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Date: 09 Jan 2009 11:41:10
From: Wayne
Subject: UN levels war crimes warning at Israel
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/09/gaza-palestinians-israel-evacuees-zeitoun

Israel? War crimes? What a load of pro-Hamas bullshit. The UN has once
again proved that it is a thoroughly anti-semitic organisation, which
is determined to destroy the state of Israel. It is a proven fact that
all the civillian deaths in Gaza so far have been the result of Hamas
using human shields and there is no evidence otherwise. The UN also
allows Hamas to use human shields.




 
Date: 09 Jan 2009 21:47:28
From: Iceberg
Subject: Re: UN levels war crimes warning at Israel
"Wayne" <waynetv50@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:a51c5655-1668-4ab1-8341-4cf204cc0f0b@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/09/gaza-palestinians-israel-evacuees-zeitoun
>
> Israel? War crimes? What a load of pro-Hamas bullshit. The UN has once
> again proved that it is a thoroughly anti-semitic organisation, which
> is determined to destroy the state of Israel. It is a proven fact that
> all the civillian deaths in Gaza so far have been the result of Hamas
> using human shields and there is no evidence otherwise. The UN also
> allows Hamas to use human shields.

I thought the UN granted Israel it's statehood.




  
Date: 09 Jan 2009 20:55:49
From: risky biz
Subject: Re: UN levels war crimes warning at Israel
On Jan 9 2009 2:47 PM, Iceberg wrote:

> "Wayne" <waynetv50@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:a51c5655-1668-4ab1-8341-4cf204cc0f0b@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> >
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/09/gaza-palestinians-israel-evacuees-zeitoun
> >
> > Israel? War crimes? What a load of pro-Hamas bullshit. The UN has once
> > again proved that it is a thoroughly anti-semitic organisation, which
> > is determined to destroy the state of Israel. It is a proven fact that
> > all the civillian deaths in Gaza so far have been the result of Hamas
> > using human shields and there is no evidence otherwise. The UN also
> > allows Hamas to use human shields.
>
> I thought the UN granted Israel it's statehood.

That's when the UN was 100% taking orders from the US rather than 97.3%
like now.

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Date: 10 Jan 2009 00:10:16
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: UN levels war crimes warning at Israel
On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:47:28 GMT, "Iceberg"
<big_bad_iceberg@moc.oohay > wrote:

>"Wayne" <waynetv50@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:a51c5655-1668-4ab1-8341-4cf204cc0f0b@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/09/gaza-palestinians-israel-evacuees-zeitoun
>>
>> Israel? War crimes? What a load of pro-Hamas bullshit. The UN has once
>> again proved that it is a thoroughly anti-semitic organisation, which
>> is determined to destroy the state of Israel. It is a proven fact that
>> all the civillian deaths in Gaza so far have been the result of Hamas
>> using human shields and there is no evidence otherwise. The UN also
>> allows Hamas to use human shields.
>
>I thought the UN granted Israel it's statehood.
>









israel will once again be punished by God for this.


 
Date: 09 Jan 2009 13:23:44
From: Wayne
Subject: Re: UN levels war crimes warning at Israel
On 9 Jan, 21:15, andy...@gmail.com wrote:

> Yup! Rockets are fired into Israel, and when Israel strikes back the
> rockets are invariably fired from areas with civilians. The
> Palestinians should take responsibility for themselves (which they
> never will) and make Hamas stop this practice, or they will risk
> civilian casualties.

Yes. Good post. Hamas is 100% to blame for all the Palestinian deaths
and anyone who says otherwise, such is the UN, is a dumb anti-semite
and hell-bent on the destruction of the state of Israel. Why does the
UN think we need an "investigation" into the civillian deaths when the
Israeli army, who are clearly the most impartial body to launch such
an organisation, have already proven beyond doubt that Israel has no
culpability for any of the civillian dead in Gaza?

The world is simply crazy and full of anti-semites - where the hell is
the evidence that Israel is comitting war crimes? Israel has never
done this in the history of its existence.



