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Date: 28 Nov 23:08:21
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Hating at the Table
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I have never been involved in a tourney where there was so much hating going on.
A lot of it being directed at me too, is it because I'm female??
I don't understand why a lot of players are like that, and I know that some of
you here even go that route, but good lord, can't we just all get along and play
poker????
OK, rant over.
PS, Tourney #36700983, $50/$5, 450 started, 24 left, ITM.
T
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 05:28:28
From: Beldin the Sorcerer
Subject: Re: Hating at the Table
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"Tanya AKA MissT74" <43084303@recpoker.com > wrote in message
news:1164755301$912600@recpoker.com...
>
> I have never been involved in a tourney where there was so much hating
going on.
> A lot of it being directed at me too, is it because I'm female??
Generally it's because someone plays badly.
>
> I don't understand why a lot of players are like that, and I know that
some of
> you here even go that route, but good lord, can't we just all get along
and play
> poker????
It's part of the game.
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 23:13:11
From: xyious
Subject: Re: Hating at the Table
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On Nov 29 2006 6:28 AM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
> "Tanya AKA MissT74" <43084303@recpoker.com> wrote in message
> news:1164755301$912600@recpoker.com...
> >
> > I have never been involved in a tourney where there was so much hating
> going on.
> > A lot of it being directed at me too, is it because I'm female??
>
> Generally it's because someone plays badly.
i've been called an idiot (and worse) so many times for pushing every
single hand on the bubble of a SNG as huge chipleader with large blinds.
and you can't tell me that's bad play.
>
>
> >
> > I don't understand why a lot of players are like that, and I know that
> some of
> > you here even go that route, but good lord, can't we just all get along
> and play
> > poker????
>
> It's part of the game.
-Alexander Knopf
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 07:57:55
From: Beldin the Sorcerer
Subject: Re: Hating at the Table
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"xyious" <a52dfe8@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
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> On Nov 29 2006 6:28 AM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
> > "Tanya AKA MissT74" <43084303@recpoker.com> wrote in message
> > news:1164755301$912600@recpoker.com...
> > >
> > > I have never been involved in a tourney where there was so much hating
> > going on.
> > > A lot of it being directed at me too, is it because I'm female??
> >
> > Generally it's because someone plays badly.
>
> i've been called an idiot (and worse) so many times for pushing every
> single hand on the bubble of a SNG as huge chipleader with large blinds.
> and you can't tell me that's bad play.
>
That's a complete idiot play if anyone can hurt you.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > I don't understand why a lot of players are like that, and I know that
> > some of
> > > you here even go that route, but good lord, can't we just all get
along
> > and play
> > > poker????
> >
> > It's part of the game.
>
>
> -Alexander Knopf
> http://www.xyious.com/?links
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 18:33:58
From: Dr Zen
Subject: Re: Hating at the Table
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On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 07:57:55 GMT, "Beldin the Sorcerer"
<beldinyyz@verizon.net > wrote:
>
>"xyious" <a52dfe8@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
>news:7hov34x30j.ln2@recgroups.com...
>> On Nov 29 2006 6:28 AM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
>> > "Tanya AKA MissT74" <43084303@recpoker.com> wrote in message
>> > news:1164755301$912600@recpoker.com...
>> > >
>> > > I have never been involved in a tourney where there was so much hating
>> > going on.
>> > > A lot of it being directed at me too, is it because I'm female??
>> >
>> > Generally it's because someone plays badly.
>>
>> i've been called an idiot (and worse) so many times for pushing every
>> single hand on the bubble of a SNG as huge chipleader with large blinds.
>> and you can't tell me that's bad play.
>>
>
>That's a complete idiot play if anyone can hurt you.
>
You've not met Alex yet?
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 18:10:15
From: xyious
Subject: Re: Hating at the Table
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On Nov 29 2006 8:57 AM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
> "xyious" <a52dfe8@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> news:7hov34x30j.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > On Nov 29 2006 6:28 AM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
> > > "Tanya AKA MissT74" <43084303@recpoker.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1164755301$912600@recpoker.com...
> > > >
> > > > I have never been involved in a tourney where there was so much hating
> > > going on.
> > > > A lot of it being directed at me too, is it because I'm female??
> > >
> > > Generally it's because someone plays badly.
> >
> > i've been called an idiot (and worse) so many times for pushing every
> > single hand on the bubble of a SNG as huge chipleader with large blinds.
> > and you can't tell me that's bad play.
> >
>
> That's a complete idiot play if anyone can hurt you.
actually it's completely retarded for anyone that can hurt me to call.
which is why it's so profitable.
>
>
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I don't understand why a lot of players are like that, and I know that
> > > some of
> > > > you here even go that route, but good lord, can't we just all get
> along
> > > and play
> > > > poker????
> > >
> > > It's part of the game.
> >
> >
> > -Alexander Knopf
> > http://www.xyious.com/?links
> >
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 12:54:41
From: Dr Zen
Subject: Re: Hating at the Table
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On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 18:10:15 -0800, "xyious" <a52dfe8@webnntp.invalid >
wrote:
>On Nov 29 2006 8:57 AM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
>> "xyious" <a52dfe8@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:7hov34x30j.ln2@recgroups.com...
