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Date: 18 Jan 2009 09:26:17
From: risky biz
Subject: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?
Just because it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck? One of Israel's
specialties, since day one of it's founding, has been summary execution of
civilians:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/18/israel-war-crimes-gaza-conflict

Don't expect very many of the American taxpayers financing this and whose
Democratic and Republican parties enthusiastically supports it to be
bothered by it.

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Date: 18 Jan 2009 13:31:23
From: MZB
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?
Analysis: Gaza's dead civilians are Hamas victims

Jan. 14, 2009
ALAN DERSHOWITZ , THE JERUSALEM POST

What if Israel defended its citizens the way the British, the French,
the Americans and the Russians did?

When German rockets hit British cities during the World War II, Prime
Minister Winston Churchill retaliated by bombing German cities,
killing thousands of German civilians, and promised to continue until
Germany's unconditional surrender.

The United States did the same following the Japanese attack on Pearl
Harbor. The French did much worse in Algeria and the Russians showed
no concern for civilian life in Chechnya or Georgia.

The IDF, on the other hand, has gone to extraordinary lengths to
minimize civilian casualties, despite the reality that Hamas
deliberately fires its rockets from densely populated civilian areas
and hides its rocket launchers in schools, hospitals and mosques.

Every Hamas rocket attack against Israeli civilians - and there have
been more than 6,500 of them since Israel ended its occupation of Gaza
- is an armed attack against Israel under Article 51 of the United
Nations Charter, which authorizes member nations to respond militarily
to armed attacks against it.

Under international law, Israel is entitled to do whatever it takes
militarily to stop Hamas rockets from targeting its civilians.

Every Hamas rocket has the potential to kill dozens of Israeli
civilians. Recently one hit a school just hours after the principal
dismissed the students, fearing such an attack. If the rocket had hit
and killed hundreds of schoolchildren, would those who protest Israeli
actions acknowledge that Israel would then have the right to respond?

In fact, under international law, Israel has the right to declare
all-out war against the Hamas-controlled government of Gaza. In an
all-out war, there would be no obligation to provide humanitarian
assistance, electricity or any other services to an enemy who had
started the war by an armed attack.

No one condemned Great Britain and the United States for the
collateral damage it caused while trying to defeat those who attacked
it during the Second World War.

Moreover, Germany did not deny the right of Great Britain or the
United States to exist. The Hamas Charter not only denies Israel's
right to exist, it calls for the complete destruction of the Jewish
state. Surely Israel has as much right to defend its citizens as did
the United States and Great Britain.

No country needs allow terrorists to play Russian roulette with the
lives of its children. Why, then, is Israel singled out for such
ferocious criticism?

Indeed, the only reason Israel has not won overwhelming military
victories in Lebanon in 2006 and in Gaza now, is that Israel has
decided to engage in only limited and proportional military actions
designed simply to stop the rocket attacks. Yet it is being condemned
both for not winning a decisive victory and for killing too many
civilians.

Hamas has learned how to manipulate the media's coverage of Israeli
military actions. They deliberately fire their rockets from behind
civilian shields in order to provoke Israel to respond and kill
civilians. They are then ready to bring out the cameras to record and
transmit every civilian death around the world.

Well, not quite every civilian death.

The day before Israel launched its air attack against Hamas, Hamas
fired a rocket in the general direction of Sderot. The rocket fell
short of its mark and landed within Gaza - killing two young
Palestinian girls.

Hamas, which imposes total censorship in Gaza, refused to allow
cameras to record or transmit pictures of these dead Palestinian
girls, because they were not killed by Israeli rockets, but rather by
Palestinian rockets.

The Hamas tactic is encouraged by selective condemnation of Israel.
Such condemnation creates a win-win situation for Hamas terrorism.
Every time they kill an Israeli civilian, they win; every time Israel
kills a Palestinian civilian, Hamas also wins.

The only way to defeat this cynical tactic is for the international
community to place the blame squarely on Hamas for engaging in the
double war crime of targeting Israeli civilians and using Palestinian
civilians as human shields.

The writer is a professor of law at Harvard. He is the author of many
books, including, most recently, The Case Against Israel's
Enemies.This article originally appeared as an entry on his blog
Double Standard Watch on JPost's BlogCentral
http://cgis.jpost.com/Blogs/

This article can also be read at http://www.jpost.com
/servlet/Satellite?cid=1231950849634&pagename=JPArticle%2FShowFull
[ Back to the Article ]

Copyright 1995- 2009 The Jerusalem Post - http://www.jpost.com/




"risky biz" <risky-biz@sbcglobal.net > wrote in message
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> Just because it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck? One of Israel's
> specialties, since day one of it's founding, has been summary execution of
> civilians:
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/18/israel-war-crimes-gaza-conflict
>
> Don't expect very many of the American taxpayers financing this and whose
> Democratic and Republican parties enthusiastically supports it to be
> bothered by it.
>
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Date: 18 Jan 2009 13:27:04
From: ChrisRobin
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?
On Jan 18 2009 1:31 PM, MZB wrote:

> Analysis: Gaza's dead civilians are Hamas victims
>
> Jan. 14, 2009
> ALAN DERSHOWITZ , THE JERUSALEM POST
>
> What if Israel defended its citizens the way the British, the French,
> the Americans and the Russians did?
>
> When German rockets hit British cities during the World War II, Prime
> Minister Winston Churchill retaliated by bombing German cities,
> killing thousands of German civilians, and promised to continue until
> Germany's unconditional surrender.
>
> The United States did the same following the Japanese attack on Pearl
> Harbor. The French did much worse in Algeria and the Russians showed
> no concern for civilian life in Chechnya or Georgia.
>
> The IDF, on the other hand, has gone to extraordinary lengths to
> minimize civilian casualties, despite the reality that Hamas
> deliberately fires its rockets from densely populated civilian areas
> and hides its rocket launchers in schools, hospitals and mosques.
>
> Every Hamas rocket attack against Israeli civilians - and there have
> been more than 6,500 of them since Israel ended its occupation of Gaza
> - is an armed attack against Israel under Article 51 of the United
> Nations Charter, which authorizes member nations to respond militarily
> to armed attacks against it.
>
> Under international law, Israel is entitled to do whatever it takes
> militarily to stop Hamas rockets from targeting its civilians.
>
> Every Hamas rocket has the potential to kill dozens of Israeli
> civilians. Recently one hit a school just hours after the principal
> dismissed the students, fearing such an attack. If the rocket had hit
> and killed hundreds of schoolchildren, would those who protest Israeli
> actions acknowledge that Israel would then have the right to respond?
>
> In fact, under international law, Israel has the right to declare
> all-out war against the Hamas-controlled government of Gaza. In an
> all-out war, there would be no obligation to provide humanitarian
> assistance, electricity or any other services to an enemy who had
> started the war by an armed attack.
>
> No one condemned Great Britain and the United States for the
> collateral damage it caused while trying to defeat those who attacked
> it during the Second World War.
>
> Moreover, Germany did not deny the right of Great Britain or the
> United States to exist. The Hamas Charter not only denies Israel's
> right to exist, it calls for the complete destruction of the Jewish
> state. Surely Israel has as much right to defend its citizens as did
> the United States and Great Britain.
>
> No country needs allow terrorists to play Russian roulette with the
> lives of its children. Why, then, is Israel singled out for such
> ferocious criticism?
>
> Indeed, the only reason Israel has not won overwhelming military
> victories in Lebanon in 2006 and in Gaza now, is that Israel has
> decided to engage in only limited and proportional military actions
> designed simply to stop the rocket attacks. Yet it is being condemned
> both for not winning a decisive victory and for killing too many
> civilians.
>
> Hamas has learned how to manipulate the media's coverage of Israeli
> military actions. They deliberately fire their rockets from behind
> civilian shields in order to provoke Israel to respond and kill
> civilians. They are then ready to bring out the cameras to record and
> transmit every civilian death around the world.
>
> Well, not quite every civilian death.
>
> The day before Israel launched its air attack against Hamas, Hamas
> fired a rocket in the general direction of Sderot. The rocket fell
> short of its mark and landed within Gaza - killing two young
> Palestinian girls.
>
> Hamas, which imposes total censorship in Gaza, refused to allow
> cameras to record or transmit pictures of these dead Palestinian
> girls, because they were not killed by Israeli rockets, but rather by
> Palestinian rockets.
>
> The Hamas tactic is encouraged by selective condemnation of Israel.
> Such condemnation creates a win-win situation for Hamas terrorism.
> Every time they kill an Israeli civilian, they win; every time Israel
> kills a Palestinian civilian, Hamas also wins.
>
> The only way to defeat this cynical tactic is for the international
> community to place the blame squarely on Hamas for engaging in the
> double war crime of targeting Israeli civilians and using Palestinian
> civilians as human shields.
>
> The writer is a professor of law at Harvard. He is the author of many
> books, including, most recently, The Case Against Israel's
> Enemies.This article originally appeared as an entry on his blog
> Double Standard Watch on JPost's BlogCentral
> http://cgis.jpost.com/Blogs/
>
> This article can also be read at http://www.jpost.com
> /servlet/Satellite?cid=1231950849634&pagename=JPArticle%2FShowFull
> [ Back to the Article ]
>
> Copyright 1995- 2009 The Jerusalem Post - http://www.jpost.com/
>
>
>
>
> "risky biz" <risky-biz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:pa5c46x3o9.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > Just because it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck? One of Israel's
> > specialties, since day one of it's founding, has been summary execution of
> > civilians:
> > http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/18/israel-war-crimes-gaza-conflict
> >
> > Don't expect very many of the American taxpayers financing this and whose
> > Democratic and Republican parties enthusiastically supports it to be
> > bothered by it.

Jesus Christ Mel. You seem like a nice enough kid. But regurgitating
propaganda from Alan Dershowitz isn't exactly a signal that you are
operating with a fully functional brain.

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Date: 19 Jan 2009 23:02:15
From: bub
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 13:27:04 -0800, "ChrisRobin"
<a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid > wrote:

>But regurgitating
>propaganda from Alan Dershowitz isn't exactly a signal that you are
>operating with a fully functional brain.

ha, this from a guy who regurgitates crap from Michael Ruppert and
prison planet re: 9/11.

what does that say about you operating with a fully functional brain?
i'm thinking just brain stem activity on your part.


   
Date: 18 Jan 2009 18:33:36
From: Pepe Papon
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 13:27:04 -0800, "ChrisRobin"
<a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid > wrote:

>Jesus Christ Mel. You seem like a nice enough kid. But regurgitating
>propaganda from Alan Dershowitz isn't exactly a signal that you are
>operating with a fully functional brain.

How does that compare with regurgitating propaganda from Iranian
websites?


    
Date: 19 Jan 2009 10:53:35
From: risky biz
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?
On Jan 18 2009 7:33 PM, Pepe Papon wrote:

> On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 13:27:04 -0800, "ChrisRobin"
> <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>
> >Jesus Christ Mel. You seem like a nice enough kid. But regurgitating
> >propaganda from Alan Dershowitz isn't exactly a signal that you are
> >operating with a fully functional brain.
>
> How does that compare with regurgitating propaganda from Iranian
> websites?

Where did that happen, "Pepe", or did you just make that up along with the
Israeli bullshit you've been repeating? You're getting more creative,
anyway.

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Date: 19 Jan 2009 21:16:20
From: Pepe Papon
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?
On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:53:35 -0800, "risky biz"
<risky-biz@sbcglobal.net > wrote:

>On Jan 18 2009 7:33 PM, Pepe Papon wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 13:27:04 -0800, "ChrisRobin"
>> <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> >Jesus Christ Mel. You seem like a nice enough kid. But regurgitating
>> >propaganda from Alan Dershowitz isn't exactly a signal that you are
>> >operating with a fully functional brain.
>>
>> How does that compare with regurgitating propaganda from Iranian
>> websites?
>
>Where did that happen, "Pepe", or did you just make that up along with the
>Israeli bullshit you've been repeating? You're getting more creative,
>anyway.

Right, it never happened. Except when you did it.


