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Date: 10 Dec 2008 20:13:08
From: FangBanger
Subject: donkeyban's sharkscope.. error ?
Username Games Played Av. Profit Av. Stake Av. ROI
Total Profit Form Network Filter
ferozfan 448 -$3 $27 -8% -$1,255 - FullTilt x
ThreesomeAAA 741 -$8 $47 -12% -$5,706 - FullTilt x
ThreesomeAAA 294 -$3 $42 -16% -$994 - PokerStars x

donkster .. i didnt want to bother you while you were playing , but here
are your sharkscope figures

over 1000 tournies and a net loss of 6700 dollars

kinda weird !!

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Date: 10 Dec 2008 21:41:44
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: donkeyban's sharkscope.. error ?
On Dec 10 2008 10:13 PM, FangBanger wrote:

> kinda weird !!

Here you go:

Full Tilt Poker Game #9433914558: Table Bonneville (6 max) - $2/$4 - Pot
Limit Omaha Hi - 0:28:58 ET - 2008/12/11
Seat 1: gdUpfrmthftUp ($378)
Seat 2: 2BOO2BOO ($516.90)
Seat 3: VerySexual ($444.20)
Seat 4: wheelspinner ($326.70)
Seat 5: ThreesomeAAA ($114.40)
Seat 6: BenemC ($404.40)
2BOO2BOO posts the small blind of $2
VerySexual posts the big blind of $4
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
wheelspinner has 15 seconds left to act
wheelspinner calls $4
ThreesomeAAA raises to $11
BenemC calls $11
gdUpfrmthftUp folds
2BOO2BOO folds
VerySexual has 15 seconds left to act
VerySexual folds
wheelspinner calls $7
*** FLOP *** [Ah Js 7s]
wheelspinner checks
ThreesomeAAA checks
BenemC checks
*** TURN *** [Ah Js 7s] [2h]
wheelspinner has 15 seconds left to act
wheelspinner checks
ThreesomeAAA bets $39
BenemC calls $39
wheelspinner folds
*** RIVER *** [Ah Js 7s 2h] [As]
ThreesomeAAA bets $64.40, and is all in
BenemC calls $64.40
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ThreesomeAAA shows [2s 2d Qc 8d] a full house, Twos full of Aces
BenemC mucks
ThreesomeAAA wins the pot ($242.80) with a full house, Twos full of Aces
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $245.80


  
Date: 11 Dec 2008 04:56:37
From: Porsche_Dan
Subject: Re: donkeyban's sharkscope.. error ?
On Dec 10, 11:41=A0pm, "XaQ Morphy" <a1c5...@webnntp.invalid > wrote:
> On Dec 10 2008 10:13 PM, FangBanger wrote:
>
> > kinda weird !!
>
> Here you go:
>
> Full Tilt Poker Game #9433914558: Table Bonneville (6 max) - $2/$4 - Pot
> Limit Omaha Hi - 0:28:58 ET - 2008/12/11
> Seat 1: gdUpfrmthftUp ($378)
> Seat 2: 2BOO2BOO ($516.90)
> Seat 3: VerySexual ($444.20)
> Seat 4: wheelspinner ($326.70)
> Seat 5: ThreesomeAAA ($114.40)

Who is the dummass that keeps staking him?



   
Date: 11 Dec 2008 06:23:21
From: DonkeyBanAA
Subject: Re: donkeyban's sharkscope.. error ?
:)


On Dec 11 2008 6:56 AM, Porsche_Dan wrote:

> On Dec 10, 11:41 pm, "XaQ Morphy" <a1c5...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> > On Dec 10 2008 10:13 PM, FangBanger wrote:
> >
> > > kinda weird !!
> >
> > Here you go:
> >
> > Full Tilt Poker Game #9433914558: Table Bonneville (6 max) - $2/$4 - Pot
> > Limit Omaha Hi - 0:28:58 ET - 2008/12/11
> > Seat 1: gdUpfrmthftUp ($378)
> > Seat 2: 2BOO2BOO ($516.90)
> > Seat 3: VerySexual ($444.20)
> > Seat 4: wheelspinner ($326.70)
> > Seat 5: ThreesomeAAA ($114.40)
>
> Who is the dummass that keeps staking him?

