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Date: 01 Dec 2006 15:08:53
From: igotskillz com
Subject: Emails from UB UB DOESN'T LIKE TO PAY
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Please note the dates
Everytime i win a significant amount of money, these douchebags refuse to
cashout through a methos which they have agreed upon.
I wont play there anymore because i don't trust them
Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 00:56:49 -0500
From: cashier@ultimatebet.com View Contact Details Add Mobile Alert
Subject: RE:Cashier Support Form Submission [#5043460]
To: ilikepoker@igotskillz.com
Dear Sir/Madam ,
Thank you for taking the time to contact us to resolve this matter.
Your withdrawal was cancelled back to your Ultimatebet account due to a
name discrepancy.
UltimateBet absolutely cannot process a Neteller transfer unless the
name registered with UltimateBet matches name listed with Neteller. This
policy is in place to minimize the potential for fraudulent activity
and to protect our clients, thus this policy is strictly enforced.
The name you currently have listed with UltimateBet does not match the
name on your Neteller account.
In order to update your name with UltimateBet or in the case of spouses
sharing the same Neteller account, we require confirmation of identity
before proceeding with your withdrawal.
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:06:20 -0500
From: cashier@ultimatebet.com View Contact Details Add Mobile Alert
Subject: 1000288586 [#5041809]
To: ilikepoker@igotskillz.com
Please be advised that your withdrawal #1000288586 has been cancelled
and re-deposited to your UltimateBet account.
UltimateBet absolutely cannot process a Neteller transfer unless the
name registered with UltimateBet matches name listed with Neteller. This
policy is in place to minimize the potential for fraudulent activity
and to protect our clients, thus this policy is strictly enforced.
The name you currently have listed with UltimateBet does not match the
name on your Neteller account.
In order to update your name with UltimateBet or in the case of spouses
sharing the same Neteller account, we require confirmation of identity
before proceeding with your withdrawal.
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:25:04 -0500
From: memberservices@ultimatebet.com Add to Address Book Add Mobile
Alert
Subject: RE:TOMMY [#4965395]
To: webmaster@igotskillz.com
Kevin,
If I am not mistaken you had this concern a few months ago in regards
to your account and your ability to receive rake back. In this incident
I believe that the information led us to the conclusion that you would
have no problem playing under this account. I will follow up with my
affiliate manager and make sure that this is still a possibility. Thank
you for your patience on this matter and best of luck at the tables.
Tommy
Ultimatebet.com
--Original Message--
From: webmaster@igotskillz.com
Date: 11/17/06
To: memberservices@ultimatebet.com
Subject: TOMMY[#4965395]
I got an odd email from a "host" saying he got my email from somewhere
i dont use it. I know i do whine sometimes and maybe that was the point
he was trying to make. He called me Mike in the email, that isn't my
name. All i can get from the hosts email is that he used the wrong name
for me and an email that would take some searching to find.
If i have ever been a problem at a table, please let me know. I can
forget about the email either way.
Am i still able to use my wifes acct and cashout thru mine ?
She and i are seperated but i can still use her poker accts. based on
our laws and legal agreements.
I use hers to get the rakeback.
I recently had an issue w/cashier saying i cant cash the money out.
Now i won the money fairly and i dont "have" to tell you all this but
i feel that being honest is the best way.
There is nothing legally barring me from using her acct. on my end.
Our agreement left the poker accts in my name. I'm willing to not use it
if you want but i will play at UB a whole lot less as in the long run
the rake makes a difference to me. I do start and play short tables.
When my wife was here we used firepay but that is no longer
available.
Presently the cash is in my acct. Is there a timeframe to leave it
there before withdrawal ?
If it's impossible to cashout then could you please send a check here
via a courier ?
If you do want to call my phone number is 508-410-0905.
I would like to add that about 95% of my postings at Recpoker with
regards to UB have been really good. Just a week ago a new player was
asking what site had the best graphics and i said UB was. I heard your co
was purchased by Absolute. Will you be pooling players ? PLEASE don't
change the graphics at UB. Seeing AP at every seat at Absolute was
enough to chase me away.
