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Date: 20 Dec 2006 10:58:38
From: FaceDownAcesUp
Subject: How many times can I be riverstarred?
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Seriously, I suck donks in on the flop and turn and then they come back
from the dead and river me. I know I'm golden all the way up until the
river too, that's the worst part. I build this big beautiful pot and
I'm all set up to make a brillant value bet when *WHAM*, all of a
sudden I got some clown repopping or shoving on me. I anaylze the hand
and come to the conclusion there is no way they have me beat unless
they rivered a set or 2 pair on me. But that seems so unlikely and
there is already so much money in the pot. Then I wind up calling and
they show me some retarded hand that was crushed all the way until 5th
street.
Is there anyway to not go broke when a manaic insists on playing a big
pot with top pair no kicker or when a donk refuses to lay down his
flush draw??
Put this maniac on J10. When she made her weak bet on the turn I knew I
was solid as a rock and A10 was the goods. I decided to get some more
value from this calling station by milking on the turn. Queen fucking
ten. Gimme a break please. Just one time I want a break.
Did I play this hand poorly? No, I didn't.
Table '38372338 3' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: misst74 (1420 in chips)
Seat 2: KIMOSABE (1340 in chips)
Seat 3: bluefront (1580 in chips)
Seat 4: BulletsProof (1460 in chips)
Seat 5: pltrgyst (1520 in chips)
Seat 6: MistCat (1470 in chips)
Seat 7: estebanAA (860 in chips)
Seat 8: Consarn It! (2210 in chips)
Seat 9: elg26 (1600 in chips)
bluefront: posts small blind 10
BulletsProof: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to BulletsProof [Td Ad]
pltrgyst: folds
MistCat: folds
estebanAA: folds
Consarn It!: folds
Elvis Henry [observer] said, "psthemes made me an Elvis theme. Can't
see the
options tray though..."
elg26: calls 20
MistCat said, "especially when the table is full of fish"
misst74: calls 20
KIMOSABE: folds
bluefront: folds
MistCat said, "lol"
BulletsProof: checks
*** FLOP *** [3s Th 4s]
BulletsProof: bets 60
elg26: folds
misst74: raises 120 to 180
Elvis Henry [observer] said, "Watch out for Steve and his weak kickers.
They
hit every damned time."
BulletsProof: calls 120
*** TURN *** [3s Th 4s] [8c]
BulletsProof: checks
misst74: bets 220
BulletsProof said, "hmmmm"
BulletsProof said, "3s or 4s"
BulletsProof said, "we'll find out now"
BulletsProof: raises 260 to 480
misst74 said, "hmmmmm"
misst74 said, "3s or 4s"
misst74 said, "we'll find out now"
misst74: calls 260
*** RIVER *** [3s Th 4s 8c] [Qd]
BulletsProof: checks
misst74 said, "Hmmmmmm"
misst74: bets 740 and is all-in
BulletsProof: calls 740
*** SHOW DOWN ***
misst74: shows [Qc Ts] (two pair, Queens and Tens)
BulletsProof: shows [Td Ad] (a pair of Tens)
misst74 collected 2870 from pot
bluefront said, "oof"
misst74 said, "oh that dammed river"
estebanAA said, "nh"
Elvis Henry [observer] said, "damn"
Just bluffed this donk out of a big pot in the previous hand. I *knew*
he had a flush draw at best, and I wouldn't have been surprised if he
had absoutely nothing because I had him on tilt so bad I could tell he
was just dying to play a pot against the stallion to try and reclaim
his manhood.
3k bet on the turn and this motherfuck insta calls like he knows for
certain that an ace, diamond or two is coming. Not a even a second of
hesitiation. I pushed and I actually though that somehow he had acted
out of turn cause his chips seemed to already be in the middle.
Perfectly played by me? I think so.
Table '38460413 3' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Fryatt420 (5400 in chips)
Seat 2: A polar bear (8710 in chips)
Seat 3: richmeg (1740 in chips)
Seat 4: BMWBRAD (4355 in chips)
Seat 5: BulletsProof (3980 in chips)
Seat 6: spusahbg (3450 in chips)
Seat 7: cbncyet (4910 in chips)
Seat 8: Thunder525 (4160 in chips)
Seat 9: KavaBlue (3450 in chips)
richmeg: posts small blind 50
BMWBRAD: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to BulletsProof [8h 8d]
BulletsProof said, "who do u think ur dealing with here donk?"
