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Date: 11 Dec 2006 05:05:10
From: Rockkon
Subject: Lake Tahoe Trip Report (long)
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The wife and I spent a week in Tahoe and we checked out the poker while
there. First off, the tourist trade was way down. The time between
Thanksgiving and Christmas is slow and there was little snow to attract
more tourists.
We got in on Saturday and spent that night playing at Lakeside Inn.
It's a smallish room with about 5-7 tables. There were 4 of us, enough
to start a 2-6 limit game. Soon, two others joined us and with their
alcohol comsumption, my wife and I posted a small profit.
We never played 2-6 spread before, the idea is that on the first,
second and third rounds you can bet anywhere from 2 to 6 dollars.
That's all we played the entire trip. There was never enough players
for them to create no limit games.
On Tuesday we played at Harvey's. This seems to be the place for
serious local players. We found the poker room manager a bit
misogynistic as both my wife and I signed up at the same time, but I
got a seat well before her. While I was seated, I saw him call four
other male players before getting to my wife.
The feeling I had when I sat was less "let the fish fry begin" and more
like the Atlantic City scene in Rounders. I'm sure they were not
colluding, but they knew each other so well that outsiders didn't stand
a chance. The room felt closed off and crowded. There were a lot of
tables, but only two had players around them.
After the second man was seated, I had mixed feelings about reminding
the manager that my wife was listed on the board. I didn't want to
knowingly place her in poker danger but, on the other hand, she is a
grown woman. So, I said something to the guy and after 10 minutes my
wife joined the table. We did survive and I think my wife made a
little money in the process.
We found out that the newest casino, the MontBleu, had daily
tournaments at 2:00 and 4:00 every day, then on Mon, Wed, and Fri they
also had an evening tournment. Again, the lack of tourists caused
these to be single table tournaments but they were still fun and they
were no-limit. I won the Wednesday 2:00 and the wife (not to be
outdone) won the Wed 4:00. The buy-in was $40 with an optional $6 for
$300 more in chips. So, you start with $1300. The blinds are 25-50
and they are 15 minute levels. The top three are paid, $165, $99, and
$65 with the rest going to the house.
The Montbleu seemed to be the biggest poker room, with about 20-25
tables. The area is open with a bar at the front so the effect is a
quiet poker area that feels very airy.
Out on the floor, alongside the blackjack tables, we found the Texas
Hold Em table game. This is as -EV as you can imagine. The table
layout includes four spots that holds bets. The first spot holds the
ante. There's a spot for a flop bet, a turn bet and a river bet.
There is also a spot for the "Bonus" bet.
The Bonus bet is optional and is the only bet that pays odds. All
other bets and paid even money no matter what final hand you end up
with. The Bonus bet is on you first two cards only. It can be a bet
anywhere from 1-25 dollars. If your first two cards make a small pair,
you get 3-1. If you get a pair of J, Q, or K, you get 10-1. If you
get pocket rockets, the bonus pays 30-1. You also win the bonus with
an ace and any face card with higher odds paid if ther are suited.
Everyone including the dealer is dealt two down cards. If you want to
see the flop, you have to double your ante. If you want you can bet
the turn, but only for the amount of the ante, not the doubled flop bet
bet. And, if you want, you can bet the river--again just for the
amount of the ante.
The dealer deals the flop, turn and river and turns over his down
cards. Your hand only has to bet the dealers. You only get 1-1 on the
flop, turn and river bets no matter if you beat the dealer with A-high
or a straight flush. Your ante bet is only paid is you make a straight
or better--and you beat the dealer.
For me, the game sucked my money pretty quick, but my wife kicked some
ass. She hit A-Ko for 15-1 about 3 times and got A-Ks for 25-1 about
three times. She would sit with $100 and leave with $250+. I guess
she doesn't know how badly the odds are against her.
On Thursday we went back to Lakeside Inn and found that the poker room
treats the players to pizza! Free pizza, free beer, playing poker and
not worried about getting up in the morning. How does life get any
better?
We played the Friday evening tournament at MontBleu for a $100 buy in.
Again, we got $1000 in chips and this time the levels were 20 minutes,
not 15.
I played pretty well with four hands of note. The first was early on.
