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Date: 03 Feb 2009 13:41:53
From: RussGeorgiev@aol.com
Subject: To John_Brian_K-----Russ G
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John, no disrespect, but more people cheat on their taxes than you can
imagine. I'm sure the group you know, are decent law abiding citizens
who pay their taxes, except for a few. But, the problem with the group
you know, is it's probably very difficult to cheat on their taxes.
What Fangy states about casino employees is right on the money. The
same goes for professional poker players and professional gamblers.
They do it because it's so easy to get away with it and almost
impossible to prove.
Many occupations have a lot of ways of screwing the IRS and most of
those in those occupations know it.
I heard an interview with Warren Buffet recently about taxes. He
stated, if I heard correctly, that he paid $26,000 in personal taxes
for a recent year. He stated his secretaries paid more personal tax
than he did. WTF?
When you talk, you're talking for a large segment of people, but I
would guess their income is easily below the $100,000 mark and most
even lower than that.
When people get where they can save/steal large amounts, the risk/
reward changes. It's like with Ivan Boesky and Michael Milken. Both
scammed Wall street for incredible amounts. Both were fined hundreds
of millions and received some jail time in minimum security.
Both are filthy rich now, perhaps richer than before. How many people
on earth wouldn't go to a minimum security prison for 2 years or less
in order to come out filthy rich and square with society?
It's a far better way to go than getting a sign-up bonus and going to
Iraq or Afghanistan. Given the choice of serving two years in the Army
in Iraq/Afganhistan and perhaps getting killed or wounded and coming
home with little financial aide or going to a Federal Minimum security
prison for two years and coming out FILTHY RICH, I think the vast
majority would opt for prison and money.
Russ Georgiev
www.pokermafia.com
www.pokerunchecked.com
www.russgeorgiev.com
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Date: 04 Feb 2009 06:45:18
From: John_Brian_K
Subject: Re: To John_Brian_K-----Russ G
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> John, no disrespect, but more people cheat on their taxes than you can
> imagine. I'm sure the group you know, are decent law abiding citizens
> who pay their taxes, except for a few. But, the problem with the group
> you know, is it's probably very difficult to cheat on their taxes.
Everyone pays tax. I guess it is just a formality HOW you do it. I
guarantee there are more people who pay what they owe than people that
'cheat', but what do I know right?
Tricky accounting does not fall into the cheat category IMO.
Everything is relative.
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You must not think me necessarily foolish because I am facetious,
nor will I consider you necessarily wise because you are grave.
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47.5% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
JBK
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Date: 04 Feb 2009 15:33:49
From: FangBanger
Subject: Re: To John_Brian_K-----Russ G
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On Feb 4 2009 8:45 AM, John_Brian_K wrote:
> > John, no disrespect, but more people cheat on their taxes than you can
> > imagine. I'm sure the group you know, are decent law abiding citizens
> > who pay their taxes, except for a few. But, the problem with the group
> > you know, is it's probably very difficult to cheat on their taxes.
>
> Everyone pays tax. I guess it is just a formality HOW you do it. I
> guarantee there are more people who pay what they owe than people that
> 'cheat', but what do I know right?
>
> Tricky accounting does not fall into the cheat category IMO.
So.. if you trick someone out of money by false pretenses , it ISNT
STEALING ?
lol.. so ignorant and sooo proud !!
>
> Everything is relative.
>
> ==========================================
> You must not think me necessarily foolish because I am facetious,
> nor will I consider you necessarily wise because you are grave.
> ==============================
> 47.5% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
> JBK
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
Voltaire
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Date: 04 Feb 2009 06:49:29
From: Will_gamble
Subject: Re: To John_Brian_K-----Russ G
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On Feb 4 2009 8:45 AM, John_Brian_K wrote:
> Everyone pays tax. I guess it is just a formality HOW you do it. I
> guarantee there are more people who pay what they owe than people that
> 'cheat', but what do I know right?
The only ones who don't cheat are the ones that don't itemize. Of the
ones that do itemize, I imagine 95% of them fudge on charitable
contributions. Not a major cheat, but technically a cheat.
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Date: 03 Feb 2009 17:05:01
From: RussGeorgiev@aol.com
Subject: Re: To John_Brian_K-----Russ G
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Paul
I didn't say LA County. That's about the same as the front line
fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan. Lets say you're in your 20s and you
have a choice of fighting in Iraq or Afghanistan or going to a FEDERAL
Minimum Security facility (meaning TV, lax rules, aka like Martha
Stewart attended), which would you choose?
Please, we can all make money. But, make MONEY? The kind of money
Boesky and Milken made/stole celebs dream about making. In the Army
you're taking orders, being told when to go to sleep and wake up. Not
much difference in a realistic rationalization. Plus, you're filthy
rich when you get out. It's not like going to a 7-11 and robbing them
for $20 and spending your life in jail.
On Feb 3, 4:23=EF=BF=BDpm, "Paul Popinjay" <paulpopin...@sbcglobal.net > wro=
te:
> <RussGeorg...@aol.com> wrote in message news:cb1bea5f-42da-4b26-baeb-
>
> =EF=BF=BDHow many people
>
> > on earth wouldn't go to a minimum security prison for 2 years or less
> > in order to come out filthy rich and square with society?
