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Date: 22 Jan 2009 23:02:56
From: RussGeorgiev@aol.com
Subject: Want to Findout how crooked FullTilt is?---Russ G
Years ago, certain gambler hung around or sat in big games in Vegas
for one purpose only, give insurance on big pots. In certain high
stakes PL games, the money would go all-in with one card coming.
Here's when the favorite would take insurance from one of these
players.

Say the game was holdem and the guy had his opponent drawing to a 2
outer? 4 cards on the board, 4 cards turned face up, leaving 44 cards.
Having a 2 outer meant the favorite was 21-1 favorite. Here's where
insurance kicked in. The guy with the hand would ask someone for
insurance. A guy would offer say 18-1 or so, taking a very good edge.
Instead of giving 7-1, an insurance guy would give 6-1. Now, this
business was the STONE COLD NUTS. No table games had edges this large.
No bookies had edges this large. Plus, the action went on day after
day.

Soon, the insurance guys or nits as many were called since most of
them were only in the game for this were making too much money. So,
when this happens, the brain trusts go into action. In a few months,
the insurance guys were broke. Is this possible? How can they be
getting 10% and higher edge and go broke?

In theory, you can't if you have a big enough bankroll. And trust me,
between the dozens of these guys, you could buy a casino. So how did
they go broke or stop giving insurance?

Well, here's where the cheats started the cold deck bonanza. Now,
these insurance guys weren't dummies, not completely. They were leary
of many players. So, the cold decks were given to newby players who
were in on the scam. Soon, everyday these guys would lose due to the
cold decking or card mechanics. Soon, no more insurance.

Now to FullTilt or PokerStars. Many of you have been brainwashed into
thinking these beats are a normal thing. Oh, they do happen, but not
as often as they should. Now RAZZ is a game that is very easy to
figure out. You can see the live and dead cards. Get yourself an
insurance guy for online poker and see how long he lasts.

Razz is a game to try it on. Take a person with a made 7 on six cards,
with a possibility of improving. By seeing the oppositions board, the
math would be very easy to do. The opposition would either have a
maximum of 12 cards to catch to win if a 7 can win if he hits it, down
to 8 if he has to make a 6 to win. Plus, the live and dead cards. Give
the poker bookie a 15-20% edge and see how you do?

Then try it the other way, where you have to hit? If you people played
stud variations, you'd see how crooked the sites are.

What's good for casino's is always bad for players. They took out prop
players from online sites about the end of 2005. Prior to that, props
were human and paid to play in certain games and paid by the hand.
About all the sites had human props. What about now? The human props
played their own money and paid their own rake. Now they're gone. As I
stated, what's good for online sites or casino's is bad for the
players.

Instead of having human props now, the casino's have robotic props.
Most of you keep thinking your playing against robots, but this can't
be farther from the truth. These props are integrated into the
software. It's like playing a slot machine. Slot machines can be
programmed to payoff at any amount. In fact, about 20 years ago they
had the big poker machine scandal in Vegas when many machines were
programmed to NEVER allow a Royal Flush.

This is what I mean when I state robots on online sites. They can make
them look like idiots, always chasing and losing most of the time,
except in some key situations. They can work in tandem with other
props on the site and their stats would look like whatever the site
wanted them to look like.

Russ Georgiev

www.pokerunchecked.com
www.pokermafia.com
www.russgeorgiev.com




 
Date: 23 Jan 2009 22:11:45
From: RussGeorgiev@aol.com
Subject: Re: Want to Findout how crooked FullTilt is?---Russ G
They keep sending me money in the mail also, but not as much as I'm
supposed to get. My last cashout in November still hasn't reached me
yet. At least on Stars I get the cash within 10 days if not sooner.

By the way Dave, how would you know if you were getting skimmed? All
the Vegas casino's made money, but all the Vegas casino's used to be
skimmed. So Dave, can/are you able to explain your answer? Because you
win=3D you aren't being cheated?