BulletsProof: raises 200 to 300
spusahbg: folds
BulletsProof said, "ill rob ur weak/tight azz blind"
cbncyet: calls 300
Thunder525: folds
KavaBlue: folds
Fryatt420: folds
A polar bear: folds
richmeg: folds
BMWBRAD: calls 200
*** FLOP *** [2d 7d 3d]
BMWBRAD: checks
BulletsProof: bets 700
cbncyet: calls 700
BMWBRAD: folds
*** TURN *** [2d 7d 3d] [7h]
BulletsProof: bets 2980 and is all-in
cbncyet: calls 2980
*** RIVER *** [2d 7d 3d 7h] [Ac]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
BulletsProof: shows [8h 8d] (two pair, Eights and Sevens)
cbncyet: shows [Ad 2c] (two pair, Aces and Sevens)
cbncyet collected 8310 from pot
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 13:20:05
From: whocares
Subject: Re: How many times can I be riverstarred?
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LOL
"FaceDownAcesUp" <superbeef00@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1166641118.768725.249010@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com...
> Seriously, I suck donks in on the flop and turn and then they come back
> from the dead and river me. I know I'm golden all the way up until the
> river too, that's the worst part. I build this big beautiful pot and
> I'm all set up to make a brillant value bet when *WHAM*, all of a
> sudden I got some clown repopping or shoving on me. I anaylze the hand
> and come to the conclusion there is no way they have me beat unless
> they rivered a set or 2 pair on me. But that seems so unlikely and
> there is already so much money in the pot. Then I wind up calling and
> they show me some retarded hand that was crushed all the way until 5th
> street.
>
> Is there anyway to not go broke when a manaic insists on playing a big
> pot with top pair no kicker or when a donk refuses to lay down his
> flush draw??
>
>
>
>
> Put this maniac on J10. When she made her weak bet on the turn I knew I
> was solid as a rock and A10 was the goods. I decided to get some more
> value from this calling station by milking on the turn. Queen fucking
> ten. Gimme a break please. Just one time I want a break.
>
> Did I play this hand poorly? No, I didn't.
>
>
> Table '38372338 3' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
> Seat 1: misst74 (1420 in chips)
> Seat 2: KIMOSABE (1340 in chips)
> Seat 3: bluefront (1580 in chips)
> Seat 4: BulletsProof (1460 in chips)
> Seat 5: pltrgyst (1520 in chips)
> Seat 6: MistCat (1470 in chips)
> Seat 7: estebanAA (860 in chips)
> Seat 8: Consarn It! (2210 in chips)
> Seat 9: elg26 (1600 in chips)
> bluefront: posts small blind 10
> BulletsProof: posts big blind 20
> *** HOLE CARDS ***
> Dealt to BulletsProof [Td Ad]
> pltrgyst: folds
> MistCat: folds
> estebanAA: folds
> Consarn It!: folds
> Elvis Henry [observer] said, "psthemes made me an Elvis theme. Can't
> see the
> options tray though..."
> elg26: calls 20
> MistCat said, "especially when the table is full of fish"
> misst74: calls 20
> KIMOSABE: folds
> bluefront: folds
> MistCat said, "lol"
> BulletsProof: checks
> *** FLOP *** [3s Th 4s]
> BulletsProof: bets 60
> elg26: folds
> misst74: raises 120 to 180
> Elvis Henry [observer] said, "Watch out for Steve and his weak kickers.
> They
> hit every damned time."
