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Date: 15 Jan 2009 13:50:02
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Yep, it was Dave Keiser
Yep, for all of those who guessed that the handsome fellow 2nd from the
right in the photo I posted in my recent thread, "Anyone look familiar?",
you were correct, it IS our own, RGP's Mister Congeniality and Ambassador of
Goodwill, the one and only Dave Keiser. Even though the photo is from a
17-year old newspaper, I guess there is no mistaking that good looking and
ruggedly handsome face. Also, from all the sources I have heard from, Dave
was, and still is, quite the poker player.

I have re-scanned the photo, together with the article describing Dave's
finish in a local hold'em tournament, way back in 1992! Here he is. Ain't
he cute!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/22980481@N04/3200176722/sizes/o/







 
Date: 15 Jan 2009 14:53:17
From: Will_gamble
Subject: Re: Yep, it was Dave Keiser
So, what does that make him now, late 40s?
On Jan 15 2009 3:50 PM, Paul Popinjay wrote:

> Yep, for all of those who guessed that the handsome fellow 2nd from the
> right in the photo I posted in my recent thread, "Anyone look familiar?",
> you were correct, it IS our own, RGP's Mister Congeniality and Ambassador of
> Goodwill, the one and only Dave Keiser. Even though the photo is from a
> 17-year old newspaper, I guess there is no mistaking that good looking and
> ruggedly handsome face. Also, from all the sources I have heard from, Dave
> was, and still is, quite the poker player.
>
> I have re-scanned the photo, together with the article describing Dave's
> finish in a local hold'em tournament, way back in 1992! Here he is. Ain't
> he cute!
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/22980481@N04/3200176722/sizes/o/


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Date: 15 Jan 2009 19:49:12
From: FangBanger
Subject: Re: Yep, it was Dave Keiser
On Jan 15 2009 3:50 PM, Paul Popinjay wrote:

> Yep, for all of those who guessed that the handsome fellow 2nd from the
> right in the photo I posted in my recent thread, "Anyone look familiar?",
> you were correct, it IS our own, RGP's Mister Congeniality and Ambassador of
> Goodwill, the one and only Dave Keiser. Even though the photo is from a
> 17-year old newspaper, I guess there is no mistaking that good looking and
> ruggedly handsome face. Also, from all the sources I have heard from, Dave
> was, and still is, quite the poker player.
>
> I have re-scanned the photo, together with the article describing Dave's
> finish in a local hold'em tournament, way back in 1992! Here he is. Ain't
> he cute!
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/22980481@N04/3200176722/sizes/o/

Once I told you .. was there any doubt ?

I know Seymour Flop and cant place his real name


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Date: 17 Jan 2009 23:46:56
From: OrangeSFO
Subject: Re: Yep, it was Dave Keiser
On Jan 15, 11:17=A0pm, "RussGeorg...@aol.com"


> I still had parents and family in Seattle until 1979, so
> I'd come up for Xmas and such


Would they let you in the house?



> Seymour Flop is slang for See More Flops



Really?? I don't see it.





















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Date: 17 Jan 2009 16:12:27
From: IHeartWuzzy
Subject: Re: Yep, it was Dave Keiser
> I know Seymour Flop and cant place his real name
>

Real name is Adam Glasser... he changed professions but kept the Seymore:

http://tinyurl.com/sy5u7

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Date: 15 Jan 2009 23:17:50
From: RussGeorgiev@aol.com
Subject: Re: Yep, it was Dave Keiser
Paul

Dave and I didn't travel in the same circles. I wouldn't recognize
him. I played poker in Washington State until 1968, when a Republican
Governor shut down the poker rooms. Until then, the limits were much
higher and they had plenty of private games around. In 1972, $2 limit
poker was introduced in Wa. Two games played, 5 card stud high and 5
card stud low. Bet and two raises. At that time I was running far
larger after hour games in Seattle, plus playing in after hour games
in the area. All were PL dealers choice games at the time, except
mine, which was made for rake and was limit dealers choice, $5-$10 0r
$10-$20 limit. I had a nucleus of about 300 players and during the
weekend our average rake would be $10,000. Game would start on Friday
night at 10PM with me dealing out the deck and every Ace received $25.
If you got two Aces, it was doubled, three, tripled and four
quadrupled. Game would usually go until Monday morning, with two games
going many times.