Thanks for the attention in this matter. Kevin Coxen
memberservices@ultimatebet.com wrote:
Kevin,
How can I help you? Would you like me to give you a call?
Tommy
Ultimatebet.com
--Original Message--
From: webmaster@igotskillz.com
Date: 11/16/06
To: memberservices@ultimatebet.com
Subject: Re: Payment [#4233432]
Hi
Is Tommy still working at your site ?
I'd appreciate an email from him.
memberservices@ultimatebet.com wrote:
Kevin,
I have been informed that your payment has been released and you should
not have a problem with this in the future. If anything else comes up
please let me know.
Tommy
Ultimatebet.com
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 21:54:35 -0500
From: cashier@ultimatebet.com View Contact Details Add Mobile Alert
Subject: RE:Re: No Subject [#4960745]
To: ilikepoker@igotskillz.com
Dear Sir/Madam ,
Thank you for your e-mail, Your wife can withdrawal the funds from her
account to any of our other withdrawal options:
Neteller http://www.neteller.com/home/index.jsf
Citadel http://www.citadelcommerce.com/
Echeck Offered By UltimateBet
Direct Deposit Offered By UltimateBet
My Citadel https://www.mycitadel.com/
Click2Pay http://www.click2pay.com/
MoneyBookers http://www.moneybookers.com/app/
If you wish to play with the transfer then that is great, any winnings
you have can be cashed out any method you wish
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 12:49:04 -0500
From: cashier@ultimatebet.com View Contact Details Add Mobile Alert
Subject: No Subject [#4960745]
To: ilikepoker@igotskillz.com
Dear Sir/Madam ,
Please be advised that your account has been subject to a random
security check. Upon verification of your play history, we see that you
are
requesting a withdrawal of $1000 and this amount was not accumulated
from game-play. The funds come from transfers from other players.
Our site is audited by the Kahnawake Gaming Commission, thus we cannot
be seen as any kind of banking facility. Please note that the transfer
option is in the game to enhance your gaming experience and to provide
associated players, who do not have alternative deposit methods, a
means of funding their account. The transfer option is not to be used as a
means of withdrawing from another players account.
Please transfer the funds back to the original player so it can be
withdrawn.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Sincerely,
Amy
Withdrawal Department
Thank YOU
www.igotskillz.com
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Date: 02 Dec
From: jd00123
Subject: Re: Emails from UB UB DOESN'T LIKE TO PAY
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On Dec 1 2006 5:08 PM, igotskillz com wrote:
> Please note the dates
> Everytime i win a significant amount of money, these douchebags refuse to
> cashout through a methos which they have agreed upon.
Really. Yet you continue to try.
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Date: 01 Dec 23:24:09
From: Up Front Poker
Subject: Re: Emails from UB UB DOESN'T LIKE TO PAY
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Now you know where your ex Phillo.........wife went to work. Hope it works out
On Dec 1 2006 5:08 PM, igotskillz com wrote:
> Please note the dates
> Everytime i win a significant amount of money, these douchebags refuse to
> cashout through a methos which they have agreed upon.
>
> I wont play there anymore because i don't trust them
>
>
> Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 00:56:49 -0500
> From: cashier@ultimatebet.com View Contact Details Add Mobile Alert
> Subject: RE:Cashier Support Form Submission [#5043460]
> To: ilikepoker@igotskillz.com
>
>
> Dear Sir/Madam ,
>
> Thank you for taking the time to contact us to resolve this matter.
>
> Your withdrawal was cancelled back to your Ultimatebet account due to a
> name discrepancy.
>
> UltimateBet absolutely cannot process a Neteller transfer unless the
> name registered with UltimateBet matches name listed with Neteller. This
> policy is in place to minimize the potential for fraudulent activity
> and to protect our clients, thus this policy is strictly enforced.
>
> The name you currently have listed with UltimateBet does not match the
> name on your Neteller account.
>
> In order to update your name with UltimateBet or in the case of spouses
> sharing the same Neteller account, we require confirmation of identity
> before proceeding with your withdrawal.