OnJan 23, 10:00=EF=BF=BDpm, "RAZZO RUSS SUCK THE BIG ONE"
<DMK102...@BELLSOUTH.NET > wrote:
> they keep sending me money in the mail
>
> On Jan 23 2009 2:35 AM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
>
> > "La Cosa Nostradamus" <a6f4...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> >news:4c8o46xiis.ln2@recgroups.com...
>
> > > I've been saying this forever, just see who wins more than they shoul=
d in
> > > allin situations.
>
> > But there is a BIG difference here, Skillz. =EF=BF=BDYou cannot compare=
your griping
> > about crooked poker sites with what Russ is saying. =EF=BF=BDIt's apple=
s and
> > oranges. =EF=BF=BDFor one thing, Russ is an outstanding poker player. =
=EF=BF=BDBut you suck.
>
> > -PP
>
> BEND OVER RAZZO RUSS
>
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Date: 23 Jan 2009 16:30:00
From: RussGeorgiev@aol.com
Subject: Re: Want to Findout how crooked FullTilt is?---Russ G
I played O'neal heads-up. He lost, he quit me. Comparing him to Sarge
Ferris is like comparing a little league player to a major league
player. You are showing your true ignorance the more you talk. You
state you entered this game in 1979, but these guys were around in the
60s, so WTF could you know about them unless some moron told you? I
was there in the 60s and know/knew both personally.




On Jan 23, 3:45=EF=BF=BDpm, "FangBanger" <a29b...@webnntp.invalid > wrote:
> On Jan 23 2009 1:02 AM, RussGeorg...@aol.com wrote:
>
> > Years ago, certain gambler hung around or sat in big games in Vegas
> > for one purpose only, give insurance on big pots. In certain high
> > stakes PL games, the money would go all-in with one card coming.
> > Here's when the favorite would take insurance from one of these
> > players.
>
> YOU TALKING ABOUT SARGE FERRIS ?
>
> Oneal Longson fashioned himself and insurance man foir a while but Sarge
> had way more money
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Say the game was holdem and the guy had his opponent drawing to a 2
> > outer? 4 cards on the board, 4 cards turned face up, leaving 44 cards.
> > Having a 2 outer meant the favorite was 21-1 favorite. Here's where
> > insurance kicked in. The guy with the hand would ask someone for
> > insurance. A guy would offer say 18-1 or so, taking a very good edge.
> > Instead of giving 7-1, an insurance guy would give 6-1. Now, this
> > business was the STONE COLD NUTS. No table games had edges this large.
> > No bookies had edges this large. Plus, the action went on day after
> > day.
>
> > Soon, the insurance guys or nits as many were called since most of
> > them were only in the game for this were making too much money. So,
> > when this happens, the brain trusts go into action. In a few months,
> > the insurance guys were broke. Is this possible? How can they be
> > getting 10% and higher edge and go broke?
>
> > In theory, you can't if you have a big enough bankroll. And trust me,
> > between the dozens of these guys, you could buy a casino. So how did
> > they go broke or stop giving insurance?
>
> > Well, here's where the cheats started the cold deck bonanza. Now,
> > these insurance guys weren't dummies, not completely. They were leary
> > of many players. So, the cold decks were given to newby players who
> > were in on the scam. Soon, everyday these guys would lose due to the
> > cold decking or card mechanics. Soon, no more insurance.
>
> > Now to FullTilt or PokerStars. Many of you have been brainwashed into
> > thinking these beats are a normal thing. Oh, they do happen, but not
> > as often as they should. Now RAZZ is a game that is very easy to
> > figure out. You can see the live and dead cards. Get yourself an
> > insurance guy for online poker and see how long he lasts.
>
> > Razz is a game to try it on. Take a person with a made 7 on six cards,
> > with a possibility of improving. By seeing the oppositions board, the
> > math would be very easy to do. The opposition would either have a
> > maximum of 12 cards to catch to win if a 7 can win if he hits it, down
> > to 8 if he has to make a 6 to win. Plus, the live and dead cards. Give
> > the poker bookie a 15-20% edge and see how you do?
>
> > Then try it the other way, where you have to hit? If you people played
> > stud variations, you'd see how crooked the sites are.
>
> > What's good for casino's is always bad for players. They took out prop
> > players from online sites about the end of 2005. Prior to that, props
> > were human and paid to play in certain games and paid by the hand.
> > About all the sites had human props. What about now? The human props
> > played their own money and paid their own rake. Now they're gone. As I
> > stated, what's good for online sites or casino's is bad for the
> > players.
>
> > Instead of having human props now, the casino's have robotic props.
> > Most of you keep thinking your playing against robots, but this can't
> > be farther from the truth. These props are integrated into the
> > software. It's like playing a slot machine. Slot machines can be
> > programmed to payoff at any amount. In fact, about 20 years ago they
> > had the big poker machine scandal in Vegas when many machines were
> > programmed to NEVER allow a Royal Flush.
>
> > This is what I mean when I state robots on online sites. They can make
> > them look like idiots, always chasing and losing most of the time,
> > except in some key situations. They can work in tandem with other
> > props on the site and their stats would look like whatever the site
> > wanted them to look like.
>
> > Russ Georgiev
>
> >www.pokerunchecked.com
> >www.pokermafia.com
> >www.russgeorgiev.com
>
> Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities=
.
> Voltaire
>
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Date: 23 Jan 2009 16:25:41
From: RussGeorgiev@aol.com
Subject: Re: Want to Findout how crooked FullTilt is?---Russ G
I would bet my life you didn't know Sarge Ferris. He was NO NIT first
of all and he was long before your time, so you are speaking through
you ass again. Sarge had all the money in Vegas in the late 60's and
was the MAN. He was a loan shark for the pro players at 2% a week.
Next, he was no NIT. The first time I played with my wife by my side,
Sarge tried to proposition my wife for $10,000. This was a fortune
back in the 60's. She just laughed at him him and told me.

