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Date: 29 Nov 2006 08:52:23
From: Raider Fan
Subject: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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Fell,
Good luck to you and Tanya on your new business venture. Aside from the
convenience of being in close proximity to your partner, it seems like
Kingman isn't the best choice for opening a retail store. Did you
consider Phoenix or Tucson? I'll give you credit that you didn't pick
Yuma at least.
Retail is a tough way to make a buck. By the way, do you have any idea
how hot it gets in the summer?
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 18:39:55
From: Von Fourche
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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"Raider Fan" <raidersgotscrewed1@hotmail.com > wrote in message
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> Fell,
>
> Good luck to you and Tanya on your new business venture. Aside from the
> convenience of being in close proximity to your partner, it seems like
> Kingman isn't the best choice for opening a retail store. Did you
> consider Phoenix or Tucson? I'll give you credit that you didn't pick
> Yuma at least.
>
> Retail is a tough way to make a buck. By the way, do you have any idea
> how hot it gets in the summer?
>
So Fell is giving up his dream of making millions at the poker tables
and is now planning to make millions as the next Hot Topic or Abercrombie
and Fitch? I hope he succeeds. When he visits one of the garment
factories in China who are making his cloths he can teach the forced labor
to play Hold 'em.
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 10:55:25
From: brewmaster
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 10:39 AM, Von Fourche wrote:
> "Raider Fan" <raidersgotscrewed1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:7fq044xgnl.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > Fell,
> >
> > Good luck to you and Tanya on your new business venture. Aside from the
> > convenience of being in close proximity to your partner, it seems like
> > Kingman isn't the best choice for opening a retail store. Did you
> > consider Phoenix or Tucson? I'll give you credit that you didn't pick
> > Yuma at least.
> >
> > Retail is a tough way to make a buck. By the way, do you have any idea
> > how hot it gets in the summer?
> >
>
>
> So Fell is giving up his dream of making millions at the poker tables
> and is now planning to make millions as the next Hot Topic or Abercrombie
> and Fitch? I hope he succeeds. When he visits one of the garment
> factories in China who are making his cloths he can teach the forced labor
> to play Hold 'em.
Gambling age in China is 5?
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Date: 29 Nov 19:49:30
From: CHarrison100
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 1:39 PM, Von Fourche wrote:
> "Raider Fan" wrote in message
> news:7fq044xgnl.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > Fell,
> >
> > Good luck to you and Tanya on your new business venture. Aside from the
> > convenience of being in close proximity to your partner, it seems like
> > Kingman isn't the best choice for opening a retail store. Did you
> > consider Phoenix or Tucson? I'll give you credit that you didn't pick
> > Yuma at least.
> >
> > Retail is a tough way to make a buck. By the way, do you have any idea
> > how hot it gets in the summer?
> >
>
>
> So Fell is giving up his dream of making millions at the poker tables
> and is now planning to make millions as the next Hot Topic or Abercrombie
> and Fitch? I hope he succeeds. When he visits one of the garment
> factories in China who are making his cloths he can teach the forced labor
> to play Hold 'em.
Why would he teach his forced labor a skill that would take them away from the
work?
GL you two on your new adventure.
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 11:14:59
From: Raider Fan
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 12:39 PM, Von Fourche wrote:
>
>
> So Fell is giving up his dream of making millions at the poker tables
> and is now planning to make millions as the next Hot Topic or Abercrombie
> and Fitch? I hope he succeeds. When he visits one of the garment
> factories in China who are making his cloths he can teach the forced labor
> to play Hold 'em.
No Chinese involved. He's reselling clothes that somebody already bought
new. He just needs to leverage the average poor resident by paying them a
much needed buck or two and selling it to a different average poor
resident for ten.
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Date: 30 Nov
From: Gary Carson
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 1:14 PM, Raider Fan wrote:
> On Nov 29 2006 12:39 PM, Von Fourche wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > So Fell is giving up his dream of making millions at the poker tables
> > and is now planning to make millions as the next Hot Topic or Abercrombie
> > and Fitch? I hope he succeeds. When he visits one of the garment
> > factories in China who are making his cloths he can teach the forced labor
> > to play Hold 'em.
>
> No Chinese involved. He's reselling clothes that somebody already bought
> new. He just needs to leverage the average poor resident by paying them a
> much needed buck or two and selling it to a different average poor
> resident for ten.
It's been my exprience that low income rednecks is an excellent source of
slightly used high end clothes. This plan just sounds better and better.
Gary Carson
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 12:45:35
From: FellKnight
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 12:14 PM, Raider Fan wrote:
> On Nov 29 2006 12:39 PM, Von Fourche wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > So Fell is giving up his dream of making millions at the poker tables
> > and is now planning to make millions as the next Hot Topic or Abercrombie
> > and Fitch? I hope he succeeds. When he visits one of the garment
> > factories in China who are making his cloths he can teach the forced labor
> > to play Hold 'em.
>
> No Chinese involved. He's reselling clothes that somebody already bought
> new. He just needs to leverage the average poor resident by paying them a
> much needed buck or two and selling it to a different average poor
> resident for ten.
Ten would be heavenly, but the average price of our items is $5
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 13:16:24
From: Raider Fan
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 2:45 PM, FellKnight wrote:
> On Nov 29 2006 12:14 PM, Raider Fan wrote:
>
> > On Nov 29 2006 12:39 PM, Von Fourche wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > So Fell is giving up his dream of making millions at the poker
tables
> > > and is now planning to make millions as the next Hot Topic or
Abercrombie
> > > and Fitch? I hope he succeeds. When he visits one of the garment
> > > factories in China who are making his cloths he can teach the forced
labor
> > > to play Hold 'em.
> >
> > No Chinese involved. He's reselling clothes that somebody already bought
> > new. He just needs to leverage the average poor resident by paying them a
> > much needed buck or two and selling it to a different average poor
> > resident for ten.
>
> Ten would be heavenly, but the average price of our items is $5
>
> Fell
> --
> Website: www.fellknight.com
> Email: fellknight at gmail dot com
Well, you guys set the prices. I think you missed here. Make it ten and
then have the occassional sale. How can you have a sale when you've
already priced so low?
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Date: 29 Nov 21:41:35
From: Chris in Texas
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 3:16 PM, Raider Fan wrote:
> On Nov 29 2006 2:45 PM, FellKnight wrote:
>
> > On Nov 29 2006 12:14 PM, Raider Fan wrote:
> >
> > > On Nov 29 2006 12:39 PM, Von Fourche wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So Fell is giving up his dream of making millions at the poker
> tables
> > > > and is now planning to make millions as the next Hot Topic or
> Abercrombie
> > > > and Fitch? I hope he succeeds. When he visits one of the garment
> > > > factories in China who are making his cloths he can teach the forced
> labor
> > > > to play Hold 'em.
> > >
> > > No Chinese involved. He's reselling clothes that somebody already bought
> > > new. He just needs to leverage the average poor resident by paying them a
> > > much needed buck or two and selling it to a different average poor
> > > resident for ten.
> >
> > Ten would be heavenly, but the average price of our items is $5
> >
> > Fell
> > --
> > Website: http://www.fellknight.com/
> > Email: fellknight at gmail dot com
>
> Well, you guys set the prices. I think you missed here. Make it ten and
> then have the occassional sale. How can you have a sale when you've
> already priced so low?
I'm guessing their occassional "promotions" (which is what sales are) would be
more geared towards "look what we got in this week!" type deals.
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 13:00:08
From: Aodhan
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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> Ten would be heavenly, but the average price of our items is $5
>
I hope you aren't intending on doing this as a primary living. Average
price $5. Say your average cost per item is $2. That gives you $3 gross
profit per item. Lets say you do a monster business for Kingman (I've been
there. Unless the cacti suddenly get an urge for Hilfiger....), and sell
an average of 5 items per hour, for 10 hours a day.
That's $150 a day GROSS profit. Now add in tax, business licensing, rent,
utilities, paying your emploiyees, insurance, etc. Even being generous and
saying that only comes to $50 a day, that leaves you and MissT $100 per
day to split between you. That's $5 an hour, you can make more standing
behind the counter at a movie theater.
Not meaning to be a gloom and doom, but have you done financial
forecasting? A business plan? Calculated your break even point in
daily/weekly/monthly sales? Figured out advertising? etc,etc.
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Date: 29 Nov 23:19:47
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 2:00 PM, Aodhan wrote:
> > Ten would be heavenly, but the average price of our items is $5
> >
>
> I hope you aren't intending on doing this as a primary living. Average
> price $5. Say your average cost per item is $2. That gives you $3 gross
> profit per item. Lets say you do a monster business for Kingman (I've been
> there. Unless the cacti suddenly get an urge for Hilfiger....), and sell
> an average of 5 items per hour, for 10 hours a day.
>
> That's $150 a day GROSS profit. Now add in tax, business licensing, rent,
> utilities, paying your emploiyees, insurance, etc. Even being generous and
> saying that only comes to $50 a day, that leaves you and MissT $100 per
> day to split between you. That's $5 an hour, you can make more standing
> behind the counter at a movie theater.
>
> Not meaning to be a gloom and doom, but have you done financial
> forecasting? A business plan? Calculated your break even point in
> daily/weekly/monthly sales? Figured out advertising? etc,etc.
Yes to all of the above and Fell had it wrong, I would say that the average
price per item is $7, as the prices range from $3-$15 in our store.
However, we have figured out all the costs, break even points, sales, etc. It's
just a matter of doing it now. Selling, that is. : )
T
>
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 10:10:46
From: Aodhan
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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> Yes to all of the above and Fell had it wrong, I would say that the average
> price per item is $7, as the prices range from $3-$15 in our store.
>
> However, we have figured out all the costs, break even points, sales, etc.
It's
> just a matter of doing it now. Selling, that is. : )
Well, good luck to you. I've been in Kingman though, I just don't see you
doing enough volume to support two people and a staff/store site on $5
gross margin per sale.
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Date: 30 Nov 18:40:53
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 30 2006 11:10 AM, Aodhan wrote:
> > Yes to all of the above and Fell had it wrong, I would say that the average
> > price per item is $7, as the prices range from $3-$15 in our store.
> >
> > However, we have figured out all the costs, break even points, sales, etc.
> It's
> > just a matter of doing it now. Selling, that is. : )
>
> Well, good luck to you. I've been in Kingman though, I just don't see you
> doing enough volume to support two people and a staff/store site on $5
> gross margin per sale.
See, that's the beauty of this business. It doesn't NEED to support two people
and a staff/store. This is not the only source of income that I have, nor is it
going to be the only source of income for Jordan. There will be 2 more stores
opened in the next 6 months (The goal of the RagZ line) and we go from there.
Obviously we WANT a profit and we want it to make money, but we also have the
backup for if it happens to take several months to do so.
T
>
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 23:00:56
From: Palooka
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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"Tanya AKA MissT74" <43084303@recpoker.com > wrote in message
news:1164912053$914008@recpoker.com...
>
>
>
> On Nov 30 2006 11:10 AM, Aodhan wrote:
>
>> > Yes to all of the above and Fell had it wrong, I would say that the
>> > average
>> > price per item is $7, as the prices range from $3-$15 in our store.
>> >
>> > However, we have figured out all the costs, break even points, sales,
>> > etc.
>> It's
>> > just a matter of doing it now. Selling, that is. : )
>>
>> Well, good luck to you. I've been in Kingman though, I just don't see you
>> doing enough volume to support two people and a staff/store site on $5
>> gross margin per sale.
>
> See, that's the beauty of this business. It doesn't NEED to support two
> people
> and a staff/store. This is not the only source of income that I have, nor
> is it
> going to be the only source of income for Jordan. There will be 2 more
> stores
> opened in the next 6 months (The goal of the RagZ line) and we go from
> there.
> Obviously we WANT a profit and we want it to make money, but we also have
> the
> backup for if it happens to take several months to do so.
>
Ragz 2 Richez, then?
Seriously, good luck and may all of you be happy.
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 15:07:23
From: pokerchimp
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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This I have to agree with. The price point seems very low. I can't see
how you would make any profit.
On Nov 29 2006 4:00 PM, Aodhan wrote:
> > Ten would be heavenly, but the average price of our items is $5
> >
>
> I hope you aren't intending on doing this as a primary living. Average
> price $5. Say your average cost per item is $2. That gives you $3 gross
> profit per item. Lets say you do a monster business for Kingman (I've been
> there. Unless the cacti suddenly get an urge for Hilfiger....), and sell
> an average of 5 items per hour, for 10 hours a day.
>
> That's $150 a day GROSS profit. Now add in tax, business licensing, rent,
> utilities, paying your emploiyees, insurance, etc. Even being generous and
> saying that only comes to $50 a day, that leaves you and MissT $100 per
> day to split between you. That's $5 an hour, you can make more standing
> behind the counter at a movie theater.
>
> Not meaning to be a gloom and doom, but have you done financial
> forecasting? A business plan? Calculated your break even point in
> daily/weekly/monthly sales? Figured out advertising? etc,etc.
>
> Aodhan
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Date: 29 Nov 19:22:16
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 12:14 PM, Raider Fan wrote:
> On Nov 29 2006 12:39 PM, Von Fourche wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > So Fell is giving up his dream of making millions at the poker tables
> > and is now planning to make millions as the next Hot Topic or Abercrombie
> > and Fitch? I hope he succeeds. When he visits one of the garment
> > factories in China who are making his cloths he can teach the forced labor
> > to play Hold 'em.
>
> No Chinese involved. He's reselling clothes that somebody already bought
> new. He just needs to leverage the average poor resident by paying them a
> much needed buck or two
(cough) eBay (cough)
and selling it to a different average poor
> resident for ten.
(cough) $3-$7 (cough)
: )
T
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Date: 29 Nov 20:41:15
From: Chris Argento
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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> > No Chinese involved. He's reselling clothes that somebody already bought
> > new. He just needs to leverage the average poor resident by paying them a
> > much needed buck or two
>
> (cough) eBay (cough)
>
> and selling it to a different average poor
> > resident for ten.
