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Date: 29 Nov 2006 22:46:22
From: FellKnight
Subject: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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I'd like to clear up some misconceptions about my move to Kingman.
Let's start at the beginning.
As most of you know, Tanya and I have been good friends since the 2005
WSOP. We talked often throughout the year. In the summer of 2006, Tanya
decided that her marriage was irreconcilable, and got separated from Bill,
moving with Cherissa to a new home. Things were going well for them and
Tanya decided not to make the news public, both on her blog and on RGP.
At the same time, I left the military to pursue a career as a poker
player. It started very well, with my 4th place in Costa Rica and WCOOP
successes, but I found that I was not enjoying the game as much as I had
hoped, and this was leading to poorer decisions on my part. I believe
that I would have rectified this in time, but then Mr. Bush stepped in.
With the passing of the Safe Port Act, the games where I had had the most
success (Pacific 15/30 and 30/60 Omaha8 and Stud) dried up completely.
Finding a decent game became a chore in and of itself. I had been spoiled
by the poker boom. All this led to a disillusionment with the game
(unfortunately coinciding with my ill-fated trip to Atlantic City and the
USPC).
Talking with Tanya after the USPC, she mentionned how she had decided to
finally open this new business, RagZ for TeenZ, now that she was single
(Bill had nixed the idea while they were together). I asked for more
details, and was sold on the idea. Tanya was going to need some money to
help with the startup costs, and I offered to loan her the money; however,
after
some contemplation, I realized that I would much prefer to invest the
money and become a partner, thus hopefully securing a more prosperous
future for myself. I made the decision to move to Kingman, Tanya found me
a room to rent, and I moved down here just before Hallowe'en.
It was around this time that I got up the nerve to ask Tanya on a date. I
was worried about it being "too soon", but I have skeletons in my past
about waiting too long and letting your love interest get away, so I took
the risk. I was delighted when she accepted.
We spent most of November hard at work getting the store ready for opening
day. It was a whirlwind, and though I had recently left the army, I had
been at a desk job for several years, so this was the first honest work I
had done in a while :)
I thank you all for your wishes of good luck, and your constructive
criticism. For those that live in the SoCal/NoCal/Vegas/Phoenix Areas, I
hope to meet/meet again many of you soon.
Fell
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 07:12:31
From: beerboy
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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Well hey, congratulations you two... This is great news!
Good luck in all future endeavors!
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 23:31:09
From: igotskillz com
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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Best of luck, kidZ
Thank YOU
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 23:05:49
From: Howard Beale
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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I wish you both the very best. GL always.
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Date: 30 Nov
From: Mrs. LHE
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Niiiiiiiice. Congratulations to both of you. I hope your partnerships (both
business and personal) are successful. :-)
- Mrs. E
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 22:51:09
From: xyious
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good luck to both of you.
-Alexander Knopf
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Date: 30 Nov 19:11:57
From: Super Steamer
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 29 2006 10:46 PM, FellKnight wrote:
>
> I thank you all for your wishes of good luck, and your constructive
> criticism. For those that live in the SoCal/NoCal/Vegas/Phoenix Areas, I
> hope to meet/meet again many of you soon.
>
> Fell
I suspected as much. Anyways, good luck to you two, in the business and
relationship, and I hope to see you soon.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 09:55:44
From: DaVoice
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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"FellKnight" <jordandevenport@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:uab244x2ap.ln2@recgroups.com...
> I'd like to clear up some misconceptions about my move to Kingman.
>
> Let's start at the beginning.
>
> As most of you know, Tanya and I have been good friends since the 2005
> WSOP. We talked often throughout the year. In the summer of 2006, Tanya
> decided that her marriage was irreconcilable, and got separated from Bill,
> moving with Cherissa to a new home. Things were going well for them and
> Tanya decided not to make the news public, both on her blog and on RGP.
>
> At the same time, I left the military to pursue a career as a poker
> player. It started very well, with my 4th place in Costa Rica and WCOOP
> successes, but I found that I was not enjoying the game as much as I had
> hoped, and this was leading to poorer decisions on my part. I believe
> that I would have rectified this in time, but then Mr. Bush stepped in.
> With the passing of the Safe Port Act, the games where I had had the most
> success (Pacific 15/30 and 30/60 Omaha8 and Stud) dried up completely.
> Finding a decent game became a chore in and of itself. I had been spoiled
> by the poker boom. All this led to a disillusionment with the game
> (unfortunately coinciding with my ill-fated trip to Atlantic City and the
> USPC).
>
> Talking with Tanya after the USPC, she mentionned how she had decided to
> finally open this new business, RagZ for TeenZ, now that she was single
> (Bill had nixed the idea while they were together). I asked for more
> details, and was sold on the idea. Tanya was going to need some money to
> help with the startup costs, and I offered to loan her the money; however,
> after
> some contemplation, I realized that I would much prefer to invest the
> money and become a partner, thus hopefully securing a more prosperous
> future for myself. I made the decision to move to Kingman, Tanya found me
> a room to rent, and I moved down here just before Hallowe'en.
>
> It was around this time that I got up the nerve to ask Tanya on a date. I
> was worried about it being "too soon", but I have skeletons in my past
> about waiting too long and letting your love interest get away, so I took
> the risk. I was delighted when she accepted.
>
> We spent most of November hard at work getting the store ready for opening
> day. It was a whirlwind, and though I had recently left the army, I had
> been at a desk job for several years, so this was the first honest work I
> had done in a while :)
>
> I thank you all for your wishes of good luck, and your constructive
> criticism. For those that live in the SoCal/NoCal/Vegas/Phoenix Areas, I
> hope to meet/meet again many of you soon.
>
> Fell
Jordan. At least you know who your friends are now. I know of at least 6
of us who knew all of what you just posted and only ONE of them who hinted
(yesterday on RGP) that you and T were romantically involved. I'm glad you
finally went public. I wish nothing but the best for you three (including
Cherissa) with your business and personal ventures. I think you guys make a
great couple, which was obvious at BARGE this year, which was when T told me
about her impending divorce.
Rick "DaVoice" Charles
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 10:58:32
From: pokerchimp
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 12:55 PM, DaVoice wrote:
> "FellKnight" <jordandevenport@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uab244x2ap.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > I'd like to clear up some misconceptions about my move to Kingman.
> >
> > Let's start at the beginning.
> >
> > As most of you know, Tanya and I have been good friends since the 2005
> > WSOP. We talked often throughout the year. In the summer of 2006, Tanya
> > decided that her marriage was irreconcilable, and got separated from Bill,
> > moving with Cherissa to a new home. Things were going well for them and
> > Tanya decided not to make the news public, both on her blog and on RGP.
> >
> > At the same time, I left the military to pursue a career as a poker
> > player. It started very well, with my 4th place in Costa Rica and WCOOP
> > successes, but I found that I was not enjoying the game as much as I had
> > hoped, and this was leading to poorer decisions on my part. I believe
> > that I would have rectified this in time, but then Mr. Bush stepped in.
> > With the passing of the Safe Port Act, the games where I had had the most
> > success (Pacific 15/30 and 30/60 Omaha8 and Stud) dried up completely.
> > Finding a decent game became a chore in and of itself. I had been spoiled
> > by the poker boom. All this led to a disillusionment with the game
> > (unfortunately coinciding with my ill-fated trip to Atlantic City and the
> > USPC).
> >
> > Talking with Tanya after the USPC, she mentionned how she had decided to
> > finally open this new business, RagZ for TeenZ, now that she was single
> > (Bill had nixed the idea while they were together). I asked for more
> > details, and was sold on the idea. Tanya was going to need some money to
> > help with the startup costs, and I offered to loan her the money; however,
> > after
> > some contemplation, I realized that I would much prefer to invest the
> > money and become a partner, thus hopefully securing a more prosperous
> > future for myself. I made the decision to move to Kingman, Tanya found me
> > a room to rent, and I moved down here just before Hallowe'en.
> >
> > It was around this time that I got up the nerve to ask Tanya on a date. I
> > was worried about it being "too soon", but I have skeletons in my past
> > about waiting too long and letting your love interest get away, so I took
> > the risk. I was delighted when she accepted.
> >
> > We spent most of November hard at work getting the store ready for opening
> > day. It was a whirlwind, and though I had recently left the army, I had
> > been at a desk job for several years, so this was the first honest work I
> > had done in a while :)
> >
> > I thank you all for your wishes of good luck, and your constructive
> > criticism. For those that live in the SoCal/NoCal/Vegas/Phoenix Areas, I
> > hope to meet/meet again many of you soon.
> >
> > Fell
>
>
> Jordan. At least you know who your friends are now. I know of at least 6
> of us who knew all of what you just posted and only ONE of them who hinted
> (yesterday on RGP) that you and T were romantically involved. I'm glad you
> finally went public. I wish nothing but the best for you three (including
> Cherissa) with your business and personal ventures. I think you guys make a
> great couple, which was obvious at BARGE this year, which was when T told me
> about her impending divorce.
>
> Rick "DaVoice" Charles
Jesus Christ guys. Anyone who reads this board regularly who didn't know
what was going on is pretty dense. Or maybe I just watched to many soap
operas and talk shows in my teens. The truth is, I knew only bits and
pieces and the rest was speculation. Yes, I am certain Fell and Tanya DO
know who their friends are. To imply that I am not one of them is just
plain idiotic.
thumbers on stars, pokerchimp1 on absolute
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 15:34:42
From: A Man Beaten by Jacks
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 10:58:32 -0800, "pokerchimp" <mixthing@se.rr.com > wrote:
>Jesus Christ guys. Anyone who reads this board regularly who didn't know
>what was going on is pretty dense.
*ding ding ding*
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 12:57:30
From: brewmaster
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 12:34 PM, A Man Beaten by Jacks wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 10:58:32 -0800, "pokerchimp" <mixthing@se.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >Jesus Christ guys. Anyone who reads this board regularly who didn't know
> >what was going on is pretty dense.
>
> *ding ding ding*
That reminds me, who won the "how long will T's marriage last" pool
started by Carson? (sorry T, but you posted that situation a long time
ago, and, well, remember the posts?)
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Date: 30 Nov 21:01:40
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 1:57 PM, brewmaster wrote:
> On Nov 30 2006 12:34 PM, A Man Beaten by Jacks wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 10:58:32 -0800, "pokerchimp" wrote:
> >
> > >Jesus Christ guys. Anyone who reads this board regularly who didn't know
> > >what was going on is pretty dense.
> >
> > *ding ding ding*
>
> That reminds me, who won the "how long will T's marriage last" pool
> started by Carson? (sorry T, but you posted that situation a long time
> ago, and, well, remember the posts?)
Yeah, yeah...as if I could forget. Thanks for bringing the pool up again.
T
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 13:07:40
From: brewmaster
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 1:01 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
> On Nov 30 2006 1:57 PM, brewmaster wrote:
>
> > On Nov 30 2006 12:34 PM, A Man Beaten by Jacks wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 10:58:32 -0800, "pokerchimp" wrote:
> > >
> > > >Jesus Christ guys. Anyone who reads this board regularly who didn't know
> > > >what was going on is pretty dense.
> > >
> > > *ding ding ding*
> >
> > That reminds me, who won the "how long will T's marriage last" pool
> > started by Carson? (sorry T, but you posted that situation a long time
> > ago, and, well, remember the posts?)
>
> Yeah, yeah...as if I could forget. Thanks for bringing the pool up again.
>
> T
>
I think we're lucky Carson hasn't woken up yet. Wait until he finds this
thread.
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Date: 30 Nov 21:11:20
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 2:07 PM, brewmaster wrote:
> On Nov 30 2006 1:01 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
>
> > On Nov 30 2006 1:57 PM, brewmaster wrote:
> >
> > > On Nov 30 2006 12:34 PM, A Man Beaten by Jacks wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 10:58:32 -0800, "pokerchimp" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Jesus Christ guys. Anyone who reads this board regularly who didn't
> > > > >know
> > > > >what was going on is pretty dense.
> > > >
> > > > *ding ding ding*
> > >
> > > That reminds me, who won the "how long will T's marriage last" pool
> > > started by Carson? (sorry T, but you posted that situation a long time
> > > ago, and, well, remember the posts?)
> >
> > Yeah, yeah...as if I could forget. Thanks for bringing the pool up again.
> >
> > T
> >
>
> I think we're lucky Carson hasn't woken up yet. Wait until he finds this
> thread.
LOL, now THAT I'm already expecting. However, I must admit that who else to know
better then someone who has been through what I've been through and not just
once but I believe THREE times??
; )
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 12:32:39
From: DaVoice
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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"pokerchimp" <mixthing@se.rr.com > wrote
>
> Jesus Christ guys. Anyone who reads this board regularly who didn't know
> what was going on is pretty dense. Or maybe I just watched to many soap
> operas and talk shows in my teens. The truth is, I knew only bits and
> pieces and the rest was speculation. Yes, I am certain Fell and Tanya DO
> know who their friends are. To imply that I am not one of them is just
> plain idiotic.
>
> thumbers on stars, pokerchimp1 on absolute
Ummm... It wasn't YOU I was talking about, but whatever. Why are you always
so angry?
RC
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 12:43:12
From: pokerchimp
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 3:32 PM, DaVoice wrote:
> "pokerchimp" <mixthing@se.rr.com> wrote
>
> >
> > Jesus Christ guys. Anyone who reads this board regularly who didn't know
> > what was going on is pretty dense. Or maybe I just watched to many soap
> > operas and talk shows in my teens. The truth is, I knew only bits and
> > pieces and the rest was speculation. Yes, I am certain Fell and Tanya DO
> > know who their friends are. To imply that I am not one of them is just
> > plain idiotic.
> >
> > thumbers on stars, pokerchimp1 on absolute
>
>
> Ummm... It wasn't YOU I was talking about, but whatever. Why are you always
> so angry?
>
> RC
Not always, but more often than I like. Sorry I am overly sensative.
Just another reason I don't go out in public much.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 13:45:25
From: Raider Fan
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 2:43 PM, pokerchimp wrote:
> On Nov 30 2006 3:32 PM, DaVoice wrote:
>
> > "pokerchimp" <mixthing@se.rr.com> wrote
> >
> > >
> > > Jesus Christ guys. Anyone who reads this board regularly who didn't know
> > > what was going on is pretty dense. Or maybe I just watched to many soap
> > > operas and talk shows in my teens. The truth is, I knew only bits and
> > > pieces and the rest was speculation. Yes, I am certain Fell and Tanya DO
> > > know who their friends are. To imply that I am not one of them is just
> > > plain idiotic.
> > >
> > > thumbers on stars, pokerchimp1 on absolute
> >
> >
> > Ummm... It wasn't YOU I was talking about, but whatever. Why are you
always
> > so angry?
> >
> > RC
>
> Not always, but more often than I like. Sorry I am overly sensative.
> Just another reason I don't go out in public much.
> thumbers on stars, pokerchimp1 on absolute
Don't feel bad Chimp. I thought he was talking about you also. I wonder
who he was talking about? Brewmaster?
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 14:43:36
From: brewmaster
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 1:45 PM, Raider Fan wrote:
> On Nov 30 2006 2:43 PM, pokerchimp wrote:
>
> > On Nov 30 2006 3:32 PM, DaVoice wrote:
> >
> > > "pokerchimp" <mixthing@se.rr.com> wrote
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Jesus Christ guys. Anyone who reads this board regularly who didn't
know
> > > > what was going on is pretty dense. Or maybe I just watched to many
soap
> > > > operas and talk shows in my teens. The truth is, I knew only bits and
> > > > pieces and the rest was speculation. Yes, I am certain Fell and Tanya
DO
> > > > know who their friends are. To imply that I am not one of them is just
> > > > plain idiotic.
> > > >
> > > > thumbers on stars, pokerchimp1 on absolute
> > >
> > >
> > > Ummm... It wasn't YOU I was talking about, but whatever. Why are you
> always
> > > so angry?
> > >
> > > RC
> >
> > Not always, but more often than I like. Sorry I am overly sensative.
> > Just another reason I don't go out in public much.
> > thumbers on stars, pokerchimp1 on absolute
>
> Don't feel bad Chimp. I thought he was talking about you also. I wonder
> who he was talking about? Brewmaster?
Probably, but I only posted one little innuendo that I think only T
responded too. I'm sure it was somebody else. Definitely, definitely
somebody else. Definitely.
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Date: 30 Nov 23:21:22
From: Welshman
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 2:43 PM, brewmaster wrote:
> On Nov 30 2006 1:45 PM, Raider Fan wrote:
>
> > On Nov 30 2006 2:43 PM, pokerchimp wrote:
> >
> > > On Nov 30 2006 3:32 PM, DaVoice wrote:
> > >
> > > > "pokerchimp" wrote
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Jesus Christ guys. Anyone who reads this board regularly who didn't
> know
> > > > > what was going on is pretty dense. Or maybe I just watched to many
> soap
> > > > > operas and talk shows in my teens. The truth is, I knew only bits and
> > > > > pieces and the rest was speculation. Yes, I am certain Fell and Tanya
> DO
> > > > > know who their friends are. To imply that I am not one of them is just
> > > > > plain idiotic.
> > > > >
> > > > > thumbers on stars, pokerchimp1 on absolute
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ummm... It wasn't YOU I was talking about, but whatever. Why are you
> > always
> > > > so angry?
> > > >
> > > > RC
> > >
> > > Not always, but more often than I like. Sorry I am overly sensative.
> > > Just another reason I don't go out in public much.
> > > thumbers on stars, pokerchimp1 on absolute
> >
> > Don't feel bad Chimp. I thought he was talking about you also. I wonder
> > who he was talking about? Brewmaster?
>
> Probably, but I only posted one little innuendo that I think only T
> responded too. I'm sure it was somebody else. Definitely, definitely
> somebody else. Definitely.
It was Fell.
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 03:24:39
From: pokerchimp
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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I guess only Rick Da Voice knows who he was talking about, and apparently
he's not sharing.
On Nov 30 2006 6:21 PM, Welshman wrote:
> On Nov 30 2006 2:43 PM, brewmaster wrote:
>
> > On Nov 30 2006 1:45 PM, Raider Fan wrote:
> >
> > > On Nov 30 2006 2:43 PM, pokerchimp wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Nov 30 2006 3:32 PM, DaVoice wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > "pokerchimp" wrote
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jesus Christ guys. Anyone who reads this board regularly who didn't
> > know
> > > > > > what was going on is pretty dense. Or maybe I just watched to many
> > soap
> > > > > > operas and talk shows in my teens. The truth is, I knew only bits
and
> > > > > > pieces and the rest was speculation. Yes, I am certain Fell and
Tanya
> > DO
> > > > > > know who their friends are. To imply that I am not one of them is
just
> > > > > > plain idiotic.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > thumbers on stars, pokerchimp1 on absolute
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Ummm... It wasn't YOU I was talking about, but whatever. Why are you
> > > always
> > > > > so angry?
> > > > >
> > > > > RC
> > > >
> > > > Not always, but more often than I like. Sorry I am overly sensative.
> > > > Just another reason I don't go out in public much.
> > > > thumbers on stars, pokerchimp1 on absolute
> > >
> > > Don't feel bad Chimp. I thought he was talking about you also. I wonder
> > > who he was talking about? Brewmaster?
> >
> > Probably, but I only posted one little innuendo that I think only T
> > responded too. I'm sure it was somebody else. Definitely, definitely
> > somebody else. Definitely.
>
> It was Fell.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 17:40:34
From: Mark B \(Diputsur\)
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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"Raider Fan" <raidersgotscrewed1@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:l00444xf6t.ln2@recgroups.com...
>
> Don't feel bad Chimp. I thought he was talking about you also. I wonder
> who he was talking about? Brewmaster?
Nah, it it wasn't chimpie, then it was probably you ;-)
And if I had to guess as to why:
> I know Jordan and Tanya personally, so I wasn't go anywhere near this
> until you brought it up. The last I knew, Tanya was a married woman.
> Apparently, while it's certainly none of our business, that must not be
> the case at this time. When I read Fell's update on his blog, I wondered
> if something might be going on there. I certainly wouldn't ask.
This thread seems to be the direct result of that particular post.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 14:55:56
From: Raider Fan
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 4:40 PM, Mark B (Diputsur) wrote:
> "Raider Fan" <raidersgotscrewed1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:l00444xf6t.ln2@recgroups.com...
> >
> > Don't feel bad Chimp. I thought he was talking about you also. I wonder
> > who he was talking about? Brewmaster?
>
> Nah, it it wasn't chimpie, then it was probably you ;-)
> And if I had to guess as to why:
>
> > I know Jordan and Tanya personally, so I wasn't go anywhere near this
> > until you brought it up. The last I knew, Tanya was a married woman.
> > Apparently, while it's certainly none of our business, that must not be
> > the case at this time. When I read Fell's update on his blog, I wondered
> > if something might be going on there. I certainly wouldn't ask.
>
> This thread seems to be the direct result of that particular post.
>
> Mark
> --
> www.myspace.com/diputsur
But it couldn't be me, because I didn't know anything about it until I saw
Fell's blog. I can't keep a secret! LOL
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Date: 30 Nov 23:03:18
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 3:55 PM, Raider Fan wrote:
> On Nov 30 2006 4:40 PM, Mark B (Diputsur) wrote:
>
> > "Raider Fan" wrote in message
> > news:l00444xf6t.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > >
> > > Don't feel bad Chimp. I thought he was talking about you also. I wonder
> > > who he was talking about? Brewmaster?
> >
> > Nah, it it wasn't chimpie, then it was probably you ;-)
> > And if I had to guess as to why:
> >
> > > I know Jordan and Tanya personally, so I wasn't go anywhere near this
> > > until you brought it up. The last I knew, Tanya was a married woman.
> > > Apparently, while it's certainly none of our business, that must not be
> > > the case at this time. When I read Fell's update on his blog, I wondered
> > > if something might be going on there. I certainly wouldn't ask.
> >
> > This thread seems to be the direct result of that particular post.
> >
> > Mark
> > --
> > http://www.myspace.com/diputsur
>
> But it couldn't be me, because I didn't know anything about it until I saw
> Fell's blog. I can't keep a secret! LOL
Ahh, put the fears aside, it wasn't "anyone". We knew it had to come out, so we
went about it in the business sense first, which then didn't seem to make sense
to people, so then we also threw in more details which still doesn't seem to
make sense to some people, unless I give really good blow jobs.
; )
T
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 17:52:29
From: James L. Hankins
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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"Tanya AKA MissT74" <43084303@recpoker.com > wrote in message
news:1164927798$914214@recpoker.com...
>
>
>
> On Nov 30 2006 3:55 PM, Raider Fan wrote:
>
>> On Nov 30 2006 4:40 PM, Mark B (Diputsur) wrote:
>>
>> > "Raider Fan" wrote in message
>> > news:l00444xf6t.ln2@recgroups.com...
