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Date: 05 Dec 2006 23:24:54
From: Rubber Biscuit
Subject: Are you Sharkscope conscious?
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Do you really care about these stats? Do you check them often to gauge your
play? Do you use it to impress people on PocketFives?
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Date: 06 Dec
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: Are you Sharkscope conscious?
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No, but I am a pokerdb.com freak.
T
On Dec 5 2006 4:24 PM, Rubber Biscuit wrote:
> Do you really care about these stats? Do you check them often to gauge your
> play? Do you use it to impress people on PocketFives?
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Date: 06 Dec 2006 08:18:48
From: beerboy
Subject: Re: Are you Sharkscope conscious?
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In news:1165387794$917052@recpoker.com,
Tanya AKA MissT74 <43084303@recpoker.com > typed:
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Date: 06 Dec 15:50:30
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: Are you Sharkscope conscious?
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On Dec 6 2006 1:18 AM, beerboy wrote:
> In news:1165387794$917052@recpoker.com,
> Tanya AKA MissT74 <43084303@recpoker.com> typed:
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Date: 06 Dec 2006 17:21:25
From: Palooka
Subject: Re: Are you Sharkscope conscious?
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"Tanya AKA MissT74" <43084303@recpoker.com > wrote in message
news:1165420230$917223@recpoker.com...
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> On Dec 6 2006 1:18 AM, beerboy wrote:
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>> In news:1165387794$917052@recpoker.com,
>> Tanya AKA MissT74 <43084303@recpoker.com> typed:
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Date: 07 Dec
From: Tanya AKA MissT74
Subject: Re: Are you Sharkscope conscious?
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On Dec 6 2006 10:21 AM, Palooka wrote:
> "Tanya AKA MissT74" <43084303@recpoker.com> wrote in message
> news:1165420230$917223@recpoker.com...
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> > On Dec 6 2006 1:18 AM, beerboy wrote:
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> >> In news:1165387794$917052@recpoker.com,
> >> Tanya AKA MissT74 <43084303@recpoker.com> typed:
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Date: 06 Dec 2006 19:52:51
From: beerboy
Subject: Re: Are you Sharkscope conscious?
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Date: 06 Dec 2006 19:49:21
From: beerboy
Subject: Re: Are you Sharkscope conscious?
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Date: 06 Dec 2006 05:37:08
From: xyious
Subject: Re: Are you Sharkscope conscious?
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On Dec 6 2006 9:18 AM, beerboy wrote:
> In news:1165387794$917052@recpoker.com,
> Tanya AKA MissT74 <43084303@recpoker.com> typed:
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Date: 06 Dec
From: SnoopySuited
Subject: Re: Are you Sharkscope conscious?
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I like the pretty graphs.
On Dec 5 2006 3:24 PM, Rubber Biscuit wrote:
> Do you really care about these stats? Do you check them often to gauge your
> play? Do you use it to impress people on PocketFives?
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Date: 05 Dec 2006 17:55:49
From: tvp
Subject: Re: Are you Sharkscope conscious?
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Mr. Peoples wrote:
> I like playing against people that use Sharkscope while they sit and think they
> have some sort of advantage over the table. I pray that Sharkscope labels me as
> a fish...
The tools that try to label or pigeon-hole players can be the least
helpful.
The free promo (forget the name) that's been touted here recently
labeled me a "bomb" and said I needed discipline to become a shark. I
know I was winning over the period looked at on PartyPoker (where it
got it's data) but maybe I could have won more. I can easily imagine a
situation where the author of the stat tool might think your stats
should lie in a certain range, but the assumptions that went into
deciding that are wrong. (I mean, I already knew I wuz da BOMB, but
hey, the stat author wasn't trying to imply I was a good player.)
Anyway, it is good to look at your pure stats, but you also have to be
good at interpreting what they mean. Blindly saying that playing 21% of
hands is too tight or that one should never limp (or whatever) is too
cut-and-dried. What is the person's bottom line? What is the player's
strategy? Why do they do what they do? What is it inducing other
players to do? Is it profitable? Are the parts of a player's entire
arsenal synergistic?
I don't think stat tools are sophisticated enough to judge such things.
I can imagine stats for two different players that would appear nearly
identical percentage-wise regarding preflop play, but where one
player's preflop play is totally readable to others who have played
with him/her for awhile, while the other player essentially leaks no
information.
The software would say the two players are the same by the numbers,
when in reality they are totally different.
tvp
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Date: 06 Dec
From: Mr. Peoples
Subject: Re: Are you Sharkscope conscious?
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I like playing against people that use Sharkscope while they sit and think they
have some sort of advantage over the table. I pray that Sharkscope labels me as
a fish...
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Date: 05 Dec 23:57:49
From: Kincaid
Subject: Re: Are you Sharkscope conscious?
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I went through a week where I was checking my stats and trying to improve them.
I like to play the 6-handed SNGs on stars.
I lost 4 out of 4 one session each time with a big stack and a big hand that was
out drawn. Set v. running flush. Flopped straight v. running full house.
Bad luck/bad variance.
I checked my stats and it said I was on tilt. Since then... I don't really care
On Dec 5 2006 3:24 PM, Rubber Biscuit wrote:
> Do you really care about these stats? Do you check them often to gauge your
> play? Do you use it to impress people on PocketFives?
