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Date: 03 Jan 2009 09:43:30
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Why John McCain really lost the election
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There were many factors that contributed to John McCain's loss: McCain and Obama both agreed to stick to public campaign financing. When Obama saw how much money he was raising, he broke his word and out-spent McCain by about five to one. The liberal main stream media and the Hollywood liberal celebrities fell in love with Obama and handled him with kid gloves through out his campaign. John McCain assisted Obama by refusing to capitalize on the Jeremiah Wright fiasco. People were tired of President Bush and tired of the Iraq war. The fact that Bush was a lousy communicator only made things worse. However, the turning point of the election was the mid-September financial crash. Immediately preceding that event, McCain/Palin were leading in the polls in nearly all the swing states and still had momentum from the RNC. When the financial collapse first hit, I thought it was McCain's ticket to the white house for these reasons: First, McCain had warned against F-MAE and F-MAC's increasing involvement in the whole subprime mortgage mess. And it was Bill Clinton who required that these organizations have up to 50% of their multi-billion dollar portfolios made up of these high risk subprime loans. Second, the Democrats had been in charge of all the congressional banking and finance committees for the past two years. Between 8/07 and 8/08, under Barney Frank and Chris Dodd's "leadership" F-MAE and F-MAC lost 90% of its stock value. Third, at the time McCain was warning congress about the danger of subprime loans at F-MAE and F-MAC, Obama was an arm twister for ACORN and playing the race card on any Illinois bank that refused to make high risk loans to unqualified minority borrowers. And, Obama helped ACORN file a law suit against a finance company, which resulted in banks lowering their lending standards for high risk subprime mortgages all across the country. Not to mention that Obama's campaign advisor (Raines) had personally made $90 million plus while running F-MAE and F-MAC straight in to the ground. Fourth, Obama had jumped on the bandwagon to provide the $700 billion + bail out and this was in addition to his plans to raise taxes and his repeated promises to greatly increases spending to fund new welfare, entitlement and give away programs. So to me, it seemed a perfect opportunity for McCain. I thought McCain would really hammer Obama and the Democrats with these facts and vote against the $700 billion+ bailout. I thought McCain would come out with a clear financial plan of tax cuts for middle class tax payers, businesses, corporations and at least a two year suspension of the capital gains tax. That he would explain that, painful as it might be, we had to let the market correct itself and that we could not tax and spend our way out of a recession. Equally important , that McCain would pledge to investigate and fully prosecute those responsible - including Wall Street crooks and the Washington politicians. But I was wrong. Sadly, McCain let Obama and the Democrats slide, stopped his campaign, went back to Washington and meekly voted yes for the bail out. It was the strategic blunder that cost him the election . One final note for all you Obama fans. Think about this. As unpopular as Bush was. As unpopular as the Iraq war was. After out-spending McCain five to one. After all of McCain's campaign blunders. After having the main stream liberal media in the tank for him through out his whole campaign. After the biggest financial disaster since the Great Depression. After all that, Obama still only won by 7 million votes and 55+ million of us voted against him. Irish Mike
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Date: 19 Jan 2009 17:05:20
From: pixelfreak
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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On 2009-01-03 06:43:30 -0800, "Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net > said: > There were many factors that contributed to John McCain's loss: > > McCain and Obama both agreed to stick to public campaign financing. > When Obama saw how much money he was raising, he broke his word and > out-spent McCain by about five to one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDCHOGG9jqo -- thepixelfreak
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Date: 19 Jan 2009 19:12:50
From: OrangeSFO
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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On Jan 19, 6:14=A0pm, "Irish Reich" <mjos...@ameritech.net > wrote: > > Your boy has been proven > to be a liar Notice how Mike has to call the black man "boy"...
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Date: 19 Jan 2009 19:20:54
From: RazzO
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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Yes, yes I did. On Jan 19 2009 7:12 PM, OrangeSFO wrote: > On Jan 19, 6:14 pm, "Irish Adolph" <mjos...@ameritech.net> wrote: > > > > > Your boy has been proven > > to be a liar > > > > Notice how Mike has to call the black man "boy"... RazzO "Fucking poker, brings out the mental illness in everyone!" - Porsche_Dan ______________________________________________________________________ looking for a better newsgroup-reader? - www.recgroups.com
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Date: 19 Jan 2009 21:14:24
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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"pixelfreak" <not@dot.com > wrote in message news:2009011917052075249%not@dotcom... > On 2009-01-03 06:43:30 -0800, "Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net> said: > >> There were many factors that contributed to John McCain's loss: >> >> McCain and Obama both agreed to stick to public campaign financing. When >> Obama saw how much money he was raising, he broke his word and out-spent >> McCain by about five to one. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDCHOGG9jqo > > -- > > thepixelfreak Truth is a bitch, ain't it bucko. But cheer up. Your boy has been proven to be a liar and shown that his word doesn't mean jack shit. But, at least he hasn't told us any stories about ducking sniper fire - yet. Irish Mike Proud to be one of the 55,000,000+ Americans who did not vote for your Messiah.
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Date: 19 Jan 2009 18:48:56
From: pixelfreak
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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On 2009-01-19 18:14:24 -0800, "Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net > said: >>> McCain and Obama both agreed to stick to public campaign financing. >>> When Obama saw how much money he was raising, he broke his word and >>> out-spent McCain by about five to one. >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDCHOGG9jqo >> >> -- >> >> thepixelfreak > > Truth is a bitch, ain't it bucko. But cheer up. Your boy has been > proven to be a liar and shown that his word doesn't mean jack shit. > But, at least he hasn't told us any stories about ducking sniper fire - > yet. Don't look at me for comfort poor baby. I don't know where your pacifier is. Go ask your mommy. -- thepixelfreak
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Date: 19 Jan 2009 19:18:27
From: RazzO
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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Irish Reich, I think Senator McCain spent enough money. That's all we needed was 5 times more of the 98% negative adds. He had no plan. He didn't even get it. And neither do you. What a great moment for us all. WE ARE ONE now, you dumb MF. Can't you feel the love? No, because you are racist and have the bandwidth of a mouse. Your brain still works like a 1400 baud modem. > On 2009-01-19 18:14:24 -0800, "Irish Reich" <mjostar@ameritech.net> said: > > >>> McCain and Obama both agreed to stick to public campaign financing. > >>> When Obama saw how much money he was raising, he broke his word and > >>> out-spent McCain by about five to one. RazzO "Fucking poker, brings out the mental illness in everyone!" - Porsche_Dan ---- RecGroups : the community-oriented newsreader : www.recgroups.com
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Date: 19 Jan 2009 14:19:43
From: OrangeSFO
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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Mike is going to spend Tuesday with this fingers in his ears, stamping his feet and shouting "LA LA LA LA LA I CANT HEAR YOU BARACK!"
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Date: 04 Jan 2009 11:44:31
From: Stephen Jacobs
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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"Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net > wrote in message news:LUK7l.7983$pr6.2429@flpi149.ffdc.sbc.com... > There were many factors that contributed to John McCain's loss: > .......... You miss the biggest one (and I'm not going to argue with you about the stuff you pick out) John McCain never had any chance at all. He was a sacrificial lamb, a candidate given a pat on the back and a lot of distance from the insiders. He was nominated because NO republican had much of a chance. It wasn't just that Bush was personally unpopular, Bush had also carried out the neoconservative platform, and gotten unpopular results. And the Republican party is perceived as being dominated by neoconservatives. (A couple items to distinguish neoconservatives from conservatives: conservatives want to reduce both taxation and spending while neoconservatives want to reduce taxes and increase government debt. Conservatives favor minimal foreign entanglements while neoconservatives want the US to direct the world as its only superpower). While the Iraq war looked and still looks like it was started mostly for personal reasons ("He wanted to kill my daddy!"), it was in keeping with neoconservative principles. And it was and is unpopular. It is likely that victory would be a bigger blow to US power than defeat (Great idea to replace a mostly-secular tyranny with local ambitions and little popular support with a far-from-secular authoritarian state with regional ambitions and moderate popular support...allied with Iran and hostile to Saudi Arabia--not the worst humanitarian outcome, but as an American, I'd feel safer with 20 years of chaos). There was a definite sense among most people in the US that times had been good in the late 1990-s and had gotten hard around 2001 (with Bush in office. You can say that it was a Clinton bubble that burst, but 1) that doesn't affect the perception and 2) it was also substantially a Greenspan bubble, and he's more neocon than not). People in power were proudly proclaiming recovery, but it didn't feel like a recovery to about the lower 2/3 of the economic scale. War and the economy favoring the other side... it would have taken a miracle for a Republican to win, and McCain isn't a miracle worker. The convention gave McCain a nice bounce, but these things always happen and always fade. The Democratic Party candidate selection process was a whole lot better theater than the GOP one (partly because they knew the nominee had a nearly-guaranteed win), which is worth a percent or two in the election. Sarah Palin was a brilliant move, but a failure in the end. Better to shake things up than to lose meekly. But in the end she only played to the already-decided.
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Date: 20 Jan 2009 15:53:26
From: joeturn
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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He walked with his head held high today after getting out of his bullet-proof limo! There were no snipers!! I did not vote for him but I have to say he was the best politician available!! His speach was almost believable! Big bidniz and small bidnez have been a part of organized crime forever!! The spoils of war goes to the victor, thus our poor boys over in Iraq will simply be reasigned to Pakistan$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Hated to hear poor Ted, the last of the Kennedy era, was carted off the stage wonder who will be hand picked to take his place??
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Date: 20 Jan 2009 16:29:14
From: Pepe Papon
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 15:53:26 -0800 (PST), joeturn <joeturn2000@yahoo.com > wrote: >Hated to hear poor Ted, the last of the Kennedy era, was carted off >the stage >wonder who will be hand picked to take his place?? The Governor of Illinois.
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Date: 19 Jan 2009 14:07:24
From: joeturn
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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The Black Messiah will end up crusified if he goes against big buisiness as did JFK and brother Robert! The Chosen One can only veto but he dare not go against The Brown & "Root of all Evil$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Go down Moses down in Egypt land tell old phaoroah to let my people go! Spell check Mr Book Worn TIA<I;-)
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Date: 19 Jan 2009 20:03:31
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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"joeturn" <joeturn2000@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:7a628b5d-8ae3-497c-a209-1ec1112442ae@f40g2000pri.googlegroups.com... > The Black Messiah will end up crusified if he goes against big > buisiness as did JFK and brother Robert! The Chosen One can only veto > but he dare not go against The Brown & "Root of all Evil$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ > $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ > > Go down Moses down in Egypt land tell old phaoroah to let my people > go! > > Spell check Mr Book Worn TIA<I;-) Are you fucking serious? The Messiah controls the White House, Senate, Congress and he just put his hand picked liberal tax cheat in charge of the Treasury. He thinks the way out of a recession is to raise taxes on corporations, small businesses, capital gains and give money to the 40% of people who pay zero income tax. American business hasn't got a snow ball's chance in hell. Irish Mike
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Date: 19 Jan 2009 21:50:09
From: Pepe Papon
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:03:31 -0500, "Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net > wrote: > and he just put his hand picked liberal tax cheat in charge of the >Treasury. Extra points for the use of "hand-picked", as if to imply that Obama's way of picking his Cabinet is somehow different from presidents who came before.
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Date: 07 Jan 2009 01:15:10
From: Pepe Papon
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 11:44:31 -0500, "Stephen Jacobs" <jacosa@comcast.net > wrote: >While the Iraq war looked and still looks like it was started mostly for >personal reasons ("He wanted to kill my daddy!"), Hardly. The war has always been first and foremost about oil. >Sarah Palin was a brilliant move, but a failure in the end. Better to shake >things up than to lose meekly. But in the end she only played to the >already-decided. It got a lot of people excited, but it also proved that McCain's "Putting Country First" slogan was just empty propaganda. Palin was clueless on key issues, and having her a heartbeat from the Presidency would have put the nation at risk.
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Date: 06 Jan 2009 07:16:20
From: Bob T.
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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On Jan 6, 7:09=A0am, "Irish Mike" <mjos...@ameritech.net > wrote: > "Bob T." <b...@synapse-cs.com> wrote in message > > news:004fed22-c3ab-4524-97d9-63f540dcea99@p2g2000prn.googlegroups.com... > On Jan 6, 6:14 am, "Irish Mike" <mjos...@ameritech.net> wrote: > > > "joeturn" <joeturn2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > >news:0520afa8-b842-423e-a136-12e7861e9fda@h20g2000yqn.googlegroups.com..= . > > > > Page Three > > > Sorry bucko, every one fell asleep half way through page one. > > Mike, were you frightened by a compound word at an early age? > > - Bob T. > > > > > Irish Mike > > No Bob, I've just found that left wing liberal propaganda is usually bull > shit at the beginning and bull shit at the end, with nothing much else in > between. Mike, it's time for you to learn English. "Bullshit" is also a compound word, like "everyone" and "halfway". "Left-wing" is a hyphenated word.=A0 > But not to worry Bucko. =A0Just 14 days until The Messiah and his > mob take over the White House, Congress and Senate. =A0Then all the bad n= ews > will go away and all them scary terrorist guys will be our pals and you a= nd > Patti can go to gay pro-abortion rallies every weekend. =A0And the 55,000= ,000+ > of us who didn't vote for your Messiah will finally get our turn at bat - > since you've been at the plate swinging every day for eight straight year= s. :) Oh my God, do you mean that you haven't really begun to complain about Obama? Are you going to give up poker and devote yourself full time (not a compound word) to whining? Sometimes I worry about you, bucko. - Bob T. > > Irish Mike
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Date: 06 Jan 2009 06:38:27
From: Bob T.
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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On Jan 6, 6:14=A0am, "Irish Mike" <mjos...@ameritech.net > wrote: > "joeturn" <joeturn2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:0520afa8-b842-423e-a136-12e7861e9fda@h20g2000yqn.googlegroups.com... > > > Page Three > > Sorry bucko, every one fell asleep half way through page one. Mike, were you frightened by a compound word at an early age? - Bob T. > > Irish Mike
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Date: 06 Jan 2009 10:09:52
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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"Bob T." <bob@synapse-cs.com > wrote in message news:004fed22-c3ab-4524-97d9-63f540dcea99@p2g2000prn.googlegroups.com... On Jan 6, 6:14 am, "Irish Mike" <mjos...@ameritech.net > wrote: > "joeturn" <joeturn2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:0520afa8-b842-423e-a136-12e7861e9fda@h20g2000yqn.googlegroups.com... > > > Page Three > > Sorry bucko, every one fell asleep half way through page one. Mike, were you frightened by a compound word at an early age? - Bob T. > > Irish Mike No Bob, I've just found that left wing liberal propaganda is usually bull shit at the beginning and bull shit at the end, with nothing much else in between. But not to worry Bucko. Just 14 days until The Messiah and his mob take over the White House, Congress and Senate. Then all the bad news will go away and all them scary terrorist guys will be our pals and you and Patti can go to gay pro-abortion rallies every weekend. And the 55,000,000+ of us who didn't vote for your Messiah will finally get our turn at bat - since you've been at the plate swinging every day for eight straight years. :) Irish Mike
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Date: 06 Jan 2009 05:43:58
From: joeturn
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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Page 4 of four Shall I copy of the links here also?? Tales from the Grassy Knoll: From 1911 to 9/11 Richard Armitage Links (more links to Armitage sources) William J Casey and Iran/contra My Dream and the Color of Suffering by Michael C Ruppert 'War is Horrible. But...': Speech by US Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage, January 21 Donald Rumsfeld and Richard Armitage: background notes The Bush 100: Richard Armitage Richard Armitage's Colorful Past The Dangers of Richard Armitage The Background is Oil The Dick Cheney Deep Data Dump It's a Lie by Michael C Ruppert Secret Agent Man: Iran-contra operative Richard Armitage is now Colin Powell's No.2 Kosovo Liberation Army and Albanian Sponsors Have Well Documented Roots in The Heroin Trade The Golden Triangle Texts CIA Behind the Bushes: The New Generation The Bush-Cheney Drug Empire Bank of New York Laundromat 911 Timeline by Michael C Ruppert Main Index >> Back to I=91N=92I Index >> Previous Article >> Next Article All content on this site is copyright =A9 1987-2003 William Bowles unless otherwise stated. All rights reserved. You have the right to reproduce content if it is not-for-profit, non-commercial or =91fair use=92. For commercial reproduction, please contact the copyright owner.
