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Date: 19 Feb 2009 11:43:31
From: bo dark
Subject: ot:looks like thought control is being enforced
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Date: 19 Feb 2009 14:36:42
From: bo dark
Subject: Re: ot:looks like thought control is being enforced
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On Feb 19, 3:18 pm, "BillB" <bo...@shaw1.ca > wrote:
> "bo dark" <tx1...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:deb1d811-896a-4087-943c-
> > you'll get no disagreement from me.power corrupts.this man was driving
> > down the road,no where near president obama,he wasn't attending a
> > speech by obama,he merely expressed a sentiment.did the secret service
> > do a walk through of their home?did they check for any reading
> > material that might be associated with any groups that have a right to
> > exist?
>
> If "Abortion = Murder", then I guess it was no different than the bumper
> sticker saying "Murder Obama Not the Unborn".
> I think inciting someone to murder the president is indeed a crime, but as
> you rightly point out, intent is key in criminal prosecutions. I think the
> CIA and the Secret Service should do a thorough investigation into this
> redneck's .. errr ... this gentleman's background, and if it is found that
> he has ever equated abortion with murder, then he should be locked up in
> that supermax in Colorado for 10 or 15 years. That should teach him some
> manners.
actor alec baldwin said they ought to hang henry hyde,i believe it was
on the david letterman show.i don't think the secret service enter his
home to see if he belonged to a hate group.is redneck the same as
nigger?
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Date: 19 Feb 2009 15:49:22
From: La Cosa Nostradamus
Subject: Re: ot:looks like thought control is being enforced
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On Feb 19 2009 5:36 PM, bo dark wrote:
>.is redneck the same as
> nigger?
Blacks can call people nigger or redneck. Whites are racist no matter what
they do
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Date: 19 Feb 2009 12:29:19
From: bo dark
Subject: Re: ot:looks like thought control is being enforced
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On Feb 19, 2:05 pm, "JerseyRudy" <a44f...@webnntp.invalid > wrote:
> On Feb 19 2009 2:43 PM, bo dark wrote:
>
>
>
> http://www.newsok.com/okc-officer-pulls-man-over-for-anti-obama-sign-...
>
> Thought control is always enforced in this country, and sometimes we even
> find out that it goes all the way to the top:
>
> Protesters Arrested for Anti-Bush T-Shirts Win Settlement
> August 20, 2007 By Matthew Rothschild
>
> Nicole and Jeff Rank were arrested on Independence Day, 2004, for wearing
> anti-Bush T-shirts. They were on the grounds of the capitol in Charleston=
,
> West Virginia, where Bush was giving a speech.
>
> Amidst others who were wearing pro-Bush shirts, the Ranks were wearing
> shirts with Bush=92s name having a line through it. On the back of one of
> their shirts was: =93Love America, Hate Bush.=94
>
> They were singled out by White House event staff and local law
> enforcement, who told them they would have to leave. When they didn=92t,
> they were arrested for trespassing. The city of Charleston, in a matter o=
f
> days, realized its error and apologized to the Ranks.
>
> But feeling that the White House was behind their arrest, they, with the
> help of the ACLU, sued the then-head of the Office of White House Advance=
.
>
> In the process of the lawsuit, they uncovered a White House manual that
> gave instructions on how to handle protesters. (See =93White House Manual
> for Silencing Critics=94.)
>
> This manual says:
>
> =93As always, work with the Secret Service and have them ask the local
> police department to designate a protest area where demonstrators can be
> placed, preferably not in view of the event site or motorcade route.=94
>
> The document also recommends drowning out protesters or blocking their
> signs by using what it calls =93rally squads.=94 It states: =93These squa=
ds
> should be instructed always to look for demonstrators. The rally squad=92=
s
> task is to use their signs and banners as shields between the
> demonstrators and the main press platform. If the demonstrators are
> yelling, rally squads can begin and lead supportive chants to drown out
> the protestors (USA!, USA!, USA!). As a last resort, security should
> remove the demonstrators from the event site.=94
>
> The document also offers advice on how to recruit members for such squads=
:
> =93The rally squads can include, but are not limited to, college/young
> republican organizations, local athletic teams, and
> fraternities/sororities.=94
>
> On August 16, the ACLU announced that a settlement had been reached, with
> the government agreeing to pay the Ranks $80,000 to make the case go away=
.
>
> =93This settlement is a real victory not only for our clients but for the
> First Amendment,=94 said Andrew Schneider, executive director of the ACLU=
of
> West Virginia. =93As a result of the Ranks=92 courageous stand, public
> officials will think twice before they eject peaceful protesters from
> public events for exercising their right to dissent.=94
>
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you'll get no disagreement from me.power corrupts.this man was driving
down the road,no where near president obama,he wasn't attending a
speech by obama,he merely expressed a sentiment.did the secret service
do a walk through of their home?did they check for any reading
material that might be associated with any groups that have a right to
exist?