>> > On Nov 29 2006 6:28 AM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
>> > > "Tanya AKA MissT74" <43084303@recpoker.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:1164755301$912600@recpoker.com...
>> > > >
>> > > > I have never been involved in a tourney where there was so much hating
>> > > going on.
>> > > > A lot of it being directed at me too, is it because I'm female??
>> > >
>> > > Generally it's because someone plays badly.
>> >
>> > i've been called an idiot (and worse) so many times for pushing every
>> > single hand on the bubble of a SNG as huge chipleader with large blinds.
>> > and you can't tell me that's bad play.
>> >
>>
>> That's a complete idiot play if anyone can hurt you.
>
>actually it's completely retarded for anyone that can hurt me to call.
>which is why it's so profitable.
? I'm framing that one.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 06:32:50
From: xyious
Subject: Re: Hating at the Table
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On Nov 30 2006 3:54 AM, Dr Zen wrote:
> >> > i've been called an idiot (and worse) so many times for pushing every
> >> > single hand on the bubble of a SNG as huge chipleader with large blinds.
> >> > and you can't tell me that's bad play.
> >> >
> >>
> >> That's a complete idiot play if anyone can hurt you.
> >
> >actually it's completely retarded for anyone that can hurt me to call.
> >which is why it's so profitable.
>
> ? I'm framing that one.
ok, i'm gonna try and put it into small and simple words so you can follow.
let's assume following situation. 4 players left in a single table
tournament, 3 paid (it's what we call the bubble). now i have a stack of
6000 chips, you have a stack of 5000 chips, and the other two players have
stacks of 1000 chips (sorry about the long sentence). now even if i push
every single hand, how many hands should you call with ?
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 08:52:01
From: Dr Zen
Subject: Re: Hating at the Table
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On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 06:32:50 -0800, "xyious" <a52dfe8@webnntp.invalid >
wrote:
>On Nov 30 2006 3:54 AM, Dr Zen wrote:
>> >> > i've been called an idiot (and worse) so many times for pushing every
>> >> > single hand on the bubble of a SNG as huge chipleader with large blinds.
>> >> > and you can't tell me that's bad play.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> That's a complete idiot play if anyone can hurt you.
>> >
>> >actually it's completely retarded for anyone that can hurt me to call.
>> >which is why it's so profitable.
>>
>> ? I'm framing that one.
>
>ok, i'm gonna try and put it into small and simple words so you can follow.
>let's assume following situation. 4 players left in a single table
>tournament, 3 paid (it's what we call the bubble). now i have a stack of
>6000 chips, you have a stack of 5000 chips, and the other two players have
>stacks of 1000 chips (sorry about the long sentence). now even if i push
>every single hand, how many hands should you call with ?
>
>
What I mean to say is that any analysis of poker that pretends that
all your opponents are rational is lacking something.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 19:30:41
From: xyious
Subject: Re: Hating at the Table
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On Nov 30 2006 11:52 PM, Dr Zen wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 06:32:50 -0800, "xyious" <a52dfe8@webnntp.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> >On Nov 30 2006 3:54 AM, Dr Zen wrote:
> >> >> > i've been called an idiot (and worse) so many times for pushing every
> >> >> > single hand on the bubble of a SNG as huge chipleader with large
blinds.
> >> >> > and you can't tell me that's bad play.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> That's a complete idiot play if anyone can hurt you.
> >> >
> >> >actually it's completely retarded for anyone that can hurt me to call.
> >> >which is why it's so profitable.
> >>
> >> ? I'm framing that one.
> >
> >ok, i'm gonna try and put it into small and simple words so you can follow.
> >let's assume following situation. 4 players left in a single table
> >tournament, 3 paid (it's what we call the bubble). now i have a stack of
> >6000 chips, you have a stack of 5000 chips, and the other two players have
> >stacks of 1000 chips (sorry about the long sentence). now even if i push
> >every single hand, how many hands should you call with ?
> >
> >
>
> What I mean to say is that any analysis of poker that pretends that
> all your opponents are rational is lacking something.
yes but most people aren't completely retarded.
when you're about 95% to make the money, why would you call with ace rag ?
either way, even if i get called with some sucky hand i have a decent
chance of sucking out, generally around 40%, and if i do i'm very likely
to win the whole thing, if i don't i have as many chips as the 2
shortstacks and have a 2/3 chance of making the money anyway.
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 14:35:52
From: Dr Zen
Subject: Re: Hating at the Table
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On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:30:41 -0800, "xyious" <a52dfe8@webnntp.invalid >
wrote:
>On Nov 30 2006 11:52 PM, Dr Zen wrote:
>> On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 06:32:50 -0800, "xyious" <a52dfe8@webnntp.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Nov 30 2006 3:54 AM, Dr Zen wrote:
>> >> >> > i've been called an idiot (and worse) so many times for pushing every
>> >> >> > single hand on the bubble of a SNG as huge chipleader with large
>blinds.
>> >> >> > and you can't tell me that's bad play.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> That's a complete idiot play if anyone can hurt you.
>> >> >
>> >> >actually it's completely retarded for anyone that can hurt me to call.
>> >> >which is why it's so profitable.
>> >>
>> >> ? I'm framing that one.