      
Date: 19 Jan 2009 23:06:22
From: risky biz
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?
On Jan 19 2009 10:16 PM, Pepe Papon wrote:

> On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:53:35 -0800, "risky biz"
> <risky-biz@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> >On Jan 18 2009 7:33 PM, Pepe Papon wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 13:27:04 -0800, "ChrisRobin"
> >> <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Jesus Christ Mel. You seem like a nice enough kid. But regurgitating
> >> >propaganda from Alan Dershowitz isn't exactly a signal that you are
> >> >operating with a fully functional brain.
> >>
> >> How does that compare with regurgitating propaganda from Iranian
> >> websites?
> >
> >Where did that happen, "Pepe", or did you just make that up along with the
> >Israeli bullshit you've been repeating? You're getting more creative,
> >anyway.
>
> Right, it never happened. Except when you did it.

Where did it happen, Pepe? Back to the question. Don't you have an answer?

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Date: 20 Jan 2009 02:35:40
From: Pepe Papon
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?
On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 23:06:22 -0800, "risky biz"
<risky-biz@sbcglobal.net > wrote:

>On Jan 19 2009 10:16 PM, Pepe Papon wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:53:35 -0800, "risky biz"
>> <risky-biz@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>> >On Jan 18 2009 7:33 PM, Pepe Papon wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 13:27:04 -0800, "ChrisRobin"
>> >> <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Jesus Christ Mel. You seem like a nice enough kid. But regurgitating
>> >> >propaganda from Alan Dershowitz isn't exactly a signal that you are
>> >> >operating with a fully functional brain.
>> >>
>> >> How does that compare with regurgitating propaganda from Iranian
>> >> websites?
>> >
>> >Where did that happen, "Pepe", or did you just make that up along with the
>> >Israeli bullshit you've been repeating? You're getting more creative,
>> >anyway.
>>
>> Right, it never happened. Except when you did it.
>
>Where did it happen, Pepe? Back to the question. Don't you have an answer?

I already answered it. Which part of "when you did it" are you having
trouble with?


        
Date: 20 Jan 2009 19:36:13
From: risky biz
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?
On Jan 20 2009 3:35 AM, Pepe Papon wrote:

> On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 23:06:22 -0800, "risky biz"
> <risky-biz@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> >On Jan 19 2009 10:16 PM, Pepe Papon wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:53:35 -0800, "risky biz"
> >> <risky-biz@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Jan 18 2009 7:33 PM, Pepe Papon wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 13:27:04 -0800, "ChrisRobin"
> >> >> <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Jesus Christ Mel. You seem like a nice enough kid. But regurgitating
> >> >> >propaganda from Alan Dershowitz isn't exactly a signal that you are
> >> >> >operating with a fully functional brain.
> >> >>
> >> >> How does that compare with regurgitating propaganda from Iranian
> >> >> websites?
> >> >
> >> >Where did that happen, "Pepe", or did you just make that up along with
the
> >> >Israeli bullshit you've been repeating? You're getting more creative,
> >> >anyway.
> >>
> >> Right, it never happened. Except when you did it.
> >
> >Where did it happen, Pepe? Back to the question. Don't you have an answer?
>
> I already answered it. Which part of "when you did it" are you having
> trouble with?

Unsurprisingly, I'm not having trouble with any part of it. You are having
trouble with every part of it, it seems.

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Date: 20 Jan 2009 21:58:44
From: Pepe Papon
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?
On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 19:36:13 -0800, "risky biz"
<risky-biz@sbcglobal.net > wrote:

>> I already answered it. Which part of "when you did it" are you having
>> trouble with?
>
>Unsurprisingly, I'm not having trouble with any part of it. You are having
>trouble with every part of it, it seems.

I'm sorry to hear that your memory is failing you.


   
Date: 18 Jan 2009 17:31:38
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?

"ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
news:8ejc46xiva.ln2@recgroups.com...
> On Jan 18 2009 1:31 PM, MZB wrote:
>
>> Analysis: Gaza's dead civilians are Hamas victims
>>
>> Jan. 14, 2009
>> ALAN DERSHOWITZ , THE JERUSALEM POST
>>
>> What if Israel defended its citizens the way the British, the French,
>> the Americans and the Russians did?
>>
>> When German rockets hit British cities during the World War II, Prime
>> Minister Winston Churchill retaliated by bombing German cities,
>> killing thousands of German civilians, and promised to continue until
>> Germany's unconditional surrender.
>>
>> The United States did the same following the Japanese attack on Pearl
>> Harbor. The French did much worse in Algeria and the Russians showed
>> no concern for civilian life in Chechnya or Georgia.
>>
>> The IDF, on the other hand, has gone to extraordinary lengths to
>> minimize civilian casualties, despite the reality that Hamas
>> deliberately fires its rockets from densely populated civilian areas
>> and hides its rocket launchers in schools, hospitals and mosques.
>>
>> Every Hamas rocket attack against Israeli civilians - and there have
>> been more than 6,500 of them since Israel ended its occupation of Gaza
>> - is an armed attack against Israel under Article 51 of the United
>> Nations Charter, which authorizes member nations to respond militarily
>> to armed attacks against it.
>>
>> Under international law, Israel is entitled to do whatever it takes
>> militarily to stop Hamas rockets from targeting its civilians.
>>
>> Every Hamas rocket has the potential to kill dozens of Israeli
>> civilians. Recently one hit a school just hours after the principal
>> dismissed the students, fearing such an attack. If the rocket had hit
>> and killed hundreds of schoolchildren, would those who protest Israeli
>> actions acknowledge that Israel would then have the right to respond?
>>
>> In fact, under international law, Israel has the right to declare
>> all-out war against the Hamas-controlled government of Gaza. In an
>> all-out war, there would be no obligation to provide humanitarian
>> assistance, electricity or any other services to an enemy who had
>> started the war by an armed attack.
>>
>> No one condemned Great Britain and the United States for the
>> collateral damage it caused while trying to defeat those who attacked
>> it during the Second World War.
>>
>> Moreover, Germany did not deny the right of Great Britain or the
>> United States to exist. The Hamas Charter not only denies Israel's
>> right to exist, it calls for the complete destruction of the Jewish
>> state. Surely Israel has as much right to defend its citizens as did
>> the United States and Great Britain.
>>
>> No country needs allow terrorists to play Russian roulette with the
>> lives of its children. Why, then, is Israel singled out for such
>> ferocious criticism?
>>
>> Indeed, the only reason Israel has not won overwhelming military
>> victories in Lebanon in 2006 and in Gaza now, is that Israel has
>> decided to engage in only limited and proportional military actions
>> designed simply to stop the rocket attacks. Yet it is being condemned
>> both for not winning a decisive victory and for killing too many
>> civilians.
>>
>> Hamas has learned how to manipulate the media's coverage of Israeli
>> military actions. They deliberately fire their rockets from behind
>> civilian shields in order to provoke Israel to respond and kill
>> civilians. They are then ready to bring out the cameras to record and
>> transmit every civilian death around the world.
>>
>> Well, not quite every civilian death.
>>
>> The day before Israel launched its air attack against Hamas, Hamas
>> fired a rocket in the general direction of Sderot. The rocket fell
>> short of its mark and landed within Gaza - killing two young
>> Palestinian girls.
>>
>> Hamas, which imposes total censorship in Gaza, refused to allow
>> cameras to record or transmit pictures of these dead Palestinian
>> girls, because they were not killed by Israeli rockets, but rather by
>> Palestinian rockets.
>>
>> The Hamas tactic is encouraged by selective condemnation of Israel.
>> Such condemnation creates a win-win situation for Hamas terrorism.
>> Every time they kill an Israeli civilian, they win; every time Israel
>> kills a Palestinian civilian, Hamas also wins.
>>
>> The only way to defeat this cynical tactic is for the international
>> community to place the blame squarely on Hamas for engaging in the
>> double war crime of targeting Israeli civilians and using Palestinian
>> civilians as human shields.
>>
>> The writer is a professor of law at Harvard. He is the author of many
>> books, including, most recently, The Case Against Israel's
>> Enemies.This article originally appeared as an entry on his blog
>> Double Standard Watch on JPost's BlogCentral
>> http://cgis.jpost.com/Blogs/
>>
>> This article can also be read at http://www.jpost.com
>> /servlet/Satellite?cid=1231950849634&pagename=JPArticle%2FShowFull
>> [ Back to the Article ]
>>
>> Copyright 1995- 2009 The Jerusalem Post - http://www.jpost.com/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "risky biz" <risky-biz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:pa5c46x3o9.ln2@recgroups.com...
>> > Just because it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck? One of
>> > Israel's
>> > specialties, since day one of it's founding, has been summary execution
>> > of
>> > civilians:
>> > http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/18/israel-war-crimes-gaza-conflict
>> >
>> > Don't expect very many of the American taxpayers financing this and
>> > whose
>> > Democratic and Republican parties enthusiastically supports it to be
>> > bothered by it.
>
> Jesus Christ Mel. You seem like a nice enough kid. But regurgitating
> propaganda from Alan Dershowitz isn't exactly a signal that you are
> operating with a fully functional brain.

I was wondering how ol' Chris Robin was going to refute Dershowitz's article
and defend Hamas. Well this response was lame even by his usual low
standards. Thing is Chris, in situations like this where your standard
anti-Israel, pro-Hamas bull shit just won't fly, you'd be better off not
responding at all. You know the old saying, better that Chris Robin be
thought a liberal fool, that posting something this lame and removing all
doubt.

Irish Mike




    
Date: 18 Jan 2009 19:27:11
From: MZB
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?
Geezzzzz....THIS LIBERAL has never supported Hamas or any of those shits

