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Date: 06 Dec 14:59:31
From: CHarrison100
Subject: Could I have done any better? BAHH
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I sat down at the table and was just starting out. .05/.10 with a $5 max buy-in.
I bought in for the max and have only played one hand and lost. One thing I know
is these guys know something about the game as three of them have tripled the
max buy-in.
The players are not showing down very much.
Is there a way I could have played this better?
1 (5.50 in chips)
2 (14.25 in chips)
3 (3.50 in chips)
4 (4.20 in chips) ME
5 (18.10 in chips)
6 (15.20 in chips)
5: posts small blind .05
6: posts big blind .10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ME [Qh Kd]
1 folds
2 folds
3 folds
4 ME Bet .50
5: folds
6: Calls
*** FLOP *** [Ad As Qc]
6: Checks
4 ME: Bet 1.50
6: Calls
*** TURN *** [Ad As Qc] [Qd]
6: Checks
4 ME: 2.20 and is all in
6: Calls
4 ME: Turns over [Qh Kd]
6: Turns over [Ac, 3C]
*** RIVER *** [Ad As Qc Qd] [Ah]
I bought back in for another $5 and ended the session up $15 but this hand is
staying with me. I keep thinking I should have pushed the 2 pair but knowing his
hand now i don't think i stood a chance of pushing him out given my stack.
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Date: 06 Dec 18:41:32
From: CHarrison100
Subject: Re: Could I have done any better? BAHH
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Thanks all. I think I understand where i went wrong.
1) over valued my hand
2) put too much in as a "feeler" after the flop
3) didn't consider what my opponent might be holding to keep calling
Thanks again. As always you have helped me see the errors of my fishy ways.
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Date: 06 Dec 2006 08:48:57
From: MysteriAce
Subject: Re: Could I have done any better? BAHH
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On Dec 6 2006 7:59 AM, CHarrison100 wrote:
> I sat down at the table and was just starting out. .05/.10 with a $5 max
buy-in.
> I bought in for the max and have only played one hand and lost. One thing I
know
> is these guys know something about the game as three of them have tripled the
> max buy-in.
That doesn't mean much. They could have tripled out of luck and
stupidity. I've seen plenty of folks, even at 1/2 NL, who have two or
three times the buy in when I sit down but demonstrate their total lack of
understanding of the game by handing it out to the table in chunks.
> The players are not showing down very much.
>
> Is there a way I could have played this better?
> 1 (5.50 in chips)
> 2 (14.25 in chips)
> 3 (3.50 in chips)
> 4 (4.20 in chips) ME
> 5 (18.10 in chips)
> 6 (15.20 in chips)
> 5: posts small blind .05
> 6: posts big blind .10
> *** HOLE CARDS ***
> Dealt to ME [Qh Kd]
> 1 folds
> 2 folds
> 3 folds
> 4 ME Bet .50
Kind of a big raise, first in, but not bad.
> 5: folds
> 6: Calls
> *** FLOP *** [Ad As Qc]
> 6: Checks
> 4 ME: Bet 1.50
> 6: Calls
Good to bet, but the call here should set off warning bells. What kinds
of hands would this person check/call an overbet with here? You'll find
that a lot of them include an ace.
Side note: I would have bet less here. There's only 1.05 in the pot
preflop since it's just you and the big blind. You could get pretty much
the same information by betting half as much, and a side effect of that is
that you would also have an easier time acting on that info, since the pot
wouldn't be so enormous (compared to your stack) going into the turn.
> *** TURN *** [Ad As Qc] [Qd]
> 6: Checks
> 4 ME: 2.20 and is all in
This bet is just awful. What hand could call that you would ever beat?
You could very well get called by a Q, which is a chop, but you definitely
get called by an A. I can't see any other hands that would play with you
at this point. Even JJ, which might call you down under some
circumstances is counterfeited by the Q and is folding now.
> 6: Calls
> 4 ME: Turns over [Qh Kd]
> 6: Turns over [Ac, 3C]
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> *** RIVER *** [Ad As Qc Qd] [Ah]
>
> I bought back in for another $5 and ended the session up $15 but this hand is
> staying with me. I keep thinking I should have pushed the 2 pair but knowing
his
> hand now i don't think i stood a chance of pushing him out given my stack.
No. Pushing with your two pair is suicidal. He's not likely at all to
call at that point unless he has an A, and, if he doesn't have an A you
are in great shape and want him to stick around.
Bet less next time, not more, and then think about what it means when he
calls you.
~ MysteriAce
"Ashes and diamonds
Foe and friend
We were all equal in the end"
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Date: 06 Dec 16:33:15
From: Teabagger
Subject: Re: Could I have done any better? BAHH
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The call indicates an ace. In these What else would he call with? After the
flop, I'm done with the hand.
On Dec 6 2006 9:59 AM, CHarrison100 wrote:
> I sat down at the table and was just starting out. .05/.10 with a $5 max
> buy-in.