I had about $3000 in chips and the blinds were 50-100. On the button I
was dealt K-9s. After three limpers came in, I raised it to $300. Two
players called. The flop came K-5-3 and it was checked to me. I had
top pair and didn't want to see an ace hit the board so I pushed
all-in. The first player folded and the second player went in the
tank. I had him covered and after a bit, he called for his remaining
chips.
I turned over my K-9 thinking it was the best hand. He turned over a
K-5 for two pair. Who plays K-5 for a $300 bet???? Anyway, his grin
went south when I spiked a 9 on the river.
At about the mid point the blinds were at 200-400 and I was dealt Q-Js
in late position. There were no raises and three of us saw the flop.
The flop came Q-J-10. EP checked and MP bet $1200. I called and EP
folded. The turn was another J, pairing the board. MP pushed all-in
for about $5000. My chips beat his into the pot and I tabled my full
house face up. He had 9-10 for a flopped straight.
Shortly after that hand my wife was seated directly to my right. My
luck went south and I mucked hand after hand. Her chips dwindled and I
reminded her that she had to pick two and push. She was being contrary
and was anted out of the tournament.
In fact, in one case, I told her she had to push when she was the big
blind. Not thinking, she said out loud that she wouldn't push if she
didn't have anything. Sure enough, the guy immediately to me left
raised her blind. She folded and that about sealed it for her.
She left 12th out of 77 players.
When she left I started getting cards again. I got Q-10s and raised
three times the blind. It was folded to me. Again, I got Q-10 and
raised, again it was folded to me.
The top five players were getting paid and finally we were down to the
final table. The average stack was about $50,000. The short stack
(God bless him) asked for a split count. Nobody agreed and his $1000
went in the next hand.
I was in the big blind, the blinds being 1000-2000 and the guy to my
left put in his last 1000. It was folded around to the next-to-last
shortie and he put in his last 4000.
So, it's 2000 more to me with the chance to knock two players out. I
look down and see... 7-2o. I laughed and put in the 2000. One other
player started to goad me for playing 7-2 but the chip leader said I
pretty much had to since two players were facing elimination.
I didn't hit, but the next-to-last guy did. Soon enough the bubble
burst and we were down to five. The chip leader had about $60K, I had
about $45K. The blinds are now at 2000-4000. The chip leader is in
the SB, the BB player was being aggressive having bet 30K the last
hand. I look down at pocket 3s and limp in.
The flop comes 3-K-2. I hit my set. The chip leader checked and the
BB bet 30K again. I pushed. The chip leader anguished over whether to
call. He decided to lay down and the BB called for 15K more. He
flipped over K-10. I showed my set and he called for another K.
Everyone laugh and chided him saying a K wouldn't help. My stomach
turned as a K hit the turn. The guy to my right said to relax, I had a
full house. The river was a 2 and my 3-3-3-K-K lost to his K-K-K-2-2.
I'm still cursing the poker gods.
All in all it was a good trip. The people are all friendly. Had there
been more tourists we might have won more money, but both my wife and I
came away from the shark tank with a little profit and I can say that I
placed 5th in the biggest poker tournament in Lake Tahoe held that week.
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Date: 11 Dec 2006 08:22:57
From: FellKnight
Subject: Re: Lake Tahoe Trip Report (long)
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On Dec 11 2006 6:05 AM, Rockkon wrote:
> The wife and I spent a week in Tahoe and we checked out the poker while
> there. First off, the tourist trade was way down. The time between
> Thanksgiving and Christmas is slow and there was little snow to attract
> more tourists.
>
> We got in on Saturday and spent that night playing at Lakeside Inn.
> It's a smallish room with about 5-7 tables. There were 4 of us, enough
> to start a 2-6 limit game. Soon, two others joined us and with their
> alcohol comsumption, my wife and I posted a small profit.
>
> We never played 2-6 spread before, the idea is that on the first,
> second and third rounds you can bet anywhere from 2 to 6 dollars.
> That's all we played the entire trip. There was never enough players
> for them to create no limit games.
>
> On Tuesday we played at Harvey's. This seems to be the place for
> serious local players. We found the poker room manager a bit
> misogynistic as both my wife and I signed up at the same time, but I
> got a seat well before her. While I was seated, I saw him call four
> other male players before getting to my wife.
This was uncool.
> The feeling I had when I sat was less "let the fish fry begin" and more
> like the Atlantic City scene in Rounders. I'm sure they were not
> colluding, but they knew each other so well that outsiders didn't stand
> a chance. The room felt closed off and crowded. There were a lot of
> tables, but only two had players around them.