>> >
>> >ok, i'm gonna try and put it into small and simple words so you can follow.
>> >let's assume following situation. 4 players left in a single table
>> >tournament, 3 paid (it's what we call the bubble). now i have a stack of
>> >6000 chips, you have a stack of 5000 chips, and the other two players have
>> >stacks of 1000 chips (sorry about the long sentence). now even if i push
>> >every single hand, how many hands should you call with ?
>> >
>> >
>>
>> What I mean to say is that any analysis of poker that pretends that
>> all your opponents are rational is lacking something.
>
>yes but most people aren't completely retarded.
They don't have to be completely retarded to do things that are
theoretically incorrect, Alex.
>when you're about 95% to make the money, why would you call with ace rag ?
You're asking the wrong question. Why would someone call with a pair
of 4s? Why would they call with KQ? Why with AT? You're going in
*every time*, Alex. Give it enough goes round and the guy will be
hanging out for something he can call you with, whether it's
profitable or not.
>either way, even if i get called with some sucky hand i have a decent
>chance of sucking out, generally around 40%, and if i do i'm very likely
>to win the whole thing, if i don't i have as many chips as the 2
>shortstacks and have a 2/3 chance of making the money anyway.
Hmm. I dunno. I'll have to think about whether the gain in equity from
stealing blinds is worth as much as you lose when he calls and you're
a big dog. Because they do call, rightly or wrongly, and even if you
do still have a chance of making the money, you are clearly
surrendering a lot of equity when you are called and lose.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 23:22:14
From: xyious
Subject: Re: Hating at the Table
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On Dec 1 2006 5:35 AM, Dr Zen wrote:
> >yes but most people aren't completely retarded.
>
> They don't have to be completely retarded to do things that are
> theoretically incorrect, Alex.
never said they had to.
> >when you're about 95% to make the money, why would you call with ace rag ?
>
> You're asking the wrong question. Why would someone call with a pair
> of 4s? Why would they call with KQ? Why with AT? You're going in
> *every time*, Alex. Give it enough goes round and the guy will be
> hanging out for something he can call you with, whether it's
> profitable or not.
yeah i get called by pocked deuces. fucking idiots.
> >either way, even if i get called with some sucky hand i have a decent
> >chance of sucking out, generally around 40%, and if i do i'm very likely
> >to win the whole thing, if i don't i have as many chips as the 2
> >shortstacks and have a 2/3 chance of making the money anyway.
>
> Hmm. I dunno. I'll have to think about whether the gain in equity from
> stealing blinds is worth as much as you lose when he calls and you're
> a big dog. Because they do call, rightly or wrongly, and even if you
> do still have a chance of making the money, you are clearly
> surrendering a lot of equity when you are called and lose.
get SNGPT and play around with it a bit.
you'd be surprised.
or if you can't afford to shell out that kinda money.... get a bit of
paper, learn how ICM works, and then do some calculations. again you'll be
surprised (if you actually manage to do the math right).
spoiler: it's the correct play to push every single hand in the situation
as described if someone calls with 5% of their hands (AJs+, AKo, JJ+).
don't wanna actually figure out at which point exactly it isn't profitable
anymore, but really there's no point to it either. it's unlikely you know
your opponent's calling range well enough to make any meaninful
calculations.
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 08:51:33
From: Dr Zen
Subject: Re: Hating at the Table
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On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 06:32:50 -0800, "xyious" <a52dfe8@webnntp.invalid >
wrote:
>On Nov 30 2006 3:54 AM, Dr Zen wrote:
>> >> > i've been called an idiot (and worse) so many times for pushing every
>> >> > single hand on the bubble of a SNG as huge chipleader with large blinds.
>> >> > and you can't tell me that's bad play.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> That's a complete idiot play if anyone can hurt you.
>> >
>> >actually it's completely retarded for anyone that can hurt me to call.
>> >which is why it's so profitable.
>>
>> ? I'm framing that one.
>
>ok, i'm gonna try and put it into small and simple words so you can follow.
>let's assume following situation. 4 players left in a single table
>tournament, 3 paid (it's what we call the bubble). now i have a stack of
>6000 chips, you have a stack of 5000 chips, and the other two players have
>stacks of 1000 chips (sorry about the long sentence). now even if i push
>every single hand, how many hands should you call with ?
>
None, but how many will I?
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 19:26:58
From: xyious
Subject: Re: Hating at the Table
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On Nov 30 2006 11:51 PM, Dr Zen wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 06:32:50 -0800, "xyious" <a52dfe8@webnntp.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> >On Nov 30 2006 3:54 AM, Dr Zen wrote:
> >> >> > i've been called an idiot (and worse) so many times for pushing every
> >> >> > single hand on the bubble of a SNG as huge chipleader with large
blinds.
> >> >> > and you can't tell me that's bad play.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> That's a complete idiot play if anyone can hurt you.
> >> >
> >> >actually it's completely retarded for anyone that can hurt me to call.
> >> >which is why it's so profitable.
> >>
> >> ? I'm framing that one.
> >
> >ok, i'm gonna try and put it into small and simple words so you can follow.