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Date: 06 Jan 2009 05:39:57
From: joeturn
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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Page Three (2) interrogate civilians picked up at random by military units carrying out sweeps through villages; (3) "neutralize" targeted members of the NLF . . . The original Phoenix concept was quickly diluted, for two main reasons: (1) pressure from the top to fill numerical quotas of person to be neutralized; (2) difficulties at the bottom of identifying NLF civilian infrastructure, who were often indistinguishable from the general population, and the near impossibility of proving anyone membership in the NLF. The result was vastly to increase the numbers of innocent persons rounded up and imprisoned, indiscriminately murdered, and brutally tortured in an effort to show results . . . Between 1968 and 1972 hundreds of thousands of Vietnamese civilians were rounded up and turned over to the Vietnamese police for questioning. Such interrogation has usually been marked by brutal torture. http://www.vicpeace.org/stories/03/1070.html "After four tours with the U.S. Navy in Vietnam, Armitage joined the U.S. Defense Attach=E9's Office in Saigon in 1973, just in time to play a key role in "preparing" the botched evacuation of friendly South Vietnamese. Tens of thousands of loyal partners who had worked with the Americans were abandoned to advancing North Vietnamese Army and Viet Cong forces. Never one to admit failure or duplicity, Armitage covered his own posterior by accusing the Central Intelligence Agency of wrongly predicting that a deal for an orderly pullout could be arrived at with the advancing communists and then failing to provide enough notice that Saigon was about to fall. Fresh from the debacle in Southeast Asia, Armitage went to work as a consultant for the Defense Intelligence Agency, where the quality of his work, to say the least, did not improve." http://www.yellowtimes.org/article.php?sid=3D673 Following the US withdrawal from Vietnam in 1975, Armitage joined the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) and was posted to Tehran where he excelled at not predicting the overthrow of the Shah (the man he had been assigned to keep on the throne) and even went as far as accusing the Ayotollah Khomeini of being a friend of the Soviets. "Armitage became=85a special consultant to the Department of Defense, working out of Bangkok and dealing with unrepatriated prisoners and the missing in action. Armitage also started a mysterious business called the Far East Trading Company. Meanwhile, from 1976 to 1979 in Iran, Richard Secord was supervising the sale of US military aircraft and weapons to Middle Eastern nations. During this same period, there are reports that Shackley, Clines, Secord, and Armitage set up several curious corporations and subsidiaries around the world including Lake Resources, Stanford Technology Trading Group, Compa[g]nie de Services Fiduciaria, CSF Investments and Udall Research Corporation." http://www.vicpeace.org/stories/03/1070.html In fact all the companies referred to above, were and those that still exist, are so-called proprietaries of the CIA, a fact that further reinforces the belief that during this period Armitage was in the employ of the CIA, and although we can only speculate as to his role during this period, it is generally believed that the front companies were used for CIA covert actions in Southeast Asia and later in Afghanistan and it's been suggested that the idea of using heroin as a weapon in the 'war against communism' in both Indo-China and Afghanistan was Armitage's idea. "His critics had alleged in the past that he was the author of the idea of using heroin to weaken the fighting capability of the communists in Indo-China and then in Afghanistan though the late Le Comte de Marenches, the head of the French External Intelligence Agency under Presidents George Pompidou and Giscard d'Estaing, had claimed that it was he who had given this idea to the Americans with specific reference to Afghanistan." http://www.saag.org/papers5/paper473.html 1978 saw him (officially) rejoining government when he joined the staff of Senator Robert Dole and then as an advisor to Reagan election campaign who rewarded his services in 1981 by appointing him Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for East Asia and Pacific Affairs and then in 1983 he became Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs until 1989. His speciality was special forces operations and 'counter-terrorism'. Under George Bush Snr he was made 'Special Emissary' to King Hussein of Jordan during the 1991 Gulf War. But it's Armitage's role in the 'Secret Team' that was at the heart of the Iran-contra scandal during this period that kept him out of government until Bush the smaller grabbed the throne of state when Armitage was rewarded for his loyalty by being appointed as deputy secretary of state under his old friend Colin Powell. "Armitage=85under investigation for his role in the Reagan administration's Iran-Contra scandal. Though he testified that he didn't know about the administration's secret sale of arms to Iran until November 1986, when they became public knowledge, independent counsel Lawrence Walsh's report laid out extensive evidence that he knew about them a year earlier. In fact, Armitage apparently opposed the arms sales as early as December 1985, on the grounds that Iranians were "sleazebags." Secord later testified that he met with Armitage then in an effort to change his mind. Armitage claimed not to remember meeting with Secord, though Armitage's own meeting logs show that he did. Armitage kept a December 6, 1985 document describing the legal ramifications of the Iran arms sales, entitled "Possibility for Leaks," locked in his Pentagon safe until June 1987, when it was belatedly turned over to Walsh and the congressional Iran-Contra committee. Armitage also attended a Pentagon meeting in August 1986 in which Oliver North outlined the covert activities in support of the Contras that he had been supervising through the National Security Council. Armitage denied remembering anything about this meeting as well. In his final report, Walsh said he declined to prosecute Armitage for his numerous dubious statements on these issues because he could not prove they were knowingly false." http://www.inthesetimes.com/issue/25/07/naureckas2507.html "The Bush cabinet is a virtual who's who of oil, defense and pharmaceutical bigwigs.1 The Bush family is itself closely tied financially to the bin Ladens.2 , 3 Both families are involved in the Carlyle Group.4 Bush Sr. sits on the board of Carlyle, a 12 billion Equity company with oil holdings and defense contracts.5 Dick Cheney was the former CEO of Halliburton Oil. Colin Powell is a major stockholder in several defense contractors. National Security Advisor Condoleeza Rice sat on the board of Chevron. Andrew Card, the Chief of Staff is from General Motors. Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense, was CEO of Searle Pharmaceuticals. Dick Armitage, the Deputy Secretary of Defense, has ties to the Russian mafia and is a board member of Carlyle. Robert Jordan, the Saudi ambassador, was a member of Baker Botts, a legal firm specializing in oil and defense (the Baker in Baker Botts is James Baker). Tony Principi, Secretary of Foreign Affairs, comes from Lockheed Martin. Gordan England, Secretary of the Navy, is tied to General Dynamics. James Roche, Secretary of the Air Force, is from Northrop Grumman. Gen. Thomas White, retired, Secretary of the Army, is from Enron Energy. Donald Evans, the Commerce Secretary, owns Colorado Oil Company. National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice sat on the board of Exxon. And Mr. Carlucci, the Chief of Carlyle, sits on the Middle East Policy Council. 6 ""Several western oil companies [some represented by Richard Armitage] including Occidental, Shell and British Petroleum had their eyes riveted on Albania's abundant and unexplored oil deposits. Western investors were also gawking [at] Albania's extensive reserves of chrome, copper, gold, nickel and platinum"" http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/regional/KLA1.html So we've come full circle, from the earliest days of the Bush family's involvement with Nazi Germany via Brown Brothers Harriman Bank and Standard Oil/IG Farben and later, Saudi Arabia (Aramco), through to the Vietnam War and the Golden Triangle where the trade in drugs started, and then to Iran and Iran-contra and the South American drug connection, and then onto Afghanistan and finally Iraq where Dresser Industries (Brown Brothers), Brown & Root, all come together under the aegis of the Bush emperium with Halliburton as the final link. Throughout it all, key individuals have played important roles in linking together oil, guns and drugs as part of a web of business and political connections designed to further the interests of big capital. The question is, how much longer can this web of deceit be kept hidden from the public? How much longer can the mass media ignore the crimes of a dynasty that extends back through three-quarters of a century? Notes 1 The Oil behind Bush and Son's Campaigns by Ranjit Devraj, Inter Press Services, 5 October 2001. http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/DEV110A.html 2 George W. Bush's Dubious Friends , Intelligence Newsletter, 2 March 2000. http://globalresearch.ca/articles/INL110A.html 3 BUSHLADEN by Jared Israel, Emperor's Clothes; 8 October 2001. http://emperors-clothes.com/news/bushladen.htm 4 Judicial Watch: Bush/bin Laden Connection "has now turned into a scandal!", Jared Israel, Emperor's Clothes; 6 October 2001. http://emperors-clothes.com/news/jw.htm 5 The Carlyle Group , Alfred Mendes, Spectrezine. http://www.spectrezine.org/global/carlyle.htm 6 You've got to be Up Front , Mike McCormick, transcription of an interview with Stan Goff; October 24, 2001. http://narconews.com/goffmccorm= ick1.html , http://www.radio4all.net/proginfo.php?id=3D3795 Some further References Tales from the Grassy Knoll: From 1911 to 9/11 Richard Armitage Links (more links to Armitage sources) William J Casey and Iran/contra My Dream and the Color of Suffering by Michael C Ruppert 'War is Horrible. But...': Speech by US Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage, January 21 Donald Rumsfeld and Richard Armitage: background notes The Bush 100: Richard Armitage Richard Armitage's Colorful Past The Dangers of Richard Armitage The Background is Oil The Dick Cheney Deep Data Dump It's a Lie by Michael C Ruppert Secret Agent Man: Iran-contra operative Richard Armitage is now Colin Powell's No.2 Kosovo Liberation Army and Albanian Sponsors Have Well Documented Roots in The Heroin Trade The Golden Triangle Texts CIA Behind the Bushes: The New Generation The Bush-Cheney Drug Empire Bank of New York Laundromat 911 Timeline by Michael C Ruppert Main Index >> Back to I=91N=92I Index >> Previous Article >> Next Article All content on this site is copyright =A9 1987-2003 William Bowles unless otherwise stated. All rights reserved. You have the right to reproduce content if it is not-for-profit, non-commercial or =91fair use=92. For commercial reproduction, please contact the copyright owner.
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Date: 06 Jan 2009 05:37:36
From: joeturn
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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Date: 06 Jan 2009 09:14:07
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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"joeturn" <joeturn2000@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:0520afa8-b842-423e-a136-12e7861e9fda@h20g2000yqn.googlegroups.com... > Page Three Sorry bucko, every one fell asleep half way through page one. Irish Mike
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Date: 06 Jan 2009 05:30:04
From: joeturn
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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Page Two completely unchallenged. The same names crop up with tedious regularity and raise the issue that far from being the odd =91bad apple=92 or lose cannon, the individuals who now constitute the core of the Bush cabal, have been breaking the law, both domestic and international, in order to further the interests of US capitalism. But what we see now, is way beyond the =91normal=92 practices of furthering US foreign policy. What it formerly chose to hide, it is now brazenly advocates, indeed it forms the core of its policy as outlined in the PNAC and other strategic documents. But it=92s the corporations that these individuals have or had an interest in such as Halliburton, Unocal, Boeing, Chevron, Enron before its demise, and a host of other defence, electronics and pharmaceuticals corporations, that have been the principal beneficiaries of the policies of the Bush regime and of previous US administrations, especially Halliburton and the subsidiary, Brown and Root, have both been connected to the drug trade: "A closer look at available research, including an August 2, 2000 report by the Center for Public Integrity (CPI) at www.public-i.org, suggests that drug money has played a role in the successes achieved by Halliburton under Cheney's tenure as CEO from 1995 to 2000. This is especially true for Halliburton's most famous subsidiary, heavy construction and oil giant, Brown and Root. A deeper look into history reveals that Brown and Root's past as well as the past of Dick Cheney himself, connect to the international drug trade on more than one occasion and in more than one way. This June the lead Washington, D.C. attorney for a major Russian oil company connected in law enforcement reports to heroin smuggling and also a beneficiary of US backed loans to pay for Brown and Root contracts in Russia, held a $2.2 million fund raiser to fill the already bulging coffers of presidential candidate George W. Bush. This is not the first time that Brown and Root has been connected to drugs and the fact is that this "poster child" of American industry may also be a key player in Wall Street's efforts to maintain domination of the half trillion dollar a year global drug trade and its profits. And Dick Cheney, who has also come closer to drugs than most suspect, and who is also Halliburton's largest individual shareholder ($45.5 million), has a vested interest in seeing to it that Brown and Root's successes continue." Moreover, it=92s the connection between war, oil, drugs and US corporations that is the key to the Bush imperium, for without war, or preparing for one where would corporations like Halliburton be? Ever since 9/11 the profits of Halliburton have literally shot through the roof. Indeed, ever since 1990, with no country or entity to curb the ambitions of US imperialism, profits from wars of one kind or another have seen the rise of the warfare state that makes the profits made out of the Vietnam War pale into insignificance. And without the 'war on drugs', the US would not be in the position to use its economic and military clout to subvert the governments and economies of so many countries around the world. The line between the 'war on drugs' and the 'war on terror' has effectively dissolved. Linking the two wars is oil, the 'drug of choice' for US capitalism. "[E]verywhere there is oil there is Brown and Root. But increasingly, everywhere there is war or insurrection there is Brown and Root also. From Bosnia and Kosovo, to Chechnya, to Rwanda, to Burma, to Pakistan, to Laos, to Vietnam, to Indonesia, to Iran to Libya to Mexico to Colombia, Brown and Root's traditional operations have expanded from heavy construction to include the provision of logistical support for the U.S. military. Now, instead of U.S. Army quartermasters, the world is likely to see Brown and Root warehouses storing and managing everything from uniforms to rations to vehicles. "As described by the Associated Press, during "Iran-Contra" Congressman Dick Cheney of the House Intelligence Committee was a rabid supporter of Marine Lt. Col. Oliver North. This was in spite of the fact that North had lied to Cheney in a private 1986 White House briefing. Oliver North's own diaries and subsequent investigations by the CIA Inspector General have irrevocably tied him directly to cocaine smuggling during the 1980s and the opening of bank accounts for one firm moving four tons of cocaine a month. This, however, did not stop Cheney from actively