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Date: 30 Jan 2009 21:07:39
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Republicans make two good moves
The Republicans have made two good moves recently. The first is that all
177 Congressional Republicans (and 11 Democrat's) voted against The
Messiah's gigantic, pork filled welfare and entitlement spending bill.
Second, they elected Michael Steele Chairman of the RNC. Granted the
Republicans have a tough fight ahead of them but I'm encouraged by these
moves.

Irish Mike






 
Date: 31 Jan 2009 08:04:19
From: hap
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves
On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:07:39 -0500, "Irish Mike"
<mjostar@ameritech.net > wrote:

>The Republicans have made two good moves recently. The first is that all
>177 Congressional Republicans (and 11 Democrat's) voted against The
>Messiah's gigantic, pork filled welfare and entitlement spending bill.
>Second, they elected Michael Steele Chairman of the RNC. Granted the
>Republicans have a tough fight ahead of them but I'm encouraged by these
>moves.
>
>Irish Mike
>

Unfortunately for you and the republican party, "two good moves" will
not help an irrelavent, marginalized party.


  
Date: 31 Jan 2009 20:58:59
From: CheckRazor
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves
>
> What the fuck are you talking about? =A0Rush Limbaugh is a lard assed,
> egotistical gas bag and I can't stand the guy. No matter what you hear fr=
om
> your Messiah, Limbaugh does not speak for all conservatives. =A0However,>
> - Show quoted text -

However, what comes out of his ass, tends to come out your mouth. This
is a true story. Deny it all you want, but we all know better.


  
Date: 31 Jan 2009 19:47:16
From: pokertank.us
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves
On Jan 31, 4:22=A0pm, hap <s...@a.com > wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 09:58:56 -0500, "Irish Mike"
>
> <mjos...@ameritech.net> wrote:
> >Bottom line bucko, I wouldn't get too smug about your Messiah too soon.
>
> Never said anything about my "Messiah". Bottom line is Dems can do
> anything they want and you have to bend over and take it. Not much you
> can do about it but bitch on a poker group. The more you try to
> "analyze" President Obama's performance and spew Hannity talking
> points the more irrelevant you become. Your answer to that kind of
> thinking came in the recent election. You and Rush can pray the Dems
> fail all you want - you're still IRRELEVANT. Not smug, not gloating
> but Jesus MF Christ, you idiots still haven't figured out why you lost
> the election, have you? Hint: It aint about Bush's BS "war on terror".

You're correct. It is every bit about the republican congress
drinking the same power koolaid the Dems have in the past, and are
doing again now as we speak, and for not holding to their
conservative, smaller government, stay out of people's lives, balanced
budget, and pro-business/free market values. Obama is in office,
because Bush (whom I voted for) went along with all this, and allowed
one of the biggest expansions of the federal government we've ever
seen on his watch. I'm not defending nor apologizing for the
Republican Party, to the contrary. I am more than willing to place
blame where it belongs, and the Republican Party has royally screwed
the pooch over the last few years. You are also correct, that they
will be irrelevant until the party is reformed back to it's
unapologetic core convervative roots.

- Hank

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Date: 31 Jan 2009 23:50:39
From: FL Turbo
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves
On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:47:16 -0800 (PST), "pokertank.us"
<hank@pokertank.us > wrote:

>On Jan 31, 4:22 pm, hap <s...@a.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 09:58:56 -0500, "Irish Mike"
>>
>> <mjos...@ameritech.net> wrote:
>> >Bottom line bucko, I wouldn't get too smug about your Messiah too soon.
>>
>> Never said anything about my "Messiah". Bottom line is Dems can do
>> anything they want and you have to bend over and take it. Not much you
>> can do about it but bitch on a poker group. The more you try to
>> "analyze" President Obama's performance and spew Hannity talking
>> points the more irrelevant you become. Your answer to that kind of
>> thinking came in the recent election. You and Rush can pray the Dems
>> fail all you want - you're still IRRELEVANT. Not smug, not gloating
>> but Jesus MF Christ, you idiots still haven't figured out why you lost
>> the election, have you? Hint: It aint about Bush's BS "war on terror".
>

>You're correct.

It is every bit about the republican congress drinking the same power
KoolAid the Dems have in the past, and are doing again now as we
speak, and for not holding to their conservative, smaller government,
stay out of people's lives, balanced budget, and pro-business/free
market values.

Obama is in office, because Bush (whom I voted for) went along with
all this, and allowed one of the biggest expansions of the federal
government we've ever seen on his watch.

I'm not defending nor apologizing for the Republican Party, to the
contrary, I am more than willing to place blame where it belongs, and
the Republican Party has royally screwed the pooch over the last few
years.

You are also correct, that they will be irrelevant until the party is
reformed back to it's unapologetic core conservative roots.

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Date: 31 Jan 2009 11:57:07
From: Bryan Kimmes
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves
On Jan 31 2009 8:04 AM, hap wrote:

> On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:07:39 -0500, "Irish Mike"
> <mjostar@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
> >The Republicans have made two good moves recently. The first is that all
> >177 Congressional Republicans (and 11 Democrat's) voted against The
> >Messiah's gigantic, pork filled welfare and entitlement spending bill.
> >Second, they elected Michael Steele Chairman of the RNC. Granted the
> >Republicans have a tough fight ahead of them but I'm encouraged by these
> >moves.
> >
> >Irish Mike
> >
>
> Unfortunately for you and the republican party, "two good moves" will
> not help an irrelavent, marginalized party.

How many "good moves" will it take to offset the crowning of Rush
Limbaugh? 183?

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Date: 31 Jan 2009 15:17:36
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves

"Bryan Kimmes" <slikwilly1@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:j1ne56xjjl.ln2@recgroups.com...
> On Jan 31 2009 8:04 AM, hap wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:07:39 -0500, "Irish Mike"
>> <mjostar@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>
>> >The Republicans have made two good moves recently. The first is that
>> >all
>> >177 Congressional Republicans (and 11 Democrat's) voted against The
>> >Messiah's gigantic, pork filled welfare and entitlement spending bill.
>> >Second, they elected Michael Steele Chairman of the RNC. Granted the
>> >Republicans have a tough fight ahead of them but I'm encouraged by these
>> >moves.
>> >
>> >Irish Mike
>> >
>>
>> Unfortunately for you and the republican party, "two good moves" will
>> not help an irrelavent, marginalized party.
>
> How many "good moves" will it take to offset the crowning of Rush
> Limbaugh? 183?

What the fuck are you talking about? Rush Limbaugh is a lard assed,
egotistical gas bag and I can't stand the guy. No matter what you hear from
your Messiah, Limbaugh does not speak for all conservatives. However, he
does point out some of the more idiotic decisions and actions of the lunatic
liberal left. But for pure mean vicious political hate mongering Limbaugh's
not even in the same league with The Huffington Post, Daily Kos and
moveon.org. In fact, those groups should just combine with Rosie O'Donnell
and Michael Moore and form "hate America.com".

Irish Mike




    
Date: 31 Jan 2009 15:27:16
From: Bryan Kimmes
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves
On Jan 31 2009 3:17 PM, Irish Mike wrote:

> "Bryan Kimmes" <slikwilly1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:j1ne56xjjl.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > On Jan 31 2009 8:04 AM, hap wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:07:39 -0500, "Irish Mike"
> >> <mjostar@ameritech.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >The Republicans have made two good moves recently. The first is that
> >> >all
> >> >177 Congressional Republicans (and 11 Democrat's) voted against The
> >> >Messiah's gigantic, pork filled welfare and entitlement spending bill.
> >> >Second, they elected Michael Steele Chairman of the RNC. Granted the
> >> >Republicans have a tough fight ahead of them but I'm encouraged by these
> >> >moves.
> >> >
> >> >Irish Mike
> >> >
> >>
> >> Unfortunately for you and the republican party, "two good moves" will
> >> not help an irrelavent, marginalized party.
> >
> > How many "good moves" will it take to offset the crowning of Rush
> > Limbaugh? 183?
>
> What the fuck are you talking about?