> >let's assume following situation. 4 players left in a single table
> >tournament, 3 paid (it's what we call the bubble). now i have a stack of
> >6000 chips, you have a stack of 5000 chips, and the other two players have
> >stacks of 1000 chips (sorry about the long sentence). now even if i push
> >every single hand, how many hands should you call with ?
> >
>
> None, but how many will I?
actually it's profitable to call with JJ+ in this situation, so 1.8% of
the time.
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 14:24:32
From: Dr Zen
Subject: Re: Hating at the Table
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On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:26:58 -0800, "xyious" <a52dfe8@webnntp.invalid >
wrote:
>On Nov 30 2006 11:51 PM, Dr Zen wrote:
>> On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 06:32:50 -0800, "xyious" <a52dfe8@webnntp.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Nov 30 2006 3:54 AM, Dr Zen wrote:
>> >> >> > i've been called an idiot (and worse) so many times for pushing every
>> >> >> > single hand on the bubble of a SNG as huge chipleader with large
>blinds.
>> >> >> > and you can't tell me that's bad play.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> That's a complete idiot play if anyone can hurt you.
>> >> >
>> >> >actually it's completely retarded for anyone that can hurt me to call.
>> >> >which is why it's so profitable.
>> >>
>> >> ? I'm framing that one.
>> >
>> >ok, i'm gonna try and put it into small and simple words so you can follow.
>> >let's assume following situation. 4 players left in a single table
>> >tournament, 3 paid (it's what we call the bubble). now i have a stack of
>> >6000 chips, you have a stack of 5000 chips, and the other two players have
>> >stacks of 1000 chips (sorry about the long sentence). now even if i push
>> >every single hand, how many hands should you call with ?
>> >
>>
>> None, but how many will I?
>
>actually it's profitable to call with JJ+ in this situation, so 1.8% of
>the time.
>
I guess the point was too hard for you to grasp. Never mind.
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King of the wild pixels.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 23:17:20
From: xyious
Subject: Re: Hating at the Table
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On Dec 1 2006 5:24 AM, Dr Zen wrote:
> >> None, but how many will I?
> >
> >actually it's profitable to call with JJ+ in this situation, so 1.8% of
> >the time.
> >
>
> I guess the point was too hard for you to grasp. Never mind.
this one actually made me smile :)
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 07:19:40
From: Beldin the Sorcerer
Subject: Re: Hating at the Table
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"xyious" <a52dfe8@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
news:75r144xq1o.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > >
> > > i've been called an idiot (and worse) so many times for pushing every
> > > single hand on the bubble of a SNG as huge chipleader with large
blinds.
> > > and you can't tell me that's bad play.
> > >
> >
> > That's a complete idiot play if anyone can hurt you.
>
> actually it's completely retarded for anyone that can hurt me to call.
> which is why it's so profitable.
>
No, they can call with AA or KK.
And cripple you and have a monster lead.
HOWEVER, you do it every hand to people with close stacks, they look at a
near lock on first as a good payoff to risk third place money.
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Date: 30 Nov
From: jd00123
Subject: Re: Hating at the Table
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On Nov 29 2006 1:13 AM, xyious wrote:
> > Generally it's because someone plays badly.
>
> i've been called an idiot (and worse) so many times for pushing every
> single hand on the bubble of a SNG as huge chipleader with large blinds.
> and you can't tell me that's bad play.
>
> >
>>
> -Alexander Knopf
> http://www.xyious.com/?links
Bless you. Its players like you that I pray for in the latter stages of a
tourny. I hate playing with tight asses.
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 20:55:40
From: RussGeorgiev@aol.com
Subject: Re: Hating at the Table
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Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
> I have never been involved in a tourney where there was so much hating going on.
> A lot of it being directed at me too, is it because I'm female??
>
> I don't understand why a lot of players are like that, and I know that some of
> you here even go that route, but good lord, can't we just all get along and play
> poker????
>
> OK, rant over.
>
> PS, Tourney #36700983, $50/$5, 450 started, 24 left, ITM.
>
> T
Word of advice.
It's not good having players like you at the table. For one, it
tightens them up when playing against you, not wanting to beat you.
This is a big negative.
It's better to have players gunning for you and disliking you, for
these players will chase just to get the satisfaction of drawing out or
beating you. This is a BIG POSITIVE.
Russ Georgiev
www.pokermafia.com
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Date: 29 Nov
From: Porsche_Dan
Subject: Re: Hating at the Table
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Indeed. Santa will NOT be busy this year! I railed you for while today and saw
some very questionable play and comments. $50 PS MTTs used to be much more
civil.
On Nov 28 2006 3:08 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
>
> I have never been involved in a tourney where there was so much hating going
> on.
> A lot of it being directed at me too, is it because I'm female??
>
> I don't understand why a lot of players are like that, and I know that some of
> you here even go that route, but good lord, can't we just all get along and
> play
> poker????
>
> OK, rant over.
>
> PS, Tourney #36700983, $50/$5, 450 started, 24 left, ITM.
>
> T
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Date: 29 Nov
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: Hating at the Table
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On Nov 28 2006 6:59 PM, Porsche_Dan wrote:
>
> Indeed. Santa will NOT be busy this year! I railed you for while today and saw
> some very questionable play and comments. $50 PS MTTs used to be much more
> civil.