>> > >
>> > > Don't feel bad Chimp. I thought he was talking about you also. I
>> > > wonder
>> > > who he was talking about? Brewmaster?
>> >
>> > Nah, it it wasn't chimpie, then it was probably you ;-)
>> > And if I had to guess as to why:
>> >
>> > > I know Jordan and Tanya personally, so I wasn't go anywhere near this
>> > > until you brought it up. The last I knew, Tanya was a married woman.
>> > > Apparently, while it's certainly none of our business, that must not
>> > > be
>> > > the case at this time. When I read Fell's update on his blog, I
>> > > wondered
>> > > if something might be going on there. I certainly wouldn't ask.
>> >
>> > This thread seems to be the direct result of that particular post.
>> >
>> > Mark
>> > --
>> > http://www.myspace.com/diputsur
>>
>> But it couldn't be me, because I didn't know anything about it until I
>> saw
>> Fell's blog. I can't keep a secret! LOL
>
> Ahh, put the fears aside, it wasn't "anyone". We knew it had to come out,
> so we
> went about it in the business sense first, which then didn't seem to make
> sense
> to people, so then we also threw in more details which still doesn't seem
> to
> make sense to some people, unless I give really good blow jobs.
>
> ; )
>
> T
Suddenly, I'm interested in this thread.....
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 15:11:09
From: brewmaster
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 3:03 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
> On Nov 30 2006 3:55 PM, Raider Fan wrote:
>
> > On Nov 30 2006 4:40 PM, Mark B (Diputsur) wrote:
> >
> > > "Raider Fan" wrote in message
> > > news:l00444xf6t.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > > >
> > > > Don't feel bad Chimp. I thought he was talking about you also. I wonder
> > > > who he was talking about? Brewmaster?
> > >
> > > Nah, it it wasn't chimpie, then it was probably you ;-)
> > > And if I had to guess as to why:
> > >
> > > > I know Jordan and Tanya personally, so I wasn't go anywhere near this
> > > > until you brought it up. The last I knew, Tanya was a married woman.
> > > > Apparently, while it's certainly none of our business, that must not be
> > > > the case at this time. When I read Fell's update on his blog, I
wondered
> > > > if something might be going on there. I certainly wouldn't ask.
> > >
> > > This thread seems to be the direct result of that particular post.
> > >
> > > Mark
> > > --
> > > http://www.myspace.com/diputsur
> >
> > But it couldn't be me, because I didn't know anything about it until I saw
> > Fell's blog. I can't keep a secret! LOL
>
> Ahh, put the fears aside, it wasn't "anyone". We knew it had to come out, so
we
> went about it in the business sense first, which then didn't seem to make
sense
> to people, so then we also threw in more details which still doesn't seem to
> make sense to some people, unless I give really good blow jobs.
Well, do you? Or, er, Fell, does she?
>
> ; )
>
> T
>
>
>
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 20:04:53
From: Bill T
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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>> to people, so then we also threw in more details which still doesn't seem to
>> make sense to some people, unless I give really good blow jobs.
>
> Well, do you? Or, er, Fell, does she?
Ummm....there are no bad BJ's.
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 04:17:09
From: beerboy
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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In news:456fa907$0$1643$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com,
Bill T <wctom1@pacbell.net > typed:
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 20:31:19
From: Bill T
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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beerboy wrote:
> In news:456fa907$0$1643$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com,
> Bill T <wctom1@pacbell.net> typed:
>
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 21:26:40
From: brewmaster
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 8:31 PM, Bill T wrote:
> beerboy wrote:
> > In news:456fa907$0$1643$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com,
> > Bill T <wctom1@pacbell.net> typed:
> >
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Date: 01 Dec 22:45:08
From: Nick Wool
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Dec 1 2006 4:04 AM, Bill T wrote:
> >> to people, so then we also threw in more details which still doesn't seem
> >> to
> >> make sense to some people, unless I give really good blow jobs.
> >
> > Well, do you? Or, er, Fell, does she?
>
>
> Ummm....there are no bad BJ's.
???? You've never had you er...private part bitten by an novice before?
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Date: 02 Dec
From: Welshman
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Dec 1 2006 2:45 PM, Nick Wool wrote:
>
> On Dec 1 2006 4:04 AM, Bill T wrote:
>
> > >> to people, so then we also threw in more details which still doesn't seem
> > >> to
> > >> make sense to some people, unless I give really good blow jobs.
> > >
> > > Well, do you? Or, er, Fell, does she?
> >
> >
> > Ummm....there are no bad BJ's.
>
> ???? You've never had you er...private part bitten by an novice before?
>
Train 'em don't blame 'em.
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 15:41:42
From: Bill T
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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Nick Wool wrote:
> ???? You've never had you er...private part bitten by an novice before?
>
Nope.
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Date: 01 Dec 22:54:54
From: my cousin,my gastroentero
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Dec 1 2006 4:45 PM, Nick Wool wrote:
>
> On Dec 1 2006 4:04 AM, Bill T wrote:
>
> > >> to people, so then we also threw in more details which still doesn't seem
> > >> to
> > >> make sense to some people, unless I give really good blow jobs.
> > >
> > > Well, do you? Or, er, Fell, does she?
> >
> >
> > Ummm....there are no bad BJ's.
>
> ???? You've never had you er...private part bitten by an novice before?
>
he only uses professionals.
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 15:43:11
From: Bill T
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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my cousin wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Ummm....there are no bad BJ's.
>> ???? You've never had you er...private part bitten by an novice before?
>>
>
> he only uses professionals.
experienced amateurs and novices with natural ability.
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Date: 30 Nov 23:55:21
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 4:11 PM, brewmaster wrote:
> On Nov 30 2006 3:03 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
>
> > On Nov 30 2006 3:55 PM, Raider Fan wrote:
> >
> > > On Nov 30 2006 4:40 PM, Mark B (Diputsur) wrote:
> > >
> > > > "Raider Fan" wrote in message
> > > > news:l00444xf6t.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > > > >
> > > > > Don't feel bad Chimp. I thought he was talking about you also. I
> > > > > wonder
> > > > > who he was talking about? Brewmaster?
> > > >
> > > > Nah, it it wasn't chimpie, then it was probably you ;-)
> > > > And if I had to guess as to why:
> > > >
> > > > > I know Jordan and Tanya personally, so I wasn't go anywhere near this
> > > > > until you brought it up. The last I knew, Tanya was a married woman.
> > > > > Apparently, while it's certainly none of our business, that must not
> > > > > be
> > > > > the case at this time. When I read Fell's update on his blog, I
> wondered
> > > > > if something might be going on there. I certainly wouldn't ask.
> > > >
> > > > This thread seems to be the direct result of that particular post.
> > > >
> > > > Mark
> > > > --
> > > > http://www.myspace.com/diputsur
> > >
> > > But it couldn't be me, because I didn't know anything about it until I saw
> > > Fell's blog. I can't keep a secret! LOL
> >
> > Ahh, put the fears aside, it wasn't "anyone". We knew it had to come out, so
> we
> > went about it in the business sense first, which then didn't seem to make
> sense
> > to people, so then we also threw in more details which still doesn't seem to
> > make sense to some people, unless I give really good blow jobs.
>
> Well, do you? Or, er, Fell, does she?
Well, DUH.
; )
T
>
> >
> > ; )
> >
> > T
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 15:02:00
From: brewmaster
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 2:55 PM, Raider Fan wrote:
> On Nov 30 2006 4:40 PM, Mark B (Diputsur) wrote:
>
> > "Raider Fan" <raidersgotscrewed1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:l00444xf6t.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > >
> > > Don't feel bad Chimp. I thought he was talking about you also. I wonder
> > > who he was talking about? Brewmaster?
> >
> > Nah, it it wasn't chimpie, then it was probably you ;-)
> > And if I had to guess as to why:
> >
> > > I know Jordan and Tanya personally, so I wasn't go anywhere near this
> > > until you brought it up. The last I knew, Tanya was a married woman.
> > > Apparently, while it's certainly none of our business, that must not be
> > > the case at this time. When I read Fell's update on his blog, I wondered
> > > if something might be going on there. I certainly wouldn't ask.
> >
> > This thread seems to be the direct result of that particular post.
> >
> > Mark
> > --
> > www.myspace.com/diputsur
>
> But it couldn't be me, because I didn't know anything about it until I saw
> Fell's blog. I can't keep a secret! LOL
Well I've known since August when Cincy told me when we were sitting at
the topless pool at Caeser's (where Fell & T joined us for a drink), and I
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 13:53:11
From: pokerchimp
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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Thanx for making me feel less like a paranoid psycho :)
On Nov 30 2006 4:45 PM, Raider Fan wrote:
> On Nov 30 2006 2:43 PM, pokerchimp wrote:
>
> > On Nov 30 2006 3:32 PM, DaVoice wrote:
> >
> > > "pokerchimp" <mixthing@se.rr.com> wrote
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Jesus Christ guys. Anyone who reads this board regularly who didn't
know
> > > > what was going on is pretty dense. Or maybe I just watched to many
soap
> > > > operas and talk shows in my teens. The truth is, I knew only bits and
> > > > pieces and the rest was speculation. Yes, I am certain Fell and Tanya
DO
> > > > know who their friends are. To imply that I am not one of them is just
> > > > plain idiotic.
> > > >
> > > > thumbers on stars, pokerchimp1 on absolute
> > >
> > >
> > > Ummm... It wasn't YOU I was talking about, but whatever. Why are you
> always
> > > so angry?
> > >
> > > RC
> >
> > Not always, but more often than I like. Sorry I am overly sensative.
> > Just another reason I don't go out in public much.
> > thumbers on stars, pokerchimp1 on absolute
>
> Don't feel bad Chimp. I thought he was talking about you also. I wonder
> who he was talking about? Brewmaster?
thumbers on stars, pokerchimp1 on absolute
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 10:06:42
From: brewmaster
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 9:55 AM, DaVoice wrote:
> "FellKnight" <jordandevenport@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uab244x2ap.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > I'd like to clear up some misconceptions about my move to Kingman.
> >
> > Let's start at the beginning.
> >
> > As most of you know, Tanya and I have been good friends since the 2005
> > WSOP. We talked often throughout the year. In the summer of 2006, Tanya
> > decided that her marriage was irreconcilable, and got separated from Bill,
> > moving with Cherissa to a new home. Things were going well for them and
> > Tanya decided not to make the news public, both on her blog and on RGP.
> >
> > At the same time, I left the military to pursue a career as a poker
> > player. It started very well, with my 4th place in Costa Rica and WCOOP
> > successes, but I found that I was not enjoying the game as much as I had
> > hoped, and this was leading to poorer decisions on my part. I believe
> > that I would have rectified this in time, but then Mr. Bush stepped in.
> > With the passing of the Safe Port Act, the games where I had had the most
> > success (Pacific 15/30 and 30/60 Omaha8 and Stud) dried up completely.
> > Finding a decent game became a chore in and of itself. I had been spoiled
> > by the poker boom. All this led to a disillusionment with the game
> > (unfortunately coinciding with my ill-fated trip to Atlantic City and the
> > USPC).
> >
> > Talking with Tanya after the USPC, she mentionned how she had decided to
> > finally open this new business, RagZ for TeenZ, now that she was single
> > (Bill had nixed the idea while they were together). I asked for more
> > details, and was sold on the idea. Tanya was going to need some money to
> > help with the startup costs, and I offered to loan her the money; however,
> > after
> > some contemplation, I realized that I would much prefer to invest the
> > money and become a partner, thus hopefully securing a more prosperous
> > future for myself. I made the decision to move to Kingman, Tanya found me
> > a room to rent, and I moved down here just before Hallowe'en.
> >
> > It was around this time that I got up the nerve to ask Tanya on a date. I
> > was worried about it being "too soon", but I have skeletons in my past
> > about waiting too long and letting your love interest get away, so I took
> > the risk. I was delighted when she accepted.
> >
> > We spent most of November hard at work getting the store ready for opening
> > day. It was a whirlwind, and though I had recently left the army, I had
> > been at a desk job for several years, so this was the first honest work I
> > had done in a while :)
> >
> > I thank you all for your wishes of good luck, and your constructive
> > criticism. For those that live in the SoCal/NoCal/Vegas/Phoenix Areas, I
> > hope to meet/meet again many of you soon.
> >
> > Fell
>
>
> Jordan. At least you know who your friends are now. I know of at least 6
> of us who knew all of what you just posted and only ONE of them who hinted
> (yesterday on RGP) that you and T were romantically involved. I'm glad you
> finally went public. I wish nothing but the best for you three (including
> Cherissa) with your business and personal ventures. I think you guys make a
> great couple, which was obvious at BARGE this year, which was when T told me
> about her impending divorce.
>
> Rick "DaVoice" Charles
I had no idea how many people were "in the know" but I think everyone did
a pretty good job of keeping quiet about it. I KNEW as soon as I saw
yesterday's post that it was coming out. It had to.
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Date: 30 Nov 18:30:00
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 11:06 AM, brewmaster wrote:
> On Nov 30 2006 9:55 AM, DaVoice wrote:
>
> > "FellKnight" wrote in message
> > news:uab244x2ap.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > > I'd like to clear up some misconceptions about my move to Kingman.
> > >
> > > Let's start at the beginning.
> > >
> > > As most of you know, Tanya and I have been good friends since the 2005
> > > WSOP. We talked often throughout the year. In the summer of 2006, Tanya
> > > decided that her marriage was irreconcilable, and got separated from Bill,
> > > moving with Cherissa to a new home. Things were going well for them and
> > > Tanya decided not to make the news public, both on her blog and on RGP.
> > >
> > > At the same time, I left the military to pursue a career as a poker
> > > player. It started very well, with my 4th place in Costa Rica and WCOOP
> > > successes, but I found that I was not enjoying the game as much as I had
> > > hoped, and this was leading to poorer decisions on my part. I believe
> > > that I would have rectified this in time, but then Mr. Bush stepped in.
> > > With the passing of the Safe Port Act, the games where I had had the most
> > > success (Pacific 15/30 and 30/60 Omaha8 and Stud) dried up completely.
> > > Finding a decent game became a chore in and of itself. I had been spoiled
> > > by the poker boom. All this led to a disillusionment with the game
> > > (unfortunately coinciding with my ill-fated trip to Atlantic City and the
> > > USPC).
> > >
> > > Talking with Tanya after the USPC, she mentionned how she had decided to
> > > finally open this new business, RagZ for TeenZ, now that she was single
> > > (Bill had nixed the idea while they were together). I asked for more
> > > details, and was sold on the idea. Tanya was going to need some money to
> > > help with the startup costs, and I offered to loan her the money; however,
> > > after
> > > some contemplation, I realized that I would much prefer to invest the
> > > money and become a partner, thus hopefully securing a more prosperous
> > > future for myself. I made the decision to move to Kingman, Tanya found me
> > > a room to rent, and I moved down here just before Hallowe'en.
> > >
> > > It was around this time that I got up the nerve to ask Tanya on a date. I
> > > was worried about it being "too soon", but I have skeletons in my past
> > > about waiting too long and letting your love interest get away, so I took
> > > the risk. I was delighted when she accepted.
> > >
> > > We spent most of November hard at work getting the store ready for opening
> > > day. It was a whirlwind, and though I had recently left the army, I had
> > > been at a desk job for several years, so this was the first honest work I
> > > had done in a while :)
> > >
> > > I thank you all for your wishes of good luck, and your constructive
> > > criticism. For those that live in the SoCal/NoCal/Vegas/Phoenix Areas, I
> > > hope to meet/meet again many of you soon.
> > >
> > > Fell
> >
> >
> > Jordan. At least you know who your friends are now. I know of at least 6
> > of us who knew all of what you just posted and only ONE of them who hinted
> > (yesterday on RGP) that you and T were romantically involved. I'm glad you
> > finally went public. I wish nothing but the best for you three (including
> > Cherissa) with your business and personal ventures. I think you guys make a
> >
> > great couple, which was obvious at BARGE this year, which was when T told me
> >
> > about her impending divorce.
> >
> > Rick "DaVoice" Charles
>
> I had no idea how many people were "in the know" but I think everyone did
> a pretty good job of keeping quiet about it. I KNEW as soon as I saw
> yesterday's post that it was coming out. It had to.
The romance inclination was certainly there and we were both amazed and humbled
by our good friends of RGP, who did "sense" something (maybe even before I did
:) and yet choose to remain good friends and let us come out with it, if there
turned out to be anything to come out with, when we were ready.
Totally appreciated.
T and Fell
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 13:08:35
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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> The romance inclination was certainly there and we were both amazed and
humbled
> by our good friends of RGP, who did "sense" something (maybe even before I
did
> :) and yet choose to remain good friends and let us come out with it, if
there
> turned out to be anything to come out with, when we were ready.
I thought it was a huge coincidence when Fell told me the other day that
he moved to Kingman. I asked him if he ran into you yet.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 20:05:42
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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"Tanya AKA MissT74" <43084303@recpoker.com > wrote in message
news:1164911400$913996@recpoker.com...
>
>
> The romance inclination was certainly there and we were both amazed and
> humbled
> by our good friends of RGP, who did "sense" something (maybe even before I
> did
> :) and yet choose to remain good friends and let us come out with it, if
> there
> turned out to be anything to come out with, when we were ready.
>
> Totally appreciated.
>
> T and Fell
>
That's cute, she signed his name for him. How romantic.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 12:28:24
From: Raider Fan
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 2:05 PM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
>
>
> That's cute, she signed his name for him. How romantic.
>
> -Paul Popinjay
Change your sig to PP and Ramashiva.
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Date: 30 Nov 20:57:37
From: Super Steamer
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 12:28 PM, Raider Fan wrote:
> On Nov 30 2006 2:05 PM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
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> >
> >
> > That's cute, she signed his name for him. How romantic.
> >
> > -Paul Popinjay
>
> Change your sig to PP and Ramashiva.
lol
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 20:44:41
From: Travel
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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Raider Fan;1001603 Wrote:
> On Nov 30 2006 2:05 PM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
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> >
> >
> > That's cute, she signed his name for him. How romantic.
> >
> > -Paul Popinjay
>
> Change your sig to PP and Ramashiva.
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 09:40:09
From: Randy Hudson
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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In article <qQGbh.57889$si3.48164@tornado.socal.rr.com >,
Paul Popinjay <paulg123[nospam]@earthlink.net > wrote:
> That's cute, she signed his name for him. How romantic.
Like Sklansky, speaking for himself and Mason Malmuth.
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Date: 30 Nov 22:18:13
From: Welshman
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 9:55 AM, DaVoice wrote:
> "FellKnight" wrote in message
> news:uab244x2ap.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > I'd like to clear up some misconceptions about my move to Kingman.
> >
> > Let's start at the beginning.
> >
> > As most of you know, Tanya and I have been good friends since the 2005
> > WSOP. We talked often throughout the year. In the summer of 2006, Tanya
> > decided that her marriage was irreconcilable, and got separated from Bill,
> > moving with Cherissa to a new home. Things were going well for them and
> > Tanya decided not to make the news public, both on her blog and on RGP.
> >
> > At the same time, I left the military to pursue a career as a poker
> > player. It started very well, with my 4th place in Costa Rica and WCOOP
> > successes, but I found that I was not enjoying the game as much as I had
> > hoped, and this was leading to poorer decisions on my part. I believe
> > that I would have rectified this in time, but then Mr. Bush stepped in.
> > With the passing of the Safe Port Act, the games where I had had the most
> > success (Pacific 15/30 and 30/60 Omaha8 and Stud) dried up completely.
> > Finding a decent game became a chore in and of itself. I had been spoiled
> > by the poker boom. All this led to a disillusionment with the game
> > (unfortunately coinciding with my ill-fated trip to Atlantic City and the
> > USPC).
> >
> > Talking with Tanya after the USPC, she mentionned how she had decided to
> > finally open this new business, RagZ for TeenZ, now that she was single
> > (Bill had nixed the idea while they were together). I asked for more
> > details, and was sold on the idea. Tanya was going to need some money to
> > help with the startup costs, and I offered to loan her the money; however,
> > after
> > some contemplation, I realized that I would much prefer to invest the
> > money and become a partner, thus hopefully securing a more prosperous
> > future for myself. I made the decision to move to Kingman, Tanya found me
> > a room to rent, and I moved down here just before Hallowe'en.
> >
> > It was around this time that I got up the nerve to ask Tanya on a date. I
> > was worried about it being "too soon", but I have skeletons in my past
> > about waiting too long and letting your love interest get away, so I took
> > the risk. I was delighted when she accepted.
> >
> > We spent most of November hard at work getting the store ready for opening
> > day. It was a whirlwind, and though I had recently left the army, I had
> > been at a desk job for several years, so this was the first honest work I
> > had done in a while :)
> >
> > I thank you all for your wishes of good luck, and your constructive
> > criticism. For those that live in the SoCal/NoCal/Vegas/Phoenix Areas, I
> > hope to meet/meet again many of you soon.
> >
> > Fell
>
>
> Jordan. At least you know who your friends are now. I know of at least 6
> of us who knew all of what you just posted and only ONE of them who hinted
> (yesterday on RGP) that you and T were romantically involved. I'm glad you
> finally went public. I wish nothing but the best for you three (including
> Cherissa) with your business and personal ventures. I think you guys make a
> great couple, which was obvious at BARGE this year, which was when T told me
> about her impending divorce.
>
> Rick "DaVoice" Charles
I thought it was Fell himself who dropped the biggest hint when he said in a
reply to someone that he had moved to Kingman for both buisiness & love or some
such thing.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 09:35:52
From: NeverMe
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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I know both of you have a lot of gamble in you, but this is
different....more than a tourney buyin involed.
Well good luck to both of you in that ever direction you take.
I can see the first BIG fight...when she knocks Fell out on the bubble
:)
McSock
FellKnight wrote:
> I'd like to clear up some misconceptions about my move to Kingman.
>
> Let's start at the beginning.
>
> As most of you know, Tanya and I have been good friends since the 2005
> WSOP. We talked often throughout the year. In the summer of 2006, Tanya
> decided that her marriage was irreconcilable, and got separated from Bill,
> moving with Cherissa to a new home. Things were going well for them and
> Tanya decided not to make the news public, both on her blog and on RGP.
>
> At the same time, I left the military to pursue a career as a poker
> player. It started very well, with my 4th place in Costa Rica and WCOOP
> successes, but I found that I was not enjoying the game as much as I had
> hoped, and this was leading to poorer decisions on my part. I believe
> that I would have rectified this in time, but then Mr. Bush stepped in.
> With the passing of the Safe Port Act, the games where I had had the most
> success (Pacific 15/30 and 30/60 Omaha8 and Stud) dried up completely.