Mel
"Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net > wrote in message
news:l5Ocl.2354$%54.2150@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com...
>
> "ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> news:8ejc46xiva.ln2@recgroups.com...
>> On Jan 18 2009 1:31 PM, MZB wrote:
>>
>>> Analysis: Gaza's dead civilians are Hamas victims
>>>
>>> Jan. 14, 2009
>>> ALAN DERSHOWITZ , THE JERUSALEM POST
>>>
>>> What if Israel defended its citizens the way the British, the French,
>>> the Americans and the Russians did?
>>>
>>> When German rockets hit British cities during the World War II, Prime
>>> Minister Winston Churchill retaliated by bombing German cities,
>>> killing thousands of German civilians, and promised to continue until
>>> Germany's unconditional surrender.
>>>
>>> The United States did the same following the Japanese attack on Pearl
>>> Harbor. The French did much worse in Algeria and the Russians showed
>>> no concern for civilian life in Chechnya or Georgia.
>>>
>>> The IDF, on the other hand, has gone to extraordinary lengths to
>>> minimize civilian casualties, despite the reality that Hamas
>>> deliberately fires its rockets from densely populated civilian areas
>>> and hides its rocket launchers in schools, hospitals and mosques.
>>>
>>> Every Hamas rocket attack against Israeli civilians - and there have
>>> been more than 6,500 of them since Israel ended its occupation of Gaza
>>> - is an armed attack against Israel under Article 51 of the United
>>> Nations Charter, which authorizes member nations to respond militarily
>>> to armed attacks against it.
>>>
>>> Under international law, Israel is entitled to do whatever it takes
>>> militarily to stop Hamas rockets from targeting its civilians.
>>>
>>> Every Hamas rocket has the potential to kill dozens of Israeli
>>> civilians. Recently one hit a school just hours after the principal
>>> dismissed the students, fearing such an attack. If the rocket had hit
>>> and killed hundreds of schoolchildren, would those who protest Israeli
>>> actions acknowledge that Israel would then have the right to respond?
>>>
>>> In fact, under international law, Israel has the right to declare
>>> all-out war against the Hamas-controlled government of Gaza. In an
>>> all-out war, there would be no obligation to provide humanitarian
>>> assistance, electricity or any other services to an enemy who had
>>> started the war by an armed attack.
>>>
>>> No one condemned Great Britain and the United States for the
>>> collateral damage it caused while trying to defeat those who attacked
>>> it during the Second World War.
>>>
>>> Moreover, Germany did not deny the right of Great Britain or the
>>> United States to exist. The Hamas Charter not only denies Israel's
>>> right to exist, it calls for the complete destruction of the Jewish
>>> state. Surely Israel has as much right to defend its citizens as did
>>> the United States and Great Britain.
>>>
>>> No country needs allow terrorists to play Russian roulette with the
>>> lives of its children. Why, then, is Israel singled out for such
>>> ferocious criticism?
>>>
>>> Indeed, the only reason Israel has not won overwhelming military
>>> victories in Lebanon in 2006 and in Gaza now, is that Israel has
>>> decided to engage in only limited and proportional military actions
>>> designed simply to stop the rocket attacks. Yet it is being condemned
>>> both for not winning a decisive victory and for killing too many
>>> civilians.
>>>
>>> Hamas has learned how to manipulate the media's coverage of Israeli
>>> military actions. They deliberately fire their rockets from behind
>>> civilian shields in order to provoke Israel to respond and kill
>>> civilians. They are then ready to bring out the cameras to record and
>>> transmit every civilian death around the world.
>>>
>>> Well, not quite every civilian death.
>>>
>>> The day before Israel launched its air attack against Hamas, Hamas
>>> fired a rocket in the general direction of Sderot. The rocket fell
>>> short of its mark and landed within Gaza - killing two young
>>> Palestinian girls.
>>>
>>> Hamas, which imposes total censorship in Gaza, refused to allow
>>> cameras to record or transmit pictures of these dead Palestinian
>>> girls, because they were not killed by Israeli rockets, but rather by
>>> Palestinian rockets.
>>>
>>> The Hamas tactic is encouraged by selective condemnation of Israel.
>>> Such condemnation creates a win-win situation for Hamas terrorism.
>>> Every time they kill an Israeli civilian, they win; every time Israel
>>> kills a Palestinian civilian, Hamas also wins.
>>>
>>> The only way to defeat this cynical tactic is for the international
>>> community to place the blame squarely on Hamas for engaging in the
>>> double war crime of targeting Israeli civilians and using Palestinian
>>> civilians as human shields.
>>>
>>> The writer is a professor of law at Harvard. He is the author of many
>>> books, including, most recently, The Case Against Israel's
>>> Enemies.This article originally appeared as an entry on his blog
>>> Double Standard Watch on JPost's BlogCentral
>>> http://cgis.jpost.com/Blogs/
>>>
>>> This article can also be read at http://www.jpost.com
>>> /servlet/Satellite?cid=1231950849634&pagename=JPArticle%2FShowFull
>>> [ Back to the Article ]
>>>
>>> Copyright 1995- 2009 The Jerusalem Post - http://www.jpost.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "risky biz" <risky-biz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>> news:pa5c46x3o9.ln2@recgroups.com...
>>> > Just because it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck? One of
>>> > Israel's
>>> > specialties, since day one of it's founding, has been summary
>>> > execution of
>>> > civilians:
>>> > http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/18/israel-war-crimes-gaza-conflict
>>> >
>>> > Don't expect very many of the American taxpayers financing this and
>>> > whose
>>> > Democratic and Republican parties enthusiastically supports it to be
>>> > bothered by it.
>>
>> Jesus Christ Mel. You seem like a nice enough kid. But regurgitating
>> propaganda from Alan Dershowitz isn't exactly a signal that you are
>> operating with a fully functional brain.
>
> I was wondering how ol' Chris Robin was going to refute Dershowitz's
> article and defend Hamas. Well this response was lame even by his usual
> low standards. Thing is Chris, in situations like this where your
> standard anti-Israel, pro-Hamas bull shit just won't fly, you'd be better
> off not responding at all. You know the old saying, better that Chris
> Robin be thought a liberal fool, that posting something this lame and
> removing all doubt.
>
> Irish Mike
>




   
Date: 18 Jan 2009 17:15:40
From: MZB
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?
Thanks for calling me a kid.

Mel
"ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
news:8ejc46xiva.ln2@recgroups.com...
> On Jan 18 2009 1:31 PM, MZB wrote:
>
>> Analysis: Gaza's dead civilians are Hamas victims
>>
>> Jan. 14, 2009
>> ALAN DERSHOWITZ , THE JERUSALEM POST
>>
>> What if Israel defended its citizens the way the British, the French,
>> the Americans and the Russians did?
>>
>> When German rockets hit British cities during the World War II, Prime
>> Minister Winston Churchill retaliated by bombing German cities,
>> killing thousands of German civilians, and promised to continue until
>> Germany's unconditional surrender.
>>
>> The United States did the same following the Japanese attack on Pearl
>> Harbor. The French did much worse in Algeria and the Russians showed
>> no concern for civilian life in Chechnya or Georgia.
>>
>> The IDF, on the other hand, has gone to extraordinary lengths to
>> minimize civilian casualties, despite the reality that Hamas
>> deliberately fires its rockets from densely populated civilian areas
>> and hides its rocket launchers in schools, hospitals and mosques.
>>
>> Every Hamas rocket attack against Israeli civilians - and there have
>> been more than 6,500 of them since Israel ended its occupation of Gaza
>> - is an armed attack against Israel under Article 51 of the United
>> Nations Charter, which authorizes member nations to respond militarily
>> to armed attacks against it.
>>
>> Under international law, Israel is entitled to do whatever it takes
>> militarily to stop Hamas rockets from targeting its civilians.
>>
>> Every Hamas rocket has the potential to kill dozens of Israeli
>> civilians. Recently one hit a school just hours after the principal
>> dismissed the students, fearing such an attack. If the rocket had hit
>> and killed hundreds of schoolchildren, would those who protest Israeli
>> actions acknowledge that Israel would then have the right to respond?
>>
>> In fact, under international law, Israel has the right to declare
>> all-out war against the Hamas-controlled government of Gaza. In an
>> all-out war, there would be no obligation to provide humanitarian
>> assistance, electricity or any other services to an enemy who had
>> started the war by an armed attack.
>>
>> No one condemned Great Britain and the United States for the
>> collateral damage it caused while trying to defeat those who attacked
>> it during the Second World War.
>>
>> Moreover, Germany did not deny the right of Great Britain or the
>> United States to exist. The Hamas Charter not only denies Israel's
>> right to exist, it calls for the complete destruction of the Jewish
>> state. Surely Israel has as much right to defend its citizens as did
>> the United States and Great Britain.
>>
>> No country needs allow terrorists to play Russian roulette with the
>> lives of its children. Why, then, is Israel singled out for such
>> ferocious criticism?
>>
>> Indeed, the only reason Israel has not won overwhelming military
>> victories in Lebanon in 2006 and in Gaza now, is that Israel has
>> decided to engage in only limited and proportional military actions
>> designed simply to stop the rocket attacks. Yet it is being condemned
>> both for not winning a decisive victory and for killing too many
>> civilians.
>>
>> Hamas has learned how to manipulate the media's coverage of Israeli
>> military actions. They deliberately fire their rockets from behind
>> civilian shields in order to provoke Israel to respond and kill
>> civilians. They are then ready to bring out the cameras to record and
>> transmit every civilian death around the world.
>>
>> Well, not quite every civilian death.
>>
>> The day before Israel launched its air attack against Hamas, Hamas
>> fired a rocket in the general direction of Sderot. The rocket fell
>> short of its mark and landed within Gaza - killing two young
>> Palestinian girls.
>>
>> Hamas, which imposes total censorship in Gaza, refused to allow
>> cameras to record or transmit pictures of these dead Palestinian
>> girls, because they were not killed by Israeli rockets, but rather by
>> Palestinian rockets.
>>
>> The Hamas tactic is encouraged by selective condemnation of Israel.
>> Such condemnation creates a win-win situation for Hamas terrorism.
>> Every time they kill an Israeli civilian, they win; every time Israel
>> kills a Palestinian civilian, Hamas also wins.
>>
>> The only way to defeat this cynical tactic is for the international
>> community to place the blame squarely on Hamas for engaging in the
>> double war crime of targeting Israeli civilians and using Palestinian
>> civilians as human shields.
>>
>> The writer is a professor of law at Harvard. He is the author of many
>> books, including, most recently, The Case Against Israel's
>> Enemies.This article originally appeared as an entry on his blog
>> Double Standard Watch on JPost's BlogCentral
>> http://cgis.jpost.com/Blogs/
>>
>> This article can also be read at http://www.jpost.com
>> /servlet/Satellite?cid=1231950849634&pagename=JPArticle%2FShowFull
>> [ Back to the Article ]
>>
>> Copyright 1995- 2009 The Jerusalem Post - http://www.jpost.com/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "risky biz" <risky-biz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:pa5c46x3o9.ln2@recgroups.com...
>> > Just because it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck? One of
>> > Israel's
>> > specialties, since day one of it's founding, has been summary execution
>> > of
>> > civilians:
>> > http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/18/israel-war-crimes-gaza-conflict
>> >
>> > Don't expect very many of the American taxpayers financing this and
>> > whose
>> > Democratic and Republican parties enthusiastically supports it to be
>> > bothered by it.
>
> Jesus Christ Mel. You seem like a nice enough kid. But regurgitating
> propaganda from Alan Dershowitz isn't exactly a signal that you are
> operating with a fully functional brain.
>
> _____________________________________________________________________
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Date: 18 Jan 2009 17:59:26
From: risky biz
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?
On Jan 18 2009 3:15 PM, MZB wrote:

> Thanks for calling me a kid.
>
> Mel

Yeah, a "liberal" kid, who loves Israeli nazis just like the rest of his
Democratic Party.


> "ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> news:8ejc46xiva.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > On Jan 18 2009 1:31 PM, MZB wrote:
> >
> >> Analysis: Gaza's dead civilians are Hamas victims
> >>
> >> Jan. 14, 2009
> >> ALAN DERSHOWITZ , THE JERUSALEM POST
> >>
> >> What if Israel defended its citizens the way the British, the French,
> >> the Americans and the Russians did?
> >>
> >> When German rockets hit British cities during the World War II, Prime
> >> Minister Winston Churchill retaliated by bombing German cities,
> >> killing thousands of German civilians, and promised to continue until
> >> Germany's unconditional surrender.
> >>
> >> The United States did the same following the Japanese attack on Pearl
> >> Harbor. The French did much worse in Algeria and the Russians showed
> >> no concern for civilian life in Chechnya or Georgia.
> >>
> >> The IDF, on the other hand, has gone to extraordinary lengths to
> >> minimize civilian casualties, despite the reality that Hamas
> >> deliberately fires its rockets from densely populated civilian areas
> >> and hides its rocket launchers in schools, hospitals and mosques.
> >>
> >> Every Hamas rocket attack against Israeli civilians - and there have
> >> been more than 6,500 of them since Israel ended its occupation of Gaza
> >> - is an armed attack against Israel under Article 51 of the United
> >> Nations Charter, which authorizes member nations to respond militarily
> >> to armed attacks against it.
> >>
> >> Under international law, Israel is entitled to do whatever it takes
> >> militarily to stop Hamas rockets from targeting its civilians.
> >>
> >> Every Hamas rocket has the potential to kill dozens of Israeli
> >> civilians. Recently one hit a school just hours after the principal
> >> dismissed the students, fearing such an attack. If the rocket had hit
> >> and killed hundreds of schoolchildren, would those who protest Israeli
> >> actions acknowledge that Israel would then have the right to respond?
> >>
> >> In fact, under international law, Israel has the right to declare
> >> all-out war against the Hamas-controlled government of Gaza. In an
> >> all-out war, there would be no obligation to provide humanitarian
> >> assistance, electricity or any other services to an enemy who had
> >> started the war by an armed attack.
> >>
> >> No one condemned Great Britain and the United States for the
> >> collateral damage it caused while trying to defeat those who attacked
> >> it during the Second World War.
> >>
> >> Moreover, Germany did not deny the right of Great Britain or the
> >> United States to exist. The Hamas Charter not only denies Israel's
> >> right to exist, it calls for the complete destruction of the Jewish
> >> state. Surely Israel has as much right to defend its citizens as did
> >> the United States and Great Britain.
> >>
> >> No country needs allow terrorists to play Russian roulette with the
> >> lives of its children. Why, then, is Israel singled out for such
> >> ferocious criticism?
> >>
> >> Indeed, the only reason Israel has not won overwhelming military
> >> victories in Lebanon in 2006 and in Gaza now, is that Israel has
> >> decided to engage in only limited and proportional military actions
> >> designed simply to stop the rocket attacks. Yet it is being condemned
> >> both for not winning a decisive victory and for killing too many
> >> civilians.
> >>
> >> Hamas has learned how to manipulate the media's coverage of Israeli
> >> military actions. They deliberately fire their rockets from behind
> >> civilian shields in order to provoke Israel to respond and kill
> >> civilians. They are then ready to bring out the cameras to record and
> >> transmit every civilian death around the world.
> >>
> >> Well, not quite every civilian death.
> >>
> >> The day before Israel launched its air attack against Hamas, Hamas
> >> fired a rocket in the general direction of Sderot. The rocket fell
> >> short of its mark and landed within Gaza - killing two young
> >> Palestinian girls.
> >>
> >> Hamas, which imposes total censorship in Gaza, refused to allow
> >> cameras to record or transmit pictures of these dead Palestinian
> >> girls, because they were not killed by Israeli rockets, but rather by
> >> Palestinian rockets.
> >>
> >> The Hamas tactic is encouraged by selective condemnation of Israel.
> >> Such condemnation creates a win-win situation for Hamas terrorism.
> >> Every time they kill an Israeli civilian, they win; every time Israel
> >> kills a Palestinian civilian, Hamas also wins.
> >>
> >> The only way to defeat this cynical tactic is for the international
> >> community to place the blame squarely on Hamas for engaging in the
> >> double war crime of targeting Israeli civilians and using Palestinian
> >> civilians as human shields.
> >>
> >> The writer is a professor of law at Harvard. He is the author of many
> >> books, including, most recently, The Case Against Israel's
> >> Enemies.This article originally appeared as an entry on his blog
> >> Double Standard Watch on JPost's BlogCentral
> >> http://cgis.jpost.com/Blogs/
> >>
> >> This article can also be read at http://www.jpost.com
> >> /servlet/Satellite?cid=1231950849634&pagename=JPArticle%2FShowFull
> >> [ Back to the Article ]
> >>
> >> Copyright 1995- 2009 The Jerusalem Post - http://www.jpost.com/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "risky biz" <risky-biz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> >> news:pa5c46x3o9.ln2@recgroups.com...
> >> > Just because it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck? One of
> >> > Israel's
> >> > specialties, since day one of it's founding, has been summary execution
> >> > of
> >> > civilians:
> >> >
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/18/israel-war-crimes-gaza-conflict
> >> >
> >> > Don't expect very many of the American taxpayers financing this and
> >> > whose
> >> > Democratic and Republican parties enthusiastically supports it to be
> >> > bothered by it.
> >
> > Jesus Christ Mel. You seem like a nice enough kid. But regurgitating
> > propaganda from Alan Dershowitz isn't exactly a signal that you are
> > operating with a fully functional brain.
> >