> BulletsProof: calls 120
> *** TURN *** [3s Th 4s] [8c]
> BulletsProof: checks
> misst74: bets 220
> BulletsProof said, "hmmmm"
> BulletsProof said, "3s or 4s"
> BulletsProof said, "we'll find out now"
> BulletsProof: raises 260 to 480
> misst74 said, "hmmmmm"
> misst74 said, "3s or 4s"
> misst74 said, "we'll find out now"
> misst74: calls 260
> *** RIVER *** [3s Th 4s 8c] [Qd]
> BulletsProof: checks
> misst74 said, "Hmmmmmm"
> misst74: bets 740 and is all-in
> BulletsProof: calls 740
> *** SHOW DOWN ***
> misst74: shows [Qc Ts] (two pair, Queens and Tens)
> BulletsProof: shows [Td Ad] (a pair of Tens)
> misst74 collected 2870 from pot
> bluefront said, "oof"
> misst74 said, "oh that dammed river"
> estebanAA said, "nh"
> Elvis Henry [observer] said, "damn"
>
>
>
>
> Just bluffed this donk out of a big pot in the previous hand. I *knew*
> he had a flush draw at best, and I wouldn't have been surprised if he
> had absoutely nothing because I had him on tilt so bad I could tell he
> was just dying to play a pot against the stallion to try and reclaim
> his manhood.
>
> 3k bet on the turn and this motherfuck insta calls like he knows for
> certain that an ace, diamond or two is coming. Not a even a second of
> hesitiation. I pushed and I actually though that somehow he had acted
> out of turn cause his chips seemed to already be in the middle.
>
> Perfectly played by me? I think so.
>
>
>
> Table '38460413 3' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
> Seat 1: Fryatt420 (5400 in chips)
> Seat 2: A polar bear (8710 in chips)
> Seat 3: richmeg (1740 in chips)
> Seat 4: BMWBRAD (4355 in chips)
> Seat 5: BulletsProof (3980 in chips)
> Seat 6: spusahbg (3450 in chips)
> Seat 7: cbncyet (4910 in chips)
> Seat 8: Thunder525 (4160 in chips)
> Seat 9: KavaBlue (3450 in chips)
> richmeg: posts small blind 50
> BMWBRAD: posts big blind 100
> *** HOLE CARDS ***
> Dealt to BulletsProof [8h 8d]
> BulletsProof said, "who do u think ur dealing with here donk?"
> BulletsProof: raises 200 to 300
> spusahbg: folds
> BulletsProof said, "ill rob ur weak/tight azz blind"
> cbncyet: calls 300
> Thunder525: folds
> KavaBlue: folds
> Fryatt420: folds
> A polar bear: folds
> richmeg: folds
> BMWBRAD: calls 200
> *** FLOP *** [2d 7d 3d]
> BMWBRAD: checks
> BulletsProof: bets 700
> cbncyet: calls 700
> BMWBRAD: folds
> *** TURN *** [2d 7d 3d] [7h]
> BulletsProof: bets 2980 and is all-in
> cbncyet: calls 2980
> *** RIVER *** [2d 7d 3d 7h] [Ac]
> *** SHOW DOWN ***
> BulletsProof: shows [8h 8d] (two pair, Eights and Sevens)
> cbncyet: shows [Ad 2c] (two pair, Aces and Sevens)
> cbncyet collected 8310 from pot
>
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 13:25:34
From: whocares
Subject: Re: How many times can I be riverstarred?
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>>
>>
>>
>> Just bluffed this donk out of a big pot in the previous hand. I *knew*
>> he had a flush draw at best, and I wouldn't have been surprised if he
>> had absoutely nothing because I had him on tilt so bad I could tell he
>> was just dying to play a pot against the stallion to try and reclaim
>> his manhood.
>>
>> 3k bet on the turn and this motherfuck insta calls like he knows for
>> certain that an ace, diamond or two is coming. Not a even a second of
>> hesitiation. I pushed and I actually though that somehow he had acted
>> out of turn cause his chips seemed to already be in the middle.
>>
>> Perfectly played by me? I think so.
>>
>>
>>
>> Table '38460413 3' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
>> Seat 1: Fryatt420 (5400 in chips)
>> Seat 2: A polar bear (8710 in chips)
>> Seat 3: richmeg (1740 in chips)
>> Seat 4: BMWBRAD (4355 in chips)
>> Seat 5: BulletsProof (3980 in chips)
>> Seat 6: spusahbg (3450 in chips)
>> Seat 7: cbncyet (4910 in chips)
>> Seat 8: Thunder525 (4160 in chips)
>> Seat 9: KavaBlue (3450 in chips)
>> richmeg: posts small blind 50
>> BMWBRAD: posts big blind 100
>> *** HOLE CARDS ***
>> Dealt to BulletsProof [8h 8d]
>> BulletsProof said, "who do u think ur dealing with here donk?"