> Finding a decent game became a chore in and of itself. I had been spoiled
> by the poker boom. All this led to a disillusionment with the game
> (unfortunately coinciding with my ill-fated trip to Atlantic City and the
> USPC).
>
> Talking with Tanya after the USPC, she mentionned how she had decided to
> finally open this new business, RagZ for TeenZ, now that she was single
> (Bill had nixed the idea while they were together). I asked for more
> details, and was sold on the idea. Tanya was going to need some money to
> help with the startup costs, and I offered to loan her the money; however,
> after
> some contemplation, I realized that I would much prefer to invest the
> money and become a partner, thus hopefully securing a more prosperous
> future for myself. I made the decision to move to Kingman, Tanya found me
> a room to rent, and I moved down here just before Hallowe'en.
>
> It was around this time that I got up the nerve to ask Tanya on a date. I
> was worried about it being "too soon", but I have skeletons in my past
> about waiting too long and letting your love interest get away, so I took
> the risk. I was delighted when she accepted.
>
> We spent most of November hard at work getting the store ready for opening
> day. It was a whirlwind, and though I had recently left the army, I had
> been at a desk job for several years, so this was the first honest work I
> had done in a while :)
>
> I thank you all for your wishes of good luck, and your constructive
> criticism. For those that live in the SoCal/NoCal/Vegas/Phoenix Areas, I
> hope to meet/meet again many of you soon.
>
> Fell
>
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 10:33:22
From: FellKnight
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 10:35 AM, NeverMe wrote:
> I know both of you have a lot of gamble in you, but this is
> different....more than a tourney buyin involed.
> Well good luck to both of you in that ever direction you take.
>
> I can see the first BIG fight...when she knocks Fell out on the bubble
> :)
>
> McSock
Or vice versa... a bad situation for all involved ;)
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 09:20:37
From: Bill Ricardi
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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FellKnight wrote:
> I'd like to clear up some misconceptions about my move to Kingman.
Best of luck to you both!
And I imagine that most of the nay-sayers are re-stating third hand,
old assed concepts of both business and relationships. Unless they've
been in business with people they're close with, they don't have a
clue.
In the 21st century, the concepts of business and relationships have
gone through such a huge transformation, a whole lot of arrangements
can work that would have been poo-pooed back in the 80's. The concept
of a family business no longer means you have to be married with a
garage and 2.5 children.
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Date: 01 Dec 22:39:52
From: Nick Wool
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 5:20 PM, Bill Ricardi wrote:
> FellKnight wrote:
> > I'd like to clear up some misconceptions about my move to Kingman.
>
>
> Best of luck to you both!
>
> And I imagine that most of the nay-sayers are re-stating third hand,
> old assed concepts of both business and relationships. Unless they've
> been in business with people they're close with, they don't have a
> clue.
I have, and it really is not a good idea. Yes, it can work, but it is as likely
as prefect runners for a royal to beat quad aces.
Husband and wife teams fare slightly little better than new relationships, but
still bloody hard. Probably talking about a 2 outter here. I should know, I
am on my second wife/business partner.
> In the 21st century, the concepts of business and relationships have
> gone through such a huge transformation, a whole lot of arrangements
> can work that would have been poo-pooed back in the 80's. The concept
> of a family business no longer means you have to be married with a
> garage and 2.5 children.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 09:05:33
From: JohnnyYooper
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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when will the 'ragz 4 teenz' web site be up?
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 08:52:35
From: GambleAB
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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It shocks me to no end how much some people want to make all of their
private life public.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 10:29:03
From: FellKnight
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 9:52 AM, GambleAB wrote:
> It shocks me to no end how much some people want to make all of their
> private life public.
It shocks me to no end how people like you never ever post to RGP except
when it has to do with me. You disappear for months at a time, but when
there is a thread about me, BOOM, there you are. Kinda sad, really.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 10:38:33
From: GambleAB
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 11:29 AM, FellKnight wrote:
> Kinda sad, really.
>
No, "kinda sad" would be posting your entire life on the internet to try
to garner accolades from faceless e-friends. That, roughly, would be
"kinda sad".
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Date: 30 Nov 22:16:17
From: Porsche_Dan
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 12:38 PM, GambleAB wrote:
> On Nov 30 2006 11:29 AM, FellKnight wrote:
>
> > Kinda sad, really.
> No, "kinda sad" would be posting your entire life on the internet to try
> to garner accolades from faceless e-friends. That, roughly, would be
> "kinda sad".
Well quite a few other bloggers might disagree. Say maybe Daniel Negreanu and
Tucker Max to name two.
You have a vendetta against Fell. Just admit it and move on.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 15:33:20
From: A Man Beaten by Jacks
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 10:38:33 -0800, "GambleAB" <a1664@webnntp.invalid > wrote:
>On Nov 30 2006 11:29 AM, FellKnight wrote:
>> Kinda sad, really.
>No, "kinda sad" would be posting your entire life on the internet to try
>to garner accolades from faceless e-friends. That, roughly, would be
>"kinda sad".
Perhaps Usenet itself is "kinda sad," but I've never seen a newsgroup where
similar things don't happen.
For that matter, I've never seen a bar or social club or mailing list or
gathering place of any kind where it doesn't.
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Date: 30 Nov 19:39:28
From: my cousin,my gastroentero
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 12:38 PM, GambleAB wrote:
> On Nov 30 2006 11:29 AM, FellKnight wrote:
>
> > Kinda sad, really.
> >
>
>
> No, "kinda sad" would be posting your entire life on the internet to try
> to garner accolades from faceless e-friends. That, roughly, would be
> "kinda sad".
i agree, it's much cooler to post like i don't know, hand histories where you
say something clever to someone in chat to show your friends how cool and witty
you are. Or actually it's much cooler to let everyone know when you've won a
tournament so that fanboys can stroke your ego, or to rip faceless strangers a
new asshole when they suck out on you on the computer in chat box tough guy
land, or ummmm, to name drop about which "pro" poker players you are friends
with, or ummmmm, to add nothing of value to a place except for dropping by to
rip someone you have a personal beef with.
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Date: 01 Dec
From: jd00123
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 1:39 PM, my cousin,my gastroentero wrote:
>
>
> On Nov 30 2006 12:38 PM, GambleAB wrote:
>
> > On Nov 30 2006 11:29 AM, FellKnight wrote:
> >
> > > Kinda sad, really.
> > >
> >
> >
> > No, "kinda sad" would be posting your entire life on the internet to try
> > to garner accolades from faceless e-friends. That, roughly, would be
> > "kinda sad".
>
>
>
> i agree, it's much cooler to post like i don't know, hand histories where you
> say something clever to someone in chat to show your friends how cool and
> witty
> you are. Or actually it's much cooler to let everyone know when you've won a
> tournament so that fanboys can stroke your ego, or to rip faceless strangers a
> new asshole when they suck out on you on the computer in chat box tough guy
> land, or ummmm, to name drop about which "pro" poker players you are friends
> with, or ummmmm, to add nothing of value to a place except for dropping by to
> rip someone you have a personal beef with.
>
That wasnt Gamble. Those are "friends" of his who take over the tournaments for
him. .........lol. Just ask Arlo, Gamble is very mature and on the ball.......
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Date: 30 Nov 17:30:51
From: Porsche_Dan
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It shocks me to no end at how illiterate some people are.
"all" of their private life is not public, only what they care to share. And if
that "shocks you to no end" then you truly are naive.
What amuses me is how you and ChrisA jump on Fell Knight threads with negative
comments like clock work. Care to share with us the real reason why that is all
you post on RGP lately? Surely you have better things to spend your time on?
On Nov 30 2006 8:52 AM, GambleAB wrote:
> It shocks me to no end how much some people want to make all of their
> private life public.
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Date: 30 Nov 18:56:29
From: Chris Argento
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On Nov 30 2006 12:30 PM, Porsche_Dan wrote:
>
> It shocks me to no end at how illiterate some people are.
>
> "all" of their private life is not public, only what they care to share. And
> if
> that "shocks you to no end" then you truly are naive.
>
> What amuses me is how you and ChrisA jump on Fell Knight threads with negative
> comments like clock work. Care to share with us the real reason why that is
> all
> you post on RGP lately? Surely you have better things to spend your time on?
>
I can only speak for myself, but when I post to RGP, it's because I disagree
with something or am curious as to the reasoning behind something. I'm just not
the type of person who would post an "I agree" or "Way to go!" because it seems
like a waste of my time and energy. As to why I posted in this specific thread,
there is a more precise answer but I don't think it's really cool to talk about
it, so I'll just say that the general reason I post in threads that have to do
with Fell (or previously CincinnatiKid) is due to the fact that I hardly ever
read RGP so when I do, I tend to just read the threads with the most replies
because I assume they are the most interesting. It seems that Fell/Tanya/Cincy
are disproportionately involved in these threads. But reading back through this
thread and my responses, I don't think I was negative anywhere, just curious as
to the reasoning of a few things.
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Date: 30 Nov 19:57:10
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 11:56 AM, Chris Argento wrote:
>
>
>
> On Nov 30 2006 12:30 PM, Porsche_Dan wrote:
>
> >
> > It shocks me to no end at how illiterate some people are.
> >
> > "all" of their private life is not public, only what they care to share.
> > And
> > if
> > that "shocks you to no end" then you truly are naive.
> >
> > What amuses me is how you and ChrisA jump on Fell Knight threads with
> > negative
> > comments like clock work. Care to share with us the real reason why that is
> > all
> > you post on RGP lately? Surely you have better things to spend your time on?
> >
> >
>
> I can only speak for myself, but when I post to RGP, it's because I disagree
> with something or am curious as to the reasoning behind something. I'm just
> not
> the type of person who would post an "I agree" or "Way to go!" because it
> seems
> like a waste of my time and energy. As to why I posted in this specific
> thread,
> there is a more precise answer but I don't think it's really cool to talk
> about
> it, so I'll just say that the general reason I post in threads that have to do
> with Fell (or previously CincinnatiKid) is due to the fact that I hardly ever
> read RGP so when I do, I tend to just read the threads with the most replies
> because I assume they are the most interesting. It seems that
> Fell/Tanya/Cincy
> are disproportionately involved in these threads. But reading back through
> this
> thread and my responses, I don't think I was negative anywhere, just curious
> as
> to the reasoning of a few things.
I have to agree, I think I may have met you in person, but I certainly have no
"beef" with you or Aaron. I certainly am not the best of friends with either one
of you, but I don't feel that anything you said in any of your posts was
negative, but then again I don't have the personal history that Fell has with
you guys.
T
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 10:32:54
From: FellKnight
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 10:30 AM, Porsche_Dan wrote:
> It shocks me to no end at how illiterate some people are.
>
> "all" of their private life is not public, only what they care to share.
And if
> that "shocks you to no end" then you truly are naive.
>
> What amuses me is how you and ChrisA jump on Fell Knight threads with
negative
> comments like clock work. Care to share with us the real reason why that is
all
> you post on RGP lately? Surely you have better things to spend your time on?
lol... Great minds...
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 09:39:31
From: Raider Fan
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 11:30 AM, Porsche_Dan wrote:
>
> What amuses me is how you and ChrisA jump on Fell Knight threads with
negative
> comments like clock work.
>
I would suggest that you not get in the middle of that action. Gamble,
Chris, and Fell are all good people with a little bit of history. I for
one will not take sides.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 09:44:42
From: brewmaster
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 9:39 AM, Raider Fan wrote:
> On Nov 30 2006 11:30 AM, Porsche_Dan wrote:
>
> >
> > What amuses me is how you and ChrisA jump on Fell Knight threads with
> negative
> > comments like clock work.
> >
>
> I would suggest that you not get in the middle of that action. Gamble,
> Chris, and Fell are all good people with a little bit of history. I for
> one will not take sides.
It has all been posted here before anyway, just do a bit of google
searching and you can find all the answers you need. I don't know Chris,
but I consider both Aaron and Jordan to be friends.
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Date: 30 Nov 18:36:49
From: Chris Argento
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 12:44 PM, brewmaster wrote:
> On Nov 30 2006 9:39 AM, Raider Fan wrote:
>
> > On Nov 30 2006 11:30 AM, Porsche_Dan wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > What amuses me is how you and ChrisA jump on Fell Knight threads with
> > negative
> > > comments like clock work.
> > >
> >
> > I would suggest that you not get in the middle of that action. Gamble,
> > Chris, and Fell are all good people with a little bit of history. I for
> > one will not take sides.
>
> It has all been posted here before anyway, just do a bit of google
> searching and you can find all the answers you need. I don't know Chris,
> but I consider both Aaron and Jordan to be friends.
We actually met. Day 1A of the WSOP, I met you and your girlfriend I guess it
was in the Rio parking lot. I was walking in with Gank and we saw you two for a
couple of minutes. I guess I didnt introduce myself that day.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 10:53:52
From: brewmaster
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 10:36 AM, Chris Argento wrote:
> On Nov 30 2006 12:44 PM, brewmaster wrote:
>
> > On Nov 30 2006 9:39 AM, Raider Fan wrote:
> >
> > > On Nov 30 2006 11:30 AM, Porsche_Dan wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > What amuses me is how you and ChrisA jump on Fell Knight threads with
> > > negative
> > > > comments like clock work.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I would suggest that you not get in the middle of that action. Gamble,
> > > Chris, and Fell are all good people with a little bit of history. I for
> > > one will not take sides.
> >
> > It has all been posted here before anyway, just do a bit of google
> > searching and you can find all the answers you need. I don't know Chris,
> > but I consider both Aaron and Jordan to be friends.
>
> We actually met. Day 1A of the WSOP, I met you and your girlfriend I guess
it
> was in the Rio parking lot. I was walking in with Gank and we saw you two
for a
> couple of minutes. I guess I didnt introduce myself that day.
Oh, that was you? LOL, I had no idea. Nice to meet you.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 08:54:23
From: mo_charles
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> It shocks me to no end how much some people want to make all of their
> private life public.
okay, but what'd you have for dinner last night?
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Date: 01 Dec
From: arlo payne
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 9:52 AM, GambleAB wrote:
> It shocks me to no end how much some people want to make all of their
> private life public.
Hell I have worked for years and years making my public life private and I am
not kidding.
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Date: 30 Nov 16:24:30
From: Welshman
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 29 2006 10:46 PM, FellKnight wrote:
> I'd like to clear up some misconceptions about my move to Kingman.
>
> Let's start at the beginning.
>
> As most of you know, Tanya and I have been good friends since the 2005
> WSOP. We talked often throughout the year. In the summer of 2006, Tanya
> decided that her marriage was irreconcilable, and got separated from Bill,
> moving with Cherissa to a new home. Things were going well for them and
> Tanya decided not to make the news public, both on her blog and on RGP.
>
> At the same time, I left the military to pursue a career as a poker
> player. It started very well, with my 4th place in Costa Rica and WCOOP
> successes, but I found that I was not enjoying the game as much as I had
> hoped, and this was leading to poorer decisions on my part. I believe
> that I would have rectified this in time, but then Mr. Bush stepped in.
> With the passing of the Safe Port Act, the games where I had had the most
> success (Pacific 15/30 and 30/60 Omaha8 and Stud) dried up completely.
> Finding a decent game became a chore in and of itself. I had been spoiled
> by the poker boom. All this led to a disillusionment with the game
> (unfortunately coinciding with my ill-fated trip to Atlantic City and the
> USPC).
>
> Talking with Tanya after the USPC, she mentionned how she had decided to
> finally open this new business, RagZ for TeenZ, now that she was single
> (Bill had nixed the idea while they were together). I asked for more
> details, and was sold on the idea. Tanya was going to need some money to
> help with the startup costs, and I offered to loan her the money; however,
> after
> some contemplation, I realized that I would much prefer to invest the
> money and become a partner, thus hopefully securing a more prosperous
> future for myself. I made the decision to move to Kingman, Tanya found me
> a room to rent, and I moved down here just before Hallowe'en.
>
> It was around this time that I got up the nerve to ask Tanya on a date. I
> was worried about it being "too soon", but I have skeletons in my past
> about waiting too long and letting your love interest get away, so I took
> the risk. I was delighted when she accepted.
>
> We spent most of November hard at work getting the store ready for opening
> day. It was a whirlwind, and though I had recently left the army, I had
> been at a desk job for several years, so this was the first honest work I
> had done in a while :)
>
> I thank you all for your wishes of good luck, and your constructive
> criticism. For those that live in the SoCal/NoCal/Vegas/Phoenix Areas, I
> hope to meet/meet again many of you soon.
>
> Fell
I hope everything works out on both fronts. Hopefully see you both sometime
after xmas.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 09:16:46
From: Un_secreto
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I'm putting the over/under line at 4 months. :-0
On Nov 30 2006 4:24 PM, Welshman wrote:
> On Nov 29 2006 10:46 PM, FellKnight wrote:
>
> > I'd like to clear up some misconceptions about my move to Kingman.
> >
> > Let's start at the beginning.
> >
> > As most of you know, Tanya and I have been good friends since the 2005
> > WSOP. We talked often throughout the year. In the summer of 2006, Tanya
> > decided that her marriage was irreconcilable, and got separated from Bill,
> > moving with Cherissa to a new home. Things were going well for them and
> > Tanya decided not to make the news public, both on her blog and on RGP.
> >
> > At the same time, I left the military to pursue a career as a poker
> > player. It started very well, with my 4th place in Costa Rica and WCOOP
> > successes, but I found that I was not enjoying the game as much as I had
> > hoped, and this was leading to poorer decisions on my part. I believe
> > that I would have rectified this in time, but then Mr. Bush stepped in.
> > With the passing of the Safe Port Act, the games where I had had the most
> > success (Pacific 15/30 and 30/60 Omaha8 and Stud) dried up completely.
> > Finding a decent game became a chore in and of itself. I had been spoiled
> > by the poker boom. All this led to a disillusionment with the game
> > (unfortunately coinciding with my ill-fated trip to Atlantic City and the
> > USPC).
> >
> > Talking with Tanya after the USPC, she mentionned how she had decided to
> > finally open this new business, RagZ for TeenZ, now that she was single
> > (Bill had nixed the idea while they were together). I asked for more
> > details, and was sold on the idea. Tanya was going to need some money to
> > help with the startup costs, and I offered to loan her the money; however,
> > after
> > some contemplation, I realized that I would much prefer to invest the
> > money and become a partner, thus hopefully securing a more prosperous
> > future for myself. I made the decision to move to Kingman, Tanya found me
> > a room to rent, and I moved down here just before Hallowe'en.
> >
> > It was around this time that I got up the nerve to ask Tanya on a date. I
> > was worried about it being "too soon", but I have skeletons in my past
> > about waiting too long and letting your love interest get away, so I took
> > the risk. I was delighted when she accepted.
> >
> > We spent most of November hard at work getting the store ready for opening
> > day. It was a whirlwind, and though I had recently left the army, I had
> > been at a desk job for several years, so this was the first honest work I
> > had done in a while :)
> >
> > I thank you all for your wishes of good luck, and your constructive
> > criticism. For those that live in the SoCal/NoCal/Vegas/Phoenix Areas, I
> > hope to meet/meet again many of you soon.
> >
> > Fell
>
> I hope everything works out on both fronts. Hopefully see you both sometime
> after xmas.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 07:37:46
From: Bronzedodger
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Good luck - I hope both personal and business sides of the equation work
out.
Maybe an over/under on when you open your first location in Manhattan? :-)
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 10:27:56
From: Stephen Jacobs
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"FellKnight" <jordandevenport@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:uab244x2ap.ln2@recgroups.com...
> I'd like to clear up some misconceptions about my move to Kingman.....
You be good to my girl.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 10:21:45
From: FellKnight
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On Nov 30 2006 8:27 AM, Stephen Jacobs wrote:
> "FellKnight" <jordandevenport@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uab244x2ap.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > I'd like to clear up some misconceptions about my move to Kingman.....
>
> You be good to my girl.
Yessir.
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Date: 30 Nov 16:03:20
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
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On Nov 30 2006 8:28 AM, Stephen Jacobs wrote:
> "FellKnight" wrote in message
> news:uab244x2ap.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > I'd like to clear up some misconceptions about my move to Kingman.....
>
> You be good to my girl.
*smooches*
T
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 07:17:31
From: Grip
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Awesome. Best wishes.
G
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Date: 30 Nov 15:08:30
From: philmcmk
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Good luck to you both
Phil Mc
On Nov 30 2006 6:46 AM, FellKnight wrote:
> I'd like to clear up some misconceptions about my move to Kingman.
>
> Let's start at the beginning.
>
> As most of you know, Tanya and I have been good friends since the 2005
> WSOP. We talked often throughout the year. In the summer of 2006, Tanya
> decided that her marriage was irreconcilable, and got separated from Bill,
> moving with Cherissa to a new home. Things were going well for them and
> Tanya decided not to make the news public, both on her blog and on RGP.
>
> At the same time, I left the military to pursue a career as a poker
> player. It started very well, with my 4th place in Costa Rica and WCOOP
> successes, but I found that I was not enjoying the game as much as I had
> hoped, and this was leading to poorer decisions on my part. I believe
> that I would have rectified this in time, but then Mr. Bush stepped in.
> With the passing of the Safe Port Act, the games where I had had the most
> success (Pacific 15/30 and 30/60 Omaha8 and Stud) dried up completely.
> Finding a decent game became a chore in and of itself. I had been spoiled
> by the poker boom. All this led to a disillusionment with the game
> (unfortunately coinciding with my ill-fated trip to Atlantic City and the
> USPC).
>
> Talking with Tanya after the USPC, she mentionned how she had decided to
> finally open this new business, RagZ for TeenZ, now that she was single
> (Bill had nixed the idea while they were together). I asked for more
> details, and was sold on the idea. Tanya was going to need some money to
> help with the startup costs, and I offered to loan her the money; however,
> after
> some contemplation, I realized that I would much prefer to invest the
> money and become a partner, thus hopefully securing a more prosperous
> future for myself. I made the decision to move to Kingman, Tanya found me
> a room to rent, and I moved down here just before Hallowe'en.
>
> It was around this time that I got up the nerve to ask Tanya on a date. I
> was worried about it being "too soon", but I have skeletons in my past
> about waiting too long and letting your love interest get away, so I took
> the risk. I was delighted when she accepted.
>
> We spent most of November hard at work getting the store ready for opening
> day. It was a whirlwind, and though I had recently left the army, I had
> been at a desk job for several years, so this was the first honest work I
> had done in a while :)
>
> I thank you all for your wishes of good luck, and your constructive
> criticism. For those that live in the SoCal/NoCal/Vegas/Phoenix Areas, I
> hope to meet/meet again many of you soon.
>
> Fell
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 06:29:45
From: brewmaster
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Well, there it is. Jordan, you know I like both of you, and am happy for
you.
