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Date: 16 Feb 2009 20:12:10
From: mccard
Subject: heh, Begala smokes the reptiles
Don't like the stimulus Mr. Governor, don't take the money, LOL.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/16/begala.carolina/index.html?iref=mpstoryview





 
Date: 18 Feb 2009 09:11:38
From: Travel
Subject: Re: heh, Begala smokes the reptiles
"mccard" Usenet Poster
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9:11 PM
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"Don't like the stimulus Mr. Governor, don't take the money, LOL"

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The governor of South Carolina announced that he's NOT going to take
the money, LOL.

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Date: 18 Feb 2009 07:59:22
From: risky biz
Subject: Re: heh, Begala smokes the reptiles
On Feb 18 2009 8:11 AM, Travel wrote:

> "mccard" Usenet Poster
> no_won@no_won.none Post #1 of 8 (5 views) Copy Shortcut Feb 16, 2009,
> 9:11 PM
> heh, Begala smokes the reptiles Reply
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------

>
> "Don't like the stimulus Mr. Governor, don't take the money, LOL"
>
> ........................................................................

>
>
> The governor of South Carolina announced that he's NOT going to take
> the money, LOL.

South Carolina is already taking the money, has been for years, and will
probably continue sucking on the Federal tit for the rest of it's life-
$1.38 of Federal dollars for every dollar of Federal taxes thay pay. LOL.
It's all phony grandstanding, travel- BUT YOU DON'T GET IT.

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Date: 18 Feb 2009 10:41:47
From: Travel
Subject: Re: heh, Begala smokes the reptiles
Actually, it's you who does "get it", and you don't like it. He threw
the spending back at the communist Democrats.

You're pathetically reduced to name-calling at the State of South
Carolina.

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Date: 18 Feb 2009 22:27:45
From: risky biz
Subject: Re: heh, Begala smokes the reptiles
On Feb 18 2009 9:41 AM, Travel wrote:

> Actually, it's you who does "get it", and you don't like it. He threw
> the spending back at the communist Democrats.
>
> You're pathetically reduced to name-calling at the State of South
> Carolina.

You're very nearly as much of a dim bulb as Jason Pawloski and James
Hankins.

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Date: 19 Feb 2009 03:51:43
From: Travel
Subject: Re: heh, Begala smokes the reptiles
Bobby Jindal just announced that he has to look over the state funding
from the spending bill before he decides whether to accept.

Obama just signed the bill and that's...

Bobby Jindal- governor of Louisiana

Mark Sanford- governor of South Caolina

Haley Barbour- Governor of Mississippi

Sarah Palin- Governor of Alaska

...so far. Tol'ja.

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Date: 19 Feb 2009 07:37:29
From: risky biz
Subject: Re: heh, Begala smokes the reptiles
On Feb 19 2009 2:51 AM, Travel wrote:

> Bobby Jindal just announced that he has to look over the state funding
> from the spending bill before he decides whether to accept.
>
> Obama just signed the bill and that's...
>
> Bobby Jindal- governor of Louisiana
>
> Mark Sanford- governor of South Caolina
>
> Haley Barbour- Governor of Mississippi
>
> Sarah Palin- Governor of Alaska
>
> ....so far. Tol'ja.

If they keep their population poor and stupid enough they could get
re-elected in perpetuity. I guess that their current level of being net
consumers of Federal tax revenue has already established their baseline
for average state resident stupidity and they don't want to risk
disequilibrium.

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Date: 19 Feb 2009 13:11:41
From: Travel
Subject: Re: heh, Begala smokes the reptiles
Pickle's from Louisiana, so I'll give you partial credit.

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Date: 19 Feb 2009 18:55:24
From: risky biz
Subject: Re: heh, Begala smokes the reptiles
On Feb 19 2009 12:11 PM, Travel wrote:

> Pickle's from Louisiana, so I'll give you partial credit.

Anyone who thinks those UFO sightings in Louisiana are swamp gas are just
whistling by the cemetery. THEY ARE AMONG US.

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Date: 16 Feb 2009 18:53:02
From: risky biz
Subject: Re: heh, Begala smokes the reptiles
On Feb 16 2009 7:12 PM, mccard wrote:

> Don't like the stimulus Mr. Governor, don't take the money, LOL.
>
>
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/16/begala.carolina/index.html?iref=mpstoryview

Waiting for a brilliant response from pickles and hankins.

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Date: 17 Feb 2009 07:42:14
From: da pickle
Subject: Re: heh, Begala smokes the reptiles
"risky biz"

>> Don't like the stimulus Mr. Governor, don't take the money, LOL.
>
> Waiting for a brilliant response from pickles and hankins.

The brilliance is that you do not understand that Begala's comments are a
perfect illustration of the problem.

He even quotes Justice Brandeis and turns the "laboratory" upside down.

The most famous user of this method of shutting out opposition was Gov. Huey
Long. Louisiana has never recovered from the lingering Long-antiLong
division in state politics. The method has just shifted to the fed.