>> BulletsProof: raises 200 to 300
>> spusahbg: folds
>> BulletsProof said, "ill rob ur weak/tight azz blind"
>> cbncyet: calls 300
>> Thunder525: folds
>> KavaBlue: folds
>> Fryatt420: folds
>> A polar bear: folds
>> richmeg: folds
>> BMWBRAD: calls 200
>> *** FLOP *** [2d 7d 3d]
>> BMWBRAD: checks
>> BulletsProof: bets 700
>> cbncyet: calls 700
>> BMWBRAD: folds
>> *** TURN *** [2d 7d 3d] [7h]
>> BulletsProof: bets 2980 and is all-in
>> cbncyet: calls 2980
>> *** RIVER *** [2d 7d 3d 7h] [Ac]
>> *** SHOW DOWN ***
>> BulletsProof: shows [8h 8d] (two pair, Eights and Sevens)
>> cbncyet: shows [Ad 2c] (two pair, Aces and Sevens)
>> cbncyet collected 8310 from pot
>>
>
He had the nut flush draw he's not going anywhere. Why are you pushing so
many chips in on such a dangerous flop?
Guy could have allready flushed and you are giving him all your chips...I
think you are the Donk
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 20:25:28
From: Signal
Subject: Re: How many times can I be riverstarred?
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"whocares" <blowme@wackoff.net > wrote:
>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just bluffed this donk out of a big pot in the previous hand. I *knew*
>>> he had a flush draw at best, and I wouldn't have been surprised if he
>>> had absoutely nothing because I had him on tilt so bad I could tell he
>>> was just dying to play a pot against the stallion to try and reclaim
>>> his manhood.
>>>
>>> 3k bet on the turn and this motherfuck insta calls like he knows for
>>> certain that an ace, diamond or two is coming. Not a even a second of
>>> hesitiation. I pushed and I actually though that somehow he had acted
>>> out of turn cause his chips seemed to already be in the middle.
>>>
>>> Perfectly played by me? I think so.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Table '38460413 3' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
>>> Seat 1: Fryatt420 (5400 in chips)
>>> Seat 2: A polar bear (8710 in chips)
>>> Seat 3: richmeg (1740 in chips)
>>> Seat 4: BMWBRAD (4355 in chips)
>>> Seat 5: BulletsProof (3980 in chips)
>>> Seat 6: spusahbg (3450 in chips)
>>> Seat 7: cbncyet (4910 in chips)
>>> Seat 8: Thunder525 (4160 in chips)
>>> Seat 9: KavaBlue (3450 in chips)
>>> richmeg: posts small blind 50
>>> BMWBRAD: posts big blind 100
>>> *** HOLE CARDS ***
>>> Dealt to BulletsProof [8h 8d]
>>> BulletsProof said, "who do u think ur dealing with here donk?"
>>> BulletsProof: raises 200 to 300
>>> spusahbg: folds
>>> BulletsProof said, "ill rob ur weak/tight azz blind"
>>> cbncyet: calls 300
>>> Thunder525: folds
>>> KavaBlue: folds
>>> Fryatt420: folds
>>> A polar bear: folds
>>> richmeg: folds
>>> BMWBRAD: calls 200
>>> *** FLOP *** [2d 7d 3d]
>>> BMWBRAD: checks
>>> BulletsProof: bets 700
>>> cbncyet: calls 700
>>> BMWBRAD: folds
>>> *** TURN *** [2d 7d 3d] [7h]
>>> BulletsProof: bets 2980 and is all-in
>>> cbncyet: calls 2980
>>> *** RIVER *** [2d 7d 3d 7h] [Ac]
>>> *** SHOW DOWN ***
>>> BulletsProof: shows [8h 8d] (two pair, Eights and Sevens)
>>> cbncyet: shows [Ad 2c] (two pair, Aces and Sevens)
>>> cbncyet collected 8310 from pot
>>>
>>
>He had the nut flush draw he's not going anywhere. Why are you pushing so
>many chips in on such a dangerous flop?