>
> (cough) $3-$7 (cough)
>
> : )
>
> T
>
Ok, see, this is the part that I don't get. I'm not trying to be an asshole or
rain on your parade or anything, but there seems to be a fatal flaw in this
endeavor. Most teenagers that I know/knew or that I taught when I was a H.S.
teacher viewed clothes as a status symbol. Those who actually bought
Abercrombie and Structure and AE stuff did so because they liked the status this
conferred on them. Buying used cheapens this. Add this to the hangup some
people have about wearing clothes that others have previously worn, and this
would seem like a problem to me. In and of itself, I don't think that this
would make the store a bad business decision. Now I understand that some people
don't have the money to buy this stuff new but still want the things and would
be willing to buy it used. Why not just get it on eBay? It's probably cheaper
(I have no frame of reference when it comes to buying used clothes, but from my
experience, eBay is cheaper than going to retail stores for the same items and I
don't see why this would be any different) and has a larger inventory, probably
exponentially so.
I guess this question is more for Fell - what would compel you to move to a
different country and cash out your poker bankroll to invest in a business that
commissioned no market research surveys or drafted any business models that we
know of other than the opinions of Tanya's teenage daughter and a few of her
friends (if I'm wrong and there was actual market research done here, let me
know and I'll recant) in an economically depressed area from what I can gather
from what Tanya is saying, being owned by two people without extensive retail
experience.
My overdeveloped sense of schadenfrude makes me want to see this business fail
as it does all new businesses, but please don't take this as a personal attack
or anything, just curiousity.
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Date: 30 Nov
From: Gary Carson
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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In things where an objective value can be estimated, such as oil leases, winners
of auctions tend to overpay.
But I'm sure that auction winners who've done extensive market research on Wiki
aren't typical.
On Nov 29 2006 2:41 PM, Chris Argento wrote:
>
>
>
> > > No Chinese involved. He's reselling clothes that somebody already bought
> > > new. He just needs to leverage the average poor resident by paying them a
> > > much needed buck or two
> >
> > (cough) eBay (cough)
> >
> > and selling it to a different average poor
> > > resident for ten.
> >
> > (cough) $3-$7 (cough)
> >
> > : )
> >
> > T
> >
>
> Ok, see, this is the part that I don't get. I'm not trying to be an asshole
> or
> rain on your parade or anything, but there seems to be a fatal flaw in this
> endeavor. Most teenagers that I know/knew or that I taught when I was a H.S.
> teacher viewed clothes as a status symbol. Those who actually bought
> Abercrombie and Structure and AE stuff did so because they liked the status
> this
> conferred on them. Buying used cheapens this. Add this to the hangup some
> people have about wearing clothes that others have previously worn, and this
> would seem like a problem to me. In and of itself, I don't think that this
> would make the store a bad business decision. Now I understand that some
> people
> don't have the money to buy this stuff new but still want the things and would
> be willing to buy it used. Why not just get it on eBay? It's probably
> cheaper
> (I have no frame of reference when it comes to buying used clothes, but from
> my
> experience, eBay is cheaper than going to retail stores for the same items and
> I
> don't see why this would be any different) and has a larger inventory,
> probably
> exponentially so.
>
> I guess this question is more for Fell - what would compel you to move to a
> different country and cash out your poker bankroll to invest in a business
> that
> commissioned no market research surveys or drafted any business models that we
> know of other than the opinions of Tanya's teenage daughter and a few of her
> friends (if I'm wrong and there was actual market research done here, let me
> know and I'll recant) in an economically depressed area from what I can gather
> from what Tanya is saying, being owned by two people without extensive retail
> experience.
>
> My overdeveloped sense of schadenfrude makes me want to see this business fail
> as it does all new businesses, but please don't take this as a personal attack
> or anything, just curiousity.
>
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 14:23:08
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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> Ok, see, this is the part that I don't get. I'm not trying to be an asshole
or
> rain on your parade or anything, but there seems to be a fatal flaw in this
> endeavor. Most teenagers that I know/knew or that I taught when I was a H.S.
> teacher viewed clothes as a status symbol. Those who actually bought
> Abercrombie and Structure and AE stuff did so because they liked the status
this
> conferred on them. Buying used cheapens this. Add this to the hangup some
> people have about wearing clothes that others have previously worn, and this
> would seem like a problem to me. In and of itself, I don't think that this
> would make the store a bad business decision. Now I understand that some
people
> don't have the money to buy this stuff new but still want the things and
would
> be willing to buy it used. Why not just get it on eBay? It's probably
cheaper
> (I have no frame of reference when it comes to buying used clothes, but from
my
> experience, eBay is cheaper than going to retail stores for the same items
and I
> don't see why this would be any different) and has a larger inventory,
probably
> exponentially so.
Don't know what to quote here, so I'll quote the whole thing.
Didn't the whole 90's "grunge scene" basically start by kids buying old
60's and 70's clothes from thrift stores?
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 15:01:14
From: pokerchimp
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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Actually, it's been a cool thing to do in many circles since the 1960's
(That I can remember) and even b4
On Nov 29 2006 5:23 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:
> > Ok, see, this is the part that I don't get. I'm not trying to be an
asshole
> or
> > rain on your parade or anything, but there seems to be a fatal flaw in this
> > endeavor. Most teenagers that I know/knew or that I taught when I was
a H.S.
> > teacher viewed clothes as a status symbol. Those who actually bought
> > Abercrombie and Structure and AE stuff did so because they liked the status
> this
> > conferred on them. Buying used cheapens this. Add this to the hangup some
> > people have about wearing clothes that others have previously worn, and
this
> > would seem like a problem to me. In and of itself, I don't think that this
> > would make the store a bad business decision. Now I understand that some
> people
> > don't have the money to buy this stuff new but still want the things and
> would
> > be willing to buy it used. Why not just get it on eBay? It's probably
> cheaper
> > (I have no frame of reference when it comes to buying used clothes, but
from
> my
> > experience, eBay is cheaper than going to retail stores for the same items
> and I
> > don't see why this would be any different) and has a larger inventory,
> probably
> > exponentially so.
>
> Don't know what to quote here, so I'll quote the whole thing.
>
> Didn't the whole 90's "grunge scene" basically start by kids buying old
> 60's and 70's clothes from thrift stores?
>
> Morphy
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 14:09:24
From: pokerchimp
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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I am glad you are not trying to be an asshole, but it is clear that you
have little knowledge of the used clothes retail business. It is huge. I
live in St. Augustine, FL. Yes, it is very different demographics, but
there 5 thrift shops and 10 consignment shops and believe me they are
thriving in all age and economic groups. It is not at all uncool to be
wearing used. Some people will, and some people won't, but there is
definitely a large market.
My nephew, who is 20 and in college and the son of a prosperous doctor,
loves thrift shops and has shopped there since his early teens.
As for comparison with eBay, where I have several thousand transactions,
mostly as a seller, there are some problems with buying/selling used
clothing. First you can't really inspect the condition and have to trust
the seller. Second, it weighs a lot and is expensive to ship. Third, it
will have to be sized right with no option to try on. I have tried both
buying and selling. Not good experiences.
As for a hasty decision by Fellknight, I don't think it was that hasty.
Also Fell has his whole life ahead of him. He can afford to fuck up and
start over if it doesn't work out. Tanya already has a successful
business that is sustaining her daughter and herself. Some things you
just do for love, or the chance at it.
On Nov 29 2006 3:41 PM, Chris Argento wrote:
> > > No Chinese involved. He's reselling clothes that somebody already bought
> > > new. He just needs to leverage the average poor resident by paying them a
> > > much needed buck or two
> >
> > (cough) eBay (cough)
> >
> > and selling it to a different average poor
> > > resident for ten.
> >
> > (cough) $3-$7 (cough)
> >
> > : )
> >
> > T
> >
>
> Ok, see, this is the part that I don't get. I'm not trying to be an asshole
or
> rain on your parade or anything, but there seems to be a fatal flaw in this
> endeavor. Most teenagers that I know/knew or that I taught when I was a H.S.
> teacher viewed clothes as a status symbol. Those who actually bought
> Abercrombie and Structure and AE stuff did so because they liked the status
this
> conferred on them. Buying used cheapens this. Add this to the hangup some
> people have about wearing clothes that others have previously worn, and this
> would seem like a problem to me. In and of itself, I don't think that this
> would make the store a bad business decision. Now I understand that some
people
> don't have the money to buy this stuff new but still want the things and
would
> be willing to buy it used. Why not just get it on eBay? It's probably
cheaper
> (I have no frame of reference when it comes to buying used clothes, but from
my
> experience, eBay is cheaper than going to retail stores for the same items
and I
> don't see why this would be any different) and has a larger inventory,
probably
> exponentially so.
>
> I guess this question is more for Fell - what would compel you to move to a
> different country and cash out your poker bankroll to invest in a business
that
> commissioned no market research surveys or drafted any business models that
we
> know of other than the opinions of Tanya's teenage daughter and a few of her
> friends (if I'm wrong and there was actual market research done here, let me
> know and I'll recant) in an economically depressed area from what I can
gather
> from what Tanya is saying, being owned by two people without extensive retail
> experience.
>
> My overdeveloped sense of schadenfrude makes me want to see this business
fail
> as it does all new businesses, but please don't take this as a personal
attack
> or anything, just curiousity.
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 18:37:35
From: A Man Beaten by Jacks
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 14:09:24 -0800, "pokerchimp" <mixthing@se.rr.com > wrote:
>As for comparison with eBay, where I have several thousand transactions,
>mostly as a seller, there are some problems with buying/selling used
>clothing. First you can't really inspect the condition and have to trust
>the seller. Second, it weighs a lot and is expensive to ship. Third, it
>will have to be sized right with no option to try on. I have tried both
>buying and selling. Not good experiences.
People have told me the thing to do is buy large lots of things in the right
general size, keep what works, and sell the rest as a lot. I know people
who have put together fairly sizable wardrobes doing this. It is probably
too much of a hassle to do this to make money, though, unless you're
really good at it.
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 14:15:52
From: Raider Fan
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 4:09 PM, pokerchimp wrote:
> start over if it doesn't work out. Tanya already has a successful
> business that is sustaining her daughter and herself. Some things you
> just do for love, or the chance at it.
>
I know Jordan and Tanya personally, so I wasn't go anywhere near this
until you brought it up. The last I knew, Tanya was a married woman.
Apparently, while it's certainly none of our business, that must not be
the case at this time. When I read Fell's update on his blog, I wondered
if something might be going on there. I certainly wouldn't ask.
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Date: 30 Nov
From: Welshman
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 2:15 PM, Raider Fan wrote:
> On Nov 29 2006 4:09 PM, pokerchimp wrote:
>
>
> > start over if it doesn't work out. Tanya already has a successful
> > business that is sustaining her daughter and herself. Some things you
> > just do for love, or the chance at it.
> >
>
> I know Jordan and Tanya personally, so I wasn't go anywhere near this
> until you brought it up. The last I knew, Tanya was a married woman.
> Apparently, while it's certainly none of our business, that must not be
> the case at this time. When I read Fell's update on his blog, I wondered
> if something might be going on there. I certainly wouldn't ask.
Maybe Fell was visiting T and met a woman, who knows, who cares, sometimes you
just have to go with what feels right and take a flyer. Good luck to both of
you.
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 14:56:39
From: pokerchimp
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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note the phrase "or chance at it." UR right though. It is none of our
business and I probably should have kept my mouth shut. I guess I just
thought it was apparent.
On Nov 29 2006 5:15 PM, Raider Fan wrote:
> On Nov 29 2006 4:09 PM, pokerchimp wrote:
>
>
> > start over if it doesn't work out. Tanya already has a successful
> > business that is sustaining her daughter and herself. Some things you
> > just do for love, or the chance at it.
> >
>
> I know Jordan and Tanya personally, so I wasn't go anywhere near this
> until you brought it up. The last I knew, Tanya was a married woman.
> Apparently, while it's certainly none of our business, that must not be
> the case at this time. When I read Fell's update on his blog, I wondered
> if something might be going on there. I certainly wouldn't ask.
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Date: 29 Nov 22:27:17
From: my cousin,my gastroentero
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 4:15 PM, Raider Fan wrote:
> On Nov 29 2006 4:09 PM, pokerchimp wrote:
>
>
> > start over if it doesn't work out. Tanya already has a successful
> > business that is sustaining her daughter and herself. Some things you
> > just do for love, or the chance at it.
> >
>
> I know Jordan and Tanya personally, so I wasn't go anywhere near this
> until you brought it up. The last I knew, Tanya was a married woman.
> Apparently, while it's certainly none of our business, that must not be
> the case at this time. When I read Fell's update on his blog, I wondered
> if something might be going on there. I certainly wouldn't ask.
i think you just did.
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Date: 17 Dec 15:07:38
From: Gary Carson
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 4:09 PM, pokerchimp wrote:
Tanya already has a successful
> business that is sustaining her daughter and herself.
Are you sure about that?
Why does she need somebodies elses money to finance the store then?
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 13:18:45
From: FellKnight
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 1:41 PM, Chris Argento wrote:
> > > No Chinese involved. He's reselling clothes that somebody already bought
> > > new. He just needs to leverage the average poor resident by paying them a
> > > much needed buck or two
> >
> > (cough) eBay (cough)
> >
> > and selling it to a different average poor
> > > resident for ten.
> >
> > (cough) $3-$7 (cough)
> >
> > : )
> >
> > T
> >
>
> Ok, see, this is the part that I don't get. I'm not trying to be an asshole
or
> rain on your parade or anything, but there seems to be a fatal flaw in this
> endeavor. Most teenagers that I know/knew or that I taught when I was a H.S.
> teacher viewed clothes as a status symbol. Those who actually bought
> Abercrombie and Structure and AE stuff did so because they liked the status
this
> conferred on them. Buying used cheapens this. Add this to the hangup some
> people have about wearing clothes that others have previously worn, and this
> would seem like a problem to me. In and of itself, I don't think that this
> would make the store a bad business decision. Now I understand that some
people
> don't have the money to buy this stuff new but still want the things and
would
> be willing to buy it used. Why not just get it on eBay? It's probably
cheaper
> (I have no frame of reference when it comes to buying used clothes, but from
my
> experience, eBay is cheaper than going to retail stores for the same items
and I
> don't see why this would be any different) and has a larger inventory,
probably
> exponentially so.
>
> I guess this question is more for Fell - what would compel you to move to a
> different country and cash out your poker bankroll to invest in a business
that
> commissioned no market research surveys or drafted any business models that
we
> know of other than the opinions of Tanya's teenage daughter and a few of her
> friends (if I'm wrong and there was actual market research done here, let me
> know and I'll recant) in an economically depressed area from what I can
gather
> from what Tanya is saying, being owned by two people without extensive retail
> experience.
