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Date: 05 Feb 2009 22:46:43
From: DonkeyBanAA
Subject: Russ = poker Pro
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i studied with russ a few lessons ___ Dam he knows his poker and how to
read player
Thanks Russ for the lessons -- I know it will help me in the future
o0o good luck burros
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Date: 06 Feb 2009 01:58:22
From: Porsche_Dan
Subject: Re: Russ = poker Pro
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On Feb 5, 10:46=A0pm, "DonkeyBanAA" <freddiearba...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> i studied with russ a few lessons ___ Dam he knows his poker and how to
> read player
> Thanks Russ for the lessons -- I know it will help me in the future
>
> o0o good luck burros
>
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If you are talking about Stud you are right. Last time I played with
Russ I won thousands of dollars in a RNG game on PokerStars. Russ
called out the hands spot on. Seriously, It was 30/60 and we finished
the session + $6k I think? Could have been $8k. We kept breaking the
table, it was that bad. Stud is a game of skill though, flop games not
so much.
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Date: 11 Feb 2009 10:37:16
From: RussGeorgiev@aol.com
Subject: Re: Russ = poker Pro
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You haven't a clue to what your saying. Me trying to set up people on
RGP for a scam, even a small scam? If I asked dozens of RGP regulars
for a couple-few hundred, this would certainly qualify as 'small
scams' in your book'? Well, I have news for you, I could easily ask
and get these amounts from at least a couple of dozen regular RGPers.
It certainly makes no sense to spend $100,000 to try and beat a couple
of dozen RGPers for $200 or so each. There have been many discussions
where I had gotten sick in previous years and gone into large debt
since I was sick and in bed. Large debts meaning owing personal
amounts of over several hundred thousand. It was all paid back.
Between, 1988 and 1992, I had five heart attacks. In 1993 or 94, I had
a quadruple bypass, which had me laid up quite a while.
On Feb 11, 8:56=EF=BF=BDam, "John_Brian_K" <a7ec...@webnntp.invalid > wrote:
> > And as DoggyFuck says Russ is setting me up for a big scam........ Coul=
d
> > be, but that is part of the fun now isn't it?
>
> No he is not setting you up for a big scam. =EF=BF=BDYou and him and a fe=
w others
> are trying desperately to set up as many other people as you can for a
> scam.
>
> Russ is a scammer it is in his blood, he boasts about it. =EF=BF=BDI am s=
ure their
> is nothing more he would like to do than scam a few people on here for
> 'peanuts'.
>
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> You must not think me necessarily foolish because I am facetious,
> nor will =EF=BF=BDI =EF=BF=BDconsider you =EF=BF=BDnecessarily wise =EF=
=BF=BDbecause you are =EF=BF=BDgrave.
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> 47.5% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
> JBK
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Date: 11 Feb 2009 11:25:08
From: FangBanger
Subject: Re: Russ = poker Pro
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On Feb 11 2009 12:37 PM, RussGeorgiev@aol.com wrote:
> You haven't a clue to what your saying. Me trying to set up people on
> RGP for a scam, even a small scam? If I asked dozens of RGP regulars
> for a couple-few hundred, this would certainly qualify as 'small
> scams' in your book'? Well, I have news for you, I could easily ask
> and get these amounts from at least a couple of dozen regular RGPers.
>
> It certainly makes no sense to spend $100,000 to try and beat a couple
> of dozen RGPers for $200 or so each. There have been many discussions
> where I had gotten sick in previous years and gone into large debt
> since I was sick and in bed. Large debts meaning owing personal
> amounts of over several hundred thousand. It was all paid back.
> Between, 1988 and 1992, I had five heart attacks. In 1993 or 94, I had
> a quadruple bypass, which had me laid up quite a while.
Russ , you have gone to great lengths to position yourself as a ruthless ,
vindictive , liar and thief.
YOU MADE YOUR BED .. Your outrage at the normal skepticism is comical to
watch !!
>
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 11, 8:56�am, "John_Brian_K" <a7ec...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> > > And as DoggyFuck says Russ is setting me up for a big scam........ Could
> > > be, but that is part of the fun now isn't it?
> >
> > No he is not setting you up for a big scam. �You and him and a few others
> > are trying desperately to set up as many other people as you can for a
> > scam.
> >
> > Russ is a scammer it is in his blood, he boasts about it. �I am sure
their
> > is nothing more he would like to do than scam a few people on here for
> > 'peanuts'.
> >
> > ==========================================
> > You must not think me necessarily foolish because I am facetious,
> > nor will �I �consider you �necessarily wise �because you are
�grave.
> > ==============================
> > 47.5% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
> > JBK
> >
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Date: 10 Feb 2009 12:21:18
From: RussGeorgiev@aol.com
Subject: Re: Russ = poker Pro
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Barry move down and play me? I had played Barry numerous times over
the years and he'd always quit. Don't give up your day job, for as a
comedian you suck.
On Feb 8, 10:33=EF=BF=BDpm, "Wayne Vinson" <a7a8...@webnntp.invalid > wrote:
> On Feb 8 2009 10:03 PM, RussGeorg...@aol.com wrote:
>
> > Right back at you. FACT: He didn't play me. Razz0 found us a neutral
> > site, but Barry didn't want to travel a couple of hundred miles to
> > Oregon.
>
> Why would Barry travel so he can move down and play you? =EF=BF=BDYou're =
the one
> dying to prove he;'s a world class player. =EF=BF=BDYou're the one who ra=
n away
> like a scared little girl.
>
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Date: 10 Feb 2009 10:56:49
From: RussGeorgiev@aol.com
Subject: Re: Russ = poker Pro
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The reason you know I don't have a program capable of reading the
hands is because I post on RGP. If I had this program, I'd be using it
24/7.
On Feb 6, 4:29=EF=BF=BDpm, "FangBanger" <a29b...@webnntp.invalid > wrote:
> On Feb 6 2009 9:57 AM, Porsche_Dan wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 6 2009 7:22 AM, FangBanger wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 6 2009 3:58 AM, Porsche_Dan wrote:
>
> > > > On Feb 5, 10:46=EF=BF=BDpm, "DonkeyBanAA" <freddiearba...@yahoo.com=
> wrote:
> > > > > i studied with russ a few lessons ___ Dam he knows his poker and =
how to
> > > > > read player
> > > > > Thanks Russ for the lessons -- I know it will help me in the futu=
re
>
> > > > > o0o good luck burros
>
> > > > If you are talking about Stud you are right. Last time I played wit=
h
> > > > Russ I won thousands of dollars in a RNG game on PokerStars. Russ
> > > > called out the hands spot on. Seriously, It was 30/60 and we finish=
ed
> > > > the session + $6k I think? Could have been $8k. We kept breaking th=
e
> > > > table, it was that bad. Stud is a game of skill though, flop games =
not
> > > > so much.