>Guy could have allready flushed and you are giving him all your chips...I
>think you are the Donk
>
"Perfectly played by me"... LOL! The donkey made a weak play at the
flop, then pushed when the board paired with three to the flush
already out. Of course he "knew" the guy didn't have two diamonds, 7x,
22, 33, 77, 99, TT, JJ, QQ, KK, AA...
By my reckoning when the chips went in there was ~5000 in the pot
~3000 to call.. the caller had a 30% chance of hitting his outs. OK
not pot odds, but given the opportunity to shove it in this arrogant
tossers face - who wouldn't applaud the man for gambling and
outdrawing him.. har har :-)
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 21:24:13
From: FaceDownAcesUp
Subject: Re: How many times can I be riverstarred?
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A Man Beaten by Jacks wrote:
> On 20 Dec 2006 10:58:38 -0800, "FaceDownAcesUp" <superbeef00@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >Seriously, I suck
>
> First true thing you ever said.
Well played, sir. Well played.
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Date: 21 Dec 2006 00:02:52
From: A Man Beaten by Jacks
Subject: Re: How many times can I be riverstarred?
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On 20 Dec 2006 10:58:38 -0800, "FaceDownAcesUp" <superbeef00@yahoo.com > wrote:
>Seriously, I suck
First true thing you ever said.
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 22:27:04
From: sng
Subject: Re: How many times can I be riverstarred?
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Perhaps if you didn't show your bluffs, people wouldn't call you down as
much.
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 13:45:33
From:
Subject: Re: How many times can I be riverstarred?
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Not just bad beats, they are rigged. It is proven that RiverStars
brings the cheating rigged bullshit "bad" beats far far more than
probability could account for. Does this mean they are cheating?
Maybe some people don't think it is cheating to manipulate the deal in
this way but even they realize that Stars IS manipulating the deal. I
guess it is only fair to help the fish a little bit at the expense of
the sharks. After all, why should the sharks take all the money? That
would mean less rake for Stars and the bottom line is, what is good for
their bottom line is what they do, and what they do for their bottom
line is cheat the good players and help the bad players. It is a
well-established fact they are doing this. Even people who used to be
hardcore site shills have come to their senses, most of them.
Basically, it's like atheism vs religion. The Jesus freaks insist that
the sites are not rigged. The far more rational atheists realize that
the site is cheating. The only way you could stay in denial about the
cheating is through blind, unquestioning faith. Any degree of
rationality leads to the inescapable conclusion that they ARE cheating.
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Date: 20 Dec 22:08:56
From: Super Steamer
Subject: Re: How many times can I be riverstarred?
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On Dec 20 2006 1:45 PM, rgposter@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> Basically, it's like atheism vs religion. The Jesus freaks insist that
> the sites are not rigged. The far more rational atheists realize that
> the site is cheating. The only way you could stay in denial about the
> cheating is through blind, unquestioning faith. Any degree of
> rationality leads to the inescapable conclusion that they ARE cheating.
Just when I thought you couldn't be any stupider...
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 14:03:50
From: MysteriAce
Subject: Re: How many times can I be riverstarred?
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On Dec 20 2006 2:45 PM, rgposter wrote:
> Not just bad beats, they are rigged. It is proven that RiverStars
> brings the cheating rigged bullshit "bad" beats far far more than
> probability could account for. Does this mean they are cheating?
> Maybe some people don't think it is cheating to manipulate the deal in
> this way but even they realize that Stars IS manipulating the deal. I
> guess it is only fair to help the fish a little bit at the expense of
> the sharks. After all, why should the sharks take all the money? That
> would mean less rake for Stars and the bottom line is, what is good for
> their bottom line is what they do, and what they do for their bottom
> line is cheat the good players and help the bad players. It is a
> well-established fact they are doing this. Even people who used to be
> hardcore site shills have come to their senses, most of them.