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Date: 18 Jan 2009 10:48:43
From: risky biz
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?
On Jan 18 2009 11:31 AM, MZB wrote:

> Analysis: Gaza's dead civilians are Hamas victims
>
> Jan. 14, 2009
> ALAN DERSHOWITZ , THE JERUSALEM POST
>
> What if Israel defended its citizens the way the British, the French,
> the Americans and the Russians did?
>
> When German rockets hit British cities during the World War II, Prime
> Minister Winston Churchill retaliated by bombing German cities,
> killing thousands of German civilians, and promised to continue until
> Germany's unconditional surrender.

Hey, Mel, was Great Britain employing a famine siege against Germany
before Germany attacked them as Israel has been doing to the people of
Gaza for eighteen months?

You're a fucking moral degenerate.

>
> The United States did the same following the Japanese attack on Pearl
> Harbor. The French did much worse in Algeria and the Russians showed
> no concern for civilian life in Chechnya or Georgia.
>
> The IDF, on the other hand, has gone to extraordinary lengths to
> minimize civilian casualties, despite the reality that Hamas
> deliberately fires its rockets from densely populated civilian areas
> and hides its rocket launchers in schools, hospitals and mosques.
>
> Every Hamas rocket attack against Israeli civilians - and there have
> been more than 6,500 of them since Israel ended its occupation of Gaza
> - is an armed attack against Israel under Article 51 of the United
> Nations Charter, which authorizes member nations to respond militarily
> to armed attacks against it.
>
> Under international law, Israel is entitled to do whatever it takes
> militarily to stop Hamas rockets from targeting its civilians.
>
> Every Hamas rocket has the potential to kill dozens of Israeli
> civilians. Recently one hit a school just hours after the principal
> dismissed the students, fearing such an attack. If the rocket had hit
> and killed hundreds of schoolchildren, would those who protest Israeli
> actions acknowledge that Israel would then have the right to respond?
>
> In fact, under international law, Israel has the right to declare
> all-out war against the Hamas-controlled government of Gaza. In an
> all-out war, there would be no obligation to provide humanitarian
> assistance, electricity or any other services to an enemy who had
> started the war by an armed attack.
>
> No one condemned Great Britain and the United States for the
> collateral damage it caused while trying to defeat those who attacked
> it during the Second World War.
>
> Moreover, Germany did not deny the right of Great Britain or the
> United States to exist. The Hamas Charter not only denies Israel's
> right to exist, it calls for the complete destruction of the Jewish
> state. Surely Israel has as much right to defend its citizens as did
> the United States and Great Britain.
>
> No country needs allow terrorists to play Russian roulette with the
> lives of its children. Why, then, is Israel singled out for such
> ferocious criticism?
>
> Indeed, the only reason Israel has not won overwhelming military
> victories in Lebanon in 2006 and in Gaza now, is that Israel has
> decided to engage in only limited and proportional military actions
> designed simply to stop the rocket attacks. Yet it is being condemned
> both for not winning a decisive victory and for killing too many
> civilians.
>
> Hamas has learned how to manipulate the media's coverage of Israeli
> military actions. They deliberately fire their rockets from behind
> civilian shields in order to provoke Israel to respond and kill
> civilians. They are then ready to bring out the cameras to record and
> transmit every civilian death around the world.
>
> Well, not quite every civilian death.
>
> The day before Israel launched its air attack against Hamas, Hamas
> fired a rocket in the general direction of Sderot. The rocket fell
> short of its mark and landed within Gaza - killing two young
> Palestinian girls.
>
> Hamas, which imposes total censorship in Gaza, refused to allow
> cameras to record or transmit pictures of these dead Palestinian
> girls, because they were not killed by Israeli rockets, but rather by
> Palestinian rockets.
>
> The Hamas tactic is encouraged by selective condemnation of Israel.
> Such condemnation creates a win-win situation for Hamas terrorism.
> Every time they kill an Israeli civilian, they win; every time Israel
> kills a Palestinian civilian, Hamas also wins.
>
> The only way to defeat this cynical tactic is for the international
> community to place the blame squarely on Hamas for engaging in the
> double war crime of targeting Israeli civilians and using Palestinian
> civilians as human shields.
>
> The writer is a professor of law at Harvard. He is the author of many
> books, including, most recently, The Case Against Israel's
> Enemies.This article originally appeared as an entry on his blog
> Double Standard Watch on JPost's BlogCentral
> http://cgis.jpost.com/Blogs/
>
> This article can also be read at http://www.jpost.com
> /servlet/Satellite?cid=1231950849634&pagename=JPArticle%2FShowFull
> [ Back to the Article ]
>
> Copyright 1995- 2009 The Jerusalem Post - http://www.jpost.com/
>
>
>
>
> "risky biz" <risky-biz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:pa5c46x3o9.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > Just because it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck? One of Israel's
> > specialties, since day one of it's founding, has been summary execution of
> > civilians:
> > http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/18/israel-war-crimes-gaza-conflict
> >
> > Don't expect very many of the American taxpayers financing this and whose
> > Democratic and Republican parties enthusiastically supports it to be
> > bothered by it.
> >

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Date: 18 Jan 2009 12:31:31
From: MZB
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?
Yeah. Poor Hamas. They have to wear those funny stars and be housed in
concentration camps and be marched to the crematoriums, millions of 'em.

You are an idiot

Mel
"risky biz" <risky-biz@sbcglobal.net > wrote in message
news:pa5c46x3o9.ln2@recgroups.com...
> Just because it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck? One of Israel's
> specialties, since day one of it's founding, has been summary execution of
> civilians:
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/18/israel-war-crimes-gaza-conflict
>
> Don't expect very many of the American taxpayers financing this and whose
> Democratic and Republican parties enthusiastically supports it to be
> bothered by it.
>
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>




  
Date: 18 Jan 2009 13:28:32
From: ChrisRobin
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?
On Jan 18 2009 12:31 PM, MZB wrote:

> Yeah. Poor Hamas. They have to wear those funny stars and be housed in
> concentration camps and be marched to the crematoriums, millions of 'em.
>
> You are an idiot

The Palestinians are a captive population. What part of that do you not
understand?

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Date: 18 Jan 2009 17:40:34
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?

"ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
news:0hjc46xsva.ln2@recgroups.com...
> On Jan 18 2009 12:31 PM, MZB wrote:
>
>> Yeah. Poor Hamas. They have to wear those funny stars and be housed in
>> concentration camps and be marched to the crematoriums, millions of 'em.
>>
>> You are an idiot
>
> The Palestinians are a captive population. What part of that do you not
> understand?

Well bucko, Hamas smuggles in weapons and ammunition from Eqypt every day.
Maybe you should suggest that they pick up some milk and bread for the kids
on their next run. Assuming they can spare the kids from their human shield
duties for a couple of hours. Fact is, Israel pulled out of Gaza and gave
it to the Palestineans. They had a choice - live in peace or fire thousands
of rockets in to Irarel. They chose the rockets.
The Palestineans can have peace in Gaza any time they want it. All they
have to do is formally recognize Israel's right to exist. Withdraw their vow
to slaughter every Israeli man, woman and child. And stop murdering Israeli
citizens.
The truth is, Hamas is a fanatic terrorist organization and they need a war
with Israel to justify their existence and to maintain their power. There
will be peace when the Palestinean people decide they want it more than they
want to murder Jews.

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Date: 18 Jan 2009 17:12:43
From: MZB
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?
What part of Israelis being likened to Nazis do you understand?

Mel
"ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
news:0hjc46xsva.ln2@recgroups.com...
> On Jan 18 2009 12:31 PM, MZB wrote:
>
>> Yeah. Poor Hamas. They have to wear those funny stars and be housed in
>> concentration camps and be marched to the crematoriums, millions of 'em.
>>
>> You are an idiot
>
> The Palestinians are a captive population. What part of that do you not
> understand?
>
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Date: 18 Jan 2009 18:01:39
From: ChrisRobin
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?
On Jan 18 2009 5:12 PM, MZB wrote:

> What part of Israelis being likened to Nazis do you understand?

The part where they condemn a race they consider inferior to a ghetto,
starve them and deny them the most basic of daily necessities, and
indiscriminately bomb their homes, schools, and hospitals.

Otherwise, I think it's a completely inaccurate comparison.

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Date: 18 Jan 2009 22:24:25
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?

"ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
news:3h3d46x72e.ln2@recgroups.com...
> On Jan 18 2009 5:12 PM, MZB wrote:
>
>> What part of Israelis being likened to Nazis do you understand?
>
> The part where they condemn a race they consider inferior to a ghetto,
> starve them and deny them the most basic of daily necessities, and
> indiscriminately bomb their homes, schools, and hospitals.
>
> Otherwise, I think it's a completely inaccurate comparison.

Nevershop was right. You are insane.

Irish Mike





    
Date: 18 Jan 2009 17:53:26
From: risky biz
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?
On Jan 18 2009 3:12 PM, MZB wrote:

> What part of Israelis being likened to Nazis do you understand?
>
> Mel

The part where they bear a very strong resemblance to the German nazis of
the thirtes and forties. Thanks for asking, Mel. Again.


> "ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> news:0hjc46xsva.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > On Jan 18 2009 12:31 PM, MZB wrote:
> >
> >> Yeah. Poor Hamas. They have to wear those funny stars and be housed in
> >> concentration camps and be marched to the crematoriums, millions of 'em.
> >>
> >> You are an idiot
> >
> > The Palestinians are a captive population. What part of that do you not
> > understand?
> >

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Date: 18 Jan 2009 15:38:47
From: James L. Hankins
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?

"ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
news:0hjc46xsva.ln2@recgroups.com...
> On Jan 18 2009 12:31 PM, MZB wrote:
>
>> Yeah. Poor Hamas. They have to wear those funny stars and be housed in
>> concentration camps and be marched to the crematoriums, millions of 'em.
>>
>> You are an idiot
>
> The Palestinians are a captive population. What part of that do you not
> understand?


The part of what you mean exactly by "captive population."




    
Date: 18 Jan 2009 14:02:05
From: ChrisRobin
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?
On Jan 18 2009 4:38 PM, James L. Hankins wrote:

> "ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> news:0hjc46xsva.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > On Jan 18 2009 12:31 PM, MZB wrote:
> >
> >> Yeah. Poor Hamas. They have to wear those funny stars and be housed in
> >> concentration camps and be marched to the crematoriums, millions of 'em.
> >>
> >> You are an idiot
> >
> > The Palestinians are a captive population. What part of that do you not
> > understand?
>
>
> The part of what you mean exactly by "captive population."

"The Israeli blockade of Gaza has led to a steady rise in chronic
malnutrition among the 1.5 million people living in the strip, according
to a leaked report from the Red Cross.

"It chronicles the 'devastating' effect of the siege that Israel imposed
after Hamas seized control in June 2007 and notes that the dramatic fall
in living standards has triggered a shift in diet that will damage the
long-term health of those living in Gaza and has led to alarming
deficiencies in iron, vitamin A and vitamin D.

"The 46-page report from the International Committee of the Red Cross
seen by The Independent is the most authoritative yet on the impact that
Israel's closure of crossings to commercial goods has had on Gazan
families and their diets.

"The report says the heavy restrictions on all major sectors of Gaza's
economy, compounded by a cost of living increase of at least 40 per cent,
is causing a 'progressive deterioration in food security for up to 70 per
cent of Gaza's population'. That in turn is forcing people to cut
household expenditures down to 'survival levels'.

"'Chronic malnutrition is on a steadily rising trend and micronutrient
deficiencies are of great concern,'" it said.

"Since last year, the report found, there had been a switch to 'low
cost/high energy' cereals, sugar and oil, away from higher-cost animal
products and fresh fruit and vegetables. Such a shift 'increases exposure
to micronutrient deficiencies which in turn will affect their health and
wellbeing in the long term.'"

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/chronic-malnutrition-in-gaza-blamed-on-israel-1019521.html

That part.

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Date: 18 Jan 2009 18:29:57
From: Pepe Papon
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 14:02:05 -0800, "ChrisRobin"
<a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid > wrote:

>
>"The Israeli blockade of Gaza has led to a steady rise in chronic
>malnutrition among the 1.5 million people living in the strip, according
>to a leaked report from the Red Cross.

What about that other country along Gaza's Southwest border?


      
Date: 19 Jan 2009 10:50:03
From: risky biz
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?
On Jan 18 2009 7:29 PM, Pepe Papon wrote:

> On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 14:02:05 -0800, "ChrisRobin"
> <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>
> >
> >"The Israeli blockade of Gaza has led to a steady rise in chronic
> >malnutrition among the 1.5 million people living in the strip, according
> >to a leaked report from the Red Cross.
>
> What about that other country along Gaza's Southwest border?

You mean the Egyptian government which is under fire for not sealing the
border tight enough to starve the Palestinians into submission? The one
that Israel bribes with billions in American taxes? Yeah, WTF aren't they
doing a better job of starving the children, right "Pepe"?

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Date: 19 Jan 2009 21:13:22
From: Pepe Papon
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?
On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:50:03 -0800, "risky biz"
<risky-biz@sbcglobal.net > wrote:

>On Jan 18 2009 7:29 PM, Pepe Papon wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 14:02:05 -0800, "ChrisRobin"
>> <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"The Israeli blockade of Gaza has led to a steady rise in chronic
>> >malnutrition among the 1.5 million people living in the strip, according
>> >to a leaked report from the Red Cross.
>>
>> What about that other country along Gaza's Southwest border?
>
>You mean the Egyptian government which is under fire for not sealing the
>border tight enough to starve the Palestinians into submission? The one
>that Israel bribes with billions in American taxes? Yeah, WTF aren't they
>doing a better job of starving the children, right "Pepe"?

So, according to you, it's Israel's fault that Egypt chooses to sell
out. Why not? You blame Israel for everything else.


        
Date: 19 Jan 2009 23:05:12
From: risky biz
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?
On Jan 19 2009 10:13 PM, Pepe Papon wrote:

> On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:50:03 -0800, "risky biz"
> <risky-biz@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> >On Jan 18 2009 7:29 PM, Pepe Papon wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 14:02:05 -0800, "ChrisRobin"
> >> <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"The Israeli blockade of Gaza has led to a steady rise in chronic
> >> >malnutrition among the 1.5 million people living in the strip, according
> >> >to a leaked report from the Red Cross.
> >>
> >> What about that other country along Gaza's Southwest border?
> >
> >You mean the Egyptian government which is under fire for not sealing the
> >border tight enough to starve the Palestinians into submission? The one
> >that Israel bribes with billions in American taxes? Yeah, WTF aren't they
> >doing a better job of starving the children, right "Pepe"?
>
> So, according to you, it's Israel's fault that Egypt chooses to sell
> out. Why not? You blame Israel for everything else.

No, dimwit, it's our fault because of blockheads like you who insist that
our government bribe the government of Egypt with billions of our tax
dollars for the benefit of Israel.

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Date: 20 Jan 2009 02:35:00
From: Pepe Papon
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?
On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 23:05:12 -0800, "risky biz"
<risky-biz@sbcglobal.net > wrote:

>On Jan 19 2009 10:13 PM, Pepe Papon wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:50:03 -0800, "risky biz"
>> <risky-biz@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>> >On Jan 18 2009 7:29 PM, Pepe Papon wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 14:02:05 -0800, "ChrisRobin"
>> >> <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >"The Israeli blockade of Gaza has led to a steady rise in chronic
>> >> >malnutrition among the 1.5 million people living in the strip, according
>> >> >to a leaked report from the Red Cross.
>> >>
>> >> What about that other country along Gaza's Southwest border?
>> >
>> >You mean the Egyptian government which is under fire for not sealing the
>> >border tight enough to starve the Palestinians into submission? The one
>> >that Israel bribes with billions in American taxes? Yeah, WTF aren't they
>> >doing a better job of starving the children, right "Pepe"?
>>
>> So, according to you, it's Israel's fault that Egypt chooses to sell
>> out. Why not? You blame Israel for everything else.
>
>No, dimwit, it's our fault because of blockheads like you who insist that
>our government bribe the government of Egypt with billions of our tax
>dollars for the benefit of Israel.

Oh, so it's our fault that Egypt chooses to sell out. Thanks for
clearing that up.


          
Date: 20 Jan 2009 19:34:41
From: risky biz
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?
On Jan 20 2009 3:35 AM, Pepe Papon wrote:

> On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 23:05:12 -0800, "risky biz"
> <risky-biz@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> >On Jan 19 2009 10:13 PM, Pepe Papon wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:50:03 -0800, "risky biz"
> >> <risky-biz@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Jan 18 2009 7:29 PM, Pepe Papon wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 14:02:05 -0800, "ChrisRobin"
> >> >> <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"The Israeli blockade of Gaza has led to a steady rise in chronic
> >> >> >malnutrition among the 1.5 million people living in the strip,
according
> >> >> >to a leaked report from the Red Cross.
> >> >>
> >> >> What about that other country along Gaza's Southwest border?
> >> >
> >> >You mean the Egyptian government which is under fire for not sealing the
> >> >border tight enough to starve the Palestinians into submission? The one
> >> >that Israel bribes with billions in American taxes? Yeah, WTF aren't they
> >> >doing a better job of starving the children, right "Pepe"?
> >>
> >> So, according to you, it's Israel's fault that Egypt chooses to sell
> >> out. Why not? You blame Israel for everything else.
> >
> >No, dimwit, it's our fault because of blockheads like you who insist that
> >our government bribe the government of Egypt with billions of our tax
> >dollars for the benefit of Israel.
>
> Oh, so it's our fault that Egypt chooses to sell out. Thanks for
> clearing that up.

Hey, Pepe, why don't you go pep up your goat?

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Date: 20 Jan 2009 21:57:55
From: Pepe Papon
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?
On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 19:34:41 -0800, "risky biz"
<risky-biz@sbcglobal.net > wrote:

>On Jan 20 2009 3:35 AM, Pepe Papon wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 23:05:12 -0800, "risky biz"
>> <risky-biz@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>> >On Jan 19 2009 10:13 PM, Pepe Papon wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:50:03 -0800, "risky biz"
>> >> <risky-biz@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Jan 18 2009 7:29 PM, Pepe Papon wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 14:02:05 -0800, "ChrisRobin"
>> >> >> <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >"The Israeli blockade of Gaza has led to a steady rise in chronic
>> >> >> >malnutrition among the 1.5 million people living in the strip,
>according
>> >> >> >to a leaked report from the Red Cross.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> What about that other country along Gaza's Southwest border?
>> >> >
>> >> >You mean the Egyptian government which is under fire for not sealing the
>> >> >border tight enough to starve the Palestinians into submission? The one
>> >> >that Israel bribes with billions in American taxes? Yeah, WTF aren't they
>> >> >doing a better job of starving the children, right "Pepe"?
>> >>
>> >> So, according to you, it's Israel's fault that Egypt chooses to sell
>> >> out. Why not? You blame Israel for everything else.
>> >
>> >No, dimwit, it's our fault because of blockheads like you who insist that
>> >our government bribe the government of Egypt with billions of our tax
>> >dollars for the benefit of Israel.
>>
>> Oh, so it's our fault that Egypt chooses to sell out. Thanks for
>> clearing that up.
>
>Hey, Pepe, why don't you go pep up your goat?

Thank you for conceding defeat. It's a good idea for you to quit
while you're behind.


     
Date: 18 Jan 2009 17:57:36
From: risky biz
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?
On Jan 18 2009 3:02 PM, ChrisRobin wrote:

> On Jan 18 2009 4:38 PM, James L. Hankins wrote:
>
> > "ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> > news:0hjc46xsva.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > > On Jan 18 2009 12:31 PM, MZB wrote:
> > >
> > >> Yeah. Poor Hamas. They have to wear those funny stars and be housed in
> > >> concentration camps and be marched to the crematoriums, millions of 'em.
> > >>
> > >> You are an idiot
> > >
> > > The Palestinians are a captive population. What part of that do you not
> > > understand?
> >
> >
> > The part of what you mean exactly by "captive population."
>
> "The Israeli blockade of Gaza has led to a steady rise in chronic
> malnutrition among the 1.5 million people living in the strip, according
> to a leaked report from the Red Cross.
>
> "It chronicles the 'devastating' effect of the siege that Israel imposed
> after Hamas seized control in June 2007 and notes that the dramatic fall
> in living standards has triggered a shift in diet that will damage the
> long-term health of those living in Gaza and has led to alarming
> deficiencies in iron, vitamin A and vitamin D.
>
> "The 46-page report from the International Committee of the Red Cross
> seen by The Independent is the most authoritative yet on the impact that
> Israel's closure of crossings to commercial goods has had on Gazan
> families and their diets.
>
> "The report says the heavy restrictions on all major sectors of Gaza's
> economy, compounded by a cost of living increase of at least 40 per cent,
> is causing a 'progressive deterioration in food security for up to 70 per
> cent of Gaza's population'. That in turn is forcing people to cut
> household expenditures down to 'survival levels'.
>
> "'Chronic malnutrition is on a steadily rising trend and micronutrient
> deficiencies are of great concern,'" it said.
>
> "Since last year, the report found, there had been a switch to 'low
> cost/high energy' cereals, sugar and oil, away from higher-cost animal
> products and fresh fruit and vegetables. Such a shift 'increases exposure
> to micronutrient deficiencies which in turn will affect their health and
> wellbeing in the long term.'"
>
>
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/chronic-malnutrition-in-gaza-blamed-on-israel-1019521.html
>
> That part.

For MZB/Mel, Pepe Papon, Raider Nation, pokertoker/neverchop, and Hankins
those are the parts that don't count and, by the way, it's "shameful" to
even mention those parts.

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Date: 18 Jan 2009 22:02:19
From: James L. Hankins
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?