A new legislator during those wonderful years was either "with us" or
"against us" ... Huey would have been president had he not been
assassinated. The governor would come to a new legislator and tell him how
many paid position in the highway department he got ... the new guy would be
told he could put his wife and any relatives or friends he wanted into the
positions ... no work, just pay. The choice was immediate ... either play
or "pay" ... if the new legislator refused to go along ... the highway
maintenance stopped at his parish line ... it was extremely effective. The
mob works in much the same way ... make them an offer they cannot refuse.

Don't take the money ... SSDD.





   
Date: 17 Feb 2009 07:58:25
From: risky biz
Subject: Re: heh, Begala smokes the reptiles
On Feb 17 2009 6:42 AM, da pickle wrote:

> "risky biz"
>
> >> Don't like the stimulus Mr. Governor, don't take the money, LOL.
> >
> > Waiting for a brilliant response from pickles and hankins.
>
> The brilliance is that you do not understand that Begala's comments are a
> perfect illustration of the problem.
>
> He even quotes Justice Brandeis and turns the "laboratory" upside down.
>
> The most famous user of this method of shutting out opposition was Gov. Huey
> Long. Louisiana has never recovered from the lingering Long-antiLong
> division in state politics. The method has just shifted to the fed.
>
> A new legislator during those wonderful years was either "with us" or
> "against us" ... Huey would have been president had he not been
> assassinated. The governor would come to a new legislator and tell him how
> many paid position in the highway department he got ... the new guy would be
> told he could put his wife and any relatives or friends he wanted into the
> positions ... no work, just pay. The choice was immediate ... either play
> or "pay" ... if the new legislator refused to go along ... the highway
> maintenance stopped at his parish line ... it was extremely effective. The
> mob works in much the same way ... make them an offer they cannot refuse.
>
> Don't take the money ... SSDD.

A perfect 10 for brilliance. Where's hankins?

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Date: 17 Feb 2009 13:11:44
From: Travel
Subject: Re: heh, Begala smokes the reptiles
What's not being discussed in the national debate on the spending bill,
are the strings attached to the state funding.

A few political tidbits:

Once the Democrat run federal Government is paying for the construction
of schools all over the country, they can tell the various states what
to do. The bill was supposedly revised to provide for the renovations
of schools, only, and not new construction; but that doesn't matter,
the strings attached don't get revised. Plus. there's always the next
bill. How about the regular budget?

Does anyone know what that might be? Say, the federal government
forcing of open season for admitting illegal alien children in every
state's public schools. Use your imagination. Buy stock in condom
companies. Short sell American flag manufacturing companies.

Maybe when this spending bill sets them all free, Jimmy Carter can
welcome all 20 million illegal alien freeloaders with open arms. Maybe
he'll even thank the taxpayers.

Wonder where all those spending bill billions for low income children's
health care will wind up? Where will the "Hispanic vote" wind up?

That's an advantage for the Democrats: "nobody in congress has read the
bill." I suspect that no one in congress wants to talk about the
details, is closer to the truth. They do have staffs per member in
congress who's job it is to study exactly this kind of complicated
legislation.

Who wrote the fuckin' thing, don't they talk to anybody?


The Congressional Budget Office states that the spending bill will
lower the GDP within 10 years. That's a biggie. Not to mention the
obvious trillion dollar debt and bond ratings problems.

Karl Rove dug this out of the Congressional Budget Office study: They
say that the economy would be as well off by doing nothing as using the
spending bill.

In effect, the CBO is saying that, eventually, there'll be a net loss
in the economy because of the spending bill; compared to not having a
spending bill at all.

Socialism is no longer just a term of political rhetoric aimed at the
Democrats, it's here.

There will be 200 new government programs resulting from the spending
bill. They won't go way.

It's the reason why the governor of Mississippi Haley Barbour stated
that, after looking over all strings attached, he may not accept some
or all of the "state bail-out" money. It'll be cheaper to refuse the
money in the long-run; not to mention giving up states rights to
socialism by agreeing to the terms of the federal government power
play.

Sarah Palin said basically the same thing, recently. Accepting the
money will establish federal government programs that will hurt Alaska
somewhere down the road.

(Remember the CBO statements about the GDP...)

It's the Republican governors of the country who may blow this spending
bill out of the water, politically. They're all going to read the part
of the bill that effects their states, VERY carefully.

The Democrats are obviously worried. So, when you see a Republican
governor attacked and ridiculed in opinion pieces, don't be surprised.

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Date: 17 Feb 2009 19:37:12
From: risky biz
Subject: Re: heh, Begala smokes the reptiles
On Feb 17 2009 12:11 PM, Travel wrote:

> It's the reason why the governor of Mississippi Haley Barbour stated
> that, after looking over all strings attached, he may not accept some
> or all of the "state bail-out" money. It'll be cheaper to refuse the
> money in the long-run; not to mention giving up states rights to
> socialism by agreeing to the terms of the federal government power
> play.
>
> Sarah Palin said basically the same thing, recently. Accepting the
> money will establish federal government programs that will hurt Alaska
> somewhere down the road.
>
> (Remember the CBO statements about the GDP...)