>
> Basically, it's like atheism vs religion. The Jesus freaks insist that
> the sites are not rigged. The far more rational atheists realize that
> the site is cheating. The only way you could stay in denial about the
> cheating is through blind, unquestioning faith. Any degree of
> rationality leads to the inescapable conclusion that they ARE cheating.
Come on, guy! This is your moment to shine! Show us this factual proof
and make yourself a super star! We're waiting with bated breath ...
~ MysteriAce
"Ashes and diamonds
Foe and friend
We were all equal in the end"
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 22:07:31
From: Signal
Subject: Re: How many times can I be riverstarred?
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rgposter@yahoo.com wrote:
>Not just bad beats, they are rigged. It is proven that RiverStars
>brings the cheating rigged bullshit "bad" beats far far more than
>probability could account for. Does this mean they are cheating?
>Maybe some people don't think it is cheating to manipulate the deal in
>this way but even they realize that Stars IS manipulating the deal. I
>guess it is only fair to help the fish a little bit at the expense of
>the sharks. After all, why should the sharks take all the money? That
>would mean less rake for Stars and the bottom line is, what is good for
>their bottom line is what they do, and what they do for their bottom
>line is cheat the good players and help the bad players. It is a
>well-established fact they are doing this. Even people who used to be
>hardcore site shills have come to their senses, most of them.
>
>Basically, it's like atheism vs religion. The Jesus freaks insist that
>the sites are not rigged. The far more rational atheists realize that
>the site is cheating. The only way you could stay in denial about the
>cheating is through blind, unquestioning faith. Any degree of
>rationality leads to the inescapable conclusion that they ARE cheating.
Another sore loser.... lol
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 13:57:50
From: MysteriAce
Subject: Re: How many times can I be riverstarred?
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You say: "It is proven that RiverStars brings the cheating rigged
bullshit "bad" beats far far more than probability could account for."
and
"It is a well-established fact they are doing this."
Links to this evidence, please? I'd love to see it. Since you know it to
be a "well-established fact", you should have no trouble drumming up links
to a number of reputable sources with this information readily available.
Right?
~ MysteriAce
"Ashes and diamonds
Foe and friend
We were all equal in the end"
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 12:34:49
From: FaceDownAcesUp
Subject: Re: How many times can I be riverstarred?
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Signal wrote:
> "Perfectly played by me"... LOL! The donkey made a weak play at the
> flop, then pushed when the board paired with three to the flush
> already out. Of course he "knew" the guy didn't have two diamonds, 7x,
> 22, 33, 77, 99, TT, JJ, QQ, KK, AA...
>
> By my reckoning when the chips went in there was ~5000 in the pot
> ~3000 to call.. the caller had a 30% chance of hitting his outs. OK
> not pot odds, but given the opportunity to shove it in this arrogant
> tossers face - who wouldn't applaud the man for gambling and
> outdrawing him.. har har :-)
Weak play on the flop? I bet 700 into a 950 pot. That's weak? Was he
folding if I bet 250 more?
Come on, gimme a break. My bet was brilliant. It was big enough to make
it bad to chase his flush, but it was also small enough that I could
fold if the 4th diamond hit.
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 12:28:08
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: How many times can I be riverstarred?
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> Is there anyway to not go broke when a manaic insists on playing a big
> pot with top pair no kicker or when a donk refuses to lay down his
> flush draw??
Some people can't fold top pair. Some people can't fold a flush draw.
That doesn't necessarily mean you are the one making mistakes. (although
it can be argued that in the first hand the two of you were having some
super donk contest). If you get your money in as a big favorite and they
make donk calls, you should be happy.
Not sure what else to say. You're just whining about bad beats here
really.
Morphy
http://donkeymanifesto.blogspot.com
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 22:05:39
From: Signal
Subject: Re: How many times can I be riverstarred?
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"XaQ Morphy" <a1c5905@webnntp.invalid > wrote:
>> Is there anyway to not go broke when a manaic insists on playing a big
>> pot with top pair no kicker or when a donk refuses to lay down his
>> flush draw??
>
>Some people can't fold top pair. Some people can't fold a flush draw.
