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Date: 03 Dec 2006 13:24:22
From: FellKnight
Subject: My Mandatory "I folded AA preflop" post
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Situation: 29 left in a Full Tilt satty, 28 paid.
Fade is an observer who just jammed with KK when he could have folded to a
seat and was berating the monster stack for calling with T2s and sucking
out. Normally I don't say anything after someone busts out, but this guy
was something else.
Full Tilt Poker Game #1347330280: Satellite to $350K Guarantee (9469134),
Table 10 - 400/800 Ante 100 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:17:19 ET - 2006/12/03
Seat 1: Basil_Rex (570)
Seat 4: chkkkk (3,685)
Seat 5: z_sheva (1,520)
Seat 6: FellKnight (2,525)
Seat 7: lucksallugot (30,570)
Seat 8: acdavis5 (165)
Seat 9: ponyboy34 (1,265)
Basil_Rex antes 100
chkkkk antes 100
z_sheva antes 100
FellKnight antes 100
lucksallugot antes 100
acdavis5 antes 100
ponyboy34 antes 100
FellKnight posts the small blind of 400
lucksallugot posts the big blind of 800
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FellKnight [Ad As]
acdavis5 folds
ponyboy34 folds
Basil_Rex folds
FellKnight: lolol
FellKnight: hey Fade
FellKnight: watch this
chkkkk has 15 seconds left to act
chkkkk folds
z_sheva folds
FellKnight: I have AA
FellKnight folds
Uncalled bet of 400 returned to lucksallugot
lucksallugot mucks
lucksallugot wins the pot (1,500)
acdavis5: other table folded to bb now come everyone
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1,500
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Date: 03 Dec 2006 13:38:07
From: FellKnight
Subject: Re: My Mandatory "I folded AA preflop" post
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On Dec 3 2006 2:24 PM, FellKnight wrote:
> Situation: 29 left in a Full Tilt satty, 28 paid.
Amusing addendum to this story:
See this guy?
> Seat 8: acdavis5 (165)
Know how on Full Tilt, they make you play out the tournament until the
conclusion?
Well, he ended up winning all 132,000 chips in play and winning the
tournament.
Chip and a chair for the ages (M = 0.0825)
Fell
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Date: 04 Dec 2006 03:38:39
From: xyious
Subject: Re: My Mandatory "I folded AA preflop" post
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On Dec 3 2006 10:24 PM, FellKnight wrote:
just a question regarding a different satellite on fulltilt where the
following actually happened.
> acdavis5: other table folded to bb now come everyone
i emailed fulltilt support but never got a response. have you witnessed
anything similar ? like watching the other table in question ?
-Alexander Knopf
http://www.xyious.com/?links
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Date: 04 Dec 2006 08:24:26
From: FellKnight
Subject: Re: My Mandatory "I folded AA preflop" post
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On Dec 4 2006 4:38 AM, xyious wrote:
> On Dec 3 2006 10:24 PM, FellKnight wrote:
>
> just a question regarding a different satellite on fulltilt where the
> following actually happened.
>
> > acdavis5: other table folded to bb now come everyone
>
> i emailed fulltilt support but never got a response. have you witnessed
> anything similar ? like watching the other table in question ?
What is wrong with watching the other table? I do it all the time at the
endgame. This guy was complaining that people were still stalling.
>
> -Alexander Knopf
> http://www.xyious.com/?links
Fell
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Date: 04 Dec 2006 09:07:53
From: xyious
Subject: Re: My Mandatory "I folded AA preflop" post
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On Dec 4 2006 5:24 PM, FellKnight wrote:
> On Dec 4 2006 4:38 AM, xyious wrote:
>
> > On Dec 3 2006 10:24 PM, FellKnight wrote:
> >
> > just a question regarding a different satellite on fulltilt where the
> > following actually happened.
> >
> > > acdavis5: other table folded to bb now come everyone
> >
> > i emailed fulltilt support but never got a response. have you witnessed
> > anything similar ? like watching the other table in question ?