"risky biz" <risky-biz@sbcglobal.net > wrote in message
news:g93d46x3rd.ln2@recgroups.com...
> On Jan 18 2009 3:02 PM, ChrisRobin wrote:
>
>> On Jan 18 2009 4:38 PM, James L. Hankins wrote:
>>
>> > "ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
>> > news:0hjc46xsva.ln2@recgroups.com...
>> > > On Jan 18 2009 12:31 PM, MZB wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Yeah. Poor Hamas. They have to wear those funny stars and be housed
>> > >> in
>> > >> concentration camps and be marched to the crematoriums, millions of
>> > >> 'em.
>> > >>
>> > >> You are an idiot
>> > >
>> > > The Palestinians are a captive population. What part of that do you
>> > > not
>> > > understand?
>> >
>> >
>> > The part of what you mean exactly by "captive population."
>>
>> "The Israeli blockade of Gaza has led to a steady rise in chronic
>> malnutrition among the 1.5 million people living in the strip, according
>> to a leaked report from the Red Cross.
>>
>> "It chronicles the 'devastating' effect of the siege that Israel imposed
>> after Hamas seized control in June 2007 and notes that the dramatic fall
>> in living standards has triggered a shift in diet that will damage the
>> long-term health of those living in Gaza and has led to alarming
>> deficiencies in iron, vitamin A and vitamin D.
>>
>> "The 46-page report from the International Committee of the Red Cross -
>> seen by The Independent - is the most authoritative yet on the impact
>> that
>> Israel's closure of crossings to commercial goods has had on Gazan
>> families and their diets.
>>
>> "The report says the heavy restrictions on all major sectors of Gaza's
>> economy, compounded by a cost of living increase of at least 40 per cent,
>> is causing a 'progressive deterioration in food security for up to 70 per
>> cent of Gaza's population'. That in turn is forcing people to cut
>> household expenditures down to 'survival levels'.
>>
>> "'Chronic malnutrition is on a steadily rising trend and micronutrient
>> deficiencies are of great concern,'" it said.
>>
>> "Since last year, the report found, there had been a switch to 'low
>> cost/high energy' cereals, sugar and oil, away from higher-cost animal
>> products and fresh fruit and vegetables. Such a shift 'increases exposure
>> to micronutrient deficiencies which in turn will affect their health and
>> wellbeing in the long term.'"
>>
>>
> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/chronic-malnutrition-in-gaza-blamed-on-israel-1019521.html
>>
>> That part.
>
> For MZB/Mel, Pepe Papon, Raider Nation, pokertoker/neverchop, and Hankins
> those are the parts that don't count and, by the way, it's "shameful" to
> even mention those parts.



Of course it's not shameful. But Israel isn't in charge of providing for
the welfare of Palestinians, that task is up to Hamas, you know, the folks
in charge. What steps has Hamas taken to better it's people?

The piece above probably reflects accurate data, but an inaccurate
description of the cause and effect. We heard the same horseshit during
Iraq, i.e., the sanctions were only hurting the children and other weak
citizens. If you want to view it as the U.N. sanctions were the direct
cause of the misery of citizens then you can do that. But it's dishonest to
not attribute some of the causation to the people who have direct control
over the situation.

In addition, you and Chris Robin really stick your heads in the sand if you
think Hamas can't get anything into the region. They choose to acquire
armaments and continue warfare. They've pissed away reasonable deals in the
past that would have allowed for reasonable and autonomous governance and
have always come back to what they do best which is guerilla warfare and
creating suicide bombers out of its children.





       
Date: 19 Jan 2009 10:47:01
From: risky biz
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?
On Jan 18 2009 9:02 PM, James L. Hankins wrote:

> In addition, you and Chris Robin really stick your heads in the sand if you
> think Hamas can't get anything into the region. They choose to acquire
> armaments and continue warfare. They've pissed away reasonable deals in the
> past that would have allowed for reasonable and autonomous governance and
> have always come back to what they do best which is guerilla warfare and
> creating suicide bombers out of its children.

Really, Hanks? Really? Are these the "reasonable deals" they "pissed away"?

http://tinyurl.com/8k32q

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/14380

Is this the "autonomous governance" you're speaking of?
http://www.passia.org/publications/bookmaps/page2.htm

It's a concentration camp. The "network of existing or planned Israeli
thoroughfares" is especially cute. Jews only roads similar to a
drive-through animal park.

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Date: 19 Jan 2009 19:48:29
From: risky biz
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?
On Jan 19 2009 11:47 AM, risky biz wrote:

> On Jan 18 2009 9:02 PM, James L. Hankins wrote:
>
> > In addition, you and Chris Robin really stick your heads in the sand if
you
> > think Hamas can't get anything into the region. They choose to acquire
> > armaments and continue warfare. They've pissed away reasonable deals in
the
> > past that would have allowed for reasonable and autonomous governance and
> > have always come back to what they do best which is guerilla warfare and
> > creating suicide bombers out of its children.
>
> Really, Hanks? Really? Are these the "reasonable deals" they "pissed away"?

Sorry, Hanks- I should have indicated Hankins.

>
> http://tinyurl.com/8k32q
>
> http://www.nybooks.com/articles/14380
>
> Is this the "autonomous governance" you're speaking of?
> http://www.passia.org/publications/bookmaps/page2.htm
>
> It's a concentration camp. The "network of existing or planned Israeli
> thoroughfares" is especially cute. Jews only roads similar to a
> drive-through animal park.

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Date: 19 Jan 2009 15:00:55
From: James L. Hankins
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?

"risky biz" <risky-biz@sbcglobal.net > wrote in message
news:5eue46xfhk.ln2@recgroups.com...
> On Jan 18 2009 9:02 PM, James L. Hankins wrote:
>
>> In addition, you and Chris Robin really stick your heads in the sand if
>> you
>> think Hamas can't get anything into the region. They choose to acquire
>> armaments and continue warfare. They've pissed away reasonable deals in
>> the
>> past that would have allowed for reasonable and autonomous governance and
>> have always come back to what they do best which is guerilla warfare and
>> creating suicide bombers out of its children.
>
> Really, Hanks? Really? Are these the "reasonable deals" they "pissed
> away"?
>
> http://tinyurl.com/8k32q
>
> http://www.nybooks.com/articles/14380
>
> Is this the "autonomous governance" you're speaking of?
> http://www.passia.org/publications/bookmaps/page2.htm
>
> It's a concentration camp. The "network of existing or planned Israeli
> thoroughfares" is especially cute. Jews only roads similar to a
> drive-through animal park.



It's funny how you and Robin appear to embrace Arafat without question, but
think Bush is behind conspiracies that produce every ill in the world.

Arafat would be nothing if there was peace in the region. He had no
interest at all in peace and strong self-interest as to his personal power
in the perpetuation of conflict. It's actually kind of difficult for me to
not feel some sympathy for the Palestinian people, but the history of the
situation is that they have consistently placed thugs and terrorists as
their leaders and have taken virtually no steps to deal with their miserable
lot in an constructive way.




         
Date: 19 Jan 2009 19:47:17
From: risky biz
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?
On Jan 19 2009 2:00 PM, James L. Hankins wrote:

> "risky biz" <risky-biz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:5eue46xfhk.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > On Jan 18 2009 9:02 PM, James L. Hankins wrote:
> >
> >> In addition, you and Chris Robin really stick your heads in the sand if
> >> you
> >> think Hamas can't get anything into the region. They choose to acquire
> >> armaments and continue warfare. They've pissed away reasonable deals in
> >> the
> >> past that would have allowed for reasonable and autonomous governance and
> >> have always come back to what they do best which is guerilla warfare and
> >> creating suicide bombers out of its children.
> >
> > Really, Hanks? Really? Are these the "reasonable deals" they "pissed
> > away"?
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/8k32q
> >
> > http://www.nybooks.com/articles/14380
> >
> > Is this the "autonomous governance" you're speaking of?
> > http://www.passia.org/publications/bookmaps/page2.htm
> >
> > It's a concentration camp. The "network of existing or planned Israeli
> > thoroughfares" is especially cute. Jews only roads similar to a
> > drive-through animal park.
>
>
>
> It's funny how you and Robin appear to embrace Arafat without question, but
> think Bush is behind conspiracies that produce every ill in the world.

Which I did exactly where, Hankins? Put your money where your mouth is.

> Arafat would be nothing if there was peace in the region. He had no
> interest at all in peace and strong self-interest as to his personal power
> in the perpetuation of conflict. It's actually kind of difficult for me to
> not feel some sympathy for the Palestinian people, but the history of the
> situation is that they have consistently placed thugs and terrorists as
> their leaders and have taken virtually no steps to deal with their miserable
> lot in an constructive way.

Nice way to dodge the above provided factual information, Hankins, which
is 180 degrees opposite of what you earlier enunciated. You're pretty sad,
actually- an American dupe par excellence who begs for more.

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Date: 19 Jan 2009 22:31:20
From: James L. Hankins
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?

"risky biz" <risky-biz@sbcglobal.net > wrote in message
news:53uf46x4ko.ln2@recgroups.com...
> On Jan 19 2009 2:00 PM, James L. Hankins wrote:
>
>> "risky biz" <risky-biz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:5eue46xfhk.ln2@recgroups.com...
>> > On Jan 18 2009 9:02 PM, James L. Hankins wrote:
>> >
>> >> In addition, you and Chris Robin really stick your heads in the sand
>> >> if
>> >> you
>> >> think Hamas can't get anything into the region. They choose to
>> >> acquire
>> >> armaments and continue warfare. They've pissed away reasonable deals
>> >> in
>> >> the
>> >> past that would have allowed for reasonable and autonomous governance
>> >> and
>> >> have always come back to what they do best which is guerilla warfare
>> >> and
>> >> creating suicide bombers out of its children.
>> >
>> > Really, Hanks? Really? Are these the "reasonable deals" they "pissed
>> > away"?
>> >
>> > http://tinyurl.com/8k32q
>> >
>> > http://www.nybooks.com/articles/14380
>> >
>> > Is this the "autonomous governance" you're speaking of?
>> > http://www.passia.org/publications/bookmaps/page2.htm
>> >
>> > It's a concentration camp. The "network of existing or planned Israeli
>> > thoroughfares" is especially cute. Jews only roads similar to a
>> > drive-through animal park.
>>
>>
>>
>> It's funny how you and Robin appear to embrace Arafat without question,
>> but
>> think Bush is behind conspiracies that produce every ill in the world.
>
> Which I did exactly where, Hankins? Put your money where your mouth is.


In those links you provided, all of which were news stories from the early
1990s when Arafat was calling the shots. You cited them to rebut my
assertion that the Palestinians pissed away reasonable deals. For the
articles to have any bearing on that issue you must necessarily have to
defend Arafat's decisions.



>> Arafat would be nothing if there was peace in the region. He had no
>> interest at all in peace and strong self-interest as to his personal
>> power
>> in the perpetuation of conflict. It's actually kind of difficult for me
>> to
>> not feel some sympathy for the Palestinian people, but the history of the
>> situation is that they have consistently placed thugs and terrorists as
>> their leaders and have taken virtually no steps to deal with their
>> miserable
>> lot in an constructive way.
>
> Nice way to dodge the above provided factual information, Hankins, which
> is 180 degrees opposite of what you earlier enunciated. You're pretty sad,
> actually- an American dupe par excellence who begs for more.



You didn't provide any factual information, just what amounts to op-ed
pieces.

Speaking of dodging, I noticed that in your earlier reply to my post you
completely ignored the fact that Hamas seems to get all the weapons and
warfare materials it needs yet for some reason doesn't seem to concerned
with the hungry children which blows your horseshit "concentration camp"
theory out of the water. Kind of difficult to defend the indefensible isn't
it?