After having the games busted a couple of times, plus problems with
the law, I finally left the NW again (left previously in 1968 and
moved to Gardena, where I played between there and vegas until 1971,
when I seperated from my wife.

Went to Montana a little after it opened in 1974, then back down to
Gardena. Guys like Dave Keiser still played up there in the small
limit games. The limit went up to $5.00 afew years later, but I didn't
play in those games. In most places, I wouldn't even go to since
they'd think I was stealing players.

Comparing Dave Keiser to myself is the same as comparing a BB to a
bowling ball. I still had parents and family in Seattle until 1979, so
I'd come up for Xmas and such, but I didn't play much poker in the
Seattle area. British Columbia, Alberta, Manitoba, and most of Western
Canada had far better and larger games. Plus, they were always at
least 5 years behind on the skill level of play, as they switched
games about 5 years after the US card rooms changed.

Kind of like when California opened for Holdem and Stud in the 80s.

Seymour Flop is slang for See More Flops, a term rounders would use on
live ones.

Plus, Washington State knew Omaha and Holdem very well, as these were
regular games being played in the 60s. Long before they became
mainstream.

Mike Caro wanted to do a feature on me in Western Gambler back in the
70s, since I was from the Seattle area. I didn't need any publicity,
so I declined. Linda Johnson wanted to interview me for Card Player
Rag back in the mid 90s, but I also refused. Interviews are always
done for free, but she offered me a TOKEN $100 as an enticement for my
ego. I still refused. Everyone knew me, by face or name. And in most
cases, I had management 100% behind me.

When I needed Health Insurance, I told management at Hollywood Park to
give me a job. It was basically something that they couldn't do, but
had to do. I received my paycheck in a racing form and was a silent
high stakes prop with NO SCHEDULE. This meant I did whatever whenever
and didn't answer to anyone. When Rick Cole died, Bruce Migdal was
fired and I was canned the next day as management changed. It took
months before by accident another prop by the name of Bob Golick found
out I was working there:).

Winning, let alone WCPers are not hired as props unless they have a
lot of power/management. Bobby Hoff and I were the only two in LA.
Props are basically like PT boats, meaning they are expendable. Most
management hire people who play badly or people that stricly place in
other casino's to offset their paychecks. Your basic $10-$20-$20-$40
prop earns/did earn $25 an hour plus benefits back in the 90s. Higher
stakes props earned up to $50 an hour and benefits. The only type prop
job that's any good is a silent prop. This allows the prop to play the
games which they like and stay in the games without being moved. The
regular props have a rough time, as when certain games get good, they
have to get out. When they're bad, they have to get back in.

Russ Georgiev

www.pokermafia.com
www.pokerunchecked.com
www.russgeorgiev.com






On Jan 15, 8:11=EF=BF=BDpm, "Paul Popinjay" <paulpopin...@sbcglobal.net >
wrote:
> "FangBanger" <a29b...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
>
> news:omc546xugb.ln2@recgroups.com...
>
>
>
> > I know Seymour Flop and cant place his real name
>
> I used to pick up the Western Gambler (or whatever it was called) all the
> time in Gardena. =EF=BF=BDLike I said, it was a newspaper about card room=
s in the
> NorthWest. =EF=BF=BDWell, seems like every issue I would thumb through it=
, and there
> was ALWAYS a picture of that guy having placed in some tourney. =EF=BF=BD=
Ha!
> "Seymour Flop" =EF=BF=BD He was probably a rock. =EF=BF=BDlol
>
> Gosh, if I remember correctly, for the longest time all I ever read about
> was limits of like 2-2-4-4, or 1-1-2-4, or 1-2-2-4. =EF=BF=BDOr some weir=
d thing
> like that. =EF=BF=BDSeems like the highest it was was like 5-5-5-10 for a=
while. =EF=BF=BDSo
> what was up with that? =EF=BF=BDWhen you and Russ are talking about big g=
ames up
> there and all, wasn't there like a limit of $10 or something, for quite a
> long time? =EF=BF=BDTell me what the deal was with that. =EF=BF=BDI do kn=
ow that in the "old
> days" it was deal-yur-own round tables up there, and the collection was
> really really low, I think like $4 max per hour or something. =EF=BF=BDI =
only once
> was up there, and I stopped at La Center once when I was visiting the
> racetrack in Portland.
>
> -PP



   
Date: 16 Jan 2009 00:19:46
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: Yep, it was Dave Keiser
<RussGeorgiev@aol.com > wrote in message
news:52483743-ce85-4676-92ed-4dd7f3a1b8a9@z27g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
Paul

Dave and I didn't travel in the same circles. I wouldn't recognize
him. I played poker in Washington State until 1968, when a Republican
Governor shut down the poker rooms. Until then, the limits were much

<snip great stories about poker in the NorthWest >

----------------------------------------------------

Great stories, Russ. Great history!