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http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0109/18049.html

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Date: 31 Jan 2009 15:36:14
From: Jerry Sturdivant
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves


http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0109/18049.html

Rush (for the medicine cabinet) Limbaugh thinks Obama is afraid of him?

WHA! HA! HA!



Jerry (laughing) 'n Vegas








  
Date: 31 Jan 2009 09:16:36
From: Travel
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves
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On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:07:39 -0500, "Irish Mike"
<mjostar@ameritech.net > wrote:

>The Republicans have made two good moves recently. The first is that
all
>177 Congressional Republicans (and 11 Democrat's) voted against The
>Messiah's gigantic, pork filled welfare and entitlement spending bill.

>Second, they elected Michael Steele Chairman of the RNC. Granted the
>Republicans have a tough fight ahead of them but I'm encouraged by
these
>moves.
>
>Irish Mike
>

Unfortunately for you and the republican party, "two good moves" will
not help an irrelavent, marginalized party.

....................................................................

Of course it will help. Mitt Romney and Sarah Palin have PACs
(Political Action Committees) to help real conservatives in 2010
congressional races. It all helps.

A majority party is especially vulnerable in mid-term elections.

What will hurt the most for Democrats, is the Democrat hog wild
socialist spending that keeps a disaster economy from recovering.

Republicans have more political advantage now than they had when Newt
took over the House from the Democrats.

Michael Steele, Romney, and Sarah Palin represent a move to "take back
the party" from the neo-cons and "the McCains" of the party and support
the traditional conservative platform message; it's what enabled Ronald
Reagan's and Newt's sea change success.

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Date: 31 Jan 2009 09:58:56
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves

"hap" <s@a.com > wrote in message
news:0ti8o4lofgrs2gcvrq393nji0hmk3rnlog@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:07:39 -0500, "Irish Mike"
> <mjostar@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>>The Republicans have made two good moves recently. The first is that all
>>177 Congressional Republicans (and 11 Democrat's) voted against The
>>Messiah's gigantic, pork filled welfare and entitlement spending bill.
>>Second, they elected Michael Steele Chairman of the RNC. Granted the
>>Republicans have a tough fight ahead of them but I'm encouraged by these
>>moves.
>>
>>Irish Mike
>>
>
> Unfortunately for you and the republican party, "two good moves" will
> not help an irrelavent, marginalized party.

That's an exceedingly dumb comment even by the low standards of RGP
political discussions. Of course I guess it's no dumber than predictions
that the Democrat party was irrelevant and marginalized a few years ago.
Fact is, 55,000,000+ Americans did not vote for your Messiah. And he's off
to a shaky start. Look at his cabinet choices:

Secretary of Commerce - had to withdraw because he got caught taking
kickbacks in exchange for state contracts.
Secretary of the Treasury - got caught cheating on his taxes for four years
and employing an illegal in his household.
Secretary of Health and Human Services - got caught cheating on his taxes.
Secretary of State - her husband has taken millions in "donations" from the
same foreign countries she will deal with.

He got caught lying about having talked to the just impeached Democrat Gov.
of Illinois about filling his vacant senate seat.

Your Messiah has further divided the country on the abortion issue with his
decision to spend American tax payer money to fund and promote abortions in
other countries.

He has gutted America's defenses against terrorist attacks on our soil and
made our soldiers and citizens much more vulnerable to terrorist attacks in
foreign countries.

He just passed the biggest pork barrel, welfare and entitlement spending
bill in U.S. history. A bill that every one of the 177 Republicans and 11
of the Democrats in Congress voted against. A bill that is being shown to
be about liberal social engineering with minimal chance of actually creating
private sector jobs or helping the American economy in this year or next.
And the more the American people learn about this $ one trillion dollar pork
barrel bill the less they like it.

Bottom line bucko, I wouldn't get too smug about your Messiah too soon.

Irish Mike





   
Date: 31 Jan 2009 17:22:16
From: hap
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves
On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 09:58:56 -0500, "Irish Mike"
<mjostar@ameritech.net > wrote:

>Bottom line bucko, I wouldn't get too smug about your Messiah too soon.

Never said anything about my "Messiah". Bottom line is Dems can do
anything they want and you have to bend over and take it. Not much you
can do about it but bitch on a poker group. The more you try to
"analyze" President Obama's performance and spew Hannity talking
points the more irrelevant you become. Your answer to that kind of
thinking came in the recent election. You and Rush can pray the Dems
fail all you want - you're still IRRELEVANT. Not smug, not gloating
but Jesus MF Christ, you idiots still haven't figured out why you lost
the election, have you? Hint: It aint about Bush's BS "war on terror".


    
Date: 01 Feb 2009 00:33:14
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves

"hap" <s@a.com > wrote in message
news:epi9o4hqpvcc864ogfeueoluhv893e49pi@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 09:58:56 -0500, "Irish Mike"
> <mjostar@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>>Bottom line bucko, I wouldn't get too smug about your Messiah too soon.
>
> Never said anything about my "Messiah". Bottom line is Dems can do
> anything they want and you have to bend over and take it. Not much you
> can do about it but bitch on a poker group. The more you try to
> "analyze" President Obama's performance and spew Hannity talking
> points the more irrelevant you become. Your answer to that kind of
> thinking came in the recent election. You and Rush can pray the Dems
> fail all you want - you're still IRRELEVANT. Not smug, not gloating
> but Jesus MF Christ, you idiots still haven't figured out why you lost
> the election, have you? Hint: It aint about Bush's BS "war on terror".

There were 117,000,000 votes cast in the presidential election and Obama
only won by 7,000,000. There were 55,000,000+ of us who did not vote for
him. McCain& Palin were ahead in the polls before the financial
disaster hit in mid-September and if McCain had been smarter and a better
communicator, he would still have won. The "affirmative action, first black
president" card
has been played. If Obama does not turn this economy around or if
there is another terrorist attack on American soil within the next four
years, he will be a one term President. assuming he's not impeached.
And if he has not turned the economy around within in the next two years,
look for conservatives to start taking back congressional seats. When
Obama
gutted America's anti-terrorist defenses and introduced a massive,
fat-loaded, pork barrel $ trillion dollar spending program to fix the
economy, he not only rolled the dice on America's future, but on his own.

Irish Mike




     
Date: 01 Feb 2009 08:56:49
From: hap
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves
On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 00:33:14 -0500, "Irish Mike"
<mjostar@ameritech.net > wrote:

>
>"hap" <s@a.com> wrote in message
>news:epi9o4hqpvcc864ogfeueoluhv893e49pi@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 09:58:56 -0500, "Irish Mike"
>> <mjostar@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Bottom line bucko, I wouldn't get too smug about your Messiah too soon.
>>
>> Never said anything about my "Messiah". Bottom line is Dems can do
>> anything they want and you have to bend over and take it. Not much you
>> can do about it but bitch on a poker group. The more you try to
>> "analyze" President Obama's performance and spew Hannity talking
>> points the more irrelevant you become. Your answer to that kind of
>> thinking came in the recent election. You and Rush can pray the Dems
>> fail all you want - you're still IRRELEVANT. Not smug, not gloating
>> but Jesus MF Christ, you idiots still haven't figured out why you lost
>> the election, have you? Hint: It aint about Bush's BS "war on terror".
>
>There were 117,000,000 votes cast in the presidential election and Obama
>only won by 7,000,000. There were 55,000,000+ of us who did not vote for
> him. McCain& Palin were ahead in the polls before the financial
> disaster hit in mid-September and if McCain had been smarter and a better
>communicator, he would still have won. The "affirmative action, first black
>president" card
>has been played. If Obama does not turn this economy around or if
>there is another terrorist attack on American soil within the next four
> years, he will be a one term President. assuming he's not impeached.
> And if he has not turned the economy around within in the next two years,
> look for conservatives to start taking back congressional seats. When
>Obama
>gutted America's anti-terrorist defenses and introduced a massive,
>fat-loaded, pork barrel $ trillion dollar spending program to fix the
>economy, he not only rolled the dice on America's future, but on his own.
>
>Irish Mike
>


This was idiotic the first time you posted it. Now it's kinda sad.