>
>
>
> Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:06:20 -0500
> From: cashier@ultimatebet.com View Contact Details Add Mobile Alert
> Subject: 1000288586 [#5041809]
> To: ilikepoker@igotskillz.com
>
>
>
> Please be advised that your withdrawal #1000288586 has been cancelled
> and re-deposited to your UltimateBet account.
>
> UltimateBet absolutely cannot process a Neteller transfer unless the
> name registered with UltimateBet matches name listed with Neteller. This
> policy is in place to minimize the potential for fraudulent activity
> and to protect our clients, thus this policy is strictly enforced.
>
> The name you currently have listed with UltimateBet does not match the
> name on your Neteller account.
>
> In order to update your name with UltimateBet or in the case of spouses
> sharing the same Neteller account, we require confirmation of identity
> before proceeding with your withdrawal.
>
>
> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:25:04 -0500
> From: memberservices@ultimatebet.com Add to Address Book Add Mobile
> Alert
> Subject: RE:TOMMY [#4965395]
> To: webmaster@igotskillz.com
>
>
> Kevin,
>
> If I am not mistaken you had this concern a few months ago in regards
> to your account and your ability to receive rake back. In this incident
> I believe that the information led us to the conclusion that you would
> have no problem playing under this account. I will follow up with my
> affiliate manager and make sure that this is still a possibility. Thank
> you for your patience on this matter and best of luck at the tables.
>
> Tommy
> Ultimatebet.com
>
>
>
>
> --Original Message--
> From: webmaster@igotskillz.com
> Date: 11/17/06
> To: memberservices@ultimatebet.com
> Subject: TOMMY[#4965395]
>
> I got an odd email from a "host" saying he got my email from somewhere
> i dont use it. I know i do whine sometimes and maybe that was the point
> he was trying to make. He called me Mike in the email, that isn't my
> name. All i can get from the hosts email is that he used the wrong name
> for me and an email that would take some searching to find.
>
> If i have ever been a problem at a table, please let me know. I can
> forget about the email either way.
>
> Am i still able to use my wifes acct and cashout thru mine ?
>
> She and i are seperated but i can still use her poker accts. based on
> our laws and legal agreements.
>
> I use hers to get the rakeback.
>
> I recently had an issue w/cashier saying i cant cash the money out.
>
> Now i won the money fairly and i dont "have" to tell you all this but
> i feel that being honest is the best way.
>
> There is nothing legally barring me from using her acct. on my end.
> Our agreement left the poker accts in my name. I'm willing to not use it
> if you want but i will play at UB a whole lot less as in the long run
> the rake makes a difference to me. I do start and play short tables.
>
> When my wife was here we used firepay but that is no longer
> available.
>
> Presently the cash is in my acct. Is there a timeframe to leave it
> there before withdrawal ?
> If it's impossible to cashout then could you please send a check here
> via a courier ?
>
> If you do want to call my phone number is 508-410-0905.
>
> I would like to add that about 95% of my postings at Recpoker with
> regards to UB have been really good. Just a week ago a new player was
> asking what site had the best graphics and i said UB was. I heard your co
> was purchased by Absolute. Will you be pooling players ? PLEASE don't
> change the graphics at UB. Seeing AP at every seat at Absolute was
> enough to chase me away.
>
> Thanks for the attention in this matter. Kevin Coxen
>
> memberservices@ultimatebet.com wrote:
>
> Kevin,
>
> How can I help you? Would you like me to give you a call?
>
> Tommy
> Ultimatebet.com
>
>
>
> --Original Message--
> From: webmaster@igotskillz.com
> Date: 11/16/06
> To: memberservices@ultimatebet.com
> Subject: Re: Payment [#4233432]
>
> Hi
>
> Is Tommy still working at your site ?
>
> I'd appreciate an email from him.
>
> memberservices@ultimatebet.com wrote:
>
> Kevin,
>
> I have been informed that your payment has been released and you should
> not have a problem with this in the future. If anything else comes up
> please let me know.
