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Date: 02 Dec 2006 18:48:23
From: brewmaster
Subject: How retarded am I (BAHH)
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So apparently I was actually a favorite. I've been trying the big bet
approach, and it worked this time. Bad play or no??? I called preflop in
late position with the suited connector for pot odds like all the pros say
to. Or is this just one of those that will play out this way no matter
what?
http://twodimes.net/h/?z=2216085
pokenum -h ad as - 7d 8d -- 7c 4d 6d
Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing 7c 6d 4d
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As Ad 445 44.95 536 54.14 9 0.91 0.454
8d 7d 536 54.14 445 44.95 9 0.91 0.546
Full Tilt Poker Game #1343317025: Table Spruce Fern - $2/$4 - No Limit
Hold'em - 21:42:09 ET - 2006/12/02
Seat 1: ibgolfn ($211.80)
Seat 2: iamthetruth1003 ($136.50)
Seat 3: wegaanwinnen ($94)
Seat 4: spdracr307 ($0), is sitting out
Seat 5: brewcam ($332.10)
Seat 6: DocYarosh ($488.35)
Seat 7: JohnGa ($143.85)
Seat 8: bluffmanxx ($499)
Seat 9: CoachS111 ($112.40)
DocYarosh posts the small blind of $2
JohnGa posts the big blind of $4
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to brewcam [7d 8d]
bluffmanxx folds
spdracr307 stands up
CoachS111 calls $4
ibgolfn folds
iamthetruth1003 raises to $8
wegaanwinnen calls $8
brewcam calls $8
Stylistic adds $400
DocYarosh raises to $20
JohnGa folds
CoachS111 folds
iamthetruth1003 calls $12
wegaanwinnen calls $12
brewcam calls $12
*** FLOP *** [7c 4d 6d]
DocYarosh bets $40
iamthetruth1003 folds
wegaanwinnen folds
brewcam raises to $312.10, and is all in
DocYarosh calls $272.10
brewcam shows [7d 8d]
DocYarosh shows [Ad As]
*** TURN *** [7c 4d 6d] [6c]
*** RIVER *** [7c 4d 6d 6c] [7h]
brewcam shows a full house, Sevens full of Sixes
DocYarosh shows two pair, Aces and Sevens
brewcam wins the pot ($709.20) with a full house, Sevens full of Sixes
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $712.20
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Date: 02 Dec 2006 22:45:29
From: ACS
Subject: Re: How retarded am I (BAHH)
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Why would you ever play call a raise, and a (small) reraise with 8d7d if
you're not ready to push on that flop?
On Dec 2 2006 10:48 PM, brewmaster wrote:
> So apparently I was actually a favorite. I've been trying the big bet
> approach, and it worked this time. Bad play or no??? I called preflop in
> late position with the suited connector for pot odds like all the pros say
> to. Or is this just one of those that will play out this way no matter
> what?