Mississippi and Alaska- those are two of the welfare pimps of the United
States that Begala is talking about, aren't they?

In the first place, why would anyone intelligent want economic advice from
these freeloaders and, in the second place, they will probably take every
cent and ask for more.

>
> It's the Republican governors of the country who may blow this spending
> bill out of the water, politically. They're all going to read the part
> of the bill that effects their states, VERY carefully.

Yeah, sure they will- then shoot off their hypocritical mouths at a press
conference before they ask how soon they can get the money.

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Date: 17 Feb 2009 22:03:20
From: FL Turbo
Subject: Re: heh, Begala smokes the reptiles
On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 19:37:12 -0800, "risky biz"
<risky-biz@sbcglobal.net > wrote:

>On Feb 17 2009 12:11 PM, Travel wrote:
>
>> It's the reason why the governor of Mississippi Haley Barbour stated
>> that, after looking over all strings attached, he may not accept some
>> or all of the "state bail-out" money. It'll be cheaper to refuse the
>> money in the long-run; not to mention giving up states rights to
>> socialism by agreeing to the terms of the federal government power
>> play.
>>
>> Sarah Palin said basically the same thing, recently. Accepting the
>> money will establish federal government programs that will hurt Alaska
>> somewhere down the road.
>>
>> (Remember the CBO statements about the GDP...)
>
>Mississippi and Alaska- those are two of the welfare pimps of the United
>States that Begala is talking about, aren't they?
>
>In the first place, why would anyone intelligent want economic advice from
>these freeloaders and, in the second place, they will probably take every
>cent and ask for more.
>
>>
>> It's the Republican governors of the country who may blow this spending
>> bill out of the water, politically. They're all going to read the part
>> of the bill that effects their states, VERY carefully.
>
>Yeah, sure they will- then shoot off their hypocritical mouths at a press
>conference before they ask how soon they can get the money.
>

If everyone else is standing with their hands out for the money, they
would be damn fools for not doing the same, wouldn't they?

You ain't too smart, are you risky?


     
Date: 17 Feb 2009 13:31:48
From: Susan
Subject: Re: heh, Begala smokes the reptiles

"Travel" <nine510@webtv.net > wrote in message
news:1234898777.42071@pokermagazine.com...
> What's not being discussed in the national debate on the spending bill,
> are the strings attached to the state funding.
>
> A few political tidbits:
>
> Once the Democrat run federal Government is paying for the construction
> of schools all over the country, they can tell the various states what
> to do. The bill was supposedly revised to provide for the renovations
> of schools, only, and not new construction; but that doesn't matter,
> the strings attached don't get revised. Plus. there's always the next
> bill. How about the regular budget?
>
> Does anyone know what that might be? Say, the federal government
> forcing of open season for admitting illegal alien children in every
> state's public schools. Use your imagination. Buy stock in condom
> companies. Short sell American flag manufacturing companies.
>
> Maybe when this spending bill sets them all free, Jimmy Carter can
> welcome all 20 million illegal alien freeloaders with open arms. Maybe
> he'll even thank the taxpayers.
>
> Wonder where all those spending bill billions for low income children's
> health care will wind up? Where will the "Hispanic vote" wind up?
>
> That's an advantage for the Democrats: "nobody in congress has read the
> bill." I suspect that no one in congress wants to talk about the
> details, is closer to the truth. They do have staffs per member in
> congress who's job it is to study exactly this kind of complicated
> legislation.
>
> Who wrote the fuckin' thing, don't they talk to anybody?
>
>
> The Congressional Budget Office states that the spending bill will
> lower the GDP within 10 years. That's a biggie. Not to mention the
> obvious trillion dollar debt and bond ratings problems.
>
> Karl Rove dug this out of the Congressional Budget Office study: They
> say that the economy would be as well off by doing nothing as using the
> spending bill.
>
> In effect, the CBO is saying that, eventually, there'll be a net loss
> in the economy because of the spending bill; compared to not having a
> spending bill at all.
>
> Socialism is no longer just a term of political rhetoric aimed at the
> Democrats, it's here.
>
> There will be 200 new government programs resulting from the spending
> bill. They won't go way.
>
> It's the reason why the governor of Mississippi Haley Barbour stated
> that, after looking over all strings attached, he may not accept some
> or all of the "state bail-out" money. It'll be cheaper to refuse the
> money in the long-run; not to mention giving up states rights to
> socialism by agreeing to the terms of the federal government power
> play.
>
> Sarah Palin said basically the same thing, recently. Accepting the
> money will establish federal government programs that will hurt Alaska
> somewhere down the road.
>
> (Remember the CBO statements about the GDP...)
>
> It's the Republican governors of the country who may blow this spending
> bill out of the water, politically. They're all going to read the part
> of the bill that effects their states, VERY carefully.
>
> The Democrats are obviously worried. So, when you see a Republican
> governor attacked and ridiculed in opinion pieces, don't be surprised.
>

I was just reading that the LA-Vegas rail isn't the only one - there is also
8B for Chicago rail.