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Date: 18 Dec 2008 12:02:49
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: limit betting/raise question
Serious question. Game is a LHE tourney. Blinds are 200/400. Folds to
the button who moves all-in for 392 chips total. SB with a 2k stack
calls. BB has a 2k stack. The BB can call/raise/fold. What amount
should the BB be able to raise to here?

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Date: 18 Dec 2008 21:17:44
From: johnny_t
Subject: Re: limit betting/raise question
XaQ Morphy wrote:
> Serious question. Game is a LHE tourney. Blinds are 200/400. Folds to
> the button who moves all-in for 392 chips total. SB with a 2k stack
> calls. BB has a 2k stack. The BB can call/raise/fold. What amount
> should the BB be able to raise to here?
>
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Ok, after having read the thread and the question correction. It is the
house policy in some places to require the completion and then raise if
you would like to raise if the all in is over 50% of the raise. Some
places simply allow the completion of the bet if it is over 50%.

If under 50%, the betting is not reopened, but some houses allow the
completion of the bet.

So, the pokerstars answer, is simply an answer. And not completely out
of the blue, even if not in your experience.

And at any rate, the houseman's decision is final, and this is the way
they do it.


 
Date: 18 Dec 2008 19:43:59
From: johnny_t
Subject: Re: limit betting/raise question
XaQ Morphy wrote:
> Serious question. Game is a LHE tourney. Blinds are 200/400. Folds to
> the button who moves all-in for 392 chips total. SB with a 2k stack
> calls. BB has a 2k stack. The BB can call/raise/fold. What amount
> should the BB be able to raise to here?

Raise to 800.

The same as if it had called around to him.

I don't understand how the big blind can fold here....


 
Date: 18 Dec 2008 17:45:40
From: Joe Long
Subject: Re: limit betting/raise question
XaQ Morphy wrote:
> Serious question. Game is a LHE tourney. Blinds are 200/400. Folds to
> the button who moves all-in for 392 chips total. SB with a 2k stack
> calls. BB has a 2k stack. The BB can call/raise/fold. What amount
> should the BB be able to raise to here?

Did you make a typo when you wrote this? It's pretty trivial otherwise.

First of all, the SB has to call the 400, not the 392. He's calling the
BB.

The BB can CHECK his option, raise or fold (a rather foolish play when
he can check).

If the BB raises he must raise to 800, nothing has changed that.


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Date: 18 Dec 2008 17:23:24
From: Jason Pawloski
Subject: Re: limit betting/raise question
On Dec 18 2008 5:45 PM, Joe Long wrote:

> XaQ Morphy wrote:
> > Serious question. Game is a LHE tourney. Blinds are 200/400. Folds to
> > the button who moves all-in for 392 chips total. SB with a 2k stack
> > calls. BB has a 2k stack. The BB can call/raise/fold. What amount
> > should the BB be able to raise to here?
>
> Did you make a typo when you wrote this? It's pretty trivial otherwise.

Good job posting a response without reading the other posts in the thread.
The Usenet Gods will smile upon you.

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Date: 18 Dec 2008 14:18:15
From: FangBanger
Subject: Re: limit betting/raise question
On Dec 18 2008 2:02 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:

> Serious question. Game is a LHE tourney. Blinds are 200/400. Folds to
> the button who moves all-in for 392 chips total. SB with a 2k stack
> calls. BB has a 2k stack. The BB can call/raise/fold. What amount
> should the BB be able to raise to here?

800.. bad question .. sparky

there is no calling from the BB as no one has raised yet !!

>
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Date: 18 Dec 2008 13:56:55
From: SheepCookers
Subject: Re: limit betting/raise question
In Bay 101 they only allow you only to complete the bet. At least in cash
games. So in this case you can only raise 8 chips more to 400.