>
> http://twodimes.net/h/?z=2216085
> pokenum -h ad as - 7d 8d -- 7c 4d 6d
> Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing 7c 6d 4d
> cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
> As Ad 445 44.95 536 54.14 9 0.91 0.454
> 8d 7d 536 54.14 445 44.95 9 0.91 0.546
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> Full Tilt Poker Game #1343317025: Table Spruce Fern - $2/$4 - No Limit
> Hold'em - 21:42:09 ET - 2006/12/02
> Seat 1: ibgolfn ($211.80)
> Seat 2: iamthetruth1003 ($136.50)
> Seat 3: wegaanwinnen ($94)
> Seat 4: spdracr307 ($0), is sitting out
> Seat 5: brewcam ($332.10)
> Seat 6: DocYarosh ($488.35)
> Seat 7: JohnGa ($143.85)
> Seat 8: bluffmanxx ($499)
> Seat 9: CoachS111 ($112.40)
> DocYarosh posts the small blind of $2
> JohnGa posts the big blind of $4
> The button is in seat #5
> *** HOLE CARDS ***
> Dealt to brewcam [7d 8d]
> bluffmanxx folds
> spdracr307 stands up
> CoachS111 calls $4
> ibgolfn folds
> iamthetruth1003 raises to $8
> wegaanwinnen calls $8
> brewcam calls $8
> Stylistic adds $400
> DocYarosh raises to $20
> JohnGa folds
> CoachS111 folds
> iamthetruth1003 calls $12
> wegaanwinnen calls $12
> brewcam calls $12
> *** FLOP *** [7c 4d 6d]
> DocYarosh bets $40
> iamthetruth1003 folds
> wegaanwinnen folds
> brewcam raises to $312.10, and is all in
> DocYarosh calls $272.10
> brewcam shows [7d 8d]
> DocYarosh shows [Ad As]
> *** TURN *** [7c 4d 6d] [6c]
> *** RIVER *** [7c 4d 6d 6c] [7h]
> brewcam shows a full house, Sevens full of Sixes
> DocYarosh shows two pair, Aces and Sevens
> brewcam wins the pot ($709.20) with a full house, Sevens full of Sixes
> *** SUMMARY ***
> Total pot $712.20
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Date: 03 Dec
From: Nick Wool
Subject: Re: How retarded am I (BAHH)
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On Dec 3 2006 2:48 AM, brewmaster wrote:
> So apparently I was actually a favorite. I've been trying the big bet
> approach, and it worked this time. Bad play or no??? I called preflop in
> late position with the suited connector for pot odds like all the pros say
> to. Or is this just one of those that will play out this way no matter
> what?
>
> http://twodimes.net/h/?z=2216085
> pokenum -h ad as - 7d 8d -- 7c 4d 6d
> Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing 7c 6d 4d
> cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
> As Ad 445 44.95 536 54.14 9 0.91 0.454
> 8d 7d 536 54.14 445 44.95 9 0.91 0.546
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> Full Tilt Poker Game #1343317025: Table Spruce Fern - $2/$4 - No Limit
> Hold'em - 21:42:09 ET - 2006/12/02
> Seat 1: ibgolfn ($211.80)
> Seat 2: iamthetruth1003 ($136.50)
> Seat 3: wegaanwinnen ($94)
> Seat 4: spdracr307 ($0), is sitting out
> Seat 5: brewcam ($332.10)
> Seat 6: DocYarosh ($488.35)
> Seat 7: JohnGa ($143.85)
> Seat 8: bluffmanxx ($499)
> Seat 9: CoachS111 ($112.40)
> DocYarosh posts the small blind of $2
> JohnGa posts the big blind of $4
> The button is in seat #5
> *** HOLE CARDS ***
> Dealt to brewcam [7d 8d]
> bluffmanxx folds
> spdracr307 stands up
> CoachS111 calls $4
> ibgolfn folds
> iamthetruth1003 raises to $8
> wegaanwinnen calls $8
> brewcam calls $8
> Stylistic adds $400
> DocYarosh raises to $20
Here is where you got lucky. Am I missing something, or are they really that
stpuid in 2/4? AA in the SB, action before it got to him: a limper in EP, a
min raise from EP/MP, 2 other callers in LP, so $32 plus 6 in the blinds makes
it $38 in the pot, and he chooses to raise to $20 with aces when out of
position?
Your luck had nothing to do with the way the cards fell, but everything to do
with some idiot thinking aces cannot be beaten, and invited you all into the pot
to crack it and stack him cheaply.
Surely any sane player would have at least pot it preflop, hoping the EP limper
or the min raiser had a big hand and stack off. Even if they didnt, could you
have called a pot re-raise? I very much doubt it, so you would not have had a
chance to see the flop and get lucky.
The answer is the retarded one was sittig in the SB, both for pricing people
into the pot cheap(ish)ly, and going to war on such a flop after not defining
hands properly when he had a chance to do so preflop.