supporting North's 1994 unsuccessful run for the U.S. Senate from Virginia just a year before he took over the reins at Brown and Root's parent company, Dallas based Halliburton Inc. in 1995. =85 "As the Bush Secretary of Defense during Desert Shield/Desert Storm (1990-91), Cheney also directed special operations involving Kurdish rebels in northern Iran. The Kurds' primary source of income for more than fifty years has been heroin smuggling from Afghanistan and Pakistan through Iran, Iraq and Turkey. Having had some personal experience with Brown and Root I noted carefully when the Los Angeles Times observed that on March 22, 1991 that a group of gunmen burst into the Ankara, Turkey offices of the joint venture, Vinnell, Brown and Root and assassinated retired Air Force Chief Master Sergeant John Gandy. "In March of 1991, tens of thousands of Kurdish refugees, long-time assets of the CIA, were being massacred by Saddam Hussein in the wake of the Gulf War. Saddam, seeking to destroy any hopes of a successful Kurdish revolt, found it easy to kill thousands of the unwanted Kurds who had fled to the Turkish border seeking sanctuary. There, Turkish security forces, trained in part by the Vinnell, Brown and Root partnership, turned thousands of Kurds back into certain death. Today, the Vinnell Corporation (a TRW Company) is, along with the firms MPRI and DynCorp (FTW June, 00) one of the three pre-eminent private mercenary corporations in the world. It is also the dominant entity for the training of security forces throughout the Middle East. Not surprisingly the Turkish border regions in question were the primary transhipment points for heroin, grown in Afghanistan and Pakistan and destined for the markets of Europe." http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ciadrugs/bush-cheney-drugs.html These extracts are from an article written in 2000, three years before the US invaded Iraq and before Bush the smaller stole the election. It=92s clear from the connections between all the players including Colin Powell, whose links to Iran-Contra and who is a close pal of Armitage, and the guns for drugs scandal, Halliburton, Brown and Root, Dyncorp, Vinnell Corporation go all the way back to old man Prescott Bush and his links to financing the German Nazi Party via Brown Brothers Harriman Bank that owned Dresser Industries that is now owned by Halliburton. Dresser built oil platforms in key drug routes around the world including the Gulf of Mexico. What better offloading location could one have than an oil platform. And clearly, the illegal nature of the activities of the Armitages of this world, mixing with drug smugglers, assassins, money launderers, covert arms dealers and the like, means that their actions are already thoroughly compromised. And this is critically important to my analysis because it exposes the so-called morality that the imperialists like to espouse as fundamental to their policies of supposedly supporting human rights, democracy and the like as a complete fraud. So who is Richard Armitage and why is Armitage and his peers =97 with involvements stretching back to the Vietnam War era and even before =97 suddenly back in =91favour=92? What is it that they bring to the Bush administration that makes them so important to have onboard? Power, drugs, guns, money and the connections that come with it are at the top of the list and as I hope to show, they go to the very heart of the totally corrupt regime that now runs America. Most important of all, it exposes the ruthless nature of the capitalist system, a system that takes ends justifying the means to the ultimate conclusion, that in order to preserve the system anything goes including the use of drugs as an integral part of projecting US economic and political power. Armitage is, I suppose, typical of the kind of person who does the dirty work of imperialism, whether it=92s for money, prestige or personal satisfaction. (For a complete listing of Armitage=92s financial investments see http://www.public-i.org/cgi-bin/WhosWhoSearch.asp?Display= =3DDetails&Per...) The CIA=92s involvement in drug running that started during the Vietnam War with Project Phoenix is perhaps the key to the current situation as the connections made during that period set the scene for later US involvement with the sale of drugs as means to further US foreign policy, whether as a source of finance for the illegal purchase and sale of weapons or as a means of destabilising countries and communities, or winning friends and influencing people. Colombia, Peru, Mexico, Afghanistan, Albania, Russia are just some of the countries whose economies and cultures have been taken over through the US policy of the =91war on drugs=92. "Project Phoenix=85was financed in part with opium money. It has been alleged that the close relationship with SE Asian drug dealers continued after the US withdrawal from Vietnam, with Iran used as a conduit for drugs and money. It has also been reported that, as a sequel to Project Phoenix, an off-the-books assassination program was established in Iran. "The Phoenix or Phuong Hoang Operation was originally designed to "neutralize," that is assassinate or imprison, members of the civilian infrastructure of the [Vietnamese] National Liberation Front. Phoenix offices were set up from Saigon down to the district level. Their functions were to: (1) collate intelligence about the "Vietcong Infrastructure"; (2) interrogate civilians picked up at random by military units carrying out sweeps through villages; (3) "neutralize" targeted members of the NLF . . . The original Phoenix concept was quickly diluted, for two main reasons: (1) pressure from the top to fill numerical quotas of person to be neutralized; (2) difficulties at the bottom of identifying NLF civilian infrastructure, who were often indistinguishable from the general population, and the near impossibility of proving anyone membership in the NLF. The result was vastly to increase the numbers of innocent persons rounded up and imprisoned, indiscriminately murdered, and brutally tortured in an effort to show results . . . Between 1968 and 1972 hundreds of thousands of Vietnamese civilians were rounded up and turned over to the Vietnamese police for questioning. Such interrogation has usually been marked by brutal torture. http://www.vicpeace.org/stories/03/1070.html "After four tours with the U.S. Navy in Vietnam, Armitage joined the U.S. Defense Attach=E9's Office in Saigon in 1973, just in time to play a key role in "preparing" the botched evacuation of friendly South Vietnamese. Tens of thousands of loyal partners who had worked with the Americans were abandoned to advancing North Vietnamese Army and Viet Cong forces. Never one to admit failure or duplicity, Armitage covered his own posterior by accusing the Central Intelligence Agency of wrongly predicting that a deal for an orderly pullout could be arrived at with the advancing communists and then failing to provide enough notice that Saigon was about to fall. Fresh from the debacle in Southeast Asia, Armitage went to work as a consultant for the Defense Intelligence Agency, where the quality of his work, to say the least, did not improve." http://www.yellowtimes.org/article.php?sid=3D673 Following the US withdrawal from Vietnam in 1975, Armitage joined the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) and was posted to Tehran where he excelled at not predicting the overthrow of the Shah (the man he had been assigned to keep on the throne) and even went as far as accusing the Ayotollah Khomeini of being a friend of the Soviets. "Armitage became=85a special consultant to the Department of Defense, working out of Bangkok and dealing with unrepatriated prisoners and the missing in action. Armitage also started a mysterious business called the Far East Trading Company. Meanwhile, from 1976 to 1979 in Iran, Richard Secord was supervising the sale of US military aircraft and weapons to Middle Eastern nations. During this same period, there are reports that Shackley, Clines, Secord, and Armitage set up several curious corporations and subsidiaries around the world including Lake Resources, Stanford Technology Trading Group, Compa[g]nie de Services Fiduciaria, CSF Investments and Udall Research Corporation." http://www.vicpeace.org/stories/03/1070.html In fact all the companies referred to above, were and those that still exist, are so-called proprietaries of the CIA, a fact that further reinforces the belief that during this period Armitage was in the employ of the CIA, and although we can only speculate as to his role during this period, it is generally believed that the front companies were used for CIA covert actions in Southeast Asia and later in Afghanistan and it's been suggested that the idea of using heroin as a weapon in the 'war against communism' in both Indo-China and Afghanistan was Armitage's idea. "His critics had alleged in the past that he was the author of the idea of using heroin to weaken the fighting capability of the communists in Indo-China and then in Afghanistan though the late Le Comte de Marenches, the head of the French External Intelligence Agency under Presidents George Pompidou and Giscard d'Estaing, had claimed that it was he who had given this idea to the Americans with specific reference to Afghanistan." http://www.saag.org/papers5/paper473.html 1978 saw him (officially) rejoining government when he joined the staff of Senator Robert Dole and then as an advisor to Reagan election campaign who rewarded his services in 1981 by appointing him Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for East Asia and Pacific Affairs and then in 1983 he became Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs until 1989. His speciality was special forces operations and 'counter-terrorism'. Under George Bush Snr he was made 'Special Emissary' to King Hussein of Jordan during the 1991 Gulf War. But it's Armitage's role in the 'Secret Team' that was at the heart of the Iran-contra scandal during this period that kept him out of government until Bush the smaller grabbed the throne of state when Armitage was rewarded for his loyalty by being appointed as deputy secretary of state under his old friend Colin Powell. "Armitage=85under investigation for his role in the Reagan administration's Iran-Contra scandal. Though he testified that he didn't know about the administration's secret sale of arms to Iran until November 1986, when they became public knowledge, independent counsel Lawrence Walsh's report laid out extensive evidence that he knew about them a year earlier. In fact, Armitage apparently opposed the arms sales as early as December 1985, on the grounds that Iranians were "sleazebags." Secord later testified that he met with Armitage then in an effort to change his mind. Armitage claimed not to remember meeting with Secord, though Armitage's own meeting logs show that he did. Armitage kept a December 6, 1985 document describing the legal ramifications of the Iran arms sales, entitled "Possibility for Leaks," locked in his Pentagon safe until June 1987, when it was belatedly turned over to Walsh and the congressional Iran-Contra committee. Armitage also attended a Pentagon meeting in August 1986 in which Oliver North outlined the covert activities in support of the Contras that he had been supervising through the National Security Council. Armitage denied remembering anything about this meeting as well. In his final report, Walsh said he declined to prosecute Armitage for his numerous dubious statements on these issues because he could not prove they were knowingly false." http://www.inthesetimes.com/issue/25/07/naureckas2507.html "The Bush cabinet is a virtual who's who of oil, defense and pharmaceutical bigwigs.1 The Bush family is itself closely tied financially to the bin Ladens.2 , 3 Both families are involved in the Carlyle Group.4 Bush Sr. sits on the board of Carlyle, a 12 billion Equity company with oil holdings and defense contracts.5 Dick Cheney was the former CEO of Halliburton Oil. Colin Powell is a major stockholder in several defense contractors. National Security Advisor Condoleeza Rice sat on the board of Chevron. Andrew Card, the Chief of Staff is from General Motors. Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense, was CEO of Searle Pharmaceuticals. Dick Armitage, the Deputy Secretary of Defense, has ties to the Russian mafia and is a board member of Carlyle. Robert Jordan, the Saudi ambassador, was a member of Baker Botts, a legal firm specializing in oil and defense (the Baker in Baker Botts is James Baker). Tony Principi, Secretary of Foreign Affairs, comes from Lockheed Martin. Gordan England, Secretary of the Navy, is tied to General Dynamics. James Roche, Secretary of the Air Force, is from Northrop Grumman. Gen. Thomas White, retired, Secretary of the Army, is from Enron Energy. Donald Evans, the Commerce Secretary, owns Colorado Oil Company. National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice sat on the board of Exxon. And Mr. Carlucci, the Chief of Carlyle, sits on the Middle East Policy Council. 6 ""Several western oil companies [some represented by Richard Armitage] including Occidental, Shell and British Petroleum had their eyes riveted on Albania's abundant and unexplored oil deposits. Western investors were also gawking [at] Albania's extensive reserves of chrome, copper, gold, nickel and platinum"" http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/regional/KLA1.html So we've come full circle, from the earliest days of the Bush family's involvement with Nazi Germany via Brown Brothers Harriman Bank and Standard Oil/IG Farben and later, Saudi Arabia (Aramco), through to the Vietnam War and the Golden Triangle where the trade in drugs started, and then to Iran and Iran-contra and the South American drug connection, and then onto Afghanistan and finally Iraq where Dresser Industries (Brown Brothers), Brown & Root, all come together under the aegis of the Bush emperium with Halliburton as the final link. Throughout it all, key individuals have played important roles in linking together oil, guns and drugs as part of a web of business and political connections designed to further the interests of big capital. The question is, how much longer can this web of deceit be kept hidden from the public? How much longer can the mass media ignore the crimes of a dynasty that extends back through three-quarters of a century? Notes 1 The Oil behind Bush and Son's Campaigns by Ranjit Devraj, Inter Press Services, 5 October 2001. http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/DEV110A.html 2 George W. Bush's Dubious Friends , Intelligence Newsletter, 2 March 2000. http://globalresearch.ca/articles/INL110A.html 3 BUSHLADEN by Jared Israel, Emperor's Clothes; 8 October 2001. http://emperors-clothes.com/news/bushladen.htm 4 Judicial Watch: Bush/bin Laden Connection "has now turned into a scandal!", Jared Israel, Emperor's Clothes; 6 October 2001. http://emperors-clothes.com/news/jw.htm 5 The Carlyle Group , Alfred Mendes, Spectrezine. http://www.spectrezine.org/global/carlyle.htm 6 You've got to be Up Front , Mike McCormick, transcription of an interview with Stan Goff; October 24, 2001. http://narconews.com/goffmccorm= ick1.html , http://www.radio4all.net/proginfo.php?id=3D3795 Some further References Tales from the Grassy Knoll: From 1911 to 9/11 Richard Armitage Links (more links to Armitage sources) William J Casey and Iran/contra My Dream and the Color of Suffering by Michael C Ruppert 'War is Horrible. But...': Speech by US Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage, January 21 Donald Rumsfeld and Richard Armitage: background notes The Bush 100: Richard Armitage Richard Armitage's Colorful Past The Dangers of Richard Armitage The Background is Oil The Dick Cheney Deep Data Dump It's a Lie by Michael C Ruppert Secret Agent Man: Iran-contra operative Richard Armitage is now Colin Powell's No.2 Kosovo Liberation Army and Albanian Sponsors Have Well Documented Roots in The Heroin Trade The Golden Triangle Texts CIA Behind the Bushes: The New Generation The Bush-Cheney Drug Empire Bank of New York Laundromat 911 Timeline by Michael C Ruppert Main Index >> Back to I=91N=92I Index >> Previous Article >> Next Article All content on this site is copyright =A9 1987-2003 William Bowles unless otherwise stated. All rights reserved. You have the right to reproduce content if it is not-for-profit, non-commercial or =91fair use=92. For commercial reproduction, please contact the copyright owner.