      
Date: 01 Feb 2009 22:43:24
From: Pepe Papon
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves
On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 08:56:49 -0500, hap <s@a.com > wrote:

>On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 00:33:14 -0500, "Irish Mike"
><mjostar@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"hap" <s@a.com> wrote in message
>>news:epi9o4hqpvcc864ogfeueoluhv893e49pi@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 09:58:56 -0500, "Irish Mike"
>>> <mjostar@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Bottom line bucko, I wouldn't get too smug about your Messiah too soon.
>>>
>>> Never said anything about my "Messiah". Bottom line is Dems can do
>>> anything they want and you have to bend over and take it. Not much you
>>> can do about it but bitch on a poker group. The more you try to
>>> "analyze" President Obama's performance and spew Hannity talking
>>> points the more irrelevant you become. Your answer to that kind of
>>> thinking came in the recent election. You and Rush can pray the Dems
>>> fail all you want - you're still IRRELEVANT. Not smug, not gloating
>>> but Jesus MF Christ, you idiots still haven't figured out why you lost
>>> the election, have you? Hint: It aint about Bush's BS "war on terror".
>>
>>There were 117,000,000 votes cast in the presidential election and Obama
>>only won by 7,000,000. There were 55,000,000+ of us who did not vote for
>> him. McCain& Palin were ahead in the polls before the financial
>> disaster hit in mid-September and if McCain had been smarter and a better
>>communicator, he would still have won. The "affirmative action, first black
>>president" card
>>has been played. If Obama does not turn this economy around or if
>>there is another terrorist attack on American soil within the next four
>> years, he will be a one term President. assuming he's not impeached.
>> And if he has not turned the economy around within in the next two years,
>> look for conservatives to start taking back congressional seats. When
>>Obama
>>gutted America's anti-terrorist defenses and introduced a massive,
>>fat-loaded, pork barrel $ trillion dollar spending program to fix the
>>economy, he not only rolled the dice on America's future, but on his own.
>>
>>Irish Mike
>>
>
>
>This was idiotic the first time you posted it. Now it's kinda sad.

Wait'll the next 45 times.


 
Date: 30 Jan 2009 19:29:10
From: CheckRazor
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves
Yep, your boys are definitely on the right track here, but what are
you going to do if Obama's plan actually works?

Looks to me like another 177 dumbass rednecks. Get your Bible and your
shotgun out and CLING to it, Irish Mike.


  
Date: 01 Feb 2009 09:02:48
From: pokertank.us
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves
On Jan 31, 11:28=A0pm, Fred <n...@none.none > wrote:
> "pokertank.us" <h...@pokertank.us> wrote innews:c7b88a05-098b-44cb-8826-c=
5335e7b2e8a@r41g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:
>
> > 7. =A0Deregulate all private industry. =A0Remove the federal government
> > from every aspect of business that mettles with free trade or any
> > aspect of the free market system. =A0The federal government's role is
> > clearly supposed to be one of oversight, protecting free and honest
> > trade, not regulating who, what, when, and how business is conducted.
> > This would save the taxpayer billions, maybe trillions, and would
> > allow the free market system to prosper without intervention or
> > mettling from the federal government
>
> Deregulation worked great in the banking industry. Make all businesses wo=
rk
> that way.
>
> Fred.

There is a huge difference between regulation and oversight. The
government's job is to provide oversight to the marketplace, to keep
the marketplace fair and free from corrupt business practices.
Problem is, the government sees a problem, so they try to regulate the
problem out, then the pendulum swings the oposite way, then try to
regulate it back to the middle. There is always a "minority" that
gets burned on each end when this occurs. Aside for corruption and
unfair business practices, if the government would simply stay out of
the way, and let the weak fail when needed, the free market system
will self-correct the problem. Unlike government intervention, the
market correction will happen in a more balanced and orderly fashion,
punishing the weak and poorly managed businessess, and leaving the
strong and well managed to prosper in the end. I know this sounds
goofy to some, but this is how a truly free capitalist system works at
it's best.

- Hank

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Date: 31 Jan 2009 20:46:15
From: CheckRazor
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves
On Jan 31, 10:56=A0am, "pokertank.us" <h...@pokertank.us > wrote:
>
> It would be comical, if not so sad, how liberals have to always label
> conservatives as uneducated, country hicks living in a swamp making
> moonshine, and sleeping with their sisters. =A0Keep thinking this way,
> we appreciate being underestimated...
>

>>Hey,if the shoe fits, wear it.

> The only reason the Republicans are in the minority now, is because
> they got away from their conservative values, got drunk on the power,


>>>Or maybe mooshine. Keep sleeping with your sister. We need more Republic=
ans.



The Republican party consists of three groups: the super-weatlthy, the
Jesus freaks, and the dumbass rednecks.The super-wealthy keep tossing
out the bone of ending abortion, but in realty they will never do it,
because they would lose the Jesus freaks. They also try to scare the
the dumbass rednecks into thinking the Dems will somehow take away
their guns and ammunition.


   
Date: 03 Feb 2009 19:11:25
From: FL Turbo
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves
On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 20:46:15 -0800 (PST), CheckRazor
<Luv2skibumps_222@hotmail.com > wrote:

>On Jan 31, 10:56 am, "pokertank.us" <h...@pokertank.us> wrote:
>>
>> It would be comical, if not so sad, how liberals have to always label
>> conservatives as uneducated, country hicks living in a swamp making
>> moonshine, and sleeping with their sisters.  Keep thinking this way,
>> we appreciate being underestimated...
>>
>
>>>Hey,if the shoe fits, wear it.
>
>> The only reason the Republicans are in the minority now, is because
>> they got away from their conservative values, got drunk on the power,
>
>
>>>>Or maybe mooshine. Keep sleeping with your sister. We need more Republicans.
>
>
>
>The Republican party consists of three groups: the super-weatlthy, the
>Jesus freaks, and the dumbass rednecks.The super-wealthy keep tossing
>out the bone of ending abortion, but in realty they will never do it,
>because they would lose the Jesus freaks. They also try to scare the
>the dumbass rednecks into thinking the Dems will somehow take away
>their guns and ammunition.

That last one seems to have worked quite well.
Gun dealers all over the country are reporting a booming business.
(Recession? What recession? I don't see no recession.)

RGP's own young J_B_K has suddenly decided this is the time to get
hisself a gun while he still can.

Hmmm

Something must be going on here.

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“Even if I want to take them away, I don’t have the votes in
Congress,’’ he said.

September 5, 2008



   
Date: 31 Jan 2009 23:21:20
From: Joe Long
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves
CheckRazor wrote:

> The Republican party consists of three groups: the super-weatlthy, the
> Jesus freaks, and the dumbass rednecks.The super-wealthy keep tossing
> out the bone of ending abortion, but in realty they will never do it,
> because they would lose the Jesus freaks. They also try to scare the
> the dumbass rednecks into thinking the Dems will somehow take away
> their guns and ammunition.

What a maroon.


--
Joe Long aka ChipRider
Somewhere on the Range


    
Date: 01 Feb 2009 06:15:53
From: Jerry Sturdivant
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves



CheckRazor said:

> The Republican party consists of three groups: the super-weatlthy, the
> Jesus freaks, and the dumbass rednecks.The super-wealthy keep tossing
> out the bone of ending abortion, but in realty they will never do it,
> because they would lose the Jesus freaks. They also try to scare the
> the dumbass rednecks into thinking the Dems will somehow take away
> their guns and ammunition.