Amusing. I find it hard to believe that there could be many sharks
playing at 2-6 spread.
> After the second man was seated, I had mixed feelings about reminding
> the manager that my wife was listed on the board. I didn't want to
> knowingly place her in poker danger but, on the other hand, she is a
> grown woman. So, I said something to the guy and after 10 minutes my
> wife joined the table. We did survive and I think my wife made a
> little money in the process.
>
> We found out that the newest casino, the MontBleu, had daily
> tournaments at 2:00 and 4:00 every day, then on Mon, Wed, and Fri they
> also had an evening tournment. Again, the lack of tourists caused
> these to be single table tournaments but they were still fun and they
> were no-limit. I won the Wednesday 2:00 and the wife (not to be
> outdone) won the Wed 4:00. The buy-in was $40 with an optional $6 for
> $300 more in chips. So, you start with $1300. The blinds are 25-50
> and they are 15 minute levels. The top three are paid, $165, $99, and
> $65 with the rest going to the house.
>
> The Montbleu seemed to be the biggest poker room, with about 20-25
> tables. The area is open with a bar at the front so the effect is a
> quiet poker area that feels very airy.
>
> Out on the floor, alongside the blackjack tables, we found the Texas
> Hold Em table game. This is as -EV as you can imagine. The table
> layout includes four spots that holds bets. The first spot holds the
> ante. There's a spot for a flop bet, a turn bet and a river bet.
> There is also a spot for the "Bonus" bet.
>
> The Bonus bet is optional and is the only bet that pays odds. All
> other bets and paid even money no matter what final hand you end up
> with. The Bonus bet is on you first two cards only. It can be a bet
> anywhere from 1-25 dollars. If your first two cards make a small pair,
> you get 3-1. If you get a pair of J, Q, or K, you get 10-1. If you
> get pocket rockets, the bonus pays 30-1. You also win the bonus with
> an ace and any face card with higher odds paid if ther are suited.
>
> Everyone including the dealer is dealt two down cards. If you want to
> see the flop, you have to double your ante. If you want you can bet
> the turn, but only for the amount of the ante, not the doubled flop bet
> bet. And, if you want, you can bet the river--again just for the
> amount of the ante.
>
> The dealer deals the flop, turn and river and turns over his down
> cards. Your hand only has to bet the dealers. You only get 1-1 on the
> flop, turn and river bets no matter if you beat the dealer with A-high
> or a straight flush. Your ante bet is only paid is you make a straight
> or better--and you beat the dealer.
>
> For me, the game sucked my money pretty quick, but my wife kicked some
> ass. She hit A-Ko for 15-1 about 3 times and got A-Ks for 25-1 about
> three times. She would sit with $100 and leave with $250+. I guess
> she doesn't know how badly the odds are against her.
The odds are pretty bad on the bonus bet, but you might be surprised that
the Texas Hold'em game you describe has the best odds in the casino as a
table game, even better than most blackjack tables now (given the multiple
decks/6:5 BJ payouts that are common)... if you play perfect strategy.
The problem is that perfect strategy in that game is quite a lot more
confusing than perfect strategy in blackjack. Most people play far too
tight and don't bet nearly enough with hands like 2nd pair, 3rd pair, and
ace high after the flop and turn. If you do not make these bets, the
house edge is sick, as you are basically laying 3:2 odds to beat a random
hand with a random hand.
> On Thursday we went back to Lakeside Inn and found that the poker room
> treats the players to pizza! Free pizza, free beer, playing poker and
> not worried about getting up in the morning. How does life get any
> better?
>
> We played the Friday evening tournament at MontBleu for a $100 buy in.
> Again, we got $1000 in chips and this time the levels were 20 minutes,
> not 15.
>
> I played pretty well with four hands of note. The first was early on.
> I had about $3000 in chips and the blinds were 50-100. On the button I
> was dealt K-9s. After three limpers came in, I raised it to $300.
Heh, um, why?
>Two players called. The flop came K-5-3 and it was checked to me. I had
> top pair and didn't want to see an ace hit the board so I pushed
> all-in. The first player folded and the second player went in the
> tank. I had him covered and after a bit, he called for his remaining
> chips.