>
> > > So you and Russ cheated the game ?
>
> > Russ and I spoke by phone, he taught me how he reads the board and bets
> > while I played. He was not in the game, just watching. With Russ's help=
it
> > sure felt like cheating though. A lot of what he said goes against comm=
on
> > poker strategy. But as most successful cash players know, TVSM poker
> > strategy is wrong.
>
> > I don't play Omaha, but I have watched Russ crush Hi/Lo games.
>
> > If you do play with Russ play in the mornings, he does quit well agains=
t
> > the Euro crowd. Russ also likes his evening cocktails! ;-)
>
> How do you know that Russ doesnt have a program to see cards , and has
> been put out of business , and is using your account to pick up a few
> bucks ?
>
> What if he is hustling you ?
>
> What if he is setting you up for some big "stake" deal and will fuck you
> silly ?
>
> What if Russ's hand reading ability is no better than any average player =
,
> and he simply "forced" it onto you , adding some smoke , and you ate it u=
p
> ?
>
> I have a friend who plays in the HORSE game on FTP every day , and I will
> sweat him , and guess his cards , as the action goes on .. it aint rocket
> science
>
> YOU ARE BEING PLAYED FOR A TRICK
>
> And for anyone who thinks these things are out of the question .. hasnt
> Russ already convinced us that he is a cheatin , hustling scumbag ?
>
> Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities=
.
> Voltaire
>
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Date: 10 Feb 2009 17:15:47
From: FangBanger
Subject: Re: Russ = poker Pro
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On Feb 10 2009 12:56 PM, RussGeorgiev@aol.com wrote:
> The reason you know I don't have a program capable of reading the
> hands is because I post on RGP. If I had this program, I'd be using it
> 24/7.
OK NOW WAIT A MINUTE !! You make the above claim , and you say that you
have money , and you say that you are a WCP , and yet you dont play any
more ?
Now which is it ?
If you "could read the hole cards you would always be playing ".. but you
said that the way you cheated was 'ULTRA LUCRATIVE " .. SO WHY WOULD YOU
STOP?
on one hand you say you dont play anymore , then you say you would if you
could cheat like that .. then you say that your cheating methods would
still work .
The same exact logic that you pasted Wayne (Moron ) Vinson with.. could in
fact be used on you as well.
You need to seperate your fraudulent statemnts
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 6, 4:29�pm, "FangBanger" <a29b...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> > On Feb 6 2009 9:57 AM, Porsche_Dan wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Feb 6 2009 7:22 AM, FangBanger wrote:
> >
> > > > On Feb 6 2009 3:58 AM, Porsche_Dan wrote:
> >
> > > > > On Feb 5, 10:46�pm, "DonkeyBanAA" <freddiearba...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > i studied with russ a few lessons ___ Dam he knows his poker and
how to
> > > > > > read player
> > > > > > Thanks Russ for the lessons -- I know it will help me in the future
> >
> > > > > > o0o good luck burros
> >
> > > > > If you are talking about Stud you are right. Last time I played with
> > > > > Russ I won thousands of dollars in a RNG game on PokerStars. Russ
> > > > > called out the hands spot on. Seriously, It was 30/60 and we finished
> > > > > the session + $6k I think? Could have been $8k. We kept breaking the
> > > > > table, it was that bad. Stud is a game of skill though, flop games
not
> > > > > so much.
> >
> > > > So you and Russ cheated the game ?
> >
> > > Russ and I spoke by phone, he taught me how he reads the board and bets
> > > while I played. He was not in the game, just watching. With Russ's help
it
> > > sure felt like cheating though. A lot of what he said goes against common
> > > poker strategy. But as most successful cash players know, TVSM poker
> > > strategy is wrong.
> >
> > > I don't play Omaha, but I have watched Russ crush Hi/Lo games.
> >
> > > If you do play with Russ play in the mornings, he does quit well against
> > > the Euro crowd. Russ also likes his evening cocktails! ;-)
> >
> > How do you know that Russ doesnt have a program to see cards , and has
> > been put out of business , and is using your account to pick up a few
> > bucks ?
> >
> > What if he is hustling you ?
> >
> > What if he is setting you up for some big "stake" deal and will fuck you
> > silly ?
> >
> > What if Russ's hand reading ability is no better than any average player ,
> > and he simply "forced" it onto you , adding some smoke , and you ate it up
> > ?
> >
> > I have a friend who plays in the HORSE game on FTP every day , and I will
> > sweat him , and guess his cards , as the action goes on .. it aint rocket
> > science
> >
> > YOU ARE BEING PLAYED FOR A TRICK
> >
> > And for anyone who thinks these things are out of the question .. hasnt
> > Russ already convinced us that he is a cheatin , hustling scumbag ?
> >
> > Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities..
> > Voltaire
> >
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Date: 10 Feb 2009 12:10:49
From: Wayne Vinson
Subject: Re: Russ = poker Pro
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On Feb 10 2009 12:56 PM, RussGeorgiev@aol.com wrote:
> The reason you know I don't have a program capable of reading the
> hands is because I post on RGP. If I had this program, I'd be using it
> 24/7.
This I can buy. I wouldn't trust you to make correct change, but I would
be amazed if you passed up a cheating opportunity.
Wayne Vinson
http://cardsharp.org/
Wayne (dot) Vinson (at) gmail (dot) com
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Date: 08 Feb 2009 20:03:59
From: RussGeorgiev@aol.com
Subject: Re: Russ = poker Pro
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Right back at you. FACT: He didn't play me. Razz0 found us a neutral
site, but Barry didn't want to travel a couple of hundred miles to
Oregon.
On Feb 8, 5:27=EF=BF=BDpm, "Wayne Vinson" <a7a8...@webnntp.invalid > wrote:
> On Feb 8 2009 4:49 PM, RussGeorg...@aol.com wrote:
>
> > Well, it won't go and play Beal and negotiation on a neutral site is
> > out. He told me where he wanted to play, no negotiations at a neutral
> > site. Please show me a post where he offered to negotiate and not
> > dictate?
>
> Fact: you didn't play him.
>
> Excuses: numerous and humorous.
>
> Entertainment value: high
>
> Carry on, Russ. =EF=BF=BDCarry on.
>
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> Wayne (dot) Vinson (at) gmail (dot) com
>
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Date: 08 Feb 2009 22:33:08
From: Wayne Vinson
Subject: Re: Russ = poker Pro
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On Feb 8 2009 10:03 PM, RussGeorgiev@aol.com wrote:
> Right back at you. FACT: He didn't play me. Razz0 found us a neutral
> site, but Barry didn't want to travel a couple of hundred miles to
> Oregon.
Why would Barry travel so he can move down and play you? You're the one
dying to prove he;'s a world class player. You're the one who ran away
like a scared little girl.
