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Date: 11 Dec 2006 19:51:16
From: number6
Subject: Dumping Chips to get a Buddy in ...
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It was bubble time to advance to round in this aussie millions freeroll
... 36 get in and 37 were left ... for quite a while in fact ... very
slow hand for hand ... so I visited the table with the low stack 5800
and he just entered the 5000 BB ...so down to 800 ... 2 callers to him
...this could be it next hand ... then he raised 800 and they both
bailed ...now he was up to 20K with the antes ...
Seems like cheating to me ...
How common is this ... ???
I mean if your not minh the master ...
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Date: 12 Dec 2006 05:33:17
From: Auggie
Subject: Re: Dumping Chips to get a Buddy in ...
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"number6" <snumber6@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1165895476.511915.156800@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> It was bubble time to advance to round in this aussie millions freeroll
> ... 36 get in and 37 were left ... for quite a while in fact ... very
> slow hand for hand ... so I visited the table with the low stack 5800
> and he just entered the 5000 BB ...so down to 800 ... 2 callers to him
> ...this could be it next hand ... then he raised 800 and they both
> bailed ...now he was up to 20K with the antes ...
> Seems like cheating to me ...
> How common is this ... ???
> I mean if your not minh the master ...
Happens all the time.
Its why the freeroll tournaments on PokerStars now have an ante in them at
the higher levels. It used to be they didn't and the game went on a good
hour to an hour and a half longer than they needed to
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Date: 11 Dec 2006 21:05:12
From: pokerchimp
Subject: Re: Dumping Chips to get a Buddy in ...
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It's not uncommon. See my recent thread on getting owned and humiliated
in a tourney.
On Dec 11 2006 10:51 PM, number6 wrote:
> It was bubble time to advance to round in this aussie millions freeroll
> .... 36 get in and 37 were left ... for quite a while in fact ... very
> slow hand for hand ... so I visited the table with the low stack 5800
> and he just entered the 5000 BB ...so down to 800 ... 2 callers to him
> ....this could be it next hand ... then he raised 800 and they both
> bailed ...now he was up to 20K with the antes ...
> Seems like cheating to me ...
> How common is this ... ???
> I mean if your not minh the master ...
thumbers on stars, dieseldyke on absolute/vegaspoker24/7
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Date: 11 Dec 2006 22:50:41
From: Kinnipak
Subject: Re: Dumping Chips to get a Buddy in ...
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On Dec 11 2006 11:05 PM, pokerchimp wrote:
> It's not uncommon. See my recent thread on getting owned and humiliated
> in a tourney.
chimp...you must lighten up.....this may sound dumb...but have you read
Zen and the Art of poker?
I like reading your posts...you are obviously a serious player....
But " See my recent thread on getting owned and humiliated
in a tourney."
That's just defeatest talk....
Walk it off...
Seriously...
:-)
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Date: 12 Dec 2006 05:11:25
From: pokerchimp
Subject: Re: Dumping Chips to get a Buddy in ...
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On Dec 12 2006 1:50 AM, Kinnipak wrote:
> On Dec 11 2006 11:05 PM, pokerchimp wrote:
>
> > It's not uncommon. See my recent thread on getting owned and humiliated
> > in a tourney.
>
> chimp...you must lighten up.....this may sound dumb...but have you read
> Zen and the Art of poker?
>
> I like reading your posts...you are obviously a serious player....
>
> But " See my recent thread on getting owned and humiliated
> in a tourney."
>
> That's just defeatest talk....
>
> Walk it off...
>
> Seriously...
>
> :-)
I am not a defeatest. I was just giving an accurate analysis of the
situation. A combination of factors led to my busting on the bubble of
that tournament. One of the main factors was that one of the chip leaders
in the tourney was dumping to the low stack in order put me out first and
exact revenge for an earlier beat. The reason he was successful is that
this was a tourney that paid out in seats, with all prizes being equal.
His strategy was excellent to achieve his goal, and he succeeded. My
strategy was poor, in that I knew what his strategy was and still couldn't
(or didn't) out maneuver him.
I very rarely get rattled in a poker game. I did and I suffered for it.