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Date: 06 Jan 2009 05:10:59
From: joeturn
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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I see noone read the link but managed to get in a free ONLINE ad Soo In order for me to get the last word in I will take up some band width and post the whole article Its really good on on the eyes that do not have blinders on it helps people to realize Organized Crime is a part of US politics and has been since before 1911 and beyond 9/11 From Adolf Hitler to George Bush Jnr, US capitalism's unbroken link Pre-amble: When I started putting this essay together, it started out as investigation of Richard Armitage as a typical example of the kind of people employed to run the United States on behalf of their imperialist masters. Then I came across a piece written in 2000 by Michael Ruppert of Beyond the Wilderness, that broadened my inquiries as the article links Kellog Brown and Root, a subsidiary of Halliburton to the worldwide distribution of drugs via the global network that Halliburton owns or operates on behalf of the US government and various corporations including major oil companies. A network that evolved over time initially through the CIA's connection to the drug trade in the Golden Triangle but which has its roots in Nazi Germany over thirty years earlier and its connection to US big business. And in the post-war period, Brown Brothers Harriman were also involved in laundering Nazi money through a Dutch-based bank. And then synchronicity kicked in, as in the middle of writing this piece, I get emailed an article in the New Hampshire Gazette that expands on the piece I included in the =91Bush Family Saga=92 on Prescott Bush, Avril Harriman and Brown Brothers Harriman Bank and its connections to the Nazi Party that it now emerges continued until 1951. What the new information reveals is that the financial connections between US and German capitalism extended even further than had been known until the new documents were released. A central player in the US/Nazi big business connection was Standard Oil of New Jersey, the Rockefellar-owned corporation that during the 1930s merged with IG. Farben, one of the major backers of Hitler's National Socialist Party and supplier of the infamous gas Cyklon B used in the extermination camps. Standard Oil (now Exxon) also owned the oil concessions in Saudi Arabia (later to be renamed Aramco). Other major players involved in the Nazi business connection include General Motors, Ford and ITT. The Bush regime is part of an unbroken link that extends back to the founding of Hitler=92s National Socialist Party through the funding it received from Brown Brothers Harriman Banking, Prescott Bush's bank and the subsequent link between this bank and Kellog Brown and Root, now a subsidiary of Halliburton and its connections to Bush through the Rumsfeld/Cheney connection and their connection to Halliburton. Brown Brothers Harriman Bank owned Dresser Industries, one of the world=92s largest oil drilling companies that in 1998, under urging from Dick Cheney was purchased by Halliburton in an $8.1 billion dollar deal. The link is complete. And yes, it is the same Brown in Brown and Root as the Brown Brothers Harriman Bank. The point is, a clique of key big business interests extending back over several generations runs the US. And that if anyone doubted that, putting it down to wild ideas of a conspiracy, you have to be blind not see it now. That Bush=92s wealth descends directly from backing the Nazi Party is incontrovertible and that the Bush family=92s involvement in the trade in drugs and weapons as an intrinsic part of the 'war on communism', later to become the 'war on terror' that extends back thirty years is also incontrovertible. But why has the current Bush administration hired so many key individuals from the Reagan/Bush years including Richard Armitage, Colonel =91Ollie=92 North, Michael Ledeen, Otto Reich and others? What was so special about a bunch of guys at the centre of the Iran-contra scandal, money laundering operations, drug smuggling and other dirty dealings going back forty years? Enter Ruppert=92s article. Ruppert=92s piece illustrates the central role that Brown and Root/ Halliburton have played as a global conduit for drugs and the central role that Halliburton/Brown and Root play in Bush=92s imperial grab for power. In this context, Armitage suddenly looks like small fry, but consider this; the people who have carried out the imperial policies of subsequent US administrations that extend back to Roosevelt in the 1930s, are people like Armitage, without whom, executing the imperium=92s plans could well be severely compromised. Why? A close-knit group of people, all with intimate ties to US intelligence services including the DEA, the CIA and the DIA as well as connections to the banking, oil and defense industries, are also people who are intimately connected to the global trade in drugs, weapons and laundered money. Links that extended to the Vatican Bank, (Banco Lavorno Nationale), BCCI and Nugan Hand. Key players in Iran-contra were also officers or had connections to these banks. Some were involved in laundering money for the CIA. The notorious S&L banking crashes of the 1980s also involved Bush family members. Deputy under-secretary of state Richard Armitage, the man who "enjoys killing" "[Richard] Armitage, a former Navy SEAL, who reportedly enjoyed combat missions and killing during covert operations in Laos during the Vietnam War, has never been far from the Bush family's side. Throughout his career, both in and out of government, he has been perpetually connected to CIA drug smuggling operations. Secretary of State Colin Powell, in a 1995 Washington Post story, called Armitage, "my white son." In 1990, then President Bush dispatched Armitage to Russia to aid in its "transition" to capitalism. Armitage's Russian work for Bush has been frequently connected to the explosion of drug trafficking under the Russian Mafias, which became virtual rulers of the nation afterwards. In the early 1990s Armitage had extensive involvement in Albania at the same time that the Albanian ally, Kosovo Liberation Army was coming to power and consolidating its grip, according to The Christian Science Monitor, on 70% of the heroin entering western Europe." http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/oct152001.html Strictly speaking, when dealing with politics, the personalities of the people involved are supposedly less important than the context, the power relations, money, class and so forth. But when it comes to the cabal of individuals grouped around the Bush presidency, many of whom have a history of involvement with assassinations, terrorism, drugs, money laundering and other illegal activities, the motivations, the psychology of the individuals involved has a direct bearing on the nature of the activities. Such is the case with people like Richard Armitage although there are others such as Otto Reich, Michael Ledeen and Colonel =91Ollie=92 North. In fact, the list is so big, and stretches back through the administrations of several successive US presidents, that the relationship between the policies and the individuals has to be viewed as inseparable. One could justifiably argue that breaking the law in order to further US policies is now inseparable part of =91doing business=92. South East Asia, oil, guns and drugs; Nicaragua guns and drugs; Iran, oil and guns; Israel, guns and oil; Iraq, guns and oil; Saudi Arabia, guns and oil; Albania, drugs and oil; Russia oil and drugs, Central and South America, guns, drugs and oil. In all of these situations the name Richard Armitage crops up time and again over more than thirty years of loyal service to US capitalism. Outrageous? The global trade in cocaine and heroin is estimated at around $500 BILLION and no doubt this is an under-estimate. The US is the major market for drugs just as it is for oil and in turn it is the world=92s number one seller of weapons. Is it any wonder that the three commodities go hand in hand and that the US should be at centre of the global trade in these three valuable commodities. "Noting the indiscreet arrogance of Wall Street in engaging in criminal behavior, I wrote in May's issue, after Citigroup's brazen acquisition of Mexico's drug money-laundering bank, Banamex, "It doesn't matter anymore whether the American public chooses to notice. The fait accompli is that drug money and criminal money are now out of the closet as the most important determinants of economic success for the US financial system. The careless arrogance of these moves only reveals the utter confidence in Washington, on Wall Street and in the banking system that no voices from the wilderness can stop it." Michael Ruppert http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/oct152001.html What started out as an intrinsic component of the =91war on Communism=92 has its logical conclusion in the =91war on terror' and oil, guns and drugs are the threads that tie the current Bush administration to over three decades of international piracy and terrorism that forms the backdrop for the current policies of the Bush regime. That the US uses the tactics that it accuses its enemies of using should come as no surprise, especially when we consider that the supposed enemies of the US are more often than not its creatures, some of whom have returned to haunt it and especially the cocaine barons. It should also come as no surprise that the corporate media in both the US and the UK have a vested interest in covering up this shameful past, for to do otherwise would expose the cosy relationship that exists between the media and corporate capitalism. Exposing it now would also expose the hypocrisy of the 4th estate and its complicity in deceiving us all. And even as I write, the BBC quotes Armitage as he calls for intensifying the =91war on terrorism=92 as though he were =91just a diplomat=92, completely ignoring the man=92s past record and the total airbrushing of history in the classic Stalin mode that goes completely unchallenged. The same names crop up with tedious regularity and raise the issue that far from being the odd =91bad apple=92 or lose cannon, the individuals who now constitute the core of the Bush cabal, have been breaking the law, both domestic and international, in order to further the interests of US capitalism. But what we see now, is way beyond the =91normal=92 practices of furthering US foreign policy. What it formerly chose to hide, it is now brazenly advocates, indeed it forms the core of its policy as outlined in the PNAC and other strategic documents. But it=92s the corporations that these individuals have or had an interest in such as Halliburton, Unocal, Boeing, Chevron, Enron before its demise, and a host of other defence, electronics and pharmaceuticals corporations, that have been the principal beneficiaries of the policies of the Bush regime and of previous US administrations, especially Halliburton and the subsidiary, Brown and Root, have both been connected to the drug trade: "A closer look at available research, including an August 2, 2000 report by the Center for Public Integrity (CPI) at www.public-i.org, suggests that drug money has played a role in the successes achieved by Halliburton under Cheney's tenure as CEO from 1995 to 2000. This is especially true for Halliburton's most famous subsidiary, heavy construction and oil giant, Brown and Root. A deeper look into history reveals that Brown and Root's past as well as the past of Dick Cheney himself, connect to the international drug trade on more than one occasion and in more than one way. This June the lead Washington, D.C. attorney for a major Russian oil company connected in law enforcement reports to heroin smuggling and also a beneficiary of US backed loans to pay for Brown and Root contracts in Russia, held a $2.2 million fund raiser to fill the already bulging coffers of presidential candidate George W. Bush. This is not the first time that Brown and Root has been connected to drugs and the fact is that this "poster child" of American industry may also be a key player in Wall Street's efforts to maintain domination of the half trillion dollar a year global drug trade and its profits. And Dick Cheney, who has also come closer to drugs than most suspect, and who is also Halliburton's largest individual shareholder ($45.5 million), has a vested interest in seeing to it that Brown and Root's successes continue." Moreover, it=92s the connection between war, oil, drugs and US corporations that is the key to the Bush imperium, for without war, or preparing for one where would corporations like Halliburton be? Ever since 9/11 the profits of Halliburton have literally shot through the roof. Indeed, ever since 1990, with no country or entity to curb the ambitions of US imperialism, profits from wars of one kind or another have seen the rise of the warfare state that makes the profits made out of the Vietnam War pale into insignificance. And without the 'war on drugs', the US would not be in the position to use its economic and military clout to subvert the governments and economies of so many countries around the world. The line between the 'war on drugs' and the 'war on terror' has effectively dissolved. Linking the two wars is oil, the 'drug of choice' for US capitalism. "[E]verywhere there is oil there is Brown and Root. But increasingly, everywhere there is war or insurrection there is Brown and Root also. From Bosnia and Kosovo, to Chechnya, to Rwanda, to Burma, to Pakistan, to Laos, to Vietnam, to Indonesia, to Iran to Libya to Mexico to Colombia, Brown and Root's traditional operations have expanded from heavy construction to include the provision of logistical support for the U.S. military. Now, instead of U.S. Army quartermasters, the world is likely to see Brown and Root warehouses storing and managing everything from uniforms to rations to vehicles. "As described by the Associated Press, during "Iran-Contra" Congressman Dick Cheney of the House Intelligence Committee was a rabid supporter of Marine Lt. Col. Oliver North. This was in spite of the fact that North had lied to Cheney in a private 1986 White House briefing. Oliver North's own diaries and subsequent investigations by the CIA Inspector General have irrevocably tied him directly to cocaine smuggling during the 1980s and the opening of bank accounts for one firm moving four tons of cocaine a month. This, however, did not stop Cheney from actively supporting North's 1994 unsuccessful run for the U.S. Senate from Virginia just a year before he took over the reins at Brown and Root's parent company, Dallas based Halliburton Inc. in 1995. =85 "As the Bush Secretary of Defense during Desert Shield/Desert Storm (1990-91), Cheney also directed special operations involving Kurdish rebels in northern Iran. The Kurds' primary source of income for more than fifty years has been heroin smuggling from Afghanistan and Pakistan through Iran, Iraq and Turkey. Having had some personal experience with Brown and Root I noted carefully when the Los Angeles Times observed that on March 22, 1991 that a group of gunmen burst into the Ankara, Turkey offices of the joint venture, Vinnell, Brown and Root and assassinated retired Air Force Chief Master Sergeant John Gandy. "In March of 1991, tens of thousands of Kurdish refugees, long-time assets of the CIA, were being massacred by Saddam Hussein in the wake of the Gulf War. Saddam, seeking to destroy any hopes of a successful Kurdish revolt, found it easy to kill thousands of the unwanted Kurds who had fled to the Turkish border seeking sanctuary. There, Turkish security forces, trained in part by the Vinnell, Brown and Root partnership, turned thousands of Kurds back into certain death. Today, the Vinnell Corporation (a TRW Company) is, along with the firms MPRI and DynCorp (FTW June, 00) one of the three pre-eminent private mercenary corporations in the world. It is also the dominant entity for the training of security forces throughout the Middle East. Not surprisingly the Turkish border regions in question were the primary transhipment points for heroin, grown in Afghanistan and Pakistan and destined for the markets of Europe." http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ciadrugs/bush-cheney-drugs.html These extracts are from an article written in 2000, three years before the US invaded Iraq and before Bush the smaller stole the election. It=92s clear from the connections between all the players including Colin Powell, whose links to Iran-Contra and who is a close pal of Armitage, and the guns for drugs scandal, Halliburton, Brown and Root, Dyncorp, Vinnell Corporation go all the way back to old man Prescott Bush and his links to financing the German Nazi Party via Brown Brothers Harriman Bank that owned Dresser Industries that is now owned by Halliburton. Dresser built oil platforms in key drug routes around the world including the Gulf of Mexico. What better offloading location could one have than an oil platform. And clearly, the illegal nature of the activities of the Armitages of this world, mixing with drug smugglers, assassins, money launderers, covert arms dealers and the like, means that their actions are already thoroughly compromised. And this is critically important to my analysis because it exposes the so-called morality that the imperialists like to espouse as fundamental to their policies of supposedly supporting human rights, democracy and the like as a complete fraud. So who is Richard Armitage and why is Armitage and his peers =97 with involvements stretching back to the Vietnam War era and even before =97 suddenly back in =91favour=92? What is it that they bring to the Bush administration that makes them so important to have onboard? Power, drugs, guns, money and the connections that come with it are at the top of the list and as I hope to show, they go to the very heart of the totally corrupt regime that now runs America. Most important of all, it exposes the ruthless nature of the capitalist system, a system that takes ends justifying the means to the ultimate conclusion, that in order to preserve the system anything goes including the use of drugs as an integral part of projecting US economic and political power. Armitage is, I suppose, typical of the kind of person who does the dirty work of imperialism, whether it=92s for money, prestige or personal satisfaction. (For a complete listing of Armitage=92s financial investments see http://www.public-i.org/cgi-bin/WhosWhoSearch.asp?Display= =3DDetails&Person_ID=3D1007) The CIA=92s involvement in drug running that started during the Vietnam War with Project Phoenix is perhaps the key to the current situation as the connections made during that period set the scene for later US involvement with the sale of drugs as means to further US foreign policy, whether as a source of finance for the illegal purchase and sale of weapons or as a means of destabilising countries and communities, or winning friends and influencing people. Colombia, Peru, Mexico, Afghanistan, Albania, Russia are just some of the countries whose economies and cultures have been taken over through the US policy of the =91war on drugs=92. "Project Phoenix=85was financed in part with opium money. It has been alleged that the close relationship with SE Asian drug dealers continued after the US withdrawal from Vietnam, with Iran used as a conduit for drugs and money. It has also been reported that, as a sequel to Project Phoenix, an off-the-books assassination program was established in Iran. "The Phoenix or Phuong Hoang Operation was originally designed to "neutralize," that is assassinate or imprison, members of the civilian infrastructure of the [Vietnamese] National Liberation Front. Phoenix offices were set up from Saigon down to the district level. Their functions were to: (1) collate intelligence about the "Vietcong Infrastructure"; (2) interrogate civilians picked up at random by military units carrying out sweeps through villages; (3) "neutralize" targeted members of the NLF . . . The original Phoenix concept was quickly diluted, for two main reasons: (1) pressure from the top to fill numerical quotas of person to be neutralized; (2) difficulties at the bottom of identifying NLF civilian infrastructure, who were often indistinguishable from the general population, and the near impossibility of proving anyone membership in the NLF. The result was vastly to increase the numbers of innocent persons rounded up and imprisoned, indiscriminately murdered, and brutally tortured in an effort to show results . . . Between 1968 and 1972 hundreds of thousands of Vietnamese civilians were rounded up and turned over to the Vietnamese police for questioning. Such interrogation has usually been marked by brutal torture. http://www.vicpeace.org/stories/03/1070.html "After four tours with the U.S. Navy in Vietnam, Armitage joined the U.S. Defense Attach=E9's Office in Saigon in 1973, just in time to play a key role in "preparing" the botched evacuation of friendly South Vietnamese. Tens of thousands of loyal partners who had worked with the Americans were abandoned to advancing North Vietnamese Army and Viet Cong forces. Never one to admit failure or duplicity, Armitage covered his own posterior by accusing the Central Intelligence Agency of wrongly predicting that a deal for an orderly pullout could be arrived at with the advancing communists and then failing to provide enough notice that Saigon was about to fall. Fresh from the debacle in Southeast Asia, Armitage went to work as a consultant for the Defense Intelligence Agency, where the quality of his work, to say the least, did not improve." http://www.yellowtimes.org/article.php?sid=3D673 Following the US withdrawal from Vietnam in 1975, Armitage joined the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) and was posted to Tehran where he excelled at not predicting the overthrow of the Shah (the man he had been assigned to keep on the throne) and even went as far as accusing the Ayotollah Khomeini of being a friend of the Soviets. "Armitage became=85a special consultant to the Department of Defense, working out of Bangkok and dealing with unrepatriated prisoners and the missing in action. Armitage also started a mysterious business called the Far East Trading Company. Meanwhile, from 1976 to 1979 in Iran, Richard Secord was supervising the sale of US military aircraft and weapons to Middle Eastern nations. During this same period, there are reports that Shackley, Clines, Secord, and Armitage set up several curious corporations and subsidiaries around the world including Lake Resources, Stanford Technology Trading Group, Compa[g]nie de Services Fiduciaria, CSF Investments and Udall Research Corporation." http://www.vicpeace.org/stories/03/1070.html In fact all the companies referred to above, were and those that still exist, are so-called proprietaries of the CIA, a fact that further reinforces the belief that during this period Armitage was in the employ of the CIA, and although we can only speculate as to his role during this period, it is generally believed that the front companies were used for CIA covert actions in Southeast Asia and later in Afghanistan and it's been suggested that the idea of using heroin as a weapon in the 'war against communism' in both Indo-China and Afghanistan was Armitage's idea. "His critics had alleged in the past that he was the author of the idea of using heroin to weaken the fighting capability of the communists in Indo-China and then in Afghanistan though the late Le Comte de Marenches, the head of the French External Intelligence Agency under Presidents George Pompidou and Giscard d'Estaing, had claimed that it was he who had given this idea to the Americans with specific reference to Afghanistan." http://www.saag.org/papers5/paper473.html 1978 saw him (officially) rejoining government when he joined the staff of Senator Robert Dole and then as an advisor to Reagan election campaign who rewarded his services in 1981 by appointing him Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for East Asia and Pacific Affairs and then in 1983 he became Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs until 1989. His speciality was special forces operations and 'counter-terrorism'. Under George Bush Snr he was made 'Special Emissary' to King Hussein of Jordan during the 1991 Gulf War. But it's Armitage's role in the 'Secret Team' that was at the heart of the Iran-contra scandal during this period that kept him out of government until Bush the smaller grabbed the throne of state when Armitage was rewarded for his loyalty by being appointed as deputy secretary of state under his old friend Colin Powell. "Armitage=85under investigation for his role in the Reagan administration's Iran-Contra scandal. Though he testified that he didn't know about the administration's secret sale of arms to Iran until November 1986, when they became public knowledge, independent counsel Lawrence Walsh's report laid out extensive evidence that he knew about them a year earlier. In fact, Armitage apparently opposed the arms sales as early as December 1985, on the grounds that Iranians were "sleazebags." Secord later testified that he met with Armitage then in an effort to change his mind. Armitage claimed not to remember meeting with Secord, though Armitage's own meeting logs show that he did. Armitage kept a December 6, 1985 document describing the legal ramifications of the Iran arms sales, entitled "Possibility for Leaks," locked in his Pentagon safe until June 1987, when it was belatedly turned over to Walsh and the congressional Iran-Contra committee. Armitage also attended a Pentagon meeting in August 1986 in which Oliver North outlined the covert activities in support of the Contras that he had been supervising through the National Security Council. Armitage denied remembering anything about this meeting as well. In his final report, Walsh said he declined to prosecute Armitage for his numerous dubious statements on these issues because he could not prove they were knowingly false." http://www.inthesetimes.com/issue/25/07/naureckas2507.html "The Bush cabinet is a virtual who's who of oil, defense and pharmaceutical bigwigs.1 The Bush family is itself closely tied financially to the bin Ladens.2 , 3 Both families are involved in the Carlyle Group.4 Bush Sr. sits on the board of Carlyle, a 12 billion Equity company with oil holdings and defense contracts.5 Dick Cheney was the former CEO of Halliburton Oil. Colin Powell is a major stockholder in several defense contractors. National Security Advisor Condoleeza Rice sat on the board of Chevron. Andrew Card, the Chief of Staff is from General Motors. Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense, was CEO of Searle Pharmaceuticals. Dick Armitage, the Deputy Secretary of Defense, has ties to the Russian mafia and is a board member of Carlyle. Robert Jordan, the Saudi ambassador, was a member of Baker Botts, a legal firm specializing in oil and defense (the Baker in Baker Botts is James Baker). Tony Principi, Secretary of Foreign Affairs, comes from Lockheed Martin. Gordan England, Secretary of the Navy, is tied to General Dynamics. James Roche, Secretary of the Air Force, is from Northrop Grumman. Gen. Thomas White, retired, Secretary of the Army, is from Enron Energy. Donald Evans, the Commerce Secretary, owns Colorado Oil Company. National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice sat on the board of Exxon. And Mr. Carlucci, the Chief of Carlyle, sits on the Middle East Policy Council. 6 ""Several western oil companies [some represented by Richard Armitage] including Occidental, Shell and British Petroleum had their eyes riveted on Albania's abundant and unexplored oil deposits. Western investors were also gawking [at] Albania's extensive reserves of chrome, copper, gold, nickel and platinum"" http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/regional/KLA1.html So we've come full circle, from the earliest days of the Bush family's involvement with Nazi Germany via Brown Brothers Harriman Bank and Standard Oil/IG Farben and later, Saudi Arabia (Aramco), through to the Vietnam War and the Golden Triangle where the trade in drugs started, and then to Iran and Iran-contra and the South American drug connection, and then onto Afghanistan and finally Iraq where Dresser Industries (Brown Brothers), Brown & Root, all come together under the aegis of the Bush emperium with Halliburton as the final link. Throughout it all, key individuals have played important roles in linking together oil, guns and drugs as part of a web of business and political connections designed to further the interests of big capital. The question is, how much longer can this web of deceit be kept hidden from the public? How much longer can the mass media ignore the crimes of a dynasty that extends back through three-quarters of a century? Notes 1 The Oil behind Bush and Son's Campaigns by Ranjit Devraj, Inter Press Services, 5 October 2001. http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/DEV110A.html 2 George W. Bush's Dubious Friends , Intelligence Newsletter, 2 March 2000. http://globalresearch.ca/articles/INL110A.html 3 BUSHLADEN by Jared Israel, Emperor's Clothes; 8 October 2001. http://emperors-clothes.com/news/bushladen.htm 4 Judicial Watch: Bush/bin Laden Connection "has now turned into a scandal!", Jared Israel, Emperor's Clothes; 6 October 2001. http://emperors-clothes.com/news/jw.htm 5 The Carlyle Group , Alfred Mendes, Spectrezine. http://www.spectrezine.org/global/carlyle.htm 6 You've got to be Up Front , Mike McCormick, transcription of an interview with Stan Goff; October 24, 2001. http://narconews.com/goffmccorm= ick1.html , http://www.radio4all.net/proginfo.php?id=3D3795 Some further References Tales from the Grassy Knoll: From 1911 to 9/11 Richard Armitage Links (more links to Armitage sources) William J Casey and Iran/contra My Dream and the Color of Suffering by Michael C Ruppert 'War is Horrible. But...': Speech by US Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage, January 21 Donald Rumsfeld and Richard Armitage: background notes The Bush 100: Richard Armitage Richard Armitage's Colorful Past The Dangers of Richard Armitage The Background is Oil The Dick Cheney Deep Data Dump It's a Lie by Michael C Ruppert Secret Agent Man: Iran-contra operative Richard Armitage is now Colin Powell's No.2 Kosovo Liberation Army and Albanian Sponsors Have Well Documented Roots in The Heroin Trade The Golden Triangle Texts CIA Behind the Bushes: The New Generation The Bush-Cheney Drug Empire Bank of New York Laundromat 911 Timeline by Michael C Ruppert Main Index >> Back to I=91N=92I Index >> Previous Article >> Next Article All content on this site is copyright =A9 1987-2003 William Bowles unless otherwise stated. All rights reserved. You have the right to reproduce content if it is not-for-profit, non-commercial or =91fair use=92. For commercial reproduction, please contact the copyright owner.