So Russ, when are you coming out with the next book? C'mon man, hurry up,
quit slowin up the game, we're paying collection! :-)

-Paul





    
Date: 16 Jan 2009 06:21:12
From: FangBanger
Subject: Re: Yep, it was Dave Keiser
On Jan 16 2009 2:19 AM, Paul Popinjay wrote:

> <RussGeorgiev@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:52483743-ce85-4676-92ed-4dd7f3a1b8a9@z27g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> Paul
>
> Dave and I didn't travel in the same circles. I wouldn't recognize
> him. I played poker in Washington State until 1968, when a Republican
> Governor shut down the poker rooms. Until then, the limits were much
>
> <snip great stories about poker in the NorthWest>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> Great stories, Russ. Great history!
>
> So Russ, when are you coming out with the next book? C'mon man, hurry up,
> quit slowin up the game, we're paying collection! :-)
>
> -Paul

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Date: 15 Jan 2009 20:11:20
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: Yep, it was Dave Keiser
"FangBanger" <a29bed1@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
news:omc546xugb.ln2@recgroups.com...

>
> I know Seymour Flop and cant place his real name
>

I used to pick up the Western Gambler (or whatever it was called) all the
time in Gardena. Like I said, it was a newspaper about card rooms in the
NorthWest. Well, seems like every issue I would thumb through it, and there
was ALWAYS a picture of that guy having placed in some tourney. Ha!
"Seymour Flop" He was probably a rock. lol

Gosh, if I remember correctly, for the longest time all I ever read about
was limits of like 2-2-4-4, or 1-1-2-4, or 1-2-2-4. Or some weird thing
like that. Seems like the highest it was was like 5-5-5-10 for awhile. So
what was up with that? When you and Russ are talking about big games up
there and all, wasn't there like a limit of $10 or something, for quite a
long time? Tell me what the deal was with that. I do know that in the "old
days" it was deal-yur-own round tables up there, and the collection was
really really low, I think like $4 max per hour or something. I only once
was up there, and I stopped at La Center once when I was visiting the
racetrack in Portland.

-PP




   
Date: 16 Jan 2009 06:17:26
From: FangBanger
Subject: Re: Yep, it was Dave Keiser
On Jan 15 2009 10:11 PM, Paul Popinjay wrote:

> "FangBanger" <a29bed1@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> news:omc546xugb.ln2@recgroups.com...
>
> >
> > I know Seymour Flop and cant place his real name
> >
>
> I used to pick up the Western Gambler (or whatever it was called) all the
> time in Gardena. Like I said, it was a newspaper about card rooms in the
> NorthWest. Well, seems like every issue I would thumb through it, and there
> was ALWAYS a picture of that guy having placed in some tourney. Ha!
> "Seymour Flop" He was probably a rock. lol
>
> Gosh, if I remember correctly, for the longest time all I ever read about
> was limits of like 2-2-4-4, or 1-1-2-4, or 1-2-2-4. Or some weird thing
> like that. Seems like the highest it was was like 5-5-5-10 for awhile. So
> what was up with that? When you and Russ are talking about big games up
> there and all, wasn't there like a limit of $10 or something, for quite a
> long time? Tell me what the deal was with that. I do know that in the "old
> days" it was deal-yur-own round tables up there, and the collection was
> really really low, I think like $4 max per hour or something. I only once
> was up there, and I stopped at La Center once when I was visiting the
> racetrack in Portland.
>
> -PP

The legal joints had 5 dollar limit . There was a 10 limit razz game at
the Riverside , and a 10 dollar razz game in vancouver (horseshoe i think)
It was considerd a force raise game , and when the floorman played or
any employee played . they would actuall make us bet 5 and raise 5.. but
it was a straight 10 limit .

