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Date: 18 Dec 2006 03:05:01
From: A Man Beaten by Jacks
Subject: Another 2-7 BAHH


Note, this character I play this hand with is a bit of a maniac,
and has capped and drawn 4. In this case, he caps and draws
3.

I am pretty sure that my rough 9 here is best, and is a favorite
to whatever he's probably drawing two to. I don't see breaking
and redrawing as worthwhile considering I have a 9-8-7.
This is a bit of a trash hand, but I've seen this guy show down
some real nonsense.

Is this hand played correctly given the situation?

PokerStars Game #7490578536: Triple Draw 2-7 Lowball Limit ($1/$2) - 2006/12/17
- 21:39:38 (ET)
Table 'Dactyl V' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: judgeright ($31.25 in chips)
Seat 2: MistCat ($79.75 in chips)
Seat 3: faye ($106.50 in chips)
Seat 5: sjp714 ($35.25 in chips)
Seat 6: Lanky Crow ($91 in chips)
BeeGee70 will be allowed to play after the button
sjp714: posts small blind $0.50
Lanky Crow: posts big blind $1
*** DEALING HANDS ***
Dealt to MistCat [As 7d 3s 8s 2s]
judgeright: raises $1 to $2
MistCat: raises $1 to $3
faye: folds
sjp714: folds
Lanky Crow: folds
judgeright: raises $1 to $4
Betting is capped
MistCat: calls $1
*** FIRST DRAW ***
judgeright: discards 3 cards
MistCat: discards 1 card [As]
Dealt to MistCat [7d 3s 8s 2s] [9d]
judgeright: checks
MistCat: bets $1
judgeright: calls $1
*** SECOND DRAW ***
judgeright: discards 3 cards
MistCat: stands pat on [7d 3s 8s 2s 9d]
judgeright: checks
MistCat: bets $2
judgeright: calls $2
*** THIRD DRAW ***
judgeright: discards 2 cards
MistCat: stands pat on [7d 3s 8s 2s 9d]
judgeright: checks
MistCat: bets $2
judgeright: folds
MistCat collected $14.75 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $15.50




 
Date: 18 Dec 2006 08:21:50
From: FellKnight
Subject: Re: Another 2-7 BAHH


On Dec 18 2006 1:05 AM, A Man Beaten by Jacks wrote:

> Note, this character I play this hand with is a bit of a maniac,
> and has capped and drawn 4. In this case, he caps and draws
> 3.
>
> I am pretty sure that my rough 9 here is best, and is a favorite
> to whatever he's probably drawing two to. I don't see breaking
> and redrawing as worthwhile considering I have a 9-8-7.
> This is a bit of a trash hand, but I've seen this guy show down
> some real nonsense.
>
> Is this hand played correctly given the situation?

The river is the only questionable play, as you have to know that he pays
off a pat hand with a Ten low or worse (or folds a better 9). I think I
just check it.

Fell
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Date: 18 Dec 2006 18:40:54
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: Another 2-7 BAHH


"FellKnight" <jordandevenport@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:upri54xmg9.ln2@recgroups.com...

>
> The river is the only questionable play, as you have to know that he pays
> off a pat hand with a Ten low or worse (or folds a better 9). I think I
> just check it.
>

Then what's questionable about it? Like you say, he shoulda just checked it
on the end. Betting that nine was hardly logical. Look, I know that guy.
And he IS live, and I can count the mistakes he makes within an hour's
playing time. It's significant. Still, though, even Judgeright ain't gonna
call with a worse hand. Well, I dunno, he might. But that was hardly a
value bet.

-Paul Popinjay









  
Date: 18 Dec 2006 17:44:38
From: A Man Beaten by Jacks
Subject: Re: Another 2-7 BAHH


On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 08:21:50 -0800, "FellKnight" <jordandevenport@hotmail.com >
wrote:

>On Dec 18 2006 1:05 AM, A Man Beaten by Jacks wrote:

>> Note, this character I play this hand with is a bit of a maniac,
>> and has capped and drawn 4. In this case, he caps and draws
>> 3.