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Date: 10 Dec 2008 21:42:44
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: donkeyban's sharkscope.. error ?
On Dec 10 2008 11:41 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:

> Here you go:

and, ummm...

Full Tilt Poker Game #9433974236: Table Bonneville (6 max) - $2/$4 - Pot
Limit Omaha Hi - 0:33:20 ET - 2008/12/11
Seat 1: gdUpfrmthftUp ($400), is sitting out
Seat 2: 2BOO2BOO ($514.90)
Seat 3: VerySexual ($438.20)
Seat 5: ThreesomeAAA ($155.30)
Seat 6: BenemC ($355)
BenemC posts the small blind of $2
2BOO2BOO posts the big blind of $4
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
gdUpfrmthftUp has returned
VerySexual has 15 seconds left to act
VerySexual raises to $14
ThreesomeAAA calls $14
BenemC calls $12
2BOO2BOO has 15 seconds left to act
2BOO2BOO folds
*** FLOP *** [9s 3h Ac]
BenemC has 15 seconds left to act
BenemC checks
VerySexual checks
ThreesomeAAA bets $46
BenemC folds
VerySexual calls $46
*** TURN *** [9s 3h Ac] [6d]
VerySexual checks
ThreesomeAAA bets $95.30, and is all in
VerySexual calls $95.30
ThreesomeAAA shows [9d 3c Td Th]
VerySexual shows [7h Ah 3d As]
*** RIVER *** [9s 3h Ac 6d] [4h]
ThreesomeAAA shows two pair, Nines and Threes
VerySexual shows three of a kind, Aces
VerySexual wins the pot ($326.60) with three of a kind, Aces
ThreesomeAAA is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $328.60


   
Date: 11 Dec 2008 06:13:56
From: FellKnight
Subject: Re: donkeyban's sharkscope.. error ?
On Dec 11 2008 12:42 AM, XaQ Morphy wrote:

> On Dec 10 2008 11:41 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:
>
> > Here you go:
>
> and, ummm...

MY EYESSSSS!!!

Please to be including warnings when you post stuff like that!

I SUE YOU LONG TIME!

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Date: 10 Dec 2008 20:55:14
From: Porsche_Dan
Subject: Re: donkeyban's sharkscope.. error ?
On Dec 10, 10:13=A0pm, "FangBanger" <a29b...@webnntp.invalid > wrote:
> Username =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Games Played Av. Profit =
Av. Stake Av. ROI
> Total Profit Form Network Filter =A0
> ferozfan =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 448 -$3 =A0 $27 =A0 =
-8% -$1,255 =A0 - FullTilt =A0x
> ThreesomeAAA =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0741 -$8 =A0 $47 =A0 -12% -$5,706 =A0 =
- FullTilt =A0x
> ThreesomeAAA =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0294 -$3 =A0 $42 =A0 -16% -$994 =A0 - =
PokerStars =A0x
>
> donkster .. i didnt want to bother you while you were playing , but here
> are your sharkscope figures
>
> over 1000 tournies and a net loss of 6700 dollars
>
> kinda weird !!

SharkScope is for SNGs not MTTs. You are -$486 of 370 games on FTP



  
Date: 10 Dec 2008 22:31:09
From: FangBanger
Subject: Re: donkeyban's sharkscope.. error ?
On Dec 10 2008 10:55 PM, Porsche_Dan wrote:

> On Dec 10, 10:13 pm, "FangBanger" <a29b...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> > Username                     Games Played Av. Profit Av. Stake Av. ROI
> > Total Profit Form Network Filter  
> > ferozfan                       448 -$3   $27   -8% -$1,255   - FullTilt  x
> > ThreesomeAAA            741 -$8   $47   -12% -$5,706   - FullTilt  x
> > ThreesomeAAA            294 -$3   $42   -16% -$994   - PokerStars  x
> >
> > donkster .. i didnt want to bother you while you were playing , but here
> > are your sharkscope figures
> >
> > over 1000 tournies and a net loss of 6700 dollars
> >
> > kinda weird !!
>
> SharkScope is for SNGs not MTTs. You are -$486 of 370 games on FTP

so then .. he is 6700 loser to sng's and 50k winner to mtt's ?

my point in posting this is that if they are trying to sell this crap..