>That doesn't necessarily mean you are the one making mistakes. (although
>it can be argued that in the first hand the two of you were having some
>super donk contest). If you get your money in as a big favorite and they
>make donk calls, you should be happy.
>
>Not sure what else to say. You're just whining about bad beats here
>really.
The play wasn't horrible, but that sort of banter is just *begging*
for confrontation... and plenty of chuckling when you get beat. I like
to get a whole table fighting back at me.. but it's a dangerous
strategy..
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S i g n a l @ l i n e o n e . n e t
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 12:13:13
From: johnny T
Subject: Re: How many times can I be riverstarred?
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Seriously, you are never OWED a pot. It isn't your's until the river.
This happens all the time. Without the guy being able to win
*sometimes* he will never place money in the pot.
He will win pots that you never will, because you will fold.
At the end of the day you will be ahead.
Poker is alot closer than you think. 80/20 means you lose 1 out of 5 times.
Here's the gagger 2 people who are 80/20 against you doesn't mean you
have an 80% chance to win.
Those that take it in stride, who focus and play the best that they can,
are the winners.
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 12:06:36
From: FaceDownAcesUp
Subject: Re: How many times can I be riverstarred?
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whocares wrote:
> He had the nut flush draw he's not going anywhere. Why are you pushing so
> many chips in on such a dangerous flop?
> Guy could have allready flushed and you are giving him all your chips...I
> think you are the Donk
I mentioned that I beat him in the previous pot on a bluff and I knew
he was steaming. He didn't have the flush. He was calling with any 2
just to try and bust me.
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 14:35:46
From: whocares
Subject: Re: How many times can I be riverstarred?
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"FaceDownAcesUp" <superbeef00@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1166645196.244649.37570@a3g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>
> whocares wrote:
>
>> He had the nut flush draw he's not going anywhere. Why are you pushing so
>> many chips in on such a dangerous flop?
>> Guy could have allready flushed and you are giving him all your chips...I
>> think you are the Donk
>
> I mentioned that I beat him in the previous pot on a bluff and I knew
> he was steaming. He didn't have the flush. He was calling with any 2
> just to try and bust me.
>
I know i'm just kidding around.. I don't know how he makes that call..Must
of been one of those
.10 tourneys.
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Date: 20 Dec 19:49:06
From: SnoopySuited
Subject: Re: How many times can I be riverstarred?
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Perfect play both times!
Glad to see you back at the tables!
On Dec 20 2006 10:58 AM, FaceDownAcesUp wrote:
> Seriously, I suck donks in on the flop and turn and then they come back
> from the dead and river me. I know I'm golden all the way up until the
> river too, that's the worst part. I build this big beautiful pot and
> I'm all set up to make a brillant value bet when *WHAM*, all of a
> sudden I got some clown repopping or shoving on me. I anaylze the hand
> and come to the conclusion there is no way they have me beat unless
> they rivered a set or 2 pair on me. But that seems so unlikely and
> there is already so much money in the pot. Then I wind up calling and
> they show me some retarded hand that was crushed all the way until 5th
> street.
>
> Is there anyway to not go broke when a manaic insists on playing a big
> pot with top pair no kicker or when a donk refuses to lay down his
> flush draw??
>
>
>
>
> Put this maniac on J10. When she made her weak bet on the turn I knew I
> was solid as a rock and A10 was the goods. I decided to get some more
> value from this calling station by milking on the turn. Queen fucking
> ten. Gimme a break please. Just one time I want a break.
>
> Did I play this hand poorly? No, I didn't.
>
>
> Table '38372338 3' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
> Seat 1: misst74 (1420 in chips)
> Seat 2: KIMOSABE (1340 in chips)
> Seat 3: bluefront (1580 in chips)
> Seat 4: BulletsProof (1460 in chips)
> Seat 5: pltrgyst (1520 in chips)
> Seat 6: MistCat (1470 in chips)
> Seat 7: estebanAA (860 in chips)
> Seat 8: Consarn It! (2210 in chips)
> Seat 9: elg26 (1600 in chips)
> bluefront: posts small blind 10
> BulletsProof: posts big blind 20
> *** HOLE CARDS ***
> Dealt to BulletsProof [Td Ad]
> pltrgyst: folds
> MistCat: folds
> estebanAA: folds
> Consarn It!: folds
> Elvis Henry [observer] said, "psthemes made me an Elvis theme. Can't
> see the
> options tray though..."