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Date: 04 Jan 2009 01:12:14
From: Pepe Papon
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 09:43:30 -0500, "Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net > wrote: >When the financial collapse first hit, I thought it was McCain's ticket to >the white house for these reasons: More evidence that you have no idea what you're talking about.
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Date: 04 Jan 2009 01:07:46
From: poker widow
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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You really swallowed all that eh Mike? and not even a mention of the fact that 2 days before the financial collapse MCCain said that" our economy was fundamentally sound" that really sounds like a guy with his hand on the pulse of the nation. haha he had no answers... also don't forget for the last 2 years the Dems hands were tied by vetoes. check the records.. their bills got vetoed. On Jan 3 2009 9:43 AM, Irish Mike wrote: > There were many factors that contributed to John McCain's loss: > > McCain and Obama both agreed to stick to public campaign financing. When > Obama saw how much money he was raising, he broke his word and out-spent > McCain by about five to one. > > The liberal main stream media and the Hollywood liberal celebrities fell in > love with Obama and handled him with kid gloves through out his campaign. > John McCain assisted Obama by refusing to capitalize on the Jeremiah Wright > fiasco. > > People were tired of President Bush and tired of the Iraq war. The fact > that Bush was a lousy communicator only made things worse. > > However, the turning point of the election was the mid-September financial > crash. Immediately preceding that event, McCain/Palin were leading in the > polls in nearly all the swing states and still had momentum from the RNC. > When the financial collapse first hit, I thought it was McCain's ticket to > the white house for these reasons: > > First, McCain had warned against F-MAE and F-MAC's increasing involvement in > the whole subprime mortgage mess. And it was Bill Clinton who required that > these organizations have up to 50% of their multi-billion dollar portfolios > made up of these high risk subprime loans. > > Second, the Democrats had been in charge of all the congressional banking > and finance committees for the past two years. Between 8/07 and 8/08, under > Barney Frank and Chris Dodd's "leadership" F-MAE and F-MAC lost 90% of its > stock value. > > Third, at the time McCain was warning congress about the danger of subprime > loans at F-MAE and F-MAC, Obama was an arm twister for ACORN and playing the > race card on any Illinois bank that refused to make high risk loans to > unqualified minority borrowers. And, Obama helped ACORN file a law suit > against a finance company, which resulted in banks lowering their lending > standards for high risk subprime mortgages all across the country. Not to > mention that Obama's campaign advisor (Raines) had personally made $90 > million plus while running F-MAE and F-MAC straight in to the ground. > > Fourth, Obama had jumped on the bandwagon to provide the $700 billion + bail > out and this was in addition to his plans to raise taxes and his repeated > promises to greatly increases spending to fund new welfare, entitlement and > give away programs. > > So to me, it seemed a perfect opportunity for McCain. I thought McCain > would really hammer Obama and the Democrats with these facts and vote > against the $700 billion+ bailout. I thought McCain would come out with a > clear financial plan of tax cuts for middle class tax payers, businesses, > corporations and at least a two year suspension of the capital gains tax. > That he would explain that, painful as it might be, we had to let the market > correct itself and that we could not tax and spend our way out of a > recession. Equally important , that McCain would pledge to investigate and > fully prosecute those responsible - including Wall Street crooks and the > Washington politicians. > > But I was wrong. Sadly, McCain let Obama and the Democrats slide, stopped > his campaign, went back to Washington and meekly voted yes for the bail out. > It was the strategic blunder that cost him the election . > > One final note for all you Obama fans. Think about this. As unpopular as > Bush was. As unpopular as the Iraq war was. After out-spending McCain five > to one. After all of McCain's campaign blunders. After having the main > stream liberal media in the tank for him through out his whole campaign. > After the biggest financial disaster since the Great Depression. After all > that, Obama still only won by 7 million votes and 55+ million of us voted > against him. > > Irish Mike ______________________________________________________________________ looking for a better newsgroup-reader? - www.recgroups.com
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Date: 06 Jan 2009 05:57:05
From: Bob T.
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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On Jan 4, 9:14=A0am, "DaVoice" <davoice...@cox.net > wrote: > "Bob T." <b...@synapse-cs.com> wrote > > >Yeah, 'cause a conservative right-wing loon would never shout out > >talking points without checking the FACTS. > >Rick, it's posts like this that make me pity you and want to pray for > >you. > > First off, Bob. =A0I never said there weren't idiots on the right who do = the > same thing, but I notice that you snipped the seminal part of my post and > the point I was making with it. =A0Poker Widow said "Bush tied Congress' = hands > with vetoes, he vetoed everything" (paraphrased) and I posted REAL LIVE > STATISTICS that refuted that. > > There are "blowhardbots" on both sides that just take the daily talking > points and run out to the SHEEPLE and preach it loud and proud. =A0They'r= e > idiots, whether they're on the right or the left, if they don't think and > research for themselves before spreading the "message". When you said: "Probably because liberals and left-wing loons just get their talking points and run out the door spouting and shouting them out loud to anyone who will listen, and the American SHEEPLE just listen, and believe without considering the source, or checking the FACTS." You were being a blowhardbot yourself and I called you on it. I did not say anything about your veto analysis because you were correctly refuting a silly statement. - Bob T. > > -- > Rick "ADB DaVoice" Charles
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Date: 04 Jan 2009 07:18:09
From: Bob T.
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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On Jan 4, 7:01=A0am, "DaVoice" <davoice...@cox.net > wrote: > > Probably because liberals and left-wing loons just get their talking poin= ts > and run out the door spouting and shouting them out loud to anyone who wi= ll > listen, and the American SHEEPLE just listen, and believe without > considering the source, or checking the FACTS. Yeah, 'cause a conservative right-wing loon would never shout out talking points without checking the FACTS. Rick, it's posts like this that make me pity you and want to pray for you. - Bob T. > -- > Rick "ADB DaVoice" Charles > > begin 666 spacer.gif > K1TE&.#EA`0`!`( ``````````"'Y! $`````+ `````!``$```("1 $`.P`` > ` > end
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Date: 04 Jan 2009 09:14:07
From: DaVoice
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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"Bob T." <bob@synapse-cs.com > wrote >Yeah, 'cause a conservative right-wing loon would never shout out >talking points without checking the FACTS. >Rick, it's posts like this that make me pity you and want to pray for >you. First off, Bob. I never said there weren't idiots on the right who do the same thing, but I notice that you snipped the seminal part of my post and the point I was making with it. Poker Widow said "Bush tied Congress' hands with vetoes, he vetoed everything" (paraphrased) and I posted REAL LIVE STATISTICS that refuted that. There are "blowhardbots" on both sides that just take the daily talking points and run out to the SHEEPLE and preach it loud and proud. They're idiots, whether they're on the right or the left, if they don't think and research for themselves before spreading the "message". -- Rick "ADB DaVoice" Charles
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Date: 04 Jan 2009 07:01:47
From: DaVoice
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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"poker widow" <a5be621@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message news:2sa636xbup.ln2@recgroups.com... > You really swallowed all that eh Mike? and not even a mention of the fact > that 2 days before the financial collapse MCCain said that" our economy > was fundamentally sound" > that really sounds like a guy with his hand on the pulse of the nation. > haha > he had no answers... > also don't forget for the last 2 years the Dems hands were tied by vetoes. > check the records.. their bills got vetoed. Ok, here ARE the records: (only using last two Congresses for comparison, because Bush didn't use the Veto in either of the first two Congresses during his Presidency, and Carter who only had two congresses to deal with and huge Dem majority in both houses) George W. Bush, Republican and his last two congresses: 109th Congress House R's 53.3% Senate R's 55% Total Vetoes 1 Regular 1 Pocket Vetoes 0 Overrides 0 success rate100% 110th Congress House R's 46.4% Senate R's 49% Total V's 11 Reg. 10 Pocket 1 Overrides 4 success rate 60.0% William J. Clinton, Democrat and his last two congresses 105th Congress House Dems 47.4% Senate Dems 45% Total 8 Regular 8 Pocket 0 overrides 1 Success rate 87.5% 106th Congress House Dems 48.5% Senate Dems 45% Total 12 Regular 11 Pocket 1 overrides 0 Success rate 100% Just for comparison ... How about Jimmy? Jimmy Carter, Democrat and his two congresses: 95th Congress House Dems 67.1% Senate Dems 61% Total 19 Regular 6 Pocket 13 Overrides 0 success rates 100% 96th Congress House Dems 63.7% Senate Dems 58% Total 12 Regular 7 Pocket 5 overrides 2 success rate 71.4% Now let's look at total Vetoes while in office William J. Clinton Totals 37 regular 36 pocket 1 Overrides 2 success 94.4% George W. Bush Totals 12 regular 11 pocket 1 Overrides 4 success 63.6% SOURCE: http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/data/vetoes.php Damn that Bush, what an obstructionist...ROFLMFAO He "vetoed everything and tied congresses hands" according to Poker Widow. Why do people who don't know wtf they're talking about RESEARCH something before spouting off about it? Probably because liberals and left-wing loons just get their talking points and run out the door spouting and shouting them out loud to anyone who will listen, and the American SHEEPLE just listen, and believe without considering the source, or checking the FACTS. -- Rick "ADB DaVoice" Charles begin 666 spacer.gif K1TE&.#EA`0`!`( ``````````"'Y! $`````+ `````!``$```("1 $`.P`` ` end
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Date: 04 Jan 2009 04:03:29
From: N. Silver
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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Irish Mike wrote: > After all that, Obama still only won by 7 million votes and 55+ million of > us voted against him. One can never underestimate the intelligence of the masses.
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Date: 03 Jan 2009 15:15:22
From: Deadmoney Walking
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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On Jan 3, 9:43=A0am, "Irish Mike" <mjos...@ameritech.net > wrote: > There were many factors that contributed to John McCain's loss: > > McCain and Obama both agreed to stick to public campaign financing. =A0Wh= en > Obama saw how much money he was raising, he broke his word and out-spent > McCain by about five to one. > > The liberal main stream media and the Hollywood liberal celebrities fell = in > love with Obama and handled him with kid gloves through out his campaign. > John McCain assisted Obama by refusing to capitalize on the Jeremiah Wrig= ht > fiasco. > > People were tired of President Bush and tired of the Iraq war. =A0The fac= t > that Bush was a lousy communicator only made things worse. > > However, the turning point of the election was the mid-September financia= l > crash. =A0Immediately preceding that event, McCain/Palin were leading in = the > polls in nearly all the swing states and still had momentum from the RNC. > When the financial collapse first hit, I thought it was McCain's ticket t= o > the white house for these reasons: > > First, McCain had warned against F-MAE and F-MAC's increasing involvement= in > the whole subprime mortgage mess. =A0And it was Bill Clinton who required= that > these organizations have up to 50% of their multi-billion dollar portfoli= os > made up of these high risk subprime loans. > > Second, the Democrats had been in charge of all the congressional banking > and finance committees for the past two years. =A0Between 8/07 and 8/08, = under > Barney Frank and Chris Dodd's "leadership" F-MAE and F-MAC lost 90% of it= s > stock value. > > Third, at the time McCain was warning congress about the danger of subpri= me > loans at F-MAE and F-MAC, Obama was an arm twister for ACORN and playing = the > race card on any Illinois bank that refused to make high risk loans to > unqualified minority borrowers. =A0And, Obama helped ACORN file a law sui= t > against a finance company, which resulted in banks lowering their lending > standards for high risk subprime mortgages all across the country. =A0Not= to > mention that Obama's campaign advisor (Raines) had personally made $90 > million plus while running F-MAE and F-MAC straight in to the ground. > > Fourth, Obama had jumped on the bandwagon to provide the $700 billion + b= ail > out and this was in addition to his plans to raise taxes and his repeated > promises to greatly increases spending to fund new welfare, entitlement a= nd > give away programs. > > So to me, it seemed a perfect opportunity for McCain. =A0I thought McCain > would really hammer Obama and the Democrats with these facts and vote > against the $700 billion+ bailout. =A0I thought McCain would come out wit= h a > clear financial plan of tax cuts for middle class tax payers, businesses, > corporations and at least a two year suspension of the capital gains tax. > That he would explain that, painful as it might be, we had to let the mar= ket > correct itself and that we could not tax and spend our way out of a > recession. =A0Equally important , that McCain would pledge to investigate= and > fully prosecute those responsible - including Wall Street crooks and the > Washington politicians. > > But I was wrong. =A0Sadly, McCain let Obama and the Democrats slide, stop= ped > his campaign, went back to Washington and meekly voted yes for the bail o= ut. > It was the strategic blunder that cost him the election . > > One final note for all you Obama fans. =A0Think about this. =A0As unpopul= ar as > Bush was. =A0As unpopular as the Iraq war was. =A0After out-spending McCa= in five > to one. =A0 After all of McCain's campaign blunders. =A0After having the = main > stream liberal media in the tank for him through out his whole campaign. > After the biggest financial disaster since the Great Depression. =A0After= all > that, Obama still only won by 7 million votes and 55+ million of us voted > against him. > > Irish Mike Good points, nice post. I'll always wonder what would have happened if McCain had come out against the bail out.