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Date: 04 Dec 2006 01:31:33
From: ben carr
Subject: Re: How retarded am I (BAHH)
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You arent special olympics retarded, more like being in the "slow" class
retarded!
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Date: 02 Dec 2006 19:59:19
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: How retarded am I (BAHH)
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8.85/10
Morphy
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Date: 02 Dec 2006 20:01:30
From: brewmaster
Subject: Re: How retarded am I (BAHH)
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On Dec 2 2006 7:59 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:
> 8.85/10
Dam, was hoping for 9+.
>
> Morphy
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Date: 02 Dec 2006 20:02:25
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: How retarded am I (BAHH)
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> Dam, was hoping for 9+.
You weren't holding QQ.
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Date: 02 Dec 2006 22:33:07
From: A Man Beaten by Jacks
Subject: Re: How retarded am I (BAHH)
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On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 18:48:23 -0800, "brewmaster" <brewmaster@brewcam.com > wrote:
>So apparently I was actually a favorite. I've been trying the big bet
>approach, and it worked this time. Bad play or no??? I called preflop in
>late position with the suited connector for pot odds like all the pros say
>to. Or is this just one of those that will play out this way no matter
>what?
>http://twodimes.net/h/?z=2216085
>pokenum -h ad as - 7d 8d -- 7c 4d 6d
>Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing 7c 6d 4d
>cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
>As Ad 445 44.95 536 54.14 9 0.91 0.454
>8d 7d 536 54.14 445 44.95 9 0.91 0.546
I like the result.
>Full Tilt Poker Game #1343317025: Table Spruce Fern - $2/$4 - No Limit
>Hold'em - 21:42:09 ET - 2006/12/02
>Seat 1: ibgolfn ($211.80)
>Seat 2: iamthetruth1003 ($136.50)
>Seat 3: wegaanwinnen ($94)
>Seat 4: spdracr307 ($0), is sitting out
>Seat 5: brewcam ($332.10)
>Seat 6: DocYarosh ($488.35)
>Seat 7: JohnGa ($143.85)
>Seat 8: bluffmanxx ($499)
>Seat 9: CoachS111 ($112.40)
>DocYarosh posts the small blind of $2
>JohnGa posts the big blind of $4
>The button is in seat #5
>*** HOLE CARDS ***
>Dealt to brewcam [7d 8d]
>bluffmanxx folds
>spdracr307 stands up
>CoachS111 calls $4
>ibgolfn folds
>iamthetruth1003 raises to $8
>wegaanwinnen calls $8
>brewcam calls $8
This is a nothing raise. The goofy minraise kind of puts me off, but
I'm on the button. My only real concern is that the limper reraises
or one of the blinds wakes up with a hand.
>Stylistic adds $400
>DocYarosh raises to $20
Whoops. That probably happened. Unless this guy is particularly
addicted to the "squeeze play," he probably has a hand. I speculatively
put him on a big pair. I wouldn't have called if I knew this was going
to happen, but since it has, I have to play. And my call closes out
the action, forcing the issue if I was thinking of disregarding the pot
odds and implied odds and getting out of this dangerous situation.
>JohnGa folds
>CoachS111 folds
>iamthetruth1003 calls $12
>wegaanwinnen calls $12
>brewcam calls $12
>*** FLOP *** [7c 4d 6d]
Well, there's my flop. I'm going apeshit unless given
a hell of a reason not to.
>DocYarosh bets $40
>iamthetruth1003 folds
>wegaanwinnen folds
And this isn't it. I'm all in! And I bet I'm a favorite to his
probable big pair.