I usually don't let chat bother me, but when one or two players can actually get
2-3 other players to join in on the hate talk, that disturbs me.
So I turned tattle tale and turned in the one player in question who refused to
leave the table after getting knocked out, instead choosing to stay on and
berate me and call me names. The least I could do was get his chat revoked,
right?
Not so:
Hello misst74,
Thank you for taking the time to bring this to our attention.
I have looked over the chat logs, and agree that some of this player'sremarks
were inappropriate.
Our goal at PokerStars is to be a fun place to play, where everyone can feel
comfortable. I have sent this player a warning asking that he/she refrain from
this type of behavior in the future. If this warning goes unheeded, chat
privileges will be revoked.
Regards,
JenyPokerStars Support Team
Soooo my reply:
Jeny,
I'm extremely disappointed. As a known female player, I find it regretful that
PokerStars finds that being called a "cunt" is excusable with a warning.
My apologies for misunderstanding your site's chat abuse rules.
Sincerely,
Tanya Peck
MissT74
>
> On Nov 28 2006 3:08 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
>
> >
> > I have never been involved in a tourney where there was so much hating going
> > on.
> > A lot of it being directed at me too, is it because I'm female??
> >
> > I don't understand why a lot of players are like that, and I know that some
> > of
> > you here even go that route, but good lord, can't we just all get along and
> > play
> > poker????
> >
> > OK, rant over.
> >
> > PS, Tourney #36700983, $50/$5, 450 started, 24 left, ITM.
> >
> > T
>
>
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 05:40:33
From: Palooka
Subject: Re: Hating at the Table
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"Tanya AKA MissT74" <43084303@recpoker.com > wrote in message
news:1164769702$912779@recpoker.com...
>
>
>
> On Nov 28 2006 6:59 PM, Porsche_Dan wrote:
>
>>
>> Indeed. Santa will NOT be busy this year! I railed you for while today
>> and saw
>> some very questionable play and comments. $50 PS MTTs used to be much
>> more
>> civil.
>
> I usually don't let chat bother me, but when one or two players can
> actually get
> 2-3 other players to join in on the hate talk, that disturbs me.
>
> So I turned tattle tale and turned in the one player in question who
> refused to
> leave the table after getting knocked out, instead choosing to stay on and
> berate me and call me names. The least I could do was get his chat
> revoked,
> right?
>
> Not so:
> Hello misst74,
> Thank you for taking the time to bring this to our attention.
> I have looked over the chat logs, and agree that some of this
> player'sremarks
> were inappropriate.
> Our goal at PokerStars is to be a fun place to play, where everyone can
> feel
> comfortable. I have sent this player a warning asking that he/she refrain
> from
> this type of behavior in the future. If this warning goes unheeded, chat
> privileges will be revoked.
> Regards,
> JenyPokerStars Support Team
>
>
> Soooo my reply:
>
> Jeny,
>
> I'm extremely disappointed. As a known female player, I find it regretful
> that
> PokerStars finds that being called a "cunt" is excusable with a warning.
>
> My apologies for misunderstanding your site's chat abuse rules.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Tanya Peck
> MissT74
>
>
>
>>
>> On Nov 28 2006 3:08 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > I have never been involved in a tourney where there was so much hating
>> > going
>> > on.
>> > A lot of it being directed at me too, is it because I'm female??
>> >
>> > I don't understand why a lot of players are like that, and I know that
>> > some
>> > of
>> > you here even go that route, but good lord, can't we just all get along
>> > and
>> > play
>> > poker????
>> >
>> > OK, rant over.
>> >
>> > PS, Tourney #36700983, $50/$5, 450 started, 24 left, ITM.
>> >
For the person to be let off with a "warning" is completely inadequate, and
entirely ridiculous.
FWIW, having been very upset recently myself at something similar, I just
turned off chat. It will remain off, at least until I go up about three
levels.
Spectator chat, especially from those just eliminated, is of course
generally the most offensive.
Sincerely,
Palooka
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Date: 29 Nov
From: monkeyman
Subject: Re: Hating at the Table
|
pokerstars support is really going down hill.
On Nov 28 2006 7:08 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
>
>
>
> On Nov 28 2006 6:59 PM, Porsche_Dan wrote:
>
> >
> > Indeed. Santa will NOT be busy this year! I railed you for while today and
> > saw
> > some very questionable play and comments. $50 PS MTTs used to be much more
> > civil.
>
> I usually don't let chat bother me, but when one or two players can actually
> get
> 2-3 other players to join in on the hate talk, that disturbs me.
>
> So I turned tattle tale and turned in the one player in question who refused
> to
> leave the table after getting knocked out, instead choosing to stay on and
> berate me and call me names. The least I could do was get his chat revoked,
> right?
>
> Not so:
> Hello misst74,
> Thank you for taking the time to bring this to our attention.
> I have looked over the chat logs, and agree that some of this player'sremarks
> were inappropriate.
> Our goal at PokerStars is to be a fun place to play, where everyone can feel
> comfortable. I have sent this player a warning asking that he/she refrain from
> this type of behavior in the future. If this warning goes unheeded, chat
> privileges will be revoked.