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Date: 04 Jan 2009 03:07:24
From: Beldin the Sorcerer
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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"Deadmoney Walking" <tbonesays@gmail.com > wrote in message news:53f3d1f7-802d-4c54-92fe-73e0f4eea354@d36g2000prf.googlegroups.com... On Jan 3, 9:43 am, "Irish Mike" <mjos...@ameritech.net > wrote: > Good points, nice post. I'll always wonder what would have happened if McCain had come out against the bail out. *** He'd have lost by 30 points.
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Date: 03 Jan 2009 07:47:58
From: Jerry Sturdivant
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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"Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net > wrote > There were many factors that contributed > to John McCain's loss: Some were major; some were minor. > McCain and Obama both agreed to stick to public campaign > financing. When Obama saw how much money he was raising, > he broke his word and out-spent McCain by about five to one. Wouldn’t you? Had Obama not changed, he’d be considered an idiot. > The liberal main stream media … “Liberal media” is a fallacy that’s been disproved over and over and again needs its own discussion. You might start by watching this: http://www.outfoxed.org > and the Hollywood liberal celebrities fell in love with Obama > and handled him with kid gloves through out his campaign. And why not? Who the hell wanted to stay with a failing administration run by an AWOL, lying idiot? > John McCain assisted Obama by refusing to > capitalize on the Jeremiah Wright fiasco. Capitalized on what? His preacher was nuts. You’re blaming Obama for that? > People were tired of President Bush and tired of the Iraq war. BINGO! > The fact that Bush was a lousy communicator > only made things worse. BINGO 2 > However, the turning point of the election > was the mid-September financial crash. And rightly so as the house of cards and Bush’s trillion-dollar debt came tumbling down. > First, McCain had warned against F-MAE and F-MAC's increasing > involvement in the whole subprime mortgage mess. Whoa! McCain was part and parcel of the GOP deregulation that caused this problem. The banks and Wall Street were making millions and dumping (by deregulation) it into AA AAA bonds as ‘good stuff.’ McCain was for deregulation all the way: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4egXbhSOhk > Second, the Democrats had been in charge of all the congressional > banking and finance committees for the past two years. > Between 8/07 and 8/08, under Barney Frank and Chris Dodd's > "leadership" F-MAE and F-MAC lost 90% of its stock value. From the previous 6-years of GOP deregulation that put us in the mess. > Third, at the time McCain was warning congress about the > danger of subprime loans at F-MAE and F-MAC, I’ve covered that error… > Obama was an arm twister for ACORN … Let me (with help) straighten you out on the ACORN thing. The Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now. Conservative lawmakers were able to remove a provision aimed at aiding low-income housing programs from the Bush administration’s $700 billion economic bailout bill by calling it a "slush fund." <http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2008/10/01/conservatives-acorn > for ACORN. Before that, conservatives blamed ACORN for "precipitating the subprime crisis." And they alleged that the "purpose" of ACORN is to engage in voter fraud. However, as columnist Joel McNally correctly noted, the "underlying motive for attacking ACORN" seems to be that it is the "nation's largest grassroots community organization of low- and moderate-income people." "It is an organization that engages in that dreaded community organizing," McNally wrote. "It actually tries to give a voice to the poor and most vulnerable among us." Indeed, after years of enacting policies catering to the wealthy, the right-wing of millions of new low-income voters registered by ACORN casting their ballots in favor of progressive policies. In early October, ACORN announced that it had registered 1.3 million new voters for the November election. Seizing on reports of apparently fraudulent voter registrations in some states, conservatives began claiming that the "purpose" of ACORN is to commit "voter fraud." However, all that was found during a raid of ACORN's office here in Nevada was apparently fraudulent voter registration forms, which do not constitute voter fraud. "It's not voter fraud unless someone shows up at the voting booth on Election Day and tries to pass himself off as 'Tony Romo.'" And who would try to do that?" wrote Rep. Jesse Jackson. As New York University's Brennan Center for Justice noted, "[T]here are no reports that we have discovered of votes actually cast in the names of [false] registrants." Under most state laws, in fact, voter registration organizations like ACORN are required to turn in all the forms they receive, even the suspicious ones. Furthermore, as Brad Friedman pointed out in the Guardian, "[I]f [ACORN] can't authenticate the registration, or it's incomplete or questionable in other ways, they flag that form as problematic...In almost every case where you've heard about fraud by Acorn, it's because Acorn itself notified officials about the fraud that's been perpetrated on them by rogue canvassers." Conservative members of Congress "sent a letter to Attorney General Michael Mukasey requesting the Department of Justice ensure that the actions of ACORN did not violate federal laws." But conservatives have gone down this road before, only to find nothing. In 2004, ACORN faced three lawsuits pertaining to alleged voter fraud, all of which were dismissed. As noted at the time, "several politically motivated law firms brought baseless charges of voter registration fraud against ACORN in an effort to inhibit its work to register low-income and minority voters." But the Bush administration was so intent on furthering these trumped-up charges of voter fraud that in 2006 attorneys from the Department of Justice -- including New Mexico's David Iglesias -- were fired for not pursuing fraud cases "to the satisfaction of their bosses." Revealing the shallowness of the conservative outrage though, the New York Times reported last week that "tens of thousands of eligible voters in at least six swing states have been removed from the rolls or have been blocked from registering in ways that appear to violate federal law." This has garnered scant attention compared to the uproar surrounding ACORN. “ACORN!” is simply a red herring. > Fourth, Obama had jumped on the bandwagon > to provide the $700 billion + bail out Whose ‘bandwagon’ was he jumping on? > So to me, it seemed a perfect opportunity for McCain. I > thought McCain would really hammer Obama and the Democrats > with these facts and vote against the $700 billion+ bailout. McCain? A Republican? Not want to help Wall Street and the banks? > But I was wrong. Yep ….. Jerry ‘n Vegas
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Date: 03 Jan 2009 14:54:00
From: hanks
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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On Jan 3 2009 7:47 AM, Jerry Sturdivant wrote: > "Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net> wrote > > > > There were many factors that contributed > > to John McCain's loss: > > Some were major; some were minor. > > > > McCain and Obama both agreed to stick to public campaign > > financing. When Obama saw how much money he was raising, > > he broke his word and out-spent McCain by about five to one. > > Wouldn’t you? Had Obama not changed, he’d be considered an idiot. > > > > The liberal main stream media … > > “Liberal media” is a fallacy that’s been disproved over and over and again > needs its own discussion. You might start by watching this: > http://www.outfoxed.org > > > > and the Hollywood liberal celebrities fell in love with Obama > > and handled him with kid gloves through out his campaign. > > And why not? Who the hell wanted to stay with a failing administration run > by an AWOL, lying idiot? > > > > John McCain assisted Obama by refusing to > > capitalize on the Jeremiah Wright fiasco. > > Capitalized on what? His preacher was nuts. You’re blaming Obama for that? > > > > People were tired of President Bush and tired of the Iraq war. > > BINGO! > > > > The fact that Bush was a lousy communicator > > only made things worse. > > BINGO 2 > > > > However, the turning point of the election > > was the mid-September financial crash. > > And rightly so as the house of cards and Bush’s trillion-dollar debt came > tumbling down. > > > > First, McCain had warned against F-MAE and F-MAC's increasing > > involvement in the whole subprime mortgage mess. > > Whoa! McCain was part and parcel of the GOP deregulation that caused this > problem. The banks and Wall Street were making millions and dumping (by > deregulation) it into AA AAA bonds as ‘good stuff.’ > > McCain was for deregulation all the way: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4egXbhSOhk > > > > Second, the Democrats had been in charge of all the congressional > > banking and finance committees for the past two years. > > Between 8/07 and 8/08, under Barney Frank and Chris Dodd's > > "leadership" F-MAE and F-MAC lost 90% of its stock value. > > From the previous 6-years of GOP deregulation that put us in the mess. > > > > Third, at the time McCain was warning congress about the > > danger of subprime loans at F-MAE and F-MAC, > > I’ve covered that error… > > > > Obama was an arm twister for ACORN … > > Let me (with help) straighten you out on the ACORN thing. The Association of > Community Organizations for Reform Now. Conservative lawmakers were able to > remove a provision aimed at aiding low-income housing programs from the Bush > administration’s $700 billion economic bailout bill by calling it a "slush > fund." <http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2008/10/01/conservatives-acorn> > for ACORN. Before that, conservatives blamed ACORN for "precipitating the > subprime crisis." And they alleged that the "purpose" of ACORN is to engage > in voter fraud. However, as columnist Joel McNally correctly noted, the > "underlying motive for attacking ACORN" seems to be that it is the "nation's > largest grassroots community organization of low- and moderate-income > people." "It is an organization that engages in that dreaded community > organizing," McNally wrote. "It actually tries to give a voice to the poor > and most vulnerable among us." Indeed, after years of enacting policies > catering to the wealthy, the right-wing of millions of new low-income voters > registered by ACORN casting their ballots in favor of progressive policies. > > In early October, ACORN announced that it had registered 1.3 million new > voters for the November election. Seizing on reports of apparently > fraudulent voter registrations in some states, conservatives began claiming > that the "purpose" of ACORN is to commit "voter fraud." However, all that > was found during a raid of ACORN's office here in Nevada was apparently > fraudulent voter registration forms, which do not constitute voter fraud. > "It's not voter fraud unless someone shows up at the voting booth on > Election Day and tries to pass himself off as 'Tony Romo.'" And who would > try to do that?" wrote Rep. Jesse Jackson. As New York University's Brennan > Center for Justice noted, "[T]here are no reports that we have discovered of > votes actually cast in the names of [false] registrants." Under most state > laws, in fact, voter registration organizations like ACORN are required to > turn in all the forms they receive, even the suspicious ones. Furthermore, > as Brad Friedman pointed out in the Guardian, "[I]f [ACORN] can't > authenticate the registration, or it's incomplete or questionable in other > ways, they flag that form as problematic...In almost every case where you've > heard about fraud by Acorn, it's because Acorn itself notified officials > about the fraud that's been perpetrated on them by rogue canvassers." > > Conservative members of Congress "sent a letter to Attorney General Michael > Mukasey requesting the Department of Justice ensure that the actions of > ACORN did not violate federal laws." But conservatives have gone down this > road before, only to find nothing. In 2004, ACORN faced three lawsuits > pertaining to alleged voter fraud, all of which were dismissed. As noted at > the time, "several politically motivated law firms brought baseless charges > of voter registration fraud against ACORN in an effort to inhibit its work > to register low-income and minority voters." But the Bush administration was > so intent on furthering these trumped-up charges of voter fraud that in 2006 > attorneys from the Department of Justice -- including New Mexico's David > Iglesias -- were fired for not pursuing fraud cases "to the satisfaction of > their bosses." Revealing the shallowness of the conservative outrage though, > the New York Times reported last week that "tens of thousands of eligible > voters in at least six swing states have been removed from the rolls or have > been blocked from registering in ways that appear to violate federal law." > This has garnered scant attention compared to the uproar surrounding ACORN. > > “ACORN!” is simply a red herring. > > > > Fourth, Obama had jumped on the bandwagon > > to provide the $700 billion + bail out > > Whose ‘bandwagon’ was he jumping on? > > > > So to me, it seemed a perfect opportunity for McCain. I > > thought McCain would really hammer Obama and the Democrats > > with these facts and vote against the $700 billion+ bailout. > > McCain? A Republican? Not want to help Wall Street and the banks? > > > > But I was wrong. > > Yep ….. > > > Jerry ‘n Vegas Hi Jerry, I really appreciate your clear well written posts. PLEASE keep up the good work. Thanks, hanks _______________________________________________________________________ * kill-files, watch-lists, favorites, and more.. www.recgroups.com
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Date: 03 Jan 2009 14:43:08
From: joeturn
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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The Israeli mossad did not give two shits about the Kennedy brothers decisions of delaying its nuclear bomb but B & R bennifited emensly from the tragety!! OSWALD pulled the trigger three times but Johson (the owner of B&R at the time) gave him the ultimatem do or die and Ruby was their fall guy to silence him!! JFK was giving all of Johsons no bid contracts to cheaper Union Contractors$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Clay Shaw - a CIA asset When Garrison finally brought one man to trial, widely respected New Orleans trade executive Clay Shaw, Garrison had narrowed his field, suggesting, primarily, that Shaw had been one of the lower-level players in the conspiracy. According to Garrison, Shaw was essentially doing the bidding of highly-placed figures in what has roughly been described as "the military-industrial complex," that combination of financial interests and armaments manufacturers whose power and influence in official Washington-and around the world-is a very real force in global affairs. Garrison suggested that Shaw and his co-conspirators had multiple motivations stimulating their decision to move against President Kennedy. Among other things, he asserted: The conspirators opposed JFK's decision to begin withdrawing U.S. forces from Indochina; They were angry at his failure to provide military cover support for Cuban exiles attempting to topple Fidel Castro in the botched Bay of Pigs invasion; They were bitter at JFK for firing longtime CIA Director Allen Dulles, a grand old man of the Cold War against the Soviet Union; and In addition, Garrison hinted, JFK's successor, Lyndon Johnson, may have wanted JFK removed from office for the purpose of claiming the crown for himself, but also because JFK and his younger brother, Attorney General Robert Kennedy, were not only plotting to remove Johnson from the Democratic national ticket in 1964, as well as conducting federal criminal investigations of many of Johnson's closest associates and financial backers-even including in the realm of organized crime. In the end, after a relatively brief deliberation, the jury hearing the Shaw case acquitted Shaw. It was only later-much later-that evidence emerged that Shaw had indeed been a CIA informant, Shaw's protestations the contrary. Only in recent years has it been determined, for example, that the American CIA was deliberately sabotaging Garrison's investigation from within, not to mention providing assistance to Shaw's defense. And although there are those who continue to say that Shaw's acquittal "proved" that Shaw had nothing whatsoever to do with the JFK conspiracy, the bigger picture suggests quite the contrary. Shaw was involved with something very murky and so were others in Shaw's circle of friends and associates. And they were, in turn, directly connected to the strange activities of Lee Harvey Oswald in New Orleans, the summer just prior to the assassination of John F. Kennedy, before Oswald's sojourn to Dallas. Dozens of writers-many with differing points of view-have documented all of this, time and again. The hidden bomb shell unearthed So although the "official" legend is that Jim Garrison believed that the CIA and the military-industrial complex were the prime movers behind JFK's murder, when all was said and done, however, Jim Garrison had privately reached quite a different conclusion, one that remains largely unknown even to many people who worked with Garrison throughout the course of his investigation. In fact, as noted, Garrison had decided-based on the entirety of everything that he had learned, from a wide variety of sources-that the most likely masterminds of the JFK assassination were operatives of Israel's intelligence service, the Mossad. The remarkable truth is that-although Garrison apparently didn't know it at the time, precisely because the facts had yet to be revealed- Garrison may have been on to something, far more than he realized. The public record now demonstrates that in 1963 JFK was embroiled in a bitter secret conflict with Israeli leader David Ben-Gurion over Israel's drive to build the atomic bomb; that Ben-Gurion resigned in disgust, saying that because of JFK's policies, Israel's "existence [was] in danger." Then upon JFK's assassination, U.S. policy toward Israel began an immediate 180-degree turnaround. Israeli historian Avner Cohen's new book, Israel and the Bomb, confirms the conflict between JFK and Israel so powerfully that, Israel's Ha'aretz, declared Cohen's revelations would "necessitate the rewriting of Israel's entire history." From Israel's perspective, writes Cohen, "Kennedy's demands [on Israel] seemed diplomatically inappropriate=85inconsistent with national sovereignty." In any case, Cohen pointed out, "the transition from Kennedy to [Lyndon] Johnson=85 benefited the Israeli nuclear program." Now how can you tie Roberts demise to the Israelis? Spell check here loopy
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Date: 05 Jan 2009 21:02:18
From: FL Turbo
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 14:43:08 -0800 (PST), joeturn <joeturn2000@yahoo.com > wrote: >The Israeli mossad did not give two shits about the Kennedy brothers >decisions of delaying its nuclear bomb but B & R bennifited emensly >from the tragety!! OSWALD pulled the trigger three times but Johson >(the owner of B&R at the time) gave him the ultimatem do or die and >Ruby was their fall guy to silence him!! JFK was giving all of Johsons >no bid contracts to cheaper Union Contractors$$$$$$$$$$$$$ > HonestTaGawd, Joe. Can't you stay focused for at least one entire paragraph? >Clay Shaw - a CIA asset >When Garrison finally brought one man to trial, widely respected New >Orleans trade executive Clay Shaw, Garrison had narrowed his field, >suggesting, primarily, that Shaw had been one of the lower-level >players in the conspiracy. According to Garrison, Shaw was essentially >doing the bidding of highly-placed figures in what has roughly been >described as "the military-industrial complex," that combination of >financial interests and armaments manufacturers whose power and >influence in official Washington-and around the world-is a very real >force in global affairs. >Garrison suggested that Shaw and his co-conspirators had multiple >motivations stimulating their decision to move against President >Kennedy. Among other things, he asserted: > >The conspirators opposed JFK's decision to begin withdrawing U.S. >forces from Indochina; > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------- The JFK Assassination drew the attention of damn near every serious journalist for Gawd knows how many years. All dead ends, with the final question: "Where's the Beef"? Clara Peller is now dead without getting an answer. No Woodward. No Bernstein. No Deep Throat. No Smoking Gun. Not that there weren't any benefits. It gave Conspiracy Theorists everywhere a big kickstart. My humble suggestion that Onassis had him assassinated so he could marry Jackie is every bit as plausible as any one of them. BTW I looked everywhere for any independent source of news about your favorite journalist, William Bowles. No mention anywhere. I finally had to resort to his home page. A jackpot. http://www.williambowles.info/ Alberto Terenzi: Gaza: Chronicle of a Predictable Slaughter The Newsletter of the Free Gaza Movement, 5 January, 2008 ICH 5 January, 2008: Israel rains fire on Gaza with phosphorus shells URUK Net 4 January, 2009 Part 3: Israel – The Sociopathic State URUK Net 4 January, 2009 Part 2: Report Direct from Gaza Bashir Abu-Manneh: Destroying Gaza, Delaying Palestine William Bowles: The obscenity that is the state of Israel --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Just a little sampler. 'Nuff Said.