This thread could well surpass the 100 mark. I can't wait to see what
Gary G and Arlo have to say about it. Remember the thread when they were
guessing the over/under on how long T's marriage would last? I think this
thread will rapidly degenerate from well wishes...unfortunately.
Anyway, I'll see you again soon Jordan, and hope all goes well with the
new life.
On Nov 29 2006 10:46 PM, FellKnight wrote:
> I'd like to clear up some misconceptions about my move to Kingman.
>
> Let's start at the beginning.
>
> As most of you know, Tanya and I have been good friends since the 2005
> WSOP. We talked often throughout the year. In the summer of 2006, Tanya
> decided that her marriage was irreconcilable, and got separated from Bill,
> moving with Cherissa to a new home. Things were going well for them and
> Tanya decided not to make the news public, both on her blog and on RGP.
>
> At the same time, I left the military to pursue a career as a poker
> player. It started very well, with my 4th place in Costa Rica and WCOOP
> successes, but I found that I was not enjoying the game as much as I had
> hoped, and this was leading to poorer decisions on my part. I believe
> that I would have rectified this in time, but then Mr. Bush stepped in.
> With the passing of the Safe Port Act, the games where I had had the most
> success (Pacific 15/30 and 30/60 Omaha8 and Stud) dried up completely.
> Finding a decent game became a chore in and of itself. I had been spoiled
> by the poker boom. All this led to a disillusionment with the game
> (unfortunately coinciding with my ill-fated trip to Atlantic City and the
> USPC).
>
> Talking with Tanya after the USPC, she mentionned how she had decided to
> finally open this new business, RagZ for TeenZ, now that she was single
> (Bill had nixed the idea while they were together). I asked for more
> details, and was sold on the idea. Tanya was going to need some money to
> help with the startup costs, and I offered to loan her the money; however,
> after
> some contemplation, I realized that I would much prefer to invest the
> money and become a partner, thus hopefully securing a more prosperous
> future for myself. I made the decision to move to Kingman, Tanya found me
> a room to rent, and I moved down here just before Hallowe'en.
>
> It was around this time that I got up the nerve to ask Tanya on a date. I
> was worried about it being "too soon", but I have skeletons in my past
> about waiting too long and letting your love interest get away, so I took
> the risk. I was delighted when she accepted.
>
> We spent most of November hard at work getting the store ready for opening
> day. It was a whirlwind, and though I had recently left the army, I had
> been at a desk job for several years, so this was the first honest work I
> had done in a while :)
>
> I thank you all for your wishes of good luck, and your constructive
> criticism. For those that live in the SoCal/NoCal/Vegas/Phoenix Areas, I
> hope to meet/meet again many of you soon.
>
> Fell
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 09:10:31
From: tictoe
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FellKnight wrote:
...
> I thank you all for your wishes of good luck, and your constructive
> criticism. For those that live in the SoCal/NoCal/Vegas/Phoenix Areas, I
> hope to meet/meet again many of you soon.
sweet! good luck to both/all of you! :)
tictoe
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 05:52:42
From: ChrisBrown
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This post is ridiculous. It's called a private life for a reason.
Tanya wasn't successful before Bill. Now Tanya has left Bill and is
pursuing a business that Bill thought was a bad idea. Bill didn't like
gambling. However Tanya's impulsive ex-gambler friend with a crush on her
thinks it's a good idea and is dumping his money into the venture hoping
to 'get rich quick'. sounds like a recipe for disaster. It's amazing
what a lack of pussy will do to a person.
Tanya already has a successful business, if she really thought this idea
of hers was great why would she want to split it?
I hope Tanya has someone competent running her other business, otherwise
she's setting herself up to go back to broke.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 10:21:21
From: FellKnight
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On Nov 30 2006 6:52 AM, ChrisBrown wrote:
> It's amazing what a lack of pussy will do to a person.
Too true... incidentally, how long has it been since you have been
thoroughly fucked?
:)
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 10:39:33
From: ChrisBrown
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On Nov 30 2006 12:21 PM, FellKnight wrote:
> On Nov 30 2006 6:52 AM, ChrisBrown wrote:
>
> > It's amazing what a lack of pussy will do to a person.
>
> Too true... incidentally, how long has it been since you have been
> thoroughly fucked?
I don't know, how long have I been married?
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 10:50:17
From: FellKnight
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On Nov 30 2006 11:39 AM, ChrisBrown wrote:
> On Nov 30 2006 12:21 PM, FellKnight wrote:
>
> > On Nov 30 2006 6:52 AM, ChrisBrown wrote:
> >
> > > It's amazing what a lack of pussy will do to a person.
> >
> > Too true... incidentally, how long has it been since you have been
> > thoroughly fucked?
>
>
> I don't know, how long have I been married?
My point exactly ;)
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Date: 30 Nov 18:42:01
From: Porsche_Dan
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On Nov 30 2006 12:21 PM, FellKnight wrote:
> On Nov 30 2006 6:52 AM, ChrisBrown wrote:
>
> > It's amazing what a lack of pussy will do to a person.
>
> Too true... incidentally, how long has it been since you have been
> thoroughly fucked?
>
> :)
>
> Fell
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> Email: fellknight at gmail dot com
Just about everytime I play online poker if you must know.
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 04:30:45
From: xyious
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On Nov 30 2006 7:42 PM, Porsche_Dan wrote:
> On Nov 30 2006 12:21 PM, FellKnight wrote:
>
> > On Nov 30 2006 6:52 AM, ChrisBrown wrote:
> >
> > > It's amazing what a lack of pussy will do to a person.
> >
> > Too true... incidentally, how long has it been since you have been
> > thoroughly fucked?
> >
> > :)
> >
> > Fell
> > --
> > Website: http://www.fellknight.com
> > Email: fellknight at gmail dot com
>
> Just about everytime I play online poker if you must know.
that doesn't really take the pressure off ....
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Date: 30 Nov 15:16:30
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
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On Nov 30 2006 6:52 AM, ChrisBrown wrote:
> This post is ridiculous. It's called a private life for a reason.
>
> Tanya wasn't successful before Bill. Now Tanya has left Bill and is
> pursuing a business that Bill thought was a bad idea. Bill didn't like
> gambling. However Tanya's impulsive ex-gambler friend with a crush on her
> thinks it's a good idea and is dumping his money into the venture hoping
> to 'get rich quick'. sounds like a recipe for disaster. It's amazing
> what a lack of pussy will do to a person.
>
> Tanya already has a successful business, if she really thought this idea
> of hers was great why would she want to split it?
>
> I hope Tanya has someone competent running her other business, otherwise
> she's setting herself up to go back to broke.
I do. That's always been my goal, to start businesses, get them running
smoothly, then hire someone to take over and run them for me. This is what
entrepeneurs do, that is what I am. I have so many other ideas and interests, I
can't wait to get to them all!
I will be a millionaire by the time I'm 40. That is my goal, and we all know you
can't meet goals if you don't make them.
: )
T
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 09:16:03
From: pokerchimp
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On Nov 30 2006 10:16 AM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
> On Nov 30 2006 6:52 AM, ChrisBrown wrote:
>
> > This post is ridiculous. It's called a private life for a reason.
> >
> > Tanya wasn't successful before Bill. Now Tanya has left Bill and is
> > pursuing a business that Bill thought was a bad idea. Bill didn't like
> > gambling. However Tanya's impulsive ex-gambler friend with a crush on her
> > thinks it's a good idea and is dumping his money into the venture hoping
> > to 'get rich quick'. sounds like a recipe for disaster. It's amazing
> > what a lack of pussy will do to a person.
> >
> > Tanya already has a successful business, if she really thought this idea
> > of hers was great why would she want to split it?
> >
> > I hope Tanya has someone competent running her other business, otherwise
> > she's setting herself up to go back to broke.
>
> I do. That's always been my goal, to start businesses, get them running
> smoothly, then hire someone to take over and run them for me. This is what
> entrepeneurs do, that is what I am. I have so many other ideas and
interests, I
> can't wait to get to them all!
>
> I will be a millionaire by the time I'm 40. That is my goal, and we all know
you
> can't meet goals if you don't make them.
I'll take 2% of your action on this.
>
> : )
>
> T
>
>
> : )
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 06:19:54
From: ChrisBrown
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On Nov 30 2006 7:52 AM, ChrisBrown wrote:
> Tanya already has a successful business, if she really thought this idea
> of hers was great why would she want to split it?
I should clarify....while I can see why she would take on a partner, I
don't see why she would take on a partner with no experience and limited
funds. Initially that last part read "why would she want to split it with
you" but I left the "with you" part out so that I wouldn't seem mean.
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Date: 30 Nov 15:14:30
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
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On Nov 30 2006 7:19 AM, ChrisBrown wrote:
> On Nov 30 2006 7:52 AM, ChrisBrown wrote:
>
> > Tanya already has a successful business, if she really thought this idea
> > of hers was great why would she want to split it?
>
> I should clarify....while I can see why she would take on a partner, I
> don't see why she would take on a partner with no experience and limited
> funds. Initially that last part read "why would she want to split it with
> you" but I left the "with you" part out so that I wouldn't seem mean.
You, mean?? Never!! You're simply CB. : )
T
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 04:28:40
From: mo_charles
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please read my comments as concern, not criticism or condemnation or
anything else.
> I'd like to clear up some misconceptions about my move to Kingman.
>
> Let's start at the beginning.
>
> As most of you know, Tanya and I have been good friends since the 2005
> WSOP. We talked often throughout the year. In the summer of 2006, Tanya
> decided that her marriage was irreconcilable, and got separated from Bill,
> moving with Cherissa to a new home. Things were going well for them and
> Tanya decided not to make the news public, both on her blog and on RGP.
making SOME personal information public on blogs or in newsgroups (to me)
is not wise. i'm glad tanya did the smart thing. why is she okay with it
being public now? further, since you've decided to date her, do the
reasons for her divorce (who's to blame, what's to blame, and why?) factor
into your decision to advance the relationship with her? think carefully
about this.
> At the same time, I left the military to pursue a career as a poker
> player. It started very well, with my 4th place in Costa Rica and WCOOP
> successes, but I found that I was not enjoying the game as much as I had
> hoped, and this was leading to poorer decisions on my part. I believe
> that I would have rectified this in time, but then Mr. Bush stepped in.
> With the passing of the Safe Port Act, the games where I had had the most
> success (Pacific 15/30 and 30/60 Omaha8 and Stud) dried up completely.
> Finding a decent game became a chore in and of itself. I had been spoiled
> by the poker boom. All this led to a disillusionment with the game
> (unfortunately coinciding with my ill-fated trip to Atlantic City and the
> USPC).
this is a valuable lesson for anybody. when pursuing a "career" in
anything, always step back and examine how and why you've decided to do
it. i traded during the internet bubble years in the late nineties, and
there were thousands of guys quitting decent, steady jobs to become day
traders of internet stocks. the skills they believed they possessed
weren't actually skills (and even if they were, they weren't
transferrable) but rather gambling balls in a market that had yet to fail
them. the sheer numbers of people bobbing into the same opportunities on
the same side provided them with quick riches but assured them of long-run
disaster. my firm had extraordinary years riding this froth as well, what
professionals didn't? however, we ALL knew that that kind of income
wasn't sustainable for long and were careful not to extrapolate too
extravagantly going forward. as a poker professional (or skilled
hobbyist), you needed to realize that some portion of what you were able
to make was predicated on pools of people playing who weren't broke yet
but soon would be....that the market would fill with more sharks, and that
your reliable income would shift down to some degree.
the world is better for you having decided to quit on the poker career.
we need guys doing real work building real businesses - we all do better
when people's skills and talents are funnelled into meaningful advances.
poker's a fun game here and there, but it seems a miserable way to make a
living.
> Talking with Tanya after the USPC, she mentionned how she had decided to
> finally open this new business, RagZ for TeenZ, now that she was single
> (Bill had nixed the idea while they were together). I asked for more
> details, and was sold on the idea. Tanya was going to need some money to
> help with the startup costs, and I offered to loan her the money; however,
> after
> some contemplation, I realized that I would much prefer to invest the
> money and become a partner, thus hopefully securing a more prosperous
> future for myself. I made the decision to move to Kingman, Tanya found me
> a room to rent, and I moved down here just before Hallowe'en.
i don't know the business plan, so won't comment. ragz for teenz? you
never mentioned that igotskillz was part of your venture.
> It was around this time that I got up the nerve to ask Tanya on a date. I
> was worried about it being "too soon", but I have skeletons in my past
> about waiting too long and letting your love interest get away, so I took
> the risk. I was delighted when she accepted.
>
> We spent most of November hard at work getting the store ready for opening
> day. It was a whirlwind, and though I had recently left the army, I had
> been at a desk job for several years, so this was the first honest work I
> had done in a while :)
don't go apeshit here, okay? after suffering some tough setbacks in a
line of work and making a big move (think lots of stress), dating your new
business partner and good friend who is recently separated/divorced sounds
like an awfully shitty idea. you two need to get serious about one thing
or the other for a while, or both are sure to fail. i'd suggest you focus
on the business since that's going to pay the bills. i'm not a
psychotherapist, but i've got pretty solid instincts when it comes to
stuff like this. coupling the stress of the venture and the
time/energy/financial costs of getting it running with a new and exciting
dating relationship with the co-investor is way, way, way too COMPLICATED.
can you yell at your partner when he/she fucks up at the business if
you're dating? is a business more or less likely to succeed when you've
got to worry about the feelings of the other investor? be practical - be
smart - and don't get involved with eachother until things are up and
running well.
> I thank you all for your wishes of good luck, and your constructive
> criticism. For those that live in the SoCal/NoCal/Vegas/Phoenix Areas, I
> hope to meet/meet again many of you soon.
i wish the two of you the best in everything.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 08:43:37
From: FellKnight
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 5:28 AM, mo_charles wrote:
> please read my comments as concern, not criticism or condemnation or
> anything else.
>
> > I'd like to clear up some misconceptions about my move to Kingman.
> >
> > Let's start at the beginning.
> >
> > As most of you know, Tanya and I have been good friends since the 2005
> > WSOP. We talked often throughout the year. In the summer of 2006, Tanya
> > decided that her marriage was irreconcilable, and got separated from Bill,
> > moving with Cherissa to a new home. Things were going well for them and
> > Tanya decided not to make the news public, both on her blog and on RGP.
>
> making SOME personal information public on blogs or in newsgroups (to me)
> is not wise. i'm glad tanya did the smart thing. why is she okay with it
> being public now?
You'll have to ask her. If I had to guess,. it is because it has to come
out at some point, and it is better to fight a battle on ground of your
own choosing, to paraphrase Sun-Tzu.
> further, since you've decided to date her, do the
> reasons for her divorce (who's to blame, what's to blame, and why?) factor
> into your decision to advance the relationship with her? think carefully
> about this.
I hope to use the knowledge that I learned from talking with Tanya,
hearing her frustrations, to avoid making the same mistakes. As for your
direct question, I'm sure they factor into the equation, but not to as big
a factor as you might think.
> > At the same time, I left the military to pursue a career as a poker
> > player. It started very well, with my 4th place in Costa Rica and WCOOP
> > successes, but I found that I was not enjoying the game as much as I had
> > hoped, and this was leading to poorer decisions on my part. I believe
> > that I would have rectified this in time, but then Mr. Bush stepped in.
> > With the passing of the Safe Port Act, the games where I had had the most
> > success (Pacific 15/30 and 30/60 Omaha8 and Stud) dried up completely.
> > Finding a decent game became a chore in and of itself. I had been spoiled
> > by the poker boom. All this led to a disillusionment with the game
> > (unfortunately coinciding with my ill-fated trip to Atlantic City and the
> > USPC).
>
> this is a valuable lesson for anybody. when pursuing a "career" in
> anything, always step back and examine how and why you've decided to do
> it. i traded during the internet bubble years in the late nineties, and
> there were thousands of guys quitting decent, steady jobs to become day
> traders of internet stocks. the skills they believed they possessed
> weren't actually skills (and even if they were, they weren't
> transferrable) but rather gambling balls in a market that had yet to fail
> them. the sheer numbers of people bobbing into the same opportunities on
> the same side provided them with quick riches but assured them of long-run
> disaster. my firm had extraordinary years riding this froth as well, what
> professionals didn't? however, we ALL knew that that kind of income
> wasn't sustainable for long and were careful not to extrapolate too
> extravagantly going forward. as a poker professional (or skilled
> hobbyist), you needed to realize that some portion of what you were able
> to make was predicated on pools of people playing who weren't broke yet
> but soon would be....that the market would fill with more sharks, and that
> your reliable income would shift down to some degree.
Good advice.
> the world is better for you having decided to quit on the poker career.
> we need guys doing real work building real businesses - we all do better
> when people's skills and talents are funnelled into meaningful advances.
> poker's a fun game here and there, but it seems a miserable way to make a
> living.
Althought I still think that it would be fun travelling the circuit,
playing $10k buyin events every other week, you are correct that there is
more fulfillment in "honest" work.
> > Talking with Tanya after the USPC, she mentionned how she had decided to
> > finally open this new business, RagZ for TeenZ, now that she was single
> > (Bill had nixed the idea while they were together). I asked for more
> > details, and was sold on the idea. Tanya was going to need some money to
> > help with the startup costs, and I offered to loan her the money; however,
> > after
> > some contemplation, I realized that I would much prefer to invest the
> > money and become a partner, thus hopefully securing a more prosperous
> > future for myself. I made the decision to move to Kingman, Tanya found me
> > a room to rent, and I moved down here just before Hallowe'en.
>
> i don't know the business plan, so won't comment. ragz for teenz? you
> never mentioned that igotskillz was part of your venture.
lol!
> > It was around this time that I got up the nerve to ask Tanya on a date. I
> > was worried about it being "too soon", but I have skeletons in my past
> > about waiting too long and letting your love interest get away, so I took
> > the risk. I was delighted when she accepted.
> >
> > We spent most of November hard at work getting the store ready for opening
> > day. It was a whirlwind, and though I had recently left the army, I had
> > been at a desk job for several years, so this was the first honest work I
> > had done in a while :)
>
> don't go apeshit here, okay? after suffering some tough setbacks in a
> line of work and making a big move (think lots of stress), dating your new
> business partner and good friend who is recently separated/divorced sounds
> like an awfully shitty idea. you two need to get serious about one thing
> or the other for a while, or both are sure to fail. i'd suggest you focus
> on the business since that's going to pay the bills. i'm not a
> psychotherapist, but i've got pretty solid instincts when it comes to
> stuff like this. coupling the stress of the venture and the
> time/energy/financial costs of getting it running with a new and exciting
> dating relationship with the co-investor is way, way, way too COMPLICATED.
> can you yell at your partner when he/she fucks up at the business if
> you're dating? is a business more or less likely to succeed when you've
> got to worry about the feelings of the other investor? be practical - be
> smart - and don't get involved with each other until things are up and
> running well.
Yelling is not my style. While I do think you have some very valid
points, so far things have been going *very* well. Tanya and I have
complimentary personalities, she is the brains of the operation, I provide
the moral support and grunt work. It has worked out very well so far. If
there is a neede to reevaluate in the future, you can be sure that we will
do so.
> > I thank you all for your wishes of good luck, and your constructive
> > criticism. For those that live in the SoCal/NoCal/Vegas/Phoenix Areas, I
> > hope to meet/meet again many of you soon.
>
> i wish the two of you the best in everything.
>
> mo_charles
Thank YOU.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 08:50:06
From: brewmaster
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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<snip >
> Tanya and I have
> complimentary personalities,
> she is the brains of the operation,
UH OH <jk > :)
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 08:53:03
From: Raider Fan
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 10:50 AM, brewmaster wrote:
> <snip>
>
> > Tanya and I have
> > complimentary personalities,
>
> > she is the brains of the operation,
>
> UH OH <jk> :)
>
> <snip>
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Date: 30 Nov 17:18:00
From: my cousin,my gastroentero
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 10:53 AM, Raider Fan wrote:
> On Nov 30 2006 10:50 AM, brewmaster wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > > Tanya and I have
> > > complimentary personalities,
> >
> > > she is the brains of the operation,
> >
> > UH OH :)
> >
> >
>
> LMAO @ the double protection to make sure it wasn't taken the wrong way!
double protection is never a bad idea, especially in new relationships.
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Date: 30 Nov 17:15:31
From: Welshman
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 8:53 AM, Raider Fan wrote:
> On Nov 30 2006 10:50 AM, brewmaster wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > > Tanya and I have
> > > complimentary personalities,
> >
> > > she is the brains of the operation,
> >
> > UH OH :)
> >
> >
>
> LMAO @ the double protection to make sure it wasn't taken the wrong way!
How many of us thought it though?
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Date: 30 Nov 18:26:19
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 10:15 AM, Welshman wrote:
>
>
> On Nov 30 2006 8:53 AM, Raider Fan wrote:
>
> > On Nov 30 2006 10:50 AM, brewmaster wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Tanya and I have
> > > > complimentary personalities,
> > >
> > > > she is the brains of the operation,
> > >
> > > UH OH :)
> > >
> > >
> >
> > LMAO @ the double protection to make sure it wasn't taken the wrong way!
>
> How many of us thought it though?
As I've said before, and I'll say it again, I have a big ass. KISS it.
; )
T
>
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 19:14:53
From: Travel
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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I thought Fellnight was gay? WTF!
Well, maybe he'll be in charge of TeenZ panties, who knows. The
country's so crazy today.
Anyway, I have a question: You're saying you're out of poker because
the "pool dried up"... Huh?
First of all, what does the internet have to do with being a poker pro?
I thought you were going to go to Vegas and play ring games, and what
do you do? You play on line and high buy in tournaments trying to get
on TV.
I've tried to explain loose game strategy, if you weren't so arrogant
and disrespectful and learned something, you may have been making
50,000 a year.
No, that's not TV, but you'd be playing poker, and in a couple of years
maybe afford to try some circuit tournament traveling. But where are the
bragging rights in grinding it out?
Oh well, I guess making presuptuous "announcements on RGP is show
biz..in a way.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 11:46:06
From: Raider Fan
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 1:14 PM, Travel wrote:
>
> I've tried to explain loose game strategy,
That's what you call it. I call it tight, uber weak strategy.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 20:36:16
From: Travel
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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Raider Fan;1001568 Wrote:
> On Nov 30 2006 1:14 PM, Travel wrote:
>
> >
> > I've tried to explain loose game strategy,
>
> That's what you call it. I call it tight, uber weak strategy.
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That's funny, that pretty much describes you, in general, when you're
trying to appear intelligent.
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Date: 02 Dec 2006 10:46:10
From: Travel
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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Raider Fan;1001568 Wrote:
> On Nov 30 2006 1:14 PM, Travel wrote:
>
> >
> > I've tried to explain loose game strategy,
>
> That's what you call it. I call it tight, uber weak strategy.