You think Sarge was a nit who played just to give insurance? You show
your ignorance again. Sarge wasn't an insurance guy, but he would give
insurance just as any guy would. Sarge was the force behind the book
making and loan sharking in Gardena in the 60s and 70s, with Bob
Pippen as his agent.

Please, don't keep making a fool of yourself by guessing. I was there
with these guys and knew them personally. I even owed Sarge 100k when
he died. But, as Bob Pippen would say, "when you die, you're EVEN'".



On Jan 23, 3:45=EF=BF=BDpm, "FangBanger" <a29b...@webnntp.invalid > wrote:
> On Jan 23 2009 1:02 AM, RussGeorg...@aol.com wrote:
>
> > Years ago, certain gambler hung around or sat in big games in Vegas
> > for one purpose only, give insurance on big pots. In certain high
> > stakes PL games, the money would go all-in with one card coming.
> > Here's when the favorite would take insurance from one of these
> > players.
>
> YOU TALKING ABOUT SARGE FERRIS ?
>
> Oneal Longson fashioned himself and insurance man foir a while but Sarge
> had way more money
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Say the game was holdem and the guy had his opponent drawing to a 2
> > outer? 4 cards on the board, 4 cards turned face up, leaving 44 cards.
> > Having a 2 outer meant the favorite was 21-1 favorite. Here's where
> > insurance kicked in. The guy with the hand would ask someone for
> > insurance. A guy would offer say 18-1 or so, taking a very good edge.
> > Instead of giving 7-1, an insurance guy would give 6-1. Now, this
> > business was the STONE COLD NUTS. No table games had edges this large.
> > No bookies had edges this large. Plus, the action went on day after
> > day.
>
> > Soon, the insurance guys or nits as many were called since most of
> > them were only in the game for this were making too much money. So,
> > when this happens, the brain trusts go into action. In a few months,
> > the insurance guys were broke. Is this possible? How can they be
> > getting 10% and higher edge and go broke?
>
> > In theory, you can't if you have a big enough bankroll. And trust me,
> > between the dozens of these guys, you could buy a casino. So how did
> > they go broke or stop giving insurance?
>
> > Well, here's where the cheats started the cold deck bonanza. Now,
> > these insurance guys weren't dummies, not completely. They were leary
> > of many players. So, the cold decks were given to newby players who
> > were in on the scam. Soon, everyday these guys would lose due to the
> > cold decking or card mechanics. Soon, no more insurance.
>
> > Now to FullTilt or PokerStars. Many of you have been brainwashed into
> > thinking these beats are a normal thing. Oh, they do happen, but not
> > as often as they should. Now RAZZ is a game that is very easy to
> > figure out. You can see the live and dead cards. Get yourself an
> > insurance guy for online poker and see how long he lasts.
>
> > Razz is a game to try it on. Take a person with a made 7 on six cards,
> > with a possibility of improving. By seeing the oppositions board, the
> > math would be very easy to do. The opposition would either have a
> > maximum of 12 cards to catch to win if a 7 can win if he hits it, down
> > to 8 if he has to make a 6 to win. Plus, the live and dead cards. Give
> > the poker bookie a 15-20% edge and see how you do?
>
> > Then try it the other way, where you have to hit? If you people played
> > stud variations, you'd see how crooked the sites are.
>
> > What's good for casino's is always bad for players. They took out prop
> > players from online sites about the end of 2005. Prior to that, props
> > were human and paid to play in certain games and paid by the hand.
> > About all the sites had human props. What about now? The human props
> > played their own money and paid their own rake. Now they're gone. As I
> > stated, what's good for online sites or casino's is bad for the
> > players.
>
> > Instead of having human props now, the casino's have robotic props.
> > Most of you keep thinking your playing against robots, but this can't
> > be farther from the truth. These props are integrated into the
> > software. It's like playing a slot machine. Slot machines can be
> > programmed to payoff at any amount. In fact, about 20 years ago they
> > had the big poker machine scandal in Vegas when many machines were
> > programmed to NEVER allow a Royal Flush.
>
> > This is what I mean when I state robots on online sites. They can make
> > them look like idiots, always chasing and losing most of the time,
> > except in some key situations. They can work in tandem with other
> > props on the site and their stats would look like whatever the site
> > wanted them to look like.
>
> > Russ Georgiev
>
> >www.pokerunchecked.com
> >www.pokermafia.com
> >www.russgeorgiev.com
>
> Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities=
.
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>
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Date: 23 Jan 2009 15:45:42
From: FangBanger
Subject: Re: Want to Findout how crooked FullTilt is?---Russ G
On Jan 23 2009 1:02 AM, RussGeorgiev@aol.com wrote:

> Years ago, certain gambler hung around or sat in big games in Vegas
> for one purpose only, give insurance on big pots. In certain high
> stakes PL games, the money would go all-in with one card coming.
> Here's when the favorite would take insurance from one of these
> players.

YOU TALKING ABOUT SARGE FERRIS ?

Oneal Longson fashioned himself and insurance man foir a while but Sarge
had way more money
>
> Say the game was holdem and the guy had his opponent drawing to a 2
> outer? 4 cards on the board, 4 cards turned face up, leaving 44 cards.
> Having a 2 outer meant the favorite was 21-1 favorite. Here's where
> insurance kicked in. The guy with the hand would ask someone for
> insurance. A guy would offer say 18-1 or so, taking a very good edge.
> Instead of giving 7-1, an insurance guy would give 6-1. Now, this
> business was the STONE COLD NUTS. No table games had edges this large.
> No bookies had edges this large. Plus, the action went on day after
> day.
>
> Soon, the insurance guys or nits as many were called since most of
> them were only in the game for this were making too much money. So,
> when this happens, the brain trusts go into action. In a few months,
> the insurance guys were broke. Is this possible? How can they be
> getting 10% and higher edge and go broke?
>
> In theory, you can't if you have a big enough bankroll. And trust me,
> between the dozens of these guys, you could buy a casino. So how did
> they go broke or stop giving insurance?
>
> Well, here's where the cheats started the cold deck bonanza. Now,
> these insurance guys weren't dummies, not completely. They were leary
> of many players. So, the cold decks were given to newby players who
> were in on the scam. Soon, everyday these guys would lose due to the
> cold decking or card mechanics. Soon, no more insurance.
>
> Now to FullTilt or PokerStars. Many of you have been brainwashed into
> thinking these beats are a normal thing. Oh, they do happen, but not
> as often as they should. Now RAZZ is a game that is very easy to
> figure out. You can see the live and dead cards. Get yourself an
> insurance guy for online poker and see how long he lasts.
>
> Razz is a game to try it on. Take a person with a made 7 on six cards,
> with a possibility of improving. By seeing the oppositions board, the
> math would be very easy to do. The opposition would either have a
> maximum of 12 cards to catch to win if a 7 can win if he hits it, down
> to 8 if he has to make a 6 to win. Plus, the live and dead cards. Give
> the poker bookie a 15-20% edge and see how you do?
>
> Then try it the other way, where you have to hit? If you people played
> stud variations, you'd see how crooked the sites are.
>
> What's good for casino's is always bad for players. They took out prop
> players from online sites about the end of 2005. Prior to that, props
> were human and paid to play in certain games and paid by the hand.
> About all the sites had human props. What about now? The human props
> played their own money and paid their own rake. Now they're gone. As I
> stated, what's good for online sites or casino's is bad for the
> players.
>
> Instead of having human props now, the casino's have robotic props.
> Most of you keep thinking your playing against robots, but this can't
> be farther from the truth. These props are integrated into the
> software. It's like playing a slot machine. Slot machines can be
> programmed to payoff at any amount. In fact, about 20 years ago they
> had the big poker machine scandal in Vegas when many machines were
> programmed to NEVER allow a Royal Flush.
>
> This is what I mean when I state robots on online sites. They can make
> them look like idiots, always chasing and losing most of the time,
> except in some key situations. They can work in tandem with other
> props on the site and their stats would look like whatever the site
> wanted them to look like.
>
> Russ Georgiev
>
> www.pokerunchecked.com
> www.pokermafia.com
> www.russgeorgiev.com


Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
Voltaire

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Date: 22 Jan 2009 23:31:48
From: La Cosa Nostradamus
Subject: Re: Want to Findout how crooked FullTilt is?---Russ G
I've been saying this forever, just see who wins more than they should in
allin situations.
On Jan 23 2009 2:02 AM, RussGeorgiev@aol.com wrote:

> Years ago, certain gambler hung around or sat in big games in Vegas
> for one purpose only, give insurance on big pots. In certain high
> stakes PL games, the money would go all-in with one card coming.
> Here's when the favorite would take insurance from one of these
> players.
>
> Say the game was holdem and the guy had his opponent drawing to a 2
> outer? 4 cards on the board, 4 cards turned face up, leaving 44 cards.
> Having a 2 outer meant the favorite was 21-1 favorite. Here's where
> insurance kicked in. The guy with the hand would ask someone for
> insurance. A guy would offer say 18-1 or so, taking a very good edge.
> Instead of giving 7-1, an insurance guy would give 6-1. Now, this
> business was the STONE COLD NUTS. No table games had edges this large.
> No bookies had edges this large. Plus, the action went on day after
> day.
>
> Soon, the insurance guys or nits as many were called since most of
> them were only in the game for this were making too much money. So,
> when this happens, the brain trusts go into action. In a few months,
> the insurance guys were broke. Is this possible? How can they be
> getting 10% and higher edge and go broke?
>
> In theory, you can't if you have a big enough bankroll. And trust me,
> between the dozens of these guys, you could buy a casino. So how did
> they go broke or stop giving insurance?
>
> Well, here's where the cheats started the cold deck bonanza. Now,
> these insurance guys weren't dummies, not completely. They were leary
> of many players. So, the cold decks were given to newby players who
> were in on the scam. Soon, everyday these guys would lose due to the
> cold decking or card mechanics. Soon, no more insurance.
>
> Now to FullTilt or PokerStars. Many of you have been brainwashed into
> thinking these beats are a normal thing. Oh, they do happen, but not
> as often as they should. Now RAZZ is a game that is very easy to
> figure out. You can see the live and dead cards. Get yourself an
> insurance guy for online poker and see how long he lasts.
>
> Razz is a game to try it on. Take a person with a made 7 on six cards,
> with a possibility of improving. By seeing the oppositions board, the
> math would be very easy to do. The opposition would either have a
> maximum of 12 cards to catch to win if a 7 can win if he hits it, down
> to 8 if he has to make a 6 to win. Plus, the live and dead cards. Give
> the poker bookie a 15-20% edge and see how you do?
>
> Then try it the other way, where you have to hit? If you people played
> stud variations, you'd see how crooked the sites are.
>
> What's good for casino's is always bad for players. They took out prop
> players from online sites about the end of 2005. Prior to that, props
> were human and paid to play in certain games and paid by the hand.
> About all the sites had human props. What about now? The human props
> played their own money and paid their own rake. Now they're gone. As I
> stated, what's good for online sites or casino's is bad for the
> players.
>
> Instead of having human props now, the casino's have robotic props.
> Most of you keep thinking your playing against robots, but this can't
> be farther from the truth. These props are integrated into the
> software. It's like playing a slot machine. Slot machines can be
> programmed to payoff at any amount. In fact, about 20 years ago they
> had the big poker machine scandal in Vegas when many machines were
> programmed to NEVER allow a Royal Flush.
>
> This is what I mean when I state robots on online sites. They can make
> them look like idiots, always chasing and losing most of the time,
> except in some key situations. They can work in tandem with other
> props on the site and their stats would look like whatever the site
> wanted them to look like.
>
> Russ Georgiev
>
> www.pokerunchecked.com
> www.pokermafia.com
> www.russgeorgiev.com