> I bought in for the max and have only played one hand and lost. One thing I
> know
> is these guys know something about the game as three of them have tripled the
> max buy-in.
>
> The players are not showing down very much.
>
> Is there a way I could have played this better?
> 1 (5.50 in chips)
> 2 (14.25 in chips)
> 3 (3.50 in chips)
> 4 (4.20 in chips) ME
> 5 (18.10 in chips)
> 6 (15.20 in chips)
> 5: posts small blind .05
> 6: posts big blind .10
> *** HOLE CARDS ***
> Dealt to ME [Qh Kd]
> 1 folds
> 2 folds
> 3 folds
> 4 ME Bet .50
> 5: folds
> 6: Calls
> *** FLOP *** [Ad As Qc]
> 6: Checks
> 4 ME: Bet 1.50
> 6: Calls
> *** TURN *** [Ad As Qc] [Qd]
> 6: Checks
> 4 ME: 2.20 and is all in
> 6: Calls
> 4 ME: Turns over [Qh Kd]
> 6: Turns over [Ac, 3C]
>
> *** RIVER *** [Ad As Qc Qd] [Ah]
>
> I bought back in for another $5 and ended the session up $15 but this hand is
> staying with me. I keep thinking I should have pushed the 2 pair but knowing
> his
> hand now i don't think i stood a chance of pushing him out given my stack.
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Date: 06 Dec 16:14:35
From: Chris Robinson
Subject: Re: Could I have done any better? BAHH
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On Dec 6 2006 9:59 AM, CHarrison100 wrote:
> I sat down at the table and was just starting out. .05/.10 with a $5 max
> buy-in.
> I bought in for the max and have only played one hand and lost. One thing I
> know
> is these guys know something about the game as three of them have tripled the
> max buy-in.
>
> The players are not showing down very much.
>
> Is there a way I could have played this better?
> 1 (5.50 in chips)
> 2 (14.25 in chips)
> 3 (3.50 in chips)
> 4 (4.20 in chips) ME
> 5 (18.10 in chips)
> 6 (15.20 in chips)
> 5: posts small blind .05
> 6: posts big blind .10
> *** HOLE CARDS ***
> Dealt to ME [Qh Kd]
> 1 folds
> 2 folds
> 3 folds
> 4 ME Bet .50
I like the raise - 1st in, put pressure on the blinds to call.
> 5: folds
> 6: Calls
Out of position but could be defending his BB too. Hard to know w/o a read. Is
this one of those guys you said had triple his buy-in though?? That could be a
clue.
> *** FLOP *** [Ad As Qc]
On the surface this is a good flop, but I'd be weary as ths is the kind of flop
people go broke on. Ax has you completely dominated.
> 6: Checks
> 4 ME: Bet 1.50
Why did you bet this much??? The pot only has $1.05 in it - why overbet??
You're only going to get one of two scenerios: a) He folds or b) You get called
by a better hand. A better bet I think is $.60 to $.80
> 6: Calls
b) A better hand called. That or they think you're bluffing and they're calling
with a K. I doubt that though.
> *** TURN *** [Ad As Qc] [Qd]
> 6: Checks
> 4 ME: 2.20 and is all in
Considering you bet the flop and the pot has $4.10 in it, you could check here
or you could raise all in. It's not a good card for you though - if they have
an ace they know it's either their pot or it's gonna get split. No way would
you bet like that with QQ. And because you've showed aggression, they know
you're putting your money in, so I may be wrong but I think you check here. See
what the river brings & see what they do.
> 6: Calls
> 4 ME: Turns over [Qh Kd]
> 6: Turns over [Ac, 3C]
It stinks that they turn over ace rag but the way the betting went you couldn't
of been surprised.
>
> *** RIVER *** [Ad As Qc Qd] [Ah]
Fitting way to end the hand.
There was absolutely no way you push him off of trip aces. You may not of been
able to bet enough pre-flop to push him off his hand either. I think you got
married to your hand & didn't recognize the warning signs soon enough. Pre-flop
was good, post-flop bet less, and I would of checked the turn. Others may
disagree with that, but I tend to play more careful when someone out of position
is smooth calling with a paired board like that (See my post from earlier
today).
>
> I bought back in for another $5 and ended the session up $15 but this hand is
> staying with me. I keep thinking I should have pushed the 2 pair but knowing
> his
> hand now i don't think i stood a chance of pushing him out given my stack.
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Date: 08 Dec 2006 07:19:09
From: ben carr
Subject: Re: Could I have done any better? BAHH
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You were behind during the entire hand, yet you were the one forcing
money into the pot. This says more, to me, about your overall
weaknesses. Forget about this one hand and ask yourself why do you
always have to be the one betting? You are just asking to be trapped,
like you were in this hand.