The bigger games were private . 20-40 "nine card".. they called it nine
card in Seattle , and the Indians ran a 5-10 game all night in Puyallup.


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Date: 15 Jan 2009 17:08:04
From: Susan
Subject: Re: Yep, it was Dave Keiser

"Paul Popinjay" <paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net > wrote in message
news:efObl.2094$%54.1683@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com...
> Yep, for all of those who guessed that the handsome fellow 2nd from the
> right in the photo I posted in my recent thread, "Anyone look familiar?",
> you were correct, it IS our own, RGP's Mister Congeniality and Ambassador
> of
> Goodwill, the one and only Dave Keiser. Even though the photo is from a
> 17-year old newspaper, I guess there is no mistaking that good looking and
> ruggedly handsome face. Also, from all the sources I have heard from,
> Dave
> was, and still is, quite the poker player.
>
> I have re-scanned the photo, together with the article describing Dave's
> finish in a local hold'em tournament, way back in 1992! Here he is.
> Ain't
> he cute!
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/22980481@N04/3200176722/sizes/o/


He's hot




 
Date: 15 Jan 2009 16:39:05
From: mccard
Subject: Re: Yep, it was Dave Keiser

"Paul Popinjay" <paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net > wrote in message
news:efObl.2094$%54.1683@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com...
> Yep, for all of those who guessed that the handsome fellow 2nd from the
> right in the photo I posted in my recent thread, "Anyone look familiar?",
> you were correct, it IS our own, RGP's Mister Congeniality and Ambassador
> of
> Goodwill, the one and only Dave Keiser. Even though the photo is from a
> 17-year old newspaper, I guess there is no mistaking that good looking and
> ruggedly handsome face. Also, from all the sources I have heard from,
> Dave
> was, and still is, quite the poker player.
>
> I have re-scanned the photo, together with the article describing Dave's
> finish in a local hold'em tournament, way back in 1992! Here he is.
> Ain't
> he cute!
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/22980481@N04/3200176722/sizes/o/
>
>
Seymour Flop?



  
Date: 15 Jan 2009 17:43:25
From: Deadmoney Walking
Subject: Re: Yep, it was Dave Keiser
On Jan 15, 5:39=A0pm, "mccard" <no_won@no_won.none > wrote:
> "Paul Popinjay" <paulpopin...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>
> news:efObl.2094$%54.1683@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com...
>
>
>
> > Yep, for all of those who guessed that the handsome fellow 2nd from the
> > right in the photo I posted in my recent thread, "Anyone look familiar?=
",
> > you were correct, it IS our own, RGP's Mister Congeniality and Ambassad=
or
> > of
> > Goodwill, the one and only Dave Keiser. =A0Even though the photo is fro=
m a
> > 17-year old newspaper, I guess there is no mistaking that good looking =
and
> > ruggedly handsome face. =A0Also, from all the sources I have heard from=
,
> > Dave
> > was, and still is, quite the poker player.
>
> > I have re-scanned the photo, together with the article describing Dave'=
s
> > finish in a local hold'em tournament, way back in 1992! =A0Here he is.
> > Ain't
> > he cute!
>
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/22980481@N04/3200176722/sizes/o/
>
> Seymour Flop?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Lol, was he a paranoid pro?


 
Date: 15 Jan 2009 14:23:40
From: hanks
Subject: Re: Yep, it was Dave Keiser
On Jan 15 2009 1:50 PM, Paul Popinjay wrote:

> Yep, for all of those who guessed that the handsome fellow 2nd from the
> right in the photo I posted in my recent thread, "Anyone look familiar?",
> you were correct, it IS our own, RGP's Mister Congeniality and Ambassador of
> Goodwill, the one and only Dave Keiser. Even though the photo is from a
> 17-year old newspaper, I guess there is no mistaking that good looking and
> ruggedly handsome face. Also, from all the sources I have heard from, Dave
> was, and still is, quite the poker player.
>
> I have re-scanned the photo, together with the article describing Dave's
> finish in a local hold'em tournament, way back in 1992! Here he is. Ain't
> he cute!
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/22980481@N04/3200176722/sizes/o/

Are you sure it wasn't Seymour flop?
hanks

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