Wayne Vinson
http://cardsharp.org/
Wayne (dot) Vinson (at) gmail (dot) com
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Date: 08 Feb 2009 14:56:30
From: RussGeorgiev@aol.com
Subject: Re: Russ = poker Pro
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You kill filed me a matter of hours ago and here you are back
attacking me. You are a JOKE.
On Feb 8, 2:57=EF=BF=BDpm, "XaQ Morphy" <a1c5...@webnntp.invalid > wrote:
> On Feb 8 2009 2:49 PM, Wayne Vinson wrote:
>
> > Russ - if you want to show people you can win, all you have to do is go
> > out and do it. =EF=BF=BDYou don't need one of us to put up money. =EF=
=BF=BDUnless you're
> > broke of course.
>
> > Once a cheat, always a cheat.
>
> Holy shit, Russ is talking trash? =EF=BF=BDI killfiled him after his 1982=
spamming
> attack, but that's pretty damn funny. =EF=BF=BDHe made up the most ridicu=
lous
> excuses I've ever seen to turn down 4 legitimate challenges and now he's
> talking smack.
>
> What a loser.
>
> ---
> Morphy
> xaqmor...@donkeymanifesto.comhttp://www.donkeymanifesto.com
>
> "I think they are mad that i am borderline psycho" =EF=BF=BD--igotskillz
>
> "It's unfortunate that there are loons on both sides completely
> obfuscating what's going on." --Official RGP Mantra
>
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Date: 08 Feb 2009 14:49:41
From: RussGeorgiev@aol.com
Subject: Re: Russ = poker Pro
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Well, it won't go and play Beal and negotiation on a neutral site is
out. He told me where he wanted to play, no negotiations at a neutral
site. Please show me a post where he offered to negotiate and not
dictate?
On Feb 8, 1:00=EF=BF=BDpm, "Wayne Vinson" <a7a8...@webnntp.invalid > wrote:
> > Russ - if you want to show people you can win, all you have to do is go
> > out and do it. =EF=BF=BDYou don't need one of us to put up money. =EF=
=BF=BDUnless you're
> > broke of course.
>
> > Once a cheat, always a cheat.
>
> > Wayne Vinson
> >http://cardsharp.org/
> > Wayne (dot) Vinson (at) gmail (dot) com
>
> I should also mention that if you wanted to prove your ability, there was
> no better chance than the Barry Greenstein match. =EF=BF=BDI'm sure he's =
still
> game.
>
> Wayne Vinsonhttp://cardsharp.org/
> Wayne (dot) Vinson (at) gmail (dot) com
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Date: 08 Feb 2009 17:27:14
From: Wayne Vinson
Subject: Re: Russ = poker Pro
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On Feb 8 2009 4:49 PM, RussGeorgiev@aol.com wrote:
> Well, it won't go and play Beal and negotiation on a neutral site is
> out. He told me where he wanted to play, no negotiations at a neutral
> site. Please show me a post where he offered to negotiate and not
> dictate?
Fact: you didn't play him.
Excuses: numerous and humorous.
Entertainment value: high
Carry on, Russ. Carry on.
Wayne Vinson
http://cardsharp.org/
Wayne (dot) Vinson (at) gmail (dot) com
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Date: 08 Feb 2009 14:47:28
From: RussGeorgiev@aol.com
Subject: Re: Russ = poker Pro
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Where did I state YOU PUT UP THE MONEY?
On Feb 8, 12:49=EF=BF=BDpm, "Wayne Vinson" <a7a8...@webnntp.invalid > wrote:
> On Feb 8 2009 12:38 PM, RussGeorg...@aol.com wrote:
>
> > It's all quiet on the Western Front. Also, the Eastern, Northern and
> > Southern Fronts also. It's not even a challenge, more like a gift.
> > But, they don't want to show I can win:). It would show they don't
> > have a clue to what they're talking about.
>
> Russ - if you want to show people you can win, all you have to do is go
> out and do it. =EF=BF=BDYou don't need one of us to put up money. =EF=BF=
=BDUnless you're
> broke of course.
>
> Once a cheat, always a cheat.
>
> Wayne Vinsonhttp://cardsharp.org/
> Wayne (dot) Vinson (at) gmail (dot) com
>
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Date: 08 Feb 2009 16:06:39
From: Wayne Vinson
Subject: Re: Russ = poker Pro
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On Feb 8 2009 4:47 PM, RussGeorgiev@aol.com wrote:
> Where did I state YOU PUT UP THE MONEY?
If you wanted to play poker on your own money you could do it without any
involvement from anyone else.
Once a cheat, always a cheat.
Wayne Vinson
http://cardsharp.org/
Wayne (dot) Vinson (at) gmail (dot) com
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Date: 08 Feb 2009 10:38:10
From: RussGeorgiev@aol.com
Subject: Re: Russ = poker Pro
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It's all quiet on the Western Front. Also, the Eastern, Northern and
Southern Fronts also. It's not even a challenge, more like a gift.
But, they don't want to show I can win:). It would show they don't
have a clue to what they're talking about.
On Feb 8, 8:32=EF=BF=BDam, herdpm <Her...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Feb 7, 9:03=EF=BF=BDpm, "RussGeorg...@aol.com" <RussGeorg...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > That's how stupid you really are Wino. I love confrontations. You
> > haven't a clue to how much I love confrontations. I live for revenge
> > and to insult those that attack me. There are 1000s of posts on Google
> > that most of you haven't a clue about.
>
> > I played for a whole month educating and winning people money, backing
> > the whole proposition and not making a dime. I sent out over 4000
> > Cheating Tapes and DVDS, paid postage and didn't charge a dime. Sent
> > out hundreds ofwww.pokermafia.comT-shirts, didn't charge people a
> > dime.
>
> > Backed at least 10 total strangers for an amount in excess of $50,000
> > in the 2005 WSOp events, didn't get a cash. Many I backed in numerous
> > events. I even backed Razz0 in an event.
>
> > Anyone who signed up for my site, is now a lifetime member. I don't
> > charge. I don't accept avertising. I have given away at least $100,000
> > to people from RGP. I have helped dozens who came to me that needed
> > help. No, I'm not going to tell you who asked.
>
> > RGP was my vehicle to reach the professional players who all know me.
> > Yes, the old guys:).
>
> > I'll even do the same with you. Put up all the money, play online and
> > you post the results. Better yet, we tell RGP so they can watch. Plus,
> > you get to keep all the money won and if there is a loss, I will take
> > the whole loss.
>
> > Russ Georgiev
>
> >www.pokermafia.comwww.pokerunchecked.comwww.russgeorgiev.com
>
> > On Feb 7, 9:48 am, "Wayne Vinson" <a7a8...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 7 2009 11:28 AM, XaQ Morphy wrote:
>
> > > > On Feb 6 2009 7:44 PM, Porsche_Dan wrote:
>
> > > > > Russ gets a cut of the winnings. No winnings no cuts.