>
> My overdeveloped sense of schadenfrude makes me want to see this business
fail
> as it does all new businesses, but please don't take this as a personal
attack
> or anything, just curiousity.
Fair questions.
Tanya did draft up a comprehensive business plan, and while there was no
professionally completed market commissionned, Tanya did direct me to a
listing of all clothing businesses in Kingman and area, and there was
clearly nothing even close to what was proposed.
As for the eBay thing, you really have to buy clothing in bulk or else you
are paying out the nose for shipping and handling charges. Clothing is
not the best thing to buy online.
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Date: 29 Nov 20:58:57
From: my cousin,my gastroentero
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 2:41 PM, Chris Argento wrote:
>
>
>
> > > No Chinese involved. He's reselling clothes that somebody already bought
> > > new. He just needs to leverage the average poor resident by paying them a
> > > much needed buck or two
> >
> > (cough) eBay (cough)
> >
> > and selling it to a different average poor
> > > resident for ten.
> >
> > (cough) $3-$7 (cough)
> >
> > : )
> >
> > T
> >
>
> Ok, see, this is the part that I don't get. I'm not trying to be an asshole
> or
> rain on your parade or anything, but there seems to be a fatal flaw in this
> endeavor. Most teenagers that I know/knew or that I taught when I was a H.S.
> teacher viewed clothes as a status symbol. Those who actually bought
> Abercrombie and Structure and AE stuff did so because they liked the status
> this
> conferred on them. Buying used cheapens this. Add this to the hangup some
> people have about wearing clothes that others have previously worn, and this
> would seem like a problem to me. In and of itself, I don't think that this
> would make the store a bad business decision. Now I understand that some
> people
> don't have the money to buy this stuff new but still want the things and would
> be willing to buy it used. Why not just get it on eBay? It's probably
> cheaper
> (I have no frame of reference when it comes to buying used clothes, but from
> my
> experience, eBay is cheaper than going to retail stores for the same items and
> I
> don't see why this would be any different) and has a larger inventory,
> probably
> exponentially so.
>
> I guess this question is more for Fell - what would compel you to move to a
> different country and cash out your poker bankroll to invest in a business
> that
> commissioned no market research surveys or drafted any business models that we
> know of other than the opinions of Tanya's teenage daughter and a few of her
> friends (if I'm wrong and there was actual market research done here, let me
> know and I'll recant) in an economically depressed area from what I can gather
> from what Tanya is saying, being owned by two people without extensive retail
> experience.
>
> My overdeveloped sense of schadenfrude makes me want to see this business fail
> as it does all new businesses, but please don't take this as a personal attack
> or anything, just curiousity.
>
same reason the trojan war started i think.
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Date: 29 Nov 20:51:46
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 1:41 PM, Chris Argento wrote:
>
>
>
> > > No Chinese involved. He's reselling clothes that somebody already bought
> > > new. He just needs to leverage the average poor resident by paying them a
> > > much needed buck or two
> >
> > (cough) eBay (cough)
> >
> > and selling it to a different average poor
> > > resident for ten.
> >
> > (cough) $3-$7 (cough)
> >
> > : )
> >
> > T
> >
>
> Ok, see, this is the part that I don't get. I'm not trying to be an asshole
> or
> rain on your parade or anything, but there seems to be a fatal flaw in this
> endeavor. Most teenagers that I know/knew or that I taught when I was a H.S.
> teacher viewed clothes as a status symbol. Those who actually bought
> Abercrombie and Structure and AE stuff did so because they liked the status
> this
> conferred on them. Buying used cheapens this. Add this to the hangup some
> people have about wearing clothes that others have previously worn, and this
> would seem like a problem to me. In and of itself, I don't think that this
> would make the store a bad business decision. Now I understand that some
> people
> don't have the money to buy this stuff new but still want the things and would
> be willing to buy it used. Why not just get it on eBay? It's probably
> cheaper
> (I have no frame of reference when it comes to buying used clothes, but from
> my
> experience, eBay is cheaper than going to retail stores for the same items and
> I
> don't see why this would be any different) and has a larger inventory,
> probably
> exponentially so.
>
> I guess this question is more for Fell - what would compel you to move to a
> different country and cash out your poker bankroll to invest in a business
> that
> commissioned no market research surveys or drafted any business models that we
> know of other than the opinions of Tanya's teenage daughter and a few of her
> friends (if I'm wrong and there was actual market research done here, let me
> know and I'll recant) in an economically depressed area from what I can gather
> from what Tanya is saying, being owned by two people without extensive retail
> experience.
>
> My overdeveloped sense of schadenfrude makes me want to see this business fail
> as it does all new businesses, but please don't take this as a personal attack
> or anything, just curiousity.
>
There has already been several businesses that have used the same fundemental
thinking and have been huge successes. The first I can think of is "Once Upon A
Child", it started as one store and is nationwide now with franchises.
(http://www.onceuponachild.com/ ) another well known store is Buffalo Exchange,
actually geared towards college aged students, but the same concept.
The main idea is bringing the labels to the community, and letting the kids have
the ability to purchase the items they like or want, based on labels or not, at
the price they can afford. We carry both new and used, so if it's a kid of a
doctor who wants a new pair of Abercrombie jeans, but doesn't want to drive to
Vegas, then here we are. If it's a kid of a minimum wage earning parent who
would love a pair of Abercrombie jeans, but can't afford the new $80 price tag
(in Vegas) or even the new $40 price tag (at RagZ), then they can buy a used
pair at $7.
The status of wearing the designer labels, or "cute" clothes is still there,
even if they are used clothing because of the fact that the clothes don't
necessarily look used. We have been very stringent on our acceptance of clothing
items and have rejected numerous items. Hence, one of the main reasons why we're
concerned about consignment. I tend to think that if we were to accept
consigment, we would have to reject a lot of clothes that would be brought into
us, which would then tend to cause harmful feelings towards the store, thus it's
best to simply not do consignment, IMO, at this time.
As for the questions directed towards Fell, I'll leave those for him to answer.
Kingman is a booming community and is dying for stores that it doesn't already
have. Most rural communities are, which is why Sam Walton was such a huge
success. He started with the rural communities first, then went mainstream into
major cities. This may make it harder to become an "overnight" success, but the
capability is still there.
There are so many businesses that would do great here, simply because they're
NOT HERE, yet.
T
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Date: 29 Nov 20:49:17
From: my cousin,my gastroentero
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 2:41 PM, Chris Argento wrote:
>
>
>
> > > No Chinese involved. He's reselling clothes that somebody already bought
> > > new. He just needs to leverage the average poor resident by paying them a
> > > much needed buck or two
> >
> > (cough) eBay (cough)
> >
> > and selling it to a different average poor
> > > resident for ten.
> >
> > (cough) $3-$7 (cough)
> >
> > : )
> >
> > T
> >
>
> Ok, see, this is the part that I don't get. I'm not trying to be an asshole
> or
> rain on your parade or anything, but there seems to be a fatal flaw in this
> endeavor. Most teenagers that I know/knew or that I taught when I was a H.S.
> teacher viewed clothes as a status symbol. Those who actually bought
> Abercrombie and Structure and AE stuff did so because they liked the status
> this
> conferred on them. Buying used cheapens this. Add this to the hangup some
> people have about wearing clothes that others have previously worn, and this
> would seem like a problem to me. In and of itself, I don't think that this
> would make the store a bad business decision. Now I understand that some
> people
> don't have the money to buy this stuff new but still want the things and would
> be willing to buy it used. Why not just get it on eBay? It's probably
> cheaper
> (I have no frame of reference when it comes to buying used clothes, but from
> my
> experience, eBay is cheaper than going to retail stores for the same items and
> I
> don't see why this would be any different) and has a larger inventory,
> probably
> exponentially so.
>
> I guess this question is more for Fell - what would compel you to move to a
> different country and cash out your poker bankroll to invest in a business
> that
> commissioned no market research surveys or drafted any business models that we
> know of other than the opinions of Tanya's teenage daughter and a few of her
> friends (if I'm wrong and there was actual market research done here, let me
> know and I'll recant) in an economically depressed area from what I can gather
> from what Tanya is saying, being owned by two people without extensive retail
> experience.
>
> My overdeveloped sense of schadenfrude makes me want to see this business fail
> as it does all new businesses, but please don't take this as a personal attack
> or anything, just curiousity.
Sometimes you just gotta say what the fuck, make your move.
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Date: 29 Nov 18:15:09
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 9:52 AM, Raider Fan wrote:
> Fell,
>
> Good luck to you and Tanya on your new business venture. Aside from the
> convenience of being in close proximity to your partner, it seems like
> Kingman isn't the best choice for opening a retail store. Did you
> consider Phoenix or Tucson? I'll give you credit that you didn't pick
> Yuma at least.
>
> Retail is a tough way to make a buck. By the way, do you have any idea
> how hot it gets in the summer?
Retail is a bitch, but the idea I sold him on was the fact that we have so few
clothing stores out here, let alone ANY that carry designer brands (Tommy,
Abercrombie, etc) AND because it's a low income area, we're bringing them in as
resale. Cheap clothes because they're used, but nicer labels then Wal Mart.
Hopefully once the word really gets around the community, it will be a gold
mine. Especially when we open the store RagZ for KidZ and RagZ, Women's
Boutique.
T
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 10:28:53
From: Raider Fan
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 12:15 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
>
> Retail is a bitch, but the idea I sold him on was the fact that we have so
few
> clothing stores out here, let alone ANY that carry designer brands (Tommy,
> Abercrombie, etc) AND because it's a low income area, we're bringing them in
as
> resale. Cheap clothes because they're used, but nicer labels then Wal Mart.
>
> Hopefully once the word really gets around the community, it will be a gold
> mine. Especially when we open the store RagZ for KidZ and RagZ, Women's
> Boutique.
>
The good thing about the model is it's not as dependant on the Christmas
season. Actually, Christmas is probably the worst time for second-hand
clothes. Most people would hope to receive something new for a Christmas
gift. If you succeed in getting the word out, you should have a
relatively (compared to most retail clothing stores) consistent revenue
stream.
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Date: 29 Nov 18:37:40
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 11:28 AM, Raider Fan wrote:
> On Nov 29 2006 12:15 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
>
> >
> > Retail is a bitch, but the idea I sold him on was the fact that we have so
> few
> > clothing stores out here, let alone ANY that carry designer brands (Tommy,
> > Abercrombie, etc) AND because it's a low income area, we're bringing them in
> as
> > resale. Cheap clothes because they're used, but nicer labels then Wal Mart.
> >
> > Hopefully once the word really gets around the community, it will be a gold
> > mine. Especially when we open the store RagZ for KidZ and RagZ, Women's
> > Boutique.
> >
>
> The good thing about the model is it's not as dependant on the Christmas
> season. Actually, Christmas is probably the worst time for second-hand
> clothes. Most people would hope to receive something new for a Christmas
> gift. If you succeed in getting the word out, you should have a
> relatively (compared to most retail clothing stores) consistent revenue
> stream.
While normally this may be true, when you take into consideration the community
where we're at, the average median income, etc, it is a very, very poor
community. While most would "hope" to receive something new, it's not a given in
this town and in fact, would be more of the opposite.
You have to live here and know the economics of this community to truly
understand.
T
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 12:55:55
From: GambleAB
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 11:37 AM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
>
> when you take into consideration the community
> where we're at, the average median income, etc,
Wow.
"average" and "median" are two different things. The average of
something is the mean, where the median is the number that has equal
number of sums above and below it. To find the average of something, you
would take all of the sums, add them together, and divide by the number of
sums you have. To find the median of something, you would list all of the
sums from highest to lowest and take the one that is exactly in the
middle. You cannot take an average of a median.
Here is the formula to find the average median:
Median
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1
But maybe I'm incorrect, as my knowledge is soely from school learning
years ago and I have zero real world business experience. Where did you
look up the average median income of your town?
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Date: 29 Nov 21:42:50
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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My apologies for not being exact and precise, I didn't think I had to be as this
is not a college paper or thesis that I am turning into my professor.
I have lived in Kingman, Arizona for just about 5 years and am very involved in
my community. I KNOW that this is a poor community. I see it everyday,
especially in terms of medical insurance and the fact that about 60% of the
community is on AHCCCS. (That's welfare in Arizona).
Come on Aaron, give me a break.
T
On Nov 29 2006 1:55 PM, GambleAB wrote:
> On Nov 29 2006 11:37 AM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
>
>
> >
> > when you take into consideration the community
> > where we're at, the average median income, etc,
>
>
> Wow.
>
> "average" and "median" are two different things. The average of
> something is the mean, where the median is the number that has equal
> number of sums above and below it. To find the average of something, you
> would take all of the sums, add them together, and divide by the number of
> sums you have. To find the median of something, you would list all of the
> sums from highest to lowest and take the one that is exactly in the
> middle. You cannot take an average of a median.
> Here is the formula to find the average median:
>
> Median
> --------------------------
> 1
>
>
>
> But maybe I'm incorrect, as my knowledge is soely from school learning
> years ago and I have zero real world business experience. Where did you
> look up the average median income of your town?
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From: Gary Carson
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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Of course you know that being involved in a community and being an observer of a
community are pretty much two different things?
Of course you know that, you aren't stupid. Are you?
Good luck. I'm always impressed by those who think it's important to be precise
about concepts in a college term paper but it's not important to be precise when
doing marketing research used to make an investment decision. Did you go to
college?
On Nov 29 2006 3:42 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
>
> My apologies for not being exact and precise, I didn't think I had to be as
> this
> is not a college paper or thesis that I am turning into my professor.
>
> I have lived in Kingman, Arizona for just about 5 years and am very involved
> in
> my community. I KNOW that this is a poor community. I see it everyday,
> especially in terms of medical insurance and the fact that about 60% of the
> community is on AHCCCS. (That's welfare in Arizona).
>
> Come on Aaron, give me a break.
>
> T
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 29 2006 1:55 PM, GambleAB wrote:
>
> > On Nov 29 2006 11:37 AM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
> >
> >
> > >
> > > when you take into consideration the community
> > > where we're at, the average median income, etc,
> >
> >
> > Wow.