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Date: 03 Jan 2009 13:29:54
From: joeturn
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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On Jan 3, 3:33=A0pm, joeturn <joeturn2...@yahoo.com > wrote: > http://www.williambowles.info/ini/ini-0136.html That one will make your eyes bleed but as with wikipedia edits there are no more tales from the grassy knole!! But you do see it was there dont you FL turbo??
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Date: 05 Jan 2009 20:27:10
From: FL Turbo
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 13:29:54 -0800 (PST), joeturn <joeturn2000@yahoo.com > wrote: >On Jan 3, 3:33 pm, joeturn <joeturn2...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> http://www.williambowles.info/ini/ini-0136.html > >That one will make your eyes bleed but as with wikipedia edits there >are no more tales from the grassy knole!! But you do see it was there >dont you FL turbo?? You are absolutely correct on one thing. The article did make my eyes bleed from trying to follow the dots dancing around as Knowles went on about trying to paint his picture. I will also agree with Knowles that Armitage is a real sleazebag, and his patron Colin Powell not far behind. It finally came out in the great Plame Kerfuffle that it was one Richard Armitage that outed Plame to Novak. His boss, Colin Powell knew that also. Yet, they both remained silent as the Fitzgerald investigation dragged on and on and on. But I digress. Let's go to the Wayback Machine for a little discussion. In the aftermath of WWI, Germany was a completely defeated nation. They could not possibly pay the Reparations demanded of them by the winning side. Personally, I think that the hyper-inflation that occurred in Germany was done on purpose by their financial gurus. A poke in the eye, as it were, to the countries demanding the Reparations. "You want our money, Pal? Here, load up a few boxcars full of it." But whatever. The German economy was in complete shambles. What did they have left? I'll tell you what they had left. Their factories were left intact. Their skilled workforce was still there, albeit without jobs. That was quite unlike the aftermath of WWII, when their infrastructure was bombed into rubble. Now cast your eyes to the Big Money in the USA. The Bushes, the Harrimans, the Rockefellers, you name 'em. The people with Big Money cut across political lines. Then, as now, there were both Democrats and Republicans in that group. The thing that they all had in common was they were Capitalists with Big Money. Capitalists looking for a place to invest their money. What better place to invest than Post-war Germany? Assets that could be bought for pennies on the dollar. Just to make a long story shorter, the investments in Germany had nothing to do with the Nazis. They didn't even exist when the investments in German industry began. The author's eagerness to place every dot on the Bush family is downright laughable. The Saudis? The relationship of the USA and SA has been a tradition for many decades now. It has continued throughout Demo and Repo administrations, like, you know, forever now. Know where Clinton got a big chunk of his wealth? Ayup. The Saudis. But enough for now. I'll just leave you with a little teaser. It's about Halliburton. Have you ever heard the old computer programmers question? "Do you want it fast, good, or cheap? Pick any two of the above." HINT Halliburton has been the choice of Governments in getting something done. -- "Holy fuck city, Turbo, you really ARE the biggest moron on this whole entire newsgroup. I will pray for you." - Paul Popinjay, 11/7/2008
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Date: 03 Jan 2009 12:33:26
From: joeturn
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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http://www.williambowles.info/ini/ini-0136.html
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Date: 03 Jan 2009 12:11:15
From: joeturn
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=johnson+owns+brown+%26+root&ei=utf-8&fr=b1ie7
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Date: 03 Jan 2009 11:59:47
From: joeturn
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=UTF-8&y=Search&fr=b1ie7&p=halliburton+moves+to+dubai&rs=0&fr2=rs-top
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Date: 03 Jan 2009 11:48:51
From: joeturn
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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Now Cheneys ties but where did the thingy about Haliburtins move to avoid paying US taxes?? http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=UTF-8&fr=b1ie7&p=dick+cheney+%26+halliburton&SpellState=n-3955386399_q-cyKFlKn%2FdiSpJzrhcBaKkQAAAA%40%40&fr2=sp-top
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Date: 03 Jan 2009 11:37:58
From: joeturn
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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On Jan 3, 2:31 pm, joeturn <joeturn2...@yahoo.com > wrote: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KBR_(company) Help - Help for Webmasters << back to results for "brown & root" Below is a cache of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KBR_(company). It's a snapshot of the page taken as our search engine crawled the Web. We've highlighted the words: brown root The web site itself may have changed. You can check the current page (without highlighting) or check for previous versions at the Internet Archive. Yahoo! is not affiliated with the authors of this page or responsible for its content. [Collapse] A Thank You from Wikipedia Founder Jimmy Wales [Expand] Support Wikipedia: a non-profit project. Donate Now >> [Expand] Support Wikipedia: a non-profit project. -- Donate Now KBR (company) From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search The neutrality of this article is disputed. Please see the discussion on the talk page. (July 2008) Please do not remove this message until the dispute is resolved. KBR, Inc. Type Public Founded 1998 Headquarters Houston, Texas Key people Bill Utt Jerry L. Winchester Industry Engineering Construction Private military contractor Employees 50,000 Website http://www.kbr.com/ KBR, Inc. (formerly Kellogg Brown & Root) NYSE: KBR is an American engineering and construction company, formerly a subsidiary of Halliburton, based in Houston. After Halliburton acquired Dresser Industries in 1998, Dresser's engineering subsidiary, The M. W. Kellogg Co., was merged with Halliburton's construction subsidiary, Brown & Root, to form Kellogg Brown & Root. KBR and its predecessors have won many contracts with the U.S. military during the 2003 invasion of Iraq, as well as during World War II and the Vietnam War. KBR is the largest non-union construction company in the United States. [1] Contents [hide] 1 History 1.1 M.W. Kellogg 1.2 Brown & Root 1.3 Halliburton years 1.4 Formation of KBR, Inc. 1.5 New headquarters facility 2 Kosovo 3 Activities in Afghanistan 4 Activities in Iraq 4.1 Employee safety 4.2 Human Trafficking Lawsuit 5 Political connections and controversy 5.1 Shell companies in Cayman Islands 6 Legacy in Houston 7 References 8 External links [edit] History [edit] M.W. Kellogg In 1901, Morris Kellogg founded The M. W. Kellogg Company in New York City. The company was incorporated in 1905 and its headquarters was moved to Jersey City, New Jersey. Initially Kellogg's main business was power plant construction and fabrication of power plant components, but the development of hammer forge welding techniques helped ready the company to move into refining as the petroleum industry developed. Kellogg's entry into process engineering initially focused on the Fleming cracking process, but in the 1920s Kellogg partnered with The Texas Company (Texaco) and Standard Oil of Indiana to purchase the Cross thermal cracking process. Kellogg set up one of the first petroleum laboratories in the country in 1926 to commercialize and then license the technology. This led to Kellogg building some 130 units in the US and abroad. In the 1930s and '40s Kellogg worked with leading refiners on various technologies. For the war effort, these developments led to the construction of six hydroreformer units twenty fluid catalytic cracking units and the only complete refinery built during World War II. Even bigger than the refining work was the gaseous diffusion plant at Oak Ridge, Tennessee built as part of the Manhattan project. This period also included the development of the Benedict-Webb-Rubin (BWR) equation of state which has since become an industry mainstay and provided the basis for Kellogg's lead in cryogenics. The 1950s Kellogg technology expanded into steam pyrolysis, Orthoflow fluid catalytic cracking, phenol-from-cumene and coal-to-synthetic fuels technologies and the '60s saw the growth in helium recovery, ethylene and the development of Kellogg's ammonia process. In 1970 Kellogg moved from New York City to Houston, Texas and in 1975, they completed the move by relocating the research and development lab as well. The '70s saw Kellogg become the first American contractor to receive contracts from the People's Republic of China. Kellogg's international work expanded with the major ammonia complexes in China, Indonesia and Mexico as well as LNG liquefaction plant in Algeria and 2 receiving terminals in the U.S., the world's largest LPG plant in Kuwait and four fluid catalytic cracking units in Mexico. The '80s saw continuation of global activity in LNG and ethylene with millisecond furnaces starting up in the U.S. [edit] Brown & Root Brown & Root was founded in Texas in 1919 by two brothers, George R. Brown and Herman Brown with money from their brother-in-law, Dan Root. The company began its operations by building roads in Texas. One of its first large-scale projects, according to the book Cadillac Desert, was to build a dam on the Texas Colorado River near Austin during the Depression years. For assistance in federal payments, the company turned to the local Congressman, Lyndon B. Johnson. Brown & Root was the principal source of campaign funds for Johnson's initial run for Congress in 1937 in return for persuading the Bureau of Reclamation to change its rules against paying for a dam on land the federal government did not own, a decision that had to go all the way to President Franklin Delano Roosevelt, according to Robert A. Caro's book The Path to Power. After other very profitable construction projects for the federal government, such as building the Corpus Christi Naval Station, Brown & Root gave massive sums of cash for Johnson's first run for the U.S. Senate in 1941. Brown and Root violated IRS rules over campaign contributions, largely in charging off its donations as deductible company expenses, again according to Robert Caro. A subsequent IRS investigation threatened to bring criminal charges of illegal campaign donations against Brown & Root as well as Johnson and others. It was not quashed until Roosevelt himself told the IRS to back off and allowed Brown and Root to settle for pennies on the dollar. During World War II, Brown & Root built the Naval Air Station Corpus Christi and its subsidiary Brown Shipbuilding produced a series of warships for the U.S. Government. In 1947, Brown & Root built one of the world's first offshore oil platforms. According to Tracy Kidder's Pulitzer Prize-winning book Mountains Beyond Mountains, Brown & Root was a contractor in the P=A8=A6ligre Dam project. The project was designed by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers and financed by the Export-Import Bank of the United States. [edit] Halliburton years Following the death of Herman Brown, Halliburton Energy Services acquired Brown & Root in December 1962. According to Dan Briody, who wrote a book on the subject, the company became part of a consortium of four companies that built about 85 percent of the infrastructure needed by the Army during the Vietnam War. At the height of the anti- war movement of the 1960s, Brown & Root was derided as "Burn & Loot" by protesters. The extent of their services included a vast array of logistical operations, historically under the jurisdiction of the military. Such operations included laundry services, meal services (Burger King, Subway, Papa John's Pizza), entertainment (Internet and cable access), and recreation (basketball courts and gym equipment). From 1995-2002, Halliburton KBR was awarded at least $2.5 billion to construct and run military bases, some in secret locations, as part of the Army's Logistics Civil Augmentation Program (LOGCAP).[2] In September 2005, under a competitive bid contract it won in July 2005 to provide debris removal and other emergency work associated with natural disasters, KBR started assessment of the cleanup and reconstruction of Gulf Coast Marine and Navy facilities damaged in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. The facilities include: Naval Station Pascagoula, Naval Station Gulfport, the John C. Stennis Space Center in Mississippi, two smaller U.S. Navy facilities in New Orleans, Louisiana and others in the Gulf Coast region. KBR has had similar contracts for more than 15 years. [edit] Formation of KBR, Inc. Halliburton announced on April 5, 2007 that it had finally broken ties with KBR, which has been its contracting, engineering and construction unit as a part of the company for 44 years.[3] The move was prefaced by a statement registered with the United States Securities and Exchange Commission on April 15, 2006 stating that Halliburton planned to sell up to 20 percent of its KBR stock on the New York Stock Exchange (NYSE). On November 16, 2006, KBR shares were offered for the public in an Initial Public Offering with shares priced at $17. The shares closed on the first day up more than 22 percent to $20.75 a share.[4] On May 7, 2008, the company announced that it would acquire Birmingham, Alabama-based engineering and construction firm BE&K for $550 million. BE&K plans to remain headquartered in Birmingham.[5] [edit] New headquarters facility In 2008 the firm announced that a new headquarters would appear at the intersection of the Grand Parkway and Interstate 10 in unincorporated Harris County, Texas, between Houston and Katy; this would replace the Clinton Drive facility.[6] [edit] Kosovo In 1996, President Bill Clinton awarded Brown & Root a contract to support U.S. and North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) troops as part of the SFOR operation in the Balkan region. This contract was extended to also include KFOR operations in Kosovo starting in 1999. Camp Bondsteel in Kosovo was constructed by the 94th Engineer Construction Battalion together with the private Kellogg Brown & Root (KBR) under the direction of the Army Corps of Engineers. KBR is also the prime contractor for the operation of the camp. The camp is built mainly of wooden, semi permanent SEA (South East Asia) huts and is surrounded by a 2.5 meter high earthen wall. To construct the base two hills were lopped off and the valley between them was filled with the resulting material. [edit] Activities in Afghanistan KBR was awarded a $100 million contract in 2002 to build a new U.S. embassy in Kabul, Afghanistan, from the State Department. KBR has also been awarded 15 Logistics Civil Augmentation Program (LOGCAP) task orders worth more than $216 million for work under Operation Enduring Freedom, the military name for operations in Afghanistan. These include establishing base camps at Kandahar and Bagram Air Base and training foreign troops from the Republic of Georgia. [edit] Activities in Iraq KBR employs more American private contractors and holds a larger contract with the U.S. government than does any other firm in Iraq. The company's roughly 14,000 U.S. employees in Iraq provide logistical support to the U.S. armed forces.[7] The United States Army hired KBR to provide housing for approximately 100,000 soldiers in Iraq in a contract worth $200 million, based on a long-term contract signed in December 2001 under the Logistics Civil Augmentation Program (LOGCAP). Other LOGCAP orders have included a pre- invasion order to repair oil facilities in Iraq; $28.2 million to build POW camps; and $40.8 million to accommodate the Iraqi Survey Group, which was deployed after the invasion to find weapons of mass destruction. The Army's actions came under fire from California Congressman Henry Waxman, who, along with Michigan Congressman John Dingell, asked the General Accounting Office to investigate whether the U.S. Agency for International Development and The Pentagon were circumventing government contracting procedures and favoring companies with ties to the Bush administration. They also accused KBR of inflating prices for importing gasoline into Iraq.[8][9] In June 2003, the Army announced that it would replace KBR's oil-infrastructure contract with two public-bid contracts worth a maximum total of $1 billion, to be awarded in October. However, the Army announced in October it would expand the contract ceiling to $2 billion and the solicitation period to December. As of October 16, 2003, KBR had performed nearly $1.6 billion worth of work. In the meantime, KBR has subcontracted with two companies to work on the project: Boots & Coots, an oil field emergency response firm that Halliburton works in partnership with (CEO Jerry L. Winchester was a former Halliburton manager) and Wild Well Control. Both firms are based in Texas.