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Date: 17 Dec 2006 23:32:43
From: Signal
Subject: Bad luck or....?
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$12k (Aussie Millions package) freeroll. Winner takes all....
1500 players, down to the last 18.
#Game No : 5513012770
***** Hand History for Game 5513012770 *****
NL Texas Hold'em Trny:30816901 Level:16 Blinds-Antes(6000/12000
-200) - Sunday, December 17, 17:49:12 ET 2006
Table PokerNews $12k Freeroll (891837) Table #1 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 2: Jennis999 ( $218343 )
Seat 3: PokerPeitch ( $234146 )
Seat 4: pocketjack42 ( $428436 )
Seat 5: jimbolimbo85 ( $363979 )
Seat 6: BaroMir ( $414125 )
Seat 7: MisterMidas ( $266017 )
Seat 8: ILoveKristinKreuk ( $86690 )
Seat 9: HerrFlick81 ( $355534 )
Seat 10: HhCMotU ( $206412 )
Trny:30816901 Level:16
Blinds-Antes(6000/12000 -200)
Jennis999 posts ante [200].
PokerPeitch posts ante [200].
pocketjack42 posts ante [200].
jimbolimbo85 posts ante [200].
BaroMir posts ante [200].
MisterMidas posts ante [200].
ILoveKristinKreuk posts ante [200].
HerrFlick81 posts ante [200].
HhCMotU posts ante [200].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to MisterMidas [ Kc Kh ]
pocketjack42 folds
jimbolimbo85 calls [12000]
BaroMir folds
MisterMidas raises [47000]
ILoveKristinKreuk folds
HerrFlick81 folds
HhCMotU folds
Jennis999 folds
PokerPeitch folds
jimbolimbo85 calls [35000]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7s, 5h, 5c ]
jimbolimbo85 checks
MisterMidas bets [200000]
jimbolimbo85 is all-In [316779]
MisterMidas is all-In [18817]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6c ]
** Dealing River ** [ 4d ]
MisterMidas shows [ Kc, Kh ]two pairs, Kings and Fives.
jimbolimbo85 shows [ 5d, Jd ]three of a kind, Fives.
jimbolimbo85 wins 97962 chips from side pot #1 with three of a kind,
Fives.
jimbolimbo85 wins 551434 chips from the main pot with three of a
kind, Fives.
Player MisterMidas finished in 18.
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Date: 18 Dec 2006 01:37:09
From: ben carr
Subject: Re: Bad luck or....?
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Were you even the least bit concerned when the board paired?
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Date: 18 Dec 2006 02:08:09
From: Signal
Subject: Re: Bad luck or....?
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By the way the question is, how would you have played this?
Signal <nobody@nowhere.com > wrote:
>$12k (Aussie Millions package) freeroll. Winner takes all....
>1500 players, down to the last 18.
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>#Game No : 5513012770
>***** Hand History for Game 5513012770 *****
>NL Texas Hold'em Trny:30816901 Level:16 Blinds-Antes(6000/12000
>-200) - Sunday, December 17, 17:49:12 ET 2006
>Table PokerNews $12k Freeroll (891837) Table #1 (Real Money)
>Seat 10 is the button
>Total number of players : 9
>Seat 2: Jennis999 ( $218343 )
>Seat 3: PokerPeitch ( $234146 )
>Seat 4: pocketjack42 ( $428436 )
>Seat 5: jimbolimbo85 ( $363979 )
>Seat 6: BaroMir ( $414125 )
>Seat 7: MisterMidas ( $266017 )
>Seat 8: ILoveKristinKreuk ( $86690 )
>Seat 9: HerrFlick81 ( $355534 )
>Seat 10: HhCMotU ( $206412 )
>Trny:30816901 Level:16
> Blinds-Antes(6000/12000 -200)
>Jennis999 posts ante [200].
>PokerPeitch posts ante [200].
>pocketjack42 posts ante [200].
>jimbolimbo85 posts ante [200].
>BaroMir posts ante [200].
>MisterMidas posts ante [200].
>ILoveKristinKreuk posts ante [200].
>HerrFlick81 posts ante [200].
>HhCMotU posts ante [200].
>** Dealing down cards **
>Dealt to MisterMidas [ Kc Kh ]
>pocketjack42 folds
>jimbolimbo85 calls [12000]
>BaroMir folds
>MisterMidas raises [47000]
>ILoveKristinKreuk folds
>HerrFlick81 folds
>HhCMotU folds
>Jennis999 folds
>PokerPeitch folds
>jimbolimbo85 calls [35000]
>** Dealing Flop ** [ 7s, 5h, 5c ]
>jimbolimbo85 checks
>MisterMidas bets [200000]
>jimbolimbo85 is all-In [316779]
>MisterMidas is all-In [18817]
>** Dealing Turn ** [ 6c ]
>** Dealing River ** [ 4d ]
>MisterMidas shows [ Kc, Kh ]two pairs, Kings and Fives.
>jimbolimbo85 shows [ 5d, Jd ]three of a kind, Fives.
>jimbolimbo85 wins 97962 chips from side pot #1 with three of a kind,
>Fives.
>jimbolimbo85 wins 551434 chips from the main pot with three of a
>kind, Fives.
>Player MisterMidas finished in 18.
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Date: 17 Dec 2006 18:52:09
From: pokerchimp
Subject: Re: Bad luck or....?
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On Dec 17 2006 9:08 PM, Signal wrote:
> By the way the question is, how would you have played this?
>
Mostly bad luck. Well, the only way you could have won the hand is if you
got the idiot to fold b4 the flop. I know you want action on your KK, but
at that point in the tourney I am probably pushing all in after a limper.