> >
> > "average" and "median" are two different things. The average of
> > something is the mean, where the median is the number that has equal
> > number of sums above and below it. To find the average of something, you
> > would take all of the sums, add them together, and divide by the number of
> > sums you have. To find the median of something, you would list all of the
> > sums from highest to lowest and take the one that is exactly in the
> > middle. You cannot take an average of a median.
> > Here is the formula to find the average median:
> >
> > Median
> > --------------------------
> > 1
> >
> >
> >
> > But maybe I'm incorrect, as my knowledge is soely from school learning
> > years ago and I have zero real world business experience. Where did you
> > look up the average median income of your town?
>
>
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Date: 30 Nov
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 6:12 PM, Gary Carson wrote:
>
> Of course you know that being involved in a community and being an observer of
> a
> community are pretty much two different things?
>
> Of course you know that, you aren't stupid. Are you?
>
> Good luck. I'm always impressed by those who think it's important to be
> precise
> about concepts in a college term paper but it's not important to be precise
> when
> doing marketing research used to make an investment decision. Did you go to
> college?
For a little bit, part time for almost 3 years, about 2 classes away from an AA
degree, if I ever needed/wanted it.
T
>
>
>
> On Nov 29 2006 3:42 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
>
> >
> > My apologies for not being exact and precise, I didn't think I had to be as
> > this
> > is not a college paper or thesis that I am turning into my professor.
> >
> > I have lived in Kingman, Arizona for just about 5 years and am very involved
> > in
> > my community. I KNOW that this is a poor community. I see it everyday,
> > especially in terms of medical insurance and the fact that about 60% of the
> > community is on AHCCCS. (That's welfare in Arizona).
> >
> > Come on Aaron, give me a break.
> >
> > T
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 29 2006 1:55 PM, GambleAB wrote:
> >
> > > On Nov 29 2006 11:37 AM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > when you take into consideration the community
> > > > where we're at, the average median income, etc,
> > >
> > >
> > > Wow.
> > >
> > > "average" and "median" are two different things. The average of
> > > something is the mean, where the median is the number that has equal
> > > number of sums above and below it. To find the average of something, you
> > > would take all of the sums, add them together, and divide by the number of
> > > sums you have. To find the median of something, you would list all of the
> > > sums from highest to lowest and take the one that is exactly in the
> > > middle. You cannot take an average of a median.
> > > Here is the formula to find the average median:
> > >
> > > Median
> > > --------------------------
> > > 1
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > But maybe I'm incorrect, as my knowledge is soely from school learning
> > > years ago and I have zero real world business experience. Where did you
> > > look up the average median income of your town?
> >
> >
> Gary Carson
> http://www.garycarson.com
>
>
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Date: 30 Nov
From: monkeyman
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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>
> For a little bit, part time for almost 3 years, about 2 classes away from an
> AA
> degree, if I ever needed/wanted it.
>
courses must be fun while trying to get an alcoholics anonymos degree. sign me
up!
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 16:08:29
From: pltrgyst
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:55:55 -0800, "GambleAB" <a1664@webnntp.invalid > wrote:
>"average" and "median" are two different things. The average of
>something is the mean, where the median is the number that has equal
>number of sums above and below it....
Mathematically, "average" is a general term, which may be used to refer to the
mean, the median, or the mode.
In common use, it generally refers to the mean.
-- Larry
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Date: 30 Nov
From: Gary Carson
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 3:08 PM, pltrgyst wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:55:55 -0800, "GambleAB" wrote:
>
> Mathematically, "average" is a general term, which may be used to refer to the
> mean, the median, or the mode.
How about geometric mean?
There are a whole lot of measures of central tendency, many more than the 3
taught in the typical sophomore methods course.
btw, what they teach in that class about mean,median, mode and skewness is
wrong.
But the word mean, when used without a modifer, has a pretty specific meaning.
Mean median just means the speaker doesn't know what they're talking about.
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 18:53:21
From: kurtissimo
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 9:08 PM, Gary Carson wrote:
> btw, what they teach in that class about mean,median, mode and skewness is
> wrong.
How so? If you don't mind elaborating, I'm curious as to what you mean by
this.
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Date: 30 Nov
From: Gary Carson
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 8:53 PM, kurtissimo wrote:
> On Nov 29 2006 9:08 PM, Gary Carson wrote:
> > btw, what they teach in that class about mean,median, mode and skewness is
> > wrong.
>
> How so? If you don't mind elaborating, I'm curious as to what you mean by
> this.
http://www.amstat.org/publications/jse/v13n2/vonhippel.html
as one example
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Date: 29 Nov 21:04:20
From: my cousin,my gastroentero
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 2:55 PM, GambleAB wrote:
> On Nov 29 2006 11:37 AM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
>
>
> >
> > when you take into consideration the community
> > where we're at, the average median income, etc,
>
>
> Wow.
>
> "average" and "median" are two different things. The average of
> something is the mean, where the median is the number that has equal
> number of sums above and below it. To find the average of something, you
> would take all of the sums, add them together, and divide by the number of
> sums you have. To find the median of something, you would list all of the
> sums from highest to lowest and take the one that is exactly in the
> middle. You cannot take an average of a median.
> Here is the formula to find the average median:
>
> Median
> --------------------------
> 1
>
>
>
> But maybe I'm incorrect, as my knowledge is soely from school learning
> years ago and I have zero real world business experience. Where did you
> look up the average median income of your town?
Hey, didn't i see you on tv!!!!
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Date: 29 Nov 19:50:52
From: my cousin,my gastroentero
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 12:37 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
>
>
>
> On Nov 29 2006 11:28 AM, Raider Fan wrote:
>
> > On Nov 29 2006 12:15 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Retail is a bitch, but the idea I sold him on was the fact that we have so
> > few
> > > clothing stores out here, let alone ANY that carry designer brands (Tommy,
> > > Abercrombie, etc) AND because it's a low income area, we're bringing them
> > > in
> > as
> > > resale. Cheap clothes because they're used, but nicer labels then Wal
> > > Mart.
> > >
> > > Hopefully once the word really gets around the community, it will be a
> > > gold
> > > mine. Especially when we open the store RagZ for KidZ and RagZ, Women's
> > > Boutique.
> > >
> >
> > The good thing about the model is it's not as dependant on the Christmas
> > season. Actually, Christmas is probably the worst time for second-hand
> > clothes. Most people would hope to receive something new for a Christmas
> > gift. If you succeed in getting the word out, you should have a
> > relatively (compared to most retail clothing stores) consistent revenue
> > stream.
>
> While normally this may be true, when you take into consideration the
> community
> where we're at, the average median income, etc, it is a very, very poor
> community. While most would "hope" to receive something new, it's not a given
> in
> this town and in fact, would be more of the opposite.
>
> You have to live here and know the economics of this community to truly
> understand.
>
> T
So where is fellknight staying, in your guest room? Bedroom?
>
>
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Date: 29 Nov 20:21:43
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 12:50 PM, my cousin,my gastroentero wrote:
>
>
> On Nov 29 2006 12:37 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 29 2006 11:28 AM, Raider Fan wrote:
> >
> > > On Nov 29 2006 12:15 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Retail is a bitch, but the idea I sold him on was the fact that we have
> > > > so
> > > few
> > > > clothing stores out here, let alone ANY that carry designer brands
> > > > (Tommy,
> > > > Abercrombie, etc) AND because it's a low income area, we're bringing
> > > > them
> > > > in
> > > as
> > > > resale. Cheap clothes because they're used, but nicer labels then Wal
> > > > Mart.
> > > >
> > > > Hopefully once the word really gets around the community, it will be a
> > > > gold
> > > > mine. Especially when we open the store RagZ for KidZ and RagZ, Women's
> > > > Boutique.
> > > >
> > >
> > > The good thing about the model is it's not as dependant on the Christmas
> > > season. Actually, Christmas is probably the worst time for second-hand
> > > clothes. Most people would hope to receive something new for a Christmas
> > > gift. If you succeed in getting the word out, you should have a
> > > relatively (compared to most retail clothing stores) consistent revenue
> > > stream.
> >
> > While normally this may be true, when you take into consideration the
> > community
> > where we're at, the average median income, etc, it is a very, very poor
> > community. While most would "hope" to receive something new, it's not a
> > given
> > in
> > this town and in fact, would be more of the opposite.
> >
> > You have to live here and know the economics of this community to truly
> > understand.
> >
> > T
>
>
> So where is fellknight staying, in your guest room? Bedroom?
He has his own place.
T
> >
> >
>
>
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Date: 29 Nov 20:24:37
From: my cousin,my gastroentero
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 2:21 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
>
>
>
> On Nov 29 2006 12:50 PM, my cousin,my gastroentero wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On Nov 29 2006 12:37 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Nov 29 2006 11:28 AM, Raider Fan wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Nov 29 2006 12:15 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Retail is a bitch, but the idea I sold him on was the fact that we
> > > > > have
> > > > > so
> > > > few
> > > > > clothing stores out here, let alone ANY that carry designer brands
> > > > > (Tommy,
> > > > > Abercrombie, etc) AND because it's a low income area, we're bringing
> > > > > them
> > > > > in
> > > > as
> > > > > resale. Cheap clothes because they're used, but nicer labels then Wal
> > > > > Mart.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hopefully once the word really gets around the community, it will be a
> > > > > gold
> > > > > mine. Especially when we open the store RagZ for KidZ and RagZ,
> > > > > Women's
> > > > > Boutique.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > The good thing about the model is it's not as dependant on the Christmas
> > > > season. Actually, Christmas is probably the worst time for second-hand
> > > > clothes. Most people would hope to receive something new for a Christmas
> > > > gift. If you succeed in getting the word out, you should have a
> > > > relatively (compared to most retail clothing stores) consistent revenue
> > > > stream.
> > >
> > > While normally this may be true, when you take into consideration the
> > > community
> > > where we're at, the average median income, etc, it is a very, very poor
> > > community. While most would "hope" to receive something new, it's not a
> > > given
> > > in
> > > this town and in fact, would be more of the opposite.
> > >
> > > You have to live here and know the economics of this community to truly
> > > understand.
> > >
> > > T
> >
> >
> > So where is fellknight staying, in your guest room? Bedroom?
>
> He has his own place.
>
> T
nice of you to clean out the garage for him. so is his bed comfy?
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Date: 29 Nov 20:42:00
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 1:24 PM, my cousin,my gastroentero wrote:
>
>
> On Nov 29 2006 2:21 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 29 2006 12:50 PM, my cousin,my gastroentero wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Nov 29 2006 12:37 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Nov 29 2006 11:28 AM, Raider Fan wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Nov 29 2006 12:15 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Retail is a bitch, but the idea I sold him on was the fact that we
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > so
> > > > > few
> > > > > > clothing stores out here, let alone ANY that carry designer brands
> > > > > > (Tommy,
> > > > > > Abercrombie, etc) AND because it's a low income area, we're bringing
> > > > > > them
> > > > > > in
> > > > > as
> > > > > > resale. Cheap clothes because they're used, but nicer labels then
> > > > > > Wal
> > > > > > Mart.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hopefully once the word really gets around the community, it will
> > > > > > be a
> > > > > > gold
> > > > > > mine. Especially when we open the store RagZ for KidZ and RagZ,
> > > > > > Women's
> > > > > > Boutique.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The good thing about the model is it's not as dependant on the
> > > > > Christmas
> > > > > season. Actually, Christmas is probably the worst time for second-hand
> > > > > clothes. Most people would hope to receive something new for a
> > > > > Christmas
> > > > > gift. If you succeed in getting the word out, you should have a
> > > > > relatively (compared to most retail clothing stores) consistent
> > > > > revenue
> > > > > stream.
> > > >
> > > > While normally this may be true, when you take into consideration the
> > > > community
> > > > where we're at, the average median income, etc, it is a very, very poor
> > > > community. While most would "hope" to receive something new, it's not a
> > > > given
> > > > in
> > > > this town and in fact, would be more of the opposite.
> > > >
> > > > You have to live here and know the economics of this community to truly
> > > > understand.
> > > >
> > > > T
> > >
> > >
> > > So where is fellknight staying, in your guest room? Bedroom?
> >
> > He has his own place.
> >
> > T
>
>
> nice of you to clean out the garage for him. so is his bed comfy?
>
Please, I barely clean my own garage. As far as his bed, you'll need to ask him,
I have no knowledge of it's "comfort".
T
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 15:04:29
From: JohnnyYooper
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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GambleAB wrote:
>
> No it isn't obvious. Did she mean average (mean) or median? How did she
> get this figure? Why would you say "average median" when you mean one or
> the other?
yes, her point was obvious.
Tanya wrote:
"While normally this may be true, when you take into consideration the
community
where we're at, the average median income, etc, it is a very, very poor
community."
whether you want to call it average, median, mean, or whatever, she
was simply saying it is a poor community.
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 14:53:09
From: JohnnyYooper
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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GambleAB wrote:
>
> No it isn't obvious. Did she mean average (mean) or median? How did she
> get this figure? Why would you say "average median" when you mean one or
> the other? These are all legitamate questions and aren't some sort of
> attack on your online friend, so why are you getting all defensive? Why
> can't she answer the question without you jumping in and yelling at people
> on her behalf?
> Although you did kind of out yourself as a know-nothing loud mouth when
> you said something about my "year and a half of college education", which
> just isn't true.
ok, Gamble. i apologize. i thought i read snideness in your answer
when apparently there was none. my bad.
and i see that i was wrong in what i thought median meant. i guess
i'm the one that needs to go back to school.
as far as the college comment, i was under the impression you
dropped out of school to play poker. if you got a degree, thats nice.
wtg.
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 13:37:44
From: WuzYoungOnceToo
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29, 3:24 pm, "JohnnyYooper" <JohnnyYoo...@gmail.com > wrote:
>
> i didnt even look at the "formula". gamble was just nitpicking when
> it was obvious what tanya meant. (and then throwing his year and a
> half of college education at her)
Ah, now I see why you're so lost here. In a previous thread you
responded to Michael Sullivan's comments about "MEDIAN" pay for people
with Bachelor's degrees:
"Michael Sullivan wrote:
> Median pay for someone with a Bachelor's degree in
> this country is arond 50k.
even 50k is a little high. here are some stats for 2006 for the 10
highest number of job offers. notice "educational services" (teachers)
at 30k.