>> I am pretty sure that my rough 9 here is best, and is a favorite
>> to whatever he's probably drawing two to. I don't see breaking
>> and redrawing as worthwhile considering I have a 9-8-7.
>> This is a bit of a trash hand, but I've seen this guy show down
>> some real nonsense.

>> Is this hand played correctly given the situation?

>The river is the only questionable play, as you have to know that he pays
>off a pat hand with a Ten low or worse (or folds a better 9). I think I
>just check it.

That's another one I was wondering. He had, in fact, called with pairs as
high as 66. Here is some context, though I will note that judgeright and
Alaskaheat had been both acting pretty frisky, for instance, both capping
and then drawing 4 and similar antics. So there's some question on my
river bet as to whether he would have called ME with a 10 or worse.

*** THIRD DRAW ***
judgeright: discards 1 card
Alaskaheat: discards 1 card
judgeright: bets $2
Alaskaheat: raises $2 to $4
judgeright: raises $2 to $6
Alaskaheat: calls $2
*** SHOW DOWN ***
judgeright: shows [Td 5s 6d 2c 4h] (Lo: T,6,5,4,2)
Alaskaheat: shows [4s 2h 8c 7d 6h] (Lo: 8,7,6,4,2)
Alaskaheat collected $28 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***

*** THIRD DRAW ***
Alaskaheat: discards 1 card
judgeright: discards 1 card
Alaskaheat: bets $2
judgeright: raises $2 to $4
Alaskaheat: calls $2
*** SHOW DOWN ***
judgeright: shows [5d Tc 2c 8s 4h] (Lo: T,8,5,4,2)
Alaskaheat: mucks hand
judgeright collected $40.50 from pot
...
Seat 4: Alaskaheat mucked [8h 2h 3c Qd 7s]


   
Date: 18 Dec 2006 23:53:01
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: Another 2-7 BAHH


"A Man Beaten by Jacks" <nobody@fool.foo > wrote in message
>
> That's another one I was wondering. He had, in fact, called with pairs as
> high as 66. Here is some context, though I will note that judgeright and
> Alaskaheat had been both acting pretty frisky, for instance, both capping
> and then drawing 4 and similar antics. So there's some question on my
> river bet as to whether he would have called ME with a 10 or worse.
>

But in the other example you were pat. What the fuck is this? He didn't
call anyone who was pat with a pair of 6s, did he? Are you fucking trolling
me or what?




 
Date: 18 Dec 2006 00:54:53
From: Jim Anderson (thejim2020)
Subject: Re: Another 2-7 BAHH



Jim Anderson (thejim2020) wrote:

>
> Once you've made a 9 and he draws 3 again, there's no way I'm breaking
> it. But, I'm also betting and raising in position.

JUST LIKE YOU DID.



 
Date: 18 Dec 2006 00:52:21
From: Jim Anderson (thejim2020)
Subject: Re: Another 2-7 BAHH


I've played some with judgeright, and don't remember or have notes on
him playing crazy. My guess (and that's all it is) is that he was
blowing steam in this session. If a player is doing that I don't have
a problem with your play.

That said, with 2378x, in position, I'd draw two to a good seven.
ESPECIALLY when he draws three. If he drew two, then I can see
drawing one, maybe, but I'm setting up to bet/fold.

In TD2-7, I try to draw as smooth as possible, and keep pots low until
I have the goods, and I have made money at the game. My play may be
too conservative, though, so I may be leaving money on the table. I
know, however, that my swings aren't as big as most players on the
tables I play, so I'm ok with it.

Once you've made a 9 and he draws 3 again, there's no way I'm breaking
it. But, I'm also betting and raising in position. I may check down
on the river if he only takes one on the last draw.