I am happy with what is in the pot. He could have limped with Ax, and you
want him to dump it. That he called a $35,000 raise with J5 suited, well,
you just can't avoid stupidity even at that level, but I don't think he
would have called a push. The thing is, I have no read on this player.
Obviously from this call he seems very loose. Has he been playing this
way all along to get to this point?
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> Signal <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
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> >$12k (Aussie Millions package) freeroll. Winner takes all....
> >1500 players, down to the last 18.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >#Game No : 5513012770
> >***** Hand History for Game 5513012770 *****
> >NL Texas Hold'em Trny:30816901 Level:16 Blinds-Antes(6000/12000
> >-200) - Sunday, December 17, 17:49:12 ET 2006
> >Table PokerNews $12k Freeroll (891837) Table #1 (Real Money)
> >Seat 10 is the button
> >Total number of players : 9
> >Seat 2: Jennis999 ( $218343 )
> >Seat 3: PokerPeitch ( $234146 )
> >Seat 4: pocketjack42 ( $428436 )
> >Seat 5: jimbolimbo85 ( $363979 )
> >Seat 6: BaroMir ( $414125 )
> >Seat 7: MisterMidas ( $266017 )
> >Seat 8: ILoveKristinKreuk ( $86690 )
> >Seat 9: HerrFlick81 ( $355534 )
> >Seat 10: HhCMotU ( $206412 )
> >Trny:30816901 Level:16
> > Blinds-Antes(6000/12000 -200)
> >Jennis999 posts ante [200].
> >PokerPeitch posts ante [200].
> >pocketjack42 posts ante [200].
> >jimbolimbo85 posts ante [200].
> >BaroMir posts ante [200].
> >MisterMidas posts ante [200].
> >ILoveKristinKreuk posts ante [200].
> >HerrFlick81 posts ante [200].
> >HhCMotU posts ante [200].
> >** Dealing down cards **
> >Dealt to MisterMidas [ Kc Kh ]
> >pocketjack42 folds
> >jimbolimbo85 calls [12000]
> >BaroMir folds
> >MisterMidas raises [47000]
> >ILoveKristinKreuk folds
> >HerrFlick81 folds
> >HhCMotU folds
> >Jennis999 folds
> >PokerPeitch folds
> >jimbolimbo85 calls [35000]
> >** Dealing Flop ** [ 7s, 5h, 5c ]
> >jimbolimbo85 checks
> >MisterMidas bets [200000]
> >jimbolimbo85 is all-In [316779]
> >MisterMidas is all-In [18817]
> >** Dealing Turn ** [ 6c ]
> >** Dealing River ** [ 4d ]
> >MisterMidas shows [ Kc, Kh ]two pairs, Kings and Fives.
> >jimbolimbo85 shows [ 5d, Jd ]three of a kind, Fives.
> >jimbolimbo85 wins 97962 chips from side pot #1 with three of a kind,
> >Fives.
> >jimbolimbo85 wins 551434 chips from the main pot with three of a
> >kind, Fives.
> >Player MisterMidas finished in 18.
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Date: 18 Dec 2006 09:43:59
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: Bad luck or....?
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> Mostly bad luck. Well, the only way you could have won the hand is if you
> got the idiot to fold b4 the flop. I know you want action on your KK, but
> at that point in the tourney I am probably pushing all in after a limper.
> I am happy with what is in the pot. He could have limped with Ax, and you
> want him to dump it. That he called a $35,000 raise with J5 suited, well,
All joking about KK being the worst hand in poker aside, why in the world
would you want him to fold Ax? The jam with KK is one thing, but if I do
it in this spot, I want Ax to call, not to fold.
Morphy
http://donkeymanifesto.blogspot.com
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Date: 18 Dec 2006 10:07:20
From: pokerchimp
Subject: Re: Bad luck or....?
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If he calls a jam with Ax that is one thing and you can't avoid it. If
I've gotten down to 18 people in a 1500 person tournament, I don't want Ax
chasing my KK, even if the odds are in my favor. I'd rather take what's
inthe pot, mostly because of personal preferance, not because of the math.
I just don't want my KK sucked out on by junk. I know this is likely
incorrect, but it's still the way I'd play it (pushing).
On Dec 18 2006 12:43 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:
> > Mostly bad luck. Well, the only way you could have won the hand is if you
> > got the idiot to fold b4 the flop. I know you want action on your KK, but
> > at that point in the tourney I am probably pushing all in after a limper.
> > I am happy with what is in the pot. He could have limped with Ax, and you
> > want him to dump it. That he called a $35,000 raise with J5 suited, well,
>
> All joking about KK being the worst hand in poker aside, why in the world
> would you want him to fold Ax? The jam with KK is one thing, but if I do
> it in this spot, I want Ax to call, not to fold.
>
> Morphy
> http://donkeymanifesto.blogspot.com
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Date: 18 Dec 2006 04:45:04
From: ben carr
Subject: Re: Bad luck or....?
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The call before the flop was only for 10% of his stack, and everyone
else folded. I have found that many people are stubborn and wont let you
take down the pot. They would rather make a bad call than let you have
the easy pot. I wasnt trying to say the hand was poorly played, it was a
rather unlucky hand. But, with the opponent limping then just calling,
you cant really put him on just high cards or a pair unless you have
seen him do it regularly. He may have been one of those people that play
anything suited, who knows? When the board pairs be cautious, thats all
I meant.
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Date: 18 Dec 2006 00:52:03
From: phlash74
Subject: Re: Bad luck or....?
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On Dec 17, 10:37 pm, up-h...@webtv.net (ben carr) wrote:
> Were you even the least bit concerned when the board paired?
His opponent limped in EP and called his raise, most people wouldn't
have a 5 there. Unfortunately, this opponent did.
Oh wait, they were sooooooooooooted. Never mind.
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