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Date: 08 Dec 13:07:11
From: CHarrison100
Subject: Re: Could I have done any better? BAHH
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On Dec 8 2006 7:19 AM, ben carr wrote:
> You were behind during the entire hand, yet you were the one forcing
> money into the pot. This says more, to me, about your overall
> weaknesses. Forget about this one hand and ask yourself why do you
> always have to be the one betting? You are just asking to be trapped,
> like you were in this hand.
Excellent point. looking back that seems to be a theme. Thanks
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Date: 06 Dec 15:15:33
From: freakinfoldalready
Subject: Re: Could I have done any better? BAHH
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that is rather sucky. I have my own rule about going broke with the underboat.
I dont really like the push against a check call check call. that screams trap
to me
On Dec 6 2006 9:59 AM, CHarrison100 wrote:
> I sat down at the table and was just starting out. .05/.10 with a $5 max
> buy-in.
> I bought in for the max and have only played one hand and lost. One thing I
> know
> is these guys know something about the game as three of them have tripled the
> max buy-in.
>
> The players are not showing down very much.
>
> Is there a way I could have played this better?
> 1 (5.50 in chips)
> 2 (14.25 in chips)
> 3 (3.50 in chips)
> 4 (4.20 in chips) ME
> 5 (18.10 in chips)
> 6 (15.20 in chips)
> 5: posts small blind .05
> 6: posts big blind .10
> *** HOLE CARDS ***
> Dealt to ME [Qh Kd]
> 1 folds
> 2 folds
> 3 folds
> 4 ME Bet .50
> 5: folds
> 6: Calls
> *** FLOP *** [Ad As Qc]
> 6: Checks
> 4 ME: Bet 1.50
> 6: Calls
> *** TURN *** [Ad As Qc] [Qd]
> 6: Checks
> 4 ME: 2.20 and is all in
> 6: Calls
> 4 ME: Turns over [Qh Kd]
> 6: Turns over [Ac, 3C]
>
> *** RIVER *** [Ad As Qc Qd] [Ah]
>
> I bought back in for another $5 and ended the session up $15 but this hand is
> staying with me. I keep thinking I should have pushed the 2 pair but knowing
> his
> hand now i don't think i stood a chance of pushing him out given my stack.
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Date: 06 Dec 15:15:13
From: nkks0808
Subject: Re: Could I have done any better? BAHH
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AAQ on board on flop
Q on turn
What could you have done better? Not risk anymore than .20 on that hand.
Nothing can pay you off. If they have an A you lose, a Q you tie, and no other
hand can call you.
Fold it
Wait til its QQA, then play it strong
On Dec 6 2006 8:59 AM, CHarrison100 wrote:
> I sat down at the table and was just starting out. .05/.10 with a $5 max
> buy-in.
> I bought in for the max and have only played one hand and lost. One thing I
> know
> is these guys know something about the game as three of them have tripled the
> max buy-in.
>
> The players are not showing down very much.
>
> Is there a way I could have played this better?
> 1 (5.50 in chips)
> 2 (14.25 in chips)
> 3 (3.50 in chips)
> 4 (4.20 in chips) ME
> 5 (18.10 in chips)
> 6 (15.20 in chips)
> 5: posts small blind .05
> 6: posts big blind .10
> *** HOLE CARDS ***
> Dealt to ME [Qh Kd]
> 1 folds
> 2 folds
> 3 folds
> 4 ME Bet .50
> 5: folds
> 6: Calls
> *** FLOP *** [Ad As Qc]
> 6: Checks
> 4 ME: Bet 1.50
> 6: Calls
> *** TURN *** [Ad As Qc] [Qd]
> 6: Checks
> 4 ME: 2.20 and is all in
> 6: Calls
> 4 ME: Turns over [Qh Kd]
> 6: Turns over [Ac, 3C]
>
> *** RIVER *** [Ad As Qc Qd] [Ah]
>
> I bought back in for another $5 and ended the session up $15 but this hand is
> staying with me. I keep thinking I should have pushed the 2 pair but knowing
> his
> hand now i don't think i stood a chance of pushing him out given my stack.
Niki :P
www.nikitispoker.com
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Date: 07 Dec 10:47:23
From: Nick Wool
Subject: Re: Could I have done any better? BAHH
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On Dec 6 2006 2:59 PM, CHarrison100 wrote:
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> I bought back in for another $5 and ended the session up $15 but this hand is
> staying with me. I keep thinking I should have pushed the 2 pair but knowing
> his
> hand now i don't think i stood a chance of pushing him out given my stack.
Yes, remember that there are huge differences between 2 pairs made with both
hole cards in your hand, and 2 pairs made with one of your hole cards and the
other being a pair of the board.
The former is a very strong hand, while the latter a mug's hand...in this hand,
you can certainly try to represent trips by pushing, or because you think your Q
is good, but you do not push because you have '2 pairs'.
Try to think it as a single pair always...that way you wont get confused...
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