>
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Oh, (how did I let this opportunity slip by) Loose game strategy is
just the opposite. In fact, playing tight in loose games is one of the
biggest mistakes made.
It's a good thing for the achives, which serves to prove a point and
expose idiots like Raidergoof.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 11:36:21
From: Kinnipak
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 1:14 PM, Travel wrote:
> I thought Fellnight was gay? WTF!
>
> Well, maybe he'll be in charge of TeenZ panties, who knows. The
> country's so crazy today.
>
> Anyway, I have a question: You're saying you're out of poker because
> the "pool dried up"... Huh?
>
>
> First of all, what does the internet have to do with being a poker pro?
> I thought you were going to go to Vegas and play ring games, and what
> do you do? You play on line and high buy in tournaments trying to get
> on TV.
>
> I've tried to explain loose game strategy, if you weren't so arrogant
> and disrespectful and learned something, you may have been making
> 50,000 a year.
>
> No, that's not TV, but you'd be playing poker, and in a couple of years
> maybe afford to try some circuit tournament traveling. But where are the
> bragging rights in grinding it out?
>
> Oh well, I guess making presuptuous "announcements on RGP is show
> biz..in a way.
>
>
> --
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Date: 02 Dec 2006 15:50:24
From: FellKnight
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 12:14 PM, Travel wrote:
> I thought Fellnight was gay? WTF!
>
> Well, maybe he'll be in charge of TeenZ panties, who knows. The
> country's so crazy today.
>
> Anyway, I have a question: You're saying you're out of poker because
> the "pool dried up"... Huh?
Not what I said.
>
> First of all, what does the internet have to do with being a poker pro?
> I thought you were going to go to Vegas and play ring games, and what
> do you do? You play on line and high buy in tournaments trying to get
> on TV.
>
> I've tried to explain loose game strategy, if you weren't so arrogant
> and disrespectful and learned something, you may have been making
> 50,000 a year.
You amuse me. I always generally agreed with your loose game strategy. I
guess you are too busy defending yourself from others flamers.
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Date: 03 Dec 2006 11:18:52
From: Travel
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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FellKnight;1002864 Wrote:
> On Nov 30 2006 12:14 PM, Travel wrote:
>
> > I thought Fellnight was gay? WTF!
> >
> > Well, maybe he'll be in charge of TeenZ panties, who knows. The
> > country's so crazy today.
> >
> > Anyway, I have a question: You're saying you're out of poker because
> > the "pool dried up"... Huh?
>
> Not what I said.
>
> >
> > First of all, what does the internet have to do with being a poker
> pro?
> > I thought you were going to go to Vegas and play ring games, and
> what
> > do you do? You play on line and high buy in tournaments trying to
> get
> > on TV.
> >
> > I've tried to explain loose game strategy, if you weren't so
> arrogant
> > and disrespectful and learned something, you may have been making
> > 50,000 a year.
>
> You amuse me. I always generally agreed with your loose game strategy.
> I
> guess you are too busy defending yourself from others flamers.
You're right, you did come around in a reasonable way and discussed the
subject; (and I appreciate that) unlike the likes of Goofyfan and
Foreskinberg.
My comments were actually uncalled for,
but I couldn't resist the TeenZ pantieZ joke and was on a roll.
However, it's true that I'd still like to see someone posting about a
real "going pro" attempt.
Kind of like the way Daniel Negreanu started out in real casinos and
actual day to day poker; rather than the internet and live craps shoot
TV tournament entries.
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Date: 30 Nov 16:39:46
From: my cousin,my gastroentero
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 6:28 AM, mo_charles wrote:
> please read my comments as concern, not criticism or condemnation or
> anything else.
>
> > I'd like to clear up some misconceptions about my move to Kingman.
> >
> > Let's start at the beginning.
> >
> > As most of you know, Tanya and I have been good friends since the 2005
> > WSOP. We talked often throughout the year. In the summer of 2006, Tanya
> > decided that her marriage was irreconcilable, and got separated from Bill,
> > moving with Cherissa to a new home. Things were going well for them and
> > Tanya decided not to make the news public, both on her blog and on RGP.
>
> making SOME personal information public on blogs or in newsgroups (to me)
> is not wise. i'm glad tanya did the smart thing. why is she okay with it
> being public now? further, since you've decided to date her, do the
> reasons for her divorce (who's to blame, what's to blame, and why?) factor
> into your decision to advance the relationship with her? think carefully
> about this.
>
> > At the same time, I left the military to pursue a career as a poker
> > player. It started very well, with my 4th place in Costa Rica and WCOOP
> > successes, but I found that I was not enjoying the game as much as I had
> > hoped, and this was leading to poorer decisions on my part. I believe
> > that I would have rectified this in time, but then Mr. Bush stepped in.
> > With the passing of the Safe Port Act, the games where I had had the most
> > success (Pacific 15/30 and 30/60 Omaha8 and Stud) dried up completely.
> > Finding a decent game became a chore in and of itself. I had been spoiled
> > by the poker boom. All this led to a disillusionment with the game
> > (unfortunately coinciding with my ill-fated trip to Atlantic City and the
> > USPC).
>
> this is a valuable lesson for anybody. when pursuing a "career" in
> anything, always step back and examine how and why you've decided to do
> it. i traded during the internet bubble years in the late nineties, and
> there were thousands of guys quitting decent, steady jobs to become day
> traders of internet stocks. the skills they believed they possessed
> weren't actually skills (and even if they were, they weren't
> transferrable) but rather gambling balls in a market that had yet to fail
> them. the sheer numbers of people bobbing into the same opportunities on
> the same side provided them with quick riches but assured them of long-run
> disaster. my firm had extraordinary years riding this froth as well, what
> professionals didn't? however, we ALL knew that that kind of income
> wasn't sustainable for long and were careful not to extrapolate too
> extravagantly going forward. as a poker professional (or skilled
> hobbyist), you needed to realize that some portion of what you were able
> to make was predicated on pools of people playing who weren't broke yet
> but soon would be....that the market would fill with more sharks, and that
> your reliable income would shift down to some degree.
>
> the world is better for you having decided to quit on the poker career.
> we need guys doing real work building real businesses - we all do better
> when people's skills and talents are funnelled into meaningful advances.
> poker's a fun game here and there, but it seems a miserable way to make a
> living.
>
> > Talking with Tanya after the USPC, she mentionned how she had decided to
> > finally open this new business, RagZ for TeenZ, now that she was single
> > (Bill had nixed the idea while they were together). I asked for more
> > details, and was sold on the idea. Tanya was going to need some money to
> > help with the startup costs, and I offered to loan her the money; however,
> > after
> > some contemplation, I realized that I would much prefer to invest the
> > money and become a partner, thus hopefully securing a more prosperous
> > future for myself. I made the decision to move to Kingman, Tanya found me
> > a room to rent, and I moved down here just before Hallowe'en.
>
> i don't know the business plan, so won't comment. ragz for teenz? you
> never mentioned that igotskillz was part of your venture.
>
> > It was around this time that I got up the nerve to ask Tanya on a date. I
> > was worried about it being "too soon", but I have skeletons in my past
> > about waiting too long and letting your love interest get away, so I took
> > the risk. I was delighted when she accepted.
> >
> > We spent most of November hard at work getting the store ready for opening
> > day. It was a whirlwind, and though I had recently left the army, I had
> > been at a desk job for several years, so this was the first honest work I
> > had done in a while :)
>
> don't go apeshit here, okay? after suffering some tough setbacks in a
> line of work and making a big move (think lots of stress), dating your new
> business partner and good friend who is recently separated/divorced sounds
> like an awfully shitty idea. you two need to get serious about one thing
> or the other for a while, or both are sure to fail. i'd suggest you focus
> on the business since that's going to pay the bills. i'm not a
> psychotherapist, but i've got pretty solid instincts when it comes to
> stuff like this. coupling the stress of the venture and the
> time/energy/financial costs of getting it running with a new and exciting
> dating relationship with the co-investor is way, way, way too COMPLICATED.
> can you yell at your partner when he/she fucks up at the business if
> you're dating? is a business more or less likely to succeed when you've
> got to worry about the feelings of the other investor? be practical - be
> smart - and don't get involved with eachother until things are up and
> running well.
>
> > I thank you all for your wishes of good luck, and your constructive
> > criticism. For those that live in the SoCal/NoCal/Vegas/Phoenix Areas, I
> > hope to meet/meet again many of you soon.
>
> i wish the two of you the best in everything.
>
> mo_charles
i haven't been here long but this guy's an asshole, this much i'm sure of.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 08:52:49
From: Kinnipak
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*snip*
> i haven't been here long but this guy's an asshole, this much i'm sure of.
Mo is an asshole?
If I had to pick an asshole to put up with, he'd be in my top five.
(go ahead...flame away with all your gay jokes...I teed it up for you...)
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 08:58:04
From: brewmaster
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On Nov 30 2006 8:52 AM, Kinnipak wrote:
> *snip*
>
> > i haven't been here long but this guy's an asshole, this much i'm sure of.
>
> Mo is an asshole?
>
> If I had to pick an asshole to put up with, he'd be in my top five.
>
> (go ahead...flame away with all your gay jokes...I teed it up for you...)
I agree, he's one of the smartest posters here. Runs rings around Coleman.
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Date: 30 Nov 17:06:58
From: my cousin,my gastroentero
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 10:58 AM, brewmaster wrote:
> On Nov 30 2006 8:52 AM, Kinnipak wrote:
>
> > *snip*
> >
> > > i haven't been here long but this guy's an asshole, this much i'm sure of.
>
> >
> > Mo is an asshole?
> >
> > If I had to pick an asshole to put up with, he'd be in my top five.
> >
> > (go ahead...flame away with all your gay jokes...I teed it up for you...)
>
> I agree, he's one of the smartest posters here. Runs rings around Coleman.
land of the blind kinda thing huh? Sounds like he went to one of those schools
where everyone thinks they are smarter than they are, like university of chicago
or stanford.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 15:56:48
From: Signal
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"mo_charles" <harrybalzer@gmail.com > wrote:
>don't go apeshit here, okay? after suffering some tough setbacks in a
>line of work and making a big move (think lots of stress), dating your new
>business partner and good friend who is recently separated/divorced sounds
>like an awfully shitty idea. you two need to get serious about one thing
>or the other for a while, or both are sure to fail. i'd suggest you focus
>on the business since that's going to pay the bills. i'm not a
>psychotherapist, but i've got pretty solid instincts when it comes to
>stuff like this. coupling the stress of the venture and the
>time/energy/financial costs of getting it running with a new and exciting
>dating relationship with the co-investor is way, way, way too COMPLICATED.
> can you yell at your partner when he/she fucks up at the business if
>you're dating?
Yelling is no solution to anything.
>is a business more or less likely to succeed when you've
>got to worry about the feelings of the other investor?
Both Fellnight and Tanya seem cool headed if their posts are anything
to go by. There's no reason they shouldn't succeed if they can
compromise, delegate to one and other, and when hitting a brick wall
disagreement - arrive at a decision peacefully, without either party
being bitter afterwards.
The concern is what happens if they fall out - a strategy should be in
place for that scenerio IMO.
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From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 5:28 AM, mo_charles wrote:
> please read my comments as concern, not criticism or condemnation or
> anything else.
>
> > I'd like to clear up some misconceptions about my move to Kingman.
> >
> > Let's start at the beginning.
> >
> > As most of you know, Tanya and I have been good friends since the 2005
> > WSOP. We talked often throughout the year. In the summer of 2006, Tanya
> > decided that her marriage was irreconcilable, and got separated from Bill,
> > moving with Cherissa to a new home. Things were going well for them and
> > Tanya decided not to make the news public, both on her blog and on RGP.
>
> making SOME personal information public on blogs or in newsgroups (to me)
> is not wise. i'm glad tanya did the smart thing. why is she okay with it
> being public now?
I just figured it would have to come out eventually, I was just waiting for the
right "timing" and how I felt about it coming out at the time it came out.
further, since you've decided to date her, do the
> reasons for her divorce (who's to blame, what's to blame, and why?) factor
> into your decision to advance the relationship with her? think carefully
> about this.
>
> > At the same time, I left the military to pursue a career as a poker
> > player. It started very well, with my 4th place in Costa Rica and WCOOP
> > successes, but I found that I was not enjoying the game as much as I had
> > hoped, and this was leading to poorer decisions on my part. I believe
> > that I would have rectified this in time, but then Mr. Bush stepped in.
> > With the passing of the Safe Port Act, the games where I had had the most
> > success (Pacific 15/30 and 30/60 Omaha8 and Stud) dried up completely.
> > Finding a decent game became a chore in and of itself. I had been spoiled
> > by the poker boom. All this led to a disillusionment with the game
> > (unfortunately coinciding with my ill-fated trip to Atlantic City and the
> > USPC).
>
> this is a valuable lesson for anybody. when pursuing a "career" in
> anything, always step back and examine how and why you've decided to do
> it. i traded during the internet bubble years in the late nineties, and
> there were thousands of guys quitting decent, steady jobs to become day
> traders of internet stocks. the skills they believed they possessed
> weren't actually skills (and even if they were, they weren't
> transferrable) but rather gambling balls in a market that had yet to fail
> them. the sheer numbers of people bobbing into the same opportunities on
> the same side provided them with quick riches but assured them of long-run
> disaster. my firm had extraordinary years riding this froth as well, what
> professionals didn't? however, we ALL knew that that kind of income
> wasn't sustainable for long and were careful not to extrapolate too
> extravagantly going forward. as a poker professional (or skilled
> hobbyist), you needed to realize that some portion of what you were able
> to make was predicated on pools of people playing who weren't broke yet
> but soon would be....that the market would fill with more sharks, and that
> your reliable income would shift down to some degree.
>
> the world is better for you having decided to quit on the poker career.
> we need guys doing real work building real businesses - we all do better
> when people's skills and talents are funnelled into meaningful advances.
> poker's a fun game here and there, but it seems a miserable way to make a
> living.
>
> > Talking with Tanya after the USPC, she mentionned how she had decided to
> > finally open this new business, RagZ for TeenZ, now that she was single
> > (Bill had nixed the idea while they were together). I asked for more
> > details, and was sold on the idea. Tanya was going to need some money to
> > help with the startup costs, and I offered to loan her the money; however,
> > after
> > some contemplation, I realized that I would much prefer to invest the
> > money and become a partner, thus hopefully securing a more prosperous
> > future for myself. I made the decision to move to Kingman, Tanya found me
> > a room to rent, and I moved down here just before Hallowe'en.
>
> i don't know the business plan, so won't comment. ragz for teenz? you
> never mentioned that igotskillz was part of your venture.
LOL, nh sir.
>
> > It was around this time that I got up the nerve to ask Tanya on a date. I
> > was worried about it being "too soon", but I have skeletons in my past
> > about waiting too long and letting your love interest get away, so I took
> > the risk. I was delighted when she accepted.
> >
> > We spent most of November hard at work getting the store ready for opening
> > day. It was a whirlwind, and though I had recently left the army, I had
> > been at a desk job for several years, so this was the first honest work I
> > had done in a while :)
>
> don't go apeshit here, okay? after suffering some tough setbacks in a
> line of work and making a big move (think lots of stress), dating your new
> business partner and good friend who is recently separated/divorced sounds
> like an awfully shitty idea. you two need to get serious about one thing
> or the other for a while, or both are sure to fail. i'd suggest you focus
> on the business since that's going to pay the bills. i'm not a
> psychotherapist, but i've got pretty solid instincts when it comes to
> stuff like this. coupling the stress of the venture and the
> time/energy/financial costs of getting it running with a new and exciting
> dating relationship with the co-investor is way, way, way too COMPLICATED.
> can you yell at your partner when he/she fucks up at the business if
> you're dating? is a business more or less likely to succeed when you've
> got to worry about the feelings of the other investor? be practical - be
> smart - and don't get involved with eachother until things are up and
> running well.
I agree with what you've said, and we have discussed it. Keep in mind though
that we've really only gone on two official dates, so it's not like we're
getting married or anything. I've already warned him that I do not want to jump
into anything serious or get emotionally/romantically involved with someone at
this time. I already cared for Jordan from when we first met, everyone knows
that I considered him a very close friend, but I'm not about to jump into the
fire right now.
>
> > I thank you all for your wishes of good luck, and your constructive
> > criticism. For those that live in the SoCal/NoCal/Vegas/Phoenix Areas, I
> > hope to meet/meet again many of you soon.
>
> i wish the two of you the best in everything.
I appreciate your words, thanks mo.
T
>
> mo_charles
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 04:18:19
From: jenn1cide
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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if this isn't a recipe for disaster, I don't know what is. Opening a
business with a love interest... BAD MOVE. Good luck, but check back at
this post in 1 year... you will say i am right!!
J1C
On Nov 30 2006 1:46 AM, FellKnight wrote:
> I'd like to clear up some misconceptions about my move to Kingman.
>
> Let's start at the beginning.
>
> As most of you know, Tanya and I have been good friends since the 2005
> WSOP. We talked often throughout the year. In the summer of 2006, Tanya
> decided that her marriage was irreconcilable, and got separated from Bill,
> moving with Cherissa to a new home. Things were going well for them and
> Tanya decided not to make the news public, both on her blog and on RGP.
>
> At the same time, I left the military to pursue a career as a poker
> player. It started very well, with my 4th place in Costa Rica and WCOOP
> successes, but I found that I was not enjoying the game as much as I had
> hoped, and this was leading to poorer decisions on my part. I believe
> that I would have rectified this in time, but then Mr. Bush stepped in.
> With the passing of the Safe Port Act, the games where I had had the most
> success (Pacific 15/30 and 30/60 Omaha8 and Stud) dried up completely.
> Finding a decent game became a chore in and of itself. I had been spoiled
> by the poker boom. All this led to a disillusionment with the game
> (unfortunately coinciding with my ill-fated trip to Atlantic City and the
> USPC).
>
> Talking with Tanya after the USPC, she mentionned how she had decided to
> finally open this new business, RagZ for TeenZ, now that she was single
> (Bill had nixed the idea while they were together). I asked for more
> details, and was sold on the idea. Tanya was going to need some money to
> help with the startup costs, and I offered to loan her the money; however,
> after
> some contemplation, I realized that I would much prefer to invest the
> money and become a partner, thus hopefully securing a more prosperous
> future for myself. I made the decision to move to Kingman, Tanya found me
> a room to rent, and I moved down here just before Hallowe'en.
>
> It was around this time that I got up the nerve to ask Tanya on a date. I
> was worried about it being "too soon", but I have skeletons in my past
> about waiting too long and letting your love interest get away, so I took
> the risk. I was delighted when she accepted.
>
> We spent most of November hard at work getting the store ready for opening
> day. It was a whirlwind, and though I had recently left the army, I had
> been at a desk job for several years, so this was the first honest work I
> had done in a while :)
>
> I thank you all for your wishes of good luck, and your constructive
> criticism. For those that live in the SoCal/NoCal/Vegas/Phoenix Areas, I
> hope to meet/meet again many of you soon.
>
> Fell
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Date: 30 Nov 15:09:21
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 5:18 AM, jenn1cide wrote:
> if this isn't a recipe for disaster, I don't know what is. Opening a
> business with a love interest... BAD MOVE. Good luck, but check back at
> this post in 1 year... you will say i am right!!
You may be, you may not be. Time will tell.
T
>
> J1C
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 30 2006 1:46 AM, FellKnight wrote:
>
> > I'd like to clear up some misconceptions about my move to Kingman.
> >
> > Let's start at the beginning.
> >
> > As most of you know, Tanya and I have been good friends since the 2005
> > WSOP. We talked often throughout the year. In the summer of 2006, Tanya
> > decided that her marriage was irreconcilable, and got separated from Bill,
> > moving with Cherissa to a new home. Things were going well for them and
> > Tanya decided not to make the news public, both on her blog and on RGP.
> >
> > At the same time, I left the military to pursue a career as a poker
> > player. It started very well, with my 4th place in Costa Rica and WCOOP
> > successes, but I found that I was not enjoying the game as much as I had
> > hoped, and this was leading to poorer decisions on my part. I believe
> > that I would have rectified this in time, but then Mr. Bush stepped in.
> > With the passing of the Safe Port Act, the games where I had had the most
> > success (Pacific 15/30 and 30/60 Omaha8 and Stud) dried up completely.
> > Finding a decent game became a chore in and of itself. I had been spoiled
> > by the poker boom. All this led to a disillusionment with the game
> > (unfortunately coinciding with my ill-fated trip to Atlantic City and the
> > USPC).
> >
> > Talking with Tanya after the USPC, she mentionned how she had decided to
> > finally open this new business, RagZ for TeenZ, now that she was single
> > (Bill had nixed the idea while they were together). I asked for more
> > details, and was sold on the idea. Tanya was going to need some money to
> > help with the startup costs, and I offered to loan her the money; however,
> > after
> > some contemplation, I realized that I would much prefer to invest the
> > money and become a partner, thus hopefully securing a more prosperous
> > future for myself. I made the decision to move to Kingman, Tanya found me
> > a room to rent, and I moved down here just before Hallowe'en.
> >
> > It was around this time that I got up the nerve to ask Tanya on a date. I
> > was worried about it being "too soon", but I have skeletons in my past
> > about waiting too long and letting your love interest get away, so I took
> > the risk. I was delighted when she accepted.
> >
> > We spent most of November hard at work getting the store ready for opening
> > day. It was a whirlwind, and though I had recently left the army, I had
> > been at a desk job for several years, so this was the first honest work I
> > had done in a while :)
> >
> > I thank you all for your wishes of good luck, and your constructive
> > criticism. For those that live in the SoCal/NoCal/Vegas/Phoenix Areas, I
> > hope to meet/meet again many of you soon.
> >
> > Fell
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 08:00:56
From: Kinnipak
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 9:09 AM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
> On Nov 30 2006 5:18 AM, jenn1cide wrote:
>
> > if this isn't a recipe for disaster, I don't know what is. Opening a
> > business with a love interest... BAD MOVE. Good luck, but check back at
> > this post in 1 year... you will say i am right!!
>
> You may be, you may not be. Time will tell.
>
> T
My wife and I met at my company. We worked together for 4 years before
getting married and have worked everyday together since. 99/100 days are
just fine, but everyone has thier bad days. Just realize that people do
need their space every once in a while and you'll do fine.
I do miss being the boss tho.... :-) J/k...
All the Best.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 03:50:36
From: igotskillz com
Subject: Re: FellKnight gets some
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I hope it goes well you two.
Is T still doing her book ?
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Date: 30 Nov 15:08:36
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: FellKnight gets some
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On Nov 30 2006 4:50 AM, igotskillz com wrote:
> I hope it goes well you two.
>
> Is T still doing her book ?
Yes, I am.