>
> I turned over my K-9 thinking it was the best hand. He turned over a
> K-5 for two pair. Who plays K-5 for a $300 bet????
Someone who was already in for $100 and was getting sick odds to continue.
You should have raised to at least $500 to get any effect, otherwise you
should have limped in or folded.
> Anyway, his grin went south when I spiked a 9 on the river.
Nice suckout.. I think I've played with you somewhere ;)
> At about the mid point the blinds were at 200-400 and I was dealt Q-Js
> in late position. There were no raises and three of us saw the flop.
> The flop came Q-J-10. EP checked and MP bet $1200. I called and EP
> folded. The turn was another J, pairing the board. MP pushed all-in
> for about $5000. My chips beat his into the pot and I tabled my full
> house face up. He had 9-10 for a flopped straight.
>
> Shortly after that hand my wife was seated directly to my right. My
> luck went south and I mucked hand after hand. Her chips dwindled and I
> reminded her that she had to pick two and push.
This is very nearly crossing the line of softplaying.
> She was being contrary and was anted out of the tournament.
Some people simply cannot fathom putting all their money into the pot with
a weak hand.
> In fact, in one case, I told her she had to push when she was the big
> blind. Not thinking, she said out loud that she wouldn't push if she
> didn't have anything. Sure enough, the guy immediately to me left
> raised her blind. She folded and that about sealed it for her.
Ok, now you really did cross the line.
> She left 12th out of 77 players.
>
> When she left I started getting cards again. I got Q-10s and raised
> three times the blind. It was folded to me. Again, I got Q-10 and
> raised, again it was folded to me.
>
> The top five players were getting paid and finally we were down to the
> final table. The average stack was about $50,000. The short stack
> (God bless him) asked for a split count. Nobody agreed and his $1000
> went in the next hand.
>
> I was in the big blind, the blinds being 1000-2000 and the guy to my
> left put in his last 1000. It was folded around to the next-to-last
> shortie and he put in his last 4000.
>
> So, it's 2000 more to me with the chance to knock two players out. I
> look down and see... 7-2o. I laughed and put in the 2000. One other
> player started to goad me for playing 7-2 but the chip leader said I
> pretty much had to since two players were facing elimination.
True enough, but at least nobody had to advise youduring the play of the
hand.
> I didn't hit, but the next-to-last guy did. Soon enough the bubble
> burst and we were down to five. The chip leader had about $60K, I had
> about $45K. The blinds are now at 2000-4000. The chip leader is in
> the SB, the BB player was being aggressive having bet 30K the last
> hand. I look down at pocket 3s and limp in.
>
> The flop comes 3-K-2. I hit my set. The chip leader checked and the
> BB bet 30K again. I pushed. The chip leader anguished over whether to
> call. He decided to lay down and the BB called for 15K more. He
> flipped over K-10. I showed my set and he called for another K.
> Everyone laugh and chided him saying a K wouldn't help. My stomach
> turned as a K hit the turn. The guy to my right said to relax, I had a
> full house. The river was a 2 and my 3-3-3-K-K lost to his K-K-K-2-2.
>
> I'm still cursing the poker gods.
>
> All in all it was a good trip. The people are all friendly. Had there
> been more tourists we might have won more money, but both my wife and I
> came away from the shark tank with a little profit and I can say that I
> placed 5th in the biggest poker tournament in Lake Tahoe held that week.
Good report, good read.
Fell
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Date: 11 Dec 2006 17:54:33
From: Rockkon
Subject: Re: Lake Tahoe Trip Report (long)
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Thanks, Fell.
FellKnight wrote:
> On Dec 11 2006 6:05 AM, Rockkon wrote:
>
> > The wife and I spent a week in Tahoe and we checked out the poker while
> > there. First off, the tourist trade was way down. The time between
> > Thanksgiving and Christmas is slow and there was little snow to attract
> > more tourists.
> >
> > We got in on Saturday and spent that night playing at Lakeside Inn.
> > It's a smallish room with about 5-7 tables. There were 4 of us, enough
> > to start a 2-6 limit game. Soon, two others joined us and with their
> > alcohol comsumption, my wife and I posted a small profit.
> >
> > We never played 2-6 spread before, the idea is that on the first,
> > second and third rounds you can bet anywhere from 2 to 6 dollars.
> > That's all we played the entire trip. There was never enough players
> > for them to create no limit games.