           
Date: 19 Jan 2009 21:09:42
From: risky biz
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?
On Jan 19 2009 9:31 PM, James L. Hankins wrote:

> "risky biz" <risky-biz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:53uf46x4ko.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > On Jan 19 2009 2:00 PM, James L. Hankins wrote:
> >
> >> "risky biz" <risky-biz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> >> news:5eue46xfhk.ln2@recgroups.com...
> >> > On Jan 18 2009 9:02 PM, James L. Hankins wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> In addition, you and Chris Robin really stick your heads in the sand
> >> >> if
> >> >> you
> >> >> think Hamas can't get anything into the region. They choose to
> >> >> acquire
> >> >> armaments and continue warfare. They've pissed away reasonable deals
> >> >> in
> >> >> the
> >> >> past that would have allowed for reasonable and autonomous governance
> >> >> and
> >> >> have always come back to what they do best which is guerilla warfare
> >> >> and
> >> >> creating suicide bombers out of its children.
> >> >
> >> > Really, Hanks? Really? Are these the "reasonable deals" they "pissed
> >> > away"?
> >> >
> >> > http://tinyurl.com/8k32q
> >> >
> >> > http://www.nybooks.com/articles/14380
> >> >
> >> > Is this the "autonomous governance" you're speaking of?
> >> > http://www.passia.org/publications/bookmaps/page2.htm
> >> >
> >> > It's a concentration camp. The "network of existing or planned Israeli
> >> > thoroughfares" is especially cute. Jews only roads similar to a
> >> > drive-through animal park.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> It's funny how you and Robin appear to embrace Arafat without question,
> >> but
> >> think Bush is behind conspiracies that produce every ill in the world.
> >
> > Which I did exactly where, Hankins? Put your money where your mouth is.
>
>
> In those links you provided, all of which were news stories from the early
> 1990s when Arafat was calling the shots. You cited them to rebut my
> assertion that the Palestinians pissed away reasonable deals. For the
> articles to have any bearing on that issue you must necessarily have to
> defend Arafat's decisions.
>
>
>
> >> Arafat would be nothing if there was peace in the region. He had no
> >> interest at all in peace and strong self-interest as to his personal
> >> power
> >> in the perpetuation of conflict. It's actually kind of difficult for me
> >> to
> >> not feel some sympathy for the Palestinian people, but the history of the
> >> situation is that they have consistently placed thugs and terrorists as
> >> their leaders and have taken virtually no steps to deal with their
> >> miserable
> >> lot in an constructive way.
> >
> > Nice way to dodge the above provided factual information, Hankins, which
> > is 180 degrees opposite of what you earlier enunciated. You're pretty sad,
> > actually- an American dupe par excellence who begs for more.
>
>
>
> You didn't provide any factual information, just what amounts to op-ed
> pieces.
>
> Speaking of dodging, I noticed that in your earlier reply to my post you
> completely ignored the fact that Hamas seems to get all the weapons and
> warfare materials it needs yet for some reason doesn't seem to concerned
> with the hungry children which blows your horseshit "concentration camp"
> theory out of the water. Kind of difficult to defend the indefensible isn't
> it?

You're brainless, Hankins. Hamas delivers lots of humanitarian necessities
to the people of Gaza, smuggling it when the Israeli nazis make that a
requirement and risking their lives to do it. That's why they were
elected.

Since you're suddenly so concerned about the humanitarian needs of the
people of Gaza I'm wondering why you haven't mentioned that Israel bombed
their water treatment facilities.

You really are just a jerk.

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Date: 20 Jan 2009 06:38:01
From: FL Turbo
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?
On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:09:42 -0800, "risky biz"
<risky-biz@sbcglobal.net > wrote:

>On Jan 19 2009 9:31 PM, James L. Hankins wrote:
>
>> "risky biz" <risky-biz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:53uf46x4ko.ln2@recgroups.com...

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Speaking of dodging, I noticed that in your earlier reply to my post you
>> completely ignored the fact that Hamas seems to get all the weapons and
>> warfare materials it needs yet for some reason doesn't seem to concerned
>> with the hungry children which blows your horseshit "concentration camp"
>> theory out of the water. Kind of difficult to defend the indefensible isn't
>> it?
>
>You're brainless, Hankins. Hamas delivers lots of humanitarian necessities
>to the people of Gaza, smuggling it when the Israeli nazis make that a
>requirement and risking their lives to do it. That's why they were
>elected.
>

Bullshit.
The people of Gaza get the majority of the necessities of life from
the international community, via UN organizations.

Gaza is essential a Welfare Society.

Hamas doesn't produce squat, except for bombs, home made rockets, and
propaganda.
They are great at intercepting humanitarian aid from the UN, and
passing it out after taking their cut, of course.

Hamas was elected by the citizens because they were perceived as being
less corrupt than the Old Boss.
As soon as Hamas came to power, they proceeded to slaughter their
political opponents like the murderous Terrorist thugs they are.

--
"You're brainless, Hankins."
risky biz - January 19, 2009


             
Date: 20 Jan 2009 07:06:34
From: Neverchop
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?

"FL Turbo" <noemail@notime.com > wrote in message
news:9sfbn4llb0i2anoqa5ruc2ffn5n2077c1m@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:09:42 -0800, "risky biz"
> <risky-biz@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> >On Jan 19 2009 9:31 PM, James L. Hankins wrote:
> >
> >> "risky biz" <risky-biz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> >> news:53uf46x4ko.ln2@recgroups.com...
>
> >
> >You're brainless, Hankins. Hamas delivers lots of humanitarian
necessities
> >to the people of Gaza, smuggling it when the Israeli nazis make that a
> >requirement and risking their lives to do it. That's why they were
> >elected.
> >
>
> Bullshit.

Hey, Goebbels would be very proud of risky. Let him have his 15 picoseconds
in the sun.






         
Date: 19 Jan 2009 17:00:19
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?

"James L. Hankins" <jhankins5@cox.net > wrote in message
news:dS5dl.89930$JA5.9379@newsfe08.iad...
>
> "risky biz" <risky-biz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:5eue46xfhk.ln2@recgroups.com...
>> On Jan 18 2009 9:02 PM, James L. Hankins wrote:
>>
>>> In addition, you and Chris Robin really stick your heads in the sand if
>>> you
>>> think Hamas can't get anything into the region. They choose to acquire
>>> armaments and continue warfare. They've pissed away reasonable deals in
>>> the
>>> past that would have allowed for reasonable and autonomous governance
>>> and
>>> have always come back to what they do best which is guerilla warfare and
>>> creating suicide bombers out of its children.
>>
>> Really, Hanks? Really? Are these the "reasonable deals" they "pissed
>> away"?
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/8k32q
>>
>> http://www.nybooks.com/articles/14380
>>
>> Is this the "autonomous governance" you're speaking of?
>> http://www.passia.org/publications/bookmaps/page2.htm
>>
>> It's a concentration camp. The "network of existing or planned Israeli
>> thoroughfares" is especially cute. Jews only roads similar to a
>> drive-through animal park.
>
>
>
> It's funny how you and Robin appear to embrace Arafat without question,
> but think Bush is behind conspiracies that produce every ill in the world.
>
> Arafat would be nothing if there was peace in the region. He had no
> interest at all in peace and strong self-interest as to his personal power
> in the perpetuation of conflict. It's actually kind of difficult for me
> to not feel some sympathy for the Palestinian people, but the history of
> the situation is that they have consistently placed thugs and terrorists
> as their leaders and have taken virtually no steps to deal with their
> miserable lot in an constructive way.

There will be peace when the Palestinian people begin loving their own
children more than they hate the Israelis.

Irish Mike
>
>




          
Date: 19 Jan 2009 21:13:28
From: Neverchop
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?

"Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net > wrote in message
news:0K6dl.10731$W06.8453@flpi148.ffdc.sbc.com...
>
> "James L. Hankins" <jhankins5@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:dS5dl.89930$JA5.9379@newsfe08.iad...
> >
> > as their leaders and have taken virtually no steps to deal with their
> > miserable lot in an constructive way.
>
> There will be peace when the Palestinian people begin loving their own
> children more than they hate the Israelis.
>
> Irish Mike


Both rats and pigs are known to eat their young. This type of behavior,
known as filial cannibalism, still puzzles science. There are theories but
the truth of the matter is simply that vicious animals eat their young.
Essentially there is no difference between them and the muslim criminal
classes.






     
Date: 18 Jan 2009 17:54:53
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?

"ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
news:tflc46x16b.ln2@recgroups.com...
> On Jan 18 2009 4:38 PM, James L. Hankins wrote:
>
>> "ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:0hjc46xsva.ln2@recgroups.com...
>> > On Jan 18 2009 12:31 PM, MZB wrote:
>> >
>> >> Yeah. Poor Hamas. They have to wear those funny stars and be housed in
>> >> concentration camps and be marched to the crematoriums, millions of
>> >> 'em.
>> >>
>> >> You are an idiot
>> >
>> > The Palestinians are a captive population. What part of that do you not
>> > understand?
>>
>>
>> The part of what you mean exactly by "captive population."
>
> "The Israeli blockade of Gaza has led to a steady rise in chronic
> malnutrition among the 1.5 million people living in the strip, according
> to a leaked report from the Red Cross.
>
> "It chronicles the 'devastating' effect of the siege that Israel imposed
> after Hamas seized control in June 2007 and notes that the dramatic fall
> in living standards has triggered a shift in diet that will damage the
> long-term health of those living in Gaza and has led to alarming
> deficiencies in iron, vitamin A and vitamin D.

Have you ever asked youself how Hamas can smuggle endless tons of rockets,
guns and ammunition in to Gaza but supposedly can't get any food to feed
their own women and kids? When they're not using them as human shields that
is. The plain hard truth is that the Palestineans can have peace any time
they decide to stop murdering Jews.

Irish Mike




      
Date: 18 Jan 2009 20:33:50
From: Neverchop
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?

"Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net > wrote in message
news:8rOcl.2357$%54.2207@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com...
>
> "ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> news:tflc46x16b.ln2@recgroups.com...
>
> Have you ever asked youself how Hamas can smuggle endless tons of rockets,
> guns and ammunition in to Gaza but supposedly can't get any food to feed
> their own women and kids?


Careful Mike, your asking a certifiable lunatic a reasonable question.
Intentionally forcing such powerful glimpses of reality onto such people,
for no matter how brief a period, have been known to trigger murderous rages
in them and he may have kids. Possibly neighbors. I'm just saying. Seriously
the guy is clinically insane so you need to be careful.









      
Date: 18 Jan 2009 17:55:41
From: ChrisRobin
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?
On Jan 18 2009 5:54 PM, Irish Mike wrote:

> "ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> news:tflc46x16b.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > On Jan 18 2009 4:38 PM, James L. Hankins wrote:
> >
> >> "ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> >> news:0hjc46xsva.ln2@recgroups.com...
> >> > On Jan 18 2009 12:31 PM, MZB wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Yeah. Poor Hamas. They have to wear those funny stars and be housed in
> >> >> concentration camps and be marched to the crematoriums, millions of
> >> >> 'em.
> >> >>
> >> >> You are an idiot
> >> >
> >> > The Palestinians are a captive population. What part of that do you not
> >> > understand?
> >>
> >>
> >> The part of what you mean exactly by "captive population."
> >
> > "The Israeli blockade of Gaza has led to a steady rise in chronic
> > malnutrition among the 1.5 million people living in the strip, according
> > to a leaked report from the Red Cross.
> >
> > "It chronicles the 'devastating' effect of the siege that Israel imposed
> > after Hamas seized control in June 2007 and notes that the dramatic fall
> > in living standards has triggered a shift in diet that will damage the
> > long-term health of those living in Gaza and has led to alarming
> > deficiencies in iron, vitamin A and vitamin D.
>
> Have you ever asked youself how Hamas can smuggle endless tons of rockets,
> guns and ammunition in to Gaza but supposedly can't get any food to feed
> their own women and kids? When they're not using them as human shields that
> is. The plain hard truth is that the Palestineans can have peace any time
> they decide to stop murdering Jews.

Well what have we here? Another dumbshit with no connection to reality.

Here's a clip I think you need to see. It's a clear admission by the
Israeli PM's spokesman that Israel, not Hamas, first violated the terms of
the ceasefire:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfFMZ7Y-s_c

And for the record, Israeli soldiers have also been accused of using human
shields on many occasions. Google it, if you dare.

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Date: 18 Jan 2009 13:52:55
From: ChrisRobin
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?
On Jan 18 2009 4:38 PM, James L. Hankins wrote:

> "ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> news:0hjc46xsva.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > On Jan 18 2009 12:31 PM, MZB wrote:
> >
> >> Yeah. Poor Hamas. They have to wear those funny stars and be housed in
> >> concentration camps and be marched to the crematoriums, millions of 'em.
> >>
> >> You are an idiot
> >
> > The Palestinians are a captive population. What part of that do you not
> > understand?
>
>
> The part of what you mean exactly by "captive population."