> elg26: calls 20
> MistCat said, "especially when the table is full of fish"
> misst74: calls 20
> KIMOSABE: folds
> bluefront: folds
> MistCat said, "lol"
> BulletsProof: checks
> *** FLOP *** [3s Th 4s]
> BulletsProof: bets 60
> elg26: folds
> misst74: raises 120 to 180
> Elvis Henry [observer] said, "Watch out for Steve and his weak kickers.
> They
> hit every damned time."
> BulletsProof: calls 120
> *** TURN *** [3s Th 4s] [8c]
> BulletsProof: checks
> misst74: bets 220
> BulletsProof said, "hmmmm"
> BulletsProof said, "3s or 4s"
> BulletsProof said, "we'll find out now"
> BulletsProof: raises 260 to 480
> misst74 said, "hmmmmm"
> misst74 said, "3s or 4s"
> misst74 said, "we'll find out now"
> misst74: calls 260
> *** RIVER *** [3s Th 4s 8c] [Qd]
> BulletsProof: checks
> misst74 said, "Hmmmmmm"
> misst74: bets 740 and is all-in
> BulletsProof: calls 740
> *** SHOW DOWN ***
> misst74: shows [Qc Ts] (two pair, Queens and Tens)
> BulletsProof: shows [Td Ad] (a pair of Tens)
> misst74 collected 2870 from pot
> bluefront said, "oof"
> misst74 said, "oh that dammed river"
> estebanAA said, "nh"
> Elvis Henry [observer] said, "damn"
>
>
>
>
> Just bluffed this donk out of a big pot in the previous hand. I *knew*
> he had a flush draw at best, and I wouldn't have been surprised if he
> had absoutely nothing because I had him on tilt so bad I could tell he
> was just dying to play a pot against the stallion to try and reclaim
> his manhood.
>
> 3k bet on the turn and this motherfuck insta calls like he knows for
> certain that an ace, diamond or two is coming. Not a even a second of
> hesitiation. I pushed and I actually though that somehow he had acted
> out of turn cause his chips seemed to already be in the middle.
>
> Perfectly played by me? I think so.
>
>
>
> Table '38460413 3' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
> Seat 1: Fryatt420 (5400 in chips)
> Seat 2: A polar bear (8710 in chips)
> Seat 3: richmeg (1740 in chips)
> Seat 4: BMWBRAD (4355 in chips)
> Seat 5: BulletsProof (3980 in chips)
> Seat 6: spusahbg (3450 in chips)
> Seat 7: cbncyet (4910 in chips)
> Seat 8: Thunder525 (4160 in chips)
> Seat 9: KavaBlue (3450 in chips)
> richmeg: posts small blind 50
> BMWBRAD: posts big blind 100
> *** HOLE CARDS ***
> Dealt to BulletsProof [8h 8d]
> BulletsProof said, "who do u think ur dealing with here donk?"
> BulletsProof: raises 200 to 300
> spusahbg: folds
> BulletsProof said, "ill rob ur weak/tight azz blind"
> cbncyet: calls 300
> Thunder525: folds
> KavaBlue: folds
> Fryatt420: folds
> A polar bear: folds
> richmeg: folds
> BMWBRAD: calls 200
> *** FLOP *** [2d 7d 3d]
> BMWBRAD: checks
> BulletsProof: bets 700
> cbncyet: calls 700
> BMWBRAD: folds
> *** TURN *** [2d 7d 3d] [7h]
> BulletsProof: bets 2980 and is all-in
> cbncyet: calls 2980
> *** RIVER *** [2d 7d 3d 7h] [Ac]
> *** SHOW DOWN ***
> BulletsProof: shows [8h 8d] (two pair, Eights and Sevens)
> cbncyet: shows [Ad 2c] (two pair, Aces and Sevens)
> cbncyet collected 8310 from pot
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