SHOULDNT IT BE CORRECT ?




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Date: 11 Dec 2008 10:33:39
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: donkeyban's sharkscope.. error ?
On Dec 11 2008 12:31 AM, FangBanger wrote:

> so then .. he is 6700 loser to sng's and 50k winner to mtt's ?
>
> my point in posting this is that if they are trying to sell this crap..
>
> SHOULDNT IT BE CORRECT ?

What are you on about now? Are you somehow saying that Sharkscope isn't
accurate because they don't include MTT stats?

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Date: 11 Dec 2008 11:00:39
From: FangBanger
Subject: Re: donkeyban's sharkscope.. error ?
On Dec 11 2008 12:33 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:

> On Dec 11 2008 12:31 AM, FangBanger wrote:
>
> > so then .. he is 6700 loser to sng's and 50k winner to mtt's ?
> >
> > my point in posting this is that if they are trying to sell this crap..
> >
> > SHOULDNT IT BE CORRECT ?
>
> What are you on about now? Are you somehow saying that Sharkscope isn't
> accurate because they don't include MTT stats?
>
> ---
> Morphy
> xaqmorphy@donkeymanifesto.com
> http://www.donkeymanifesto.com
> "SHUT UP IDIOT" --The Great Patholio

nope.. I am saying that if it is accurate , then this player is the worlds
biggest sucker at SNG's , but he claims that he is HUUUUUGE winner to
MTT's ..??

Someone played those events , and who ever played em did so with an
absolutely TERRIBLE success rate . it isnt like someone went through and
picked out a block of 20-30 events that they played drunk or were goofing
around .

There are over 1000 events here and the compilation shows a failure that
could be likened to someone who plays "blind".

I expected to see reasonable success rates or at least a winning record at
PS , but these numbers are consistently HORRIBLE!!

How is that explained ?


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Date: 11 Dec 2008 12:30:35
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: donkeyban's sharkscope.. error ?
On Dec 11 2008 1:00 PM, FangBanger wrote:

> nope.. I am saying that if it is accurate , then this player is the worlds
> biggest sucker at SNG's , but he claims that he is HUUUUUGE winner to
> MTT's ..??
>
> Someone played those events , and who ever played em did so with an
> absolutely TERRIBLE success rate . it isnt like someone went through and
> picked out a block of 20-30 events that they played drunk or were goofing
> around .
>
> There are over 1000 events here and the compilation shows a failure that
> could be likened to someone who plays "blind".
>
> I expected to see reasonable success rates or at least a winning record at
> PS , but these numbers are consistently HORRIBLE!!
>
> How is that explained ?

Ahh ok got it. Well for one, if you've ever watched him play a MTT (which
you did the other night), your head will spin. He's definitely a "feel"
player with little understanding of the math or even straight ahead
tourney thinking involved. That works great when he has a stack to bully
people with, but in situations like a SNG with very limited chips or cash
games, where people just sit there and nut peddle all day, he never
adjusts and just assumes people will react the same way they do in MTT's,
which is mostly just trying to make the money, then after that trying to
preserve chips.

Este's cool and all, but he and his supporters will take a few cases where
he cashes big and try to turn that into him being some poker
megasuperstar. Fact is, he's a break even player, maybe even losing
overall if you add in his cash game adventures.