On Dec 18 2008 12:02 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:

> Serious question. Game is a LHE tourney. Blinds are 200/400. Folds to
> the button who moves all-in for 392 chips total. SB with a 2k stack
> calls. BB has a 2k stack. The BB can call/raise/fold. What amount
> should the BB be able to raise to here?
>
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Date: 18 Dec 2008 13:06:09
From: charrison100
Subject: Re: limit betting/raise question
On Dec 18 2008 3:02 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:

> Serious question. Game is a LHE tourney. Blinds are 200/400. Folds to
> the button who moves all-in for 392 chips total. SB with a 2k stack
> calls. BB has a 2k stack. The BB can call/raise/fold. What amount
> should the BB be able to raise to here?
>
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> "SHUT UP IDIOT" --The Great Patholio

It depends.

I have heard of a 1/2 pot bet reopening the betting so he could raise but
I have also heard that is has to be a full bet.

Is this a room rule dependant thing?

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Date: 18 Dec 2008 12:14:08
From: MMelia
Subject: Re: limit betting/raise question
On Dec 18 2008 3:02 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:

> Serious question. Game is a LHE tourney. Blinds are 200/400. Folds to
> the button who moves all-in for 392 chips total. SB with a 2k stack
> calls. BB has a 2k stack. The BB can call/raise/fold. What amount
> should the BB be able to raise to here?
>
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I guess you were seirous. You should be able to raise it to 800. An
online site didn't let you did it. It only gave you the option to call?

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Date: 18 Dec 2008 12:19:09
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: limit betting/raise question
On Dec 18 2008 2:14 PM, MMelia wrote:

> I guess you were seirous. You should be able to raise it to 800. An
> online site didn't let you did it. It only gave you the option to call?

Yeah I always label my serious posts as such. However, that doesn't
prevent me from completely screwing them up. Blinds 100/200, betting
stakes 200/400. Sorry!

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Date: 18 Dec 2008 12:33:03
From: John_Brian_K
Subject: Re: limit betting/raise question
800

;)

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Date: 18 Dec 2008 14:26:43
From: FangBanger
Subject: Re: limit betting/raise question
On Dec 18 2008 2:33 PM, John_Brian_K wrote:

> 800
>
> ;)

THAT WOULD BE WRONG .. MORON !!
>
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Date: 19 Dec 2008 07:07:21
From: John_Brian_K
Subject: Re: limit betting/raise question
> > 800
> >
> > ;)
>
> THAT WOULD BE WRONG .. MORON !!

You are a 'seasoned guy' in poker right?

Ever play at a place that different rules than yours?

In the places I play it would have been 600 and the 800 was a joke at
Morphs fuck up on the post.

Try to keep up there old guy.

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Date: 18 Dec 2008 12:12:34
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: limit betting/raise question
On Dec 18 2008 2:02 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:

> Serious question. Game is a LHE tourney. Blinds are 200/400. Folds to
> the button who moves all-in for 392 chips total. SB with a 2k stack
> calls. BB has a 2k stack. The BB can call/raise/fold. What amount
> should the BB be able to raise to here?

Sorry, I screwed this up. Stakes are 200/400, blinds are 100/200. Hope
that makes more sense.

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Date: 18 Dec 2008 12:23:33
From: MMelia
Subject: Re: limit betting/raise question
On Dec 18 2008 3:12 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:

> On Dec 18 2008 2:02 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:
>
> > Serious question. Game is a LHE tourney. Blinds are 200/400. Folds to
> > the button who moves all-in for 392 chips total. SB with a 2k stack
> > calls. BB has a 2k stack. The BB can call/raise/fold. What amount
> > should the BB be able to raise to here?
>
> Sorry, I screwed this up. Stakes are 200/400, blinds are 100/200. Hope
> that makes more sense.
>
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Did it only allow you to call? You should be able to raise 200 - 1 bet.

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Date: 18 Dec 2008 13:26:32
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: limit betting/raise question
On Dec 18 2008 2:23 PM, MMelia wrote:

> Did it only allow you to call? You should be able to raise 200 - 1 bet.

Nope, it did something that didn't make sense. To recap, blinds 100/200,
LHE, button moves in for 392, SB calls, and it's on me on the BB. It gave
me the option to fold, call 192 more, or raise to, get this, 400.

This was on everyone's precious pokerstars.