> >
> > On Tuesday we played at Harvey's. This seems to be the place for
> > serious local players. We found the poker room manager a bit
> > misogynistic as both my wife and I signed up at the same time, but I
> > got a seat well before her. While I was seated, I saw him call four
> > other male players before getting to my wife.
>
> This was uncool.
>
> > The feeling I had when I sat was less "let the fish fry begin" and more
> > like the Atlantic City scene in Rounders. I'm sure they were not
> > colluding, but they knew each other so well that outsiders didn't stand
> > a chance. The room felt closed off and crowded. There were a lot of
> > tables, but only two had players around them.
>
> Amusing. I find it hard to believe that there could be many sharks
> playing at 2-6 spread.
>
> > After the second man was seated, I had mixed feelings about reminding
> > the manager that my wife was listed on the board. I didn't want to
> > knowingly place her in poker danger but, on the other hand, she is a
> > grown woman. So, I said something to the guy and after 10 minutes my
> > wife joined the table. We did survive and I think my wife made a
> > little money in the process.
> >
> > We found out that the newest casino, the MontBleu, had daily
> > tournaments at 2:00 and 4:00 every day, then on Mon, Wed, and Fri they
> > also had an evening tournment. Again, the lack of tourists caused
> > these to be single table tournaments but they were still fun and they
> > were no-limit. I won the Wednesday 2:00 and the wife (not to be
> > outdone) won the Wed 4:00. The buy-in was $40 with an optional $6 for
> > $300 more in chips. So, you start with $1300. The blinds are 25-50
> > and they are 15 minute levels. The top three are paid, $165, $99, and
> > $65 with the rest going to the house.
> >
> > The Montbleu seemed to be the biggest poker room, with about 20-25
> > tables. The area is open with a bar at the front so the effect is a
> > quiet poker area that feels very airy.
> >
> > Out on the floor, alongside the blackjack tables, we found the Texas
> > Hold Em table game. This is as -EV as you can imagine. The table
> > layout includes four spots that holds bets. The first spot holds the
> > ante. There's a spot for a flop bet, a turn bet and a river bet.
> > There is also a spot for the "Bonus" bet.
> >
> > The Bonus bet is optional and is the only bet that pays odds. All
> > other bets and paid even money no matter what final hand you end up
> > with. The Bonus bet is on you first two cards only. It can be a bet
> > anywhere from 1-25 dollars. If your first two cards make a small pair,
> > you get 3-1. If you get a pair of J, Q, or K, you get 10-1. If you
> > get pocket rockets, the bonus pays 30-1. You also win the bonus with
> > an ace and any face card with higher odds paid if ther are suited.
> >
> > Everyone including the dealer is dealt two down cards. If you want to
> > see the flop, you have to double your ante. If you want you can bet
> > the turn, but only for the amount of the ante, not the doubled flop bet
> > bet. And, if you want, you can bet the river--again just for the
> > amount of the ante.
> >
> > The dealer deals the flop, turn and river and turns over his down
> > cards. Your hand only has to bet the dealers. You only get 1-1 on the
> > flop, turn and river bets no matter if you beat the dealer with A-high
> > or a straight flush. Your ante bet is only paid is you make a straight
> > or better--and you beat the dealer.
> >
> > For me, the game sucked my money pretty quick, but my wife kicked some
> > ass. She hit A-Ko for 15-1 about 3 times and got A-Ks for 25-1 about
> > three times. She would sit with $100 and leave with $250+. I guess
> > she doesn't know how badly the odds are against her.
>
> The odds are pretty bad on the bonus bet, but you might be surprised that
> the Texas Hold'em game you describe has the best odds in the casino as a
> table game, even better than most blackjack tables now (given the multiple
> decks/6:5 BJ payouts that are common)... if you play perfect strategy.
> The problem is that perfect strategy in that game is quite a lot more
> confusing than perfect strategy in blackjack. Most people play far too
> tight and don't bet nearly enough with hands like 2nd pair, 3rd pair, and
> ace high after the flop and turn. If you do not make these bets, the
> house edge is sick, as you are basically laying 3:2 odds to beat a random
> hand with a random hand.
>
> > On Thursday we went back to Lakeside Inn and found that the poker room
> > treats the players to pizza! Free pizza, free beer, playing poker and
> > not worried about getting up in the morning. How does life get any
> > better?