>
> What is wrong with watching the other table? I do it all the time at the
> endgame. This guy was complaining that people were still stalling.
not talking about watching or not watching other table.
i was playing a super satellite to the $350k on ftp and everyone on a
certain table folded to the bb. every single hand for the hour that i was
watching, and someone said they had an agreement pretty much since the
whole thing started.
and i haven't got a response from support yet, so i was wondering if that
was a frequent occurence.
>
> >
> > -Alexander Knopf
> > http://www.xyious.com/?links
>
> Fell
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> Website: www.fellknight.com
> Email: fellknight at gmail dot com
-Alexander Knopf
http://www.xyious.com/?links
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Date: 04 Dec 2006 19:36:58
From: FellKnight
Subject: Re: My Mandatory "I folded AA preflop" post
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On Dec 4 2006 10:07 AM, xyious wrote:
> On Dec 4 2006 5:24 PM, FellKnight wrote:
> > On Dec 4 2006 4:38 AM, xyious wrote:
> >
> > > On Dec 3 2006 10:24 PM, FellKnight wrote:
> > >
> > > just a question regarding a different satellite on fulltilt where the
> > > following actually happened.
> > >
> > > > acdavis5: other table folded to bb now come everyone
> > >
> > > i emailed fulltilt support but never got a response. have you witnessed
> > > anything similar ? like watching the other table in question ?
> >
> > What is wrong with watching the other table? I do it all the time at the
> > endgame. This guy was complaining that people were still stalling.
>
> not talking about watching or not watching other table.
> i was playing a super satellite to the $350k on ftp and everyone on a
> certain table folded to the bb. every single hand for the hour that i was
> watching, and someone said they had an agreement pretty much since the
> whole thing started.
> and i haven't got a response from support yet, so i was wondering if that
> was a frequent occurence.
Not that I have seen, and it could certainly be considered collusion.
Fell
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Date: 05 Dec 2006 08:50:28
From: Palooka
Subject: Re: My Mandatory "I folded AA preflop" post
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"FellKnight" <jordandevenport@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:q36f44xhop.ln2@recgroups.com...
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> Not that I have seen, and it could certainly be considered collusion.
>
Could or would?
Is this not akin to the "check it down" scenario, where implicit cooperation
is fine, but discussing it in advance isn't?
Palooka
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Date: 05 Dec 2006 07:45:50
From: FellKnight
Subject: Re: My Mandatory "I folded AA preflop" post
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On Dec 5 2006 1:50 AM, Palooka wrote:
> "FellKnight" <jordandevenport@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:q36f44xhop.ln2@recgroups.com...
> >
> > Not that I have seen, and it could certainly be considered collusion.
> >
> Could or would?
> Is this not akin to the "check it down" scenario, where implicit cooperation
> is fine, but discussing it in advance isn't?
>
> Palooka
Could be, and probably would be, because it would have to have been
disucssed in chat.
Fell
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Date: 04 Dec 2006 14:21:00
From: A Man Beaten by Jacks
Subject: Re: My Mandatory "I folded AA preflop" post
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On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 09:07:53 -0800, "xyious" <a52dfe8@webnntp.invalid > wrote:
>not talking about watching or not watching other table.
>i was playing a super satellite to the $350k on ftp and everyone on a
>certain table folded to the bb. every single hand for the hour that i was
>watching, and someone said they had an agreement pretty much since the
>whole thing started.
>and i haven't got a response from support yet, so i was wondering if that
>was a frequent occurence.
I'd never do this, because in addition to being cheating, there are a number
of other reasons it sucks. One is that all it takes is one defector to break it
all off. Then you're left with a short stack in a tournament and very little
chance of survival.
Another is that you may end up being transferred to another table. If that
occurs, then you are similarly going to be a short stack at a table of
big stacks, and stand very little chance of survival.
While this might work in a perfect world every rare once in a while, I think
in most chances you're going to have a greater chance of winning if you
play your usual game and try to acquire a stack than if you attempt
dodgy collusion with untrustworthy people. (People who would do this
are untrustworthy by definition because they're cheaters.)
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