>
> > > > So you put up the entire buyin, if you lose you get nothing but if =
you win
> > > > Russ takes a cut? WHAT A BARGAIN!!!
>
> > > > ---
> > > > Morphy
> > > > xaqmor...@donkeymanifesto.com
> > > >http://www.donkeymanifesto.com
>
> > > I think it's even more hilarious that a supposedly skilled player lik=
e
> > > Russ who can supposedly crush 30/60 has to make his money via coachin=
g
> > > deals. If he were really that good he'd have no interest in such a de=
al
> > > because he's be rolled to play MUCH bigger himself.
>
> > > Wayne Vinsonhttp://cardsharp.org/
> > > Wayne (dot) Vinson (at) gmail (dot) com
>
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Date: 08 Feb 2009 12:49:03
From: Wayne Vinson
Subject: Re: Russ = poker Pro
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On Feb 8 2009 12:38 PM, RussGeorgiev@aol.com wrote:
> It's all quiet on the Western Front. Also, the Eastern, Northern and
> Southern Fronts also. It's not even a challenge, more like a gift.
> But, they don't want to show I can win:). It would show they don't
> have a clue to what they're talking about.
Russ - if you want to show people you can win, all you have to do is go
out and do it. You don't need one of us to put up money. Unless you're
broke of course.
Once a cheat, always a cheat.
Wayne Vinson
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Date: 08 Feb 2009 14:57:18
From: XaQ Morphy
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On Feb 8 2009 2:49 PM, Wayne Vinson wrote:
> Russ - if you want to show people you can win, all you have to do is go
> out and do it. You don't need one of us to put up money. Unless you're
> broke of course.
>
> Once a cheat, always a cheat.
Holy shit, Russ is talking trash? I killfiled him after his 1982 spamming
attack, but that's pretty damn funny. He made up the most ridiculous
excuses I've ever seen to turn down 4 legitimate challenges and now he's
talking smack.
What a loser.
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Date: 08 Feb 2009 13:00:56
From: Wayne Vinson
Subject: Re: Russ = poker Pro
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> Russ - if you want to show people you can win, all you have to do is go
> out and do it. You don't need one of us to put up money. Unless you're
> broke of course.
>
> Once a cheat, always a cheat.
>
> Wayne Vinson
> http://cardsharp.org/
> Wayne (dot) Vinson (at) gmail (dot) com
I should also mention that if you wanted to prove your ability, there was
no better chance than the Barry Greenstein match. I'm sure he's still
game.
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Date: 08 Feb 2009 08:32:17
From: herdpm
Subject: Re: Russ = poker Pro
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On Feb 7, 9:03=A0pm, "RussGeorg...@aol.com" <RussGeorg...@aol.com >
wrote:
> That's how stupid you really are Wino. I love confrontations. You
> haven't a clue to how much I love confrontations. I live for revenge
> and to insult those that attack me. There are 1000s of posts on Google
> that most of you haven't a clue about.
>
> I played for a whole month educating and winning people money, backing
> the whole proposition and not making a dime. I sent out over 4000
> Cheating Tapes and DVDS, paid postage and didn't charge a dime. Sent
> out hundreds ofwww.pokermafia.comT-shirts, didn't charge people a
> dime.
>
> Backed at least 10 total strangers for an amount in excess of $50,000
> in the 2005 WSOp events, didn't get a cash. Many I backed in numerous
> events. I even backed Razz0 in an event.
>
> Anyone who signed up for my site, is now a lifetime member. I don't
> charge. I don't accept avertising. I have given away at least $100,000
> to people from RGP. I have helped dozens who came to me that needed
> help. No, I'm not going to tell you who asked.
>
> RGP was my vehicle to reach the professional players who all know me.
> Yes, the old guys:).
>
> I'll even do the same with you. Put up all the money, play online and
> you post the results. Better yet, we tell RGP so they can watch. Plus,
> you get to keep all the money won and if there is a loss, I will take
> the whole loss.
>
> Russ Georgiev
>
> www.pokermafia.comwww.pokerunchecked.comwww.russgeorgiev.com
>
> On Feb 7, 9:48 am, "Wayne Vinson" <a7a8...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 7 2009 11:28 AM, XaQ Morphy wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 6 2009 7:44 PM, Porsche_Dan wrote:
>
> > > > Russ gets a cut of the winnings. No winnings no cuts.
>
> > > So you put up the entire buyin, if you lose you get nothing but if yo=
u win
> > > Russ takes a cut? WHAT A BARGAIN!!!
>
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> > > xaqmor...@donkeymanifesto.com
> > >http://www.donkeymanifesto.com
>
> > I think it's even more hilarious that a supposedly skilled player like
> > Russ who can supposedly crush 30/60 has to make his money via coaching
> > deals. If he were really that good he'd have no interest in such a deal
> > because he's be rolled to play MUCH bigger himself.
>
> > Wayne Vinsonhttp://cardsharp.org/
> > Wayne (dot) Vinson (at) gmail (dot) com
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Well XaqMorphy? Are you going to take up this challenge?
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Date: 07 Feb 2009 18:03:19
From: RussGeorgiev@aol.com
Subject: Re: Russ = poker Pro
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That's how stupid you really are Wino. I love confrontations. You
haven't a clue to how much I love confrontations. I live for revenge
and to insult those that attack me. There are 1000s of posts on Google
that most of you haven't a clue about.
I played for a whole month educating and winning people money, backing
the whole proposition and not making a dime. I sent out over 4000
Cheating Tapes and DVDS, paid postage and didn't charge a dime. Sent
out hundreds of www.pokermafia.com T-shirts, didn't charge people a
dime.
Backed at least 10 total strangers for an amount in excess of $50,000
in the 2005 WSOp events, didn't get a cash. Many I backed in numerous
events. I even backed Razz0 in an event.
Anyone who signed up for my site, is now a lifetime member. I don't
charge. I don't accept avertising. I have given away at least $100,000
to people from RGP. I have helped dozens who came to me that needed
help. No, I'm not going to tell you who asked.
RGP was my vehicle to reach the professional players who all know me.
Yes, the old guys:).
I'll even do the same with you. Put up all the money, play online and
you post the results. Better yet, we tell RGP so they can watch. Plus,
you get to keep all the money won and if there is a loss, I will take
the whole loss.
Russ Georgiev
www.pokermafia.com
www.pokerunchecked.com
www.russgeorgiev.com
On Feb 7, 9:48=EF=BF=BDam, "Wayne Vinson" <a7a8...@webnntp.invalid > wrote:
> On Feb 7 2009 11:28 AM, XaQ Morphy wrote:
>
> > On Feb 6 2009 7:44 PM, Porsche_Dan wrote:
>
> > > Russ gets a cut of the winnings. No winnings no cuts.