[10] KBR's maintenance work in Iraq has been criticized after reports of soldiers electrocuted from faulty wiring.[11] Specifically, KBR has been charged by the Army for improper installation of electrical units in bathrooms throughout US bases. CNN reported that an Army Special Forces soldier, Staff Sergeant Ryan Maseth, died by electrocution in his shower stall on January 2, 2008. Army documents showed that KBR inspected the building and found serious electrical problems a full 11 months before his death. KBR noted "several safety issues concerning the improper grounding of electrical devices." But KBR's contract did not cover "fixing potential hazards;" It covered repairing items only after they broke down.[12]Maseth's family has sued KBR.[13] The Pentagon's Defense Contract Management Agency recently handed down a "Level III Corrective Action Request" to KBR This is disseminated after a contractor is found to bein a state of "serious noncompliance". [edit] Employee safety As of June 9, 2008, 81 American and Foreign KBR employees and subcontractors have been killed, and more than 380 have been wounded by hostile action while performing services under the company's government contracts in Iraq, Afghanistan and Kuwait.[14][15] [edit] Human Trafficking Lawsuit On August 28, 2008, defense contractor KBR, Inc. and a Jordanian subcontractor were accused of human trafficking in a federal lawsuit filed in Los Angeles.[16] The suit alleged that 12 Nepali men were recruited by Daoud & Partners to work in hotels and restaurants in Jordan, but the company seized their passports when they arrived in 2004 and had them sent to Iraq to work on a U.S. air base. The employees were killed when their caravan was attacked while enroute to the base.[17] [edit] Political connections and controversy Brown and Root had a well-documented relationship with U.S. President Lyndon Johnson, which began when he used his position as a Texas congressman to assist them in landing a lucrative dam contract. In return they gave him the funds for his 1948 Senate race against Coke R. Stevenson.[18] The relationship continued for years, with Johnson awarding military construction contracts to B&R. Following the end of the first Gulf War, the Pentagon, led by then Defense Secretary Dick Cheney, paid Halliburton subsidiary Brown & Root Services over $8.5 million to study the use of private military forces with American soldiers in combat zones.[2] Cheney was chairman and chief executive officer of Halliburton from 1995 to 2000. He has been accused of providing work to KBR under contingency contracts to financially benefit himself and his business associates. However, the Army contract which has been so controversial -- LOGCAP -- has, since its inception, been issued under competitive solicitations; of the LOGCAP contracts, KBR won the first, DynCorp the second, KBR the third, and the fourth one, dubbed "LOGCAP IV", was awarded to three contractors - KBR, DynCorp, and Fluor. LOGCAP is a contingency- based contract which is invoked at the convenience of the US Army as needed; the Task Orders under the contract are not competitively bid as the overall contract is. Although DynCorp had won LOGCAP II in 1994,[19] Clinton instead chose KBR, and thus the Balkans Support Contract was created for and awarded to KBR in February 1999.[20] Even though the LOGCAP program is specifically for contingency operations such as the Balkans, there was little media coverage about KBR picking up that contract; the Balkans work is sometimes mistakenly mentioned as being part of LOGCAP, however.[citation needed] Most media controversy involves the LOGCAP III contract which KBR successfully, and competitively, bid for and won in 2001.[citation needed] While it is by far the most profitable of their contracts, the functions of that contract are often mixed with the RIO contract in which KBR was given in a no-bid process. RIO, or Restore Iraqi Oil, was awarded to KBR when the United States Department of Defense determined that KBR was "the only contractor that could satisfy the requirement for immediate execution of the plan".[21] As of September 2006, hearings were still being conducted into the RIO project over possible billing, management, and procurement violations. One common theme is to use the term LOGCAP while using the dollar amounts from RIO, which was using LOGCAP funding for the initial staging and startup, (see reference #4). Jamie Leigh Jones, a 23-year-old former employee of KBR, testified at a Congressional hearing in December that she had been gang-raped by up to as many as seven co-workers in Iraq in 2005. [22] Another prime topic of interest is the Defense Contract Audit Agency (DCAA) report on billing-methods for meals. The auditors knew about, but disregarded, the Army's requirement, whereas KBR was directed to have varying amounts of meals prepared at certain locations regardless of how many people actually used the service. Although KBR was paying for the food, the DCAA did not believe they should be able to charge the DoD for meals prepared but not served.[23] In June 2008, Charles M. Smith, the senior civilian Defense Department official overseeing the government's multibillion-dollar contract with KBR during the early stages of the war in Iraq said he was forced out of his job in 2004 for refusing to approve $1 billion in questionable charges to KBR. Smith refused to approve the payments because Army auditors determined that KBR lacked credible records to support more than $1 billion in spending. Smith stated, "They had a gigantic amount of costs they couldn't justify." He said that following his action he was suddenly dismissed and according to media "his successors -- after taking the unusual step of hiring an outside contractor to consider KBR's claims -- approved most of the payments he had tried to block."[24] [edit] Shell companies in Cayman Islands In March 2008, the Boston Globe reported that KBR had avoided paying hundreds of millions of dollars in federal Medicare and Social Security taxes by hiring workers through shell companies based in the tax haven of the Cayman Islands. More than 21,000 people working for KBR in Iraq - including about 10,500 Americans - are listed as employees of two companies, Service Employers International Inc., and Overseas Administrative Services, which exist on the island only in computer files in an office. KBR acknowledged that the companies were set up "in order to allow us to reduce certain tax obligations of the company and its employees." But KBR does claim the workers as its own with regards to the legal immunity extended to employers working in Iraq.[25] A new piece of legislation may halt KBR's use of the Cayman subsidiaries[26] [edit] Legacy in Houston Houston's convention center was named after company founder and namesake George R. Brown. Rice University's Brown College is also named for members of Brown's family, who have made significant monetary contributions to Rice and other Houston schools. A residence hall at Southwestern University is named after Herman Brown. [edit] References ^ [1] uoig.uoregon.edu/research/reports/2007-2008/Fall/20071005- HAL.pdf University of Oregon Investment Group, February 22, 2008. ^ a b Yeoman, Barry (2003-06-01). "Soldiers of Good Fortune", Mother Jones. Retrieved on 8 May 2007. ^ Clanton, Brett. "KBR is officially out on its own." Houston Chronicle, April 5, 2007. ^ Bloomberg.com: Worldwide ^ Cooper, Lauren B. (2008-05-07). "Houston company to buy Birmingham's BE&K", Birmingham Business Journal. Retrieved on 7 May 2008. ^ KBR plans HQ campus - Houston Business Journal: ^ "Private contractors outnumber U.S. troops in Iraq" Los Angeles Times 4 July 2007 ^ http://www.forbes.com/markets/newswire/2003/10/15/rtr1110073.html ^ Industry Experts Call Halliburton Gasoline Prices "Highway Robbery" :: Committee on Oversight and Government Reform :: United States House of Representatives ^ 2003 Press Releases ^ "Despite Alert, Flawed Wiring Still Kills G.I.'s", New York Times (2008-05-04). Retrieved on 7 May 2008. ^ Green Beret electrocuted in shower on Iraq base - CNN.com ^ http://www.standardspeaker.com/articles/2008/08/07/editorial/hz_standspea= k.20080807.a.pg10.hz07edi_troops_s1.1861533_edi.txt ^ http://www.chron.com ^ http://www.alternet.org ^ "Nepalese man sues KBR on human trafficking charges," Associated Press article ^ "Families of 12 Slain in Iraq File Lawsuit," New York Times, August 28, 2008. Retrieved from NYTimes.com on 2008-11-18. ^ Bryce, Robert. "The Candidate from Brown and Root. (reprint)" Texas Observer, October 6, 2000. ^ Defenselink News "FAQ About Contracting", ^ Defenselink News "Contracts Awarded" DAAA09-99-C-0016, February 19, [[1999. ^ USACE "USACE Information sheet on RIO" ^ New York Times ^ Halliburton response"Halliburton statement" ^ "Army Overseer Tells of Ouster Over KBR Stir", The New York Times, 17 June 2008 ^ Farah Stockman, "Top Iraq contractor skirts US taxes offshore: Shell companies in Cayman Islands allow KBR to avoid Medicare, Social Security deductions", Boston Globe, March 6, 2008 ^ http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/business/5797584.html [edit] External links Company website CalPERS urged to divest from KBR Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KBR_(company)" Categories: Companies listed on the New York Stock Exchange
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Date: 03 Jan 2009 11:31:06
From: joeturn
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KBR_(company)
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Date: 03 Jan 2009 11:28:09
From: joeturn
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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On Jan 3, 12:58=A0pm, FL Turbo <noem...@notime.com > wrote: > On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 08:42:06 -0800 (PST), joeturn > > <joeturn2...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >I have no political voice as I have never voted!! I learned at an > >early age that you must be a used car salesman in order to hoodwink > >the multitude into believing in political promises! Keep in mind that > >WE THE PEOPLE have the best government that money can buy and if any > >leader goes against the grain, he will get assassinated! The Kennedy's > >are a prime example they did not like the way Haliburtin(Brown&Root) > >ran the country!! > >Grammarize this for me Mr Book Worn<I;-) > > B&R assassinated JFK? > LMFAOSC&D > > You have certainly changed my opinion. > Formerly, I thought that risky biz was the biggest dumshit on RGP. > > He now ranks #2 > You are #1 > > Congratulations. You are dim witted a search for brown&root will pull up wikipedias explanation and its history! Being able to connect the dots from Rosevelt to Chainey shows adequate ties to the johnson era and jfks giving away their contracts cost them $billions and JFK his life!! Your opinions are not worthy of posting as you have no grasp on reality!! I'll fectch it for you but there are no pictures involved so reading is a must! You could never find it for yourself BRB!! I'm waiting on my Nobel Prize then congradulations will be in order<I;-)
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Date: 03 Jan 2009 15:52:33
From: FL Turbo
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 11:28:09 -0800 (PST), joeturn <joeturn2000@yahoo.com > wrote: >On Jan 3, 12:58 pm, FL Turbo <noem...@notime.com> wrote: >> On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 08:42:06 -0800 (PST), joeturn >> >> <joeturn2...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >I have no political voice as I have never voted!! I learned at an >> >early age that you must be a used car salesman in order to hoodwink >> >the multitude into believing in political promises! Keep in mind that >> >WE THE PEOPLE have the best government that money can buy and if any >> >leader goes against the grain, he will get assassinated! The Kennedy's >> >are a prime example they did not like the way Haliburtin(Brown&Root) >> >ran the country!! >> >Grammarize this for me Mr Book Worn<I;-) >> >> B&R assassinated JFK? >> LMFAOSC&D >> >> You have certainly changed my opinion. >> Formerly, I thought that risky biz was the biggest dumshit on RGP. >> >> He now ranks #2 >> You are #1 >> >> Congratulations. > >You are dim witted a search for brown&root will pull up wikipedias >explanation and its history! Being able to connect the dots from >Rosevelt to Chainey shows adequate ties to the johnson era and jfks >giving away their contracts cost them $billions and JFK his life!! If you see dots in front of your eyes, I strongly suggest that you go to see an eye doctor immediately. It could possibly be an early sign of Glaucoma. Early treatment is a must. I should know. My eye doctor gave me a severe lecture when she noticed I hadn't been in to be tested for over 2 years. > Your opinions are not worthy of posting as you have no grasp on >reality!! I'll fectch it for you but there are no pictures involved so >reading is a must! You could never find it for yourself BRB!! Well, thank you for your concern. If you have one specific site that shows that B&R had JFK assassinated, please indicate which one. I can't see all those dots yet. I have my own explanation. I think that Ari Onassis had JFK assassinated so he could marry Jackie. Just think. If Nikita Khruschev was assassinated, would Ari have married Nina Khruschev? I don't think so. > I'm waiting on my Nobel Prize then congradulations will be in >order<I;-)
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Date: 03 Jan 2009 09:20:06
From: joeturn
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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research humanism part 2 Now Clasp pay close attentention:: Throughout the ages mankind has taken such a gaint step and moved on soo fast, it has forgot to smell the coffee. Humanism as we know it says " Mankind is never content with what its got and wants more than it can get,this drives him into loosing what he's got"! Inso being (greedy) this great over sight of WALLSTREET has not only got the world to laughing but the most Superior being of them all"THE MONKEY" is laughing themselves out of the barrel!! Back in the day mankind formed a government that took care of the majority of its subjects to the best it knew how! Legistlature"THE SUPREME LAW of THE LAND had checqs & balances ,guide lines if you please that governed the way things went along and the outcome was for the people! Judge Roy Bean would be on his way to Washington with his rope to make sure this mess was cleared up! Yes there would be a mass hanging even the ones that were not guilty of EMBEZZELMENT but by association only was a hanging crime! They not only stood by and watched,THEY allowed this fiasco to go on unchecked$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ THE MONKEY WINS OUT AGAIN hows the spell check coming loopy;)
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Date: 03 Jan 2009 08:42:06
From: joeturn
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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I have no political voice as I have never voted!! I learned at an early age that you must be a used car salesman in order to hoodwink the multitude into believing in political promises! Keep in mind that WE THE PEOPLE have the best government that money can buy and if any leader goes against the grain, he will get assassinated! The Kennedy's are a prime example they did not like the way Haliburtin(Brown&Root) ran the country!! Grammarize this for me Mr Book Worn<I;-)
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Date: 03 Jan 2009 11:58:11
From: FL Turbo
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 08:42:06 -0800 (PST), joeturn <joeturn2000@yahoo.com > wrote: >I have no political voice as I have never voted!! I learned at an >early age that you must be a used car salesman in order to hoodwink >the multitude into believing in political promises! Keep in mind that >WE THE PEOPLE have the best government that money can buy and if any >leader goes against the grain, he will get assassinated! The Kennedy's >are a prime example they did not like the way Haliburtin(Brown&Root) >ran the country!! >Grammarize this for me Mr Book Worn<I;-) B&R assassinated JFK? LMFAOSC&D You have certainly changed my opinion. Formerly, I thought that risky biz was the biggest dumshit on RGP. He now ranks #2 You are #1 Congratulations.
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Date: 03 Jan 2009 07:15:12
From: Bob T.
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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On Jan 3, 6:43=A0am, "Irish Mike" <mjos...@ameritech.net > wrote: <whining > MIke, there's something I've been meaning to tell you: "mainstream" is one word. I think it's important that you know, because apparently you're going to be whining about this election every day for the next four years, and I'm sure the "mainstream media" will feature prominently in your rants. Happy to help, and Happy New Year! - Bob T. > > Irish Mike
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Date: 03 Jan 2009 07:16:48
From: FangBanger
Subject: Re: Why John McCain really lost the election
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On Jan 3 2009 8:43 AM, Irish Mike wrote: >62 MILLION PEOPLE VOTED FOR THE OTHER GUY!! ____________________________________________________________________ * kill-files, watch-lists, favorites, and more.. www.recgroups.com
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