Good analysis of 2001. (Even though Gore received more votes). And, uh,
2002, and ..


Jerry (counting) 'n Vegas








  
Date: 31 Jan 2009 19:33:38
From: pokertank.us
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves
On Jan 31, 2:57=A0pm, "ChrisRobin" <a9db...@webnntp.invalid > wrote:
> On Jan 31 2009 2:17 AM, Irish Mike wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "KIMOSABE" <kimosabe...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:5194f9c8-052e-4000-8e4c-3f098203cd1e@h5g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
> > > If we had to make a bet about the economic recovery, the safest bet
> > > may be that it won't work. =A0We're in a ditch and from there we have=
to
> > > support a crushing national debt. =A0At the same time we're going to =
try
> > > to borrow and spend our way back to health. =A0Prognosis: =A0poor.
>
> > > Prediction: =A0The Republican Party is already barking, bad mouthing =
and
> > > getting itself on record voting against the recovery efforts, setting
> > > up a 'We-told-you-so,-it-would-have-been-better-if-our-ideas-had-been=
-
> > > used' scenario for the 2012 election, in which Sen. John Boehner
> > > (pronounced Bone-er) will be the candidate.
>
> > The Republicans are not voting against "the recovery efforts". =A0In fa=
ct,
> > they offered The Messiah a better recovery plan that focused on tax cut=
s for
> > working Americans and incentives for businesses and corportations to gr=
ow,
> > invest and create more private sector jobs. =A0The Messiah rejected it =
out of
> > hand. =A0The Republicans voted against The Messiah's massive pork barre=
l
> > spending plan that has billions ear-marked for growing the federal
> > government and expanding welfare, entitlement and give away programs, =
=A0The
> > following are just a few examples of the non-job creation ear-marks inc=
luded
> > in The Messiah's $ trillion+ spending bill:
>
> > $335 million for sexually transmitted disease prevention.
> > $1.0 billion for Amtrak, which has never shown a profit in twenty years
> > $2.4 billion for carbon capture projects
> > $400 million to study global warming
> > $50 million for the endowment for the arts.
> > $7.7 billion for government buildings
> > $600 million for new hybrid cars for the federal government - more than=
the
> > cost of the entire existing fleet.
> > $650 million for digital TV conversion coupons.
>
> > That list just scratches the surface and is after the Republicans force=
d The
> > Messiah so cut out some of the pork! =A0Not sure how exactly many $ ten=
s of
> > millions are in the bill to fund ACORN. =A0These are the same crooked s=
cum
> > bags The Messiah worked for in Chicago and who are currently being
> > investigated for voter fraud in thirteen states. =A0In addition, most o=
f The
> > Messiah's pork barrel plan won't even get the money in to the economy f=
or
> > two or three years.
>
> > At this point, America's best hope is that the Republicans stand strong=
in
> > the Senate and strip out as much of the Democrat social engineering,
> > entitlement money to buy votes, pork spending from the bill as possible=
.
> > And then write a bill that actually focuses on cutting taxes and creati=
ng
> > jobs.
>
> Just curious, Mike. Do the Republicans have an answer for any of America'=
s
> problems that don't involve tax cuts, tax cuts, and more tax cuts?
>
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This conservative does:

1. National sales and use tax instead of the unconstitutional income
tax. This is the only fair and constitutional way to fund the
government. If you buy a $10,000 subcompact car, you are taxed $1000.
If you buy an $80,000 BMW, then you will be taxed $8000. This would
make all illegals and criminals pay their fair share of taxes, along
with the rest of us. In addition, the IRS would be drastically
downsized to just an enforcement and oversight agency, since the taxes
could easily be collected by the state comptrollers, and would be a
simple one page tax return, just like the state sales tax forms
currently are.

2. Get rid of the world's worst retirement plan, Social(ist)
Security I am 39, and would gladly give up my entitlement to have
this done. Yes, take care of those already on the dole, but be
honest, that it will come from the general fund, rather than the fake
SS fund. Leave the investment money with the taxpayer, where it
belongs in the first place. The only government involvement would be
to possibly require all wage earners to setup an investment vehicle of
their choosing of no less than 5 or 10% of their gross income. This
would be similar to medical savings accounts, which work great to curb
the high cost of health insurance. This would save the taxpayer
billions, maybe trillions, and would boost the economy and business
growth.

3. Give school vouchers to parents to take their kids to whatever
school they desire, public, private, religious, or whatever. Get rid
of the NEA immediately, and put education back to the states where it
belongs. This would save the taxpayer billions, maybe trillions, not
to mention the future of our children.

4. Begin to either shutdown or turn every quasi-governmental agency
back to the states, if a constitutionally allowed or required service
is provided. This would save the taxpayer billions, maybe trillions.

5. Put the Army on both borders, stopping ALL illegal immigration.
Any illegals found in the country would be immediately shipped to
their country of origin, unless they could get assylum approved. If
they require health care, give them life saving measures, then ship
them home. I live in Texas, and see the damage done by illegal
immigration every day, both to this country, and to most of the
illegal immigrants who can never come close to touching or tasting the
American Dream. This would save the taxpayer billions, maybe
trillions, and would open up millions of jobs to our young people and
working class Americans.

6. Immediately drill for oil whereever we have to, offshore Florida
and California, Alaska, etc, etc. Support private research and
innovation to find alternative fuel sources. Make all government
based technology and breakthroughs available to all U.S. based
businesses that want to use it to make a viable marketplace. This
would save the taxpayer billions, maybe trillions, and get us away
from being dependent on the rest of the world, including terror states
and dictators.

7. Deregulate all private industry. Remove the federal government
from every aspect of business that mettles with free trade or any
aspect of the free market system. The federal government's role is
clearly supposed to be one of oversight, protecting free and honest
trade, not regulating who, what, when, and how business is conducted.
This would save the taxpayer billions, maybe trillions, and would
allow the free market system to prosper without intervention or
mettling from the federal government

I could go on, but that's a solid 7 beyond just "cutting taxes" that
would begin to get this country back on the right track. The great
socialist experiment has failed, and the only way to save this
country, is to bring the federal government's power and spending
addiction under control, and to put the states and the free market
capitalist system back in charge of our future, rather than a bunch of
inept and corrupt politicians in Washington.

So..., what sort of answers do the liberals on here have that will
bring this country back to what made it the greatest nation that has
ever existed? I would love to hear some detailed solutions, rather
than emotional outbursts feel good policies, and personal name
calling.

- Hank

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Date: 01 Feb 2009 05:28:16
From: Fred
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves
"pokertank.us" <hank@pokertank.us > wrote in
news:c7b88a05-098b-44cb-8826-c5335e7b2e8a@r41g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:

> 7. Deregulate all private industry. Remove the federal government
> from every aspect of business that mettles with free trade or any
> aspect of the free market system. The federal government's role is
> clearly supposed to be one of oversight, protecting free and honest
> trade, not regulating who, what, when, and how business is conducted.
> This would save the taxpayer billions, maybe trillions, and would
> allow the free market system to prosper without intervention or
> mettling from the federal government

Deregulation worked great in the banking industry. Make all businesses work
that way.

Fred.


    
Date: 31 Jan 2009 23:28:01
From: Joe Long
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves
Fred wrote:

> Deregulation worked great in the banking industry. Make all businesses work
> that way.

People who love big government and government regulation were quick to
blame deregulation for the economic crisis. Ignoring that regulated
institutions were a major contributor to the problem. Some of the
actions leading to this were imposed on the financial institutions by
government (regulations contributing to the problem). The problem isn't
deregulation, it's how it's done (and what, and how, remains regulated).


--
Joe Long aka ChipRider
Somewhere on the Range


     
Date: 01 Feb 2009 22:39:52
From: Pepe Papon
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves
On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:28:01 -0700, Joe Long <nospam@spam.com > wrote:

>People who love big government and government regulation were quick to
>blame deregulation for the economic crisis. Ignoring that regulated
>institutions were a major contributor to the problem. Some of the
>actions leading to this were imposed on the financial institutions by
>government (regulations contributing to the problem). The problem isn't
>deregulation, it's how it's done (and what, and how, remains regulated).