>
> > So you put up the entire buyin, if you lose you get nothing but if you =
win
> > Russ takes a cut? =EF=BF=BDWHAT A BARGAIN!!!
>
> > ---
> > Morphy
> > xaqmor...@donkeymanifesto.com
> >http://www.donkeymanifesto.com
>
> I think it's even more hilarious that a supposedly skilled player like
> Russ who can supposedly crush 30/60 has to make his money via coaching
> deals. =EF=BF=BDIf he were really that good he'd have no interest in such=
a deal
> because he's be rolled to play MUCH bigger himself.
>
> Wayne Vinsonhttp://cardsharp.org/
> Wayne (dot) Vinson (at) gmail (dot) com
>
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Date: 06 Feb 2009 12:51:03
From: Wayne Vinson
Subject: Re: Russ = poker Pro
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On Feb 6 2009 3:58 AM, Porsche_Dan wrote:
> On Feb 5, 10:46 pm, "DonkeyBanAA" <freddiearba...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > i studied with russ a few lessons ___ Dam he knows his poker and how to
> > read player
> > Thanks Russ for the lessons -- I know it will help me in the future
> >
> > o0o good luck burros
> >
> If you are talking about Stud you are right. Last time I played with
> Russ I won thousands of dollars in a RNG game on PokerStars. Russ
> called out the hands spot on. Seriously, It was 30/60 and we finished
> the session + $6k I think? Could have been $8k. We kept breaking the
> table, it was that bad. Stud is a game of skill though, flop games not
> so much.
Calling hands in stud is not exactly difficult. Given the way 7-stud
opens there are typically no more than 2-3 things that villain could have
in the hole. For many tighter villains that drops to 2 or even 1 in a lot
of cases.
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Date: 06 Feb 2009 16:23:09
From: FangBanger
Subject: Re: Russ = poker Pro
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On Feb 6 2009 2:51 PM, Wayne Vinson wrote:
> On Feb 6 2009 3:58 AM, Porsche_Dan wrote:
>
> > On Feb 5, 10:46 pm, "DonkeyBanAA" <freddiearba...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > i studied with russ a few lessons ___ Dam he knows his poker and how to
> > > read player
> > > Thanks Russ for the lessons -- I know it will help me in the future
> > >
> > > o0o good luck burros
> > >
> > If you are talking about Stud you are right. Last time I played with
> > Russ I won thousands of dollars in a RNG game on PokerStars. Russ
> > called out the hands spot on. Seriously, It was 30/60 and we finished
> > the session + $6k I think? Could have been $8k. We kept breaking the
> > table, it was that bad. Stud is a game of skill though, flop games not
> > so much.
>
> Calling hands in stud is not exactly difficult. Given the way 7-stud
> opens there are typically no more than 2-3 things that villain could have
> in the hole. For many tighter villains that drops to 2 or even 1 in a lot
> of cases.
>
> Wayne Vinson
> http://cardsharp.org/
> Wayne (dot) Vinson (at) gmail (dot) com
WELL. HERE U GO AGAIN ... NOT A FUCKING CLUE
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Date: 06 Feb 2009 09:27:19
From: RussGeorgiev@aol.com
Subject: Re: Russ = poker Pro
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First, I'm not a liar. I'm the one telling you who the cheats are. The
fact you don't want to believe me is your problem. If you think I
don't know who the cheats were when I was on the frontline of poker in
the high stakes is ridiculous.
On Feb 6, 8:20=EF=BF=BDam, "John_Brian_K" <a7ec...@webnntp.invalid > wrote:
> > Russ and I spoke by phone, he taught me how he reads the board and bets
> > while I played. He was not in the game, just watching. With Russ's help=
it
> > sure felt like cheating though. A lot of what he said goes against comm=
on
> > poker strategy. But as most successful cash players know, TVSM poker
> > strategy is wrong.
>
> > I don't play Omaha, but I have watched Russ crush Hi/Lo games.
>
> > If you do play with Russ play in the mornings, he does quit well agains=
t
> > the Euro crowd. Russ also likes his evening cocktails! ;-)
>
> I personally have never questioned his poker knowledge. =EF=BF=BDI genera=
lly do
> not trust admitted cheats. =EF=BF=BDI would like to say I hate Russ becau=
se he
> cheated, but I find it difficult to hate anyone. =EF=BF=BDWith the knowle=
dge he
> does have of poker and his business like mind I would have liked to see
> him do something other than cheat people. =EF=BF=BDEveryone deserves a se=
cond
> chance as well. =EF=BF=BDI am not sure Russ wants a second chance though.=
=EF=BF=BDDo you
> not have to be sorry for things you have done in the past to get a second
> chance or forgiveness?
>
> The way you describe him Dan makes him sound like an average guy. =EF=BF=
=BDHe is
> not an average guy IMO. =EF=BF=BDAverage guys do not make a living lying =
and
> cheating other people.
>
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> You must not think me necessarily foolish because I am facetious,
> nor will =EF=BF=BDI =EF=BF=BDconsider you =EF=BF=BDnecessarily wise =EF=
=BF=BDbecause you are =EF=BF=BDgrave.
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> 47.5% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
> JBK
>
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Date: 06 Feb 2009 11:01:03
From: John_Brian_K
Subject: Re: Russ = poker Pro
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> First, I'm not a liar. I'm the one telling you who the cheats are. The
> fact you don't want to believe me is your problem. If you think I
> don't know who the cheats were when I was on the frontline of poker in
> the high stakes is ridiculous.
I personally do not care. That was not the reason for my post. The
reason for my post was the fact that I want to hate you for what you have
done to people in your life (some admitted on this group), but find it
very difficult to hate anybody. Dan made you sound like a like able guy,
but I had to think back to the things you have admitted to doing and seem
proud of most of the time and realize you are not 'a regular guy' who
happens to be good at poker.
==========================================
You must not think me necessarily foolish because I am facetious,
nor will I consider you necessarily wise because you are grave.
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Date: 06 Feb 2009 10:55:45
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: Russ = poker Pro
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On Feb 6 2009 11:27 AM, RussGeorgiev@aol.com wrote:
> First, I'm not a liar.
Bullshit. I won't even go into the fact that you challenged anyone to
play you then spent years backing down from the challenges. I will
however nail you on one point...
One of the reasons you claimed to not be able to partake in an online
challenge is that you live in washington state and that it's illegal to
play online. Yet just the other day you said all of your income comes
from online poker. So pick whichever side you want, but you lied at least
once, thus making you a liar.
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Date: 06 Feb 2009 09:24:24
From: RussGeorgiev@aol.com
Subject: Re: Russ = poker Pro
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As a ? how would you be qualified to know? Besides, what's would you
say is the biggest thing that has changed in stud poker variations in
today's game compared to yesterdays?