> >
> > We played the Friday evening tournament at MontBleu for a $100 buy in.
> > Again, we got $1000 in chips and this time the levels were 20 minutes,
> > not 15.
> >
> > I played pretty well with four hands of note. The first was early on.
> > I had about $3000 in chips and the blinds were 50-100. On the button I
> > was dealt K-9s. After three limpers came in, I raised it to $300.
>
> Heh, um, why?
>
> >Two players called. The flop came K-5-3 and it was checked to me. I had
> > top pair and didn't want to see an ace hit the board so I pushed
> > all-in. The first player folded and the second player went in the
> > tank. I had him covered and after a bit, he called for his remaining
> > chips.
> >
> > I turned over my K-9 thinking it was the best hand. He turned over a
> > K-5 for two pair. Who plays K-5 for a $300 bet????
>
> Someone who was already in for $100 and was getting sick odds to continue.
> You should have raised to at least $500 to get any effect, otherwise you
> should have limped in or folded.
>
> > Anyway, his grin went south when I spiked a 9 on the river.
>
> Nice suckout.. I think I've played with you somewhere ;)
>
> > At about the mid point the blinds were at 200-400 and I was dealt Q-Js
> > in late position. There were no raises and three of us saw the flop.
> > The flop came Q-J-10. EP checked and MP bet $1200. I called and EP
> > folded. The turn was another J, pairing the board. MP pushed all-in
> > for about $5000. My chips beat his into the pot and I tabled my full
> > house face up. He had 9-10 for a flopped straight.
> >
> > Shortly after that hand my wife was seated directly to my right. My
> > luck went south and I mucked hand after hand. Her chips dwindled and I
> > reminded her that she had to pick two and push.
>
> This is very nearly crossing the line of softplaying.
>
> > She was being contrary and was anted out of the tournament.
>
> Some people simply cannot fathom putting all their money into the pot with
> a weak hand.
>
> > In fact, in one case, I told her she had to push when she was the big
> > blind. Not thinking, she said out loud that she wouldn't push if she
> > didn't have anything. Sure enough, the guy immediately to me left
> > raised her blind. She folded and that about sealed it for her.
>
> Ok, now you really did cross the line.
>
> > She left 12th out of 77 players.
> >
> > When she left I started getting cards again. I got Q-10s and raised
> > three times the blind. It was folded to me. Again, I got Q-10 and
> > raised, again it was folded to me.
> >
> > The top five players were getting paid and finally we were down to the
> > final table. The average stack was about $50,000. The short stack
> > (God bless him) asked for a split count. Nobody agreed and his $1000
> > went in the next hand.
> >
> > I was in the big blind, the blinds being 1000-2000 and the guy to my
> > left put in his last 1000. It was folded around to the next-to-last
> > shortie and he put in his last 4000.
> >
> > So, it's 2000 more to me with the chance to knock two players out. I
> > look down and see... 7-2o. I laughed and put in the 2000. One other
> > player started to goad me for playing 7-2 but the chip leader said I
> > pretty much had to since two players were facing elimination.
>
> True enough, but at least nobody had to advise youduring the play of the
> hand.
>
> > I didn't hit, but the next-to-last guy did. Soon enough the bubble
> > burst and we were down to five. The chip leader had about $60K, I had
> > about $45K. The blinds are now at 2000-4000. The chip leader is in
> > the SB, the BB player was being aggressive having bet 30K the last
> > hand. I look down at pocket 3s and limp in.
> >
> > The flop comes 3-K-2. I hit my set. The chip leader checked and the
> > BB bet 30K again. I pushed. The chip leader anguished over whether to
> > call. He decided to lay down and the BB called for 15K more. He
> > flipped over K-10. I showed my set and he called for another K.
> > Everyone laugh and chided him saying a K wouldn't help. My stomach
> > turned as a K hit the turn. The guy to my right said to relax, I had a
> > full house. The river was a 2 and my 3-3-3-K-K lost to his K-K-K-2-2.
> >
> > I'm still cursing the poker gods.
> >
> > All in all it was a good trip. The people are all friendly. Had there
> > been more tourists we might have won more money, but both my wife and I
> > came away from the shark tank with a little profit and I can say that I
> > placed 5th in the biggest poker tournament in Lake Tahoe held that week.
>
> Good report, good read.
>
> Fell
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