> Regards,
> JenyPokerStars Support Team
>
>
> Soooo my reply:
>
> Jeny,
>
> I'm extremely disappointed. As a known female player, I find it regretful that
> PokerStars finds that being called a "cunt" is excusable with a warning.
>
> My apologies for misunderstanding your site's chat abuse rules.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Tanya Peck
> MissT74
>
>
>
> >
> > On Nov 28 2006 3:08 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I have never been involved in a tourney where there was so much hating
> > > going
> > > on.
> > > A lot of it being directed at me too, is it because I'm female??
> > >
> > > I don't understand why a lot of players are like that, and I know that
> > > some
> > > of
> > > you here even go that route, but good lord, can't we just all get along
> > > and
> > > play
> > > poker????
> > >
> > > OK, rant over.
> > >
> > > PS, Tourney #36700983, $50/$5, 450 started, 24 left, ITM.
> > >
> > > T
> >
> >
>
>
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Date: 29 Nov
From: Porsche_Dan
Subject: Re: Hating at the Table
|
Wow, I missed that one. It was definitely a rowdy table. So how did you end up
in the two $50s?
On Nov 28 2006 9:08 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
> On Nov 28 2006 6:59 PM, Porsche_Dan wrote:
>
> >
> > Indeed. Santa will NOT be busy this year! I railed you for while today and
> > saw
> > some very questionable play and comments. $50 PS MTTs used to be much more
> > civil.
>
> I usually don't let chat bother me, but when one or two players can actually
> get
> 2-3 other players to join in on the hate talk, that disturbs me.
>
> So I turned tattle tale and turned in the one player in question who refused
> to
> leave the table after getting knocked out, instead choosing to stay on and
> berate me and call me names. The least I could do was get his chat revoked,
> right?
>
> Not so:
> Hello misst74,
> Thank you for taking the time to bring this to our attention.
> I have looked over the chat logs, and agree that some of this player'sremarks
> were inappropriate.
> Our goal at PokerStars is to be a fun place to play, where everyone can feel
> comfortable. I have sent this player a warning asking that he/she refrain from
> this type of behavior in the future. If this warning goes unheeded, chat
> privileges will be revoked.
> Regards,
> JenyPokerStars Support Team
>
>
> Soooo my reply:
>
> Jeny,
>
> I'm extremely disappointed. As a known female player, I find it regretful that
> PokerStars finds that being called a "cunt" is excusable with a warning.
>
> My apologies for misunderstanding your site's chat abuse rules.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Tanya Peck
> MissT74
>
>
>
> >
> > On Nov 28 2006 3:08 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I have never been involved in a tourney where there was so much hating
> > > going
> > > on.
> > > A lot of it being directed at me too, is it because I'm female??
> > >
> > > I don't understand why a lot of players are like that, and I know that
> > > some
> > > of
> > > you here even go that route, but good lord, can't we just all get along
> > > and
> > > play
> > > poker????
> > >
> > > OK, rant over.
> > >
> > > PS, Tourney #36700983, $50/$5, 450 started, 24 left, ITM.
> > >
> > > T
> >
> >
>
>
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Date: 29 Nov
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: Hating at the Table
|
On Nov 28 2006 8:12 PM, Porsche_Dan wrote:
>
> Wow, I missed that one. It was definitely a rowdy table. So how did you end
> up
> in the two $50s?
19th place in the hating one and 78th or so in the other one. Cashed for a
whopping $147, lol
T
>
> On Nov 28 2006 9:08 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
>
> > On Nov 28 2006 6:59 PM, Porsche_Dan wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Indeed. Santa will NOT be busy this year! I railed you for while today and
> > > saw
> > > some very questionable play and comments. $50 PS MTTs used to be much
> > > more
> > > civil.
> >
> > I usually don't let chat bother me, but when one or two players can actually
> > get
> > 2-3 other players to join in on the hate talk, that disturbs me.
> >
> > So I turned tattle tale and turned in the one player in question who refused
> > to
> > leave the table after getting knocked out, instead choosing to stay on and
> > berate me and call me names. The least I could do was get his chat revoked,
> > right?
> >
> > Not so:
> > Hello misst74,
> > Thank you for taking the time to bring this to our attention.
> > I have looked over the chat logs, and agree that some of this
> > player'sremarks
> > were inappropriate.
> > Our goal at PokerStars is to be a fun place to play, where everyone can feel
> > comfortable. I have sent this player a warning asking that he/she refrain
> > from
> > this type of behavior in the future. If this warning goes unheeded, chat
> > privileges will be revoked.
> > Regards,
> > JenyPokerStars Support Team
> >
> >
> > Soooo my reply:
> >
> > Jeny,
> >
> > I'm extremely disappointed. As a known female player, I find it regretful
> > that
> > PokerStars finds that being called a "cunt" is excusable with a warning.
> >
> > My apologies for misunderstanding your site's chat abuse rules.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Tanya Peck
> > MissT74
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > On Nov 28 2006 3:08 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I have never been involved in a tourney where there was so much hating
> > > > going
> > > > on.
> > > > A lot of it being directed at me too, is it because I'm female??
> > > >
> > > > I don't understand why a lot of players are like that, and I know that
> > > > some
> > > > of
> > > > you here even go that route, but good lord, can't we just all get along
> > > > and
> > > > play
> > > > poker????