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Date: 22 Jan 2009 23:35:42
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: Want to Findout how crooked FullTilt is?---Russ G
"La Cosa Nostradamus" <a6f44ce@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
news:4c8o46xiis.ln2@recgroups.com...

> I've been saying this forever, just see who wins more than they should in
> allin situations.
>

But there is a BIG difference here, Skillz. You cannot compare your griping
about crooked poker sites with what Russ is saying. It's apples and
oranges. For one thing, Russ is an outstanding poker player. But you suck.

-PP




   
Date: 23 Jan 2009 22:00:29
From: RAZZO RUSS SUCK THE BIG ONE
Subject: Re: Want to Findout how crooked FullTilt is?---Russ G
they keep sending me money in the mail



On Jan 23 2009 2:35 AM, Paul Popinjay wrote:

> "La Cosa Nostradamus" <a6f44ce@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> news:4c8o46xiis.ln2@recgroups.com...
>
> > I've been saying this forever, just see who wins more than they should in
> > allin situations.
> >
>
> But there is a BIG difference here, Skillz. You cannot compare your griping
> about crooked poker sites with what Russ is saying. It's apples and
> oranges. For one thing, Russ is an outstanding poker player. But you suck.
>
> -PP


BEND OVER RAZZO RUSS

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Date: 22 Jan 2009 23:21:34
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: Want to Findout how crooked FullTilt is?---Russ G
<RussGeorgiev@aol.com > wrote in message news:5325f131-8259-4635-b461-

<snip >

>
> This is what I mean when I state robots on online sites. They can make
> them look like idiots, always chasing and losing most of the time,
> except in some key situations. They can work in tandem with other
> props on the site and their stats would look like whatever the site
> wanted them to look like.
>

I don't know so much about the online poker sites, but when I first got into
online play I was heavier into online casinos. Let me assure you, there was
all kinds of shit going on, and there are probably archives that will back
me up on some of it. For instance, Casinomeister was a good "watch dog"
site, and I am quite sure they have some documentation about crooked online
casinos back then, and now too. There was a ton of it.

By the way, I still remember a good scandal about the software provider
behind Party Poker that had some serious issues in its casino software. If
I remember correctly, it kinda got washed under the rug. I don't remember
anything coming out of it. Kinda like the Steve Forte story, y'just never
hear about it, and probably won't anymore.

-PP





  
Date: 22 Jan 2009 23:28:08
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: Want to Findout how crooked FullTilt is?---Russ G
"Paul Popinjay" <paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net > wrote in message
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> <RussGeorgiev@aol.com> wrote in message news:5325f131-8259-4635-b461-
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> <snip>
>
>>
>> This is what I mean when I state robots on online sites. They can make
>> them look like idiots, always chasing and losing most of the time,
>> except in some key situations. They can work in tandem with other
>> props on the site and their stats would look like whatever the site
>> wanted them to look like.
>>
>
> I don't know so much about the online poker sites,


Off the top of my head, (somebody please stop me if I'm wrong), but wasn't
there a poker site that had bad press and reviews because of use of bots?
And wasn't "Burner" Turner connected with it or promoting it? I forget the
name of it. Someone refresh my memory. It had "blue" in the name, I think.