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Date: 18 Dec 2008 14:22:16
From: FangBanger
Subject: Re: limit betting/raise question
On Dec 18 2008 3:26 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:

> On Dec 18 2008 2:23 PM, MMelia wrote:
>
> > Did it only allow you to call? You should be able to raise 200 - 1 bet.
>
> Nope, it did something that didn't make sense. To recap, blinds 100/200,
> LHE, button moves in for 392, SB calls, and it's on me on the BB. It gave
> me the option to fold, call 192 more, or raise to, get this, 400.
>
> This was on everyone's precious pokerstars.
>

LETS SEE THE HH
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Date: 18 Dec 2008 15:23:22
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: limit betting/raise question
On Dec 18 2008 4:22 PM, FangBanger wrote:

> LETS SEE THE HH

Oops, it was 391 chips, not 392.

PokerStars Game #23019159172: Tournament #127752598, $10+$1 8-Game
(Hold'em Limit) - Level X (200/400) - 2008/12/17 22:53:43 ET
Table '127752598 1' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: judgewinston (391 in chips)
Seat 3: PapaLeon06 (3582 in chips)
Seat 4: Grant1525 (1931 in chips)
Seat 5: THE_Riveter (3096 in chips)
PapaLeon06: posts small blind 100
Grant1525: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Grant1525 [Jh Jd]
THE_Riveter: folds
judgewinston: raises 191 to 391 and is all-in
PapaLeon06: calls 291
Grant1525: raises 9 to 400
PapaLeon06: calls 9
*** FLOP *** [7d 2s 8h]
PapaLeon06: checks
Grant1525: bets 200
PapaLeon06: calls 200
*** TURN *** [7d 2s 8h] [4c]
PapaLeon06: checks
Grant1525: bets 400
PapaLeon06: calls 400
*** RIVER *** [7d 2s 8h 4c] [3d]
PapaLeon06: checks
Grant1525: bets 400
PapaLeon06: folds
Uncalled bet (400) returned to Grant1525
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Grant1525: shows [Jh Jd] (a pair of Jacks)
Grant1525 collected 1218 from side pot
judgewinston: shows [Kh 7h] (a pair of Sevens)
Grant1525 collected 1173 from main pot
PapaLeon06 said, "AQ"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2391 Main pot 1173. Side pot 1218.


      
Date: 18 Dec 2008 17:57:22
From: FangBanger
Subject: Re: limit betting/raise question
On Dec 18 2008 5:23 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:

> On Dec 18 2008 4:22 PM, FangBanger wrote:
>
> > LETS SEE THE HH
>
> Oops, it was 391 chips, not 392.
>
> PokerStars Game #23019159172: Tournament #127752598, $10+$1 8-Game
> (Hold'em Limit) - Level X (200/400) - 2008/12/17 22:53:43 ET
> Table '127752598 1' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
> Seat 2: judgewinston (391 in chips)
> Seat 3: PapaLeon06 (3582 in chips)
> Seat 4: Grant1525 (1931 in chips)
> Seat 5: THE_Riveter (3096 in chips)
> PapaLeon06: posts small blind 100
> Grant1525: posts big blind 200
> *** HOLE CARDS ***
> Dealt to Grant1525 [Jh Jd]
> THE_Riveter: folds
> judgewinston: raises 191 to 391 and is all-in
> PapaLeon06: calls 291
> Grant1525: raises 9 to 400
> PapaLeon06: calls 9
> *** FLOP *** [7d 2s 8h]
> PapaLeon06: checks
> Grant1525: bets 200
> PapaLeon06: calls 200
> *** TURN *** [7d 2s 8h] [4c]
> PapaLeon06: checks
> Grant1525: bets 400
> PapaLeon06: calls 400
> *** RIVER *** [7d 2s 8h 4c] [3d]
> PapaLeon06: checks
> Grant1525: bets 400
> PapaLeon06: folds
> Uncalled bet (400) returned to Grant1525
> *** SHOW DOWN ***
> Grant1525: shows [Jh Jd] (a pair of Jacks)
> Grant1525 collected 1218 from side pot
> judgewinston: shows [Kh 7h] (a pair of Sevens)
> Grant1525 collected 1173 from main pot
> PapaLeon06 said, "AQ"
> *** SUMMARY ***
> Total pot 2391 Main pot 1173. Side pot 1218.