  
Date: 09 Jan 2009 18:35:31
From: FL Turbo
Subject: Re: UN levels war crimes warning at Israel
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 13:23:44 -0800 (PST), Wayne <waynetv50@yahoo.com >
wrote:

>On 9 Jan, 21:15, andy...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Yup! Rockets are fired into Israel, and when Israel strikes back the
>> rockets are invariably fired from areas with civilians. The
>> Palestinians should take responsibility for themselves (which they
>> never will) and make Hamas stop this practice, or they will risk
>> civilian casualties.
>
>Yes. Good post. Hamas is 100% to blame for all the Palestinian deaths
>and anyone who says otherwise, such is the UN, is a dumb anti-semite
>and hell-bent on the destruction of the state of Israel. Why does the
>UN think we need an "investigation" into the civillian deaths when the
>Israeli army, who are clearly the most impartial body to launch such
>an organisation, have already proven beyond doubt that Israel has no
>culpability for any of the civillian dead in Gaza?
>

Claudia Rosett is a journalist who has specialized in investigations
of the UN.
She has previously exposed the "Oil for Food" scam that Saddam used to
get the UN to funnel money to him, ostensibly to benefit the average
Iraqi, but in effect enabled him to build his mansions all over the
country, and pay the Baathist thugs that kept his regime in power.

We have much the same situation in Gaza with a UN operation, UNRWA,
that has been going on for 60 years.

http://www.forbes.com/opinions/2009/01/07/gaza-hamas-unrwa-oped-cx_cr_0108rosett.html

Gaza Bedfellows UNRWA And Hamas
Claudia Rosett, 01.08.09, 12:00 AM EST
How they keep each other in business.

Once upon a time, terrorists had to hide from the forces of the free
world and filch their living on the sly. That's changing, thanks to
long-running efforts by the United Nations, bankrolled most
prominently by the U.S.

In the current violence of Gaza, we are seeing the fruition of one of
the most bizarre creations of modern diplomacy:
a UN-supported welfare enclave for terrorists.

Behind this lies a straightforward equation.

Gaza, with its 1.5 million people, runs almost entirely on
international handouts. The UN ranks it among the top per-capita aid
recipients on the planet.

And following the Israeli withdrawal in 2005, the Iranian-backed
terrorist group Hamas began consolidating power in Gaza--first via
elections in 2006, then via a bloody battle in June 2007, in which
Hamas drove out the rival Palestinian group Fatah and seized all power
in the enclave.

Since then, Hamas has been running Gaza as a territory reduced to
basically two industries: aid and terrorism.

Pivotal to this arrangement is one of the UN's oldest and most oddly
configured agencies: the UN Relief and Works Agency for Palestine
Refugees in the Near East, or UNRWA.

Set up in 1949 with a temporary, three-year mandate to provide aid and
jobs for Palestinian refugees, UNRWA has survived for almost 60 years,
expanding its scope, budget and influence by extending refugee status
to descendants of its beneficiaries.

Normal refugee aid tends to focus on finding ways to resettle
displaced people and integrate them back into normal, productive
lives.
UNRWA, by contrast, provides the main framework for ensuring that the
official population of Palestinian refugees remains a swelling source
of misery and mayhem--both for their neighbors and for the
Palestinians themselves.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------


From an original refugee population listed by UNRWA as some 900,000 in
1950, UNRWA now provides for a Palestinian "refugee" clientele of more
than 4.6 million.

They are spread throughout camps--which physically look more like
squalid towns--in Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, the West Bank and Gaza. Into
this system flows an annual UNRWA budget now well above $400 million
per year, doled out variously in the form of cash, goods, medical
care, schooling, job-training programs and so forth.

To handle these operations, UNRWA employs more than 24,000 staffers.
That's more than any other UN agency, including the UN High
Commissioner for Refugees, or UNHCR, which with some 6,300
staffers--about one-quarter the manpower of UNRWA--is responsible for
all other refugees worldwide, totaling more than 11 million.

At UNRWA, more than 99% of the staff are local Palestinians. They sit
at the many local levers of the UNRWA distribution machinery, which
under UNRWA policy takes on the coloration of and yields to the
policies of host governments--as UNRWA officials explained to U.S.
lawmakers who some years ago challenged the use of anti-Israeli
textbooks in UNRWA schools.

In today's terrorist-run Gaza, such an approach carries exactly the
kind of deadly implications now playing out--while UNRWA and other UN
officials call for an end to the violence.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------

UNRWA's interests in Gaza are by now so entwined and, in many ways, so
aligned with Hamas' interests that it is often hard to tell them
apart.