   
Date: 24 Jan 2009 06:07:48
From: Susan
Subject: Re: Want to Findout how crooked FullTilt is?---Russ G

"Paul Popinjay" <paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net > wrote in message
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> "Paul Popinjay" <paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>> <RussGeorgiev@aol.com> wrote in message news:5325f131-8259-4635-b461-
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>>
>>> This is what I mean when I state robots on online sites. They can make
>>> them look like idiots, always chasing and losing most of the time,
>>> except in some key situations. They can work in tandem with other
>>> props on the site and their stats would look like whatever the site
>>> wanted them to look like.
>>>
>>
>> I don't know so much about the online poker sites,
>
>
> Off the top of my head, (somebody please stop me if I'm wrong), but wasn't
> there a poker site that had bad press and reviews because of use of bots?
> And wasn't "Burner" Turner connected with it or promoting it? I forget
> the name of it. Someone refresh my memory. It had "blue" in the name, I
> think.

If you mean Robert Turner, wasn't it PokerBlue?




    
Date: 24 Jan 2009 04:32:11
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: Want to Findout how crooked FullTilt is?---Russ G
"Susan" <sdbratt48@netscape.net > wrote in message
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>

>>
>> Off the top of my head, (somebody please stop me if I'm wrong), but
>> wasn't there a poker site that had bad press and reviews because of use
>> of bots? And wasn't "Burner" Turner connected with it or promoting it? I
>> forget the name of it. Someone refresh my memory. It had "blue" in the
>> name, I think.
>
> If you mean Robert Turner, wasn't it PokerBlue?

Yeah, I think that's it. Do you remember what I'm saying as being factually
accurate? Wasn't there a lot of shit about them using bots?

-PP




     
Date: 24 Jan 2009 08:26:35
From: Susan
Subject: Re: Want to Findout how crooked FullTilt is?---Russ G

"Paul Popinjay" <paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net > wrote in message
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> "Susan" <sdbratt48@netscape.net> wrote in message
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>>
>
>>>
>>> Off the top of my head, (somebody please stop me if I'm wrong), but
>>> wasn't there a poker site that had bad press and reviews because of use
>>> of bots? And wasn't "Burner" Turner connected with it or promoting it?
>>> I forget the name of it. Someone refresh my memory. It had "blue" in
>>> the name, I think.
>>
>> If you mean Robert Turner, wasn't it PokerBlue?
>
> Yeah, I think that's it. Do you remember what I'm saying as being
> factually accurate? Wasn't there a lot of shit about them using bots?
>
> -PP

I seem to remember something, but can't find it. I think pokerblue was
Robert and Yosh.




      
Date: 24 Jan 2009 06:50:35
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: Want to Findout how crooked FullTilt is?---Russ G
"Susan" <sdbratt48@netscape.net > wrote in message
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> "Paul Popinjay" <paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>> "Susan" <sdbratt48@netscape.net> wrote in message
>> news:lwDel.203401$2w3.61705@newsfe19.iad...
>>>
>>
>>>>
>>>> Off the top of my head, (somebody please stop me if I'm wrong), but
>>>> wasn't there a poker site that had bad press and reviews because of use
>>>> of bots? And wasn't "Burner" Turner connected with it or promoting it?
>>>> I forget the name of it. Someone refresh my memory. It had "blue" in
>>>> the name, I think.
>>>
>>> If you mean Robert Turner, wasn't it PokerBlue?
>>
>> Yeah, I think that's it. Do you remember what I'm saying as being
>> factually accurate? Wasn't there a lot of shit about them using bots?
>>
>> -PP
>
> I seem to remember something, but can't find it. I think pokerblue was
> Robert and Yosh.

I'm not sure where it was either, but I think for one thing, I think
BonusWhores.com had the site blacklisted for using bots. Anyone is welcome
to correct me if I'm wrong. My memory may not be as good as it used to be,
but I'd bet a few bucks that I am correct about this. Of course, I bet on
McCain too, so what the fuck do I know.

-Paul "Easy Money" Popinjay