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Date: 06 Dec 2006 06:15:38
From: Ben
Subject: Re: Are you Sharkscope conscious?
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xyious wrote:
> On Dec 6 2006 9:18 AM, beerboy wrote:
> > In news:1165387794$917052@recpoker.com,
> > Tanya AKA MissT74 <43084303@recpoker.com> typed:
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Date: 06 Dec 2006 15:58:25
From: xyious
Subject: Re: Are you Sharkscope conscious?
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On Dec 6 2006 3:15 PM, Ben wrote:
> I keep all my sng's and mtt in pokertracker and I know that the
> sharkscope stats are just plain inaccurate. I'll be the first to admit
> that I'm not good, but I'm better than what they show. I'm fine with
> them showing that I suck though, i've already had two people tell me
> that my stats are horrible and how bad I suck, right before I knocked
> them out.
they always tell me after i knock em out.
-Alexander Knopf
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Date: 06 Dec 2006 16:57:46
From: A Man Beaten by Jacks
Subject: Re: Are you Sharkscope conscious?
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On 6 Dec 2006 06:15:38 -0800, "Ben" <balvey@comcast.net > wrote:
>I keep all my sng's and mtt in pokertracker and I know that the
>sharkscope stats are just plain inaccurate. I'll be the first to admit
>that I'm not good, but I'm better than what they show. I'm fine with
>them showing that I suck though, i've already had two people tell me
>that my stats are horrible and how bad I suck, right before I knocked
>them out.
I've been comparing my stats on sharkscope to my real stats the
past month or so, and they've been accurate to the penny.
Unfortunately. Including the last week of getting my ass brutally
kicked to the point of dropping a level.
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Date: 07 Dec 2006 05:48:12
From: Ben
Subject: Re: Are you Sharkscope conscious?
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Ben wrote:
> A Man Beaten by Jacks wrote:
> > On 6 Dec 2006 06:15:38 -0800, "Ben" <balvey@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > >I keep all my sng's and mtt in pokertracker and I know that the
> > >sharkscope stats are just plain inaccurate. I'll be the first to admit
> > >that I'm not good, but I'm better than what they show. I'm fine with
> > >them showing that I suck though, i've already had two people tell me
> > >that my stats are horrible and how bad I suck, right before I knocked
> > >them out.
> >
> > I've been comparing my stats on sharkscope to my real stats the
> > past month or so, and they've been accurate to the penny.
> > Unfortunately. Including the last week of getting my ass brutally
> > kicked to the point of dropping a level.
>
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> They may be closer than what I originally had thought. I was just
> considering my $3 turbo sng's but I looked at it a little more and now
> see that it says my AVG buy in is $3. Since I play a lot more $3 turbos
> than any other sng, then I'll go out on a limb and say they might be
> somewhat accurate. I was thinking that they were showing me my $3 sng
> roi was only 8% when in fact I know that it is over 20%. If you add in
> those few larger ones that I've tried and the 180s and all the $1 5
> tables then I could see that ROI coming down.
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> I still love it when I'm in a $3 sng and I'm told that I suck and that
> when "you get to my level come back and see me" to which I respond, "um
> er, we are BOTH in a $3 SNG" ... All of this based off of them going to
> sharkscope and looking me up. I just love jackasses.
another thought came to mind right after posting this.
Is Avg ROI a statistic that should even be considered. I'm not where I
can get to my pokertracker now, but I'm curious as to how far out of
kilter it can get in comparison to ROI in the long run. I guess if you
take several unsuccessful stabs at higher buy ins periodically then
your overall ROI could show a negative but when in reality you're itm
in almost every other sng that you play. SO would avg ROI be a good
thing to look at to show you how you're doing most of the time?
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Date: 07 Dec 2006 05:34:28
From: Ben
Subject: Re: Are you Sharkscope conscious?
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A Man Beaten by Jacks wrote:
> On 6 Dec 2006 06:15:38 -0800, "Ben" <balvey@comcast.net> wrote:
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> >I keep all my sng's and mtt in pokertracker and I know that the
> >sharkscope stats are just plain inaccurate. I'll be the first to admit
> >that I'm not good, but I'm better than what they show. I'm fine with
> >them showing that I suck though, i've already had two people tell me
> >that my stats are horrible and how bad I suck, right before I knocked
> >them out.
>
> I've been comparing my stats on sharkscope to my real stats the
> past month or so, and they've been accurate to the penny.
> Unfortunately. Including the last week of getting my ass brutally
> kicked to the point of dropping a level.
They may be closer than what I originally had thought. I was just
considering my $3 turbo sng's but I looked at it a little more and now
see that it says my AVG buy in is $3. Since I play a lot more $3 turbos
than any other sng, then I'll go out on a limb and say they might be
somewhat accurate. I was thinking that they were showing me my $3 sng
roi was only 8% when in fact I know that it is over 20%. If you add in
those few larger ones that I've tried and the 180s and all the $1 5
tables then I could see that ROI coming down.
I still love it when I'm in a $3 sng and I'm told that I suck and that
when "you get to my level come back and see me" to which I respond, "um
er, we are BOTH in a $3 SNG" ... All of this based off of them going to
sharkscope and looking me up. I just love jackasses.
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