       
Date: 18 Dec 2008 22:00:13
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: limit betting/raise question
On Dec 18 2008 7:57 PM, FangBanger wrote:

> THAT IS A BIT WEIRD .. i AM SURPRISED TO SEE THAT !!

The official answer:

Hello Adam,

Thank you for writing with your concern about this feature of the
PokerStars software.

In many brick and mortar card rooms, in a structured betting (limit)
game an all-in wager of a half a bet or more is treated as a full bet,
and a player may fold, call, or make a full raise.

This is in contrast to the common brick and mortar rule in No Limit
and Pot Limit games, in which a bet must be a "full raise" in order to
qualify as re-opening the action.

At this time, PokerStars treats all games under a single rule. This
includes both No Limit and structured betting games. On PokerStars,
any raise must be a complete raise in order to re-open the action.
There is no "half of the minimum bet" rule. All "short" raises all-in
are considered action only in all games.

Therefore in this particular situation, when it was your turn to act, you
were allowed to 'complete' the structured bet. However, the action does
not re-open and you are unable to re-raise.

I hope this has answered your question completely. Please do not
hesitate to let us know any time you need anything.

Regards,

Hoong
PokerStars Support Team

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Date: 19 Dec 2008 11:16:33
From: charrison100
Subject: Re: limit betting/raise question
On Dec 19 2008 1:00 AM, XaQ Morphy wrote:

> On Dec 18 2008 7:57 PM, FangBanger wrote:
>
> > THAT IS A BIT WEIRD .. i AM SURPRISED TO SEE THAT !!
>
> The official answer:
>
> Hello Adam,
>
> Thank you for writing with your concern about this feature of the
> PokerStars software.
>
> In many brick and mortar card rooms, in a structured betting (limit)
> game an all-in wager of a half a bet or more is treated as a full bet,
> and a player may fold, call, or make a full raise.
>
> This is in contrast to the common brick and mortar rule in No Limit
> and Pot Limit games, in which a bet must be a "full raise" in order to
> qualify as re-opening the action.
>
> At this time, PokerStars treats all games under a single rule. This
> includes both No Limit and structured betting games. On PokerStars,
> any raise must be a complete raise in order to re-open the action.
> There is no "half of the minimum bet" rule. All "short" raises all-in
> are considered action only in all games.
>
> Therefore in this particular situation, when it was your turn to act, you
> were allowed to 'complete' the structured bet. However, the action does
> not re-open and you are unable to re-raise.
>
> I hope this has answered your question completely. Please do not
> hesitate to let us know any time you need anything.
>
> Regards,
>
> Hoong
> PokerStars Support Team
>
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Well, at least they have a reason. Probably a programming skill
restriction.

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Date: 19 Dec 2008 07:04:21
From: John_Brian_K
Subject: Re: limit betting/raise question
> Hoong
> PokerStars Support Team

WHAT? Who the fuck is THIS guy?

Is the brother of Huorang from Tekken or something?

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Date: 18 Dec 2008 22:29:38
From: FangBanger
Subject: Re: limit betting/raise question
On Dec 19 2008 12:00 AM, XaQ Morphy wrote:

> On Dec 18 2008 7:57 PM, FangBanger wrote:
>
> > THAT IS A BIT WEIRD .. i AM SURPRISED TO SEE THAT !!
>
> The official answer:
>
> Hello Adam,
>
> Thank you for writing with your concern about this feature of the
> PokerStars software.
>
> In many brick and mortar card rooms, in a structured betting (limit)
> game an all-in wager of a half a bet or more is treated as a full bet,
> and a player may fold, call, or make a full raise.
>
> This is in contrast to the common brick and mortar rule in No Limit
> and Pot Limit games, in which a bet must be a "full raise" in order to
> qualify as re-opening the action.
>
> At this time, PokerStars treats all games under a single rule. This
> includes both No Limit and structured betting games. On PokerStars,
> any raise must be a complete raise in order to re-open the action.
> There is no "half of the minimum bet" rule. All "short" raises all-in
> are considered action only in all games.
>
> Therefore in this particular situation, when it was your turn to act, you
> were allowed to 'complete' the structured bet. However, the action does
> not re-open and you are unable to re-raise.
>
> I hope this has answered your question completely. Please do not
> hesitate to let us know any time you need anything.
>
> Regards,
>
> Hoong
> PokerStars Support Team