> > > >
> > > > OK, rant over.
> > > >
> > > > PS, Tourney #36700983, $50/$5, 450 started, 24 left, ITM.
> > > >
> > > > T
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 11:01:19
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: Hating at the Table
|
> Hello misst74,
> Thank you for taking the time to bring this to our attention.
> I have looked over the chat logs, and agree that some of this player'sremarks
> were inappropriate.
> Our goal at PokerStars is to be a fun place to play, where everyone can feel
> comfortable. I have sent this player a warning asking that he/she refrain
from
> this type of behavior in the future. If this warning goes unheeded, chat
> privileges will be revoked.
> Regards,
> JenyPokerStars Support Team
Let me translate that for you...
"We looked up this player's records and found that he generates a lot of
rake for us. We didn't want to scare him off to another site, so we gave
him a warning instead. Please understand the risk we are taking here by
reprimanding one of our rake generating, important players."
Morphy
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Date: 29 Nov 19:27:18
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: Hating at the Table
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On Nov 29 2006 12:01 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:
> > Hello misst74,
> > Thank you for taking the time to bring this to our attention.
> > I have looked over the chat logs, and agree that some of this
> > player'sremarks
> > were inappropriate.
> > Our goal at PokerStars is to be a fun place to play, where everyone can feel
> > comfortable. I have sent this player a warning asking that he/she refrain
> from
> > this type of behavior in the future. If this warning goes unheeded, chat
> > privileges will be revoked.
> > Regards,
> > JenyPokerStars Support Team
>
> Let me translate that for you...
>
> "We looked up this player's records and found that he generates a lot of
> rake for us. We didn't want to scare him off to another site, so we gave
> him a warning instead. Please understand the risk we are taking here by
> reprimanding one of our rake generating, important players."
>
> Morphy
> http://donkeymanifesto.blogspot.com/
Ya think?? LOL, Well said Morphy.
T
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 13:04:08
From: ChrisBrown
Subject: Re: Hating at the Table
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On Nov 28 2006 9:08 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
> Soooo my reply:
>
> As a known female player,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delusions_of_grandeur
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Date: 30 Nov
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: Hating at the Table
|
On Nov 29 2006 2:04 PM, ChrisBrown wrote:
> On Nov 28 2006 9:08 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
>
> > Soooo my reply:
> >
> > As a known female player,
>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delusions_of_grandeur
You cracked me up, literally, I was just saying that he KNEW I was FEMALE, not
that I'm a "well known female poker player"
LOL, but I'm laughing.
Score for CB.
T
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Date: 02 Dec 2006 14:32:04
From: Charlie Foxtrot
Subject: Re: Hating at the Table
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On Wed, 29 Nov 06 3:08:22 GMT, Tanya AKA MissT74
<43084303@recpoker.com > wrote:
>So I turned tattle tale and turned in the one player in question who refused to
>leave the table after getting knocked out, instead choosing to stay on and
>berate me and call me names. The least I could do was get his chat revoked,
>right?
WRONG! We're all adults, right? So what if someone's calling you bad
names. Is it going to kill you? No, it's not.
Personally, I don't think there is anything lower than a supposed
adult "running to tell the teacher" over something someone says in a
fucking online poker chat box.
Grow up.
Foxtrot
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 18:54:55
From: Jim Anderson (thejim2020)
Subject: Re: Hating at the Table
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I got my chat revoked for a month for less.
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 07:16:34
From: Beldin the Sorcerer
Subject: Re: Hating at the Table
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"Jim Anderson (thejim2020)" <thejim@iname.com > wrote in message
news:1164855295.255722.4810@l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com...
> I got my chat revoked for a month for less.
>
Did you respond that they allow far worse daily?
Did you pull your money out?
The sites need to learn that they aren't a card room, they're a piece of
software. Random, arbitrary rule enforcement is idiot policy.
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Date: 03 Dec 2006 08:15:44
From: JohnnyYooper
Subject: Re: Hating at the Table
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Irish Mike wrote:
> Wow! How could any one argue with a guy who has "sat as high as 10-20
> limit" ? I just apologize all to hell Bel-dumb. I had no idea you were a
> high stakes player.
>
> Irish Mike
it wasnt that long ago you were playing $1-3 limit stud in Vegas,
big shot.
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Date: 04 Dec 2006 07:41:29
From: David Nicoson
Subject: Re: Hating at the Table
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Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
> Actually, solid players use trash talk well.
>
> Idiots play worse when insulted, particularly at lower stakes.
>
> Pointing out someone is an idiot, "Helmuthing" them, is very +EV.
> They chase more, they call with less, they try insanely hard to suck out on
> you.
I think this story says negative thinks about me, but I'm going to tell
it anyway.
About 2 years ago, I was playing Omaha online. I hit a draw on the
river, and my opponent starting giving me a ton of shit about it. I
was actually a small favorite when the money went in, but he didn't see
it that way. So on and on he went about what a huge donkey I was.
It made me want to beat the guy. A lot.
So, I took his stack him again a few hands later and then he left the
table. And I followed him to a lower stakes NLHE game. And I broke
him on that table.
Then he left and went to a .01/0.2 NLHE game. And I followed him. And
I took his stack again. Then he bought in for something odd, like
$1.38. And I broke him again. He left the table. It was one of the
most satisfying moments I've ever had in poker.