Well, then, one could say the same about regulation and so-called "big
government". So, it's just as much of an argument for re-regulation
as it is for de-regulation.


     
Date: 01 Feb 2009 06:08:49
From: Jerry Sturdivant
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves

"Joe Long" <nospam@spam.com > wrote



> The problem isn't deregulation, it's how it's done
> (and what, and how, remains regulated).

It's how deregulation is regulated?


Jerry (just wondering) 'n Vegas










      
Date: 01 Feb 2009 10:46:47
From: Joe Long
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves
Jerry Sturdivant wrote:
> "Joe Long" <nospam@spam.com> wrote

>> The problem isn't deregulation, it's how it's done
>> (and what, and how, remains regulated).
>
> It's how deregulation is regulated?

Was that not clear? How deregulation is carried out (which regulations
are deleted or modified, which remain, which are replaced and with what).

Deregulation, like anything else, can be done well or done poorly, can
be for the better or for the worse.


--
Joe Long aka ChipRider
Somewhere on the Range


  
Date: 31 Jan 2009 11:12:51
From: pokertank.us
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves
On Jan 31, 8:35=A0am, "mccard" <no_won@no_won.none > wrote:
> "Irish Mike" <mjos...@ameritech.net> wrote in message
>
> news:8BSgl.9707$hc1.4545@flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com...
>
> > "CheckRazor" <Luv2skibumps_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:9df38872-d8ba-479d-90a7-fb72fd80372b@r15g2000prh.googlegroups.com..=
.
> >> Be sure to give extra love to your shotgun tonight. In fact you might
> >> even consider sleeping with it. I think you should =A0put it right nex=
t
> >> to your Bible.
>
> > It's my right as an American to own a gun and a bible. =A0Is your hatre=
d and
> > bigotry limited to those two rights or do you hate every thing in the
> > Constitution?
>
> The reptiles keep yapping for tax cuts and cap gains tax reduction when a
> hundred thousand a week are losing their jobs. =A0They keep it up and man=
y may
> come regret the fact that in a free society the unemployed, hungry and an=
gry
> can own guns. =A0Ha, reptile gun control, lol.

Yes, cut taxes, both income and cap gains, cut out the 15% deduction
for the worthless social-ist security system, and those 100's of
thousands will begin to be gainfully employed again. Another thing,
if the government is going to give away taxpayer money, how about
giving it back directly to those unemployed taxpayers, and maybe some
of them will start businesses that will ultimately employ many more
than have recently lost their jobs... That just makes too much damn
sense, now doesn't it? Unfortunately, our government is incapable of
taking any action that actually has any logic or common sense
involved...

- Hank

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Date: 31 Jan 2009 11:12:20
From: Senator Millionaire
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves
On Jan 31, 1:51=A0pm, "Irish Mike" <mjos...@ameritech.net > wrote:

>=A0It's absolutely amazing that this hypocrite is lecturing people to
> eat less, live colder and ride bicycles and they actually buy his line of
> bull shit.
>
> Irish Mike

You're right Irish Mike. But is he's selling lots of dogshit and
people are scooping it up. Well, you've got to at least give him some
credit for being a good salesperson even if he is full of shit.

Al Gore made hundreds of millions of dollars in the last eight years
and leaves quite a carbon footprint. He uses 20X more than the
national average.

http://media.www.dailyvidette.com/media/storage/paper420/news/2007/03/01/Vi=
ewpoint/An.Inconvenient.Truth.Gores.Energy.Bill-2750060.shtml

And he's telling everyone to use LESS energy? LOL!




  
Date: 31 Jan 2009 11:06:25
From: pokertank.us
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves
On Jan 31, 1:17=A0am, "Irish Mike" <mjos...@ameritech.net > wrote:
> "KIMOSABE" <kimosabe...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:5194f9c8-052e-4000-8e4c-3f098203cd1e@h5g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
>
> > If we had to make a bet about the economic recovery, the safest bet
> > may be that it won't work. =A0We're in a ditch and from there we have t=
o
> > support a crushing national debt. =A0At the same time we're going to tr=
y
> > to borrow and spend our way back to health. =A0Prognosis: =A0poor.
>
> > Prediction: =A0The Republican Party is already barking, bad mouthing an=
d
> > getting itself on record voting against the recovery efforts, setting
> > up a 'We-told-you-so,-it-would-have-been-better-if-our-ideas-had-been-
> > used' scenario for the 2012 election, in which Sen. John Boehner
> > (pronounced Bone-er) will be the candidate.
>
> The Republicans are not voting against "the recovery efforts". =A0In fact=
,
> they offered The Messiah a better recovery plan that focused on tax cuts =
for
> working Americans and incentives for businesses and corportations to grow=
,
> invest and create more private sector jobs. =A0The Messiah rejected it ou=
t of
> hand. =A0The Republicans voted against The Messiah's massive pork barrel
> spending plan that has billions ear-marked for growing the federal
> government and expanding welfare, entitlement and give away programs, =A0=
The
> following are just a few examples of the non-job creation ear-marks inclu=
ded
> in The Messiah's $ trillion+ spending bill:
>
> $335 million for sexually transmitted disease prevention.
> $1.0 billion for Amtrak, which has never shown a profit in twenty years
> $2.4 billion for carbon capture projects
> $400 million to study global warming
> $50 million for the endowment for the arts.
> $7.7 billion for government buildings
> $600 million for new hybrid cars for the federal government - more than t=
he
> cost of the entire existing fleet.
> $650 million for digital TV conversion coupons.
>
> That list just scratches the surface and is after the Republicans forced =
The
> Messiah so cut out some of the pork! =A0Not sure how exactly many $ tens =
of
> millions are in the bill to fund ACORN. =A0These are the same crooked scu=
m
> bags The Messiah worked for in Chicago and who are currently being
> investigated for voter fraud in thirteen states. =A0In addition, most of =
The
> Messiah's pork barrel plan won't even get the money in to the economy for
> two or three years.
>
> At this point, America's best hope is that the Republicans stand strong i=
n
> the Senate and strip out as much of the Democrat social engineering,
> entitlement money to buy votes, pork spending from the bill as possible.
> And then write a bill that actually focuses on cutting taxes and creating
> jobs.
>
> Irish Mike

From one cuntry hick inbreed conservative to another... Amen brotha!

- Hank

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Date: 31 Jan 2009 09:56:43
From: pokertank.us
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves
On Jan 30, 9:29=A0pm, CheckRazor <Luv2skibumps_...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> Yep, your boys are definitely on the right track here, but what are
> you going to do if Obama's plan actually works?
>
> Looks to me like another 177 dumbass rednecks. Get your Bible and your
> shotgun out and CLING to it, Irish Mike.

It would be comical, if not so sad, how liberals have to always label
conservatives as uneducated, country hicks living in a swamp making
moonshine, and sleeping with their sisters. Keep thinking this way,
we appreciate being underestimated...

The only reason the Republicans are in the minority now, is because
they got away from their conservative values, got drunk on the power,
and tried to make everyone happy as part of their "big tent" theory.
If they have learned their lesson, and truly become the opposition
party as they were on this pork laden turd of a "bailout", they will
be back in power within the next couple election cycles.

I am a conservative first, and republican second. If they don't move
back to their conservative base, they won't have the support of
formerly loyal members such as myself, and they will never be in the
majority ogain...