Accounting Services $46,039
Engineering Services $49,715
Building, Developing, General Contracting $45,052
Consulting Services $47,037
Financial Services $43,950
Educational Services $30,291
Petroleum & Coal Products $53,611
Aerospace $54,410
Retail/Wholesale Trade $34,932
Transportation Equipment Mfg $51,610"
The stats you cite are for "AVERAGE" starting salary offers. (Source:
http://www.jobweb.com/SalaryInfo/06_springupdate.htm) There's a
difference.
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 13:24:24
From: JohnnyYooper
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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Raider Fan wrote:
> On Nov 29 2006 3:05 PM, JohnnyYooper wrote:
>
> >
> > oh, give it a break. you know what she meant. if bill gates lived
> > there, the median would be what, 20 billion? the question is, where did
> > you learn to be so obnoxious?
>
> Maybe you should read the formula again, or something.
i didnt even look at the "formula". gamble was just nitpicking when
it was obvious what tanya meant. (and then throwing his year and a
half of college education at her)
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 13:40:14
From: GambleAB
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 2:24 PM, JohnnyYooper wrote:
> i didnt even look at the "formula". gamble was just nitpicking when
> it was obvious what tanya meant. (and then throwing his year and a
> half of college education at her)
No it isn't obvious. Did she mean average (mean) or median? How did she
get this figure? Why would you say "average median" when you mean one or
the other? These are all legitamate questions and aren't some sort of
attack on your online friend, so why are you getting all defensive? Why
can't she answer the question without you jumping in and yelling at people
on her behalf?
Although you did kind of out yourself as a know-nothing loud mouth when
you said something about my "year and a half of college education", which
just isn't true.
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 13:45:09
From: Raider Fan
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 3:40 PM, GambleAB wrote:
> Although you did kind of out yourself as a know-nothing loud mouth when
> you said something about my "year and a half of college education", which
> just isn't true.
Not all of us know whether or not that is true, but a high percentage of
us know he outted himself with the Gates moving in and driving the median
up to $20 billion.
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Date: 29 Nov 21:47:40
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 2:40 PM, GambleAB wrote:
> On Nov 29 2006 2:24 PM, JohnnyYooper wrote:
>
>
> > i didnt even look at the "formula". gamble was just nitpicking when
> > it was obvious what tanya meant. (and then throwing his year and a
> > half of college education at her)
>
>
> No it isn't obvious. Did she mean average (mean) or median? How did she
> get this figure? Why would you say "average median" when you mean one or
> the other? These are all legitamate questions and aren't some sort of
> attack on your online friend, so why are you getting all defensive? Why
> can't she answer the question without you jumping in and yelling at people
> on her behalf?
So, basically, I just typed in the wrong words:
The median income for a household in the city was $34,086, and the median income
for a family was $41,327. Males had a median income of $32,036 versus $21,134
for females.
The /wiki/Per_capita_income for the city was $17,181. About 8.2% of families and
11.6% of the population were below the /wiki/Poverty_line, including 15.3% of
those under age 18 and 7.9% of those age 65 or over.
Source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingman,_Arizona
T
> Although you did kind of out yourself as a know-nothing loud mouth when
> you said something about my "year and a half of college education", which
> just isn't true.
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Date: 30 Nov
From: Gary Carson
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 3:47 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
>
> So, basically, I just typed in the wrong words:
Do words actually mean anything in your world?
>
> The median income for a household in the city was $34,086, and the median
> income
> for a family was $41,327.
I guess not.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 14:54:49
From: brewmaster
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 1:47 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
> On Nov 29 2006 2:40 PM, GambleAB wrote:
>
> > On Nov 29 2006 2:24 PM, JohnnyYooper wrote:
> >
> >
> > > i didnt even look at the "formula". gamble was just nitpicking when
> > > it was obvious what tanya meant. (and then throwing his year and a
> > > half of college education at her)
> >
> >
> > No it isn't obvious. Did she mean average (mean) or median? How did she
> > get this figure? Why would you say "average median" when you mean one or
> > the other? These are all legitamate questions and aren't some sort of
> > attack on your online friend, so why are you getting all defensive? Why
> > can't she answer the question without you jumping in and yelling at people
> > on her behalf?
>
> So, basically, I just typed in the wrong words:
>
> The median income for a household in the city was $34,086, and the median
income
> for a family was $41,327. Males had a median income of $32,036 versus $21,134
> for females.
>
> The /wiki/Per_capita_income for the city was $17,181. About 8.2% of families
and
> 11.6% of the population were below the /wiki/Poverty_line, including 15.3% of
> those under age 18 and 7.9% of those age 65 or over.
>
That's pretty bad. Here's my city:
The median income for a household in the city was $67,720, and the median
income for a family was $65,904. Males had a median income of $49,107
versus $32,468 for females. The per capita income for the city was
$23,290. About 3.0% of families and 4.3% of the population were below the
poverty line, including 4.3% of those under age 18 and 5.4% of those age
65 or over.
But a house costs twice what it does in Kingman, etc.
> Source:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingman,_Arizona
>
> T
>
> > Although you did kind of out yourself as a know-nothing loud mouth when
> > you said something about my "year and a half of college education", which
> > just isn't true.
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Date: 29 Nov 18:17:51
From: Chris Argento
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 1:15 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
>
>
>
> On Nov 29 2006 9:52 AM, Raider Fan wrote:
>
> > Fell,
> >
> > Good luck to you and Tanya on your new business venture. Aside from the
> > convenience of being in close proximity to your partner, it seems like
> > Kingman isn't the best choice for opening a retail store. Did you
> > consider Phoenix or Tucson? I'll give you credit that you didn't pick
> > Yuma at least.
> >
> > Retail is a tough way to make a buck. By the way, do you have any idea
> > how hot it gets in the summer?
>
> Retail is a bitch, but the idea I sold him on was the fact that we have so few
> clothing stores out here, let alone ANY that carry designer brands (Tommy,
> Abercrombie, etc) AND because it's a low income area, we're bringing them in
> as
> resale. Cheap clothes because they're used, but nicer labels then Wal Mart.
>
> Hopefully once the word really gets around the community, it will be a gold
> mine. Especially when we open the store RagZ for KidZ and RagZ, Women's
> Boutique.
>
> T
I think there's a typo. "Rags" does not have a "Z" in it anywhere.
Oh wait, I see what you did there. I guess that's your brilliant way to tap
into the Arizona youth market - incorrect spelling. It's so radical
(radiKal/RAADIKAL?) it might actually work!
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 10:31:31
From: GambleAB
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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Chris makes a good point, kind of. What market research was done before
you came up with the name? Granted I'm not exactly in tune with the
younger generation anymore, but it seems like that name is offputting.
The stores when I was a kid were fairly innocuous, like Structure or Urban
Outfitters.
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Date: 29 Nov 18:40:18
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 11:31 AM, GambleAB wrote:
> Chris makes a good point, kind of. What market research was done before
> you came up with the name?
I'm heavily involved with the community and with my daughter's school and school
aged children. I've done surveys, asked around, etc. etc and for the most part,
everyone seems to love the name, even adults (that have children). Since the
kids are my target market, I've focused more on them, but they have really loved
it and noone has seem put off by it, at least so far. : )
T
Granted I'm not exactly in tune with the
> younger generation anymore, but it seems like that name is offputting.
> The stores when I was a kid were fairly innocuous, like Structure or Urban
> Outfitters.
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Date: 30 Nov
From: Gary Carson
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 12:31 PM, GambleAB wrote:
> Chris makes a good point, kind of. What market research was done before
> you came up with the name? Granted I'm not exactly in tune with the
> younger generation anymore, but it seems like that name is offputting.
> The stores when I was a kid were fairly innocuous, like Structure or Urban
> Outfitters.
When I was a kid low income population was not considered a plus when locating a
high end retail clothing store (even a 2nd hand high end store).
But times have changed.
It's hard to argue with market research that consists of asking a 14 year old
girl starved for attention from her mother for advise.
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Date: 30 Nov
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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> It's hard to argue with market research that consists of asking a 14 year old
> girl starved for attention from her mother for advise.
>
> Gary Carson
> http://www.garycarson.com/
This may be true though, in your world, so if and when we need help with market
research, we'll come to the guy who lives in a school bus.
Or as another RGP friend put it : "It's hard to argue with someone who's sexual
frusration consists of craving after a random 14 year old."
T and Fell
>
>
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Date: 30 Nov
From: arlo payne
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 7:17 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
>
>
>
> > It's hard to argue with market research that consists of asking a 14 year
> > old
> > girl starved for attention from her mother for advise.
> >
> > Gary Carson
> > http://www.garycarson.com/
>
> This may be true though, in your world, so if and when we need help with
> market
> research, we'll come to the guy who lives in a school bus.
>
> Or as another RGP friend put it : "It's hard to argue with someone who's
> sexual
> frusration consists of craving after a random 14 year old."
>
> T and Fell
>
> >
> >
Carson is just a full blown asshole with hate for the whole world.
I can really be a butt at times but there is no way no matter how much effort I
could put forth could I be a bigger asshole than Carsons weakests day.
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 21:47:20
From: James L. Hankins
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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"Tanya AKA MissT74" <43084303@recpoker.com > wrote in message
news:1164853060$913560@recpoker.com...
>
>
>
>> It's hard to argue with market research that consists of asking a 14 year
>> old
>> girl starved for attention from her mother for advise.
>>
>> Gary Carson
>> http://www.garycarson.com/
>
> This may be true though, in your world, so if and when we need help with
> market
> research, we'll come to the guy who lives in a school bus.
>
> Or as another RGP friend put it : "It's hard to argue with someone who's
> sexual
> frusration consists of craving after a random 14 year old."
>
> T and Fell
I propse, quite modestly, that you hire Carson as a greeter in your new
store. You know, kind of like the way Wal-Mart does it, only there won't be
any of this old, granfatherly warm "hello, sir!" bullshit. The kids will
love it.
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Date: 30 Nov
From: Gary Carson
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 9:47 PM, James L. Hankins wrote:
> "Tanya AKA MissT74" <43084303@recpoker.com> wrote in message
> news:1164853060$913560@recpoker.com...
> >
> >
> >
> >> It's hard to argue with market research that consists of asking a 14 year
> >> old
> >> girl starved for attention from her mother for advise.
> >>
> >> Gary Carson
> >> http://www.garycarson.com/
> >
> > This may be true though, in your world, so if and when we need help with
> > market
> > research, we'll come to the guy who lives in a school bus.
> >
> > Or as another RGP friend put it : "It's hard to argue with someone who's
> > sexual
> > frusration consists of craving after a random 14 year old."
> >
> > T and Fell
>
>
>
>
> I propse, quite modestly, that you hire Carson as a greeter in your new
> store. You know, kind of like the way Wal-Mart does it, only there won't be
> any of this old, granfatherly warm "hello, sir!" bullshit. The kids will
> love it.
LOL
My greatgrandfather used to tie his teenage boys up to fence posts and whip them
with a bullwhip.
I just follow the family tradition.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 08:59:32
From: beerboy
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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Date: 30 Nov
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 5:55 PM, Gary Carson wrote:
>
>
>
> On Nov 29 2006 12:31 PM, GambleAB wrote:
>
> > Chris makes a good point, kind of. What market research was done before
> > you came up with the name? Granted I'm not exactly in tune with the
> > younger generation anymore, but it seems like that name is offputting.
> > The stores when I was a kid were fairly innocuous, like Structure or Urban
> > Outfitters.
>
> When I was a kid low income population was not considered a plus when locating
> a
> high end retail clothing store (even a 2nd hand high end store).
>
> But times have changed.
>
> It's hard to argue with market research that consists of asking a 14 year old
> girl starved for attention from her mother for advise.
She's hardly starved for attention, and it wasn't just her but the practically
the entire 8th grade at her school. I do volunteer time at her school, so I have
the access to them.
Thanks for trying.
T
>
> Gary Carson
> http://www.garycarson.com
>
>
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 10:27:19
From: brewmaster
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 10:17 AM, Chris Argento wrote:
> On Nov 29 2006 1:15 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 29 2006 9:52 AM, Raider Fan wrote:
> >
> > > Fell,
> > >
> > > Good luck to you and Tanya on your new business venture. Aside from the
> > > convenience of being in close proximity to your partner, it seems like
> > > Kingman isn't the best choice for opening a retail store. Did you
> > > consider Phoenix or Tucson? I'll give you credit that you didn't pick
> > > Yuma at least.
> > >
> > > Retail is a tough way to make a buck. By the way, do you have any idea
> > > how hot it gets in the summer?
> >
> > Retail is a bitch, but the idea I sold him on was the fact that we have so
few
> > clothing stores out here, let alone ANY that carry designer brands (Tommy,
> > Abercrombie, etc) AND because it's a low income area, we're bringing them
in
> > as
> > resale. Cheap clothes because they're used, but nicer labels then Wal
Mart.
> >
> > Hopefully once the word really gets around the community, it will be a gold
> > mine. Especially when we open the store RagZ for KidZ and RagZ, Women's
> > Boutique.
> >
> > T
>
> I think there's a typo. "Rags" does not have a "Z" in it anywhere.
>
> Oh wait, I see what you did there. I guess that's your brilliant way to tap
> into the Arizona youth market - incorrect spelling. It's so radical
> (radiKal/RAADIKAL?) it might actually work!
Then shouldn't it be "rAgZ 4 tEeNz"?
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Date: 29 Nov 18:25:11
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 11:17 AM, Chris Argento wrote:
>
>
>
> On Nov 29 2006 1:15 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 29 2006 9:52 AM, Raider Fan wrote:
> >
> > > Fell,
> > >
> > > Good luck to you and Tanya on your new business venture. Aside from the
> > > convenience of being in close proximity to your partner, it seems like
> > > Kingman isn't the best choice for opening a retail store. Did you
> > > consider Phoenix or Tucson? I'll give you credit that you didn't pick
> > > Yuma at least.
> > >
> > > Retail is a tough way to make a buck. By the way, do you have any idea
> > > how hot it gets in the summer?
> >
> > Retail is a bitch, but the idea I sold him on was the fact that we have so
> > few
> > clothing stores out here, let alone ANY that carry designer brands (Tommy,
> > Abercrombie, etc) AND because it's a low income area, we're bringing them in
> > as
> > resale. Cheap clothes because they're used, but nicer labels then Wal Mart.
> >
> > Hopefully once the word really gets around the community, it will be a gold
> > mine. Especially when we open the store RagZ for KidZ and RagZ, Women's
> > Boutique.