>
> Tommy
> Ultimatebet.com
>
> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 21:54:35 -0500
> From: cashier@ultimatebet.com View Contact Details Add Mobile Alert
> Subject: RE:Re: No Subject [#4960745]
> To: ilikepoker@igotskillz.com
>
>
> Dear Sir/Madam ,
>
> Thank you for your e-mail, Your wife can withdrawal the funds from her
> account to any of our other withdrawal options:
>
> Neteller http://www.neteller.com/home/index.jsf
> Citadel http://www.citadelcommerce.com/
> Echeck Offered By UltimateBet
> Direct Deposit Offered By UltimateBet
> My Citadel https://www.mycitadel.com/
> Click2Pay http://www.click2pay.com/
> MoneyBookers http://www.moneybookers.com/app/
>
> If you wish to play with the transfer then that is great, any winnings
> you have can be cashed out any method you wish
>
> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 12:49:04 -0500
> From: cashier@ultimatebet.com View Contact Details Add Mobile Alert
> Subject: No Subject [#4960745]
> To: ilikepoker@igotskillz.com
>
>
> Dear Sir/Madam ,
> Please be advised that your account has been subject to a random
> security check. Upon verification of your play history, we see that you
> are
> requesting a withdrawal of $1000 and this amount was not accumulated
> from game-play. The funds come from transfers from other players.
>
> Our site is audited by the Kahnawake Gaming Commission, thus we cannot
> be seen as any kind of banking facility. Please note that the transfer
> option is in the game to enhance your gaming experience and to provide
> associated players, who do not have alternative deposit methods, a
> means of funding their account. The transfer option is not to be used as a
> means of withdrawing from another players account.
>
> Please transfer the funds back to the original player so it can be
> withdrawn.
>
> Thank you for your attention to this matter.
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Amy
> Withdrawal Department
>
>
>
> Thank YOU
>
> http://www.igotskillz.com/
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 15:24:52
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: Emails from UB UB DOESN'T LIKE TO PAY
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> UltimateBet absolutely cannot process a Neteller transfer unless the
> name registered with UltimateBet matches name listed with Neteller. This
> policy is in place to minimize the potential for fraudulent activity
> and to protect our clients, thus this policy is strictly enforced.
>
> The name you currently have listed with UltimateBet does not match the
> name on your Neteller account.
>
> In order to update your name with UltimateBet or in the case of spouses
> sharing the same Neteller account, we require confirmation of identity
> before proceeding with your withdrawal.
They aren't picking you out to harass you here. This is their policy, and
is an automatic email kicked out from the system. It's real easy to fix
this. 1) go to Neteller and change the name on your account to the name
on the UB account before processing the withdrawl. 2) read the last
paragraph and go through identity confirmation with them for whatever name
is on the other account.
It's not rocket science. If you'd take the time to read their emails, you
could figure out what they are asking.
Morphy
http://donkeymanifesto.blogspot.com
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 19:49:55
From: A Man Beaten by Jacks
Subject: Re: Emails from UB UB DOESN'T LIKE TO PAY
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On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 15:24:52 -0800, "XaQ Morphy" <a1c5905@webnntp.invalid >
wrote:
>They aren't picking you out to harass you here. This is their policy, and
>is an automatic email kicked out from the system. It's real easy to fix
>this. 1) go to Neteller and change the name on your account to the name
>on the UB account before processing the withdrawl. 2) read the last
>paragraph and go through identity confirmation with them for whatever name
>is on the other account.
>It's not rocket science. If you'd take the time to read their emails, you
>could figure out what they are asking.
But it's much more fun to fill up rgp with kooky nut rants!
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 17:46:09
From: igotskillz com
Subject: Re: Emails from UB UB DOESN'T LIKE TO PAY
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On Dec 1 2006 8:49 PM, A Man Beaten by Jacks wrote:
> On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 15:24:52 -0800, "XaQ Morphy" <a1c5905@webnntp.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> >They aren't picking you out to harass you here. This is their policy, and
> >is an automatic email kicked out from the system. It's real easy to fix
> >this. 1) go to Neteller and change the name on your account to the name
> >on the UB account before processing the withdrawl. 2) read the last
> >paragraph and go through identity confirmation with them for whatever name
> >is on the other account.
>
> >It's not rocket science. If you'd take the time to read their emails, you
> >could figure out what they are asking.
>
> But it's much more fun to fill up rgp with kooky nut rants!