And, as UNRWA officials have aired their views and demands from the UN
stage, handouts for Gaza have been rolling in from all sides--some via
UNRWA, some through other channels.

This goes way beyond Israel allowing hundreds of aid trucks into Gaza,
even as the Israeli military is battling to shut down the rocket
launchers and destroy the arms-smuggling tunnels and weapons caches of
Hamas.

Support in cash and kind, in dollars and tons, has been pledged by
donors ranging from Iran to Japan to the European Union to the Arab
Gulf States to the U.S. (already the top donor to UNRWA, with $148
million in contributions last year, and now promising an immediate $5
million in response to UNRWA's latest flash appeal for Gaza, plus
another $80 million for the agency to spread around in places
including Gaza).

Plane-loads of relief, both in goods and services, have been announced
by donors ranging from Russia to Libya to Sudan.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------


This past September, Democratic Rep. Steve Rothman, with a bipartisan
group of five co-sponsors, submitted a concurrent resolution noting
that "UNRWA has employed staffers affiliated with terrorism."

The resolution cited specific examples of UNRWA ambulance and schools
having been used to abet terrorism and mentioned a number of figures,
including Awad al-Qiq, headmaster of an UNRWA school in Gaza, "who
also led Islamic Jihad's engineering unit that built bombs and Qassam
rockets."

However humane the intent of UNRWA officials, they have become de
facto enablers of Hamas' terrorist fiefdom in Gaza.

In pushing for an ever-bigger dole and in using the UN stage as a
megaphone to help elicit sympathy, drum up funds, denounce Israel and
drape in UN baby blue the interests and demands of the Iranian-backed
terrorists of Hamas, they do a terrible disservice not only to the
cause of world peace, but to the prospects of the Palestinians
themselves for forsaking terror and building better lives.

--------------------
Claudia Rosett, a journalist-in-residence with the Foundation for
Defense of Democracies, writes a weekly column on foreign affairs for
Forbes.com.



  
Date: 09 Jan 2009 18:21:31
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: UN levels war crimes warning at Israel

"Wayne" <waynetv50@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:e868635e-5089-4e1b-9a0a-406f83a75b28@r10g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On 9 Jan, 21:15, andy...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Yup! Rockets are fired into Israel, and when Israel strikes back the
>> rockets are invariably fired from areas with civilians. The
>> Palestinians should take responsibility for themselves (which they
>> never will) and make Hamas stop this practice, or they will risk
>> civilian casualties.
>
> Yes. Good post. Hamas is 100% to blame for all the Palestinian deaths
> and anyone who says otherwise, such is the UN, is a dumb anti-semite
> and hell-bent on the destruction of the state of Israel. Why does the
> UN think we need an "investigation" into the civillian deaths when the
> Israeli army, who are clearly the most impartial body to launch such
> an organisation, have already proven beyond doubt that Israel has no
> culpability for any of the civillian dead in Gaza?
>
> The world is simply crazy and full of anti-semites - where the hell is
> the evidence that Israel is comitting war crimes? Israel has never
> done this in the history of its existence.

Tell the truth Wayne. Did it sting much when you had that swastika tattooed
on your ass?
BTW, fuck Hamas, fuck Hezbollah and fuck the Syrian and Iranian scum bags
that support them.

Irish Mike




 
Date: 09 Jan 2009 13:15:45
From:
Subject: Re: UN levels war crimes warning at Israel
On Jan 9, 2:41=A0pm, Wayne <waynet...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/09/gaza-palestinians-israel-...
>
> Israel? War crimes? What a load of pro-Hamas bullshit. The UN has once
> again proved that it is a thoroughly anti-semitic organisation, which
> is determined to destroy the state of Israel. It is a proven fact that
> all the civillian deaths in Gaza so far have been the result of Hamas
> using human shields and there is no evidence otherwise. The UN also
> allows Hamas to use human shields.

Yup! Rockets are fired into Israel, and when Israel strikes back the
rockets are invariably fired from areas with civilians. The
Palestinians should take responsibility for themselves (which they
never will) and make Hamas stop this practice, or they will risk
civilian casualties.

AndyNYC