T
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 07:24:27
From: brewmaster
Subject: Re: FellKnight gets some
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On Nov 30 2006 7:08 AM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
> On Nov 30 2006 4:50 AM, igotskillz com wrote:
>
> > I hope it goes well you two.
> >
> > Is T still doing her book ?
>
> Yes, I am.
>
> T
>
Oh, I thought you were doing Jordan, ba da boom! ;)
>
>
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Date: 30 Nov 16:02:36
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: FellKnight gets some
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On Nov 30 2006 8:24 AM, brewmaster wrote:
> On Nov 30 2006 7:08 AM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
>
> > On Nov 30 2006 4:50 AM, igotskillz com wrote:
> >
> > > I hope it goes well you two.
> > >
> > > Is T still doing her book ?
> >
> > Yes, I am.
> >
> > T
> >
>
> Oh, I thought you were doing Jordan, ba da boom! ;)
I'm not THAT easy.
Really, I'm not.
I mean it.
I'm serious.
T
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 08:12:27
From: brewmaster
Subject: Re: FellKnight gets some
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On Nov 30 2006 8:02 AM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
> On Nov 30 2006 8:24 AM, brewmaster wrote:
>
> > On Nov 30 2006 7:08 AM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
> >
> > > On Nov 30 2006 4:50 AM, igotskillz com wrote:
> > >
> > > > I hope it goes well you two.
> > > >
> > > > Is T still doing her book ?
> > >
> > > Yes, I am.
> > >
> > > T
> > >
> >
> > Oh, I thought you were doing Jordan, ba da boom! ;)
>
> I'm not THAT easy.
>
> Really, I'm not.
>
> I mean it.
>
> I'm serious.
>
> T
Hehe was just a joke. But hey, we're all still wondering if you do in
fact have knowledge of the comfort of his bed :)
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Date: 30 Nov 16:20:48
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: FellKnight gets some
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On Nov 30 2006 9:12 AM, brewmaster wrote:
> On Nov 30 2006 8:02 AM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
>
> > On Nov 30 2006 8:24 AM, brewmaster wrote:
> >
> > > On Nov 30 2006 7:08 AM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Nov 30 2006 4:50 AM, igotskillz com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I hope it goes well you two.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is T still doing her book ?
> > > >
> > > > Yes, I am.
> > > >
> > > > T
> > > >
> > >
> > > Oh, I thought you were doing Jordan, ba da boom! ;)
> >
> > I'm not THAT easy.
> >
> > Really, I'm not.
> >
> > I mean it.
> >
> > I'm serious.
> >
> > T
>
> Hehe was just a joke. But hey, we're all still wondering if you do in
> fact have knowledge of the comfort of his bed :)
I already answered that.
;p
T
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 18:30:28
From: igotskillz com
Subject: Re: FellKnight gets some
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i see u 2 as a good couple, congrats
On Nov 30 2006 12:20 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
> On Nov 30 2006 9:12 AM, brewmaster wrote:
>
> > On Nov 30 2006 8:02 AM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
> >
> > > On Nov 30 2006 8:24 AM, brewmaster wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Nov 30 2006 7:08 AM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Nov 30 2006 4:50 AM, igotskillz com wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I hope it goes well you two.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is T still doing her book ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, I am.
> > > > >
> > > > > T
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Oh, I thought you were doing Jordan, ba da boom! ;)
> > >
> > > I'm not THAT easy.
> > >
> > > Really, I'm not.
> > >
> > > I mean it.
> > >
> > > I'm serious.
> > >
> > > T
> >
> > Hehe was just a joke. But hey, we're all still wondering if you do in
> > fact have knowledge of the comfort of his bed :)
>
> I already answered that.
>
> ;p
>
> T
>
>
>
Thank YOU
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 03:32:43
From: John_Dory
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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gg guys
gl
Johnny D.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 00:29:27
From: I_AM_EVIL
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 1:46 AM, FellKnight wrote:
> I'd like to clear up some misconceptions about my move to Kingman.
>
> Let's start at the beginning.
>
> As most of you know, Tanya and I have been good friends since the 2005
> WSOP. We talked often throughout the year. In the summer of 2006, Tanya
> decided that her marriage was irreconcilable, and got separated from Bill,
> moving with Cherissa to a new home. Things were going well for them and
> Tanya decided not to make the news public, both on her blog and on RGP.
>
> At the same time, I left the military to pursue a career as a poker
> player. It started very well, with my 4th place in Costa Rica and WCOOP
> successes, but I found that I was not enjoying the game as much as I had
> hoped, and this was leading to poorer decisions on my part. I believe
> that I would have rectified this in time, but then Mr. Bush stepped in.
> With the passing of the Safe Port Act, the games where I had had the most
> success (Pacific 15/30 and 30/60 Omaha8 and Stud) dried up completely.
> Finding a decent game became a chore in and of itself. I had been spoiled
> by the poker boom. All this led to a disillusionment with the game
> (unfortunately coinciding with my ill-fated trip to Atlantic City and the
> USPC).
>
> Talking with Tanya after the USPC, she mentionned how she had decided to
> finally open this new business, RagZ for TeenZ, now that she was single
> (Bill had nixed the idea while they were together). I asked for more
> details, and was sold on the idea. Tanya was going to need some money to
> help with the startup costs, and I offered to loan her the money; however,
> after
> some contemplation, I realized that I would much prefer to invest the
> money and become a partner, thus hopefully securing a more prosperous
> future for myself. I made the decision to move to Kingman, Tanya found me
> a room to rent, and I moved down here just before Hallowe'en.
>
> It was around this time that I got up the nerve to ask Tanya on a date. I
> was worried about it being "too soon", but I have skeletons in my past
> about waiting too long and letting your love interest get away, so I took
> the risk. I was delighted when she accepted.
>
> We spent most of November hard at work getting the store ready for opening
> day. It was a whirlwind, and though I had recently left the army, I had
> been at a desk job for several years, so this was the first honest work I
> had done in a while :)
>
> I thank you all for your wishes of good luck, and your constructive
> criticism. For those that live in the SoCal/NoCal/Vegas/Phoenix Areas, I
> hope to meet/meet again many of you soon.
>
> Fell
GL to the both of you. Hope you have a successful business/personal
relationship.
By the way, does Tanya's daughter refer to you as FellKnight, Fell, Mr.
Knight, Jordan or Mr. Davenport? Inquiring minds want to know. ;-)
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 08:28:27
From: FellKnight
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 1:29 AM, I_AM_EVIL wrote:
> On Nov 30 2006 1:46 AM, FellKnight wrote:
>
> > I'd like to clear up some misconceptions about my move to Kingman.
> >
> > Let's start at the beginning.
> >
> > As most of you know, Tanya and I have been good friends since the 2005
> > WSOP. We talked often throughout the year. In the summer of 2006, Tanya
> > decided that her marriage was irreconcilable, and got separated from Bill,
> > moving with Cherissa to a new home. Things were going well for them and
> > Tanya decided not to make the news public, both on her blog and on RGP.
> >
> > At the same time, I left the military to pursue a career as a poker
> > player. It started very well, with my 4th place in Costa Rica and WCOOP
> > successes, but I found that I was not enjoying the game as much as I had
> > hoped, and this was leading to poorer decisions on my part. I believe
> > that I would have rectified this in time, but then Mr. Bush stepped in.
> > With the passing of the Safe Port Act, the games where I had had the most
> > success (Pacific 15/30 and 30/60 Omaha8 and Stud) dried up completely.
> > Finding a decent game became a chore in and of itself. I had been spoiled
> > by the poker boom. All this led to a disillusionment with the game
> > (unfortunately coinciding with my ill-fated trip to Atlantic City and the
> > USPC).
> >
> > Talking with Tanya after the USPC, she mentionned how she had decided to
> > finally open this new business, RagZ for TeenZ, now that she was single
> > (Bill had nixed the idea while they were together). I asked for more
> > details, and was sold on the idea. Tanya was going to need some money to
> > help with the startup costs, and I offered to loan her the money; however,
> > after
> > some contemplation, I realized that I would much prefer to invest the
> > money and become a partner, thus hopefully securing a more prosperous
> > future for myself. I made the decision to move to Kingman, Tanya found me
> > a room to rent, and I moved down here just before Hallowe'en.
> >
> > It was around this time that I got up the nerve to ask Tanya on a date. I
> > was worried about it being "too soon", but I have skeletons in my past
> > about waiting too long and letting your love interest get away, so I took
> > the risk. I was delighted when she accepted.
> >
> > We spent most of November hard at work getting the store ready for opening
> > day. It was a whirlwind, and though I had recently left the army, I had
> > been at a desk job for several years, so this was the first honest work I
> > had done in a while :)
> >
> > I thank you all for your wishes of good luck, and your constructive
> > criticism. For those that live in the SoCal/NoCal/Vegas/Phoenix Areas, I
> > hope to meet/meet again many of you soon.
> >
> > Fell
>
>
> GL to the both of you. Hope you have a successful business/personal
> relationship.
>
>
> By the way, does Tanya's daughter refer to you as FellKnight, Fell, Mr.
> Knight, Jordan or Mr. Davenport? Inquiring minds want to know. ;-)
>
>
> The 2nd Amendment........America's TRUE Homeland Security.
Jordan, lol.
Fell
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 07:57:53
From: XaQ Morphy
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> By the way, does Tanya's daughter refer to you as FellKnight, Fell, Mr.
> Knight, Jordan or Mr. Davenport? Inquiring minds want to know. ;-)
Cherissa: "Mom, I already told you I wasn't calling him Daddy, but
there's no way in hell I'm calling that dork FellKnight!"
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Date: 30 Nov 16:02:01
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 8:57 AM, XaQ Morphy wrote:
> > By the way, does Tanya's daughter refer to you as FellKnight, Fell, Mr.
> > Knight, Jordan or Mr. Davenport? Inquiring minds want to know. ;-)
>
> Cherissa: "Mom, I already told you I wasn't calling him Daddy, but
> there's no way in hell I'm calling that dork FellKnight!"
>
LOL, so close.
Actually, she knew him and called him "Fellknight" until she met him in person
here in Kingman, now it's just Jordan.
T
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Date: 30 Nov
From: Chris in Texas
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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I wish the best, as you well know (despite my constant joking around).
and well done on the "clarification" post.
Chris
On Nov 30 2006 12:46 AM, FellKnight wrote:
> I'd like to clear up some misconceptions about my move to Kingman.
>
> Let's start at the beginning.
>
> As most of you know, Tanya and I have been good friends since the 2005
> WSOP. We talked often throughout the year. In the summer of 2006, Tanya
> decided that her marriage was irreconcilable, and got separated from Bill,
> moving with Cherissa to a new home. Things were going well for them and
> Tanya decided not to make the news public, both on her blog and on RGP.
>
> At the same time, I left the military to pursue a career as a poker
> player. It started very well, with my 4th place in Costa Rica and WCOOP
> successes, but I found that I was not enjoying the game as much as I had
> hoped, and this was leading to poorer decisions on my part. I believe
> that I would have rectified this in time, but then Mr. Bush stepped in.
> With the passing of the Safe Port Act, the games where I had had the most
> success (Pacific 15/30 and 30/60 Omaha8 and Stud) dried up completely.
> Finding a decent game became a chore in and of itself. I had been spoiled
> by the poker boom. All this led to a disillusionment with the game
> (unfortunately coinciding with my ill-fated trip to Atlantic City and the
> USPC).
>
> Talking with Tanya after the USPC, she mentionned how she had decided to
> finally open this new business, RagZ for TeenZ, now that she was single
> (Bill had nixed the idea while they were together). I asked for more
> details, and was sold on the idea. Tanya was going to need some money to
> help with the startup costs, and I offered to loan her the money; however,
> after
> some contemplation, I realized that I would much prefer to invest the
> money and become a partner, thus hopefully securing a more prosperous
> future for myself. I made the decision to move to Kingman, Tanya found me
> a room to rent, and I moved down here just before Hallowe'en.
>
> It was around this time that I got up the nerve to ask Tanya on a date. I
> was worried about it being "too soon", but I have skeletons in my past
> about waiting too long and letting your love interest get away, so I took
> the risk. I was delighted when she accepted.
>
> We spent most of November hard at work getting the store ready for opening
> day. It was a whirlwind, and though I had recently left the army, I had
> been at a desk job for several years, so this was the first honest work I
> had done in a while :)
>
> I thank you all for your wishes of good luck, and your constructive
> criticism. For those that live in the SoCal/NoCal/Vegas/Phoenix Areas, I
> hope to meet/meet again many of you soon.
>
> Fell
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Date: 30 Nov
From: Porsche_Dan
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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w00t
On Nov 30 2006 12:46 AM, FellKnight wrote:
> I'd like to clear up some misconceptions about my move to Kingman.
>
> Let's start at the beginning.
>
> As most of you know, Tanya and I have been good friends since the 2005
> WSOP. We talked often throughout the year. In the summer of 2006, Tanya
> decided that her marriage was irreconcilable, and got separated from Bill,
> moving with Cherissa to a new home. Things were going well for them and
> Tanya decided not to make the news public, both on her blog and on RGP.
>
> At the same time, I left the military to pursue a career as a poker
> player. It started very well, with my 4th place in Costa Rica and WCOOP
> successes, but I found that I was not enjoying the game as much as I had
> hoped, and this was leading to poorer decisions on my part. I believe
> that I would have rectified this in time, but then Mr. Bush stepped in.
> With the passing of the Safe Port Act, the games where I had had the most
> success (Pacific 15/30 and 30/60 Omaha8 and Stud) dried up completely.
> Finding a decent game became a chore in and of itself. I had been spoiled
> by the poker boom. All this led to a disillusionment with the game
> (unfortunately coinciding with my ill-fated trip to Atlantic City and the
> USPC).
>
> Talking with Tanya after the USPC, she mentionned how she had decided to
> finally open this new business, RagZ for TeenZ, now that she was single
> (Bill had nixed the idea while they were together). I asked for more
> details, and was sold on the idea. Tanya was going to need some money to
> help with the startup costs, and I offered to loan her the money; however,
> after
> some contemplation, I realized that I would much prefer to invest the
> money and become a partner, thus hopefully securing a more prosperous
> future for myself. I made the decision to move to Kingman, Tanya found me
> a room to rent, and I moved down here just before Hallowe'en.
>
> It was around this time that I got up the nerve to ask Tanya on a date. I
> was worried about it being "too soon", but I have skeletons in my past
> about waiting too long and letting your love interest get away, so I took
> the risk. I was delighted when she accepted.
>
> We spent most of November hard at work getting the store ready for opening
> day. It was a whirlwind, and though I had recently left the army, I had
> been at a desk job for several years, so this was the first honest work I
> had done in a while :)
>
> I thank you all for your wishes of good luck, and your constructive
> criticism. For those that live in the SoCal/NoCal/Vegas/Phoenix Areas, I
> hope to meet/meet again many of you soon.
>
> Fell
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 17:52:48
From: Will in New Haven
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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FellKnight wrote:
> On Nov 30 2006 10:35 AM, NeverMe wrote:
>
> > I know both of you have a lot of gamble in you, but this is
> > different....more than a tourney buyin involed.
> > Well good luck to both of you in that ever direction you take.
> >
> > I can see the first BIG fight...when she knocks Fell out on the bubble
> > :)
> >
> > McSock
>
> Or vice versa... a bad situation for all involved ;)
>
> Fell
An engaged couple, college age, play in one of our local bar
tournaments every once in awhile. A few weeks ago, he got all-in with
TT against her MOM'S AA. And he hit a Ten. His future mother-in-law
said:
"Now you can't even stay in the guest room like you pretend to."
Good luck on the business and on the relationship, unless it becomes
"two or three dates and then back to best friends and business
partners." And THAT ain't awful either.
Will in New Haven
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we must speak of other matters, you can be me when I'm gone..."
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 16:48:44
From: cquinn
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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Congrats to both of you.
Qdog223
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Date: 01 Dec
From: srawski
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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Who gives a crap about Fell and Tonya -
can someone please loan Philivery777
$0.25 so he can do a micro tournament?
On Nov 30 2006 5:48 PM, cquinn wrote:
> Congrats to both of you.
>
>
> Qdog223
http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/?aff=564&co
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 14:21:40
From: Bill Ricardi
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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455 wrote:
> fag
Shut the fuck up, get back to the bedroom, and you best be lubed up for
me when I get there, gimp!
Oh, crap, wrong newsgroup! :)
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Date: 30 Nov 22:00:51
From: Nick Wool
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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Good luck, you'll both need it. Its nearly always a bad idea to combined
romantic and business interests together.
Hope everything turns out well.
On Nov 30 2006 6:46 AM, FellKnight wrote:
> I'd like to clear up some misconceptions about my move to Kingman.
>
> Let's start at the beginning.
>
> As most of you know, Tanya and I have been good friends since the 2005
> WSOP. We talked often throughout the year. In the summer of 2006, Tanya
> decided that her marriage was irreconcilable, and got separated from Bill,
> moving with Cherissa to a new home. Things were going well for them and
> Tanya decided not to make the news public, both on her blog and on RGP.
>
> At the same time, I left the military to pursue a career as a poker
> player. It started very well, with my 4th place in Costa Rica and WCOOP
> successes, but I found that I was not enjoying the game as much as I had
> hoped, and this was leading to poorer decisions on my part. I believe
> that I would have rectified this in time, but then Mr. Bush stepped in.
> With the passing of the Safe Port Act, the games where I had had the most
> success (Pacific 15/30 and 30/60 Omaha8 and Stud) dried up completely.
> Finding a decent game became a chore in and of itself. I had been spoiled
> by the poker boom. All this led to a disillusionment with the game
> (unfortunately coinciding with my ill-fated trip to Atlantic City and the
> USPC).
>
> Talking with Tanya after the USPC, she mentionned how she had decided to
> finally open this new business, RagZ for TeenZ, now that she was single
> (Bill had nixed the idea while they were together). I asked for more
> details, and was sold on the idea. Tanya was going to need some money to
> help with the startup costs, and I offered to loan her the money; however,
> after
> some contemplation, I realized that I would much prefer to invest the
> money and become a partner, thus hopefully securing a more prosperous
> future for myself. I made the decision to move to Kingman, Tanya found me
> a room to rent, and I moved down here just before Hallowe'en.
>
> It was around this time that I got up the nerve to ask Tanya on a date. I
> was worried about it being "too soon", but I have skeletons in my past
> about waiting too long and letting your love interest get away, so I took
> the risk. I was delighted when she accepted.
>
> We spent most of November hard at work getting the store ready for opening
> day. It was a whirlwind, and though I had recently left the army, I had
> been at a desk job for several years, so this was the first honest work I
> had done in a while :)
>
> I thank you all for your wishes of good luck, and your constructive
> criticism. For those that live in the SoCal/NoCal/Vegas/Phoenix Areas, I
> hope to meet/meet again many of you soon.
>
> Fell
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 21:56:45
From: 455
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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seriously though dude you have straight up issues making all this shit
public on a forum like this....whatta retard
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 21:55:20
From: 455
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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fag
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 21:33:57
From: Von Fourche
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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"FellKnight" <jordandevenport@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:uab244x2ap.ln2@recgroups.com...
> I'd like to clear up some misconceptions about my move to Kingman.
>
> Let's start at the beginning.
>
> As most of you know, Tanya and I have been good friends since the 2005
> WSOP. We talked often throughout the year. In the summer of 2006, Tanya
> decided that her marriage was irreconcilable, and got separated from Bill,
> moving with Cherissa to a new home. Things were going well for them and
> Tanya decided not to make the news public, both on her blog and on RGP.
>
> At the same time, I left the military to pursue a career as a poker
> player. It started very well, with my 4th place in Costa Rica and WCOOP
> successes, but I found that I was not enjoying the game as much as I had
> hoped, and this was leading to poorer decisions on my part. I believe
> that I would have rectified this in time, but then Mr. Bush stepped in.
> With the passing of the Safe Port Act, the games where I had had the most
> success (Pacific 15/30 and 30/60 Omaha8 and Stud) dried up completely.
> Finding a decent game became a chore in and of itself. I had been spoiled
> by the poker boom. All this led to a disillusionment with the game
> (unfortunately coinciding with my ill-fated trip to Atlantic City and the
> USPC).
Since you're talking about your personal life, let get to the important
stuff - does your new girlfriend give good head?
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 13:28:34
From: Raider Fan
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 12:46 AM, FellKnight wrote:
>
> I thank you all for your wishes of good luck, and your constructive
> criticism. For those that live in the SoCal/NoCal/Vegas/Phoenix Areas, I
> hope to meet/meet again many of you soon.
>
> Fell
Let me add my congratulations to both of you. I have to say I'm not
surprised you ended up getting together, but the business in Kingman is
not what I envisioned. Tanya is having so much fun traveling and
representing various poker interests. She certainly knows how to have a
good time in any environment. Her book project will require a pretty
extensive travel schedule as I understand it.
You have nothing tying you down, so you should be able to enjoy the
experience with her. Instead, you start a business that will take a while
to be profitable. Most startups require a great deal of time and
dedication to succeed. This is the part that puzzles me. You're going to
be stuck in a town many would consider less than desirable while Tanya
gets to do her poker projects.
At some point in time, this will be a hard pill to swallow. Like I said
yesterday, I wish you all the luck in the world and I sure hope you two
find happiness.
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Date: 30 Nov 22:15:44
From: Chris in Texas
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 3:28 PM, Raider Fan wrote:
> On Nov 30 2006 12:46 AM, FellKnight wrote:
>
> You have nothing tying you down, so you should be able to enjoy the
> experience with her. Instead, you start a business that will take a while
> to be profitable. Most startups require a great deal of time and
> dedication to succeed. This is the part that puzzles me. You're going to
> be stuck in a town many would consider less than desirable while Tanya
> gets to do her poker projects.
>
You must missed Tanya's post about starting new businesses and then getting
people to run them for her.
;-)
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 16:41:16
From: Peg Smith
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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Chris in Texas <43074073@recpoker.com > wrote:
>You're going to
>> be stuck in a town many would consider less than desirable while Tanya
>> gets to do her poker projects.
>>
>
>You must missed Tanya's post about starting new businesses and then getting
>people to run them for her.
That girl must give a hell of a blowjob, otherwise this whole thing
makes no sense.
Peg
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 15:03:25
From: brewmaster
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 2:41 PM, Peg Smith wrote:
> Chris in Texas <43074073@recpoker.com> wrote:
>
> >You're going to
> >> be stuck in a town many would consider less than desirable while Tanya
> >> gets to do her poker projects.
> >>
> >
> >You must missed Tanya's post about starting new businesses and then getting
> >people to run them for her.
>
> That girl must give a hell of a blowjob, otherwise this whole thing
> makes no sense.
Wow talk about not pulling punches.