>brewcam raises to $312.10, and is all in
>DocYarosh calls $272.10
>brewcam shows [7d 8d]
>DocYarosh shows [Ad As]
>*** TURN *** [7c 4d 6d] [6c]
>*** RIVER *** [7c 4d 6d 6c] [7h]
>brewcam shows a full house, Sevens full of Sixes
>DocYarosh shows two pair, Aces and Sevens
>brewcam wins the pot ($709.20) with a full house, Sevens full of Sixes
>*** SUMMARY ***
>Total pot $712.20
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Date: 03 Dec
From: arlo payne
Subject: Re: How retarded am I (BAHH)
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On Dec 2 2006 7:48 PM, brewmaster wrote:
> So apparently I was actually a favorite. I've been trying the big bet
> approach, and it worked this time. Bad play or no??? I called preflop in
> late position with the suited connector for pot odds like all the pros say
> to. Or is this just one of those that will play out this way no matter
> what?
Well if it would of been on pokerstars you could of added 10% +ev before the
river LOL
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Date: 02 Dec 2006 19:18:20
From: thenutlow
Subject: Re: How retarded am I (BAHH)
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brewmaster wrote:
> So apparently I was actually a favorite. I've been trying the big bet
> approach, and it worked this time. Bad play or no??? I called preflop in
> late position with the suited connector for pot odds like all the pros say
> to. Or is this just one of those that will play out this way no matter
> what?
>
> http://twodimes.net/h/?z=2216085
> pokenum -h ad as - 7d 8d -- 7c 4d 6d
> Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing 7c 6d 4d
> cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
> As Ad 445 44.95 536 54.14 9 0.91 0.454
> 8d 7d 536 54.14 445 44.95 9 0.91 0.546
>
> Full Tilt Poker Game #1343317025: Table Spruce Fern - $2/$4 - No Limit
> Hold'em - 21:42:09 ET - 2006/12/02
> Seat 1: ibgolfn ($211.80)
> Seat 2: iamthetruth1003 ($136.50)
> Seat 3: wegaanwinnen ($94)
> Seat 4: spdracr307 ($0), is sitting out
> Seat 5: brewcam ($332.10)
> Seat 6: DocYarosh ($488.35)
> Seat 7: JohnGa ($143.85)
> Seat 8: bluffmanxx ($499)
> Seat 9: CoachS111 ($112.40)
> DocYarosh posts the small blind of $2
> JohnGa posts the big blind of $4
> The button is in seat #5
> *** HOLE CARDS ***
> Dealt to brewcam [7d 8d]
> bluffmanxx folds
> spdracr307 stands up
> CoachS111 calls $4
> ibgolfn folds
> iamthetruth1003 raises to $8
> wegaanwinnen calls $8
> brewcam calls $8
> Stylistic adds $400
> DocYarosh raises to $20
> JohnGa folds
> CoachS111 folds
> iamthetruth1003 calls $12
> wegaanwinnen calls $12
> brewcam calls $12
> *** FLOP *** [7c 4d 6d]
> DocYarosh bets $40
> iamthetruth1003 folds
> wegaanwinnen folds
> brewcam raises to $312.10, and is all in
> DocYarosh calls $272.10
> brewcam shows [7d 8d]
> DocYarosh shows [Ad As]
> *** TURN *** [7c 4d 6d] [6c]
> *** RIVER *** [7c 4d 6d 6c] [7h]
> brewcam shows a full house, Sevens full of Sixes
> DocYarosh shows two pair, Aces and Sevens
> brewcam wins the pot ($709.20) with a full house, Sevens full of Sixes
> *** SUMMARY ***
> Total pot $712.20
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Date: 02 Dec 2006 19:49:43
From: brewmaster
Subject: Re: How retarded am I (BAHH)
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On Dec 2 2006 7:18 PM, thenutlow wrote:
> brewmaster wrote:
> > So apparently I was actually a favorite. I've been trying the big bet
> > approach, and it worked this time. Bad play or no??? I called preflop in
> > late position with the suited connector for pot odds like all the pros say
> > to. Or is this just one of those that will play out this way no matter
> > what?