On Feb 6, 8:26=EF=BF=BDam, "XaQ Morphy" <a1c5...@webnntp.invalid > wrote:
> On Feb 6 2009 10:20 AM, John_Brian_K wrote:
>
> > I personally have never questioned his poker knowledge. =EF=BF=BDI gene=
rally do
> > not trust admitted cheats. =EF=BF=BDI would like to say I hate Russ bec=
ause he
> > cheated, but I find it difficult to hate anyone. =EF=BF=BDWith the know=
ledge he
> > does have of poker and his business like mind I would have liked to see
> > him do something other than cheat people. =EF=BF=BDEveryone deserves a =
second
> > chance as well. =EF=BF=BDI am not sure Russ wants a second chance thoug=
h. =EF=BF=BDDo you
> > not have to be sorry for things you have done in the past to get a seco=
nd
> > chance or forgiveness?
>
> > The way you describe him Dan makes him sound like an average guy. =EF=
=BF=BDHe is
> > not an average guy IMO. =EF=BF=BDAverage guys do not make a living lyin=
g and
> > cheating other people.
>
> Youl say "cheated" as if it happened in the past and he's given up on it.
> *IF* he's really making as much money as he says he does playing online,
> then he's still cheating, and still lying to RGP on a daily basis about
> who the hell even knows how many things.
>
> I've yet to see anything from Russ that is useful in today's poker.
>
> ---
> Morphy
> xaqmor...@donkeymanifesto.comhttp://www.donkeymanifesto.com
>
> "I think they are mad that i am borderline psycho" =EF=BF=BD--igotskillz
>
> "It's unfortunate that there are loons on both sides completely
> obfuscating what's going on." --Official RGP Mantra
>
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Date: 06 Feb 2009 10:53:55
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: Russ = poker Pro
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On Feb 6 2009 11:24 AM, RussGeorgiev@aol.com wrote:
> As a ? how would you be qualified to know? Besides, what's would you
> say is the biggest thing that has changed in stud poker variations in
> today's game compared to yesterdays?
The biggest thing that's changed in stud poker is its popularity.
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Date: 06 Feb 2009 10:19:12
From: Wayne Vinson
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On Feb 6 2009 11:24 AM, RussGeorgiev@aol.com wrote:
> As a ? how would you be qualified to know? Besides, what's would you
> say is the biggest thing that has changed in stud poker variations in
> today's game compared to yesterdays?
The fact that almost no one plays them. Poker's moved on. You haven't.
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Date: 06 Feb 2009 07:22:45
From: FangBanger
Subject: Re: Russ = poker Pro
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On Feb 6 2009 3:58 AM, Porsche_Dan wrote:
> On Feb 5, 10:46 pm, "DonkeyBanAA" <freddiearba...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > i studied with russ a few lessons ___ Dam he knows his poker and how to
> > read player
> > Thanks Russ for the lessons -- I know it will help me in the future
> >
> > o0o good luck burros
> >
> If you are talking about Stud you are right. Last time I played with
> Russ I won thousands of dollars in a RNG game on PokerStars. Russ
> called out the hands spot on. Seriously, It was 30/60 and we finished
> the session + $6k I think? Could have been $8k. We kept breaking the
> table, it was that bad. Stud is a game of skill though, flop games not
> so much.
So you and Russ cheated the game ?
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Date: 06 Feb 2009 07:57:30
From: Porsche_Dan
Subject: Re: Russ = poker Pro
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On Feb 6 2009 7:22 AM, FangBanger wrote:
> On Feb 6 2009 3:58 AM, Porsche_Dan wrote:
>
> > On Feb 5, 10:46 pm, "DonkeyBanAA" <freddiearba...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > i studied with russ a few lessons ___ Dam he knows his poker and how to
> > > read player
> > > Thanks Russ for the lessons -- I know it will help me in the future
> > >
> > > o0o good luck burros
> > >
> > If you are talking about Stud you are right. Last time I played with
> > Russ I won thousands of dollars in a RNG game on PokerStars. Russ
> > called out the hands spot on. Seriously, It was 30/60 and we finished
> > the session + $6k I think? Could have been $8k. We kept breaking the
> > table, it was that bad. Stud is a game of skill though, flop games not
> > so much.
>
> So you and Russ cheated the game ?
Russ and I spoke by phone, he taught me how he reads the board and bets
while I played. He was not in the game, just watching. With Russ's help it
sure felt like cheating though. A lot of what he said goes against common
poker strategy. But as most successful cash players know, TVSM poker
strategy is wrong.
I don't play Omaha, but I have watched Russ crush Hi/Lo games.
If you do play with Russ play in the mornings, he does quit well against
the Euro crowd. Russ also likes his evening cocktails! ;-)
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Date: 06 Feb 2009 16:35:33
From: FangBanger
Subject: Re: Russ = poker Pro
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On Feb 6 2009 9:57 AM, Porsche_Dan wrote:
> On Feb 6 2009 7:22 AM, FangBanger wrote:
>
> > On Feb 6 2009 3:58 AM, Porsche_Dan wrote:
> >
> > > On Feb 5, 10:46 pm, "DonkeyBanAA" <freddiearba...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > i studied with russ a few lessons ___ Dam he knows his poker and how to
> > > > read player
> > > > Thanks Russ for the lessons -- I know it will help me in the future
> > > >
> > > > o0o good luck burros
> > > >
> > > If you are talking about Stud you are right. Last time I played with
> > > Russ I won thousands of dollars in a RNG game on PokerStars. Russ
> > > called out the hands spot on. Seriously, It was 30/60 and we finished
> > > the session + $6k I think? Could have been $8k. We kept breaking the
> > > table, it was that bad. Stud is a game of skill though, flop games not
> > > so much.
> >
> > So you and Russ cheated the game ?
>
> Russ and I spoke by phone, he taught me how he reads the board and bets
> while I played. He was not in the game, just watching. With Russ's help it
> sure felt like cheating though. A lot of what he said goes against common
> poker strategy. But as most successful cash players know, TVSM poker
> strategy is wrong.
FINALLY STARTING TO DAWN ON YOU .. I have been telling you clowns this for
3 years !!
>
> I don't play Omaha, but I have watched Russ crush Hi/Lo games.
Anyone with reasonable knowledge about H/L can do well in the Omahas
online .
>
> If you do play with Russ play in the mornings, he does quit well against
> the Euro crowd. Russ also likes his evening cocktails! ;-)
If you are paying for playing lessons with Russ .. YOU ARE GETTING FUCKED
OR GETTING SET UP, and if they are gratis .. I would be even more
concerened !!
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Date: 06 Feb 2009 17:44:32
From: Porsche_Dan
Subject: Re: Russ = poker Pro
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> If you are paying for playing lessons with Russ .. YOU ARE GETTING FUCKED
> OR GETTING SET UP, and if they are gratis .. I would be even more
> concerened !!