>
> Peg
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Date: 30 Nov 22:30:53
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 3:15 PM, Chris in Texas wrote:
>
>
>
> On Nov 30 2006 3:28 PM, Raider Fan wrote:
>
> > On Nov 30 2006 12:46 AM, FellKnight wrote:
> >
> > You have nothing tying you down, so you should be able to enjoy the
> > experience with her. Instead, you start a business that will take a while
> > to be profitable. Most startups require a great deal of time and
> > dedication to succeed. This is the part that puzzles me. You're going to
> > be stuck in a town many would consider less than desirable while Tanya
> > gets to do her poker projects.
> >
>
> You must missed Tanya's post about starting new businesses and then getting
> people to run them for her.
>
> ;-)
This is true. We already have a great staff that wants to work the hours and
will be running the store for us, of course, we'll both be handy in case of call
ins (sick, vacation, etc) but for the most part, neither one of us will actually
be IN the store working, once we consider it established and can move onto the
next one.
T
>
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Date: 30 Nov 22:50:30
From: arlo payne
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
|
On Nov 30 2006 3:30 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
>
>
>
> On Nov 30 2006 3:15 PM, Chris in Texas wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 30 2006 3:28 PM, Raider Fan wrote:
> >
> > > On Nov 30 2006 12:46 AM, FellKnight wrote:
> > >
> > > You have nothing tying you down, so you should be able to enjoy the
> > > experience with her. Instead, you start a business that will take a while
> > > to be profitable. Most startups require a great deal of time and
> > > dedication to succeed. This is the part that puzzles me. You're going to
> > > be stuck in a town many would consider less than desirable while Tanya
> > > gets to do her poker projects.
> > >
> >
> > You must missed Tanya's post about starting new businesses and then getting
> > people to run them for her.
> >
> > ;-)
>
> This is true. We already have a great staff that wants to work the hours and
> will be running the store for us, of course, we'll both be handy in case of
> call
> ins (sick, vacation, etc) but for the most part, neither one of us will
> actually
> be IN the store working, once we consider it established and can move onto the
> next one.
>
> T
>
> >
>
I wish you luck but retail is a very hard road.
First labor is a big back breaker.
In most cases you need 500K in inventory just to do the volume needed to support
overhead.
Second you need around 250K in cash to float delays between income and outgo.
I hope at least one of you has worked a few years in retail to understand some
of the pit falls. As example most retail most retail runs in the red until the
holiday season.
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Date: 30 Nov 22:57:38
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
|
On Nov 30 2006 3:50 PM, arlo payne wrote:
>
>
>
> On Nov 30 2006 3:30 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 30 2006 3:15 PM, Chris in Texas wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Nov 30 2006 3:28 PM, Raider Fan wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Nov 30 2006 12:46 AM, FellKnight wrote:
> > > >
> > > > You have nothing tying you down, so you should be able to enjoy the
> > > > experience with her. Instead, you start a business that will take a
> > > > while
> > > > to be profitable. Most startups require a great deal of time and
> > > > dedication to succeed. This is the part that puzzles me. You're going to
> > > > be stuck in a town many would consider less than desirable while Tanya
> > > > gets to do her poker projects.
> > > >
> > >
> > > You must missed Tanya's post about starting new businesses and then
> > > getting
> > > people to run them for her.
> > >
> > > ;-)
> >
> > This is true. We already have a great staff that wants to work the hours and
> > will be running the store for us, of course, we'll both be handy in case of
> > call
> > ins (sick, vacation, etc) but for the most part, neither one of us will
> > actually
> > be IN the store working, once we consider it established and can move onto
> > the
> > next one.
> >
> > T
> >
> > >
> >
>
> I wish you luck but retail is a very hard road.
> First labor is a big back breaker.
> In most cases you need 500K in inventory just to do the volume needed to
> support
> overhead.
> Second you need around 250K in cash to float delays between income and outgo.
> I hope at least one of you has worked a few years in retail to understand some
> of the pit falls. As example most retail most retail runs in the red until
> the
> holiday season.
We're talking about a little 800 sq ft building that holds about 1200 pieces of
clothing at a time. The rest of the clothing is in my garage and all over my
living room, but we'll be moving it into a storage unit. 500K in inventory is
NOT needed for our store and in fact, would be ridiculous as again, the store
only holds about 3K worth of inventory at a time. The 250K backup is also
extremely high for floats as the monthly expenses are very minimal and will be
met by the monthly sales, OR by the backup that we do have. (Just not 250K
worth, LOL).
Thanks for your words of wisdom Arlo, I think we're OK right now though.
: )
T
>
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Date: 30 Nov 23:23:13
From: arlo payne
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
|
On Nov 30 2006 3:57 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
>
>
>
> On Nov 30 2006 3:50 PM, arlo payne wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 30 2006 3:30 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Nov 30 2006 3:15 PM, Chris in Texas wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Nov 30 2006 3:28 PM, Raider Fan wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Nov 30 2006 12:46 AM, FellKnight wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > You have nothing tying you down, so you should be able to enjoy the
> > > > > experience with her. Instead, you start a business that will take a
> > > > > while
> > > > > to be profitable. Most startups require a great deal of time and
> > > > > dedication to succeed. This is the part that puzzles me. You're going
> > > > > to
> > > > > be stuck in a town many would consider less than desirable while Tanya
> > > > > gets to do her poker projects.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > You must missed Tanya's post about starting new businesses and then
> > > > getting
> > > > people to run them for her.
> > > >
> > > > ;-)
> > >
> > > This is true. We already have a great staff that wants to work the hours
> > > and
> > > will be running the store for us, of course, we'll both be handy in case
> > > of
> > > call
> > > ins (sick, vacation, etc) but for the most part, neither one of us will
> > > actually
> > > be IN the store working, once we consider it established and can move onto
> > > the
> > > next one.
> > >
> > > T
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > I wish you luck but retail is a very hard road.
> > First labor is a big back breaker.
> > In most cases you need 500K in inventory just to do the volume needed to
> > support
> > overhead.
> > Second you need around 250K in cash to float delays between income and
> > outgo.
> > I hope at least one of you has worked a few years in retail to understand
> > some
> > of the pit falls. As example most retail most retail runs in the red until
> > the
> > holiday season.
>
> We're talking about a little 800 sq ft building that holds about 1200 pieces
> of
> clothing at a time. The rest of the clothing is in my garage and all over my
> living room, but we'll be moving it into a storage unit. 500K in inventory is
> NOT needed for our store and in fact, would be ridiculous as again, the store
> only holds about 3K worth of inventory at a time. The 250K backup is also
> extremely high for floats as the monthly expenses are very minimal and will be
> met by the monthly sales, OR by the backup that we do have. (Just not 250K
> worth, LOL).
>
> Thanks for your words of wisdom Arlo, I think we're OK right now though.
Tanya most small retail stores are owner operated and are really more of a
purchased job.
When you start taliking having employees run the place you need a huge volume of
sales each day.
You two will need to decide if you are going to work it day and night or make it
big enough to cover the employee overhaed.
Now if work it you don't need near as much volume in sales etc but if you really
are planning on having employees you better have a big bucket of cash.
One small example:
If your labor is $300 a day then your sales need to be increased by $600 a day
just to be near even on labor cost.
I would really love to read you biz plan. All kidding aside (as one that has
put together tons of biz plans) it is easy to fool yourself.
One really needs to figure out just how much they want to make (real figure)
then determine what is need to get to that point without blowing smoke up your
own ass.
Just off the top using the standard 50% figure if your store has an inventory of
3K you will need to sell about 50% of your inventory each day if you really are
planning on having full outside paid labor and still amke a buck or two.
I know I am sounding a little harsh but I do know the bix somewhat.
For me wholesale is not even the answer.
I like the import/wholesale side to take as much money as possible without the
headaches.
Hell my import biz ran at a 400% markup selling wholesale and the retailers only
had a 100% markup now which side do you like. BTW my smallest sale was $250 so
I did not have to deal with tons of people or lost product.
I would be glad to give advice if you would like but I also will never sugar
coat anything.
I hope you make it big just be honest to yourself about what it takes and for
GODS SAKE PUT AN HONEST BIZ PLAN TOGETHER.
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Date: 30 Nov 23:39:23
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
|
On Nov 30 2006 4:23 PM, arlo payne wrote:
>
>
>
> On Nov 30 2006 3:57 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 30 2006 3:50 PM, arlo payne wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Nov 30 2006 3:30 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Nov 30 2006 3:15 PM, Chris in Texas wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Nov 30 2006 3:28 PM, Raider Fan wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Nov 30 2006 12:46 AM, FellKnight wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You have nothing tying you down, so you should be able to enjoy the
> > > > > > experience with her. Instead, you start a business that will take a
> > > > > > while
> > > > > > to be profitable. Most startups require a great deal of time and
> > > > > > dedication to succeed. This is the part that puzzles me. You're
> > > > > > going
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > be stuck in a town many would consider less than desirable while
> > > > > > Tanya
> > > > > > gets to do her poker projects.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You must missed Tanya's post about starting new businesses and then
> > > > > getting
> > > > > people to run them for her.
> > > > >
> > > > > ;-)
> > > >
> > > > This is true. We already have a great staff that wants to work the hours
> > > > and
> > > > will be running the store for us, of course, we'll both be handy in case
> > > > of
> > > > call
> > > > ins (sick, vacation, etc) but for the most part, neither one of us will
> > > > actually
> > > > be IN the store working, once we consider it established and can move
> > > > onto
> > > > the
> > > > next one.
> > > >
> > > > T
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > I wish you luck but retail is a very hard road.
> > > First labor is a big back breaker.
> > > In most cases you need 500K in inventory just to do the volume needed to
> > > support
> > > overhead.
> > > Second you need around 250K in cash to float delays between income and
> > > outgo.
> > > I hope at least one of you has worked a few years in retail to understand
> > > some
> > > of the pit falls. As example most retail most retail runs in the red
> > > until
> > > the
> > > holiday season.
> >
> > We're talking about a little 800 sq ft building that holds about 1200 pieces
> > of
> > clothing at a time. The rest of the clothing is in my garage and all over my
> > living room, but we'll be moving it into a storage unit. 500K in inventory
> > is
> > NOT needed for our store and in fact, would be ridiculous as again, the
> > store
> > only holds about 3K worth of inventory at a time. The 250K backup is also
> > extremely high for floats as the monthly expenses are very minimal and will
> > be
> > met by the monthly sales, OR by the backup that we do have. (Just not 250K
> > worth, LOL).
> >
> > Thanks for your words of wisdom Arlo, I think we're OK right now though.
>
> Tanya most small retail stores are owner operated and are really more of a
> purchased job.
> When you start taliking having employees run the place you need a huge volume
> of
> sales each day.
> You two will need to decide if you are going to work it day and night or make
> it
> big enough to cover the employee overhaed.
> Now if work it you don't need near as much volume in sales etc but if you
> really
> are planning on having employees you better have a big bucket of cash.
> One small example:
> If your labor is $300 a day then your sales need to be increased by $600 a day
> just to be near even on labor cost.
>
> I would really love to read you biz plan. All kidding aside (as one that has
> put together tons of biz plans) it is easy to fool yourself.
> One really needs to figure out just how much they want to make (real figure)
> then determine what is need to get to that point without blowing smoke up your
> own ass.
>
> Just off the top using the standard 50% figure if your store has an inventory
> of
> 3K you will need to sell about 50% of your inventory each day if you really
> are
> planning on having full outside paid labor and still amke a buck or two.
> I know I am sounding a little harsh but I do know the bix somewhat.
> For me wholesale is not even the answer.
> I like the import/wholesale side to take as much money as possible without the
> headaches.
> Hell my import biz ran at a 400% markup selling wholesale and the retailers
> only
> had a 100% markup now which side do you like. BTW my smallest sale was $250
> so
> I did not have to deal with tons of people or lost product.
>
> I would be glad to give advice if you would like but I also will never sugar
> coat anything.
> I hope you make it big just be honest to yourself about what it takes and for
> GODS SAKE PUT AN HONEST BIZ PLAN TOGETHER.
Thank you Arlo, I will absolutely contact you if and when the time comes that we
ever need advice. I know you know your shit and you're someone I would
absolutely trust.
T
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 18:42:02
From: Mark B \(Diputsur\)
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
|
"Tanya AKA MissT74" <43084303@recpoker.com > wrote in message
news:1164929963$914257@recpoker.com...
>
>
>
> On Nov 30 2006 4:23 PM, arlo payne wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 30 2006 3:57 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Nov 30 2006 3:50 PM, arlo payne wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Nov 30 2006 3:30 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Nov 30 2006 3:15 PM, Chris in Texas wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Nov 30 2006 3:28 PM, Raider Fan wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > On Nov 30 2006 12:46 AM, FellKnight wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > You have nothing tying you down, so you should be able to enjoy
>> > > > > > the
>> > > > > > experience with her. Instead, you start a business that will take
>> > > > > > a
>> > > > > > while
>> > > > > > to be profitable. Most startups require a great deal of time and
>> > > > > > dedication to succeed. This is the part that puzzles me. You're
>> > > > > > going
>> > > > > > to
>> > > > > > be stuck in a town many would consider less than desirable while
>> > > > > > Tanya
>> > > > > > gets to do her poker projects.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > You must missed Tanya's post about starting new businesses and then
>> > > > > getting
>> > > > > people to run them for her.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > ;-)
>> > > >
>> > > > This is true. We already have a great staff that wants to work the
>> > > > hours
>> > > > and
>> > > > will be running the store for us, of course, we'll both be handy in
>> > > > case
>> > > > of
>> > > > call
>> > > > ins (sick, vacation, etc) but for the most part, neither one of us
>> > > > will
>> > > > actually
>> > > > be IN the store working, once we consider it established and can move
>> > > > onto
>> > > > the
>> > > > next one.
>> > > >
>> > > > T
>> > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > I wish you luck but retail is a very hard road.
>> > > First labor is a big back breaker.
>> > > In most cases you need 500K in inventory just to do the volume needed
>> > > to
>> > > support
>> > > overhead.
>> > > Second you need around 250K in cash to float delays between income and
>> > > outgo.
>> > > I hope at least one of you has worked a few years in retail to
>> > > understand
>> > > some
>> > > of the pit falls. As example most retail most retail runs in the red
>> > > until
>> > > the
>> > > holiday season.
>> >
>> > We're talking about a little 800 sq ft building that holds about 1200
>> > pieces
>> > of
>> > clothing at a time. The rest of the clothing is in my garage and all over
>> > my
>> > living room, but we'll be moving it into a storage unit. 500K in
>> > inventory
>> > is
>> > NOT needed for our store and in fact, would be ridiculous as again, the
>> > store
>> > only holds about 3K worth of inventory at a time. The 250K backup is also
>> > extremely high for floats as the monthly expenses are very minimal and
>> > will
>> > be
>> > met by the monthly sales, OR by the backup that we do have. (Just not
>> > 250K
>> > worth, LOL).
>> >
>> > Thanks for your words of wisdom Arlo, I think we're OK right now though.
>>
>> Tanya most small retail stores are owner operated and are really more of a
>> purchased job.
>> When you start taliking having employees run the place you need a huge
>> volume
>> of
>> sales each day.
>> You two will need to decide if you are going to work it day and night or
>> make
>> it
>> big enough to cover the employee overhaed.
>> Now if work it you don't need near as much volume in sales etc but if you
>> really
>> are planning on having employees you better have a big bucket of cash.
>> One small example:
>> If your labor is $300 a day then your sales need to be increased by $600 a
>> day
>> just to be near even on labor cost.
>>
>> I would really love to read you biz plan. All kidding aside (as one that
>> has
>> put together tons of biz plans) it is easy to fool yourself.
>> One really needs to figure out just how much they want to make (real
>> figure)
>> then determine what is need to get to that point without blowing smoke up
>> your
>> own ass.
>>
>> Just off the top using the standard 50% figure if your store has an
>> inventory
>> of
>> 3K you will need to sell about 50% of your inventory each day if you really
>> are
>> planning on having full outside paid labor and still amke a buck or two.
>> I know I am sounding a little harsh but I do know the bix somewhat.
>> For me wholesale is not even the answer.
>> I like the import/wholesale side to take as much money as possible without
>> the
>> headaches.
>> Hell my import biz ran at a 400% markup selling wholesale and the retailers
>> only
>> had a 100% markup now which side do you like. BTW my smallest sale was $250
>> so
>> I did not have to deal with tons of people or lost product.
>>
>> I would be glad to give advice if you would like but I also will never
>> sugar
>> coat anything.
>> I hope you make it big just be honest to yourself about what it takes and
>> for
>> GODS SAKE PUT AN HONEST BIZ PLAN TOGETHER.
>
> Thank you Arlo, I will absolutely contact you if and when the time comes
> that we
> ever need advice. I know you know your shit and you're someone I would
> absolutely trust.
If you want to be successful, you have to stop thinking on the 2nd level...
you should know that he knows that you know that he knows his shit.
HTH,
Mark
--
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Date: 30 Nov 23:45:46
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
|
On Nov 30 2006 4:42 PM, Mark B \(Diputsur\) wrote:
> "Tanya AKA MissT74" <43084303@recpoker.com> wrote in message
> news:1164929963$914257@recpoker.com...
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 30 2006 4:23 PM, arlo payne wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Nov 30 2006 3:57 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Nov 30 2006 3:50 PM, arlo payne wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Nov 30 2006 3:30 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Nov 30 2006 3:15 PM, Chris in Texas wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > On Nov 30 2006 3:28 PM, Raider Fan wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > On Nov 30 2006 12:46 AM, FellKnight wrote:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > You have nothing tying you down, so you should be able to enjoy
> >> > > > > > the
> >> > > > > > experience with her. Instead, you start a business that will take
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > a
> >> > > > > > while
> >> > > > > > to be profitable. Most startups require a great deal of time and
> >> > > > > > dedication to succeed. This is the part that puzzles me. You're
> >> > > > > > going
> >> > > > > > to
> >> > > > > > be stuck in a town many would consider less than desirable while
> >> > > > > > Tanya
> >> > > > > > gets to do her poker projects.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > You must missed Tanya's post about starting new businesses and then
> >> > > > > getting
> >> > > > > people to run them for her.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > ;-)
> >> > > >
> >> > > > This is true. We already have a great staff that wants to work the
> >> > > > hours
> >> > > > and
> >> > > > will be running the store for us, of course, we'll both be handy in
> >> > > > case
> >> > > > of
> >> > > > call
> >> > > > ins (sick, vacation, etc) but for the most part, neither one of us
> >> > > > will
> >> > > > actually
> >> > > > be IN the store working, once we consider it established and can move
> >> > > > onto
> >> > > > the
> >> > > > next one.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > T
> >> > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > > I wish you luck but retail is a very hard road.
> >> > > First labor is a big back breaker.
> >> > > In most cases you need 500K in inventory just to do the volume needed
> >> > > to
> >> > > support
> >> > > overhead.
> >> > > Second you need around 250K in cash to float delays between income and
> >> > > outgo.
> >> > > I hope at least one of you has worked a few years in retail to
> >> > > understand
> >> > > some
> >> > > of the pit falls. As example most retail most retail runs in the red
> >> > > until
> >> > > the
> >> > > holiday season.
> >> >
> >> > We're talking about a little 800 sq ft building that holds about 1200
> >> > pieces
> >> > of
> >> > clothing at a time. The rest of the clothing is in my garage and all over
> >> >
> >> > my
> >> > living room, but we'll be moving it into a storage unit. 500K in
> >> > inventory
> >> > is
> >> > NOT needed for our store and in fact, would be ridiculous as again, the
> >> > store
> >> > only holds about 3K worth of inventory at a time. The 250K backup is also
> >> > extremely high for floats as the monthly expenses are very minimal and
> >> > will
> >> > be
> >> > met by the monthly sales, OR by the backup that we do have. (Just not
> >> > 250K
> >> > worth, LOL).
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for your words of wisdom Arlo, I think we're OK right now though.
> >>
> >> Tanya most small retail stores are owner operated and are really more of a
> >> purchased job.
> >> When you start taliking having employees run the place you need a huge
> >> volume
> >> of
> >> sales each day.
> >> You two will need to decide if you are going to work it day and night or
> >> make
> >> it
> >> big enough to cover the employee overhaed.
> >> Now if work it you don't need near as much volume in sales etc but if you
> >> really
> >> are planning on having employees you better have a big bucket of cash.
> >> One small example:
> >> If your labor is $300 a day then your sales need to be increased by $600 a
> >> day
> >> just to be near even on labor cost.
> >>
> >> I would really love to read you biz plan. All kidding aside (as one that
> >> has
> >> put together tons of biz plans) it is easy to fool yourself.
> >> One really needs to figure out just how much they want to make (real
> >> figure)
> >> then determine what is need to get to that point without blowing smoke up
> >> your
> >> own ass.
> >>
> >> Just off the top using the standard 50% figure if your store has an
> >> inventory
> >> of
> >> 3K you will need to sell about 50% of your inventory each day if you really
> >> are
> >> planning on having full outside paid labor and still amke a buck or two.
> >> I know I am sounding a little harsh but I do know the bix somewhat.
> >> For me wholesale is not even the answer.
> >> I like the import/wholesale side to take as much money as possible without
> >> the
> >> headaches.
> >> Hell my import biz ran at a 400% markup selling wholesale and the retailers
> >> only
> >> had a 100% markup now which side do you like. BTW my smallest sale was $250
> >> so
> >> I did not have to deal with tons of people or lost product.
> >>
> >> I would be glad to give advice if you would like but I also will never
> >> sugar
> >> coat anything.
> >> I hope you make it big just be honest to yourself about what it takes and
> >> for
> >> GODS SAKE PUT AN HONEST BIZ PLAN TOGETHER.
> >
> > Thank you Arlo, I will absolutely contact you if and when the time comes
> > that we
> > ever need advice. I know you know your shit and you're someone I would
> > absolutely trust.
>
> If you want to be successful, you have to stop thinking on the 2nd level...
> you should know that he knows that you know that he knows his shit.
And vice versa, que no??
T
>
> HTH,
> Mark
> --
> http://www.myspace.com/diputsur
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Date: 02 Dec 2006 16:27:57
From: FellKnight
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
|
On Nov 30 2006 4:23 PM, arlo payne wrote:
> On Nov 30 2006 3:57 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 30 2006 3:50 PM, arlo payne wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Nov 30 2006 3:30 PM, Tanya AKA MissT74 wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Nov 30 2006 3:15 PM, Chris in Texas wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Nov 30 2006 3:28 PM, Raider Fan wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Nov 30 2006 12:46 AM, FellKnight wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You have nothing tying you down, so you should be able to enjoy the
> > > > > > experience with her. Instead, you start a business that will take a
> > > > > > while
> > > > > > to be profitable. Most startups require a great deal of time and
> > > > > > dedication to succeed. This is the part that puzzles me. You're
going
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > be stuck in a town many would consider less than desirable while
Tanya
> > > > > > gets to do her poker projects.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You must missed Tanya's post about starting new businesses and then
> > > > > getting
> > > > > people to run them for her.