> >
> > T
>
> I think there's a typo. "Rags" does not have a "Z" in it anywhere.
>
> Oh wait, I see what you did there. I guess that's your brilliant way to tap
> into the Arizona youth market - incorrect spelling. It's so radical
> (radiKal/RAADIKAL?) it might actually work!
LOL
Hey, I thought it was cute. The 14 year old daughter thought it was cool too.
: )
T
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Date: 29 Nov 18:32:43
From: Up Front Poker
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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Tanya sounds like you will an ample suppy of PT help in the store,
I was in retail management for 25 years Train, Train, Train, write down
every thing you discuse with any employee to cover your self, and aways make
sure the delivery door is locked. It can be a fun job if you have good
employees.
On Nov 29 2006 12:25 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
>
>
>
> On Nov 29 2006 11:17 AM, Chris Argento wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 29 2006 1:15 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Nov 29 2006 9:52 AM, Raider Fan wrote:
> > >
> > > > Fell,
> > > >
> > > > Good luck to you and Tanya on your new business venture. Aside from the
> > > > convenience of being in close proximity to your partner, it seems like
> > > > Kingman isn't the best choice for opening a retail store. Did you
> > > > consider Phoenix or Tucson? I'll give you credit that you didn't pick
> > > > Yuma at least.
> > > >
> > > > Retail is a tough way to make a buck. By the way, do you have any idea
> > > > how hot it gets in the summer?
> > >
> > > Retail is a bitch, but the idea I sold him on was the fact that we have so
> > > few
> > > clothing stores out here, let alone ANY that carry designer brands (Tommy,
> > > Abercrombie, etc) AND because it's a low income area, we're bringing them
> > > in
> > > as
> > > resale. Cheap clothes because they're used, but nicer labels then Wal
> > > Mart.
> > >
> > > Hopefully once the word really gets around the community, it will be a
> > > gold
> > > mine. Especially when we open the store RagZ for KidZ and RagZ, Women's
> > > Boutique.
> > >
> > > T
> >
> > I think there's a typo. "Rags" does not have a "Z" in it anywhere.
> >
> > Oh wait, I see what you did there. I guess that's your brilliant way to tap
> > into the Arizona youth market - incorrect spelling. It's so radical
> > (radiKal/RAADIKAL?) it might actually work!
>
> LOL
>
> Hey, I thought it was cute. The 14 year old daughter thought it was cool too.
>
> : )
>
> T
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Date: 29 Nov 19:25:36
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 11:32 AM, Up Front Poker wrote:
>
> Tanya sounds like you will an ample suppy of PT help in the store,
>
> I was in retail management for 25 years Train, Train, Train, write down
> every thing you discuse with any employee to cover your self, and aways make
> sure the delivery door is locked. It can be a fun job if you have good
> employees.
I already found 3. 1 I stole from Home Depot paint dept, 1 is the store's next
door neighbor, and 1 is my mother's square dancing partner.
: )
T
>
> On Nov 29 2006 12:25 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 29 2006 11:17 AM, Chris Argento wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Nov 29 2006 1:15 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Nov 29 2006 9:52 AM, Raider Fan wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Fell,
> > > > >
> > > > > Good luck to you and Tanya on your new business venture. Aside from
> > > > > the
> > > > > convenience of being in close proximity to your partner, it seems like
> > > > > Kingman isn't the best choice for opening a retail store. Did you
> > > > > consider Phoenix or Tucson? I'll give you credit that you didn't pick
> > > > > Yuma at least.
> > > > >
> > > > > Retail is a tough way to make a buck. By the way, do you have any idea
> > > > > how hot it gets in the summer?
> > > >
> > > > Retail is a bitch, but the idea I sold him on was the fact that we have
> > > > so
> > > > few
> > > > clothing stores out here, let alone ANY that carry designer brands
> > > > (Tommy,
> > > > Abercrombie, etc) AND because it's a low income area, we're bringing
> > > > them
> > > > in
> > > > as
> > > > resale. Cheap clothes because they're used, but nicer labels then Wal
> > > > Mart.
> > > >
> > > > Hopefully once the word really gets around the community, it will be a
> > > > gold
> > > > mine. Especially when we open the store RagZ for KidZ and RagZ, Women's
> > > > Boutique.
> > > >
> > > > T
> > >
> > > I think there's a typo. "Rags" does not have a "Z" in it anywhere.
> > >
> > > Oh wait, I see what you did there. I guess that's your brilliant way to
> > > tap
> > > into the Arizona youth market - incorrect spelling. It's so radical
> > > (radiKal/RAADIKAL?) it might actually work!
> >
> > LOL
> >
> > Hey, I thought it was cute. The 14 year old daughter thought it was cool
> > too.
> >
> > : )
> >
> > T
>
>
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 14:54:30
From: pltrgyst
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Wed, 29 Nov 06 18:25:11 GMT, Tanya AKA MissT74 <43084303@recpoker.com > wrote:
>> I think there's a typo. "Rags" does not have a "Z" in it anywhere.
>>
>> Oh wait, I see what you did there. I guess that's your brilliant way to tap
>> into the Arizona youth market - incorrect spelling. It's so radical
>> (radiKal/RAADIKAL?) it might actually work!
>
>LOL
>
>Hey, I thought it was cute. The 14 year old daughter thought it was cool too.
And it makes a much stronger trademark, as well.
-- Larry
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 09:37:29
From: WuzYoungOnceToo
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29, 11:35 am, "JohnnyYooper" <JohnnyYoo...@gmail.com > wrote:
>
> "institutionalized population"? lol-what does that mean?
It means "don't pick up the soap".
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 09:36:00
From: WuzYoungOnceToo
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29, 10:52 am, "Raider Fan" <raidersgotscrew...@hotmail.com >
wrote:
>
> Fell,
>
> Good luck to you and Tanya on your new business venture. Aside from the
> convenience of being in close proximity to your partner, it seems like
> Kingman isn't the best choice for opening a retail store. Did you
> consider Phoenix or Tucson? I'll give you credit that you didn't pick
> Yuma at least.
Are you kidding? Andy Devine Days brings 'em in from all over the
world! ;-)
I met and married my wife in Kingman. Then we got out as quickly as we
could.
> Retail is a tough way to make a buck. By the way, do you have any idea
> how hot it gets in the summer?
Almost as hot an nearby Lake Havasu City, where I spent my childhood.
Think "Hell", then add 10 degrees.
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Date: 29 Nov 18:13:06
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 10:36 AM, WuzYoungOnceToo wrote:
> On Nov 29, 10:52 am, "Raider Fan"
> wrote:
> >
> > Fell,
> >
> > Good luck to you and Tanya on your new business venture. Aside from the
> > convenience of being in close proximity to your partner, it seems like
> > Kingman isn't the best choice for opening a retail store. Did you
> > consider Phoenix or Tucson? I'll give you credit that you didn't pick
> > Yuma at least.
>
> Are you kidding? Andy Devine Days brings 'em in from all over the
> world! ;-)
>
> I met and married my wife in Kingman. Then we got out as quickly as we
> could.
LOL, consider Kingman simply a stop on the way to Vegas, maybe then it sounds
better.
: )
T
>
> > Retail is a tough way to make a buck. By the way, do you have any idea
> > how hot it gets in the summer?
>
> Almost as hot an nearby Lake Havasu City, where I spent my childhood.
> Think "Hell", then add 10 degrees.
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 09:35:33
From: JohnnyYooper
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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Raider Fan wrote:
> Fell,
>
> Good luck to you and Tanya on your new business venture. Aside from the
> convenience of being in close proximity to your partner, it seems like
> Kingman isn't the best choice for opening a retail store. Did you
> consider Phoenix or Tucson? I'll give you credit that you didn't pick
> Yuma at least.
>
> Retail is a tough way to make a buck. By the way, do you have any idea
> how hot it gets in the summer?
Kingman stats:
Median house value significantly below state average.
Black race population percentage significantly below state average.
Hispanic race population percentage significantly below state average.
Median age above state average.
Foreign-born population percentage significantly below state average.
Renting percentage below state average.
Institutionalized population percentage above state average.
Percentage of population with a bachelor's degree or higher below state
average.
Population density below state average for cities.
"institutionalized population"? lol-what does that mean?
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 10:26:30
From: pokerchimp
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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Sounds likely there is a psychiatric facility located in the town.
On Nov 29 2006 12:35 PM, JohnnyYooper wrote:
> Raider Fan wrote:
> > Fell,
> >
> > Good luck to you and Tanya on your new business venture. Aside from the
> > convenience of being in close proximity to your partner, it seems like
> > Kingman isn't the best choice for opening a retail store. Did you
> > consider Phoenix or Tucson? I'll give you credit that you didn't pick
> > Yuma at least.
> >
> > Retail is a tough way to make a buck. By the way, do you have any idea
> > how hot it gets in the summer?
>
>
> Kingman stats:
> Median house value significantly below state average.
> Black race population percentage significantly below state average.
> Hispanic race population percentage significantly below state average.
> Median age above state average.
> Foreign-born population percentage significantly below state average.
> Renting percentage below state average.
> Institutionalized population percentage above state average.
> Percentage of population with a bachelor's degree or higher below state
> average.
> Population density below state average for cities.
>
> "institutionalized population"? lol-what does that mean?
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 10:13:31
From: Aodhan
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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> Institutionalized population percentage above state average.
>
> "institutionalized population"? lol-what does that mean?
Prison, dude.
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Date: 29 Nov 18:12:22
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 10:35 AM, JohnnyYooper wrote:
> Raider Fan wrote:
> > Fell,
> >
> > Good luck to you and Tanya on your new business venture. Aside from the
> > convenience of being in close proximity to your partner, it seems like
> > Kingman isn't the best choice for opening a retail store. Did you
> > consider Phoenix or Tucson? I'll give you credit that you didn't pick
> > Yuma at least.
> >
> > Retail is a tough way to make a buck. By the way, do you have any idea
> > how hot it gets in the summer?
>
>
> Kingman stats:
> Median house value significantly below state average.
> Black race population percentage significantly below state average.
> Hispanic race population percentage significantly below state average.
> Median age above state average.
> Foreign-born population percentage significantly below state average.
> Renting percentage below state average.
> Institutionalized population percentage above state average.
> Percentage of population with a bachelor's degree or higher below state
> average.
> Population density below state average for cities.
>
> "institutionalized population"? lol-what does that mean?
LOL, that means we have a prison out here.
: )
T
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 10:19:47
From: brewmaster
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 10:12 AM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
> On Nov 29 2006 10:35 AM, JohnnyYooper wrote:
>
> > Raider Fan wrote:
> > > Fell,
> > >
> > > Good luck to you and Tanya on your new business venture. Aside from the
> > > convenience of being in close proximity to your partner, it seems like
> > > Kingman isn't the best choice for opening a retail store. Did you
> > > consider Phoenix or Tucson? I'll give you credit that you didn't pick
> > > Yuma at least.
> > >
> > > Retail is a tough way to make a buck. By the way, do you have any idea
> > > how hot it gets in the summer?
> >
> >
> > Kingman stats:
> > Median house value significantly below state average.
> > Black race population percentage significantly below state average.
> > Hispanic race population percentage significantly below state average.
> > Median age above state average.
> > Foreign-born population percentage significantly below state average.
> > Renting percentage below state average.
> > Institutionalized population percentage above state average.
> > Percentage of population with a bachelor's degree or higher below state
> > average.
> > Population density below state average for cities.
> >
> > "institutionalized population"? lol-what does that mean?
>
> LOL, that means we have a prison out here.
>
I moved to Phoenix from L.A. in 1985 (for work during construction of Palo
Verde, would never move there intentionally...sorry Arlo). As I was
driving out for the first time down the 10 I passed that sign that said
"Correctional Institution, do not stop for hitchkikers." I'm still
laughing.
> : )
>
> T
>
>
>
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Date: 29 Nov 23:24:32
From: my cousin,my gastroentero
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 11:35 AM, JohnnyYooper wrote:
> Raider Fan wrote:
> > Fell,
> >
> > Good luck to you and Tanya on your new business venture. Aside from the
> > convenience of being in close proximity to your partner, it seems like
> > Kingman isn't the best choice for opening a retail store. Did you
> > consider Phoenix or Tucson? I'll give you credit that you didn't pick
> > Yuma at least.
> >
> > Retail is a tough way to make a buck. By the way, do you have any idea
> > how hot it gets in the summer?
>
>
> Kingman stats:
> Median house value significantly below state average.
> Black race population percentage significantly below state average.
> Hispanic race population percentage significantly below state average.
> Median age above state average.
> Foreign-born population percentage significantly below state average.
> Renting percentage below state average.
> Institutionalized population percentage above state average.
> Percentage of population with a bachelor's degree or higher below state
> average.
> Population density below state average for cities.
>
> "institutionalized population"? lol-what does that mean?
i'm not sure but it certainly does sound like a lovely place to live. If they
have a Chili's i'm there.
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Date: 29 Nov 23:31:04
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
|
On Nov 29 2006 4:24 PM, my cousin,my gastroentero wrote:
>
>
> On Nov 29 2006 11:35 AM, JohnnyYooper wrote:
>
> > Raider Fan wrote:
> > > Fell,
> > >
> > > Good luck to you and Tanya on your new business venture. Aside from the
> > > convenience of being in close proximity to your partner, it seems like
> > > Kingman isn't the best choice for opening a retail store. Did you
> > > consider Phoenix or Tucson? I'll give you credit that you didn't pick
> > > Yuma at least.
> > >
> > > Retail is a tough way to make a buck. By the way, do you have any idea
> > > how hot it gets in the summer?
> >
> >
> > Kingman stats:
> > Median house value significantly below state average.
> > Black race population percentage significantly below state average.
> > Hispanic race population percentage significantly below state average.
> > Median age above state average.
> > Foreign-born population percentage significantly below state average.
> > Renting percentage below state average.
> > Institutionalized population percentage above state average.
> > Percentage of population with a bachelor's degree or higher below state
> > average.
> > Population density below state average for cities.
> >
> > "institutionalized population"? lol-what does that mean?
>
>
> i'm not sure but it certainly does sound like a lovely place to live. If they
> have a Chili's i'm there.
LOL, we got one about a year ago, welcome!!