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Date: 19 Feb 2009 13:18:46
From: BillB
Subject: Re: ot:looks like thought control is being enforced
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"bo dark" <tx1456@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:deb1d811-896a-4087-943c-
> you'll get no disagreement from me.power corrupts.this man was driving
> down the road,no where near president obama,he wasn't attending a
> speech by obama,he merely expressed a sentiment.did the secret service
> do a walk through of their home?did they check for any reading
> material that might be associated with any groups that have a right to
> exist?
If "Abortion = Murder", then I guess it was no different than the bumper
sticker saying "Murder Obama Not the Unborn".
I think inciting someone to murder the president is indeed a crime, but as
you rightly point out, intent is key in criminal prosecutions. I think the
CIA and the Secret Service should do a thorough investigation into this
redneck's .. errr ... this gentleman's background, and if it is found that
he has ever equated abortion with murder, then he should be locked up in
that supermax in Colorado for 10 or 15 years. That should teach him some
manners.
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Date: 19 Feb 2009 14:12:24
From: La Cosa Nostradamus
Subject: Re: ot:looks like thought control is being enforced
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On Feb 19 2009 4:18 PM, BillB wrote:
> "bo dark" <tx1456@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:deb1d811-896a-4087-943c-
>
> > you'll get no disagreement from me.power corrupts.this man was driving
> > down the road,no where near president obama,he wasn't attending a
> > speech by obama,he merely expressed a sentiment.did the secret service
> > do a walk through of their home?did they check for any reading
> > material that might be associated with any groups that have a right to
> > exist?
>
> If "Abortion = Murder", then I guess it was no different than the bumper
> sticker saying "Murder Obama Not the Unborn".
> I think inciting someone to murder the president is indeed a crime, but as
> you rightly point out, intent is key in criminal prosecutions. I think the
> CIA and the Secret Service should do a thorough investigation into this
> redneck's .. errr ... this gentleman's background, and if it is found that
> he has ever equated abortion with murder, then he should be locked up in
> that supermax in Colorado for 10 or 15 years. That should teach him some
> manners.
ok shitbag, is abortion murder ?
Thanks for the memories, you lit up my life for a few precious moments
http://kuroiso.org/
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Date: 19 Feb 2009 13:39:46
From: garycarson
Subject: Re: ot:looks like thought control is being enforced
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On Feb 19 2009 4:18 PM, BillB wrote:
> "bo dark" <tx1456@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:deb1d811-896a-4087-943c-
>
> > you'll get no disagreement from me.power corrupts.this man was driving
> > down the road,no where near president obama,he wasn't attending a
> > speech by obama,he merely expressed a sentiment.did the secret service
> > do a walk through of their home?did they check for any reading
> > material that might be associated with any groups that have a right to
> > exist?
>
> If "Abortion = Murder", then I guess it was no different than the bumper
> sticker saying "Murder Obama Not the Unborn".
> I think inciting someone to murder the president is indeed a crime, but as
> you rightly point out, intent is key in criminal prosecutions. I think the
> CIA and the Secret Service should do a thorough investigation into this
> redneck's .. errr ... this gentleman's background, and if it is found that
> he has ever equated abortion with murder, then he should be locked up in
> that supermax in Colorado for 10 or 15 years. That should teach him some
> manners.
The first amendment applies to religious redneck nutcases as well as you.
Do you think people who wore t-shirts saying "make love, not war" were
advocating rape?
His bumper sticker clearly was about Obama's position on abortion and was
not a call to kill Obama. At least clear to anybody who isn 't completely
brain dead from partisan interpretation of everything.
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Date: 19 Feb 2009 13:43:21
From: BillB
Subject: Re: ot:looks like thought control is being enforced
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"garycarson" <garycarson@alumni.northwestern.edu > wrote in message
news:260176xgft.ln2@recgroups.com...
> His bumper sticker clearly was about Obama's position on abortion and was
> not a call to kill Obama. At least clear to anybody who isn 't completely
> brain dead from partisan interpretation of everything.
Sort of like it's clear to anyone who isn't completely brain dead that I
was writing satire?
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Date: 19 Feb 2009 13:38:20
From: JerseyRudy
Subject: Re: ot:looks like thought control is being enforced
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On Feb 19 2009 4:18 PM, BillB wrote:
> "bo dark" <tx1456@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:deb1d811-896a-4087-943c-
>
> > you'll get no disagreement from me.power corrupts.this man was driving
> > down the road,no where near president obama,he wasn't attending a
> > speech by obama,he merely expressed a sentiment.did the secret service
> > do a walk through of their home?did they check for any reading
> > material that might be associated with any groups that have a right to
> > exist?