- Hank

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Date: 31 Jan 2009 13:07:22
From: ChrisRobin
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves
On Jan 31 2009 12:56 PM, pokertank.us wrote:

> On Jan 30, 9:29 pm, CheckRazor <Luv2skibumps_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Yep, your boys are definitely on the right track here, but what are
> > you going to do if Obama's plan actually works?
> >
> > Looks to me like another 177 dumbass rednecks. Get your Bible and your
> > shotgun out and CLING to it, Irish Mike.
>
> It would be comical, if not so sad, how liberals have to always label
> conservatives as uneducated, country hicks living in a swamp making
> moonshine, and sleeping with their sisters. Keep thinking this way,
> we appreciate being underestimated...

Not to generalize, but have you heard some of these Republican Congressmen
speak? Calling them country hicks would be giving them too much credit.

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Date: 31 Jan 2009 23:23:35
From: Joe Long
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves
ChrisRobin wrote:
> On Jan 31 2009 12:56 PM, pokertank.us wrote:

>> It would be comical, if not so sad, how liberals have to always label
>> conservatives as uneducated, country hicks living in a swamp making
>> moonshine, and sleeping with their sisters. Keep thinking this way,
>> we appreciate being underestimated...

> Not to generalize, but have you heard some of these Republican Congressmen
> speak? Calling them country hicks would be giving them too much credit.

Nice to so quickly provide an example of what he was talking about.
(Hint: you can leave out the word "Republican" without changing the
truth of the sentence, only removing its kneejerk partisanship).


--
Joe Long aka ChipRider
Somewhere on the Range


     
Date: 01 Feb 2009 17:24:24
From: ChrisRobin
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves
On Feb 1 2009 1:23 AM, Joe Long wrote:

> ChrisRobin wrote:
> > On Jan 31 2009 12:56 PM, pokertank.us wrote:
>
> >> It would be comical, if not so sad, how liberals have to always label
> >> conservatives as uneducated, country hicks living in a swamp making
> >> moonshine, and sleeping with their sisters. Keep thinking this way,
> >> we appreciate being underestimated...
>
> > Not to generalize, but have you heard some of these Republican Congressmen
> > speak? Calling them country hicks would be giving them too much credit.
>
> Nice to so quickly provide an example of what he was talking about.
> (Hint: you can leave out the word "Republican" without changing the
> truth of the sentence, only removing its kneejerk partisanship).

Drill baby drill!

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Date: 01 Feb 2009 00:27:14
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves

"ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
news:a5re56xlhm.ln2@recgroups.com...
> On Jan 31 2009 12:56 PM, pokertank.us wrote:
>
>> On Jan 30, 9:29 pm, CheckRazor <Luv2skibumps_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > Yep, your boys are definitely on the right track here, but what are
>> > you going to do if Obama's plan actually works?
>> >
>> > Looks to me like another 177 dumbass rednecks. Get your Bible and your
>> > shotgun out and CLING to it, Irish Mike.
>>
>> It would be comical, if not so sad, how liberals have to always label
>> conservatives as uneducated, country hicks living in a swamp making
>> moonshine, and sleeping with their sisters. Keep thinking this way,
>> we appreciate being underestimated...
>
> Not to generalize, but have you heard some of these Republican Congressmen
> speak? Calling them country hicks would be giving them too much credit.

Have you ever heard Joe Biden speak?

Irish Mike




  
Date: 31 Jan 2009 07:02:11
From: Senator Millionaire
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves
Does anyone know if there are any plans to build more nuclear power
plants in this bill? The key to economic growth is low energy prices
today and the years ahead.


  
Date: 30 Jan 2009 20:28:25
From: KIMOSABE
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves
If we had to make a bet about the economic recovery, the safest bet
may be that it won't work. We're in a ditch and from there we have to
support a crushing national debt. At the same time we're going to try
to borrow and spend our way back to health. Prognosis: poor.

Prediction: The Republican Party is already barking, bad mouthing and
getting itself on record voting against the recovery efforts, setting
up a 'We-told-you-so,-it-would-have-been-better-if-our-ideas-had-been-
used' scenario for the 2012 election, in which Sen. John Boehner
(pronounced Bone-er) will be the candidate.

For a legitmate conservative viewpoint, try David Broder:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/30/opinion/30brooks.html?ref=opinion


   
Date: 31 Jan 2009 02:12:34
From: bub
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves
On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:28:25 -0800 (PST), KIMOSABE
<kimosabe126@yahoo.com > wrote:

> The Republican Party is already barking, bad mouthing and
>getting itself on record voting against the recovery efforts,

please explain step by step. dollar for dollar how this "recovery"
will happen?


   
Date: 31 Jan 2009 02:17:10
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves

"KIMOSABE" <kimosabe126@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:5194f9c8-052e-4000-8e4c-3f098203cd1e@h5g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
> If we had to make a bet about the economic recovery, the safest bet
> may be that it won't work. We're in a ditch and from there we have to
> support a crushing national debt. At the same time we're going to try
> to borrow and spend our way back to health. Prognosis: poor.
>
> Prediction: The Republican Party is already barking, bad mouthing and
> getting itself on record voting against the recovery efforts, setting
> up a 'We-told-you-so,-it-would-have-been-better-if-our-ideas-had-been-
> used' scenario for the 2012 election, in which Sen. John Boehner
> (pronounced Bone-er) will be the candidate.

The Republicans are not voting against "the recovery efforts". In fact,
they offered The Messiah a better recovery plan that focused on tax cuts for
working Americans and incentives for businesses and corportations to grow,
invest and create more private sector jobs. The Messiah rejected it out of
hand. The Republicans voted against The Messiah's massive pork barrel
spending plan that has billions ear-marked for growing the federal
government and expanding welfare, entitlement and give away programs, The
following are just a few examples of the non-job creation ear-marks included
in The Messiah's $ trillion+ spending bill:

$335 million for sexually transmitted disease prevention.
$1.0 billion for Amtrak, which has never shown a profit in twenty years
$2.4 billion for carbon capture projects
$400 million to study global warming
$50 million for the endowment for the arts.
$7.7 billion for government buildings
$600 million for new hybrid cars for the federal government - more than the
cost of the entire existing fleet.
$650 million for digital TV conversion coupons.

That list just scratches the surface and is after the Republicans forced The
Messiah so cut out some of the pork! Not sure how exactly many $ tens of
millions are in the bill to fund ACORN. These are the same crooked scum
bags The Messiah worked for in Chicago and who are currently being
investigated for voter fraud in thirteen states. In addition, most of The
Messiah's pork barrel plan won't even get the money in to the economy for
two or three years.

At this point, America's best hope is that the Republicans stand strong in
the Senate and strip out as much of the Democrat social engineering,
entitlement money to buy votes, pork spending from the bill as possible.
And then write a bill that actually focuses on cutting taxes and creating
jobs.

Irish Mike




    
Date: 31 Jan 2009 12:57:09
From: ChrisRobin
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves
On Jan 31 2009 2:17 AM, Irish Mike wrote:

> "KIMOSABE" <kimosabe126@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:5194f9c8-052e-4000-8e4c-3f098203cd1e@h5g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
> > If we had to make a bet about the economic recovery, the safest bet
> > may be that it won't work. We're in a ditch and from there we have to
> > support a crushing national debt. At the same time we're going to try
> > to borrow and spend our way back to health. Prognosis: poor.
> >
> > Prediction: The Republican Party is already barking, bad mouthing and
> > getting itself on record voting against the recovery efforts, setting
> > up a 'We-told-you-so,-it-would-have-been-better-if-our-ideas-had-been-
> > used' scenario for the 2012 election, in which Sen. John Boehner
> > (pronounced Bone-er) will be the candidate.
>
> The Republicans are not voting against "the recovery efforts". In fact,
> they offered The Messiah a better recovery plan that focused on tax cuts for
> working Americans and incentives for businesses and corportations to grow,
> invest and create more private sector jobs. The Messiah rejected it out of
> hand. The Republicans voted against The Messiah's massive pork barrel
> spending plan that has billions ear-marked for growing the federal
> government and expanding welfare, entitlement and give away programs, The
> following are just a few examples of the non-job creation ear-marks included
> in The Messiah's $ trillion+ spending bill:
>
> $335 million for sexually transmitted disease prevention.
> $1.0 billion for Amtrak, which has never shown a profit in twenty years
> $2.4 billion for carbon capture projects
> $400 million to study global warming
> $50 million for the endowment for the arts.
> $7.7 billion for government buildings
> $600 million for new hybrid cars for the federal government - more than the
> cost of the entire existing fleet.
> $650 million for digital TV conversion coupons.
>
> That list just scratches the surface and is after the Republicans forced The
> Messiah so cut out some of the pork! Not sure how exactly many $ tens of
> millions are in the bill to fund ACORN. These are the same crooked scum
> bags The Messiah worked for in Chicago and who are currently being
> investigated for voter fraud in thirteen states. In addition, most of The
> Messiah's pork barrel plan won't even get the money in to the economy for
> two or three years.
>
> At this point, America's best hope is that the Republicans stand strong in
> the Senate and strip out as much of the Democrat social engineering,
> entitlement money to buy votes, pork spending from the bill as possible.
> And then write a bill that actually focuses on cutting taxes and creating
> jobs.