I knew it effected me so I wrote the post to blow off steam, and took a
few hours off.
BTW, Zen and the Art of Poker is on the toilet tank top for serious
bathroom visits. Most of the time I can live in the moment and retain
focus. Unfortunately I have a chink in my armor, and it hasn't been going
well lately anyway of late, which is why I am in the LL tourney instead of
in a bigger game. I like to think I know when to pull back and regroup.
A few hours time off and I was OK.
Thanks for caring and your nice comments on my posts. :)
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Date: 12 Dec 2006 06:36:00
From: Kinnipak
Subject: Re: Dumping Chips to get a Buddy in ...
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On Dec 12 2006 7:11 AM, pokerchimp wrote:
> On Dec 12 2006 1:50 AM, Kinnipak wrote:
>
> > On Dec 11 2006 11:05 PM, pokerchimp wrote:
> >
> > > It's not uncommon. See my recent thread on getting owned and humiliated
> > > in a tourney.
> >
> > chimp...you must lighten up.....this may sound dumb...but have you read
> > Zen and the Art of poker?
> >
> > I like reading your posts...you are obviously a serious player....
> >
> > But " See my recent thread on getting owned and humiliated
> > in a tourney."
> >
> > That's just defeatest talk....
> >
> > Walk it off...
> >
> > Seriously...
> >
> > :-)
>
> I am not a defeatest. I was just giving an accurate analysis of the
> situation. A combination of factors led to my busting on the bubble of
> that tournament. One of the main factors was that one of the chip leaders
> in the tourney was dumping to the low stack in order put me out first and
> exact revenge for an earlier beat. The reason he was successful is that
> this was a tourney that paid out in seats, with all prizes being equal.
> His strategy was excellent to achieve his goal, and he succeeded. My
> strategy was poor, in that I knew what his strategy was and still couldn't
> (or didn't) out maneuver him.
>
> I very rarely get rattled in a poker game. I did and I suffered for it.
> I knew it effected me so I wrote the post to blow off steam, and took a
> few hours off.
>
> BTW, Zen and the Art of Poker is on the toilet tank top for serious
> bathroom visits. Most of the time I can live in the moment and retain
> focus. Unfortunately I have a chink in my armor, and it hasn't been going
> well lately anyway of late, which is why I am in the LL tourney instead of
> in a bigger game. I like to think I know when to pull back and regroup.
> A few hours time off and I was OK.
>
> Thanks for caring and your nice comments on my posts. :)
> thumbers on stars, dieseldyke on absolute/vegaspoker24/7
my apologies. It sounded to me like you were really consumed with that
loss. Didn't seem like you...even for you.
:-)
No harm no foul.
and just so ya know...ZATAOP actually IS on top of my toilet tank. You do
make great reads.....
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Date: 12 Dec 2006 06:42:31
From: pokerchimp
Subject: Re: Dumping Chips to get a Buddy in ...
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you are a sweetie Kinnipak :)
On Dec 12 2006 9:36 AM, Kinnipak wrote:
> On Dec 12 2006 7:11 AM, pokerchimp wrote:
>
> > On Dec 12 2006 1:50 AM, Kinnipak wrote:
> >
> > > On Dec 11 2006 11:05 PM, pokerchimp wrote:
> > >
> > > > It's not uncommon. See my recent thread on getting owned and
humiliated
> > > > in a tourney.
> > >
> > > chimp...you must lighten up.....this may sound dumb...but have you read
> > > Zen and the Art of poker?
> > >
> > > I like reading your posts...you are obviously a serious player....
> > >
> > > But " See my recent thread on getting owned and humiliated
> > > in a tourney."
> > >
> > > That's just defeatest talk....
> > >
> > > Walk it off...
> > >
> > > Seriously...
> > >
> > > :-)
> >
> > I am not a defeatest. I was just giving an accurate analysis of the
> > situation. A combination of factors led to my busting on the bubble of
> > that tournament. One of the main factors was that one of the chip leaders
> > in the tourney was dumping to the low stack in order put me out first and
> > exact revenge for an earlier beat. The reason he was successful is that
> > this was a tourney that paid out in seats, with all prizes being equal.
