on
2+2. Some of the threads I point to are good, more are nonsense.
Gary Carson
http://www.garycarson.com
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Date: 20 Dec 21:32:22
From: Gary Carson
Subject: Re: OT: I Don't Get It
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On Dec 20 2006 1:22 PM, Iceman wrote:
> Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
> > So with all the current drama going on over at 2+2, which was then cross
> > referenced to other drama from 2+2, which was then cross referenced to other
> > drama at NeverwinPoker.com, which was then cross referenced on
> > PocketFives.com.......
> >
> > Can someone tell me how and/or why RGP is given such a shitty ranking by
> > other
> > forums???
>
> The level of strategy discussion is much higher at 2+2, even if a few
> of the forums have a lot of fluff. Most of the best RGP posters left
> for 2+2 years ago.
The frequency or reletave level of strategy discussion at 4 might be higher, but
that doesn't make the level of discussion higher.
The moderation policies make the level of discussion lower even though it gives
an appearance of a higher level of discussion.
Look at things like the banning of Badger, Abdul and me.
It's behavior of Mason that harms the quality of discussion that makes it
successful because it gives an appearance of higher quality based on a
consistency that looks like more quality but in actuallity it's just group
think.
>
> > Why does RGP get such a bad rep with all this other shit that's going on
> > over
> > there? I just don't get it.
>
> 95% of this newsgroup is just Russ, rumors, spam, and politics.
>
> 2+2 is 90% poker content.
Yes. And 19 year olds (and anal older players) tend to think repetitive
quantity is automaticaqlly a good thing.
I happen to think that a wide range of thought, even if much of it is wrong, is
a good thing. But most people don't agree with me.
Gary Carson
http://www.garycarson.com
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Date: 20 Dec 20:28:35
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: OT: I Don't Get It
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>
> 2+2 is 90% poker content.
Not anymore....lol
T
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