>
> I wouldn't. =EF=BF=BDNo way. =EF=BF=BDI would not even voluntarily do six=
months in the Los
> Angeles County Jail for a million dollars. =EF=BF=BDI just wouldn't. =EF=
=BF=BDFuck that
> shit. =EF=BF=BDI've wasted enough time out of my life. =EF=BF=BDWhen you =
do time, you don't
> get that time back. =EF=BF=BDOnce it's gone, it's gone for good. =EF=BF=
=BDI can always make
> money. =EF=BF=BDFreedom is more important than money. =EF=BF=BDObviously,=
I would rather be
> wealthy, AND free. =EF=BF=BDBut I would rather be broke and free than ric=
h and in
> the slammer. =EF=BF=BDBy the way, it's easy to say "just two years". =EF=
=BF=BDBut two years
> can be a long fucking time. =EF=BF=BDA VERY long time. =EF=BF=BDLife is n=
ot a fucking movie.
>
> -PP
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Date: 03 Feb 2009 16:56:27
From: Porsche_Dan
Subject: Re: To John_Brian_K-----Russ G
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Everyone I know, especially at the highest level of taxable income, gets
creative at tax time. Commingling business and personal expenses is the
most common, questionable deductions is a close second. We are all tax
cheats at one time or another, believe it.
It's all about taxable income. Control it and your rate goes down. So many
loop holes, so little time to enjoy them.
On Feb 3 2009 1:41 PM, RussGeorgiev@aol.com wrote:
> John, no disrespect, but more people cheat on their taxes than you can
> imagine. I'm sure the group you know, are decent law abiding citizens
> who pay their taxes, except for a few. But, the problem with the group
> you know, is it's probably very difficult to cheat on their taxes.
>
> What Fangy states about casino employees is right on the money. The
> same goes for professional poker players and professional gamblers.
> They do it because it's so easy to get away with it and almost
> impossible to prove.
>
> Many occupations have a lot of ways of screwing the IRS and most of
> those in those occupations know it.
>
> I heard an interview with Warren Buffet recently about taxes. He
> stated, if I heard correctly, that he paid $26,000 in personal taxes
> for a recent year. He stated his secretaries paid more personal tax
> than he did. WTF?
>
> When you talk, you're talking for a large segment of people, but I
> would guess their income is easily below the $100,000 mark and most
> even lower than that.
>
> When people get where they can save/steal large amounts, the risk/
> reward changes. It's like with Ivan Boesky and Michael Milken. Both
> scammed Wall street for incredible amounts. Both were fined hundreds
> of millions and received some jail time in minimum security.
>
> Both are filthy rich now, perhaps richer than before. How many people
> on earth wouldn't go to a minimum security prison for 2 years or less
> in order to come out filthy rich and square with society?
>
> It's a far better way to go than getting a sign-up bonus and going to
> Iraq or Afghanistan. Given the choice of serving two years in the Army
> in Iraq/Afganhistan and perhaps getting killed or wounded and coming
> home with little financial aide or going to a Federal Minimum security
> prison for two years and coming out FILTHY RICH, I think the vast
> majority would opt for prison and money.
>
> Russ Georgiev
>
> www.pokermafia.com
> www.pokerunchecked.com
> www.russgeorgiev.com
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Date: 03 Feb 2009 16:23:52
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: To John_Brian_K-----Russ G
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<RussGeorgiev@aol.com > wrote in message news:cb1bea5f-42da-4b26-baeb-
How many people
> on earth wouldn't go to a minimum security prison for 2 years or less
> in order to come out filthy rich and square with society?
>
I wouldn't. No way. I would not even voluntarily do six months in the Los
Angeles County Jail for a million dollars. I just wouldn't. Fuck that
shit. I've wasted enough time out of my life. When you do time, you don't
get that time back. Once it's gone, it's gone for good. I can always make
money. Freedom is more important than money. Obviously, I would rather be
wealthy, AND free. But I would rather be broke and free than rich and in
the slammer. By the way, it's easy to say "just two years". But two years
can be a long fucking time. A VERY long time. Life is not a fucking movie.
-PP
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Date: 03 Feb 2009 16:00:58
From: RussGeorgiev@aol.com
Subject: Re: To John_Brian_K-----Russ G
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When you get old, hearing is the second thing that goes:).
On Feb 3, 3:01=EF=BF=BDpm, NG-USER-777 <NGUSER...@net.com > wrote:
> RussGeorg...@aol.com wrote:
> > I heard an interview with Warren Buffet recently about taxes. He
> > stated, if I heard correctly, that he paid $26,000 in personal taxes
> > for a recent year. He stated his secretaries paid more personal tax
> > than he did. WTF?
>
> You heard wrong. She paid a higher percentage.
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Date: 03 Feb 2009 18:01:22
From: NG-USER-777
Subject: Re: To John_Brian_K-----Russ G
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RussGeorgiev@aol.com wrote:
> I heard an interview with Warren Buffet recently about taxes. He
> stated, if I heard correctly, that he paid $26,000 in personal taxes
> for a recent year. He stated his secretaries paid more personal tax
> than he did. WTF?
You heard wrong. She paid a higher percentage.
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Date: 04 Feb 2009 06:21:07
From: FangBanger
Subject: Re: To John_Brian_K-----Russ G
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On Feb 3 2009 5:01 PM, NG-USER-777 wrote:
> RussGeorgiev@aol.com wrote:
>
> > I heard an interview with Warren Buffet recently about taxes. He
> > stated, if I heard correctly, that he paid $26,000 in personal taxes
> > for a recent year. He stated his secretaries paid more personal tax
> > than he did. WTF?
>
> You heard wrong. She paid a higher percentage.
True !! And if you think Warren Buffet cheats on his taxes .. you are
insane . I guarantee you everything he does is legal
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
Voltaire
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