T
>
>
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Date: 29 Nov 23:33:42
From: my cousin,my gastroentero
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
|
On Nov 29 2006 5:31 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
>
>
>
> On Nov 29 2006 4:24 PM, my cousin,my gastroentero wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On Nov 29 2006 11:35 AM, JohnnyYooper wrote:
> >
> > > Raider Fan wrote:
> > > > Fell,
> > > >
> > > > Good luck to you and Tanya on your new business venture. Aside from the
> > > > convenience of being in close proximity to your partner, it seems like
> > > > Kingman isn't the best choice for opening a retail store. Did you
> > > > consider Phoenix or Tucson? I'll give you credit that you didn't pick
> > > > Yuma at least.
> > > >
> > > > Retail is a tough way to make a buck. By the way, do you have any idea
> > > > how hot it gets in the summer?
> > >
> > >
> > > Kingman stats:
> > > Median house value significantly below state average.
> > > Black race population percentage significantly below state average.
> > > Hispanic race population percentage significantly below state average.
> > > Median age above state average.
> > > Foreign-born population percentage significantly below state average.
> > > Renting percentage below state average.
> > > Institutionalized population percentage above state average.
> > > Percentage of population with a bachelor's degree or higher below state
> > > average.
> > > Population density below state average for cities.
> > >
> > > "institutionalized population"? lol-what does that mean?
> >
> >
> > i'm not sure but it certainly does sound like a lovely place to live. If
> > they
> > have a Chili's i'm there.
>
> LOL, we got one about a year ago, welcome!!
>
> T
suuuuhweeet, is there room in the bed? i must admit i do tend to kick and hog
covers. awesome blossom's on me!
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Date: 29 Nov 23:36:39
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 4:33 PM, my cousin,my gastroentero wrote:
>
>
> On Nov 29 2006 5:31 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 29 2006 4:24 PM, my cousin,my gastroentero wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Nov 29 2006 11:35 AM, JohnnyYooper wrote:
> > >
> > > > Raider Fan wrote:
> > > > > Fell,
> > > > >
> > > > > Good luck to you and Tanya on your new business venture. Aside from
> > > > > the
> > > > > convenience of being in close proximity to your partner, it seems like
> > > > > Kingman isn't the best choice for opening a retail store. Did you
> > > > > consider Phoenix or Tucson? I'll give you credit that you didn't pick
> > > > > Yuma at least.
> > > > >
> > > > > Retail is a tough way to make a buck. By the way, do you have any idea
> > > > > how hot it gets in the summer?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Kingman stats:
> > > > Median house value significantly below state average.
> > > > Black race population percentage significantly below state average.
> > > > Hispanic race population percentage significantly below state average.
> > > > Median age above state average.
> > > > Foreign-born population percentage significantly below state average.
> > > > Renting percentage below state average.
> > > > Institutionalized population percentage above state average.
> > > > Percentage of population with a bachelor's degree or higher below state
> > > > average.
> > > > Population density below state average for cities.
> > > >
> > > > "institutionalized population"? lol-what does that mean?
> > >
> > >
> > > i'm not sure but it certainly does sound like a lovely place to live. If
> > > they
> > > have a Chili's i'm there.
> >
> > LOL, we got one about a year ago, welcome!!
> >
> > T
>
>
> suuuuhweeet, is there room in the bed? i must admit i do tend to kick and hog
> covers. awesome blossom's on me!
>
LOL, make it Shanghai Wings (sp?) and we'll talk. : )
T
>
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Date: 30 Nov 22:15:02
From: Ariz Doug
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 4:31 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
>
>
>
> On Nov 29 2006 4:24 PM, my cousin,my gastroentero wrote:
>
>
> > i'm not sure but it certainly does sound like a lovely place to live. If
> > they
> > have a Chili's i'm there.
>
> LOL, we got one about a year ago, welcome!!
>
> T
A friend of mine who goes to Kingman occasionally says Chili's is now the nicest
restaurant in town - he used to like a place called "Margaritaville" but a
couple of years ago a freind of his got a DWI leaving the place which dimmed his
enthusiasm for going there.
Doug
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Date: 30 Nov 22:32:36
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 30 2006 3:15 PM, Ariz Doug wrote:
>
>
> On Nov 29 2006 4:31 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 29 2006 4:24 PM, my cousin,my gastroentero wrote:
> >
> >
> > > i'm not sure but it certainly does sound like a lovely place to live. If
> > > they
> > > have a Chili's i'm there.
> >
> > LOL, we got one about a year ago, welcome!!
> >
> > T
>
> A friend of mine who goes to Kingman occasionally says Chili's is now the
> nicest
> restaurant in town - he used to like a place called "Margaritaville" but a
> couple of years ago a freind of his got a DWI leaving the place which dimmed
> his
> enthusiasm for going there.
>
> Doug
I will admit Chili's is my fav place to go for a nice meal and to just hang out
and chill, have a few drinks, etc. I don't know of a "Margaritaville" in town,
must of closed down years ago or is not directly in Kingman.
T
>
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 01:10:40
From: Batman
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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That's almost like the sign on the way to San Diego from LA on the 5:
Beware of People Crossing.
Then of course, they also have it in Spanish. Go figure....
Mike
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brewmaster wrote:
> On Nov 29 2006 10:12 AM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
>
> > On Nov 29 2006 10:35 AM, JohnnyYooper wrote:
> >
> > > Raider Fan wrote:
> > > > Fell,
> > > >
> > > > Good luck to you and Tanya on your new business venture. Aside from the
> > > > convenience of being in close proximity to your partner, it seems like
> > > > Kingman isn't the best choice for opening a retail store. Did you
> > > > consider Phoenix or Tucson? I'll give you credit that you didn't pick
> > > > Yuma at least.
> > > >
> > > > Retail is a tough way to make a buck. By the way, do you have any idea
> > > > how hot it gets in the summer?
> > >
> > >
> > > Kingman stats:
> > > Median house value significantly below state average.
> > > Black race population percentage significantly below state average.
> > > Hispanic race population percentage significantly below state average.
> > > Median age above state average.
> > > Foreign-born population percentage significantly below state average.
> > > Renting percentage below state average.
> > > Institutionalized population percentage above state average.
> > > Percentage of population with a bachelor's degree or higher below state
> > > average.
> > > Population density below state average for cities.
> > >
> > > "institutionalized population"? lol-what does that mean?
> >
> > LOL, that means we have a prison out here.
> >
>
> I moved to Phoenix from L.A. in 1985 (for work during construction of Palo
> Verde, would never move there intentionally...sorry Arlo). As I was
> driving out for the first time down the 10 I passed that sign that said
> "Correctional Institution, do not stop for hitchkikers." I'm still
> laughing.
>
> > : )
> >
> > T
> >
> >
> >
>
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 07:09:52
From: brewmaster
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 30 2006 1:10 AM, Batman wrote:
> That's almost like the sign on the way to San Diego from LA on the 5:
>
> Beware of People Crossing.
>
> Then of course, they also have it in Spanish. Go figure....
Yeah, and a picture of a man and woman holding hands running with a kid
dragging behind them. Those signs are a riot.
>
> Mike
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> Owner, http://VirtualPaintings.tk
>
> brewmaster wrote:
> > On Nov 29 2006 10:12 AM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
> >
> > > On Nov 29 2006 10:35 AM, JohnnyYooper wrote:
> > >
> > > > Raider Fan wrote:
> > > > > Fell,
> > > > >
> > > > > Good luck to you and Tanya on your new business venture. Aside from
the
> > > > > convenience of being in close proximity to your partner, it seems
like
> > > > > Kingman isn't the best choice for opening a retail store. Did you
> > > > > consider Phoenix or Tucson? I'll give you credit that you didn't pick
> > > > > Yuma at least.
> > > > >
> > > > > Retail is a tough way to make a buck. By the way, do you have any
idea
> > > > > how hot it gets in the summer?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Kingman stats:
> > > > Median house value significantly below state average.
> > > > Black race population percentage significantly below state average.
> > > > Hispanic race population percentage significantly below state average.
> > > > Median age above state average.
> > > > Foreign-born population percentage significantly below state average.
> > > > Renting percentage below state average.
> > > > Institutionalized population percentage above state average.
> > > > Percentage of population with a bachelor's degree or higher below state
> > > > average.
> > > > Population density below state average for cities.
> > > >
> > > > "institutionalized population"? lol-what does that mean?
> > >
> > > LOL, that means we have a prison out here.
> > >
> >
> > I moved to Phoenix from L.A. in 1985 (for work during construction of Palo
> > Verde, would never move there intentionally...sorry Arlo). As I was
> > driving out for the first time down the 10 I passed that sign that said
> > "Correctional Institution, do not stop for hitchkikers." I'm still
> > laughing.
> >
> > > : )
> > >
> > > T
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 09:05:17
From: Howard Beale
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 9:52 AM, Raider Fan wrote:
> Fell,
>
> Good luck to you and Tanya on your new business venture. Aside from the
> convenience of being in close proximity to your partner, it seems like
> Kingman isn't the best choice for opening a retail store. Did you
> consider Phoenix or Tucson? I'll give you credit that you didn't pick
> Yuma at least.
>
> Retail is a tough way to make a buck. By the way, do you have any idea
> how hot it gets in the summer?
This is the first I hear of this. Good luck to them. Kingman is a
growing area and, because of the altitude, it doesn't get all that hot in
the summer:
http://ci.kingman.az.us/pages/about/climate.asp
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 08:55:16
From: brewmaster
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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Wow, Fell moved to Kingman? Interesting coincidence ;)
On Nov 29 2006 8:52 AM, Raider Fan wrote:
> Fell,
>
> Good luck to you and Tanya on your new business venture. Aside from the
> convenience of being in close proximity to your partner, it seems like
> Kingman isn't the best choice for opening a retail store. Did you
> consider Phoenix or Tucson? I'll give you credit that you didn't pick
> Yuma at least.
>
> Retail is a tough way to make a buck. By the way, do you have any idea
> how hot it gets in the summer?
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 09:08:42
From: Olemite
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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I will also wish you Good Luck!
Ragz for Teenz? Is that what kids are calling clothes these days? I
am really out of the loop.
Ole
Raider Fan wrote:
> Fell,
>
> Good luck to you and Tanya on your new business venture. Aside from the
> convenience of being in close proximity to your partner, it seems like
> Kingman isn't the best choice for opening a retail store. Did you
> consider Phoenix or Tucson? I'll give you credit that you didn't pick
> Yuma at least.
>
> Retail is a tough way to make a buck. By the way, do you have any idea
> how hot it gets in the summer?
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Date: 29 Nov 17:11:22
From: Porsche_Dan
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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No kidding, in my day those we sanitary devices!
On Nov 29 2006 9:08 AM, Olemite wrote:
> I will also wish you Good Luck!
>
> Ragz for Teenz? Is that what kids are calling clothes these days? I
> am really out of the loop.
>
> Ole
>
> Raider Fan wrote:
> > Fell,
> >
> > Good luck to you and Tanya on your new business venture. Aside from the
> > convenience of being in close proximity to your partner, it seems like
> > Kingman isn't the best choice for opening a retail store. Did you
> > consider Phoenix or Tucson? I'll give you credit that you didn't pick
> > Yuma at least.
> >
> > Retail is a tough way to make a buck. By the way, do you have any idea
> > how hot it gets in the summer?
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Date: 30 Nov
From: Mrs. LHE
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 12:08 PM, Olemite wrote:
> I will also wish you Good Luck!
>
> Ragz for Teenz? Is that what kids are calling clothes these days? I
> am really out of the loop.
>
> Ole
Sounds like history repeating itself. Didn't they call them rags in the 50's?
Like from the song "Rock Around the Clock" by Bill Haley & The Comets (I
think?): "Get your glad rags on, join the hop, we'll have some fun when the
clock strikes one..." This is what I thought of as soon as I saw the name for
T's new store.
- Mrs. E
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 16:33:31
From: RedKnave
Subject: Tanya and Fell
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On Nov 29 2006 11:52 AM, Raider Fan wrote:
> Fell,
>
> Good luck to you and Tanya on your new business venture. Aside from the
> convenience of being in close proximity to your partner, it seems like
> Kingman isn't the best choice for opening a retail store. Did you
> consider Phoenix or Tucson? I'll give you credit that you didn't pick
> Yuma at least.
>
> Retail is a tough way to make a buck. By the way, do you have any idea
> how hot it gets in the summer?
If for no reason other than to add a bit of karmic balance to the doubters
and naysayers.....
I wish you both the absolute best luck in your business venture. May your
store prosper and grow, and make you both wealthy beyond your dreams. (Or
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Date: 30 Nov
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: Tanya and Fell
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On Nov 29 2006 5:33 PM, RedKnave wrote:
> On Nov 29 2006 11:52 AM, Raider Fan wrote:
>
> > Fell,
> >
> > Good luck to you and Tanya on your new business venture. Aside from the
> > convenience of being in close proximity to your partner, it seems like
> > Kingman isn't the best choice for opening a retail store. Did you
> > consider Phoenix or Tucson? I'll give you credit that you didn't pick
> > Yuma at least.
> >
> > Retail is a tough way to make a buck. By the way, do you have any idea
> > how hot it gets in the summer?
>
> If for no reason other than to add a bit of karmic balance to the doubters
> and naysayers.....
>
> I wish you both the absolute best luck in your business venture. May your
> store prosper and grow, and make you both wealthy beyond your dreams. (Or
> at least provide you with plenty of capital to finance your poker habits.)
TYVM from the both of us.
T and Fell.
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Date: 30 Nov
From: my cousin,my gastroentero
Subject: Re: Tanya and Fell
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On Nov 29 2006 8:11 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
>
>
>
> On Nov 29 2006 5:33 PM, RedKnave wrote:
>
> > On Nov 29 2006 11:52 AM, Raider Fan wrote:
> >
> > > Fell,
> > >
> > > Good luck to you and Tanya on your new business venture. Aside from the
> > > convenience of being in close proximity to your partner, it seems like
> > > Kingman isn't the best choice for opening a retail store. Did you
> > > consider Phoenix or Tucson? I'll give you credit that you didn't pick
> > > Yuma at least.
> > >
> > > Retail is a tough way to make a buck. By the way, do you have any idea
> > > how hot it gets in the summer?
> >
> > If for no reason other than to add a bit of karmic balance to the doubters
> > and naysayers.....