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Date: 11 Dec 2008 11:08:58
From: FellKnight
Subject: Re: donkeyban's sharkscope.. error ?
On Dec 11 2008 2:00 PM, FangBanger wrote:

> On Dec 11 2008 12:33 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:
>
> > On Dec 11 2008 12:31 AM, FangBanger wrote:
> >
> > > so then .. he is 6700 loser to sng's and 50k winner to mtt's ?
> > >
> > > my point in posting this is that if they are trying to sell this crap..
> > >
> > > SHOULDNT IT BE CORRECT ?
> >
> > What are you on about now? Are you somehow saying that Sharkscope isn't
> > accurate because they don't include MTT stats?
> >
> > ---
> > Morphy
> > xaqmorphy@donkeymanifesto.com
> > http://www.donkeymanifesto.com
> > "SHUT UP IDIOT" --The Great Patholio
>
> nope.. I am saying that if it is accurate , then this player is the worlds
> biggest sucker at SNG's , but he claims that he is HUUUUUGE winner to
> MTT's ..??
>
> Someone played those events , and who ever played em did so with an
> absolutely TERRIBLE success rate . it isnt like someone went through and
> picked out a block of 20-30 events that they played drunk or were goofing
> around .
>
> There are over 1000 events here and the compilation shows a failure that
> could be likened to someone who plays "blind".
>
> I expected to see reasonable success rates or at least a winning record at
> PS , but these numbers are consistently HORRIBLE!!
>
> How is that explained ?
>
>
> Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
> Voltaire

Esteban plays cash games and SnGs like MTTs (which is not correct)?

It's really not that hard.

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Date: 10 Dec 2008 20:25:34
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: donkeyban's sharkscope.. error ?
On Dec 10 2008 10:13 PM, FangBanger wrote:

> Username Games Played Av. Profit Av. Stake Av. ROI
> Total Profit Form Network Filter
> ferozfan 448 -$3 $27 -8% -$1,255 - FullTilt x
> ThreesomeAAA 741 -$8 $47 -12% -$5,706 - FullTilt x
> ThreesomeAAA 294 -$3 $42 -16% -$994 - PokerStars x
>
> donkster .. i didnt want to bother you while you were playing , but here
> are your sharkscope figures
>
> over 1000 tournies and a net loss of 6700 dollars
>
> kinda weird !!

http://www.officialpokerrankings.com/pokerstars/ThreesomeAAA/poker/results/56BF95B823F545DE950BD1E7C3F520BF.html?t=2

http://www.officialpokerrankings.com/fulltiltpoker/ThreesomeAAA/poker/results/6A1079F6EDA04E21AE1455DBC0892677.html?t=2

almost break even with all that. Good thing there's no cash game tracker.

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Date: 10 Dec 2008 20:23:49
From: DonkeyBanAA
Subject: Re: donkeyban's sharkscope.. error ?
http://www.officialpokerrankings.com/pokerstars/ThreesomeAAA/poker/results/56BF95B823F545DE950BD1E7C3F520BF.html?t=2



On Dec 10 2008 10:13 PM, FangBanger wrote:

> Username Games Played Av. Profit Av. Stake Av. ROI
> Total Profit Form Network Filter
> ferozfan 448 -$3 $27 -8% -$1,255 - FullTilt x
> ThreesomeAAA 741 -$8 $47 -12% -$5,706 - FullTilt x
> ThreesomeAAA 294 -$3 $42 -16% -$994 - PokerStars x
>
> donkster .. i didnt want to bother you while you were playing , but here
> are your sharkscope figures
>
> over 1000 tournies and a net loss of 6700 dollars
>
> kinda weird !!

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Date: 10 Dec 2008 20:20:59
From: DonkeyBanAA
Subject: Re: donkeyban's sharkscope.. error ?
doest show a 12500 step 6 i won

On Dec 10 2008 10:13 PM, FangBanger wrote:

> Username Games Played Av. Profit Av. Stake Av. ROI
> Total Profit Form Network Filter
> ferozfan 448 -$3 $27 -8% -$1,255 - FullTilt x
> ThreesomeAAA 741 -$8 $47 -12% -$5,706 - FullTilt x
> ThreesomeAAA 294 -$3 $42 -16% -$994 - PokerStars x
>
> donkster .. i didnt want to bother you while you were playing , but here
> are your sharkscope figures
>
> over 1000 tournies and a net loss of 6700 dollars
>
> kinda weird !!

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