> > > > >
> > > > > ;-)
> > > >
> > > > This is true. We already have a great staff that wants to work the
hours
> > > > and
> > > > will be running the store for us, of course, we'll both be handy in
case
> > > > of
> > > > call
> > > > ins (sick, vacation, etc) but for the most part, neither one of us will
> > > > actually
> > > > be IN the store working, once we consider it established and can move
onto
> > > > the
> > > > next one.
> > > >
> > > > T
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > I wish you luck but retail is a very hard road.
> > > First labor is a big back breaker.
> > > In most cases you need 500K in inventory just to do the volume needed to
> > > support
> > > overhead.
> > > Second you need around 250K in cash to float delays between income and
> > > outgo.
> > > I hope at least one of you has worked a few years in retail to understand
> > > some
> > > of the pit falls. As example most retail most retail runs in the red
until
> > > the
> > > holiday season.
> >
> > We're talking about a little 800 sq ft building that holds about 1200
pieces
> > of
> > clothing at a time. The rest of the clothing is in my garage and all over
my
> > living room, but we'll be moving it into a storage unit. 500K in inventory
is
> > NOT needed for our store and in fact, would be ridiculous as again, the
store
> > only holds about 3K worth of inventory at a time. The 250K backup is also
> > extremely high for floats as the monthly expenses are very minimal and
will be
> > met by the monthly sales, OR by the backup that we do have. (Just not 250K
> > worth, LOL).
> >
> > Thanks for your words of wisdom Arlo, I think we're OK right now though.
>
> Tanya most small retail stores are owner operated and are really more of a
> purchased job.
> When you start taliking having employees run the place you need a huge
volume of
> sales each day.
> You two will need to decide if you are going to work it day and night or
make it
> big enough to cover the employee overhaed.
> Now if work it you don't need near as much volume in sales etc but if you
really
> are planning on having employees you better have a big bucket of cash.
> One small example:
> If your labor is $300 a day then your sales need to be increased by $600 a
day
> just to be near even on labor cost.
>
> I would really love to read you biz plan. All kidding aside (as one that has
> put together tons of biz plans) it is easy to fool yourself.
> One really needs to figure out just how much they want to make (real figure)
> then determine what is need to get to that point without blowing smoke up
your
> own ass.
>
> Just off the top using the standard 50% figure if your store has an
inventory of
> 3K you will need to sell about 50% of your inventory each day if you really
are
> planning on having full outside paid labor and still amke a buck or two.
> I know I am sounding a little harsh but I do know the bix somewhat.
> For me wholesale is not even the answer.
> I like the import/wholesale side to take as much money as possible without
the
> headaches.
> Hell my import biz ran at a 400% markup selling wholesale and the retailers
only
> had a 100% markup now which side do you like. BTW my smallest sale was $250
so
> I did not have to deal with tons of people or lost product.
>
> I would be glad to give advice if you would like but I also will never sugar
> coat anything.
> I hope you make it big just be honest to yourself about what it takes and for
> GODS SAKE PUT AN HONEST BIZ PLAN TOGETHER.
We have. We need about $100 in gross sales a day to break even when we
are working(including lease, inventory, insurance, etc etc etc). If we
have someone running the store, we need $150-$175 a day to break even.
Fell
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Date: 03 Dec
From: arlo payne
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
|
On Dec 2 2006 5:27 PM, FellKnight wrote:
>
> We have. We need about $100 in gross sales a day to break even when we
> are working(including lease, inventory, insurance, etc etc etc). If we
> have someone running the store, we need $150-$175 a day to break even.
>
> Fell
> --
> Website: http://www.fellknight.com/
I really do wish you well
BUT!
Based on these figures you have posted you will fail.
It does show a lack of understanding on your part.
Just needing an increase of $50 to $75 a day in gross sales to cover someone
running the store is not a real world figure. At standard Retail margins that
only leaves $25 to $37 per day to cover the labor you talk about.
Just how cheap do you think a manager will work for?
I really question the chances of keeping the doors open with $100 per day net
sales much less gross.
Sorry kids but at this point it appears you both are dreaming (based on your
figures).
Also product inventory and product daily turnover is key. Not to mention dead
product and loss due to a million differnet things.
I would love to see the biz plan and see projected cost for labor (all
costs),rent, power, phone, ads, insurance, product loss, travel.
I would also love to see the projected customer base count and income levels
along with traffic flow and magnet stores in the direct area creating non direct
customer base.
BTW this will be my last post on the subject and I am only posting to try and
help but knowing human nature the way I do you both should be pissed off about
what I have written and take it as I am full of shit. Sad to say you will have
to learn the hard way. I do hope you can both tell me how full of shit I am a
year from now and laugh at me for knowing nothing I really do. But in general
trying to do any retail on a shoe string is almost impossible when you are doing
a location and not just an online store.
It is your biz not mine so as stated I will not post on the subject again and if
you feel I have offended you by my writing I am sorry but you two started
sharing this all on RGP and I just can't sit back without saying something that
might save you both from a hard fall.
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Date: 03 Dec 2006 03:22:09
From: Al Gore's Dead Cat
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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I'm all in with 46 off every damned time!
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Date: 02 Dec 2006 18:34:27
From: Sng
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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> ..... once we consider it established and can move onto the
> next one.
>
> T
When you talk about considering it established then moving on to the
next one, are you talking about the relationship part or the store part?
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Date: 03 Dec
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Dec 2 2006 4:34 PM, Sng wrote:
> > ..... once we consider it established and can move onto the
> > next one.
> >
> > T
> When you talk about considering it established then moving on to the
> next one, are you talking about the relationship part or the store part?
Touche. : )
T
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 12:59:18
From: dougmanct
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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As a guy who serves corporate masters to pay the mortgage, but has an
entrepreneur bottled up inside hoping someday to break out, I can truly
say I'm very proud of both of you for following your dreams. Nothing is
more real and brave than that, whether you win or lose.
Have yet to meet either of you guys in person but hopefully my next
Vegas jaunt will be sooner rather than later, and I'll most definately
make it a point to kidnap both of ya for a drink or nine.
Best of luck!
-dougmanct
FellKnight wrote:
> I'd like to clear up some misconceptions about my mo-ve to Kingman.
>
> Let's start at the beginning.
>
> As most of you know, Tanya and I have been good friends since the 2005
> WSOP. We talked often throughout the year. In the summer of 2006, Tanya
> decided that her marriage was irreconcilable, and got separated from Bill,
> moving with Cherissa to a new home. Things were going well for them and
> Tanya decided not to make the news public, both on her blog and on RGP.
>
> At the same time, I left the military to pursue a career as a poker
> player. It started very well, with my 4th place in Costa Rica and WCOOP
> successes, but I found that I was not enjoying the game as much as I had
> hoped, and this was leading to poorer decisions on my part. I believe
> that I would have rectified this in time, but then Mr. Bush stepped in.
> With the passing of the Safe Port Act, the games where I had had the most
> success (Pacific 15/30 and 30/60 Omaha8 and Stud) dried up completely.
> Finding a decent game became a chore in and of itself. I had been spoiled
> by the poker boom. All this led to a disillusionment with the game
> (unfortunately coinciding with my ill-fated trip to Atlantic City and the
> USPC).
>
> Talking with Tanya after the USPC, she mentionned how she had decided to
> finally open this new business, RagZ for TeenZ, now that she was single
> (Bill had nixed the idea while they were together). I asked for more
> details, and was sold on the idea. Tanya was going to need some money to
> help with the startup costs, and I offered to loan her the money; however,
> after
> some contemplation, I realized that I would much prefer to invest the
> money and become a partner, thus hopefully securing a more prosperous
> future for myself. I made the decision to move to Kingman, Tanya found me
> a room to rent, and I moved down here just before Hallowe'en.
>
> It was around this time that I got up the nerve to ask Tanya on a date. I
> was worried about it being "too soon", but I have skeletons in my past
> about waiting too long and letting your love interest get away, so I took
> the risk. I was delighted when she accepted.
>
> We spent most of November hard at work getting the store ready for opening
> day. It was a whirlwind, and though I had recently left the army, I had
> been at a desk job for several years, so this was the first honest work I
> had done in a while :)
>
> I thank you all for your wishes of good luck, and your constructive
> criticism. For those that live in the SoCal/NoCal/Vegas/Phoenix Areas, I
> hope to meet/meet again many of you soon.
>
> Fell
>
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Date: 30 Nov 21:02:53
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Nov 30 2006 1:59 PM, dougmanct wrote:
> As a guy who serves corporate masters to pay the mortgage, but has an
> entrepreneur bottled up inside hoping someday to break out, I can truly
> say I'm very proud of both of you for following your dreams. Nothing is
> more real and brave than that, whether you win or lose.
>
> Have yet to meet either of you guys in person but hopefully my next
> Vegas jaunt will be sooner rather than later, and I'll most definately
> make it a point to kidnap both of ya for a drink or nine.
"Drink or nine" I love it!! Can't wait to meet you, let us know!
T
>
> Best of luck!
>
>
> -dougmanct
>
>
> FellKnight wrote:
> > I'd like to clear up some misconceptions about my mo-ve to Kingman.
> >
> > Let's start at the beginning.
> >
> > As most of you know, Tanya and I have been good friends since the 2005
> > WSOP. We talked often throughout the year. In the summer of 2006, Tanya
> > decided that her marriage was irreconcilable, and got separated from Bill,
> > moving with Cherissa to a new home. Things were going well for them and
> > Tanya decided not to make the news public, both on her blog and on RGP.
> >
> > At the same time, I left the military to pursue a career as a poker
> > player. It started very well, with my 4th place in Costa Rica and WCOOP
> > successes, but I found that I was not enjoying the game as much as I had
> > hoped, and this was leading to poorer decisions on my part. I believe
> > that I would have rectified this in time, but then Mr. Bush stepped in.
> > With the passing of the Safe Port Act, the games where I had had the most
> > success (Pacific 15/30 and 30/60 Omaha8 and Stud) dried up completely.
> > Finding a decent game became a chore in and of itself. I had been spoiled
> > by the poker boom. All this led to a disillusionment with the game
> > (unfortunately coinciding with my ill-fated trip to Atlantic City and the
> > USPC).
> >
> > Talking with Tanya after the USPC, she mentionned how she had decided to
> > finally open this new business, RagZ for TeenZ, now that she was single
> > (Bill had nixed the idea while they were together). I asked for more
> > details, and was sold on the idea. Tanya was going to need some money to
> > help with the startup costs, and I offered to loan her the money; however,
> > after
> > some contemplation, I realized that I would much prefer to invest the
> > money and become a partner, thus hopefully securing a more prosperous
> > future for myself. I made the decision to move to Kingman, Tanya found me
> > a room to rent, and I moved down here just before Hallowe'en.
> >
> > It was around this time that I got up the nerve to ask Tanya on a date. I
> > was worried about it being "too soon", but I have skeletons in my past
> > about waiting too long and letting your love interest get away, so I took
> > the risk. I was delighted when she accepted.
> >
> > We spent most of November hard at work getting the store ready for opening
> > day. It was a whirlwind, and though I had recently left the army, I had
> > been at a desk job for several years, so this was the first honest work I
> > had done in a while :)
> >
> > I thank you all for your wishes of good luck, and your constructive
> > criticism. For those that live in the SoCal/NoCal/Vegas/Phoenix Areas, I
> > hope to meet/meet again many of you soon.
> >
> > Fell
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 15:29:23
From: A Man Beaten by Jacks
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 22:46:22 -0800, "FellKnight" <jordandevenport@hotmail.com >
wrote:
[Some details to a story that was pretty easy to figure out already ;-)]
>I thank you all for your wishes of good luck, and your constructive
>criticism. For those that live in the SoCal/NoCal/Vegas/Phoenix Areas, I
>hope to meet/meet again many of you soon.
Aww, how sweet. GL.
I have nothing useful to contribute, so I'll just do my part to make
this thread longer than "goes Pro."
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 12:14:33
From: Al Gore's Dead Cat
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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Mixing business+personal = disaster
Trust me. You're doomed.
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Date: 01 Dec 15:44:17
From: Chris in Texas
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Dec 1 2006 6:14 AM, Al Gore's Dead Cat wrote:
> Mixing business+personal = disaster
>
> Trust me. You're doomed.
Well, there are the rare exceptions. The company I work for is owned by a
successful husband/wife team, who (if rumour is correct) started dating when
they both worked at another company before starting out on their own.
Other than the occassional "God dammit, sweetie, didn't I say to blah blah
blah", they do just fine.
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 16:06:26
From: Al Gore's Dead Cat
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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"Chris in Texas" <43074073@recpoker.com > wrote in message
> Well, there are the rare exceptions. The company I work for is owned by a
> successful husband/wife team, who (if rumour is correct) started dating
> when
> they both worked at another company before starting out on their own.
>
> Other than the occassional "God dammit, sweetie, didn't I say to blah blah
> blah", they do just fine.
There are always exceptions, but for the most part, don't get your meat
where you get your bread.
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Date: 01 Dec 17:13:22
From: Porsche_Dan
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Dec 1 2006 10:06 AM, Al Gore's Dead Cat wrote:
> "Chris in Texas" <43074073@recpoker.com> wrote in message
> > Well, there are the rare exceptions. The company I work for is owned by a
> > successful husband/wife team, who (if rumour is correct) started dating
> > when
> > they both worked at another company before starting out on their own.
> >
> > Other than the occassional "God dammit, sweetie, didn't I say to blah blah
> > blah", they do just fine.
>
> There are always exceptions, but for the most part, don't get your meat
> where you get your bread.
Well stated. That should be posted right next to the business license and
workmen's comp notice.
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 09:48:00
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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> Well, there are the rare exceptions. The company I work for is owned by a
> successful husband/wife team, who (if rumour is correct) started dating when
> they both worked at another company before starting out on their own.
In the last 90's I did consulting with a small company. One of our
clients was B&B something or other. Their setup was almost like a gutted
out townhouse sort of thing, with engineering on one side, and
administrative on the other. The B&B stood for the husband and wife that
started the company, who were now divorced. One sat on one side of the
building, the other on the other side. There was so much tension in that
place is gave me headaches just being there.
Funny thing is, their business did better after they divorced because they
stopped spending company funds to go on vacations (read: seminars)
together.
Thiz in no way haz anything to do with the Fellz and Tanyaz Ragz 4 Teenz
storez. Just an amuzing ztory. Or zomething.
Morphy
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 14:39:25
From: Bronzedodger
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Dec 1 2006 12:48 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:
>
> In the last 90's I did consulting with a small company. One of our
> clients was B&B something or other. Their setup was almost like a gutted
> out townhouse sort of thing, with engineering on one side, and
> administrative on the other. The B&B stood for the husband and wife that
> started the company, who were now divorced. One sat on one side of the
> building, the other on the other side. There was so much tension in that
> place is gave me headaches just being there.
>
> Funny thing is, their business did better after they divorced because they
> stopped spending company funds to go on vacations (read: seminars)
> together.
>
> Thiz in no way haz anything to do with the Fellz and Tanyaz Ragz 4 Teenz
> storez. Just an amuzing ztory. Or zomething.
>
> Morphy
> http://donkeymanifesto.blogspot.com
Heh - worked in a like situation, except the offices were opposite each
other, separated by about 20 feet of open area (desks but no walls). She
was a number cruncher, and he was the idea guy. The question was never
"why did they get divorced", it was "how did they ever get along in the
first place?" However, they did manage to operate the business pretty
well...as long as you don't count staff morale as a company asset.
I figure Fell and MissT will be fine up to the point where the store has a
required "pay day Sit 'n Go" for all staff. Their profits will soar, but
the staff turnover will be high due to their lack of take home. ;)
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 14:18:05
From: A Man Beaten by Jacks
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 12:14:33 GMT, "Al Gore's Dead Cat" <dc@dc.com > wrote:
>Mixing business+personal = disaster
>Trust me. You're doomed.
If they're doomed they'll at least find that out fast.
But if a relationship can survive being mixed with business, it can
probably survive anything.
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Date: 02 Dec 2006 11:46:28
From: DaVoice
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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"Al Gore's Dead Cat" <dc@dc.com > wrote in message
news:J0Vbh.927$yj1.47@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
> Mixing business+personal = disaster
>
> Trust me. You're doomed.
I think you're WAY off base here. Where do you think the term "mom and pop"
businesses came from?
My parents succesfully ran 3 businesses together. My wife and I have run
and sold 2 businesses and are still running Voiceofpoker.com which will be
returning to the cyber-air-waves in January. I realize these are just two
anecdotal stories, however there are millions.
I'd much rather do business with a spouse/lover than a "friend" or "family
member" (eg, in-laws, cousins, etc.). If you have a good relationship (Peg
and I are about to celebrate our 22nd anniversary) then you have the same
goals and ambitions and will work together to achieve them.
YES, it can be trying on a relationship! When Peg and I started Local Link
of HGS, Inc. , an ISP in West Central Minnesota that covered 3 cities with
33.6 dial-up connections (fastest speed available then) we spent 24/7
together for about 6 months. It wasn't nearly as easy as when we had
separate jobs, but with both of us "manning" the office and our tech
building computers and doing "installs", we were able to save TWO
salaries/month. We got a LOT for our sweat equity when we sold out, plus we
made money along the way. It was extremely sucessful because we put our
heart and soul into the project and worked TOGETHER on it.
Rick "DaVoice" Charles
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Date: 02 Dec 2006 12:01:33
From: Raider Fan
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Dec 2 2006 1:46 PM, DaVoice wrote:
> building computers and doing "installs", we were able to save TWO
> salaries/month. We got a LOT for our sweat equity when we sold out, plus we
> made money along the way. It was extremely sucessful because we put our
> heart and soul into the project and worked TOGETHER on it.
>
> Rick "DaVoice" Charles
Rick,
I'm not sure if you've read all the responses Tanya has provided. It
seems she and Fell have no interest in sweat equity. They've hired a
staff to work and they'll be available as required for sick/vacation
fill-in. Apparently they've decided that the concept is enough. They
just need to get the word out and move on to the next store.
Unforturnately, I think they are in for a rude awakening. I'm hoping the
business failure doesn't impact the relationship.
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Date: 02 Dec 20:51:13
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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On Dec 2 2006 1:01 PM, Raider Fan wrote:
> On Dec 2 2006 1:46 PM, DaVoice wrote:
>
> > building computers and doing "installs", we were able to save TWO
> > salaries/month. We got a LOT for our sweat equity when we sold out, plus we
> >
> > made money along the way. It was extremely sucessful because we put our
> > heart and soul into the project and worked TOGETHER on it.
> >
> > Rick "DaVoice" Charles
>
> Rick,
>
> I'm not sure if you've read all the responses Tanya has provided. It
> seems she and Fell have no interest in sweat equity. They've hired a
> staff to work and they'll be available as required for sick/vacation
> fill-in. Apparently they've decided that the concept is enough. They
> just need to get the word out and move on to the next store.
>
> Unforturnately, I think they are in for a rude awakening. I'm hoping the
> business failure doesn't impact the relationship.
LOL, oh come on. Just because we want to hire a staff to run the business and
them open more, doesn't mean we are not "interested" nor have not already, put
in sweat equity into our business(es).
I KNOW about sweat equity, been there done that and would simply prefer to not
have to do it AS MUCh, if we can avoid it/afford not to.
Why would that automatically put us doomed to failure??
T
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Date: 02 Dec 2006 14:59:31
From: Susan
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I haven't followed this whole thread Tanya. Have you opened yet? How is it
doing? It sounds like a novel idea.
Susan
"Tanya AKA MissT74" <43084303@recpoker.com > wrote in message
news:1165092673$915296@recpoker.com...
>
>
>
> On Dec 2 2006 1:01 PM, Raider Fan wrote:
>
>> On Dec 2 2006 1:46 PM, DaVoice wrote:
>>
>> > building computers and doing "installs", we were able to save TWO
>> > salaries/month. We got a LOT for our sweat equity when we sold out,
>> > plus we
>> >
>> > made money along the way. It was extremely sucessful because we put our
>> > heart and soul into the project and worked TOGETHER on it.
>> >
>> > Rick "DaVoice" Charles
>>
>> Rick,
>>
>> I'm not sure if you've read all the responses Tanya has provided. It
>> seems she and Fell have no interest in sweat equity. They've hired a
>> staff to work and they'll be available as required for sick/vacation
>> fill-in. Apparently they've decided that the concept is enough. They
>> just need to get the word out and move on to the next store.
>>
>> Unforturnately, I think they are in for a rude awakening. I'm hoping the
>> business failure doesn't impact the relationship.
>
> LOL, oh come on. Just because we want to hire a staff to run the business
> and
> them open more, doesn't mean we are not "interested" nor have not already,
> put
> in sweat equity into our business(es).
>
> I KNOW about sweat equity, been there done that and would simply prefer to
> not
> have to do it AS MUCh, if we can avoid it/afford not to.
>
> Why would that automatically put us doomed to failure??
>
> T
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Date: 02 Dec 2006 22:17:47
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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"Susan" <sdbratt48@netscape.net > wrote in message
news:LNlch.1396$TE2.978@newsfe06.lga...
>I haven't followed this whole thread Tanya. Have you opened yet? How is
>it doing? It sounds like a novel idea.
>
> Susan
>
http://misst74.blogspot.com/2006/11/grand-opening-weekend.html
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Date: 02 Dec 23:30:10
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: FellKnight/Kingman: A Clarification
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Thanks for asking Susay, Paul was right, everything is in the blog entry!!
: )
Weekend #2 report coming up on Monday, lol
T
On Dec 2 2006 3:17 PM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
> "Susan" wrote in message
> news:LNlch.1396$TE2.978@newsfe06.lga...
> >I haven't followed this whole thread Tanya. Have you opened yet? How is
> >it doing? It sounds like a novel idea.
> >
> > Susan
> >
>
>
> http://misst74.blogspot.com/2006/11/grand-opening-weekend.html
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Date: 02 Dec 2006 21:01:58
From: Joe Long
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FellKnight wrote:
> I'd like to clear up some misconceptions about my move to Kingman.
>
> Let's start at the beginning.
...
> I thank you all for your wishes of good luck, and your constructive
> criticism. For those that live in the SoCal/NoCal/Vegas/Phoenix Areas, I
> hope to meet/meet again many of you soon.
>
> Fell
I haven't read r.g.p for a while (been too busy) and then come back to this!
Others have already responded with good advice, and warnings about the
pitfalls, I won't add to either.
My very best wishes to both of your for success in your ventures. I
hope to hook up the next time I'm in Vegas.
--
Joe Long aka ChipRider
Somewhere on the Range
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