I'd like to think I've grown up a bit since then. Although I wasn't
playing badly, I let emotion dictate my behavior.
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Date: 28 Nov 23:56:31
From: Necron99
Subject: Re: Hating at the Table
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That you're making this post means it's getting to you, why care?
Turn your chat off and play without the distraction.
If mostly nameless and faceless people youre never going to meet want to rag on
you,let them.
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Date: 29 Nov
From: Stu Ungar Fan
Subject: Re: Hating at the Table
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> Turn your chat off and play without the distraction.
How the heck do you turn off the chat function in a live game inside the casino?
http://stuungar.blogspot.com
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 16:42:53
From: brewmaster
Subject: Re: Hating at the Table
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On Nov 28 2006 4:26 PM, Stu Ungar Fan wrote:
> > Turn your chat off and play without the distraction.
>
> How the heck do you turn off the chat function in a live game inside the
casino?
> http://stuungar.blogspot.com
While I like the other answers (gun, beer bottle) I prefer an ipod.
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Date: 29 Nov
From: Max Coin
Subject: Re: Hating at the Table
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On Nov 28 2006 4:42 PM, brewmaster wrote:
> On Nov 28 2006 4:26 PM, Stu Ungar Fan wrote:
>
> > > Turn your chat off and play without the distraction.
> >
> > How the heck do you turn off the chat function in a live game inside the
> casino?
> > http://stuungar.blogspot.com/
>
> While I like the other answers (gun, beer bottle) I prefer an ipod.
Not allowed where I play. Hell, you can't even read at the table!
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 19:15:26
From: Monroe
Subject: Re: Hating at the Table
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You must play at Mandalay Bay. They'll deal you out if you're reading.
Monroe
On Nov 28 2006 8:19 PM, Max Coin wrote:
Not allowed where I play. Hell, you can't even read at the table!
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 17:46:20
From: brewmaster
Subject: Re: Hating at the Table
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On Nov 28 2006 5:19 PM, Max Coin wrote:
> On Nov 28 2006 4:42 PM, brewmaster wrote:
>
> > On Nov 28 2006 4:26 PM, Stu Ungar Fan wrote:
> >
> > > > Turn your chat off and play without the distraction.
> > >
> > > How the heck do you turn off the chat function in a live game inside the
> > casino?
> > > http://stuungar.blogspot.com/
> >
> > While I like the other answers (gun, beer bottle) I prefer an ipod.
>
> Not allowed where I play. Hell, you can't even read at the table!
In a tournament I suppose they can have rules like that, but in a cash
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Date: 29 Nov
From: Max Coin
Subject: Re: Hating at the Table
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On Nov 28 2006 5:46 PM, brewmaster wrote:
> On Nov 28 2006 5:19 PM, Max Coin wrote:
>
> > On Nov 28 2006 4:42 PM, brewmaster wrote:
> >
> > > On Nov 28 2006 4:26 PM, Stu Ungar Fan wrote:
> > >
> > > > > Turn your chat off and play without the distraction.
> > > >
> > > > How the heck do you turn off the chat function in a live game inside the
> > > casino?
> > > > http://stuungar.blogspot.com/
> > >
> > > While I like the other answers (gun, beer bottle) I prefer an ipod.
> >
> > Not allowed where I play. Hell, you can't even read at the table!
>
> In a tournament I suppose they can have rules like that, but in a cash
> game? WTF difference does it make?
I guess they are just avoiding someone slowing down the game.
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Date: 29 Nov
From: Necron99
Subject: Re: Hating at the Table
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Hmm.........., ipod?
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Date: 29 Nov
From: monkeyman
Subject: Re: Hating at the Table
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On Nov 28 2006 4:26 PM, Stu Ungar Fan wrote:
> > Turn your chat off and play without the distraction.
>
> How the heck do you turn off the chat function in a live game inside the
> casino?
> http://stuungar.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
a beer bottle to the head?
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 15:21:58
From: Raider Fan
Subject: Re: Hating at the Table
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On Nov 28 2006 5:08 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
> I have never been involved in a tourney where there was so much hating going
on.
> A lot of it being directed at me too, is it because I'm female??
>
> I don't understand why a lot of players are like that, and I know that some
of
> you here even go that route, but good lord, can't we just all get along and
play
> poker????
>
> OK, rant over.
>
> PS, Tourney #36700983, $50/$5, 450 started, 24 left, ITM.
>
> T
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Date: 28 Nov 23:27:56
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: Hating at the Table
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On Nov 28 2006 4:21 PM, Raider Fan wrote:
> On Nov 28 2006 5:08 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
>
> > I have never been involved in a tourney where there was so much hating going
> on.
> > A lot of it being directed at me too, is it because I'm female??
> >
> > I don't understand why a lot of players are like that, and I know that some
> of
> > you here even go that route, but good lord, can't we just all get along and
> play
> > poker????
> >
> > OK, rant over.
> >
> > PS, Tourney #36700983, $50/$5, 450 started, 24 left, ITM.
> >
> > T
>
> The RGP rail jinx is still going strong.
That was a brutal hand, indeed.
Sigh.
T
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