> >
> > http://twodimes.net/h/?z=2216085
> > pokenum -h ad as - 7d 8d -- 7c 4d 6d
> > Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing 7c 6d 4d
> > cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
> > As Ad 445 44.95 536 54.14 9 0.91 0.454
> > 8d 7d 536 54.14 445 44.95 9 0.91 0.546
> >
> > Full Tilt Poker Game #1343317025: Table Spruce Fern - $2/$4 - No Limit
> > Hold'em - 21:42:09 ET - 2006/12/02
> > Seat 1: ibgolfn ($211.80)
> > Seat 2: iamthetruth1003 ($136.50)
> > Seat 3: wegaanwinnen ($94)
> > Seat 4: spdracr307 ($0), is sitting out
> > Seat 5: brewcam ($332.10)
> > Seat 6: DocYarosh ($488.35)
> > Seat 7: JohnGa ($143.85)
> > Seat 8: bluffmanxx ($499)
> > Seat 9: CoachS111 ($112.40)
> > DocYarosh posts the small blind of $2
> > JohnGa posts the big blind of $4
> > The button is in seat #5
> > *** HOLE CARDS ***
> > Dealt to brewcam [7d 8d]
> > bluffmanxx folds
> > spdracr307 stands up
> > CoachS111 calls $4
> > ibgolfn folds
> > iamthetruth1003 raises to $8
> > wegaanwinnen calls $8
> > brewcam calls $8
> > Stylistic adds $400
> > DocYarosh raises to $20
> > JohnGa folds
> > CoachS111 folds
> > iamthetruth1003 calls $12
> > wegaanwinnen calls $12
> > brewcam calls $12
> > *** FLOP *** [7c 4d 6d]
> > DocYarosh bets $40
> > iamthetruth1003 folds
> > wegaanwinnen folds
> > brewcam raises to $312.10, and is all in
> > DocYarosh calls $272.10
> > brewcam shows [7d 8d]
> > DocYarosh shows [Ad As]
> > *** TURN *** [7c 4d 6d] [6c]
> > *** RIVER *** [7c 4d 6d 6c] [7h]
> > brewcam shows a full house, Sevens full of Sixes
> > DocYarosh shows two pair, Aces and Sevens
> > brewcam wins the pot ($709.20) with a full house, Sevens full of Sixes
> > *** SUMMARY ***
> > Total pot $712.20
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Date: 02 Dec 2006 19:02:03
From: Zidane Valor
Subject: Re: How retarded am I (BAHH)
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> Full Tilt Poker Game #1343317025: Table Spruce Fern - $2/$4 - No Limit
> Hold'em - 21:42:09 ET - 2006/12/02
> Seat 1: ibgolfn ($211.80)
> Seat 2: iamthetruth1003 ($136.50)
> Seat 3: wegaanwinnen ($94)
> Seat 4: spdracr307 ($0), is sitting out
> Seat 5: brewcam ($332.10)
> Seat 6: DocYarosh ($488.35)
> Seat 7: JohnGa ($143.85)
> Seat 8: bluffmanxx ($499)
> Seat 9: CoachS111 ($112.40)
> DocYarosh posts the small blind of $2
> JohnGa posts the big blind of $4
> The button is in seat #5
> *** HOLE CARDS ***
> Dealt to brewcam [7d 8d]
> bluffmanxx folds
> spdracr307 stands up
> CoachS111 calls $4
> ibgolfn folds
> iamthetruth1003 raises to $8
> wegaanwinnen calls $8
> brewcam calls $8
> Stylistic adds $400
> DocYarosh raises to $20
> JohnGa folds
> CoachS111 folds
> iamthetruth1003 calls $12
> wegaanwinnen calls $12
> brewcam calls $12
Looks good here.
> *** FLOP *** [7c 4d 6d]
> DocYarosh bets $40
> iamthetruth1003 folds
> wegaanwinnen folds
> brewcam raises to $312.10, and is all in
How can you push with top pair, a gut shot straight draw, a flush draw AND
a gut shot straight flush draw? What kind of fish play is this?
Actually, it is the correct play. Even if you put him on an over pair,
like you found out in your analysis, you are a favorite. So push here and
you might get fold equity too if he puts you on a set.
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