Hoong ? Hoong ? Rajish quit ? OMG
>
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Date: 18 Dec 2008 14:28:09
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: limit betting/raise question
On Dec 18 2008 4:22 PM, FangBanger wrote:

> LETS SEE THE HH

I'll try to remember to post it when I get home. If you don't see it in a
few hours remind me. I'm going to email it off to stars as well. But,
from what I'm told it's a standard thing with Stars and how they handle
these situations.

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Date: 18 Dec 2008 14:17:36
From: MMelia
Subject: Re: limit betting/raise question
On Dec 18 2008 4:26 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:

> On Dec 18 2008 2:23 PM, MMelia wrote:
>
> > Did it only allow you to call? You should be able to raise 200 - 1 bet.
>
> Nope, it did something that didn't make sense. To recap, blinds 100/200,
> LHE, button moves in for 392, SB calls, and it's on me on the BB. It gave
> me the option to fold, call 192 more, or raise to, get this, 400.
>
> This was on everyone's precious pokerstars.
>
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I'm not surprised that it was PokerStars. I've had similar situations but
it would only let me call or fold.

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Date: 18 Dec 2008 15:35:56
From: da pickle
Subject: Re: limit betting/raise question
"XaQ Morphy"

>> Did it only allow you to call? You should be able to raise 200 - 1 bet.
>
> Nope, it did something that didn't make sense. To recap, blinds 100/200,
> LHE, button moves in for 392, SB calls, and it's on me on the BB. It gave
> me the option to fold, call 192 more, or raise to, get this, 400.
>
> This was on everyone's precious pokerstars.

It is a programming error.




 
Date: 18 Dec 2008 12:06:14
From: MrBookworm
Subject: Re: limit betting/raise question
> Serious question. Game is a LHE tourney. Blinds are 200/400. Folds to
> the button who moves all-in for 392 chips total. SB with a 2k stack
> calls. BB has a 2k stack. The BB can call/raise/fold. What amount
> should the BB be able to raise to here?

I haven't played limit in a while, but wouldn't it be another 400 to 800?
Main pot would be (392*3) 1176 and side pot would be (8+8+400) 416 with
the SB next to act.

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Date: 18 Dec 2008 12:13:01
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: limit betting/raise question
On Dec 18 2008 2:06 PM, MrBookworm wrote:

> I haven't played limit in a while, but wouldn't it be another 400 to 800?
> Main pot would be (392*3) 1176 and side pot would be (8+8+400) 416 with
> the SB next to act.

I screwed it up, stakes are 200/400, blinds are 100/200.

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Date: 18 Dec 2008 14:21:06
From: FangBanger
Subject: Re: limit betting/raise question
On Dec 18 2008 2:13 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:

> On Dec 18 2008 2:06 PM, MrBookworm wrote:
>
> > I haven't played limit in a while, but wouldn't it be another 400 to 800?
> > Main pot would be (392*3) 1176 and side pot would be (8+8+400) 416 with
> > the SB next to act.
>
> I screwed it up, stakes are 200/400, blinds are 100/200.

then 592 is the answer.. i am following the thread from the top
>
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Date: 18 Dec 2008 12:05:17
From: MMelia
Subject: Re: limit betting/raise question
On Dec 18 2008 3:02 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:

> Serious question. Game is a LHE tourney. Blinds are 200/400. Folds to
> the button who moves all-in for 392 chips total. SB with a 2k stack
> calls. BB has a 2k stack. The BB can call/raise/fold. What amount
> should the BB be able to raise to here?
>
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uh... its limit. Did I do good George? Huh? Huh? Can I pet the rabiits?