> >
> > I wish you both the absolute best luck in your business venture. May your
> > store prosper and grow, and make you both wealthy beyond your dreams. (Or
> > at least provide you with plenty of capital to finance your poker habits.)
>
> TYVM from the both of us.
>
> T and Fell.
awww, i see precious holiday cards in your future.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 14:57:43
From: Lou Krieger
Subject: Re: Tanya and Fell
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I wish you guys the best of luck. Dating someone and opening a business with
them is a big parlay, but at least it's one where you guys can overcome the
odds with hard work on both your parts.
Hope the business and the relationship is a rousing success.
_______
Lou Krieger
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>
>
>
> On Nov 29 2006 5:33 PM, RedKnave wrote:
>
>> On Nov 29 2006 11:52 AM, Raider Fan wrote:
>>
>> > Fell,
>> >
>> > Good luck to you and Tanya on your new business venture. Aside from the
>> > convenience of being in close proximity to your partner, it seems like
>> > Kingman isn't the best choice for opening a retail store. Did you
>> > consider Phoenix or Tucson? I'll give you credit that you didn't pick
>> > Yuma at least.
>> >
>> > Retail is a tough way to make a buck. By the way, do you have any idea
>> > how hot it gets in the summer?
>>
>> If for no reason other than to add a bit of karmic balance to the
>> doubters
>> and naysayers.....
>>
>> I wish you both the absolute best luck in your business venture. May your
>> store prosper and grow, and make you both wealthy beyond your dreams. (Or
>> at least provide you with plenty of capital to finance your poker
>> habits.)
>
> TYVM from the both of us.
>
> T and Fell.
>
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 12:24:00
From: FellKnight
Subject: Re: Hey Fell.... Kingman, AZ?
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On Nov 29 2006 9:52 AM, Raider Fan wrote:
> Fell,
>
> Good luck to you and Tanya on your new business venture. Aside from the
> convenience of being in close proximity to your partner, it seems like
> Kingman isn't the best choice for opening a retail store. Did you
> consider Phoenix or Tucson? I'll give you credit that you didn't pick
> Yuma at least.
Thanks. We do plan to expand into a statewide chain eventually.
> Retail is a tough way to make a buck. By the way, do you have any idea
> how hot it gets in the summer?
I spent 6 weeks in Vegas in 2005... I think I have some idea (DAMN HOT) ;)
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 11:44:02
From: pokerchimp
Subject: OVER/UNDER on whether this thread beats "Fell goes Pro"
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On Nov 29 2006 11:52 AM, Raider Fan wrote:
> Fell,
>
> Good luck to you and Tanya on your new business venture. Aside from the
> convenience of being in close proximity to your partner, it seems like
> Kingman isn't the best choice for opening a retail store. Did you
> consider Phoenix or Tucson? I'll give you credit that you didn't pick
> Yuma at least.
>
> Retail is a tough way to make a buck. By the way, do you have any idea
> how hot it gets in the summer?
thumbers on stars, pokerchimp1 on absolute
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Date: 29 Nov 20:23:33
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: OVER/UNDER on whether this thread beats
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LOL, for sure the under, but the thread is growing slower then I thought it
would.
Which is GREAT, imo.
Raiderfan, I guess you really did get a lot of people to killfile you. Either
that, or it's still early.
; )
T
On Nov 29 2006 12:44 PM, pokerchimp wrote:
> On Nov 29 2006 11:52 AM, Raider Fan wrote:
>
> > Fell,
> >
> > Good luck to you and Tanya on your new business venture. Aside from the
> > convenience of being in close proximity to your partner, it seems like
> > Kingman isn't the best choice for opening a retail store. Did you
> > consider Phoenix or Tucson? I'll give you credit that you didn't pick
> > Yuma at least.
> >
> > Retail is a tough way to make a buck. By the way, do you have any idea
> > how hot it gets in the summer?
>
>
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 12:46:04
From: brewmaster
Subject: Re: OVER/UNDER on whether this thread beats
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On Nov 29 2006 12:23 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
> LOL, for sure the under, but the thread is growing slower then I thought it
> would.
>
> Which is GREAT, imo.
>
> Raiderfan, I guess you really did get a lot of people to killfile you. Either
> that, or it's still early.
>
> ; )
>
> T
Hmmm...interesting reply. Anything you want to tell us T?
>
>
> On Nov 29 2006 12:44 PM, pokerchimp wrote:
>
> > On Nov 29 2006 11:52 AM, Raider Fan wrote:
> >
> > > Fell,
> > >
> > > Good luck to you and Tanya on your new business venture. Aside from the
> > > convenience of being in close proximity to your partner, it seems like
> > > Kingman isn't the best choice for opening a retail store. Did you
> > > consider Phoenix or Tucson? I'll give you credit that you didn't pick
> > > Yuma at least.
> > >
> > > Retail is a tough way to make a buck. By the way, do you have any idea
> > > how hot it gets in the summer?
> >
> >
> > thumbers on stars, pokerchimp1 on absolute
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Date: 29 Nov 20:54:54
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: OVER/UNDER on whether this thread beats
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On Nov 29 2006 1:46 PM, brewmaster wrote:
> On Nov 29 2006 12:23 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
>
> > LOL, for sure the under, but the thread is growing slower then I thought it
> > would.
> >
> > Which is GREAT, imo.
> >
> > Raiderfan, I guess you really did get a lot of people to killfile you.
> > Either
> > that, or it's still early.
> >
> > ; )
> >
> > T
>
> Hmmm...interesting reply. Anything you want to tell us T?
>
Can I play the ignorant female role and state that I don't know what you're
talking about??
T
> >
> >
> > On Nov 29 2006 12:44 PM, pokerchimp wrote:
> >
> > > On Nov 29 2006 11:52 AM, Raider Fan wrote:
> > >
> > > > Fell,
> > > >
> > > > Good luck to you and Tanya on your new business venture. Aside from the
> > > > convenience of being in close proximity to your partner, it seems like
> > > > Kingman isn't the best choice for opening a retail store. Did you
> > > > consider Phoenix or Tucson? I'll give you credit that you didn't pick
> > > > Yuma at least.
> > > >
> > > > Retail is a tough way to make a buck. By the way, do you have any idea
> > > > how hot it gets in the summer?
> > >
> > >
> > > thumbers on stars, pokerchimp1 on absolute
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 13:30:45
From: brewmaster
Subject: Re: OVER/UNDER on whether this thread beats
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On Nov 29 2006 12:54 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
> On Nov 29 2006 1:46 PM, brewmaster wrote:
>
> > On Nov 29 2006 12:23 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
> >
> > > LOL, for sure the under, but the thread is growing slower then I thought
it
> > > would.
> > >
> > > Which is GREAT, imo.
> > >
> > > Raiderfan, I guess you really did get a lot of people to killfile you.
> > > Either
> > > that, or it's still early.
> > >
> > > ; )
> > >
> > > T
> >
> > Hmmm...interesting reply. Anything you want to tell us T?
> >
>
> Can I play the ignorant female role and state that I don't know what you're
> talking about??
>
Ok
> T
>
>
> > >
> > >
> > > On Nov 29 2006 12:44 PM, pokerchimp wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Nov 29 2006 11:52 AM, Raider Fan wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Fell,
> > > > >
> > > > > Good luck to you and Tanya on your new business venture. Aside from
the
> > > > > convenience of being in close proximity to your partner, it seems
like
> > > > > Kingman isn't the best choice for opening a retail store. Did you
> > > > > consider Phoenix or Tucson? I'll give you credit that you didn't pick
> > > > > Yuma at least.
> > > > >
> > > > > Retail is a tough way to make a buck. By the way, do you have any
idea
> > > > > how hot it gets in the summer?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > thumbers on stars, pokerchimp1 on absolute
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Date: 29 Nov 20:44:35
From: my cousin,my gastroentero
Subject: Re: OVER/UNDER on whether this thread beats
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On Nov 29 2006 2:23 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
>
> LOL, for sure the under, but the thread is growing slower then I thought it
> would.
>
> Which is GREAT, imo.
>
> Raiderfan, I guess you really did get a lot of people to killfile you. Either
> that, or it's still early.
>
> ; )
>
> T
>
>
> On Nov 29 2006 12:44 PM, pokerchimp wrote:
>
> > On Nov 29 2006 11:52 AM, Raider Fan wrote:
> >
> > > Fell,
> > >
> > > Good luck to you and Tanya on your new business venture. Aside from the
> > > convenience of being in close proximity to your partner, it seems like
> > > Kingman isn't the best choice for opening a retail store. Did you
> > > consider Phoenix or Tucson? I'll give you credit that you didn't pick
> > > Yuma at least.
> > >
> > > Retail is a tough way to make a buck. By the way, do you have any idea
> > > how hot it gets in the summer?
even though you have a name already, i have a few backup name ideas.
"the clothes the sluts on the O.C. wear."
"Someone elses laundry."
"Salvation Army II, cruise control, (or...this time it's personal)
"420 Fashions (always a good idea to refer to something that kids think is cool
and most adults don't get)
"Tara Reid might of thrown up on it." (alternate-"Lindsay Lohan snorted blow off
these jeans")
"rodeo in the desert"
"Second hand clothes, i swear we washed them."
Hope this helps.
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Date: 29 Nov 20:50:21
From: monkeyman
Subject: Re: OVER/UNDER on whether this thread beats
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> "the clothes the sluts on the O.C. wear."
> "Someone elses laundry."
> "Salvation Army II, cruise control, (or...this time it's personal)
> "420 Fashions (always a good idea to refer to something that kids think is
> cool
> and most adults don't get)
> "Tara Reid might of thrown up on it." (alternate-"Lindsay Lohan snorted blow
> off
> these jeans")
> "rodeo in the desert"
> "Second hand clothes, i swear we washed them."
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>
well done. 7 attempts at comedy and you missed on each.
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 13:06:42
From: Raider Fan
Subject: Re: OVER/UNDER on whether this thread beats
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On Nov 29 2006 2:50 PM, monkeyman wrote:
> > "the clothes the sluts on the O.C. wear."
> > "Someone elses laundry."
> > "Salvation Army II, cruise control, (or...this time it's personal)
> > "420 Fashions (always a good idea to refer to something that kids think is
> > cool
> > and most adults don't get)
> > "Tara Reid might of thrown up on it." (alternate-"Lindsay Lohan snorted
blow
> > off
> > these jeans")
> > "rodeo in the desert"
> > "Second hand clothes, i swear we washed them."
> >
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> >
>
> well done. 7 attempts at comedy and you missed on each.
I wouldn't give him a donut. 420 was funny and the last one wasn't bad.
I liked the first one too, but I don't think you can have a store name
with the word sluts in it. It would be tough to advertise.
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Date: 29 Nov 20:57:48
From: my cousin,my gastroentero
Subject: Re: OVER/UNDER on whether this thread beats
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On Nov 29 2006 2:50 PM, monkeyman wrote:
>
> > "the clothes the sluts on the O.C. wear."
> > "Someone elses laundry."
> > "Salvation Army II, cruise control, (or...this time it's personal)
> > "420 Fashions (always a good idea to refer to something that kids think is
> > cool
> > and most adults don't get)
> > "Tara Reid might of thrown up on it." (alternate-"Lindsay Lohan snorted blow
> > off
> > these jeans")
> > "rodeo in the desert"
> > "Second hand clothes, i swear we washed them."
> >
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> >
>
> well done. 7 attempts at comedy and you missed on each.
oh i dunno, i thought at least three were hits. tough crowd tough crowd.
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 12:08:24
From: Raider Fan
Subject: Re: OVER/UNDER on whether this thread beats "Fell goes Pro"
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On Nov 29 2006 1:44 PM, pokerchimp wrote:
I'll take the under. I've managed to make it on MANY killfiles over the
years.
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 14:16:46
From: Raider Fan
Subject: Re: OVER/UNDER on whether this thread beats "Fell goes Pro"
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On Nov 29 2006 2:08 PM, Raider Fan wrote:
> On Nov 29 2006 1:44 PM, pokerchimp wrote:
>
> I'll take the under. I've managed to make it on MANY killfiles over the
> years.
Based on Chimp's recent post, I'm strongly considering moving to the over.
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Date: 29 Nov 19:54:25
From: CHarrison100
Subject: Re: OVER/UNDER on whether this thread beats
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On Nov 29 2006 2:44 PM, pokerchimp wrote:
> On Nov 29 2006 11:52 AM, Raider Fan wrote:
>
> > Fell,
> >
> > Good luck to you and Tanya on your new business venture. Aside from the
> > convenience of being in close proximity to your partner, it seems like
> > Kingman isn't the best choice for opening a retail store. Did you
> > consider Phoenix or Tucson? I'll give you credit that you didn't pick
> > Yuma at least.
> >
> > Retail is a tough way to make a buck. By the way, do you have any idea
> > how hot it gets in the summer?
>
>
> thumbers on stars, pokerchimp1 on absolute
I say under but over "Age of RGPers"
Rember Stone got into the "Fell goes Pro" mix
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 12:19:59
From: brewmaster
Subject: Re: OVER/UNDER on whether this thread beats
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On Nov 29 2006 11:54 AM, CHarrison100 wrote:
> On Nov 29 2006 2:44 PM, pokerchimp wrote:
>
> > On Nov 29 2006 11:52 AM, Raider Fan wrote:
> >
> > > Fell,
> > >
> > > Good luck to you and Tanya on your new business venture. Aside from the
> > > convenience of being in close proximity to your partner, it seems like
> > > Kingman isn't the best choice for opening a retail store. Did you
> > > consider Phoenix or Tucson? I'll give you credit that you didn't pick
> > > Yuma at least.
> > >
> > > Retail is a tough way to make a buck. By the way, do you have any idea
> > > how hot it gets in the summer?
> >
> >
> > thumbers on stars, pokerchimp1 on absolute
>
> I say under but over "Age of RGPers"
>
> Rember Stone got into the "Fell goes Pro" mix
That one is over 700 or 800 isn't it? Maybe more? Of course, depending
on where the speculation in this thread goes....
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 13:05:58
From: Aodhan
Subject: Re: OVER/UNDER on whether this thread beats
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> That one is over 700 or 800 isn't it? Maybe more? Of course, depending
> on where the speculation in this thread goes....
My reader shows 858 unread messages in the thread, and I read about maybe
60 or 70 total, so that puts it around 930 or so, minus the probably 100+
stone threads.
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