THEY AGREED TO DO IT THE OTHER WAY, WHY WOULD I BELIEVE THESE EMAILS
Thank YOU
www.igotskillz.com
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Date: 02 Dec 2006 08:44:12
From: Russell Patterson
Subject: Re: Emails from UB UB DOESN'T LIKE TO PAY
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On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 17:46:09 -0800, "igotskillz com"
<a7cd0d4@webnntp.invalid > wrote:
>On Dec 1 2006 8:49 PM, A Man Beaten by Jacks wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 15:24:52 -0800, "XaQ Morphy" <a1c5905@webnntp.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >They aren't picking you out to harass you here. This is their policy, and
>> >is an automatic email kicked out from the system. It's real easy to fix
>> >this. 1) go to Neteller and change the name on your account to the name
>> >on the UB account before processing the withdrawl. 2) read the last
>> >paragraph and go through identity confirmation with them for whatever name
>> >is on the other account.
>>
>> >It's not rocket science. If you'd take the time to read their emails, you
>> >could figure out what they are asking.
>>
>> But it's much more fun to fill up rgp with kooky nut rants!
>
>THEY AGREED TO DO IT THE OTHER WAY, WHY WOULD I BELIEVE THESE EMAILS
>Thank YOU
>
I didn't do a thourough analysis of the emails, but what I did notice
is they said that you could play on that account. They didn't say you
could withdraw from it. You may have asked that question, but they
may nopt have answered it directly.
>www.igotskillz.com
>
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Date: 02 Dec 2006 00:06:20
From: Mr_T
Subject: Re: Emails from UB UB DOESN'T LIKE TO PAY
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On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 15:24:52 -0800, "XaQ Morphy" <a1c5905@webnntp.invalid >
wrote:
>> UltimateBet absolutely cannot process a Neteller transfer unless the
>> name registered with UltimateBet matches name listed with Neteller. This
>> policy is in place to minimize the potential for fraudulent activity
>> and to protect our clients, thus this policy is strictly enforced.
>>
>> The name you currently have listed with UltimateBet does not match the
>> name on your Neteller account.
>>
>> In order to update your name with UltimateBet or in the case of spouses
>> sharing the same Neteller account, we require confirmation of identity
>> before proceeding with your withdrawal.
>
>They aren't picking you out to harass you here. This is their policy, and
>is an automatic email kicked out from the system. It's real easy to fix
>this. 1) go to Neteller and change the name on your account to the name
>on the UB account before processing the withdrawl. 2) read the last
>paragraph and go through identity confirmation with them for whatever name
>is on the other account.
I've followed almost the exact steps you outline but it was to make sure
email addresses matched. It wasn't that difficult.
>It's not rocket science. If you'd take the time to read their emails, you
>could figure out what they are asking.
I guess it was easier to go play higher limits (and lose the money) then
bitch about how UB was out to get him.
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Date: 01 Dec 23:53:29
From: monkeyman
Subject: Re: Emails from UB UB DOESN'T LIKE TO PAY
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i think it is reasonable to assume that you posted your email address somewhere,
and that is why you got an email from a "host". afterall, didn't you just post
your phone number?
On Dec 1 2006 3:24 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:
> > UltimateBet absolutely cannot process a Neteller transfer unless the
> > name registered with UltimateBet matches name listed with Neteller. This
> > policy is in place to minimize the potential for fraudulent activity
> > and to protect our clients, thus this policy is strictly enforced.
> >
> > The name you currently have listed with UltimateBet does not match the
> > name on your Neteller account.
> >
> > In order to update your name with UltimateBet or in the case of spouses
> > sharing the same Neteller account, we require confirmation of identity
> > before proceeding with your withdrawal.
>
> They aren't picking you out to harass you here. This is their policy, and
> is an automatic email kicked out from the system. It's real easy to fix
> this. 1) go to Neteller and change the name on your account to the name
> on the UB account before processing the withdrawl. 2) read the last
> paragraph and go through identity confirmation with them for whatever name
> is on the other account.
>
> It's not rocket science. If you'd take the time to read their emails, you
> could figure out what they are asking.
>
> Morphy
> http://donkeymanifesto.blogspot.com/
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