>
> If "Abortion = Murder", then I guess it was no different than the bumper
> sticker saying "Murder Obama Not the Unborn".
> I think inciting someone to murder the president is indeed a crime, but as
> you rightly point out, intent is key in criminal prosecutions. I think the
> CIA and the Secret Service should do a thorough investigation into this
> redneck's .. errr ... this gentleman's background, and if it is found that
> he has ever equated abortion with murder, then he should be locked up in
> that supermax in Colorado for 10 or 15 years. That should teach him some
> manners.
Apparently "Abortion=murder" only in the context of the unborn. In the
context of President Obama, "Abort=impeach." Obviously this was the lame
justification given by the police in Oklahoma City in order to wipe their
hands clean of the situation, but I do think that it should take more than
a stupid bumper sticker to get the Secret Service involved. If this idiot
was seen in public with a gun yelling that Obama should be aborted, then
that would be a different story.
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Date: 19 Feb 2009 14:12:11
From: La Cosa Nostradamus
Subject: Re: ot:looks like thought control is being enforced
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On Feb 19 2009 4:38 PM, JerseyRudy wrote:
> On Feb 19 2009 4:18 PM, BillB wrote:
>
> > "bo dark" <tx1456@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:deb1d811-896a-4087-943c-
> >
> > > you'll get no disagreement from me.power corrupts.this man was driving
> > > down the road,no where near president obama,he wasn't attending a
> > > speech by obama,he merely expressed a sentiment.did the secret service
> > > do a walk through of their home?did they check for any reading
> > > material that might be associated with any groups that have a right to
> > > exist?
> >
> > If "Abortion = Murder", then I guess it was no different than the bumper
> > sticker saying "Murder Obama Not the Unborn".
> > I think inciting someone to murder the president is indeed a crime, but as
> > you rightly point out, intent is key in criminal prosecutions. I think the
> > CIA and the Secret Service should do a thorough investigation into this
> > redneck's .. errr ... this gentleman's background, and if it is found that
> > he has ever equated abortion with murder, then he should be locked up in
> > that supermax in Colorado for 10 or 15 years. That should teach him some
> > manners.
>
> Apparently "Abortion=murder" only in the context of the unborn. In the
> context of President Obama, "Abort=impeach." Obviously this was the lame
> justification given by the police in Oklahoma City in order to wipe their
> hands clean of the situation, but I do think that it should take more than
> a stupid bumper sticker to get the Secret Service involved. If this idiot
> was seen in public with a gun yelling that Obama should be aborted, then
> that would be a different story.
ok shitbag, is abortion murder ?
Thanks for the memories, you lit up my life for a few precious moments
http://kuroiso.org/
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Date: 20 Feb 2009 07:20:09
From: JerseyRudy
Subject: Re: ot:looks like thought control is being enforced
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On Feb 19 2009 5:12 PM, La Cosa Nostradamus wrote:
> On Feb 19 2009 4:38 PM, JerseyRudy wrote:
>
> > On Feb 19 2009 4:18 PM, BillB wrote:
> >
> > > "bo dark" <tx1456@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:deb1d811-896a-4087-943c-
> > >
> > > > you'll get no disagreement from me.power corrupts.this man was driving
> > > > down the road,no where near president obama,he wasn't attending a
> > > > speech by obama,he merely expressed a sentiment.did the secret service
> > > > do a walk through of their home?did they check for any reading
> > > > material that might be associated with any groups that have a right to
> > > > exist?
> > >
> > > If "Abortion = Murder", then I guess it was no different than the bumper
> > > sticker saying "Murder Obama Not the Unborn".
> > > I think inciting someone to murder the president is indeed a crime, but
as
> > > you rightly point out, intent is key in criminal prosecutions. I think
the
> > > CIA and the Secret Service should do a thorough investigation into this
> > > redneck's .. errr ... this gentleman's background, and if it is found
that
> > > he has ever equated abortion with murder, then he should be locked up in
> > > that supermax in Colorado for 10 or 15 years. That should teach him some
> > > manners.
> >
> > Apparently "Abortion=murder" only in the context of the unborn. In the
> > context of President Obama, "Abort=impeach." Obviously this was the lame
> > justification given by the police in Oklahoma City in order to wipe their
> > hands clean of the situation, but I do think that it should take more than
> > a stupid bumper sticker to get the Secret Service involved. If this idiot
> > was seen in public with a gun yelling that Obama should be aborted, then
> > that would be a different story.
> ok shitbag, is abortion murder ?
>
> Thanks for the memories, you lit up my life for a few precious moments
> http://kuroiso.org/
I always thought so, but apparently the police in Oklahoma City think it
isn't...they seem to think it means "impeach."