Just curious, Mike. Do the Republicans have an answer for any of America's
problems that don't involve tax cuts, tax cuts, and more tax cuts?

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Date: 31 Jan 2009 11:11:11
From: Clave
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves
"Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net > wrote in message
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<... >

> At this point, America's best hope is that the Republicans stand strong in
> the Senate and strip out as much of the Democrat social engineering,
> entitlement money to buy votes, pork spending from the bill as possible.
> And then write a bill that actually focuses on cutting taxes and creating
> jobs.

Yeah, cuz that ideology's worked out great so far.

Jim




    
Date: 31 Jan 2009 08:27:51
From: Abbey Johnsson
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves
On Jan 31 2009 2:17 AM, Irish Mike wrote:

>
> $335 million for sexually transmitted disease prevention.
> $1.0 billion for Amtrak, which has never shown a profit in twenty years
> $2.4 billion for carbon capture projects
> $400 million to study global warming
> $50 million for the endowment for the arts.
> $7.7 billion for government buildings
> $600 million for new hybrid cars for the federal government - more than the
> cost of the entire existing fleet.
> $650 million for digital TV conversion coupons.

Most of that doesnt seem unreasonable. I dont understand the TV thing,
but.....disease prevention is important. The arts are important. You know
it costs money to maintain and construct new govt buildings as well as
vehicles.
Its too bad about Amtrak. I love taking the train. i wish the US had a
much bigger and better developed train system like they have in Europe.
Besides, this list doesnt look like standard pork. These are national
items. isnt pork usually money directed toward local projects like that
bridge to nowhere?
Btw, global warming and environmental problems are the most important
important issues mankind faces. You need to take your head out of the sand
and realize we have to deal with them, the sooner the better.

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Date: 31 Jan 2009 13:51:07
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves

"Abbey Johnsson" <ac68dc0@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
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> On Jan 31 2009 2:17 AM, Irish Mike wrote:
>
>>
>> $335 million for sexually transmitted disease prevention.
>> $1.0 billion for Amtrak, which has never shown a profit in twenty years
>> $2.4 billion for carbon capture projects
>> $400 million to study global warming
>> $50 million for the endowment for the arts.
>> $7.7 billion for government buildings
>> $600 million for new hybrid cars for the federal government - more than
>> the
>> cost of the entire existing fleet.
>> $650 million for digital TV conversion coupons.
>
> Most of that doesnt seem unreasonable. I dont understand the TV thing,
> but.....disease prevention is important. The arts are important. You know
> it costs money to maintain and construct new govt buildings as well as
> vehicles.
> Its too bad about Amtrak. I love taking the train. i wish the US had a
> much bigger and better developed train system like they have in Europe.
> Besides, this list doesnt look like standard pork. These are national
> items. isnt pork usually money directed toward local projects like that
> bridge to nowhere?
> Btw, global warming and environmental problems are the most important
> important issues mankind faces. You need to take your head out of the sand
> and realize we have to deal with them, the sooner the better.

It's not a question of things being "important". The arts are "important"
Reducing STDs are "important".
But we already have government agencies to address these things. This bill
is supposed to create jobs and stimulate the economy. These kinds of things
don't belong in it. There are tens of billions of dollars included in this
bill that will not help the economy or create jobs. In addition, most of
the money being spent won't even show up in the economy for two or three
years. The Republicans have the right idea. Cut taxes - for working, tax
paying
Americans, for business, for corporations. Suspend or eliminate the capital
gains and dividend taxes. Incent businesses to grow, expand, invest and
create private sector jobs. That is effective and the impact is immediate.

FYI, global warming is a scam and always has been. More and more scientists
are now stating this. Even the scientists who are still pushing the scam
have had to admit that they misinterprested the data their dooms-day
predictions were based on. And with all due respect to ol' lard ass Al
Gore, global warming doesn't even make the top ten list of biggest dangers
facing America today. BTW, have you see ol' lard ass give up his mansion,
or his private jets or his fleet of gas guzzling SUVs? No, and you won't
either. It's absolutely amazing that this hypocrite is lecturing people to
eat less, live colder and ride bicycles and they actually buy his line of
bull shit.

Irish Mike

Proud to be one of the 55,000,000+ Americans who did not vote for your
Messiah.
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Date: 01 Feb 2009 02:25:44
From: Beldin the Sorcerer
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves

"Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net > wrote in message
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>
> "Abbey Johnsson" <ac68dc0@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> news:7pae56x0ki.ln2@recgroups.com...
>> On Jan 31 2009 2:17 AM, Irish Mike wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> $335 million for sexually transmitted disease prevention.
>>> $1.0 billion for Amtrak, which has never shown a profit in twenty years
>>> $2.4 billion for carbon capture projects
>>> $400 million to study global warming
>>> $50 million for the endowment for the arts.
>>> $7.7 billion for government buildings
>>> $600 million for new hybrid cars for the federal government - more than
>>> the
>>> cost of the entire existing fleet.
>>> $650 million for digital TV conversion coupons.
>>
>> Most of that doesnt seem unreasonable. I dont understand the TV thing,
>> but.....disease prevention is important. The arts are important. You know
>> it costs money to maintain and construct new govt buildings as well as
>> vehicles.
>> Its too bad about Amtrak. I love taking the train. i wish the US had a
>> much bigger and better developed train system like they have in Europe.
>> Besides, this list doesnt look like standard pork. These are national
>> items. isnt pork usually money directed toward local projects like that
>> bridge to nowhere?
>> Btw, global warming and environmental problems are the most important
>> important issues mankind faces. You need to take your head out of the
>> sand
>> and realize we have to deal with them, the sooner the better.
>
> It's not a question of things being "important". The arts are "important"
> Reducing STDs are "important".
> But we already have government agencies to address these things. This
> bill is supposed to create jobs and stimulate the economy. These kinds of
> things don't belong in it.
Irish shithead, ladies and gentlemen.

All spending tends to creat jobs.

There are tens of billions of dollars included in this
> bill that will not help the economy or create jobs.
As if this drunken shit for brains has any clue about economics.

In addition, most of
> the money being spent won't even show up in the economy for two or three
> years. The Republicans have the right idea. Cut taxes - for working, tax
> paying
> Americans, for business, for corporations. Suspend or eliminate the
> capital gains and dividend taxes. Incent businesses to grow, expand,
> invest and create private sector jobs. That is effective and the impact
> is immediate.
Incentives to grow are immediate.
The rest isn't. People are afraid to spend. When they get more, they save
it. You need growth and mindset change, so people spend again.
Alas, that means deficit spending from the government, since they're never
afraid to spend.
You can cut taxes to zero and still have a recession, Mike.



>
> FYI, global warming is a scam and always has been.
And Irish mike is a drunken shithead, too stupid t understand the facts.

Fewer scientists doubt it, but the loudmouths, the cranks, and the
contrarians who'll take money to take a position are making more noise.