Russ gets a cut of the winnings. No winnings no cuts.
As they say a fool and his money are soon parted. I still have my money so
what now dog fucker!
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Date: 07 Feb 2009 09:28:49
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: Russ = poker Pro
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On Feb 6 2009 7:44 PM, Porsche_Dan wrote:
> Russ gets a cut of the winnings. No winnings no cuts.
So you put up the entire buyin, if you lose you get nothing but if you win
Russ takes a cut? WHAT A BARGAIN!!!
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Date: 07 Feb 2009 15:55:39
From: Porsche_Dan
Subject: Re: Russ = poker Pro
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On Feb 7 2009 9:28 AM, XaQ Morphy wrote:
> On Feb 6 2009 7:44 PM, Porsche_Dan wrote:
>
> > Russ gets a cut of the winnings. No winnings no cuts.
>
> So you put up the entire buyin, if you lose you get nothing but if you win
> Russ takes a cut? WHAT A BARGAIN!!!
>
> ---
> Morphy
> xaqmorphy@donkeymanifesto.com
> http://www.donkeymanifesto.com
Come on now Morph, why let a personal vendetta get in the way of rational
thinking?
I play poker with Russ to both learn and enjoy. Same reason why I play
with you Donkeys. It's not about the money, it's about the experience,
it's entertainment. Don't kid yourself, Russ is an entertaining guy on the
phone. You are an entertaining guy on FaceBook! But on RGP you are a
DonkeyPunch.
I've made money playing poker with Russ and have no problem sharing the
profits. I set the terms he doesn't. One time we did lose and he sent me
half the buy-in. Didn't ask him to, wasn't part of the deal, he just did
it.
And as DoggyFuck says Russ is setting me up for a big scam........ Could
be, but that is part of the fun now isn't it?
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Date: 11 Feb 2009 08:56:11
From: John_Brian_K
Subject: Re: Russ = poker Pro
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> And as DoggyFuck says Russ is setting me up for a big scam........ Could
> be, but that is part of the fun now isn't it?
No he is not setting you up for a big scam. You and him and a few others
are trying desperately to set up as many other people as you can for a
scam.
Russ is a scammer it is in his blood, he boasts about it. I am sure their
is nothing more he would like to do than scam a few people on here for
'peanuts'.
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Date: 08 Feb 2009 22:00:45
From: FangBanger
Subject: Re: Russ = poker Pro
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On Feb 7 2009 5:55 PM, Porsche_Dan wrote:
> On Feb 7 2009 9:28 AM, XaQ Morphy wrote:
>
> > On Feb 6 2009 7:44 PM, Porsche_Dan wrote:
> >
> > > Russ gets a cut of the winnings. No winnings no cuts.
> >
> > So you put up the entire buyin, if you lose you get nothing but if you win
> > Russ takes a cut? WHAT A BARGAIN!!!
> >
> > ---
> > Morphy
> > xaqmorphy@donkeymanifesto.com
> > http://www.donkeymanifesto.com
>
>
> Come on now Morph, why let a personal vendetta get in the way of rational
> thinking?
>
> I play poker with Russ to both learn and enjoy. Same reason why I play
> with you Donkeys. It's not about the money, it's about the experience,
> it's entertainment. Don't kid yourself, Russ is an entertaining guy on the
> phone. You are an entertaining guy on FaceBook! But on RGP you are a
> DonkeyPunch.
>
> I've made money playing poker with Russ and have no problem sharing the
> profits. I set the terms he doesn't. One time we did lose and he sent me
> half the buy-in. Didn't ask him to, wasn't part of the deal, he just did
> it.
>
> And as DoggyFuck says Russ is setting me up for a big scam........ Could
> be, but that is part of the fun now isn't it?
That is the best part of this type of scam .. just like the older woman
with money who marries the younger guy .. she is the first one to fight
when someone says that he is taking advantage of her !!
SO LETS REVIEW.. the self proclaimed biggest cheat in poker history has
buddied up to the guy who has gone to such great lengths to show that he
has an excess of money
have we ever seen this story line before ??
HOW COULD THIS EVER GO WRONG ?
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
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Date: 07 Feb 2009 16:28:19
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: Russ = poker Pro
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On Feb 7 2009 5:55 PM, Porsche_Dan wrote:
> phone. You are an entertaining guy on FaceBook! But on RGP you are a
> DonkeyPunch.
Please keep all of your gay references between you and este. You two are
perfect for each other.
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Date: 07 Feb 2009 09:51:34
From: Raider Fan
Subject: Re: Russ = poker Pro
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On Feb 7 2009 11:28 AM, XaQ Morphy wrote:
> On Feb 6 2009 7:44 PM, Porsche_Dan wrote:
>
> > Russ gets a cut of the winnings. No winnings no cuts.
>
> So you put up the entire buyin, if you lose you get nothing but if you win
> Russ takes a cut? WHAT A BARGAIN!!!
I'm pretty sure there would be nothing Dan could say there that make you
be unable to find a snide reponse.
" No offense to RGP, but there are not alot of intelligent people on
here." -- JBK, 1/30/2009 10:16a
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Date: 07 Feb 2009 11:03:11
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: Russ = poker Pro
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On Feb 7 2009 11:51 AM, Raider Fan wrote:
> I'm pretty sure there would be nothing Dan could say there that make you
> be unable to find a snide reponse.
Quote of the week? lol
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Date: 07 Feb 2009 09:48:35
From: Wayne Vinson
Subject: Re: Russ = poker Pro
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On Feb 7 2009 11:28 AM, XaQ Morphy wrote:
> On Feb 6 2009 7:44 PM, Porsche_Dan wrote:
>
> > Russ gets a cut of the winnings. No winnings no cuts.
>
> So you put up the entire buyin, if you lose you get nothing but if you win
> Russ takes a cut? WHAT A BARGAIN!!!
>
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> Morphy
> xaqmorphy@donkeymanifesto.com
> http://www.donkeymanifesto.com
I think it's even more hilarious that a supposedly skilled player like
Russ who can supposedly crush 30/60 has to make his money via coaching
deals. If he were really that good he'd have no interest in such a deal
because he's be rolled to play MUCH bigger himself.
Wayne Vinson
http://cardsharp.org/
Wayne (dot) Vinson (at) gmail (dot) com
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Date: 06 Feb 2009 19:32:19
From: FangBanger
Subject: Re: Russ = poker Pro
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On Feb 6 2009 7:44 PM, Porsche_Dan wrote:
> > If you are paying for playing lessons with Russ .. YOU ARE GETTING FUCKED
> > OR GETTING SET UP, and if they are gratis .. I would be even more
> > concerened !!
>
> Russ gets a cut of the winnings. No winnings no cuts.
>
> As they say a fool and his money are soon parted. I still have my money so
> what now dog fucker!