If you think abortion is murder (which I assume you do) then it's hard to
escape the conclusion that this idiot was driving around with a bumber
sticker saying that the President should be murdered.
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Date: 19 Feb 2009 13:23:23
From: BillB
Subject: Re: ot:looks like thought control is being enforced
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"BillB" <bogus@shaw1.ca > wrote in message
news:Y0knl.18879$RJ7.5387@newsfe18.iad...
> I think the CIA and the Secret Service should do a thorough
> investigation...
whoops ... I meant the FBI, not the CIA. But come to think of it ... a
little waterboarding might straighten him out too.
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Date: 19 Feb 2009 12:23:55
From: BeaForoni
Subject: Re: ot:looks like thought control is being enforced
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On Feb 19, 12:05=A0pm, "JerseyRudy" <a44f...@webnntp.invalid > wrote:
> On Feb 19 2009 2:43 PM, bo dark wrote:
>
>
>
> http://www.newsok.com/okc-officer-pulls-man-over-for-anti-obama-sign-...
>
> Thought control is always enforced in this country, and sometimes we even
> find out that it goes all the way to the top:
>
The USA is a place where people go to prison for conspiracy. When
people conspire they think about it, they talk about it and they may
even write about it, but the one thing the DON'T do is actually do it.
America is one of the few countries in the world where people go to
prison on conspiracy charges.
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Date: 19 Feb 2009 13:03:48
From: FangBanger
Subject: Re: ot:looks like thought control is being enforced
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On Feb 19 2009 2:23 PM, BeaForoni wrote:
> On Feb 19, 12:05 pm, "JerseyRudy" <a44f...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> > On Feb 19 2009 2:43 PM, bo dark wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.newsok.com/okc-officer-pulls-man-over-for-anti-obama-sign-...
> >
> > Thought control is always enforced in this country, and sometimes we even
> > find out that it goes all the way to the top:
> >
>
>
> The USA is a place where people go to prison for conspiracy. When
> people conspire they think about it, they talk about it and they may
> even write about it, but the one thing the DON'T do is actually do it.
> America is one of the few countries in the world where people go to
> prison on conspiracy charges.
your first "comical" response .. not bad ..very funny
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
Voltaire
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Date: 19 Feb 2009 12:05:57
From: JerseyRudy
Subject: Re: ot:looks like thought control is being enforced
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On Feb 19 2009 2:43 PM, bo dark wrote:
>
http://www.newsok.com/okc-officer-pulls-man-over-for-anti-obama-sign-on-vehicle/article/3347038?custom_click=headlines_widget
Thought control is always enforced in this country, and sometimes we even
find out that it goes all the way to the top:
Protesters Arrested for Anti-Bush T-Shirts Win Settlement
August 20, 2007 By Matthew Rothschild
Nicole and Jeff Rank were arrested on Independence Day, 2004, for wearing
anti-Bush T-shirts. They were on the grounds of the capitol in Charleston,
West Virginia, where Bush was giving a speech.
Amidst others who were wearing pro-Bush shirts, the Ranks were wearing
shirts with Bush’s name having a line through it. On the back of one of
their shirts was: “Love America, Hate Bush.”
They were singled out by White House event staff and local law
enforcement, who told them they would have to leave. When they didn’t,
they were arrested for trespassing. The city of Charleston, in a matter of
days, realized its error and apologized to the Ranks.
But feeling that the White House was behind their arrest, they, with the
help of the ACLU, sued the then-head of the Office of White House Advance.
In the process of the lawsuit, they uncovered a White House manual that
gave instructions on how to handle protesters. (See “White House Manual
for Silencing Critics”.)
This manual says:
“As always, work with the Secret Service and have them ask the local
police department to designate a protest area where demonstrators can be
placed, preferably not in view of the event site or motorcade route.”
The document also recommends drowning out protesters or blocking their
signs by using what it calls “rally squads.” It states: “These squads
should be instructed always to look for demonstrators. The rally squad’s
task is to use their signs and banners as shields between the
demonstrators and the main press platform. If the demonstrators are
yelling, rally squads can begin and lead supportive chants to drown out
the protestors (USA!, USA!, USA!). As a last resort, security should
remove the demonstrators from the event site.”
The document also offers advice on how to recruit members for such squads:
“The rally squads can include, but are not limited to, college/young
republican organizations, local athletic teams, and
fraternities/sororities.”
On August 16, the ACLU announced that a settlement had been reached, with
the government agreeing to pay the Ranks $80,000 to make the case go away.
“This settlement is a real victory not only for our clients but for the
First Amendment,” said Andrew Schneider, executive director of the ACLU of
West Virginia. “As a result of the Ranks’ courageous stand, public
officials will think twice before they eject peaceful protesters from
public events for exercising their right to dissent.”
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