You can't be serious.

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Date: 18 Jan 2009 15:58:06
From: James L. Hankins
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?

"ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
news:nukc46xt2b.ln2@recgroups.com...
> On Jan 18 2009 4:38 PM, James L. Hankins wrote:
>
>> "ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:0hjc46xsva.ln2@recgroups.com...
>> > On Jan 18 2009 12:31 PM, MZB wrote:
>> >
>> >> Yeah. Poor Hamas. They have to wear those funny stars and be housed in
>> >> concentration camps and be marched to the crematoriums, millions of
>> >> 'em.
>> >>
>> >> You are an idiot
>> >
>> > The Palestinians are a captive population. What part of that do you not
>> > understand?
>>
>>
>> The part of what you mean exactly by "captive population."
>
> You can't be serious.



LOL! You think I know what you mean when you use loaded phrases like that?
Your views aren't exactly mainstream. Why don't you just explain it a
little bit more in-depth in plain, simple English? It's not like I'm asking
to fuck your sister.




      
Date: 18 Jan 2009 17:46:50
From: ChrisRobin
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?
On Jan 18 2009 4:58 PM, James L. Hankins wrote:

> "ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> news:nukc46xt2b.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > On Jan 18 2009 4:38 PM, James L. Hankins wrote:
> >
> >> "ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> >> news:0hjc46xsva.ln2@recgroups.com...
> >> > On Jan 18 2009 12:31 PM, MZB wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Yeah. Poor Hamas. They have to wear those funny stars and be housed in
> >> >> concentration camps and be marched to the crematoriums, millions of
> >> >> 'em.
> >> >>
> >> >> You are an idiot
> >> >
> >> > The Palestinians are a captive population. What part of that do you not
> >> > understand?
> >>
> >>
> >> The part of what you mean exactly by "captive population."
> >
> > You can't be serious.
>
>
>
> LOL! You think I know what you mean when you use loaded phrases like that?
> Your views aren't exactly mainstream. Why don't you just explain it a
> little bit more in-depth in plain, simple English? It's not like I'm asking
> to fuck your sister.

Israel is enforcing a physical and economic blockade on Gaza. Gazans can't
import goods. Can't export goods. Can't leave Gaza without being shot by
Israeli soldiers, can't leave by boat without being destroyed by the
Israeli navy.

Thus, "captive." Any other "mainstream" words you'd like defined for you?

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Date: 19 Jan 2009 21:06:22
From: Pepe Papon
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 17:46:50 -0800, "ChrisRobin"
<a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid > wrote:

>Israel is enforcing a physical and economic blockade on Gaza. Gazans can't
>import goods. Can't export goods. Can't leave Gaza without being shot by
>Israeli soldiers, can't leave by boat without being destroyed by the
>Israeli navy.

Israel controls Gaza's border with Egypt?


       
Date: 18 Jan 2009 21:50:19
From: James L. Hankins
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?

"ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
news:al2d46xgfd.ln2@recgroups.com...


> Israel is enforcing a physical and economic blockade on Gaza. Gazans can't
> import goods. Can't export goods. Can't leave Gaza without being shot by
> Israeli soldiers, can't leave by boat without being destroyed by the
> Israeli navy.
>
> Thus, "captive." Any other "mainstream" words you'd like defined for you?



I see. How do you suppose all those weapons found there way into Gaza?




        
Date: 19 Jan 2009 10:32:55
From: risky biz
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?
On Jan 18 2009 8:50 PM, James L. Hankins wrote:

> "ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> news:al2d46xgfd.ln2@recgroups.com...
>
>
> > Israel is enforcing a physical and economic blockade on Gaza. Gazans can't
> > import goods. Can't export goods. Can't leave Gaza without being shot by
> > Israeli soldiers, can't leave by boat without being destroyed by the
> > Israeli navy.
> >
> > Thus, "captive." Any other "mainstream" words you'd like defined for you?
>
>
>
> I see. How do you suppose all those weapons found there way into Gaza?

By smuggling them past the Israeli/American famine siege along with food.
It's reported that 90% of what's being smuggled through the tunnels is
food and necessities. That's why Israel wants to close them. So they can
more effectively starve the Palestinians whenever they choose.

I mean, what are yoou trying to say Hanks? That Israel hasn't reduced
economic traffic in and out of Gaza by 85%? WTF- it's reported everywhere.
Act like you have a brain.

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Date: 18 Jan 2009 22:23:23
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?

"ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
news:al2d46xgfd.ln2@recgroups.com...
> On Jan 18 2009 4:58 PM, James L. Hankins wrote:
>
>> "ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:nukc46xt2b.ln2@recgroups.com...
>> > On Jan 18 2009 4:38 PM, James L. Hankins wrote:
>> >
>> >> "ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
>> >> news:0hjc46xsva.ln2@recgroups.com...
>> >> > On Jan 18 2009 12:31 PM, MZB wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Yeah. Poor Hamas. They have to wear those funny stars and be housed
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> concentration camps and be marched to the crematoriums, millions of
>> >> >> 'em.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You are an idiot
>> >> >
>> >> > The Palestinians are a captive population. What part of that do you
>> >> > not
>> >> > understand?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> The part of what you mean exactly by "captive population."
>> >
>> > You can't be serious.
>>
>>
>>
>> LOL! You think I know what you mean when you use loaded phrases like
>> that?
>> Your views aren't exactly mainstream. Why don't you just explain it a
>> little bit more in-depth in plain, simple English? It's not like I'm
>> asking
>> to fuck your sister.
>
> Israel is enforcing a physical and economic blockade on Gaza. Gazans can't
> import goods.

Other than tons of rockets, guns, ammunition and explosives. Maybe your
pals at Hamas should past up the next load of rockets and bring in some food
to feed their women and kids instead.

Irish Mike




        
Date: 18 Jan 2009 22:17:29
From: Neverchop
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?

"Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net > wrote in message
news:SmScl.11634$as4.8626@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com...
>
> "ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> news:al2d46xgfd.ln2@recgroups.com...
>
> Other than tons of rockets, guns, ammunition and explosives. Maybe your
> pals at Hamas should past up the next load of rockets and bring in some
food
> to feed their women and kids instead.
>

Approximately 700 hundred tons of rockets and rocket components and at least
twice that amount of guns, ammunition, RPG's, mines and grenades, etc. Could
feed a lot of people if they weren't so murderously insane. Plus they could
bring in unlimited amounts of whatever they need just like any normal
country if they could just set aside their racist hatred. Denying this fact
is simply nuts. Then again it is Chris and risky making the case and proving
the point. One is the groups sole paranoid schizophrenic while the other is
the only genuine psychopath (not to be confused with the mere sociopath of
which the are at least a dozen or so.) They say doing the same thing over
and over again while expecting a different outcome each time is one of the
principle definitions of insanity. Do it when the result is getting blown to
pieces by a vastly superior military force is just adds gross stupidity to
the situation. It is kind of fun to watch though.






      
Date: 18 Jan 2009 17:43:57
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?

"James L. Hankins" <jhankins5@cox.net > wrote in message
news:QBNcl.42062$H12.6322@newsfe12.iad...
>
> "ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> news:nukc46xt2b.ln2@recgroups.com...
>> On Jan 18 2009 4:38 PM, James L. Hankins wrote:
>>
>>> "ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:0hjc46xsva.ln2@recgroups.com...
>>> > On Jan 18 2009 12:31 PM, MZB wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Yeah. Poor Hamas. They have to wear those funny stars and be housed
>>> >> in
>>> >> concentration camps and be marched to the crematoriums, millions of
>>> >> 'em.
>>> >>
>>> >> You are an idiot
>>> >
>>> > The Palestinians are a captive population. What part of that do you
>>> > not
>>> > understand?
>>>
>>>
>>> The part of what you mean exactly by "captive population."
>>
>> You can't be serious.
>
>
>
> LOL! You think I know what you mean when you use loaded phrases like
> that? Your views aren't exactly mainstream. Why don't you just explain it
> a little bit more in-depth in plain, simple English? It's not like I'm
> asking to fuck your sister.

I disagree with Chris Robin's lunatic liberal left, pro-Hamas views as much
as you do. But show him aq little respect. If there is any sister-fucking
to be done, I have no doubt Chris takes care of that himself.

Irish Mike
>
>




  
Date: 18 Jan 2009 10:39:55
From: risky biz
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?
On Jan 18 2009 10:31 AM, MZB wrote:

> Yeah. Poor Hamas. They have to wear those funny stars and be housed in
> concentration camps and be marched to the crematoriums, millions of 'em.

A fond dream of Israeli nazis, you can bet on that.

>
> You are an idiot
>
> Mel

Nice try, Mel.


> "risky biz" <risky-biz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:pa5c46x3o9.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > Just because it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck? One of Israel's
> > specialties, since day one of it's founding, has been summary execution of
> > civilians:
> > http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/18/israel-war-crimes-gaza-conflict
> >
> > Don't expect very many of the American taxpayers financing this and whose
> > Democratic and Republican parties enthusiastically supports it to be
> > bothered by it.
> >

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Date: 18 Jan 2009 13:43:32
From: MZB
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?
You mean unlike REAL Nazis, that actually DID that stuff.

The only thing REAL in the post below is that you are truly an idiot -- you
should be ashamed of yourself, posting stuff like that.

Mel
"risky biz" <risky-biz@sbcglobal.net > wrote in message
news:rk9c46x43a.ln2@recgroups.com...
> On Jan 18 2009 10:31 AM, MZB wrote:
>
>> Yeah. Poor Hamas. They have to wear those funny stars and be housed in
>> concentration camps and be marched to the crematoriums, millions of 'em.
>
> A fond dream of Israeli nazis, you can bet on that.
>
>>
>> You are an idiot
>>
>> Mel
>
> Nice try, Mel.
>
>
>> "risky biz" <risky-biz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:pa5c46x3o9.ln2@recgroups.com...
>> > Just because it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck? One of
>> > Israel's
>> > specialties, since day one of it's founding, has been summary execution
>> > of
>> > civilians:
>> > http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/18/israel-war-crimes-gaza-conflict
>> >
>> > Don't expect very many of the American taxpayers financing this and
>> > whose
>> > Democratic and Republican parties enthusiastically supports it to be
>> > bothered by it.
>> >
>
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Date: 18 Jan 2009 10:52:46
From: risky biz
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?
On Jan 18 2009 11:43 AM, MZB wrote:

> You mean unlike REAL Nazis, that actually DID that stuff.
>
> The only thing REAL in the post below is that you are truly an idiot -- you
> should be ashamed of yourself, posting stuff like that.
>
> Mel

Oh, that's right Mel- I forgot. The Palestinians are all liars . . and
anti-semitic, too.

By the way, there are photographs of Israeli bulldozers running over
civilians. Not to worry, though- they're anti-semitic photographs.

You should be ashamed of being a fucking moral degenerate.


> "risky biz" <risky-biz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:rk9c46x43a.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > On Jan 18 2009 10:31 AM, MZB wrote:
> >
> >> Yeah. Poor Hamas. They have to wear those funny stars and be housed in
> >> concentration camps and be marched to the crematoriums, millions of 'em.
> >
> > A fond dream of Israeli nazis, you can bet on that.
> >
> >>
> >> You are an idiot
> >>
> >> Mel
> >
> > Nice try, Mel.
> >
> >
> >> "risky biz" <risky-biz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> >> news:pa5c46x3o9.ln2@recgroups.com...
> >> > Just because it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck? One of
> >> > Israel's
> >> > specialties, since day one of it's founding, has been summary execution
> >> > of
> >> > civilians:
> >> >
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/18/israel-war-crimes-gaza-conflict
> >> >
> >> > Don't expect very many of the American taxpayers financing this and
> >> > whose
> >> > Democratic and Republican parties enthusiastically supports it to be
> >> > bothered by it.
> >> >
> >

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Date: 18 Jan 2009 10:22:06
From: Flash Gordon
Subject: Re: Why would anyone call the Israelis nazis?
Give a listen to this:
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/01/10-7