Every sucker in the world in your spot thinks they have the upper hand .
GL CHUMP
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Date: 06 Feb 2009 16:29:22
From: FangBanger
Subject: Re: Russ = poker Pro
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On Feb 6 2009 9:57 AM, Porsche_Dan wrote:
> On Feb 6 2009 7:22 AM, FangBanger wrote:
>
> > On Feb 6 2009 3:58 AM, Porsche_Dan wrote:
> >
> > > On Feb 5, 10:46 pm, "DonkeyBanAA" <freddiearba...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > i studied with russ a few lessons ___ Dam he knows his poker and how to
> > > > read player
> > > > Thanks Russ for the lessons -- I know it will help me in the future
> > > >
> > > > o0o good luck burros
> > > >
> > > If you are talking about Stud you are right. Last time I played with
> > > Russ I won thousands of dollars in a RNG game on PokerStars. Russ
> > > called out the hands spot on. Seriously, It was 30/60 and we finished
> > > the session + $6k I think? Could have been $8k. We kept breaking the
> > > table, it was that bad. Stud is a game of skill though, flop games not
> > > so much.
> >
> > So you and Russ cheated the game ?
>
> Russ and I spoke by phone, he taught me how he reads the board and bets
> while I played. He was not in the game, just watching. With Russ's help it
> sure felt like cheating though. A lot of what he said goes against common
> poker strategy. But as most successful cash players know, TVSM poker
> strategy is wrong.
>
> I don't play Omaha, but I have watched Russ crush Hi/Lo games.
>
> If you do play with Russ play in the mornings, he does quit well against
> the Euro crowd. Russ also likes his evening cocktails! ;-)
How do you know that Russ doesnt have a program to see cards , and has
been put out of business , and is using your account to pick up a few
bucks ?
What if he is hustling you ?
What if he is setting you up for some big "stake" deal and will fuck you
silly ?
What if Russ's hand reading ability is no better than any average player ,
and he simply "forced" it onto you , adding some smoke , and you ate it up
?
I have a friend who plays in the HORSE game on FTP every day , and I will
sweat him , and guess his cards , as the action goes on .. it aint rocket
science
YOU ARE BEING PLAYED FOR A TRICK
And for anyone who thinks these things are out of the question .. hasnt
Russ already convinced us that he is a cheatin , hustling scumbag ?
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Date: 06 Feb 2009 20:54:34
From: bigjimmf1
Subject: Re: Russ = poker Pro
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FangBanger wrote:
> On Feb 6 2009 9:57 AM, Porsche_Dan wrote:
>
>> On Feb 6 2009 7:22 AM, FangBanger wrote:
>>
>>> On Feb 6 2009 3:58 AM, Porsche_Dan wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Feb 5, 10:46 pm, "DonkeyBanAA" <freddiearba...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> i studied with russ a few lessons ___ Dam he knows his poker and how to
>>>>> read player
>>>>> Thanks Russ for the lessons -- I know it will help me in the future
>>>>>
>>>>> o0o good luck burros
>>>>>
>>>> If you are talking about Stud you are right. Last time I played with
>>>> Russ I won thousands of dollars in a RNG game on PokerStars. Russ
>>>> called out the hands spot on. Seriously, It was 30/60 and we finished
>>>> the session + $6k I think? Could have been $8k. We kept breaking the
>>>> table, it was that bad. Stud is a game of skill though, flop games not
>>>> so much.
>>> So you and Russ cheated the game ?
>> Russ and I spoke by phone, he taught me how he reads the board and bets
>> while I played. He was not in the game, just watching. With Russ's help it
>> sure felt like cheating though. A lot of what he said goes against common
>> poker strategy. But as most successful cash players know, TVSM poker
>> strategy is wrong.
>>
>> I don't play Omaha, but I have watched Russ crush Hi/Lo games.
>>
>> If you do play with Russ play in the mornings, he does quit well against
>> the Euro crowd. Russ also likes his evening cocktails! ;-)
>
> How do you know that Russ doesnt have a program to see cards , and has
> been put out of business , and is using your account to pick up a few
> bucks ?
>
> What if he is hustling you ?
>
> What if he is setting you up for some big "stake" deal and will fuck you
> silly ?
>
> What if Russ's hand reading ability is no better than any average player ,
> and he simply "forced" it onto you , adding some smoke , and you ate it up
> ?
>
> I have a friend who plays in the HORSE game on FTP every day , and I will
> sweat him , and guess his cards , as the action goes on .. it aint rocket
> science
>
> YOU ARE BEING PLAYED FOR A TRICK
>
> And for anyone who thinks these things are out of the question .. hasnt
> Russ already convinced us that he is a cheatin , hustling scumbag ?
>
>
> Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
> Voltaire
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Date: 06 Feb 2009 08:20:05
From: John_Brian_K
Subject: Re: Russ = poker Pro
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> Russ and I spoke by phone, he taught me how he reads the board and bets
> while I played. He was not in the game, just watching. With Russ's help it
> sure felt like cheating though. A lot of what he said goes against common
> poker strategy. But as most successful cash players know, TVSM poker
> strategy is wrong.
>
> I don't play Omaha, but I have watched Russ crush Hi/Lo games.
>
> If you do play with Russ play in the mornings, he does quit well against
> the Euro crowd. Russ also likes his evening cocktails! ;-)
I personally have never questioned his poker knowledge. I generally do
not trust admitted cheats. I would like to say I hate Russ because he
cheated, but I find it difficult to hate anyone. With the knowledge he
does have of poker and his business like mind I would have liked to see
him do something other than cheat people. Everyone deserves a second
chance as well. I am not sure Russ wants a second chance though. Do you
not have to be sorry for things you have done in the past to get a second
chance or forgiveness?
The way you describe him Dan makes him sound like an average guy. He is
not an average guy IMO. Average guys do not make a living lying and
cheating other people.
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Date: 06 Feb 2009 08:26:51
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: Russ = poker Pro
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On Feb 6 2009 10:20 AM, John_Brian_K wrote:
> I personally have never questioned his poker knowledge. I generally do
> not trust admitted cheats. I would like to say I hate Russ because he
> cheated, but I find it difficult to hate anyone. With the knowledge he
> does have of poker and his business like mind I would have liked to see
> him do something other than cheat people. Everyone deserves a second
> chance as well. I am not sure Russ wants a second chance though. Do you
> not have to be sorry for things you have done in the past to get a second
> chance or forgiveness?
>
> The way you describe him Dan makes him sound like an average guy. He is
> not an average guy IMO. Average guys do not make a living lying and
> cheating other people.
Youl say "cheated" as if it happened in the past and he's given up on it.
*IF* he's really making as much money as he says he does playing online,
then he's still cheating, and still lying to RGP on a daily basis about
who the hell even knows how many things.
I've yet to see anything from Russ that is useful in today's poker.
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