      
Date: 31 Jan 2009 11:34:55
From: Bryan Kimmes
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves
On Jan 31 2009 1:51 PM, Irish Mike wrote:

> FYI, global warming is a scam and always has been. More and more scientists
> are now stating this. Even the scientists who are still pushing the scam
> have had to admit that they misinterprested the data their dooms-day
> predictions were based on. And with all due respect to ol' lard ass Al
> Gore, global warming doesn't even make the top ten list of biggest dangers
> facing America today. BTW, have you see ol' lard ass give up his mansion,
> or his private jets or his fleet of gas guzzling SUVs? No, and you won't
> either. It's absolutely amazing that this hypocrite is lecturing people to
> eat less, live colder and ride bicycles and they actually buy his line of
> bull shit.
>
> Irish Mike

Are you for or against breaking our dependency on foreign energy sources?

If you could reverse the results of the 2000 presidential election, would
you?

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Date: 31 Jan 2009 15:06:55
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves

"Bryan Kimmes" <slikwilly1@hotmail.com > wrote in message
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> On Jan 31 2009 1:51 PM, Irish Mike wrote:
>
>> FYI, global warming is a scam and always has been. More and more
>> scientists
>> are now stating this. Even the scientists who are still pushing the scam
>> have had to admit that they misinterprested the data their dooms-day
>> predictions were based on. And with all due respect to ol' lard ass Al
>> Gore, global warming doesn't even make the top ten list of biggest
>> dangers
>> facing America today. BTW, have you see ol' lard ass give up his
>> mansion,
>> or his private jets or his fleet of gas guzzling SUVs? No, and you won't
>> either. It's absolutely amazing that this hypocrite is lecturing people
>> to
>> eat less, live colder and ride bicycles and they actually buy his line of
>> bull shit.
>>
>> Irish Mike
>
> Are you for or against breaking our dependency on foreign energy sources?

Yes, and the fastest way to do that is to drill for American oil now. Hell
bucko, even the threat of America drilling for it's own oil will lower
prices. There is nothing wrong with wind turbines and solar power but they
need to be used in addition to, not instead of, drilling for American oil.
If we had started drilling for American oil ten years ago we would have
already broken OPEC's strangle hold on our economy.


> If you could reverse the results of the 2000 presidential election, would
> you?

No, but I would sure as hell have given Bush a lot better advice than he
got.

Irish Mike




        
Date: 31 Jan 2009 13:54:55
From: Bryan Kimmes
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves
On Jan 31 2009 3:06 PM, Irish Mike wrote:

> "Bryan Kimmes" <slikwilly1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:vnle56xoel.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > On Jan 31 2009 1:51 PM, Irish Mike wrote:
> >
> >> FYI, global warming is a scam and always has been. More and more
> >> scientists
> >> are now stating this. Even the scientists who are still pushing the scam
> >> have had to admit that they misinterprested the data their dooms-day
> >> predictions were based on. And with all due respect to ol' lard ass Al
> >> Gore, global warming doesn't even make the top ten list of biggest
> >> dangers
> >> facing America today. BTW, have you see ol' lard ass give up his
> >> mansion,
> >> or his private jets or his fleet of gas guzzling SUVs? No, and you won't
> >> either. It's absolutely amazing that this hypocrite is lecturing people
> >> to
> >> eat less, live colder and ride bicycles and they actually buy his line of
> >> bull shit.
> >>
> >> Irish Mike
> >
> > Are you for or against breaking our dependency on foreign energy sources?
>
> Yes, and the fastest way to do that is to drill for American oil now. Hell
> bucko, even the threat of America drilling for it's own oil will lower
> prices. There is nothing wrong with wind turbines and solar power but they
> need to be used in addition to, not instead of, drilling for American oil.
> If we had started drilling for American oil ten years ago we would have
> already broken OPEC's strangle hold on our economy.

When the price goes too low guess what happens?

http://kxmc.com/News/Local/Williston/320529.asp

I know you believe democratic housing entitlements are the root cause of
the current situation. Please consider that this played a roll.

http://www.wtrg.com/oil_graphs/oilprice1947.gif

Our economy is utterly dependent on the stuff. When the price blew up, the
bottom layer of the grand ponzi scheme took a historic beating. Now it's
really falling apart, and the beating is getting worse. Record numbers on
unemployment and state governments going bankrupt. I don't care if Al Gore
melted larson b himself, ANYTHING that distances us from oil.

I'm hearing a lot of people saying "2009 is going to be bad, it will take
years to recover." These people need to consider that any economic
recovery may drive up the price of oil.

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Date: 30 Jan 2009 20:08:38
From: CheckRazor
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves
Be sure to give extra love to your shotgun tonight. In fact you might
even consider sleeping with it. I think you should put it right next
to your Bible.


   
Date: 31 Jan 2009 01:54:57
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves

"CheckRazor" <Luv2skibumps_222@hotmail.com > wrote in message
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> Be sure to give extra love to your shotgun tonight. In fact you might
> even consider sleeping with it. I think you should put it right next
> to your Bible.

It's my right as an American to own a gun and a bible. Is your hatred and
bigotry limited to those two rights or do you hate every thing in the
Constitution?

Irish Mike




    
Date: 31 Jan 2009 08:35:10
From: mccard
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves

"Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net > wrote in message
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>
> "CheckRazor" <Luv2skibumps_222@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:9df38872-d8ba-479d-90a7-fb72fd80372b@r15g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>> Be sure to give extra love to your shotgun tonight. In fact you might
>> even consider sleeping with it. I think you should put it right next
>> to your Bible.
>
> It's my right as an American to own a gun and a bible. Is your hatred and
> bigotry limited to those two rights or do you hate every thing in the
> Constitution?
>
>
The reptiles keep yapping for tax cuts and cap gains tax reduction when a
hundred thousand a week are losing their jobs. They keep it up and many may
come regret the fact that in a free society the unemployed, hungry and angry
can own guns. Ha, reptile gun control, lol.



    
Date: 30 Jan 2009 23:01:16
From: Clave
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves
"Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net > wrote in message
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>
> "CheckRazor" <Luv2skibumps_222@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:9df38872-d8ba-479d-90a7-fb72fd80372b@r15g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>> Be sure to give extra love to your shotgun tonight. In fact you might
>> even consider sleeping with it. I think you should put it right next
>> to your Bible.
>
> It's my right as an American to own a gun and a bible.

Bibles are good for suppressing flash and noise, but they diminish accuracy.

And they typically aren't absorbent at all.

Jim




  
Date: 30 Jan 2009 22:43:17
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves

"CheckRazor" <Luv2skibumps_222@hotmail.com > wrote in message
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> Yep, your boys are definitely on the right track here, but what are
> you going to do if Obama's plan actually works?
>
> Looks to me like another 177 dumbass rednecks. Get your Bible and your
> shotgun out and CLING to it, Irish Mike.

Well bucko, the point is that there are hundreds of billions of dollars in
The Messiah's bill that have absolutely nothing to do with creating jobs in
this economy. They are welfare, entitlement, social engineering, grow big
federal government give away programs. If The Messiah really wanted to help
the economy he needs to cut taxes for businesses, corporations and working
Americans who actually pay income tax. In addition, he needs to eliminate
the capital gains and dividend tax. That would be effective and the impact
would be immediate. The Messiah won't do it because his real goal is to
grow the size and power of the federal government and to buy votes with
entitlement spending.

BTW, there are 55,000,000+ Americans who did not vote for your Messiah and
I'm very proud to be one of them.

Irish Mike




 
Date: 30 Jan 2009 21:26:38
From: Travel
Subject: Re: Republicans make two good moves
I like what I've heard from Michael Steele. His strategy is a return to
conservative principles; as opposed to the bogus, party/message
weakening concept of the "big tent".

He's also well-spoken and likable, which is pretty much mandatory in
today's media driven politics.

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