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Date: 18 Dec 2008 12:11:47
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: limit betting/raise question
On Dec 18 2008 2:05 PM, MMelia wrote:

> uh... its limit. Did I do good George? Huh? Huh? Can I pet the rabiits?

So your answer to "how much can the BB raise to" is "uh... its limit"??
Am I reading that correctly?

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Date: 18 Dec 2008 12:15:37
From: MMelia
Subject: Re: limit betting/raise question
On Dec 18 2008 3:11 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:

> On Dec 18 2008 2:05 PM, MMelia wrote:
>
> > uh... its limit. Did I do good George? Huh? Huh? Can I pet the rabiits?
>
> So your answer to "how much can the BB raise to" is "uh... its limit"??
> Am I reading that correctly?
>
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> "SHUT UP IDIOT" --The Great Patholio

I thought you were screwing around. I posted.

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Date: 18 Dec 2008 12:20:58
From: garycarson
Subject: Re: limit betting/raise question
On Dec 18 2008 3:15 PM, MMelia wrote:

> On Dec 18 2008 3:11 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:
>
> > On Dec 18 2008 2:05 PM, MMelia wrote:
> >
> > > uh... its limit. Did I do good George? Huh? Huh? Can I pet the
rabiits?
> >
> > So your answer to "how much can the BB raise to" is "uh... its limit"??
> > Am I reading that correctly?
> >
> > ---
> > Morphy
> > xaqmorphy@donkeymanifesto.com
> > http://www.donkeymanifesto.com
> > "SHUT UP IDIOT" --The Great Patholio
>
> I thought you were screwing around. I posted.

Y^ou were right, he's just trolling. He does that a lot.

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Date: 18 Dec 2008 13:10:21
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: limit betting/raise question
On Dec 18 2008 2:20 PM, garycarson wrote:

> Y^ou were right, he's just trolling. He does that a lot.

No Gary, you're wrong again. I just screwed up the wording in the first
post, but have since corrected myself several times.

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Date: 18 Dec 2008 13:16:13
From: John_Brian_K
Subject: Re: limit betting/raise question
> No Gary, you're wrong again. I just screwed up the wording in the first
> post, but have since corrected myself several times.

I didn't see any corrections.

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Date: 18 Dec 2008 13:24:53
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: limit betting/raise question
On Dec 18 2008 3:16 PM, John_Brian_K wrote:

> I didn't see any corrections.

http://www.recgroups.com/a/1/1343046/

http://www.recgroups.com/a/1/1343052/

http://www.recgroups.com/a/1/1343048/

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Date: 18 Dec 2008 13:37:20
From: John_Brian_K
Subject: Re: limit betting/raise question
> http://www.recgroups.com/a/1/1343046/
>
> http://www.recgroups.com/a/1/1343052/
>
> http://www.recgroups.com/a/1/1343048/

?

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Date: 18 Dec 2008 13:39:45
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: limit betting/raise question
On Dec 18 2008 3:37 PM, John_Brian_K wrote:

> ?

http://amishrakefight.org/gfy

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Date: 18 Dec 2008 12:26:00
From: MMelia
Subject: Re: limit betting/raise question
On Dec 18 2008 3:20 PM, garycarson wrote:

> On Dec 18 2008 3:15 PM, MMelia wrote:
>
> > On Dec 18 2008 3:11 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:
> >
> > > On Dec 18 2008 2:05 PM, MMelia wrote:
> > >
> > > > uh... its limit. Did I do good George? Huh? Huh? Can I pet the
> rabiits?
> > >
> > > So your answer to "how much can the BB raise to" is "uh... its limit"??
> > > Am I reading that correctly?
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Morphy
> > > xaqmorphy@donkeymanifesto.com
> > > http://www.donkeymanifesto.com
> > > "SHUT UP IDIOT" --The Great Patholio
> >
> > I thought you were screwing around. I posted.
>
> Y^ou were right, he's just trolling. He does that a lot.

Man, you don't miss an opportunity to needle someone do ya.

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