> > His strategy was excellent to achieve his goal, and he succeeded. My
> > strategy was poor, in that I knew what his strategy was and still couldn't
> > (or didn't) out maneuver him.
> >
> > I very rarely get rattled in a poker game. I did and I suffered for it.
> > I knew it effected me so I wrote the post to blow off steam, and took a
> > few hours off.
> >
> > BTW, Zen and the Art of Poker is on the toilet tank top for serious
> > bathroom visits. Most of the time I can live in the moment and retain
> > focus. Unfortunately I have a chink in my armor, and it hasn't been going
> > well lately anyway of late, which is why I am in the LL tourney instead of
> > in a bigger game. I like to think I know when to pull back and regroup.
> > A few hours time off and I was OK.
> >
> > Thanks for caring and your nice comments on my posts. :)
> > thumbers on stars, dieseldyke on absolute/vegaspoker24/7
>
> my apologies. It sounded to me like you were really consumed with that
> loss. Didn't seem like you...even for you.
>
> :-)
>
> No harm no foul.
>
> and just so ya know...ZATAOP actually IS on top of my toilet tank. You do
> make great reads.....
thumbers on stars, dieseldyke on absolute/vegaspoker24/7
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Date: 12 Dec
From: Porsche_Dan
Subject: Re: Dumping Chips to get a Buddy in ...
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It's a possible big stack strategy for bubble play. Keep a small stack in and
steal from the medium stacks.
On Dec 11 2006 11:05 PM, pokerchimp wrote:
> It's not uncommon. See my recent thread on getting owned and humiliated
> in a tourney.
>
> On Dec 11 2006 10:51 PM, number6 wrote:
>
> > It was bubble time to advance to round in this aussie millions freeroll
> > .... 36 get in and 37 were left ... for quite a while in fact ... very
> > slow hand for hand ... so I visited the table with the low stack 5800
> > and he just entered the 5000 BB ...so down to 800 ... 2 callers to him
> > ....this could be it next hand ... then he raised 800 and they both
> > bailed ...now he was up to 20K with the antes ...
> > Seems like cheating to me ...
> > How common is this ... ???
> > I mean if your not minh the master ...
>
>
> thumbers on stars, dieseldyke on absolute/vegaspoker24/7
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Date: 12 Dec 15:20:38
From: steve1127
Subject: Re: Dumping Chips to get a Buddy in ...
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On Dec 12 2006 12:31 AM, Porsche_Dan wrote:
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> It's a possible big stack strategy for bubble play. Keep a small stack in and
> steal from the medium stacks. \
Um...it was a satellite, I don't think the big stacks have much incentive to
keep the baby stacks in.
>
> On Dec 11 2006 11:05 PM, pokerchimp wrote:
>
> > It's not uncommon. See my recent thread on getting owned and humiliated
> > in a tourney.
> >
> > On Dec 11 2006 10:51 PM, number6 wrote:
> >
> > > It was bubble time to advance to round in this aussie millions freeroll
> > > .... 36 get in and 37 were left ... for quite a while in fact ... very
> > > slow hand for hand ... so I visited the table with the low stack 5800
> > > and he just entered the 5000 BB ...so down to 800 ... 2 callers to him
> > > ....this could be it next hand ... then he raised 800 and they both
> > > bailed ...now he was up to 20K with the antes ...
> > > Seems like cheating to me ...
> > > How common is this ... ???
> > > I mean if your not minh the master ...
> >
> >
> > thumbers on stars, dieseldyke on absolute/vegaspoker24/7
>
>
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Date: 12 Dec 2006 12:55:06
From: Tom Cruise's Ex-Girlfriend's Secret Lover
Subject: Re: Dumping Chips to get a Buddy in ...
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"Porsche_Dan" <43080932@recpoker.com > wrote in message
news:1165901485$920136@recpoker.com...
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> It's a possible big stack strategy for bubble play. Keep a small stack in
> and
> steal from the medium stacks.
There's a good post on PocketFives about doing this. But the problem is,
you have to have perfect position relative to the stacks.
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